@@grayestrat Honestly, I really like the fight and I wish I could say it was my favorite boss but he’s just got a bit too much crap for me to hold that opinion. Ifeel like his moveset is damn near perfect in all of its good attacks, with the minor exception of how hard it is to stagger him. For casual players I do think it is a bit too insane but for challenges he is so extremely fun, except for 2 really unfortunate things. The first and worst obviously being the cross slash, it sucks that you have to either use a specific tool and playstyle to avoid it, or forego punish windows and play awkwardly to be able to roll it to the side, and it brings the fight down a lot. The second issue isn’t nearly as bad but it still sucks, which is the gravity boulder thing combined with his follow up multi slams. For the most part it’s fine but if he does it far away or backs you into a corner with it you are just screwed and it’s a bit too inconsistent to be tolerable. Overall, he is a great boss and if the cross slash was removed and the boulder attack more consistent with walls and range, he might be my favorite boss in the game and the series, but these issues are big enough that he is probably sitting around the #3 or #4 spot for me in Elden Ring and probably at the bottom of my top 10 in the series, or just outside of it. Also Wing of Astel is so fun, Nebula kinda felt cheap because of how much damage it does but I didn’t want to put up with the cross slash and just gave in to using it, made the fight a bit too easy tbh
@SacredWalrus still much more generous than most give him. I've barely spent any time learning him but your words give me hope of liking him when I finally fight him more.
@@grayestrat Yeah, I know most people absolutely hate him, and I think it’s mostly because learning him is miserable, but once you have learned him he is incredible aside from the issues I talked about earlier. I think for most people the learning process is most of the fight and in that case I get why they hate him but for someone like me who goes back and fights him in many different challenges it is a really fun fight. I hope you come to enjoy him once you learn him as well, but that process is ridiculously punishing
@@grayestrat Honestly, I think, similarly to his quality, his difficulty is very different when you’re learning him vs once you know him. He has very few mix ups or things to watch out for. You have to playa round double slash but other than that everything he does is pretty predictable, and for Hitless Rellana is probably waaaaaay harder
I have to ask now that you can do the fight this damn clean. What do you think of this boss? Always love seeing Wing of Astel
@@grayestrat Honestly, I really like the fight and I wish I could say it was my favorite boss but he’s just got a bit too much crap for me to hold that opinion. Ifeel like his moveset is damn near perfect in all of its good attacks, with the minor exception of how hard it is to stagger him. For casual players I do think it is a bit too insane but for challenges he is so extremely fun, except for 2 really unfortunate things. The first and worst obviously being the cross slash, it sucks that you have to either use a specific tool and playstyle to avoid it, or forego punish windows and play awkwardly to be able to roll it to the side, and it brings the fight down a lot. The second issue isn’t nearly as bad but it still sucks, which is the gravity boulder thing combined with his follow up multi slams. For the most part it’s fine but if he does it far away or backs you into a corner with it you are just screwed and it’s a bit too inconsistent to be tolerable. Overall, he is a great boss and if the cross slash was removed and the boulder attack more consistent with walls and range, he might be my favorite boss in the game and the series, but these issues are big enough that he is probably sitting around the #3 or #4 spot for me in Elden Ring and probably at the bottom of my top 10 in the series, or just outside of it. Also Wing of Astel is so fun, Nebula kinda felt cheap because of how much damage it does but I didn’t want to put up with the cross slash and just gave in to using it, made the fight a bit too easy tbh
@SacredWalrus still much more generous than most give him. I've barely spent any time learning him but your words give me hope of liking him when I finally fight him more.
@@grayestrat Yeah, I know most people absolutely hate him, and I think it’s mostly because learning him is miserable, but once you have learned him he is incredible aside from the issues I talked about earlier. I think for most people the learning process is most of the fight and in that case I get why they hate him but for someone like me who goes back and fights him in many different challenges it is a really fun fight. I hope you come to enjoy him once you learn him as well, but that process is ridiculously punishing
@SacredWalrus I don't see how it could possibly be harder than rellana but I am going to commit as I have with the ones ive learned so far
@@grayestrat Honestly, I think, similarly to his quality, his difficulty is very different when you’re learning him vs once you know him. He has very few mix ups or things to watch out for. You have to playa round double slash but other than that everything he does is pretty predictable, and for Hitless Rellana is probably waaaaaay harder