If you want higher clocks, you dont need to increase TDC or EDC. My Ryzen 5900x is running CO + disabled PBO limits and it clocks 4.4ghz allcore on a max power draw of 142w, with single thread being 4.95ghz.
R5 5600x, below 130W and 4.96Ghz boost with 4.8Ghz all cores. Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore. Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test. When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz. I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen. My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x. I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
Great video but I think i have missed something .... I have tried following but when I get to the "Tuning PPT" section of the video , no matter what values I put in in Ryzen Master , I cant get the cores to go above 4000 ?? Are we supposed to changed anything in the Precision Boost Overdrive area in the advanced part of the bios before we do this , or just leave it set at ... PBO Precision Boost Overdrive .............. Advanced PBO Limits ....................................... Auto Precision Boost Overdrive Scaler .... Auto Curve Optimizer Platform Thermal Throttle Limit ...... Auto I have a Ryzen 5900X and an ASUS Prime X570-PRO with 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro SL Thanks
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Hi update from from last message you have to also enable pbo in extreme tweaker then it allows you to alter in Ryzen master also worth noting that the changes in bios to ppt ect will not take affect unless they are also entered in both pbo in the BIOS. Maybe this may help others that have had the same issue.
I just did step one and even at 30 my cpu didn’t crash. ThTs can’t be right can it? Ryzen 5900x Seems like maybe Ryzen master is overwriting the bios settings when I get into windows? I noticed there’s a new curve optimizer setting in Ryzen master now so I’m thinking it’s changeable here now which makes your video broken Update: So for anyone having this issue...there are two locations in my BIOS (Asus) that have the same stuff..PBO and Curve and all that..but apparently one location does nothing. Should have been mentioned in this video but wasn't. If you go to the stuff from the Tweaker tab, none of that stuff does anything, you have to go to advanced > amd overclocking and go from there. Not sure why they are in the Bios twice... Not only that but if you set a Curve in Bios then open Ryzen Master and click on default and hit apply, it will force you to restart. Clearly something changed in Ryzen Master since this video. All this made following this video very difficult. Actually impossible..because if I change anything in BIos then try to change anything in Ryzen master it forces a restart so I can't adjust all the numbers needed. Update 2: So I think the solution is because the new Ryzen Master has a Curve Optimization tab, once you set CO in Bios when you use Ryzen again you HAVE to use the Curve Optimizer tab and set the same thing you have in the bios here, before you can adjust anything else without it making you restart. All your adjustments will be made on this tab as well for testing, if you try to change things on another profile it will try to force a restart again. So confusing..but I got it working now...
Crystal clear step-by-step guide. Your way of explanation reminds me those few great teachers I encountered with over my past decades. Great content, fluent and catching presentation, very well done! Thanks!
when creating a default profile like at 8:30 I get prompted with a restart request with changes CO - All cores. What am I doing wrong? If I accept id deactivates my Curve Optimizer again...
every time I try to apply a different profile in Ryzen Master it prompts me to restart so it can enable CO - All Cores. At which point the Curve optimization in the BIOS is disabled. Not really sure what to do at this point.
Hitting apply will restart windows and save the values in BIOS. No clue how you are able to increase/decrease PPT/TDC/EDC while running cb. Maybe the newer ryzen master is working better/easier, i dont know.
Getting boost up to 4.91ghz on my 5600x using pbo2 with curve optimizer and using motherboard for pbo limits Aorus b550 pro v2. Usually at 4.85ghz most of the time though. Temps never over 77c during benchmarks and 67c during gaming with Corsair h100i Aio.
@NagoyaR that`s what I too know too! afaik you can only get 200Mhz more with POB alone, and thats if you activate the Boost Override option all the way up
@@joak-web Well I 100% get 4.91Ghz during single core workloads. I have seen it in HWinfo64 and Hwmonitor. All silicion is not equal. And im not the only person with a 5600x that has achieved these speeds either.
R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore. Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test. When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz. I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen. My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x. I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low.
There are some kind of bugg in some motherboard thqts alow you to get +300Mhz out of PBO but did not work for me, non k intel CPUs had overlook too because of bugg. Depending on bios.
Hi TheGrayTech I followed this tutorial, and this is what I got in CB scores stock test 5940 test with EDC at 51 from 31 8502 following the tutorial making all the relevant changes on my 7th test got a stable score of 9045. my CPU is having follows below. Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 3.60 GHz Installed RAM 16.0 GB System type Windows 11 pro-64-bit operating system, version 23H2 x64-based processor Is this good or should I run more tests I haven't had crash's yet, but I don't want to push my Louk has this seems like a big jump from stock. Or is this normal.
PS I continued with this still no crashing and I have a score of 9272 so I ran 3Dmark and beat the world best score with my CPU and GPU combo by 22% with the changes. I am getting 125 FPS in battlefield at 1440p 143 FPS at 1080p before making any changes I was getting 75 FPS at 1440p. and 110 FPS at 1080p A big improvement Thank you very much.
@Collin Lutz it does what it wants even if I didn't set it myself, it underclocked my ram for no reason, it reseted my CO settings, I can't even apply anything because it always wants to set Auto OC mode but nothing happens after the reset and it still wants to apply the Auto OC over and over again even if it already is set on Auto OC
@Collin Lutz I am having a terrible experience with Ryzen Master and I have no idea why bcs everywhere I looked it worked and it doesn't even give me an error or anything
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Can we PLEASE get an updated guide for the new Ryzen Master that requires a restart after every change? I sorta fucked with my computer and i regret even messing with ryzen master because now it didnt boot
You can save it, find a tutorial for resetting bios, It happened to me once when I first tried and there is supposed to be a manual way of restarting your bios IRL if it won't boot
I tried to follow this guide but Ryzen Master is asking for restart after every single change... there's no way I can do this this way. Anyone knows how to make it stop asking for restart?
Hey! I have a Tuf Gaming motherboard. And I am looking for Curve optimizer and I don’t see it? Is there any alternative names for it? Or does my mother board just not have it? Thanks (I also have a 3700x if that changes things?)
I have a threadripper 2950x and don't have a curve optimizer option anywhere in my Asus Zenith Extreme motherboard bios. I'm trying to (ironincally) optimize single core performance to enhance my iRacing sim experience. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If helpful, i run iRacing with a Nvidia 1080Ti and HP Reverb G2 VR headset with 64gb of RAM.
So I’m good up until about the 11:30 mark or so. My 5800x can run on -25. I created a new profile to turn on pbo so I could adjust the individual dials, but Ry zen master tells me it requires a restart. I hit ok. And then it turns off curve optimizer. My offset goes away. What am I doing wrong?
For those having issues with Ryzen Master requiring a restart after changing the PPT/TDC/EDC settings: In the new Ryzen Master it's a bit different. Once you have set those three values, below you'll see a row called "Curve Optimizer Control" and there you need to select Per Core and enter the curve settings which you have defined in an earlier step. This way you can keep the Curve Optimizer and the manual PPT/TDC/EDC settings. Still will require a restart though, I guess that's a thing with the updated Ryzen Master.
======================================================================== In my Ryzen 7 5700G i have atleast 3 more options then you and i have found sweet spot for performance,voltage and temps but Manually and the problem is that this is the only option that i cannot pernamently write to BIOS becose i have HP BIOS OEM (Not many functions there) =( PBO dont have voltage control to undervolt...do you know any way to save, write pernamently manual optios to BIOS using Ryzen Master? /Or Its possible to set freq mhz using PBO right but Control voltage using PBO? ======================================================================== Sir Coud you please respond? Thx GREG
When I am tuning it, my cpu doesn't go up in terms of MHz, it stays at 4.1 and never goes up, but in the ryzen master it says that the max is 4.4, is there any problem here?
İ am not able to increase the PPT etc. And everytime i restart the computer the “precision boost overdrive scalar” goes to manual on its own and the curve optimizer disables itself. What am i doing wrong???
Thanks for the video! Quick question, when I try to change the PBO values in Ryzen Master it asks to restart my PC and turns of the Curve Optimiser. Am I doing something wrong or is there another setting I have missed?
I think that most of the youtubers make these videos because it is en vouge and all make them. Maybe 0.1% explain what EDC or PpT means and what they do or are for. All they do is what I do, see what happend when I do thinor that. I tried ryzen master first time last week to undervolt my Ryzen and thought yeah now the temps go lower also power consumption but no undervolting alone lowers temps and not power consumption. What is the goal: undervolting, lower power consumption with max speed? Get most speed / fps ? Regardless of power? Temps?
You’re literally ignorant, and a lonely asshole evidently. The video says and he clarifies at least 10 times in the video itself thag this is a less thorough, faster route. AND THE RESULTS ARE STILL THERE??? Like what??
Thank you very much for this video. I'm not the most tech-savvy pc user out there but you explained everything very well here It gave my 3900x a nice performance boost Cheers from Denmark
Hi, thanks for this Tutorial. My 5900x can handle Curve negative all cores of -30. Cinebench r23 multi core and Single core runs without problems. As Soon as i start with ryzen Master.. all cores stop running. Should i reduce it to 25 or 20? Also the pbo limits which u had Set in the bios. Should i Take it also? Before testing with ryzen Master? Or pbo limits on disable or auto?
This vid helped me the most so far in 2024 - I can now feel safe using PPT 180 EDC 155 TDC 145 Everything is within acceptable limits and I'm not even hitting 80c - A very kind 3% more in both ST and MT according to CPU-Z - Liquid Cooler 340mil NZXT. I don't know if I'm going to pass a mem read test yet using unlocked AIDA64 Extreme listed in Armory Crate free utilities. If sensor panel=ON - Renaming files is dodgy. Chasing the Holy Grail of eye candy and performance. Such is the life of a Technophile. A Gen X Shalomie Like me doesn't mind if they get caught skulking around the grey tech yard.
Hi İ have 5900x with asus prime x570-p İ give 4.4ghz 1.2 volt 4.6ghz 1.23750 volt What should i should give to have 4.7ghz İ tried 1.35 didnt work İ know i should follow this video İ am so noob All i know how to give volt and frequency How come when i put other peoples same result it never works İs all the chips different And about vdrop which program is the best tells me So far i use my 5900x 4.4ghz with 1.2 Volt's Maybe i should leave like this İt is so deep for me Thank you for the video
Curve Optimizer -30 PPT 110 TDC 60 EDC 110 on a 5 5600x Cooler Master Hyper 212 and getting a locked 4649 MHz at 70° in Cinebench 2024 Multi Core Test.... Good Lookin Out... Im at 86% PPT, 88% TDC 100% EDC... Clocks so good I'll just leave it there.
Tried this but does not work on Ryder 7800x3d cpu.. makes it waaaay slower. Went from 5.1 to 4.3 with the timings suggested.. anyway to actually OC this cpu using this software?
Hello, I have no "curve optimizer" option on 3950x aorus x570 master bios f36. I have looked every where, there is a empty space where its suppose to be. Someone please advise.
The date of this seems recent, 2021, but the screens and functions or Rosen Master is very different now. May I also request Threadripper info get add to this series? Please 😇
When I run Ryzen Master, and click Apply under Creator tab, it says "Following configuration requires Ryzen Master to Restart Windows, then Ryzen Master will automatically open. *CO-All Cores. Do you want to apply now". And if I hit yes, it restarts and puts Curve Optimizer in BIOS back to defaults. Also, I have a Ryzen 7 5700X(65w), Ryzen Master shows TDC and EDC values of 60A and 90A as you said, but under PPT it shows a value of 76A and not 88A as you said, I take it 76A is the correct value for the 5700X ?
Every time I hit apply in ryzen, it asks me to restart… is that supposed to happen? Also I decided to check my BIOS before the reboot finished and my PBO went back to disabled. I re enabled it tho.
Gibberish, what you are saying doesn't match what you are showing. There is no such thing as a Ryzen 3080, that's an Nvidia graphics card. How can we get on the same page when your page is gibberish?
Hi. performing this on an AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core Processor and using PPT=75 at 83%, TDC=50 at 56% and EDC=50 at 56% core #1 is 2780+- htz but the other cores are in the 1700-2000 range. I am almost at the lows of allowable PPT TDC EDC and the cores are not being pushed (running multi-core Cinebench 10 min duration test. not sure what to do next to get more out of my cores........thru out this my temp has stayed below 52C. any help appreciated. even willing to pay for a one on one session to optimize.
Can't do personal setups (legal & liability reasons, namely, I don't have insurance in case I break something). However, why are you going lower on the value? Are you seeing improvements in dropping the values? The 3950x should follow the same pattern as the 5950x; namely, higher PPT (200-210) and matching TDC & EDC (140-145 or so).
So when I enable PBO in Ryzen Master, it automatically sets it to "1,200". Is that 1200 % or 1200 Mhz, or what? Same with TDC=540, EDC=600. Are my numbers different because I'm on a 3700X? (I don't have a Curve Optimizer since that's only for 5000 series)
That was happening to me with the gigabyte x570 master. I just followed the tutorial and changed the values according to the percentages. I ended up with PPT 219 (~%98) TDC 153(~%99) EDC 147 (~%101) at about 84 degrees.
I'm running a 3600 on a B450 Tomohawk MBO. I'm still using the stock CPU cooler. I heard you mention you are running a water cooler. Are there any limits of how far I should be pushing adjustments? Great guide, btw. I have been using Ryzen Master to monitor temps for awhile. I did not realize it had this tuning potential though.
Stock cooler is only going to give you a little more head room. AMD built it to cover 99% of CPUs. If you can afford it look at the noctura or Dark Rock series of air towers. I used the Dark Rock Pro 4 for months before moving to water and it was great. As for settings, keep an eye on your temps. The CPU will self manage but if you want good performance you can't keep hitting the thermal throttle point. CBR23 will definately help dial those numbers in because if you see 85+ you know you are at the boost limit by that point. And if you have a good, stable frequency too, then you are at the limit.
Which score did you get ? Personally I can’t get more than 4000ghz at 98% on Pbt Tdc… Also I can’t find the PBO curve optimizer in order to adjust the magnitude. Any advice ?
@@wanted4576 Hey, forgot I ever dropped this reply. Since I posted this, I moved away from Ryzen Master since it overrides the BIOS. I upgraded my CPU cooler to a Cooler Master MA410M. For my R5 3600, I'm running a manual BIOS OC at 4.2 GHz with a slight undervolt now. It's been great. I upgraded my GPU to a 6900 xt, which is beginning to bottleneck my CPU tho. Next upgrade is a R7 5800x3D. I'll probably go with a PBO/curve optimizer OC with that. Zen 3 chips supposedly perform better with PBO.
@@tribalicone2871 Well, thank's for the quick reply 😁. I just don'tknow how you guys can undervolt your CPUs. I tried several times with my B450 aorus elite and it just crashed every time. Currently I overcklocked the r5 3600 to 4.1ghz with a dynamic vcore +0.280V (I can't find a way to adjust the Vcore directly in the BIOS and the auto mode is less performant). Because of the poor performance of my ryzen I think I'm gonna get a new motherboard/CPU after this summer, with the arrival of the new gens. 😅 I'm expecting something great from the 7 gens of AMD
Awesome Vid mate! Very easy to follow! I just have 1 question tho; I have a 5800X and a Corsair AIO. I don't crash with a -30 in CO. When trying to tune PPT/TDC/EDC, it looks like I can't go beyond the defaults as all 3 are sitting at ~96%. None of the 3 are maxed out! If I increase any numbers, no matter which, nothing happens. However im at 4.97ghz.
R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore. Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test. When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz. I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen. My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x. I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
@@mattsobrower5365 I had the same issue on Asus Dark Hero, I did find it by using the search function in BIOS. It "should" show up if you go to Advanced/AMD Overclocking. Click Accept. It should show up afterward under Advanced
Sadly my 5800x doesn’t seem to hit 100% PPT or TDC even with a curve offset of negative 25. Tried playing with the values to get them closer to 100% but didn’t record any difference in frequency. I did, however, notice that dropping EDC from 140 to 120 gave me an increase to my frequency. Now running 142 / 95 / 120 but was able to add +100 MHz in the BIOS as well. Guess luck of the draw wasn’t on my side.
@@CoercedNut are you saying you want to lower these 3 numbers as close as you can so when under full load they're at 100/100? Does making your PC use 100% of the limit somehow increase performance or something?
Just now realizing how much performance I've been leaving on the table. I thought that with Ryzen master, it was one stop and done. Other videos failed to mention going back into BIOS.
@GrayingTech, fantastic tutorial, quick question. When I run cinebench I'm unable to use/tweak ryzen master due to the system being used 100%. I mean the ryzen master screen is lagging behind like 20 secs, so impossible for me to tweak on the fly, same with any windows I open such as task manger etc. I'm running 5800x, 32gb trident z neo and 3080 so shouldnt be any issues. Seems you are able to run cinebench without any windows open freezing or lagging - What could be the issue for me?
My R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore. Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test. When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz. I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen. When my r5-5600x I have go too low Vcore it crashing that's why I have added Vcore offset +108mV to stay so close as I can 1Vcore on idle and 1.3Vcore avg and 1.4 ich on boost My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x. I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
good teaching !, really this is most clear walktrough about how to optimize the ppt tdc edc thingy, is it the same with the 5800x3d chip? same logic?, subscribed offcourse!
because of this explanation, I have the guts to finally undervolt my 5950X. I just wonder, if the boost of gaming you mention will be the same as IA generators and creators workflow like video editing.
Hey man need some help, followed Ur vid worked great and achieved 4,649mhz with my ryzen 7 5700x, a couple weeks have gone by since I overclocked and now when I do a cinebench stress test it'll start out at 4,649mhz then slowly drop in mhz the longer the test goes only doing a 10 minute test and by the end of the test the cpu is at 4,590mhz Ppt is at 90% Tdc is at 90% Edc is at 100% Temperature no higher then 80°c (limit 95°c) All cores stable at -30 curve optimiser Any idea wats going on?
Fuck, I watch this video. It's 3 months old. I'm like hell yeah, I have an asus mobo... there is no curve optimizer, not in advanced under amd and all that. My bios UI is exactly the same as the video... so confused. Trust me when I say I'm looking under advanced-amd overclocking- pbo -. Made it advanced, all other options are available except curve optimizer... now what?
PBO Limits set to Motherboard. And AORUS EasyTune set to OC = 4.5ghz All cores. In Cinebench R23 , Multi core 10 minutes Test throttling = 29901 points with a max temp of 81 celsius, (177,8 Fahrenheit) PC spec: AMD 5950X, AMD RX 6900XT, 64GB 3600MT CL16, ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360, Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme rev. 1.2.
I can't find curve optimizer? Its not under any of the menu's, literally dug into every one of them. 3800x + gigabyte x570 AORUS ELITE with the most recent bios (F36e, dated 14 Oct 2021) EDIT: would like to say, I believe its because you can't use curve optimizer unless you have a Zen3 (Ryzen 5000). So I did the EDC bug and set it to like 7 and I'm getting bursts of up to 4.6-4.7ghz for single core, and it evens out all-core around 4.3-4.4. I'm waiting for the 5800x3d to come out before I fuck with anything else, if that is good i'll upgrade to that, if not then I'll move to intel probably.
Im using a ryzen 9 5900x the question I have is in the video states you can't use curve optimizer beyond -30 but I managed to have a stable -35, could I use that? if so would it be of a benefit?
Hello, I have the TUF Gaming B550-Pro with a Ryzen 7 3700x CPU, I just updated my BIOS, and updated all my windows drivers. Yet when I go under advanced I still can't find the Curve Optimizer. I am certain I am in the right place, curve optimizer just doesn't show up. Is it because of the motherboard I own? I am very confused.
Either my cpu is GOLDEN or something very wrong at my setup... manytimes, when i use the curve optimizer, all my curve opt results in -30 which means , all my cores are magnificent? as far i know, the golden dream is to be able to use -30 on curve opt. but i suspect there is something else going on... can any one tell me why my clocks drop while optimizing the curve? for example edc drops to "120" while it was actually set up default "190"...in other words, the ryzen master tool is optimizing my cores at a very safe state. and as a result the optimizations always result in "-30" even at all core.
I don't understand how people can just overclock their systems and all is good for them. I've never had the right kind of luck to get any system I've had in the last 20 years to overclock correctly. I just don't get it. It's not cinebench that's making my computer crash. It works just fine but when I go to reboot the system to lower the curve again, it just boot loops endlessly. I just set everything back to default and it still just boot loops. I just reset the bios and it's good now. I think I'll just set PPO to enable and forget it. This just reaffirms that overclocking is not meant for me. Fml
top video, nice style and nice and clear...I have a MSi B550 Mortar Mobo and cant find any reference to a curve optimiser?...MSi seem to put settings all over the place, but im pretty sure its not there...is this a B550 limitation, or might it be called something else? I can find everything else...and I'm on most up to date BIOS...but nothing that looks like you can set a -/+ offset and adjust (that looks related to curve optimiser)...but quite likely I'm being dumb...it has been known! :-)
hi i dont speak english! but i understand a litle, i have one cuestion! my pc is only for gaming and i hace R9 5950x, what is the best numbers for PPT, TDC, EDC and curve optimizer??
Never got past your initial BIOS setting, for some reason it just wouldn't boot back into windows, any idea why? I am running a AMD Ryzen 7 5800x with 64GB DDR 4 3600 Mhz with a ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) ATX Motherboard. Hope you can help. Thx
Not sure what’s going on but my cpu does not go above 4.199, people on Reddit say that there is an auto lock on ASUS boards however I am unable to find the is option, is there anyone who can help me
I have a Asrock B450 motherboard and when I go to AMD overclocking I do not see curve optimizer when setting to enable or advanced , everything else is there though .
Every time I click apply it makes me restart my PC. How are you getting it to do the apply without restarting? Or are you cutting that out of the video? - Edit: Now i'm confused, I got the CO to -25 and have been trying to set that, but now whenever I try to apply the PBO profile it turns it off and wants me to restart the PC. If I turn on CO -25 it takes me out of the PBO profile. Are we not supposed to have both? UPDATE: I can not use curve optimizer in any profile other than the Curve Optimizer profile. So now I am doing PBO in the Curve Optimizer profile. My guess is this video needs updating as they have changed something.
Now I want you to go into the BIOS find a couple of these CPU voltage things that you've always wondered about and I want you to.... leave them like they are Yeah you know the default...Auto okay once you've done that...
I followed the guide so far, and was able to get to -30 with my 5800X and a Darkrock Pro 4! Time to follow the rest of the guide. I just hope it addresses single-core loads like CSGO and not well-balanced multi-threaded loads like cinebench.
@@buck3t_ not sure. Any time I tried to select a specific per-core offset for my two strongest cores, the fps dropped. So I just left It at -25 for all cores
@@recnepSpencar I've been trying to find out how to oc my 3300x and all I found till now was all core oc's. This looked a lot more promising than just my auto oc 200 boost... I think i get 4500mhz ish on 1 core... Everything else is pretty much stock tho
Hi I'm I have followed your video but Ryzen master will not allow me to change any of the PPT, TDC or EDC. I can enter the number but as soon as I click apply it switches to the original numbers. It will only allow for the numbers to be reduced not increased. Any advice please? 5900x, dark hero motherboard, dominator platinum cl16 3600 (4 x 8gb).
@@TheGrayingTech hi thanks for the reply as in my reply above unless it is entered and changed in both pbo and pbo 2 it will not work, problem solved but it is not something I have seen mentioned on any Ryzen oc videos.
@@leebookless7305 Wow I actually have the same issue. Can't change ppt,tdc,edc in Ryzen Master to do real time testing. I've had to reset and manually put in the numbers in bios and test each setting (very time consuming over changing these settings in Ryzen Master). 5900x, taichi x470, cl14 3200(4x8gb)
@@Lotsurc hi I am not sure if this will apply to your board or bios but with the Asus bios there was two pbo setting one with curve optimiser and one with out, normal pbo and pbo 2. I had to make sure that both of these were set exactly the same to make any changes but only pbo2 has the curve optimiser. Hope this helps.
I just wanted to say I like your content. I'm an Engineer at AMD. Great job with the Ryzen Master tutorial.
If you want higher clocks, you dont need to increase TDC or EDC. My Ryzen 5900x is running CO + disabled PBO limits and it clocks 4.4ghz allcore on a max power draw of 142w, with single thread being 4.95ghz.
I don't know who told him to go through all that crap for an overclock but he is getting bad results with all that work.
@@r0aver curve optimizer
R5 5600x, below 130W and 4.96Ghz boost with 4.8Ghz all cores.
Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore.
Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test.
When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz.
I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen.
My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x.
I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
Great video but I think i have missed something ....
I have tried following but when I get to the "Tuning PPT" section of the video , no matter what values I put in in Ryzen Master , I cant get the cores to go above 4000 ?? Are we supposed to changed anything in the Precision Boost Overdrive area in the advanced part of the bios before we do this , or just leave it set at ...
PBO
Precision Boost Overdrive .............. Advanced
PBO Limits ....................................... Auto
Precision Boost Overdrive Scaler .... Auto
Curve Optimizer
Platform Thermal Throttle Limit ...... Auto
I have a Ryzen 5900X and an ASUS Prime X570-PRO with 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro SL
Thanks
did you ever get an answer?
How come on my 5600, I have to turn off curve optimizer before I can adjust anything in Ryzen Master PBO :(
My mobo is b450i ROG
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Hi update from from last message you have to also enable pbo in extreme tweaker then it allows you to alter in Ryzen master also worth noting that the changes in bios to ppt ect will not take affect unless they are also entered in both pbo in the BIOS. Maybe this may help others that have had the same issue.
Good call out.
This was not the case for me tbh, i never touched PBO settings in extreme tweaker.
I just did step one and even at 30 my cpu didn’t crash. ThTs can’t be right can it? Ryzen 5900x
Seems like maybe Ryzen master is overwriting the bios settings when I get into windows?
I noticed there’s a new curve optimizer setting in Ryzen master now so I’m thinking it’s changeable here now which makes your video broken
Update: So for anyone having this issue...there are two locations in my BIOS (Asus) that have the same stuff..PBO and Curve and all that..but apparently one location does nothing. Should have been mentioned in this video but wasn't.
If you go to the stuff from the Tweaker tab, none of that stuff does anything, you have to go to advanced > amd overclocking and go from there. Not sure why they are in the Bios twice...
Not only that but if you set a Curve in Bios then open Ryzen Master and click on default and hit apply, it will force you to restart. Clearly something changed in Ryzen Master since this video.
All this made following this video very difficult. Actually impossible..because if I change anything in BIos then try to change anything in Ryzen master it forces a restart so I can't adjust all the numbers needed.
Update 2: So I think the solution is because the new Ryzen Master has a Curve Optimization tab, once you set CO in Bios when you use Ryzen again you HAVE to use the Curve Optimizer tab and set the same thing you have in the bios here, before you can adjust anything else without it making you restart. All your adjustments will be made on this tab as well for testing, if you try to change things on another profile it will try to force a restart again.
So confusing..but I got it working now...
Crystal clear step-by-step guide. Your way of explanation reminds me those few great teachers I encountered with over my past decades. Great content, fluent and catching presentation, very well done! Thanks!
I did all this tuning but clocks are still not going over 3,8Ghz on my 5700x ?
when creating a default profile like at 8:30 I get prompted with a restart request with changes CO - All cores. What am I doing wrong? If I accept id deactivates my Curve Optimizer again...
Same
Don’t hit apply and restart, just run the cinebench test
No need to create a default profile only the pbo profile
every time I try to apply a different profile in Ryzen Master it prompts me to restart so it can enable CO - All Cores. At which point the Curve optimization in the BIOS is disabled. Not really sure what to do at this point.
Same here!
Hitting apply will restart windows and save the values in BIOS.
No clue how you are able to increase/decrease PPT/TDC/EDC while running cb.
Maybe the newer ryzen master is working better/easier, i dont know.
Great stuff!! I went from a total noob to having +30fps avg on warzone and feeling as a Elon musk in 30mins👍
Getting boost up to 4.91ghz on my 5600x using pbo2 with curve optimizer and using motherboard for pbo limits Aorus b550 pro v2. Usually at 4.85ghz most of the time though. Temps never over 77c during benchmarks and 67c during gaming with Corsair h100i Aio.
what values did you use? I have the same CPU and AIO cant seem to hit that frequency no matter what I try
@NagoyaR that`s what I too know too! afaik you can only get 200Mhz more with POB alone, and thats if you activate the Boost Override option all the way up
@@joak-web Well I 100% get 4.91Ghz during single core workloads. I have seen it in HWinfo64 and Hwmonitor. All silicion is not equal. And im not the only person with a 5600x that has achieved these speeds either.
R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore.
Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test.
When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz.
I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen.
My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x.
I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low.
There are some kind of bugg in some motherboard thqts alow you to get +300Mhz out of PBO but did not work for me, non k intel CPUs had overlook too because of bugg. Depending on bios.
Hi TheGrayTech
I followed this tutorial, and this is what I got in CB scores stock test 5940 test with EDC at 51 from 31 8502 following the tutorial making all the relevant changes on my 7th test got a stable score of 9045. my CPU is having follows below.
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 3.60 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB
System type Windows 11 pro-64-bit operating system, version 23H2 x64-based processor
Is this good or should I run more tests I haven't had crash's yet, but I don't want to push my Louk has this seems like a big jump from stock. Or is this normal.
PS I continued with this still no crashing and I have a score of 9272 so I ran 3Dmark and beat the world best score with my CPU and GPU combo by 22% with the changes. I am getting 125 FPS in battlefield at 1440p 143 FPS at 1080p before making any changes I was getting 75 FPS at 1440p. and 110 FPS at 1080p A big improvement Thank you very much.
It wants me to restart PC after each change and it also resets my curve optimizer settings everytime this is so frickin annoying
@Collin Lutz it reseted the curve optimizer settings that I manually set in bios settings so I have no clue
@Collin Lutz it does what it wants even if I didn't set it myself, it underclocked my ram for no reason, it reseted my CO settings, I can't even apply anything because it always wants to set Auto OC mode but nothing happens after the reset and it still wants to apply the Auto OC over and over again even if it already is set on Auto OC
@Collin Lutz I am having a terrible experience with Ryzen Master and I have no idea why bcs everywhere I looked it worked and it doesn't even give me an error or anything
So my pc now won’t turn on after enabling the settings tried resetting the cmos
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Can we PLEASE get an updated guide for the new Ryzen Master that requires a restart after every change? I sorta fucked with my computer and i regret even messing with ryzen master because now it didnt boot
You can save it, find a tutorial for resetting bios, It happened to me once when I first tried and there is supposed to be a manual way of restarting your bios IRL if it won't boot
I tried to follow this guide but Ryzen Master is asking for restart after every single change... there's no way I can do this this way. Anyone knows how to make it stop asking for restart?
Same here
Hey! I have a Tuf Gaming motherboard. And I am looking for Curve optimizer and I don’t see it? Is there any alternative names for it? Or does my mother board just not have it? Thanks
(I also have a 3700x if that changes things?)
I have a threadripper 2950x and don't have a curve optimizer option anywhere in my Asus Zenith Extreme motherboard bios. I'm trying to (ironincally) optimize single core performance to enhance my iRacing sim experience. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If helpful, i run iRacing with a Nvidia 1080Ti and HP Reverb G2 VR headset with 64gb of RAM.
So I’m good up until about the 11:30 mark or so. My 5800x can run on -25. I created a new profile to turn on pbo so I could adjust the individual dials, but Ry zen master tells me it requires a restart. I hit ok. And then it turns off curve optimizer. My offset goes away. What am I doing wrong?
my PPT says 1000 on Default? 5 5600X?
Each time I try to apply the settings, it forces me to reload and then still wont apply them, help!
Very well explained 👌.
Hope you will do an updated tutorial with a 7900x cpu.
For those having issues with Ryzen Master requiring a restart after changing the PPT/TDC/EDC settings: In the new Ryzen Master it's a bit different. Once you have set those three values, below you'll see a row called "Curve Optimizer Control" and there you need to select Per Core and enter the curve settings which you have defined in an earlier step. This way you can keep the Curve Optimizer and the manual PPT/TDC/EDC settings. Still will require a restart though, I guess that's a thing with the updated Ryzen Master.
That happens to me when I select default and hit apply. It makes me restart and reset the settings in the first part of the video
It keeps wanting me to to reset my windows?
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In my Ryzen 7 5700G i have atleast 3 more options then you and i have found sweet spot for performance,voltage and temps but Manually and the problem is that this is the only option that i cannot pernamently write to BIOS becose i have HP BIOS OEM (Not many functions there) =( PBO dont have voltage control to undervolt...do you know any way to save, write pernamently manual optios to BIOS using Ryzen Master? /Or Its possible to set freq mhz using PBO right but Control voltage using PBO?
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Sir Coud you please respond? Thx GREG
When I am tuning it, my cpu doesn't go up in terms of MHz, it stays at 4.1 and never goes up, but in the ryzen master it says that the max is 4.4, is there any problem here?
İ am not able to increase the PPT etc. And everytime i restart the computer the “precision boost overdrive scalar” goes to manual on its own and the curve optimizer disables itself. What am i doing wrong???
The UI on Ryzen master looks very different from your video, can you make a new video or please show or link the download that you use? Please help!
If still needed when first open click advance then go into the settings and put histogram on
Thanks for the video!
Quick question, when I try to change the PBO values in Ryzen Master it asks to restart my PC and turns of the Curve Optimiser.
Am I doing something wrong or is there another setting I have missed?
Same here
@@steveburke3 I found that once I had set my PBO values in bios then applied the CO, the values held.
@@tokzin3598 I had to use a different profile for all my settings to hold.
Stop use software and use bios
The more of the videos i watch on this tool, the more convinced people making these videos have zero idea what any of these numbers actually do.
I think that most of the youtubers make these videos because it is en vouge and all make them. Maybe 0.1% explain what EDC or PpT means and what they do or are for. All they do is what I do, see what happend when I do thinor that. I tried ryzen master first time last week to undervolt my Ryzen and thought yeah now the temps go lower also power consumption but no undervolting alone lowers temps and not power consumption. What is the goal: undervolting, lower power consumption with max speed? Get most speed / fps ? Regardless of power? Temps?
You’re literally ignorant, and a lonely asshole evidently. The video says and he clarifies at least 10 times in the video itself thag this is a less thorough, faster route. AND THE RESULTS ARE STILL THERE??? Like what??
Undervolting is the new overclocking
Is this guide untrue? Im sorry if im misunderstanding your comment, is this video not to be trusted?
@@xaza5625this is one of the few that actually go in depth while still having laymen terms that are easy to follow
Thank you very much for this video. I'm not the most tech-savvy pc user out there but you explained everything very well here
It gave my 3900x a nice performance boost
Cheers from Denmark
I tried doing this but every time I try to do an adjustment, it restarts and you're don't. What am I doing wrong?
My BIOS has no curve optimiser
Mine as well. Not sure if updating bios will show it.
Hi, thanks for this Tutorial.
My 5900x can handle Curve negative all cores of -30. Cinebench r23 multi core and Single core runs without problems.
As Soon as i start with ryzen Master.. all cores stop running. Should i reduce it to 25 or 20? Also the pbo limits which u had Set in the bios. Should i Take it also? Before testing with ryzen Master? Or pbo limits on disable or auto?
hi what did you do
what are your settings my friend
What made you go back and drop down below 160 when you were done optimizing? Did I miss something important?
This vid helped me the most so far in 2024 - I can now feel safe using PPT 180 EDC 155 TDC 145
Everything is within acceptable limits and I'm not even hitting 80c - A very kind 3% more in both ST and MT according to CPU-Z - Liquid Cooler 340mil NZXT.
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Hi
İ have 5900x with asus prime x570-p
İ give 4.4ghz 1.2 volt
4.6ghz 1.23750 volt
What should i should give to have 4.7ghz
İ tried 1.35 didnt work
İ know i should follow this video
İ am so noob
All i know how to give volt and frequency
How come when i put other peoples same result it never works
İs all the chips different
And about vdrop which program is the best tells me
So far i use my 5900x 4.4ghz with 1.2 Volt's
Maybe i should leave like this
İt is so deep for me
Thank you for the video
There's zero overclocking involved here. You're simply optimizing the voltage and power usage.
Curve Optimizer -30
PPT 110
TDC 60
EDC 110
on a 5 5600x Cooler Master Hyper 212 and getting a locked 4649 MHz at 70° in Cinebench 2024 Multi Core Test....
Good Lookin Out...
Im at 86% PPT,
88% TDC
100% EDC...
Clocks so good I'll just leave it there.
power consumption: before 103W and after 191W, NO THANKS, kolejny The Bill
Tried this but does not work on Ryder 7800x3d cpu.. makes it waaaay slower. Went from 5.1 to 4.3 with the timings suggested.. anyway to actually OC this cpu using this software?
Hello, I have no "curve optimizer" option on 3950x aorus x570 master bios f36. I have looked every where, there is a empty space where its suppose to be. Someone please advise.
The date of this seems recent, 2021, but the screens and functions or Rosen Master is very different now.
May I also request Threadripper info get add to this series? Please 😇
my numbers are barely moving. ppt is on 500 running 11% TDC 245 at 6% EDC at 215 at 6% wtf is going on lol
When I run Ryzen Master, and click Apply under Creator tab, it says "Following configuration requires Ryzen Master to Restart Windows, then Ryzen Master will automatically open. *CO-All Cores. Do you want to apply now". And if I hit yes, it restarts and puts Curve Optimizer in BIOS back to defaults. Also, I have a Ryzen 7 5700X(65w), Ryzen Master shows TDC and EDC values of 60A and 90A as you said, but under PPT it shows a value of 76A and not 88A as you said, I take it 76A is the correct value for the 5700X ?
do you know how to fix it?
For my cpu boost clock override its saying positive negative or disabled what do i do help i have a ryzen 7 5800x and a asus prime b550M-A
I OC'd my 5600X and it's at 4.850 Ghz...that seems really high?
Is there any chance you have your RM Profile file from ryzen master so I can use it? I have the same cpu. Thanks! Already liked your content
Every time I hit apply in ryzen, it asks me to restart… is that supposed to happen? Also I decided to check my BIOS before the reboot finished and my PBO went back to disabled. I re enabled it tho.
Gibberish, what you are saying doesn't match what you are showing. There is no such thing as a Ryzen 3080, that's an Nvidia graphics card. How can we get on the same page when your page is gibberish?
My stock EDC is 130A is that the motherboard, or cpu? Also is that good or bad?
whats the difference between doing this, and doing it in the bios?
Need help. No matter what numbers i change on ryzen master. My peak wont go over 4ghz. Anyone got a solution
Any idea why curve optimization isn't an option in my bios? It's updated to the newest one. I don't know what the problem is.
Hi. performing this on an AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16-Core Processor and using PPT=75 at 83%, TDC=50 at 56% and EDC=50 at 56% core #1 is 2780+- htz but the other cores are in the 1700-2000 range. I am almost at the lows of allowable PPT TDC EDC and the cores are not being pushed (running multi-core Cinebench 10 min duration test. not sure what to do next to get more out of my cores........thru out this my temp has stayed below 52C. any help appreciated. even willing to pay for a one on one session to optimize.
Can't do personal setups (legal & liability reasons, namely, I don't have insurance in case I break something). However, why are you going lower on the value? Are you seeing improvements in dropping the values? The 3950x should follow the same pattern as the 5950x; namely, higher PPT (200-210) and matching TDC & EDC (140-145 or so).
Why cant i see the curve optimizer? I have a 3600xt and a rog b550 f gaming
Best channel on how to overclock my 5950X thank you so much
Ryzen master has a curve optimizer function now. I dont have to go to bios for this right?
So when I enable PBO in Ryzen Master, it automatically sets it to "1,200". Is that 1200 % or 1200 Mhz, or what? Same with TDC=540, EDC=600. Are my numbers different because I'm on a 3700X? (I don't have a Curve Optimizer since that's only for 5000 series)
That was happening to me with the gigabyte x570 master. I just followed the tutorial and changed the values according to the percentages. I ended up with PPT 219 (~%98) TDC 153(~%99) EDC 147 (~%101) at about 84 degrees.
I'm running a 3600 on a B450 Tomohawk MBO. I'm still using the stock CPU cooler. I heard you mention you are running a water cooler. Are there any limits of how far I should be pushing adjustments? Great guide, btw. I have been using Ryzen Master to monitor temps for awhile. I did not realize it had this tuning potential though.
Stock cooler is only going to give you a little more head room. AMD built it to cover 99% of CPUs. If you can afford it look at the noctura or Dark Rock series of air towers. I used the Dark Rock Pro 4 for months before moving to water and it was great.
As for settings, keep an eye on your temps. The CPU will self manage but if you want good performance you can't keep hitting the thermal throttle point. CBR23 will definately help dial those numbers in because if you see 85+ you know you are at the boost limit by that point. And if you have a good, stable frequency too, then you are at the limit.
Using the same can't find all bits settings like the first ram setting and the amd over clocking
Which score did you get ? Personally I can’t get more than 4000ghz at 98% on Pbt Tdc…
Also I can’t find the PBO curve optimizer in order to adjust the magnitude.
Any advice ?
@@wanted4576 Hey, forgot I ever dropped this reply. Since I posted this, I moved away from Ryzen Master since it overrides the BIOS. I upgraded my CPU cooler to a Cooler Master MA410M. For my R5 3600, I'm running a manual BIOS OC at 4.2 GHz with a slight undervolt now. It's been great. I upgraded my GPU to a 6900 xt, which is beginning to bottleneck my CPU tho. Next upgrade is a R7 5800x3D. I'll probably go with a PBO/curve optimizer OC with that. Zen 3 chips supposedly perform better with PBO.
@@tribalicone2871 Well, thank's for the quick reply 😁. I just don'tknow how you guys can undervolt your CPUs. I tried several times with my B450 aorus elite and it just crashed every time.
Currently I overcklocked the r5 3600 to 4.1ghz with a dynamic vcore +0.280V (I can't find a way to adjust the Vcore directly in the BIOS and the auto mode is less performant). Because of the poor performance of my ryzen I think I'm gonna get a new motherboard/CPU after this summer, with the arrival of the new gens. 😅 I'm expecting something great from the 7 gens of AMD
would it not be better to do the curve optimiser in the end so it does not limit the maximum overclock? since voltage is the base of overclocking
It sadly says that the overclocking option is not available on my computer
Awesome Vid mate! Very easy to follow! I just have 1 question tho;
I have a 5800X and a Corsair AIO. I don't crash with a -30 in CO. When trying to tune PPT/TDC/EDC, it looks like I can't go beyond the defaults as all 3 are sitting at ~96%. None of the 3 are maxed out! If I increase any numbers, no matter which, nothing happens. However im at 4.97ghz.
Same problem
There's nothing to improve on if you're already hitting the max +200 speeds.
You won't get much better than that.
You can definitely get over 5Ghz with thqt CPU
R5 5600x, Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore.
Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test.
When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz.
I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen.
My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x.
I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
I don't see curve optimizer in bios. Have everything else but the curve optimizer??Asus tuf x570
upgrade bios
@@OskyContrerasJ I have the latest. As far as asus website says.
Advanced \ AMD Overclocking \AMD Overclocking \ Precision Boost Override \ Curve Optimizer
@@OskyContrerasJ sadly no curve optimizer in the menu stated above
@@mattsobrower5365 I had the same issue on Asus Dark Hero, I did find it by using the search function in BIOS. It "should" show up if you go to Advanced/AMD Overclocking. Click Accept. It should show up afterward under Advanced
I don't think over clocking worked that way
System never crashed at negative 30. Is that ok?
The ppt doesn't do anything neither does the other settings change frequency
Clear and simple guide. Wish you would have shown before and after performance results though to reinforce your claims.
Thanks. Here are the benchmark runs. ruclips.net/video/DGsk8QNTJiY/видео.html
Sadly my 5800x doesn’t seem to hit 100% PPT or TDC even with a curve offset of negative 25. Tried playing with the values to get them closer to 100% but didn’t record any difference in frequency. I did, however, notice that dropping EDC from 140 to 120 gave me an increase to my frequency. Now running 142 / 95 / 120 but was able to add +100 MHz in the BIOS as well. Guess luck of the draw wasn’t on my side.
@@CoercedNut are you saying you want to lower these 3 numbers as close as you can so when under full load they're at 100/100? Does making your PC use 100% of the limit somehow increase performance or something?
Just now realizing how much performance I've been leaving on the table. I thought that with Ryzen master, it was one stop and done. Other videos failed to mention going back into BIOS.
I had to lower EDC to under 95 because of high temps..still hitting around 4,4 ghz on the coores with my i7 5800x 🤔
Yea 5800x is really hot.
I installed a new 5700x yesterday. It turned out to be really really easy. I overclocked it to 4.75 Ghz.
Have the same cpu. whats your settings? thanks
I downloaded Ryzen Master and set to auto overclock and ran the curve optimizer (it will take a while to set the required settings)@@menmabmx1995
@GrayingTech, fantastic tutorial, quick question. When I run cinebench I'm unable to use/tweak ryzen master due to the system being used 100%. I mean the ryzen master screen is lagging behind like 20 secs, so impossible for me to tweak on the fly, same with any windows I open such as task manger etc. I'm running 5800x, 32gb trident z neo and 3080 so shouldnt be any issues. Seems you are able to run cinebench without any windows open freezing or lagging - What could be the issue for me?
What if it doesn't crash at -30?
My R5 5600x,
Well I turned PBO first qnd then increase black from auto/100Mhz too 102 and get 4.96Gz (goes around 1.4Vcore) one core boost and 4.8Ghz all cores boost (with 1.3Vcore avg) idle 0.99Vcore. Gain 5fps avg more in warzone2 over manually overclock 4.85Ghz on 1.41Vcore. I have passed 5Ghz with 103Mhz black × auto with 4.9Ghz all cores was unstable because of my enoying ram memmory. Temp for my CPU around 66C while gaming and 72 on Cinebench r23 30min stability test. When I get home from holiday I will try to lower my mem from 3260Mhz to 3060Mhz and go for 103Mhz to get 5Ghz. I have tried 104 black with +200Mhz boost pbo but black screen. When my r5-5600x I have go too low Vcore it crashing that's why I have added Vcore offset +108mV to stay so close as I can 1Vcore on idle and 1.3Vcore avg and 1.4 ich on boost
My old back in the day i7-4770k was 120Mhz black × 39 to get almost 5Ghz on my old i7 but performance was like a r5-1600x. I have owned 1600x and was clocked to 4.3Ghz with air cooler and avg temp was 90C and max 107C temp. I did not push my old 2600 non x and was clocked low
good teaching !, really this is most clear walktrough about how to optimize the ppt tdc edc thingy, is it the same with the 5800x3d chip? same logic?, subscribed offcourse!
because of this explanation, I have the guts to finally undervolt my 5950X. I just wonder, if the boost of gaming you mention will be the same as IA generators and creators workflow like video editing.
I really don’t get this.. everytime I go to change the tdc etc it says to restart windows..? Any idea?
I think he used older version of RM.
New version RM, apply means applying numbers in bios automatically.
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Hey man need some help, followed Ur vid worked great and achieved 4,649mhz with my ryzen 7 5700x, a couple weeks have gone by since I overclocked and now when I do a cinebench stress test it'll start out at 4,649mhz then slowly drop in mhz the longer the test goes only doing a 10 minute test and by the end of the test the cpu is at 4,590mhz
Ppt is at 90%
Tdc is at 90%
Edc is at 100%
Temperature no higher then 80°c (limit 95°c)
All cores stable at -30 curve optimiser
Any idea wats going on?
Fuck, I watch this video. It's 3 months old. I'm like hell yeah, I have an asus mobo... there is no curve optimizer, not in advanced under amd and all that. My bios UI is exactly the same as the video... so confused. Trust me when I say I'm looking under advanced-amd overclocking- pbo -. Made it advanced, all other options are available except curve optimizer... now what?
PBO Limits set to Motherboard. And AORUS EasyTune set to OC = 4.5ghz All cores.
In Cinebench R23 , Multi core 10 minutes Test throttling = 29901 points with a max temp of 81 celsius, (177,8 Fahrenheit)
PC spec: AMD 5950X, AMD RX 6900XT, 64GB 3600MT CL16, ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360, Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 Aorus Xtreme rev. 1.2.
I can't find curve optimizer? Its not under any of the menu's, literally dug into every one of them.
3800x + gigabyte x570 AORUS ELITE with the most recent bios (F36e, dated 14 Oct 2021)
EDIT: would like to say, I believe its because you can't use curve optimizer unless you have a Zen3 (Ryzen 5000). So I did the EDC bug and set it to like 7 and I'm getting bursts of up to 4.6-4.7ghz for single core, and it evens out all-core around 4.3-4.4.
I'm waiting for the 5800x3d to come out before I fuck with anything else, if that is good i'll upgrade to that, if not then I'll move to intel probably.
Im using a ryzen 9 5900x the question I have is in the video states you can't use curve optimizer beyond -30 but I managed to have a stable -35, could I use that? if so would it be of a benefit?
Hello, I have the TUF Gaming B550-Pro with a Ryzen 7 3700x CPU, I just updated my BIOS, and updated all my windows drivers. Yet when I go under advanced I still can't find the Curve Optimizer. I am certain I am in the right place, curve optimizer just doesn't show up.
Is it because of the motherboard I own? I am very confused.
Either my cpu is GOLDEN or something very wrong at my setup...
manytimes, when i use the curve optimizer, all my curve opt results in -30 which means , all my cores are magnificent? as far i know, the golden dream is to be able to use -30 on curve opt. but i suspect there is something else going on...
can any one tell me why my clocks drop while optimizing the curve?
for example edc drops to "120" while it was actually set up default "190"...in other words, the ryzen master tool is optimizing my cores at a very safe state. and as a result the optimizations always result in "-30" even at all core.
I don't understand how people can just overclock their systems and all is good for them. I've never had the right kind of luck to get any system I've had in the last 20 years to overclock correctly. I just don't get it. It's not cinebench that's making my computer crash. It works just fine but when I go to reboot the system to lower the curve again, it just boot loops endlessly. I just set everything back to default and it still just boot loops. I just reset the bios and it's good now. I think I'll just set PPO to enable and forget it. This just reaffirms that overclocking is not meant for me. Fml
top video, nice style and nice and clear...I have a MSi B550 Mortar Mobo and cant find any reference to a curve optimiser?...MSi seem to put settings all over the place, but im pretty sure its not there...is this a B550 limitation, or might it be called something else? I can find everything else...and I'm on most up to date BIOS...but nothing that looks like you can set a -/+ offset and adjust (that looks related to curve optimiser)...but quite likely I'm being dumb...it has been known! :-)
hi i dont speak english! but i understand a litle, i have one cuestion! my pc is only for gaming and i hace R9 5950x, what is the best numbers for PPT, TDC, EDC and curve optimizer??
Never got past your initial BIOS setting, for some reason it just wouldn't boot back into windows, any idea why? I am running a AMD Ryzen 7 5800x with 64GB DDR 4 3600 Mhz with a ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) ATX Motherboard. Hope you can help. Thx
Not sure what’s going on but my cpu does not go above 4.199, people on Reddit say that there is an auto lock on ASUS boards however I am unable to find the is option, is there anyone who can help me
I have a Asrock B450 motherboard and when I go to AMD overclocking I do not see curve optimizer when setting to enable or advanced , everything else is there though .
Which CPU do you have? Curve Optimizer is still limited to the 5000 series at this time.
@@TheGrayingTech That's why ! I have a Ryzen 7 3700x on a Asrock B450 MB with a RTX3700 GPU .
@@TheGrayingTech so can i use the rest of the settings for my ryzen 5 3600?
Every time I click apply it makes me restart my PC. How are you getting it to do the apply without restarting? Or are you cutting that out of the video? - Edit: Now i'm confused, I got the CO to -25 and have been trying to set that, but now whenever I try to apply the PBO profile it turns it off and wants me to restart the PC. If I turn on CO -25 it takes me out of the PBO profile. Are we not supposed to have both? UPDATE: I can not use curve optimizer in any profile other than the Curve Optimizer profile. So now I am doing PBO in the Curve Optimizer profile. My guess is this video needs updating as they have changed something.
Now I want you to go into the BIOS find a couple of these CPU voltage things that you've always wondered about and I want you to.... leave them like they are
Yeah you know the default...Auto okay once you've done that...
I followed the guide so far, and was able to get to -30 with my 5800X and a Darkrock Pro 4! Time to follow the rest of the guide. I just hope it addresses single-core loads like CSGO and not well-balanced multi-threaded loads like cinebench.
How'd you go with that for csgo?
@@buck3t_ not sure. Any time I tried to select a specific per-core offset for my two strongest cores, the fps dropped. So I just left It at -25 for all cores
@@recnepSpencar I've been trying to find out how to oc my 3300x and all I found till now was all core oc's. This looked a lot more promising than just my auto oc 200 boost... I think i get 4500mhz ish on 1 core... Everything else is pretty much stock tho
@@buck3t_ Just know that combo of precision boost overdrive and curve optimizer is limited to Ryzen 5000
@@recnepSpencar ahh damn well I guess i can still try and tweak the other settings...
Bro there is no curve optimiser
Hi I'm I have followed your video but Ryzen master will not allow me to change any of the PPT, TDC or EDC. I can enter the number but as soon as I click apply it switches to the original numbers. It will only allow for the numbers to be reduced not increased. Any advice please?
5900x, dark hero motherboard, dominator platinum cl16 3600 (4 x 8gb).
You have the right board for it, make sure PBO2 is enabled in the BIOS. What happens when you press apply & test?
@@TheGrayingTech hi thanks for the reply as in my reply above unless it is entered and changed in both pbo and pbo 2 it will not work, problem solved but it is not something I have seen mentioned on any Ryzen oc videos.
@@leebookless7305 Wow I actually have the same issue. Can't change ppt,tdc,edc in Ryzen Master to do real time testing. I've had to reset and manually put in the numbers in bios and test each setting (very time consuming over changing these settings in Ryzen Master). 5900x, taichi x470, cl14 3200(4x8gb)
@@Lotsurc hi I am not sure if this will apply to your board or bios but with the Asus bios there was two pbo setting one with curve optimiser and one with out, normal pbo and pbo 2. I had to make sure that both of these were set exactly the same to make any changes but only pbo2 has the curve optimiser. Hope this helps.