Criminally underrated tech channel. Just stumbled upon it while waiting for my new Ryzen CPU to arrive and binged all the cpu/ram overclocking videos, and then some more xD. Love the detailed explanations and loads of practical advice. It's a shame I hadn't found this channel earlier, would've made a better choice when picking my RAM :) Keep up the awesome work, you deserve more subs!
Crystal clear step-by-step guide. Your way of explanation reminds me those few great teachers I encountered with over my past decades. Great content, fluent and catching presentation, very well done! Thanks!
This vid helped me the most so far in 2024 - I can now feel safe using PPT 180 EDC 155 TDC 145 Everything is within acceptable limits and I'm not even hitting 80c - A very kind 3% more in both ST and MT according to CPU-Z - Liquid Cooler 340mil NZXT. I don't know if I'm going to pass a mem read test yet using unlocked AIDA64 Extreme listed in Armory Crate free utilities. If sensor panel=ON - Renaming files is dodgy. Chasing the Holy Grail of eye candy and performance. Such is the life of a Technophile. A Gen X Shalomie Like me doesn't mind if they get caught skulking around the grey tech yard.
Hi update from from last message you have to also enable pbo in extreme tweaker then it allows you to alter in Ryzen master also worth noting that the changes in bios to ppt ect will not take affect unless they are also entered in both pbo in the BIOS. Maybe this may help others that have had the same issue.
This is the most information packed and usefull video about ryzen master tuning I have ever watched. I will start optimising my ryzen system immediately. Great work!!
@@al3xb827 depends on chipset make/model of motherboard, i believe it's paywalled it's advanced tuning so you would have to buy pricy overclocking capable motherboard.
Thank you very much for this video. I'm not the most tech-savvy pc user out there but you explained everything very well here It gave my 3900x a nice performance boost Cheers from Denmark
Sadly my 5800x doesn’t seem to hit 100% PPT or TDC even with a curve offset of negative 25. Tried playing with the values to get them closer to 100% but didn’t record any difference in frequency. I did, however, notice that dropping EDC from 140 to 120 gave me an increase to my frequency. Now running 142 / 95 / 120 but was able to add +100 MHz in the BIOS as well. Guess luck of the draw wasn’t on my side.
@@CoercedNut are you saying you want to lower these 3 numbers as close as you can so when under full load they're at 100/100? Does making your PC use 100% of the limit somehow increase performance or something?
I followed the guide so far, and was able to get to -30 with my 5800X and a Darkrock Pro 4! Time to follow the rest of the guide. I just hope it addresses single-core loads like CSGO and not well-balanced multi-threaded loads like cinebench.
@@buck3t_ not sure. Any time I tried to select a specific per-core offset for my two strongest cores, the fps dropped. So I just left It at -25 for all cores
@@recnepSpencar I've been trying to find out how to oc my 3300x and all I found till now was all core oc's. This looked a lot more promising than just my auto oc 200 boost... I think i get 4500mhz ish on 1 core... Everything else is pretty much stock tho
I am running an i5 from 2016 and it works fine with all games, maybe not maxed out on the geometry, but whatever. Can you imagine gaming on hardware even 10 years old? Its possible! So great
first of all, love the video and it's awesome you did this. has helped me a lot and from looking at the comments, be proud of making this video and that even 2 years later it's STILL helping. figured since i would start tweaking my CPU's and have used this video and methods to tune my 3 CPU's, 5600x, 5700x and 5800x3D have significantly reduced temps and gotten better performance on all of them. all CPU's i was easily able to do negative 30 for the offsets. sadly with my 5800x3D CPU Ryzen Master will not work with tweaking like this, so i had to do the fine tuning in the BIOS of my aorus master b550, took a lot of restarts, but finally got my temps reduced by almost 20c... and got my full load clocks from default, an inconsistent 4.366 area to a constant 4.449 for my 5800x3D these are where i stopped PPT = 93% @95w (Default was 142w) TDC = 96% @65a (Default was 95a) EDC = 100% @100a (Default was 140a) i could easily play with these more. but i figured this was a good stopping point for now. i will edit this if anything more happens or i come across anything else. EDIT: started testing temps for the hell of it, using the furmark 1 and 2 CPU burner for max temps, the max my CPU got after doing this was 75c on an AIO cooler for about an hour, before with default settings and nothing touched i was hitting about 86c if not more(didn't do longer than 5-10 minutes on default because of how fast the temps shot up.). definitely more beneficial to do this on the 5800x3D, the other CPU's it did help as well, just not THIS significantly...
@@al3xb827 depending on the motherboard you may have to find how to edit or enable it. Usually googling your motherboard will help. I'm using for my stream pc a aorus b550 pro and then a master version for my main PC. Most of the stuff is similar for my motherboard from this video but differently worded. some things gotta go a different route to get there.
@@al3xb827 again, idk which mobo it is, not hard to look up though, does show some can, i don't know if all can. just type in your mobo and then "curve optimizer" or "how to enable curve optimizer" or something similar, should be able to find it. i do remember some lower end mobo's couldn't do a whole lot like that unless you had beta BIOS installed. but that could be for specific CPU's and mobo venders...
@@al3xb827 replying again just in case as it doesn't show i replied... idk, you would have to look it up. i still don't know the mobo you have. but just google your mobo with "curve optimizer" or "how to enable curve optimizer" then you should be able to find something on how to do it if your able too.
For those having issues with Ryzen Master requiring a restart after changing the PPT/TDC/EDC settings: In the new Ryzen Master it's a bit different. Once you have set those three values, below you'll see a row called "Curve Optimizer Control" and there you need to select Per Core and enter the curve settings which you have defined in an earlier step. This way you can keep the Curve Optimizer and the manual PPT/TDC/EDC settings. Still will require a restart though, I guess that's a thing with the updated Ryzen Master.
Getting boost up to 4.91ghz on my 5600x using pbo2 with curve optimizer and using motherboard for pbo limits Aorus b550 pro v2. Usually at 4.85ghz most of the time though. Temps never over 77c during benchmarks and 67c during gaming with Corsair h100i Aio.
@NagoyaR that`s what I too know too! afaik you can only get 200Mhz more with POB alone, and thats if you activate the Boost Override option all the way up
@@joak-web Well I 100% get 4.91Ghz during single core workloads. I have seen it in HWinfo64 and Hwmonitor. All silicion is not equal. And im not the only person with a 5600x that has achieved these speeds either.
R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore. Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test. When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz. I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen. My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x. I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low.
There are some kind of bugg in some motherboard thqts alow you to get +300Mhz out of PBO but did not work for me, non k intel CPUs had overlook too because of bugg. Depending on bios.
R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore. Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test. When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz. I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen. My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x. I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
Nice! Im a noob at oc'ing a cpu, and this helps me alot. Looking forward to some fiddeling later tonight. Also habe to check out the extended vid og ryzen master. Thanks !
@@TheGrayingTech I fiddeld so much I had to do a cmos reset.. now my network card wont work with ethernetcable. "Commom" problem with Realtek 2.5gb. Luckily, retailer said they'll give me a new mobo... I just have to send in my old one first 🤣
Thank you Gary. AMD's descriptions for this stuff is really bad and you explained it very clearly. The changes made a 45 min render in 3D studio Max take about 22 min. I did not expect such a drastic change and i was a bit conservative with my numbers than you were in the video. My temp at peak lode is a stable 79c with the 16 cores now running at 4550 or so. You rock!
If you want higher clocks, you dont need to increase TDC or EDC. My Ryzen 5900x is running CO + disabled PBO limits and it clocks 4.4ghz allcore on a max power draw of 142w, with single thread being 4.95ghz.
R5 5600x, below 130W and 4.96Ghz boost with 4.8Ghz all cores. Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore. Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test. When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz. I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen. My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x. I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
good teaching !, really this is most clear walktrough about how to optimize the ppt tdc edc thingy, is it the same with the 5800x3d chip? same logic?, subscribed offcourse!
@@catalystJJ I have the Curve Opt at neg 20 PPT 105 TDC 85 EDC 30 I have a 360EK aio Running Cinabench I boost to 4716 all cores. Core temps settle at 76.c after 20mins Hope that helps
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didn't work in my old x370 mainboard. PBO seems to be fixed at a maximum of +200mhz. But i was able to set an all-core Turbo of +300mhz, by using a large part of the video. Pretty cool, thanks
Can we PLEASE get an updated guide for the new Ryzen Master that requires a restart after every change? I sorta fucked with my computer and i regret even messing with ryzen master because now it didnt boot
You can save it, find a tutorial for resetting bios, It happened to me once when I first tried and there is supposed to be a manual way of restarting your bios IRL if it won't boot
PBO Limits set to Motherboard. And AORUS EasyTune set to OC = 4.5ghz All cores. In Cinebench R23 , Multi core 10 minutes Test throttling = 29901 points with a max temp of 81 celsius, (177,8 Fahrenheit) PC spec: AMD 5950X, AMD RX 6900XT, 64GB 3600MT CL16, ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360, Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme rev. 1.2.
EDIT: Used this guided 2 years ago when I updated my Ryzen CPU to 5700X. Running on an older ASUS Strix Z470 with bios updated to latest 9-23 version which adds support for 5 & 7 series CPUs. Updated Ryzenmaster and discovered Curve Optimizer. Would love to see an update addressing this feature for newer AMD processor tuning.
His method partially works now. Example when hitting the apply button it will restart and save to bios. Can't change pbo limits on the fly like he did with cb23 and ryzen master. Did you managed to change things like in this video?
top video, nice style and nice and clear...I have a MSi B550 Mortar Mobo and cant find any reference to a curve optimiser?...MSi seem to put settings all over the place, but im pretty sure its not there...is this a B550 limitation, or might it be called something else? I can find everything else...and I'm on most up to date BIOS...but nothing that looks like you can set a -/+ offset and adjust (that looks related to curve optimiser)...but quite likely I'm being dumb...it has been known! :-)
I just did step one and even at 30 my cpu didn’t crash. ThTs can’t be right can it? Ryzen 5900x Seems like maybe Ryzen master is overwriting the bios settings when I get into windows? I noticed there’s a new curve optimizer setting in Ryzen master now so I’m thinking it’s changeable here now which makes your video broken Update: So for anyone having this issue...there are two locations in my BIOS (Asus) that have the same stuff..PBO and Curve and all that..but apparently one location does nothing. Should have been mentioned in this video but wasn't. If you go to the stuff from the Tweaker tab, none of that stuff does anything, you have to go to advanced > amd overclocking and go from there. Not sure why they are in the Bios twice... Not only that but if you set a Curve in Bios then open Ryzen Master and click on default and hit apply, it will force you to restart. Clearly something changed in Ryzen Master since this video. All this made following this video very difficult. Actually impossible..because if I change anything in BIos then try to change anything in Ryzen master it forces a restart so I can't adjust all the numbers needed. Update 2: So I think the solution is because the new Ryzen Master has a Curve Optimization tab, once you set CO in Bios when you use Ryzen again you HAVE to use the Curve Optimizer tab and set the same thing you have in the bios here, before you can adjust anything else without it making you restart. All your adjustments will be made on this tab as well for testing, if you try to change things on another profile it will try to force a restart again. So confusing..but I got it working now...
Thanks for the video! Quick question, when I try to change the PBO values in Ryzen Master it asks to restart my PC and turns of the Curve Optimiser. Am I doing something wrong or is there another setting I have missed?
when creating a default profile like at 8:30 I get prompted with a restart request with changes CO - All cores. What am I doing wrong? If I accept id deactivates my Curve Optimizer again...
Hitting apply will restart windows and save the values in BIOS. No clue how you are able to increase/decrease PPT/TDC/EDC while running cb. Maybe the newer ryzen master is working better/easier, i dont know.
because of this explanation, I have the guts to finally undervolt my 5950X. I just wonder, if the boost of gaming you mention will be the same as IA generators and creators workflow like video editing.
Hi TheGrayTech I followed this tutorial, and this is what I got in CB scores stock test 5940 test with EDC at 51 from 31 8502 following the tutorial making all the relevant changes on my 7th test got a stable score of 9045. my CPU is having follows below. Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 3.60 GHz Installed RAM 16.0 GB System type Windows 11 pro-64-bit operating system, version 23H2 x64-based processor Is this good or should I run more tests I haven't had crash's yet, but I don't want to push my Louk has this seems like a big jump from stock. Or is this normal.
PS I continued with this still no crashing and I have a score of 9272 so I ran 3Dmark and beat the world best score with my CPU and GPU combo by 22% with the changes. I am getting 125 FPS in battlefield at 1440p 143 FPS at 1080p before making any changes I was getting 75 FPS at 1440p. and 110 FPS at 1080p A big improvement Thank you very much.
When testing the different curve optimization values, do I have to wait for each cinebench test to completely finish?? Or as long as it doesn’t crash when I start I can move onto the next test?
Hey! I have a Tuf Gaming motherboard. And I am looking for Curve optimizer and I don’t see it? Is there any alternative names for it? Or does my mother board just not have it? Thanks (I also have a 3700x if that changes things?)
Hi, thanks for this Tutorial. My 5900x can handle Curve negative all cores of -30. Cinebench r23 multi core and Single core runs without problems. As Soon as i start with ryzen Master.. all cores stop running. Should i reduce it to 25 or 20? Also the pbo limits which u had Set in the bios. Should i Take it also? Before testing with ryzen Master? Or pbo limits on disable or auto?
So I’m good up until about the 11:30 mark or so. My 5800x can run on -25. I created a new profile to turn on pbo so I could adjust the individual dials, but Ry zen master tells me it requires a restart. I hit ok. And then it turns off curve optimizer. My offset goes away. What am I doing wrong?
Just now realizing how much performance I've been leaving on the table. I thought that with Ryzen master, it was one stop and done. Other videos failed to mention going back into BIOS.
I'm running a 3600 on a B450 Tomohawk MBO. I'm still using the stock CPU cooler. I heard you mention you are running a water cooler. Are there any limits of how far I should be pushing adjustments? Great guide, btw. I have been using Ryzen Master to monitor temps for awhile. I did not realize it had this tuning potential though.
Stock cooler is only going to give you a little more head room. AMD built it to cover 99% of CPUs. If you can afford it look at the noctura or Dark Rock series of air towers. I used the Dark Rock Pro 4 for months before moving to water and it was great. As for settings, keep an eye on your temps. The CPU will self manage but if you want good performance you can't keep hitting the thermal throttle point. CBR23 will definately help dial those numbers in because if you see 85+ you know you are at the boost limit by that point. And if you have a good, stable frequency too, then you are at the limit.
Which score did you get ? Personally I can’t get more than 4000ghz at 98% on Pbt Tdc… Also I can’t find the PBO curve optimizer in order to adjust the magnitude. Any advice ?
@@wanted4576 Hey, forgot I ever dropped this reply. Since I posted this, I moved away from Ryzen Master since it overrides the BIOS. I upgraded my CPU cooler to a Cooler Master MA410M. For my R5 3600, I'm running a manual BIOS OC at 4.2 GHz with a slight undervolt now. It's been great. I upgraded my GPU to a 6900 xt, which is beginning to bottleneck my CPU tho. Next upgrade is a R7 5800x3D. I'll probably go with a PBO/curve optimizer OC with that. Zen 3 chips supposedly perform better with PBO.
@@tribalicone2871 Well, thank's for the quick reply 😁. I just don'tknow how you guys can undervolt your CPUs. I tried several times with my B450 aorus elite and it just crashed every time. Currently I overcklocked the r5 3600 to 4.1ghz with a dynamic vcore +0.280V (I can't find a way to adjust the Vcore directly in the BIOS and the auto mode is less performant). Because of the poor performance of my ryzen I think I'm gonna get a new motherboard/CPU after this summer, with the arrival of the new gens. 😅 I'm expecting something great from the 7 gens of AMD
Awesome Vid mate! Very easy to follow! I just have 1 question tho; I have a 5800X and a Corsair AIO. I don't crash with a -30 in CO. When trying to tune PPT/TDC/EDC, it looks like I can't go beyond the defaults as all 3 are sitting at ~96%. None of the 3 are maxed out! If I increase any numbers, no matter which, nothing happens. However im at 4.97ghz.
R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore. Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test. When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz. I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen. My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x. I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
every time I try to apply a different profile in Ryzen Master it prompts me to restart so it can enable CO - All Cores. At which point the Curve optimization in the BIOS is disabled. Not really sure what to do at this point.
I managed 23,239 multi core today with just PBO all core -20 and -30 on my fastest cores, on a 5900X no crash. Max temps was 84-7c each core ran about 4.575ghz. Also have OC RAM with low timings
for the 5800x people, If you google a little you'll find you're better off LOWERING the default PPT/TDC/ECD on the 5800x. You will get lower vcore (therefore lower temps) and clockspeed is going to be similar. Bumping these values my vcore was crazy high at 1.45v. Lowering them yields same clockspeed at under 1.3v
What were you’re numbers? Just want to see if I’m going in the right direction. I had a lot of success with lowering edc but not as much with the other 2
is there any difference if you find the PBO limits before the Curve Optimizer? I've seen a couple respect guides that do it in that order. Oh and what about the 200mhz boost? It's just optional and not included in this quick overclock? Thanks! 🙏
Hey man wery nice vid. So if i get this wright this should work for my r9 5900x. But i am not gaming i got this 1 for mining and how does that play out this strategy? This curve of optimization you said it goes from 0-30 what she alows cpu to get is it more power under control cicrumstances. If set to 0 gets les power to optimal perfomance or set up to 30 to get max, performance max, tdp pwr drom and max mgh boost. Am i understund this well?
Hey man need some help, followed Ur vid worked great and achieved 4,649mhz with my ryzen 7 5700x, a couple weeks have gone by since I overclocked and now when I do a cinebench stress test it'll start out at 4,649mhz then slowly drop in mhz the longer the test goes only doing a 10 minute test and by the end of the test the cpu is at 4,590mhz Ppt is at 90% Tdc is at 90% Edc is at 100% Temperature no higher then 80°c (limit 95°c) All cores stable at -30 curve optimiser Any idea wats going on?
Am I missing something or you have to restart the system every time you want to tweak the power values? This is so dumb. >.< edit: PBO2Tuner let's you do this.
Could you maybe give some further information on your Thermal solution? You mentioned it‘s watercooled? Any detailed information? Rad size, aio or custom etc… My 5950x is air cooled with a noctua nhd15. I can reach great curve optimizer results and pbo is set to ppt 205 / tdc 150 / edc 155. cinebench multi is around 29500, but i‘m definitely running into a thermal wall, almost immediately hitting 90 C when benchmarking.
I have a threadripper 2950x and don't have a curve optimizer option anywhere in my Asus Zenith Extreme motherboard bios. I'm trying to (ironincally) optimize single core performance to enhance my iRacing sim experience. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If helpful, i run iRacing with a Nvidia 1080Ti and HP Reverb G2 VR headset with 64gb of RAM.
Curve Optimizer -30 PPT 110 TDC 60 EDC 110 on a 5 5600x Cooler Master Hyper 212 and getting a locked 4649 MHz at 70° in Cinebench 2024 Multi Core Test.... Good Lookin Out... Im at 86% PPT, 88% TDC 100% EDC... Clocks so good I'll just leave it there.
Just use manual mode. Drop your volts to 1.3 and set your cores to 4.6ghz (ryzen 9 5950x) If you don't have a ryzen 5950x just set voltage to 1.3 and play with the cores speed until you get a crash and back it off 100mhz. Its a conservative overlock but close to the best you will get. If your motherboard has a switch between single and multicores use that to increase your single core clocks on your best cores. You can get up to 5100 on ryzen 5950x. Look up a video on that one.
Well I can pass 5Ghz too thqts ez but get stable is another story. R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore. Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test. When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz. I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen. My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x. I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
@GrayingTech, fantastic tutorial, quick question. When I run cinebench I'm unable to use/tweak ryzen master due to the system being used 100%. I mean the ryzen master screen is lagging behind like 20 secs, so impossible for me to tweak on the fly, same with any windows I open such as task manger etc. I'm running 5800x, 32gb trident z neo and 3080 so shouldnt be any issues. Seems you are able to run cinebench without any windows open freezing or lagging - What could be the issue for me?
When I run Ryzen Master, and click Apply under Creator tab, it says "Following configuration requires Ryzen Master to Restart Windows, then Ryzen Master will automatically open. *CO-All Cores. Do you want to apply now". And if I hit yes, it restarts and puts Curve Optimizer in BIOS back to defaults. Also, I have a Ryzen 7 5700X(65w), Ryzen Master shows TDC and EDC values of 60A and 90A as you said, but under PPT it shows a value of 76A and not 88A as you said, I take it 76A is the correct value for the 5700X ?
hi i dont speak english! but i understand a litle, i have one cuestion! my pc is only for gaming and i hace R9 5950x, what is the best numbers for PPT, TDC, EDC and curve optimizer??
Im using a ryzen 9 5900x the question I have is in the video states you can't use curve optimizer beyond -30 but I managed to have a stable -35, could I use that? if so would it be of a benefit?
When I am tuning it, my cpu doesn't go up in terms of MHz, it stays at 4.1 and never goes up, but in the ryzen master it says that the max is 4.4, is there any problem here?
The date of this seems recent, 2021, but the screens and functions or Rosen Master is very different now. May I also request Threadripper info get add to this series? Please 😇
I think that most of the youtubers make these videos because it is en vouge and all make them. Maybe 0.1% explain what EDC or PpT means and what they do or are for. All they do is what I do, see what happend when I do thinor that. I tried ryzen master first time last week to undervolt my Ryzen and thought yeah now the temps go lower also power consumption but no undervolting alone lowers temps and not power consumption. What is the goal: undervolting, lower power consumption with max speed? Get most speed / fps ? Regardless of power? Temps?
You’re literally ignorant, and a lonely asshole evidently. The video says and he clarifies at least 10 times in the video itself thag this is a less thorough, faster route. AND THE RESULTS ARE STILL THERE??? Like what??
@Collin Lutz it does what it wants even if I didn't set it myself, it underclocked my ram for no reason, it reseted my CO settings, I can't even apply anything because it always wants to set Auto OC mode but nothing happens after the reset and it still wants to apply the Auto OC over and over again even if it already is set on Auto OC
@Collin Lutz I am having a terrible experience with Ryzen Master and I have no idea why bcs everywhere I looked it worked and it doesn't even give me an error or anything
I tried to follow this guide but Ryzen Master is asking for restart after every single change... there's no way I can do this this way. Anyone knows how to make it stop asking for restart?
Hi @TheGrayingTech I used the RyzenMaster inbuilt curve orpiment that runs for 42mins on my 5700x testing every core individually and all core boosts. I can’t find RUclips videos about it but mine recommended a -28 offset and my PC never crashed but my OBS for streaming crashes after a few minutes. This wouldn’t be an overclock issue right? As in this is probably just an OBS issue?
What would be the Gigabyte equivalent of "Ai Overclock Tuner"? My MOBO is Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite and CPU is R7 5800X UPDATE My 5800X was able to get a Curve Optimizer value of -30 on all cores, after getting the values from Ryzen Master and setting them up on BIOS I managed to get all cores to 4,599(1 short :P) and a Cinebench R23 score of 15558. I didn't play with the "autoOC" offset stuff and I didn't hear you mentioning or showing it. I have seen some people take the 5800X to 5GHz but maybe that's under perfect conditions (perfect cooler, airflow and over 3000MHz RAM). I am happy with the result and don't really need more performance for anything but I think it's possible to take this "ideal silicone" chip far more beyond. Thanks for your amazing videos, they were so easy to understand! (First time overclocker). Cheers!
I just wanted to say I like your content. I'm an Engineer at AMD. Great job with the Ryzen Master tutorial.
Criminally underrated tech channel. Just stumbled upon it while waiting for my new Ryzen CPU to arrive and binged all the cpu/ram overclocking videos, and then some more xD. Love the detailed explanations and loads of practical advice. It's a shame I hadn't found this channel earlier, would've made a better choice when picking my RAM :) Keep up the awesome work, you deserve more subs!
Crystal clear step-by-step guide. Your way of explanation reminds me those few great teachers I encountered with over my past decades. Great content, fluent and catching presentation, very well done! Thanks!
This vid helped me the most so far in 2024 - I can now feel safe using PPT 180 EDC 155 TDC 145
Everything is within acceptable limits and I'm not even hitting 80c - A very kind 3% more in both ST and MT according to CPU-Z - Liquid Cooler 340mil NZXT.
I don't know if I'm going to pass a mem read test yet using unlocked AIDA64 Extreme listed in Armory Crate free utilities. If sensor panel=ON - Renaming files is dodgy.
Chasing the Holy Grail of eye candy and performance. Such is the life of a Technophile. A Gen X Shalomie Like me doesn't mind if they get caught skulking around the grey tech yard.
Most clear video about this subject that i have ever seen, thanks! Finally overclocked my 5950x properly.
Hi update from from last message you have to also enable pbo in extreme tweaker then it allows you to alter in Ryzen master also worth noting that the changes in bios to ppt ect will not take affect unless they are also entered in both pbo in the BIOS. Maybe this may help others that have had the same issue.
Good call out.
This was not the case for me tbh, i never touched PBO settings in extreme tweaker.
Great tutorial! I will finish my 5600x build today and going to inmediately do this!
This is the most information packed and usefull video about ryzen master tuning I have ever watched. I will start optimising my ryzen system immediately. Great work!!
Any idea why curve optimization isn't an option in my bios? It's updated to the newest one. I don't know what the problem is.
@@al3xb827 depends on chipset make/model of motherboard, i believe it's paywalled it's advanced tuning so you would have to buy pricy overclocking capable motherboard.
Thank you so much for the answer of question of all questions...that i can / should do both...curve AND pbo!!!
WOW thank you so so much this is the guide I needed as I now can tell what are all those values and how to use them.
Thank you very much for this video. I'm not the most tech-savvy pc user out there but you explained everything very well here
It gave my 3900x a nice performance boost
Cheers from Denmark
Clear and simple guide. Wish you would have shown before and after performance results though to reinforce your claims.
Thanks. Here are the benchmark runs. ruclips.net/video/DGsk8QNTJiY/видео.html
Sadly my 5800x doesn’t seem to hit 100% PPT or TDC even with a curve offset of negative 25. Tried playing with the values to get them closer to 100% but didn’t record any difference in frequency. I did, however, notice that dropping EDC from 140 to 120 gave me an increase to my frequency. Now running 142 / 95 / 120 but was able to add +100 MHz in the BIOS as well. Guess luck of the draw wasn’t on my side.
@@CoercedNut are you saying you want to lower these 3 numbers as close as you can so when under full load they're at 100/100? Does making your PC use 100% of the limit somehow increase performance or something?
Im absolutely obsessed for this Channel, Just luv Ryzen tunings.
I followed the guide so far, and was able to get to -30 with my 5800X and a Darkrock Pro 4! Time to follow the rest of the guide. I just hope it addresses single-core loads like CSGO and not well-balanced multi-threaded loads like cinebench.
How'd you go with that for csgo?
@@buck3t_ not sure. Any time I tried to select a specific per-core offset for my two strongest cores, the fps dropped. So I just left It at -25 for all cores
@@recnepSpencar I've been trying to find out how to oc my 3300x and all I found till now was all core oc's. This looked a lot more promising than just my auto oc 200 boost... I think i get 4500mhz ish on 1 core... Everything else is pretty much stock tho
@@buck3t_ Just know that combo of precision boost overdrive and curve optimizer is limited to Ryzen 5000
@@recnepSpencar ahh damn well I guess i can still try and tweak the other settings...
Best channel on how to overclock my 5950X thank you so much
Amazing tutorial, well spoken, and clear.
Really enjoy your videos. Great quality. Keep going, you will be huge when one trends.
Wow, thank you!
I am running an i5 from 2016 and it works fine with all games, maybe not maxed out on the geometry, but whatever. Can you imagine gaming on hardware even 10 years old? Its possible! So great
first of all, love the video and it's awesome you did this. has helped me a lot and from looking at the comments, be proud of making this video and that even 2 years later it's STILL helping.
figured since i would start tweaking my CPU's and have used this video and methods to tune my 3 CPU's, 5600x, 5700x and 5800x3D have significantly reduced temps and gotten better performance on all of them. all CPU's i was easily able to do negative 30 for the offsets. sadly with my 5800x3D CPU Ryzen Master will not work with tweaking like this, so i had to do the fine tuning in the BIOS of my aorus master b550, took a lot of restarts, but finally got my temps reduced by almost 20c... and got my full load clocks from default, an inconsistent 4.366 area to a constant 4.449
for my 5800x3D these are where i stopped
PPT = 93% @95w (Default was 142w)
TDC = 96% @65a (Default was 95a)
EDC = 100% @100a (Default was 140a)
i could easily play with these more. but i figured this was a good stopping point for now. i will edit this if anything more happens or i come across anything else.
EDIT: started testing temps for the hell of it, using the furmark 1 and 2 CPU burner for max temps, the max my CPU got after doing this was 75c on an AIO cooler for about an hour, before with default settings and nothing touched i was hitting about 86c if not more(didn't do longer than 5-10 minutes on default because of how fast the temps shot up.). definitely more beneficial to do this on the 5800x3D, the other CPU's it did help as well, just not THIS significantly...
Any idea why curve optimization isn't an option in my bios? It's updated to the newest one. I don't know what the problem is.
@@al3xb827 depending on the motherboard you may have to find how to edit or enable it. Usually googling your motherboard will help. I'm using for my stream pc a aorus b550 pro and then a master version for my main PC. Most of the stuff is similar for my motherboard from this video but differently worded. some things gotta go a different route to get there.
@@bobcamoh.a.f.2874 ok thanks. I have a B450 but it still should work. Right?
@@al3xb827
again, idk which mobo it is, not hard to look up though, does show some can, i don't know if all can. just type in your mobo and then "curve optimizer" or "how to enable curve optimizer" or something similar, should be able to find it. i do remember some lower end mobo's couldn't do a whole lot like that unless you had beta BIOS installed. but that could be for specific CPU's and mobo venders...
@@al3xb827
replying again just in case as it doesn't show i replied...
idk, you would have to look it up. i still don't know the mobo you have. but just google your mobo with "curve optimizer" or "how to enable curve optimizer" then you should be able to find something on how to do it if your able too.
For those having issues with Ryzen Master requiring a restart after changing the PPT/TDC/EDC settings: In the new Ryzen Master it's a bit different. Once you have set those three values, below you'll see a row called "Curve Optimizer Control" and there you need to select Per Core and enter the curve settings which you have defined in an earlier step. This way you can keep the Curve Optimizer and the manual PPT/TDC/EDC settings. Still will require a restart though, I guess that's a thing with the updated Ryzen Master.
That happens to me when I select default and hit apply. It makes me restart and reset the settings in the first part of the video
@@DeafEcho27 PBO2 Tuner let's you modify all these values without the need for restart.
*slams desk*
THANK YOU!!!
Subscribed. Awesome stuff.
Getting boost up to 4.91ghz on my 5600x using pbo2 with curve optimizer and using motherboard for pbo limits Aorus b550 pro v2. Usually at 4.85ghz most of the time though. Temps never over 77c during benchmarks and 67c during gaming with Corsair h100i Aio.
what values did you use? I have the same CPU and AIO cant seem to hit that frequency no matter what I try
@NagoyaR that`s what I too know too! afaik you can only get 200Mhz more with POB alone, and thats if you activate the Boost Override option all the way up
@@joak-web Well I 100% get 4.91Ghz during single core workloads. I have seen it in HWinfo64 and Hwmonitor. All silicion is not equal. And im not the only person with a 5600x that has achieved these speeds either.
R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore.
Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test.
When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz.
I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen.
My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x.
I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low.
There are some kind of bugg in some motherboard thqts alow you to get +300Mhz out of PBO but did not work for me, non k intel CPUs had overlook too because of bugg. Depending on bios.
Sooooo useful and well described. Thank you!!
Very well explained 👌.
Hope you will do an updated tutorial with a 7900x cpu.
This video is so useful. For my 5600x, I'm using -30 all cores, 110w ppt, 65A TDC, 110A EDC
why i can't enable ryzen master overclocked bro??i have 5600x cpu too
amazing, cant wait to get home and try this out.
ps. watched this right after the AMD GPU tweak video that you made
Thank you sir
R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore.
Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test.
When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz.
I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen.
My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x.
I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
Nice! Im a noob at oc'ing a cpu, and this helps me alot.
Looking forward to some fiddeling later tonight.
Also habe to check out the extended vid og ryzen master. Thanks !
Good luck!
@@TheGrayingTech I fiddeld so much I had to do a cmos reset.. now my network card wont work with ethernetcable. "Commom" problem with Realtek 2.5gb.
Luckily, retailer said they'll give me a new mobo... I just have to send in my old one first 🤣
Great video! Thanks! Helped alot. I can get my 5950x stable at all cores with curve optimizer -30 except for 3 cores which are on -20 and -15.
Thank you Gary. AMD's descriptions for this stuff is really bad and you explained it very clearly. The changes made a 45 min render in 3D studio Max take about 22 min. I did not expect such a drastic change and i was a bit conservative with my numbers than you were in the video. My temp at peak lode is a stable 79c with the 16 cores now running at 4550 or so. You rock!
Great video used to this overclock my 5900x 🙏 no problems and just improvements
Same, so far up to 4.7 on all cores at 75c. Not sure I want to go higher but I might :)
If you want higher clocks, you dont need to increase TDC or EDC. My Ryzen 5900x is running CO + disabled PBO limits and it clocks 4.4ghz allcore on a max power draw of 142w, with single thread being 4.95ghz.
I don't know who told him to go through all that crap for an overclock but he is getting bad results with all that work.
@@r0aver curve optimizer
R5 5600x, below 130W and 4.96Ghz boost with 4.8Ghz all cores.
Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore.
Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test.
When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz.
I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen.
My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x.
I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
Outstanding material, thanks for sharing.
I installed a new 5700x yesterday. It turned out to be really really easy. I overclocked it to 4.75 Ghz.
Have the same cpu. whats your settings? thanks
I downloaded Ryzen Master and set to auto overclock and ran the curve optimizer (it will take a while to set the required settings)@@menmabmx1995
Great guide. Just what I needed! Thanks!
good teaching !, really this is most clear walktrough about how to optimize the ppt tdc edc thingy, is it the same with the 5800x3d chip? same logic?, subscribed offcourse!
This was an awesome tutorial. Thanks a lot!
just got the 5800x. This still applies. Thank you.. New Sub!!!!
What's your max setting that's comfortable for you?
@@catalystJJ I have the Curve Opt at neg 20
PPT 105
TDC 85
EDC 30
I have a 360EK aio
Running Cinabench I boost to 4716 all cores.
Core temps settle at 76.c after 20mins
Hope that helps
Thats 80 on the EDC lol
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didn't work in my old x370 mainboard. PBO seems to be fixed at a maximum of +200mhz. But i was able to set an all-core Turbo of +300mhz, by using a large part of the video. Pretty cool, thanks
Can we PLEASE get an updated guide for the new Ryzen Master that requires a restart after every change? I sorta fucked with my computer and i regret even messing with ryzen master because now it didnt boot
You can save it, find a tutorial for resetting bios, It happened to me once when I first tried and there is supposed to be a manual way of restarting your bios IRL if it won't boot
PBO Limits set to Motherboard. And AORUS EasyTune set to OC = 4.5ghz All cores.
In Cinebench R23 , Multi core 10 minutes Test throttling = 29901 points with a max temp of 81 celsius, (177,8 Fahrenheit)
PC spec: AMD 5950X, AMD RX 6900XT, 64GB 3600MT CL16, ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360, Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme rev. 1.2.
EDIT: Used this guided 2 years ago when I updated my Ryzen CPU to 5700X. Running on an older ASUS Strix Z470 with bios updated to latest 9-23 version which adds support for 5 & 7 series CPUs. Updated Ryzenmaster and discovered Curve Optimizer. Would love to see an update addressing this feature for newer AMD processor tuning.
His method partially works now.
Example when hitting the apply button it will restart and save to bios.
Can't change pbo limits on the fly like he did with cb23 and ryzen master.
Did you managed to change things like in this video?
top video, nice style and nice and clear...I have a MSi B550 Mortar Mobo and cant find any reference to a curve optimiser?...MSi seem to put settings all over the place, but im pretty sure its not there...is this a B550 limitation, or might it be called something else? I can find everything else...and I'm on most up to date BIOS...but nothing that looks like you can set a -/+ offset and adjust (that looks related to curve optimiser)...but quite likely I'm being dumb...it has been known! :-)
Is there any chance you have your RM Profile file from ryzen master so I can use it? I have the same cpu. Thanks! Already liked your content
I just did step one and even at 30 my cpu didn’t crash. ThTs can’t be right can it? Ryzen 5900x
Seems like maybe Ryzen master is overwriting the bios settings when I get into windows?
I noticed there’s a new curve optimizer setting in Ryzen master now so I’m thinking it’s changeable here now which makes your video broken
Update: So for anyone having this issue...there are two locations in my BIOS (Asus) that have the same stuff..PBO and Curve and all that..but apparently one location does nothing. Should have been mentioned in this video but wasn't.
If you go to the stuff from the Tweaker tab, none of that stuff does anything, you have to go to advanced > amd overclocking and go from there. Not sure why they are in the Bios twice...
Not only that but if you set a Curve in Bios then open Ryzen Master and click on default and hit apply, it will force you to restart. Clearly something changed in Ryzen Master since this video.
All this made following this video very difficult. Actually impossible..because if I change anything in BIos then try to change anything in Ryzen master it forces a restart so I can't adjust all the numbers needed.
Update 2: So I think the solution is because the new Ryzen Master has a Curve Optimization tab, once you set CO in Bios when you use Ryzen again you HAVE to use the Curve Optimizer tab and set the same thing you have in the bios here, before you can adjust anything else without it making you restart. All your adjustments will be made on this tab as well for testing, if you try to change things on another profile it will try to force a restart again.
So confusing..but I got it working now...
Thanks for the video!
Quick question, when I try to change the PBO values in Ryzen Master it asks to restart my PC and turns of the Curve Optimiser.
Am I doing something wrong or is there another setting I have missed?
Same here
@@steveburke3 I found that once I had set my PBO values in bios then applied the CO, the values held.
@@tokzin3598 I had to use a different profile for all my settings to hold.
Stop use software and use bios
when creating a default profile like at 8:30 I get prompted with a restart request with changes CO - All cores. What am I doing wrong? If I accept id deactivates my Curve Optimizer again...
Same
Don’t hit apply and restart, just run the cinebench test
No need to create a default profile only the pbo profile
Hitting apply will restart windows and save the values in BIOS.
No clue how you are able to increase/decrease PPT/TDC/EDC while running cb.
Maybe the newer ryzen master is working better/easier, i dont know.
because of this explanation, I have the guts to finally undervolt my 5950X. I just wonder, if the boost of gaming you mention will be the same as IA generators and creators workflow like video editing.
what a great video, thanks!!
Hi TheGrayTech
I followed this tutorial, and this is what I got in CB scores stock test 5940 test with EDC at 51 from 31 8502 following the tutorial making all the relevant changes on my 7th test got a stable score of 9045. my CPU is having follows below.
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 3.60 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB
System type Windows 11 pro-64-bit operating system, version 23H2 x64-based processor
Is this good or should I run more tests I haven't had crash's yet, but I don't want to push my Louk has this seems like a big jump from stock. Or is this normal.
PS I continued with this still no crashing and I have a score of 9272 so I ran 3Dmark and beat the world best score with my CPU and GPU combo by 22% with the changes. I am getting 125 FPS in battlefield at 1440p 143 FPS at 1080p before making any changes I was getting 75 FPS at 1440p. and 110 FPS at 1080p A big improvement Thank you very much.
I did all this tuning but clocks are still not going over 3,8Ghz on my 5700x ?
When testing the different curve optimization values, do I have to wait for each cinebench test to completely finish?? Or as long as it doesn’t crash when I start I can move onto the next test?
very good channel, well explained
Hey! I have a Tuf Gaming motherboard. And I am looking for Curve optimizer and I don’t see it? Is there any alternative names for it? Or does my mother board just not have it? Thanks
(I also have a 3700x if that changes things?)
Hi, thanks for this Tutorial.
My 5900x can handle Curve negative all cores of -30. Cinebench r23 multi core and Single core runs without problems.
As Soon as i start with ryzen Master.. all cores stop running. Should i reduce it to 25 or 20? Also the pbo limits which u had Set in the bios. Should i Take it also? Before testing with ryzen Master? Or pbo limits on disable or auto?
Awesome guide and explanation.
Very helpful video. Thank you
So I’m good up until about the 11:30 mark or so. My 5800x can run on -25. I created a new profile to turn on pbo so I could adjust the individual dials, but Ry zen master tells me it requires a restart. I hit ok. And then it turns off curve optimizer. My offset goes away. What am I doing wrong?
Just now realizing how much performance I've been leaving on the table. I thought that with Ryzen master, it was one stop and done. Other videos failed to mention going back into BIOS.
did this and i got 400mhz on all cores on my 5900x ty for the guide
I'm running a 3600 on a B450 Tomohawk MBO. I'm still using the stock CPU cooler. I heard you mention you are running a water cooler. Are there any limits of how far I should be pushing adjustments? Great guide, btw. I have been using Ryzen Master to monitor temps for awhile. I did not realize it had this tuning potential though.
Stock cooler is only going to give you a little more head room. AMD built it to cover 99% of CPUs. If you can afford it look at the noctura or Dark Rock series of air towers. I used the Dark Rock Pro 4 for months before moving to water and it was great.
As for settings, keep an eye on your temps. The CPU will self manage but if you want good performance you can't keep hitting the thermal throttle point. CBR23 will definately help dial those numbers in because if you see 85+ you know you are at the boost limit by that point. And if you have a good, stable frequency too, then you are at the limit.
Using the same can't find all bits settings like the first ram setting and the amd over clocking
Which score did you get ? Personally I can’t get more than 4000ghz at 98% on Pbt Tdc…
Also I can’t find the PBO curve optimizer in order to adjust the magnitude.
Any advice ?
@@wanted4576 Hey, forgot I ever dropped this reply. Since I posted this, I moved away from Ryzen Master since it overrides the BIOS. I upgraded my CPU cooler to a Cooler Master MA410M. For my R5 3600, I'm running a manual BIOS OC at 4.2 GHz with a slight undervolt now. It's been great. I upgraded my GPU to a 6900 xt, which is beginning to bottleneck my CPU tho. Next upgrade is a R7 5800x3D. I'll probably go with a PBO/curve optimizer OC with that. Zen 3 chips supposedly perform better with PBO.
@@tribalicone2871 Well, thank's for the quick reply 😁. I just don'tknow how you guys can undervolt your CPUs. I tried several times with my B450 aorus elite and it just crashed every time.
Currently I overcklocked the r5 3600 to 4.1ghz with a dynamic vcore +0.280V (I can't find a way to adjust the Vcore directly in the BIOS and the auto mode is less performant). Because of the poor performance of my ryzen I think I'm gonna get a new motherboard/CPU after this summer, with the arrival of the new gens. 😅 I'm expecting something great from the 7 gens of AMD
Awesome Vid mate! Very easy to follow! I just have 1 question tho;
I have a 5800X and a Corsair AIO. I don't crash with a -30 in CO. When trying to tune PPT/TDC/EDC, it looks like I can't go beyond the defaults as all 3 are sitting at ~96%. None of the 3 are maxed out! If I increase any numbers, no matter which, nothing happens. However im at 4.97ghz.
Same problem
There's nothing to improve on if you're already hitting the max +200 speeds.
You won't get much better than that.
You can definitely get over 5Ghz with thqt CPU
R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore.
Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test.
When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz.
I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen.
My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x.
I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
every time I try to apply a different profile in Ryzen Master it prompts me to restart so it can enable CO - All Cores. At which point the Curve optimization in the BIOS is disabled. Not really sure what to do at this point.
Same here!
I managed 23,239 multi core today with just PBO all core -20 and -30 on my fastest cores, on a 5900X no crash. Max temps was 84-7c each core ran about 4.575ghz. Also have OC RAM with low timings
for the 5800x people, If you google a little you'll find you're better off LOWERING the default PPT/TDC/ECD on the 5800x. You will get lower vcore (therefore lower temps) and clockspeed is going to be similar. Bumping these values my vcore was crazy high at 1.45v. Lowering them yields same clockspeed at under 1.3v
What were you’re numbers? Just want to see if I’m going in the right direction.
I had a lot of success with lowering edc but not as much with the other 2
is there any difference if you find the PBO limits before the Curve Optimizer? I've seen a couple respect guides that do it in that order. Oh and what about the 200mhz boost? It's just optional and not included in this quick overclock? Thanks! 🙏
Hey man wery nice vid. So if i get this wright this should work for my r9 5900x. But i am not gaming i got this 1 for mining and how does that play out this strategy? This curve of optimization you said it goes from 0-30 what she alows cpu to get is it more power under control cicrumstances.
If set to 0 gets les power to optimal perfomance or set up to 30 to get max, performance max, tdp pwr drom and max mgh boost. Am i understund this well?
Hey man need some help, followed Ur vid worked great and achieved 4,649mhz with my ryzen 7 5700x, a couple weeks have gone by since I overclocked and now when I do a cinebench stress test it'll start out at 4,649mhz then slowly drop in mhz the longer the test goes only doing a 10 minute test and by the end of the test the cpu is at 4,590mhz
Ppt is at 90%
Tdc is at 90%
Edc is at 100%
Temperature no higher then 80°c (limit 95°c)
All cores stable at -30 curve optimiser
Any idea wats going on?
The UI on Ryzen master looks very different from your video, can you make a new video or please show or link the download that you use? Please help!
If still needed when first open click advance then go into the settings and put histogram on
Am I missing something or you have to restart the system every time you want to tweak the power values? This is so dumb. >.<
edit: PBO2Tuner let's you do this.
Could you maybe give some further information on your Thermal solution? You mentioned it‘s watercooled? Any detailed information? Rad size, aio or custom etc…
My 5950x is air cooled with a noctua nhd15. I can reach great curve optimizer results and pbo is set to ppt 205 / tdc 150 / edc 155. cinebench multi is around 29500, but i‘m definitely running into a thermal wall, almost immediately hitting 90 C when benchmarking.
Unfortunately, this video might be outdated. When you load up a default profile it disables the optimized curve and forces a restart.
Loving your content!
Thanks, I appreciate it.
I have a threadripper 2950x and don't have a curve optimizer option anywhere in my Asus Zenith Extreme motherboard bios. I'm trying to (ironincally) optimize single core performance to enhance my iRacing sim experience. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If helpful, i run iRacing with a Nvidia 1080Ti and HP Reverb G2 VR headset with 64gb of RAM.
Curve Optimizer -30
PPT 110
TDC 60
EDC 110
on a 5 5600x Cooler Master Hyper 212 and getting a locked 4649 MHz at 70° in Cinebench 2024 Multi Core Test....
Good Lookin Out...
Im at 86% PPT,
88% TDC
100% EDC...
Clocks so good I'll just leave it there.
My stock EDC is 130A is that the motherboard, or cpu? Also is that good or bad?
Super helpful, cheers buddy
Glad it helped
I tried doing this but every time I try to do an adjustment, it restarts and you're don't. What am I doing wrong?
What made you go back and drop down below 160 when you were done optimizing? Did I miss something important?
would it not be better to do the curve optimiser in the end so it does not limit the maximum overclock? since voltage is the base of overclocking
Banger tutorial
So my pc now won’t turn on after enabling the settings tried resetting the cmos
Each time I try to apply the settings, it forces me to reload and then still wont apply them, help!
Just use manual mode. Drop your volts to 1.3 and set your cores to 4.6ghz (ryzen 9 5950x) If you don't have a ryzen 5950x just set voltage to 1.3 and play with the cores speed until you get a crash and back it off 100mhz. Its a conservative overlock but close to the best you will get.
If your motherboard has a switch between single and multicores use that to increase your single core clocks on your best cores. You can get up to 5100 on ryzen 5950x. Look up a video on that one.
Well I can pass 5Ghz too thqts ez but get stable is another story.
R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore.
Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test.
When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz.
I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen.
My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x.
I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
@GrayingTech, fantastic tutorial, quick question. When I run cinebench I'm unable to use/tweak ryzen master due to the system being used 100%. I mean the ryzen master screen is lagging behind like 20 secs, so impossible for me to tweak on the fly, same with any windows I open such as task manger etc. I'm running 5800x, 32gb trident z neo and 3080 so shouldnt be any issues. Seems you are able to run cinebench without any windows open freezing or lagging - What could be the issue for me?
Great stuff!! I went from a total noob to having +30fps avg on warzone and feeling as a Elon musk in 30mins👍
When I run Ryzen Master, and click Apply under Creator tab, it says "Following configuration requires Ryzen Master to Restart Windows, then Ryzen Master will automatically open. *CO-All Cores. Do you want to apply now". And if I hit yes, it restarts and puts Curve Optimizer in BIOS back to defaults. Also, I have a Ryzen 7 5700X(65w), Ryzen Master shows TDC and EDC values of 60A and 90A as you said, but under PPT it shows a value of 76A and not 88A as you said, I take it 76A is the correct value for the 5700X ?
do you know how to fix it?
hi i dont speak english! but i understand a litle, i have one cuestion! my pc is only for gaming and i hace R9 5950x, what is the best numbers for PPT, TDC, EDC and curve optimizer??
Im using a ryzen 9 5900x the question I have is in the video states you can't use curve optimizer beyond -30 but I managed to have a stable -35, could I use that? if so would it be of a benefit?
When I am tuning it, my cpu doesn't go up in terms of MHz, it stays at 4.1 and never goes up, but in the ryzen master it says that the max is 4.4, is there any problem here?
Is it worth doing the overclock if you are CPU mining Raptoreum? not sure if running it at 100 percent 24 hours a day would cause damage.
Pc doesn't crash with negative curve on cinebench, it will crash on idle. Leave ur pc on idle for an hour or something see if it restart
my PPT says 1000 on Default? 5 5600X?
The date of this seems recent, 2021, but the screens and functions or Rosen Master is very different now.
May I also request Threadripper info get add to this series? Please 😇
The more of the videos i watch on this tool, the more convinced people making these videos have zero idea what any of these numbers actually do.
I think that most of the youtubers make these videos because it is en vouge and all make them. Maybe 0.1% explain what EDC or PpT means and what they do or are for. All they do is what I do, see what happend when I do thinor that. I tried ryzen master first time last week to undervolt my Ryzen and thought yeah now the temps go lower also power consumption but no undervolting alone lowers temps and not power consumption. What is the goal: undervolting, lower power consumption with max speed? Get most speed / fps ? Regardless of power? Temps?
You’re literally ignorant, and a lonely asshole evidently. The video says and he clarifies at least 10 times in the video itself thag this is a less thorough, faster route. AND THE RESULTS ARE STILL THERE??? Like what??
Undervolting is the new overclocking
Is this guide untrue? Im sorry if im misunderstanding your comment, is this video not to be trusted?
@@xaza5625this is one of the few that actually go in depth while still having laymen terms that are easy to follow
It wants me to restart PC after each change and it also resets my curve optimizer settings everytime this is so frickin annoying
@Collin Lutz it reseted the curve optimizer settings that I manually set in bios settings so I have no clue
@Collin Lutz it does what it wants even if I didn't set it myself, it underclocked my ram for no reason, it reseted my CO settings, I can't even apply anything because it always wants to set Auto OC mode but nothing happens after the reset and it still wants to apply the Auto OC over and over again even if it already is set on Auto OC
@Collin Lutz I am having a terrible experience with Ryzen Master and I have no idea why bcs everywhere I looked it worked and it doesn't even give me an error or anything
I tried to follow this guide but Ryzen Master is asking for restart after every single change... there's no way I can do this this way. Anyone knows how to make it stop asking for restart?
Same here
Hi @TheGrayingTech I used the RyzenMaster inbuilt curve orpiment that runs for 42mins on my 5700x testing every core individually and all core boosts. I can’t find RUclips videos about it but mine recommended a -28 offset and my PC never crashed but my OBS for streaming crashes after a few minutes. This wouldn’t be an overclock issue right? As in this is probably just an OBS issue?
What would be the Gigabyte equivalent of "Ai Overclock Tuner"?
My MOBO is Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite and CPU is R7 5800X
UPDATE
My 5800X was able to get a Curve Optimizer value of -30 on all cores, after getting the values from Ryzen Master and setting them up on BIOS I managed to get all cores to 4,599(1 short :P) and a Cinebench R23 score of 15558. I didn't play with the "autoOC" offset stuff and I didn't hear you mentioning or showing it. I have seen some people take the 5800X to 5GHz but maybe that's under perfect conditions (perfect cooler, airflow and over 3000MHz RAM). I am happy with the result and don't really need more performance for anything but I think it's possible to take this "ideal silicone" chip far more beyond.
Thanks for your amazing videos, they were so easy to understand! (First time overclocker). Cheers!