Unfortunately stupid ass people keep paying these freaking market price adjustments and markups so they keep doing it because they don't mind paying 5-10k extra so they can tell everyone they got the newest model.
@user-xh2yg4uv9q yes, 32 tops, but these prices for base model trucks are insane! Back in 2022 you could get a nramd new 1794 or Platinum Tundra for 53-54k out the door. Now, a base SR5 with cloth seats runs more than that!
Let it rot on the lots. Boycott ALL dealers for 90 days and I guarantee you, cheaper prices by day 100. But WE ALL have to do it.... takes ALL OF US. Be smart people.
When the inventory is greater than the demand...price and arrogance of dealers will come down. Just explained that this morning to a salesman that wanted a $ 500 deposit to get in line. I would rather just wait and will. Even if I never get one.
I bought my assembled in America 2018 SR5 late in 2018 after the 2019 models came out. The dealership had about 20 of the 2018's sitting on the lot. Paid $26,000 for it. Right place, right time. Shop smart everyone, don't be impulsive.
Same here. Had an 18 taco TRD offroad bought new in early 18. out the door was upper 36k. Sold it in 20 during Covid w/ 30k miles and got 34k for the truck during the truck shortage
I have an '18 TRD Offroad LB. I paid $33K. It has 24K miles on it. I'm thinking about a '24 trd offroad lb hybrid. Waiting to see pricing and mpg. I may keep my '18 forever if they try to gouge me.
I grew up in a town with a Toyota dealer with huge mark ups and obnoxious sales people. It was a really unpleasant place. Anyway it turned me off to the brand for years. I eventually got over it when I lived in another place with a Toyota dealership that was the polar opposite, knowledgeable & respectful sales people and no B.S. with expensive add-ons. The manufacturers would be wise to monitor this. Look around, there are good Toyota dealerships out there, I wish they all were.
People don’t call them the stealership for nothing. They mark up the price is because they know 50 guys come in sniffing at it and one out of 50 will bite. They did their homework.
@@revnation_autoCanadian dealers mark up the price too, they just have to show it in any advertisements for that particular vehicle as the "total advertised price". To get around it they'll have one truck that's not marked up and used for advertising but if you ever go in to buy that particular truck you can guarantee that "oh dang, someone juuuuuustt put down a deposit on that one but we've got a couple more we can show you."
The banks are at fault too because the truck is not worth the extra 5K in mark ups. So if they give the loan that is instant negative equity right off the bat on top of all the other negitive equity from driving off the lot with a brand new truck.
You are totally spot on. It should be illegal for banks to put you under water on a new truck. And of course…if the bank doesn’t give you the loan…GMAC,Chrysler,Toyota,Ford..will finance it for you!
The banks don't really care about the collateral, when they write a loan they create money out of thin air. what they want is for you to continue paying on it so they can collect the interest on it. The last thing they want to do is repo the truck, that costs them more time and money and then they have to sell it. If something happens and you have trouble making your payments they will work with you on it. believe it or not they really don't want the vehicle.
I paid $23K for a new Ram 1500 Tradesman in 2018. Used to drive it every day but with the price of new trucks it stays parked for whenever i truly need to use a truck.
@@jmyers6175 not in my area they don't.....no bogus scam markup's like that at any local dealer now, they marked the 2023's down to get rid of them and don't even have any 2024's on the lot.
I watched a guy blow up his 2024 TACO front wheel locks when attempting a 4x4 Trail in snow. The RUclips show reviews the trucks they buy on off road trails to show true functionality. I think I’ll stay with proven old school tech you find in Nissan Frontier.
The dirt road they were on wasn't even really off roaring either. Just a bad design by Toyota. I hear Nissan is offering discounts and incentives so you can buy well under MSRP.
I had a Nissan Frontier that broke down and left me stranded. I live in Wyoming and am often in the middle of nowhere. Never going near a Nissan shit box again.
@@drn13355 I had a "pre-Nissan" way back when (bought new): a 1973 Datsun 1200 Coupe. Was the best/most reliable car I've ever. It had maybe 700-750K (?) miles on it (odometer broke at 400K) by the time I had to part with it after 32 years (!) because I couldn't get parts for it anymore. Then I had a 1985 Nissan 200SX LE...it was also very reliable (but got taken out in an accident with a 18-wheeler). Had 2 Hondas -- a 2006 CRV and 2016 Pilot -- the CRV had several major (and expensive) issues the Pilot had none. Had a 2014 Subaru Crosstrek XV...only 3 years though but no issues, just the lest comfortable seats ever, and it's heater didn't work well in single-digit or -0 temps we sometimes had in Colorado. But its AWD was amazing. Now I have a "POS/Crap Stellantis Jeep" as some people say, but so far, it's been great. So you never really know anymore what brand to go with. Car-buying seems to be a crap-shoot and you might have better odds picking a GOOD one at a casino in Las Vegas. -- BR
A SR5 🤯53k,,,,, I payed 41,100 for my Colorado Trail Boss and got every option available ! I’m so glad I didn’t wait for this truck! After taxes 56k out the door, after finance about 70k I did Lyft with my Corolla and payed off my Colorado TB in 5 months, I only have 2700 miles on it ,,They make their money off of extended warranty’s and finance for 5,6,7 years!
I just watched the RUclips, just about 30 minutes ago. There was not anything crazy on the trail yet things broke down. Toyota now days, low quality material, high price tag on their products. Tundra are breaking down left and right everyday. 2022-2023 year. 2024 hasn't been there yet, Maybe one or two.
@@servenbolt6800 I took the 7 year warranty , bumper to bumper . I got it for an extra 1495... They first offered it at 3995 , then 2495 , then I took it at 1495, ...The 2023 Tacoma came with a three year bumper to bumper Warranty ( well mine did ) ..... did any get the extend 7 year warranty .... or did they purchase it , or was it free with your Truck ?
This is a very Accurate Statement; Instead of being true to the longstanding ideals of Quality and Fair Value from Japan, looks like the Toyota Top Dudes are now just like Criminal Americans. Very sad. @@runrundave
And all of the Toyota fanboys got butthurt when I pointed out that Andre’s Colorado handled what Toyota called “extreme conditions” just fine as it towed that new Tacoma out after it failed 😂 Toyota has been coasting on their previous reputation for quality for years, now.
I happened across your video. You said it correctly. The prices will not come down until we all stop buying this stuff. When they run out of Toyota fanboys, early adopters and those that have more money than common sense, perhaps reality will kick in.
This truck has become just another one of the herd. It will have loads of issues for a couple years just like the rest. Frontier is the safest bet at this point.
Prices are Inflation adjusted dollars ....prices have gone up that much ...because of Joe bidens " Inflation Reduction Act" ....It was a tranzverse , double reduction extenuation bam boozle 1.21 gigawatt tri superhetrodine inflation reduction plan....it worked , for them
It's a 25k truck then you add in all the BS due to the way the demoRats have destroyed our energy sector ( coal, NG, Steel ) and then price jumps to 50k plus....
My 1992 F-150 6 cylinder 2-wheel drive has 226,240 miles on it and I drive it all the time. When a part stops working I replace it myself if I can, otherwise I have a shop replace it. Nice truck -- I'm keeping it forever.
A man after my own heart. My 87 Nissan has 425,000 on it. Nice and slow with 100 hp. At least I can identify the parts. Ford straight sixes are hard to kill.
@@RaysDad slowly getting there. I have some catchup to do. Brian Murphy drove his 2007 Frontier a million miles and Nissan gave him a new one. It's under "million mile Frontier" on RUclips. He wore out the seat and had to replace it.
@@jeanclaude7018 I watched the video! When his odometer registered all nines it froze there, so now to keep track of mileage he uses the trip odometer.
@@RaysDad I wonder if even Nissan itself knew some of their rigs would go that far? They needed another digit. Many people on the web say Nissan is junk. I always send them to that video. When I bought mine used in 1995 for $2500, it already had 204,000 miles. I thought I would use it a few years and upgrade. Now I've had it half my life. The old trucks have real value.
The Toyota dealership next to me isn’t pulling these stunts. They have a 2024 TRD Off Road arriving with $1200 of installed options for $44,000. Yes, it is expensive for a midsized truck but at least they are not playing the mark up game.
Agree with you 100%. I have NEVER paid MSRP for a vehicle in my 61 yo life let alone pay a “market adjustment”. LOL, you have my word that I will not pay inflated over MSRP prices for ANY vehicle.
Toyota has lost their minds! paid 38K out the door for my 19 Sport long bed. Truck prices in general are out of control. I'm not buying new again at these prices ever again!
@@patrickjames3321It used to be a great trim, you could buy it for cheap then mod it yourself instead of wasting all the money on the sport or off road. Now it’s completely pointless cause it costs way too much
Bought a new 22' TRD Off Road 4x4 w/MT and equipped with extras in August, 2022. Paid $38,500 out the door. Appears the $$ Dollar has LOST more value than people realize.
I bought a '17 TRD Sport V6 Ext cab that was a lease return with 30k miles on the clock back in '19 and only paid 28k. As of 2024 I still get offered 30K if I ever want to sell.
I was going to buy myself a 2024 Tacoma this month for my retirement. Toyota has absolutely lost their minds with these prices and market adjustments. In fact all car dealers are asking way too much for new vehicles. 3/4 ton Chevy Trucks are priced in the $70,000 - $80,000 range and with a diesal engine they are almost $90,000. No wonder used car prices are so high. Good video thanks for getting right to the point.
Mid size long box trucks are Goldilocks. I own a '17 Canyon CCLB and it is awesome. That said, the long box option was only another $300 and the truck was 36.5K, which was a lot at the time. 53K isn't gonna happen for a Tacoma, and an entire generation (Gen Z) has effectively quit buying new cars. My 26 year old daughter is a perfect example, she drives an '07 Ford Escape which we keep running. I won't let her lease a newer car as that is a financial treadmill I don't want her getting on. Take a look at Autozone's stock (AZO). Not giving a stock tip here, but just look at their long term chart. It has relentlessly marched higher because people see the value in keeping older cars on the road. A new transmission on an older car is expensive but it no longer looks like a reason to take it off the road when ya look at the insane prices of new cars. Plus a lot of the older vehicles are simpler and easier to keep running.
I commented somewhere above about owning a 22 TRD Off Road. However, I use a 2004 Chevy Colorado with a trailer when I haul gravel, dirt, tree limbs. Still runs great with scheduled maintenance.
LOL. My 23 SR5 longbed in Silver has all the same stuff except the winter package which I don't need where I am at. Got the V6 4wd for 41 grand. I'll take the V6 over the turbo crap. I got it tuned with OTT and it has plenty of low end power now and smooth quick shifting. I had to drive 6 hours to get the truck but I didn't pay any markups. I remember when paying at MSRP was considered being ripped off now we got these crazy markups. TFL just had their brand new 24 tacoma lose 4wd on a mild course. 53k is more than my dad paid for a loaded Chevy 2500HD Crew Cab with 4wd and the 6.6 gas engine. That was a few years back when they still had the 6 speed autos.
Was looking at same year, off road version, insane price, bought used Corolla., better gas mileage, keeping my 2008 Tacoma, 220,000 miles, still running great.
Toyota jumped the inflation gun this time. They are trying to take advantage of the inflation boom but people aren’t ready to pay that kind of money yet. Need more time for them to get used to high prices.
We know most people are not paying cash for these over-priced vehicles so why are the banks approving vehicle loans with thousands of dollars of fluff putting borrowers upside down on their loans for many years to come?
Because Toyota Finance is flexible & they work with dealerships to steal your money.. Local banks will require more money down & probably a higher interest rate.... Win Win for all scumbags. Buyer Beware
@@revnation_auto wow that is mind blowing, there’s a sucker born everyday and it takes 1 gullible person to attract. These higher trims will look nice & attractive enough to get a bite.
I enjoyed the review, really down to earth commentary. Just like the housing bubble, and all the recessions the markets will adjust. With covid behind us the supplies are normalizing and this kind of price gouging is unacceptable. People are being forced to pay more money for rent, housing and the credit terms are getting longer to pay for high ticket items. Shop around for the best deals, join a credit union and don’t buy more than you can reasonably afford. Mass production is supposed to yield lower prices, but this is just insulting that concept.
Check the spare tire. They don't give you a real spare, instead a convenience tire with different thread than the other 4 tires and mounted on a temporary rim.
I have a 2018 Tacoma SR5 with some upgrades but not a lot. I paid brand new less than $33,000. I will never ever ever pay that kind of price for an SR5 let alone a Trd pro.
Even if I was in the market, there’s still no way I’d pay that! I’m really not a fan of these anyway, they still look extremely outdated to me both inside & out.
@@2H2521 Update it to what? Your options are physical buttons or a giant ipad screen. Personally I would rather have the "outdated" buttons. Having everything buried in menus is a fuckin hassle. To me its retarded to think that every vehicle needs some giant redo every few years.
I just bought a new car for a good deal. Good dealerships are out there. I already heard good things from strangers about them. It was the most painless car buying experience i ever had.
This is a great deal on a great truck. I won’t be buying it personally, but I fully support the dealership in adding even an additional $1,000,000 markup on each unit.
holy moly! im glad in 2021 i bought my new tacoma long bed 4 door trd OR 4x4 with almost ev ery option for 55K. seeing an sr5 for nearly the same price is insane!
I live & work in the area of this dealer, Hampton VA. The sad thing is this truck was only on the lot for a day or two before someone paid the markup & it was sold.
It's a totally new re engineered truck..This happens with any new model on its first year..No pics of the 4 cylinder turbo?? I have a 2020 off road that I like alot..I'd buy one of these in like 3 years..I've had 11 toyotas through the years
I'll stick with 1997 Toyota Tacoma with 248,000 miles on it and still running strong. The oil changes have been done religiously since new. The radiator failed at 200,000 miles ... the engine did not overheat. I had to put a replacement transmission in it two years ago and my mechanic found one that only had 60,000 miles on it. My original transmission could not be rebuilt ....it was scrap. I'll also keep my 2004 Toyota Tacoma SR5 X-cab that had 120,000 miles on it when I bought it 7 years ago for $9500. I've put just over 3000 miles since I got it. It's great not having vechicle debt and I plan keeping it that way!
Thanks for a great educational video on the cost of the new Tacoma SR5. I agree, a great truck but $56,000 for a basic truck (any brand) is Crazy pricing. Citizens unite and do not pay that crazy high price for your truck. Carry On Sir!
i special ordered my 22 ranger during the pandemic took 9months. base model xl, supercab, offroad package, trailer package, and a 110 outlet. if i could have gotten a manual and crank windows i would have. $34k at 5% interest. cheaper then the tacoma for the things i wants by $9k. without all the stuff i didn't want
That's insane I bought a 2023 Tacoma Trd Off-Road demo with 10,525 miles for $40,000 in 2024. They had a 2024 Trd Pro and Trd Off-Road. The Trd Pro was $54,000 and the Off-Road was 48,500.
When I bought my first new Toyota SR5 truck in 1982 I paid about $7,500. It was an extracab, and the cost was about 14 months of the minimum wage of $3.10/hr. The truck in this video is a double cab with a lot more technology at about 18 months of the average minimum of $15/hr. Based on the $15, the double cab, and all the tech... is it really a bad deal? It seems similar to what it would've cost 40 years ago.
I love my Tacoma and upgrade every 5 years because I like new, I have the 2020 Off Road right now and soon will be upgrading and it sucks, if these prices don't come down I will not be upgrading to another Tacoma it's time to look at other trucks.
I honestly prefer the Canyon AT4, Colorado Trailboss, and Frontier Pro-4X over the new one. 23 TRD OR may have a decent discount on them now if you’re looking at keeping with Toyota but it’s basically the same truck you have
53k for a 4cylinder barebones Tacoma with tires that look like they belong on a Corolla? 😂
GTFO!
I can see why there are more Colorados on the road
Right!
Unfortunately stupid ass people keep paying these freaking market price adjustments and markups so they keep doing it because they don't mind paying 5-10k extra so they can tell everyone they got the newest model.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrixit would be a nice $29,000 truck but not at the asking price.
@user-xh2yg4uv9q yes, 32 tops, but these prices for base model trucks are insane! Back in 2022 you could get a nramd new 1794 or Platinum Tundra for 53-54k out the door. Now, a base SR5 with cloth seats runs more than that!
Let it rot on the lots. Boycott ALL dealers for 90 days and I guarantee you, cheaper prices by day 100. But WE ALL have to do it.... takes ALL OF US. Be smart people.
I concur my friend
But being smart isn't what we do.
Too many dumb people out there...
Idk. Dodge and jeep haven't learned, it's been way more than 90 days for them. Saw a 2024 trx priced at 144k.
When the inventory is greater than the demand...price and arrogance of dealers will come down. Just explained that this morning to a salesman that wanted a $ 500 deposit to get in line. I would rather just wait and will. Even if I never get one.
Shun that dealer permanently. No excuse for dealer markups anymore.
Classic Toyota in Hampton Va
Let's start a boycott toyota revolution,
just remind them the pandemic is over that was 4 years ago. then walk
@@revnation_autotaking advantage of military idiots lol
Sadly, they are all marking up Tacoma's and the hybrids haven't even been released yet.
No way in hell , I’m not paying that kind of money for a midsize truck. Specially SR5 model
Everything is expensive.Thank your buddy Joe Biden
Out of their minds... let them sit on the lots
Deez lots.
I bought my assembled in America 2018 SR5 late in 2018 after the 2019 models came out. The dealership had about 20 of the 2018's sitting on the lot. Paid $26,000 for it. Right place, right time. Shop smart everyone, don't be impulsive.
Same here. Had an 18 taco TRD offroad bought new in early 18. out the door was upper 36k.
Sold it in 20 during Covid w/ 30k miles and got 34k for the truck during the truck shortage
Did the exact same with my Transit now same van is over 20k what I payed
Those days are long gone unfortunately.
I have an '18 TRD Offroad LB. I paid $33K. It has 24K miles on it. I'm thinking about a '24 trd offroad lb hybrid. Waiting to see pricing and mpg. I may keep my '18 forever if they try to gouge me.
I plan on keeping my 2018 until it rusts apart and dissolves into the ground. 🙂
5 thousand dollar dealer markup! What a joke do not buy any vehicle with a dealer markup. EVER!!!
$6590
but but LIFETIME engine coverage , Lifetime oil and filter changes, Lifetime Labor and parts , State inspections for life all for 5 k ?!
My local dealership did that too. The one 15 minutes down the road doesn't. Guess where I'm going.
If I were trading in a vehicle, my car's value just went up by $5K minimum!!!!
I grew up in a town with a Toyota dealer with huge mark ups and obnoxious sales people. It was a really unpleasant place. Anyway it turned me off to the brand for years. I eventually got over it when I lived in another place with a Toyota dealership that was the polar opposite, knowledgeable & respectful sales people and no B.S. with expensive add-ons. The manufacturers would be wise to monitor this. Look around, there are good Toyota dealerships out there, I wish they all were.
People don’t call them the stealership for nothing. They mark up the price is because they know 50 guys come in sniffing at it and one out of 50 will bite. They did their homework.
They actually call them mullets, especially if they throw down money the first day.
Good lord, $46k sticker for an average optioned mid size truck.
That’s what my fully loaded TRD Off Road long bed cost me in 2021. Insane.
Good Lord groceries good Lord gas good Lord diesel good Lord everything but yeah it's the Steeler ship or something
@@harrybarnes3539you must be a car salesman
That's wild, I got my 22 Tundra SR5 with premium for 50.
I hope they’re offering 30 year mortgages . LoL 🤦♀ good grief
Charlie Brown
You called them out for it and said it straight up without mincing words... Well done... I'm now a subscriber😊
2024 Mandatory Add On. Nothing pissed me off more than that.
Yeah it’s ridiculous, that is what Canada has always done since they’re not allowed to markup the price. We get both in the USA 🙄
Yeah I was like that’s pretty expensive at $47,000 and then another $7,000 of BS and market adjustment. You just have to laugh
@@revnation_autoCanadian dealers mark up the price too, they just have to show it in any advertisements for that particular vehicle as the "total advertised price". To get around it they'll have one truck that's not marked up and used for advertising but if you ever go in to buy that particular truck you can guarantee that "oh dang, someone juuuuuustt put down a deposit on that one but we've got a couple more we can show you."
You don't have to pay for any dealer add-on. Tell them to remove them from the truck
@@duckwacker8720They’ll tell you to remove yourself from the premises cause they’ve got another sucker lined up to buy it.
The banks are at fault too because the truck is not worth the extra 5K in mark ups. So if they give the loan that is instant negative equity right off the bat on top of all the other negitive equity from driving off the lot with a brand new truck.
You are totally spot on. It should be illegal for banks to put you under water on a new truck. And of course…if the bank doesn’t give you the loan…GMAC,Chrysler,Toyota,Ford..will finance it for you!
Its dumb people who buy them too
The banks don't really care about the collateral, when they write a loan they create money out of thin air. what they want is for you to continue paying on it so they can collect the interest on it. The last thing they want to do is repo the truck, that costs them more time and money and then they have to sell it. If something happens and you have trouble making your payments they will work with you on it. believe it or not they really don't want the vehicle.
sounds like the housing bubble in 2008. People working at mc donalds were approved for up to 5 houses. lol
These Toyota dealers and even Toyota themselves can go to hell. Even without the markup, 46k for an SR5 is absurd!
I paid $23K for a new Ram 1500 Tradesman in 2018. Used to drive it every day but with the price of new trucks it stays parked for whenever i truly need to use a truck.
I’d go get a frontier.
They do the samething at Nissan, Subaru, Honda....
Yes!! That's the answer!
Way better truck.
@@jmyers6175 not in my area they don't.....no bogus scam markup's like that at any local dealer now, they marked the 2023's down to get rid of them and don't even have any 2024's on the lot.
100% The Tacoma hype is ridiculous!!
I watched a guy blow up his 2024 TACO front wheel locks when attempting a 4x4 Trail in snow. The RUclips show reviews the trucks they buy on off road trails to show true functionality. I think I’ll stay with proven old school tech you find in Nissan Frontier.
Fast Lane Truck channel.....and it did indeed break.....lol
And I'll stay with "proven old school tech" you find in my Jeep Gladiator (Rubicon). ;-)
-- BR
The dirt road they were on wasn't even really off roaring either. Just a bad design by Toyota. I hear Nissan is offering discounts and incentives so you can buy well under MSRP.
I had a Nissan Frontier that broke down and left me stranded. I live in Wyoming and am often in the middle of nowhere. Never going near a Nissan shit box again.
@@drn13355 I had a "pre-Nissan" way back when (bought new): a 1973 Datsun 1200 Coupe. Was the best/most reliable car I've ever. It had maybe 700-750K (?) miles on it (odometer broke at 400K) by the time I had to part with it after 32 years (!) because I couldn't get parts for it anymore.
Then I had a 1985 Nissan 200SX LE...it was also very reliable (but got taken out in an accident with a 18-wheeler).
Had 2 Hondas -- a 2006 CRV and 2016 Pilot -- the CRV had several major (and expensive) issues the Pilot had none.
Had a 2014 Subaru Crosstrek XV...only 3 years though but no issues, just the lest comfortable seats ever, and it's heater didn't work well in single-digit or -0 temps we sometimes had in Colorado. But its AWD was amazing.
Now I have a "POS/Crap Stellantis Jeep" as some people say, but so far, it's been great.
So you never really know anymore what brand to go with. Car-buying seems to be a crap-shoot and you might have better odds picking a GOOD one at a casino in Las Vegas.
-- BR
A SR5 🤯53k,,,,, I payed 41,100 for my Colorado Trail Boss and got every option available ! I’m so glad I didn’t wait for this truck! After taxes 56k out the door, after finance about 70k I did Lyft with my Corolla and payed off my Colorado TB in 5 months, I only have 2700 miles on it ,,They make their money off of extended warranty’s and finance for 5,6,7 years!
Trail boss is a better looking truck in my honest opinion
Walk over to Nissan and pick up a new Frontier for 10K less - V6 with 310 HP and smile as you drive away with a fun midsized baby
Great truck!
That's exactly what I did!
Or a loaded Honda Ridgeline that has a wider bed and a much higher payload.
Yep. Me too. Got the long bed too with a naturally aspirated V8 for 28k.
Frontier gang!! ❤
Excellent commentary with this video. That additional toilet paper side stick, the sales manager stuck on, is typical thieves at work.
Haha…I’ve been calling it the toilet paper sticker too for a long time! Perfect!
and the front dif snaps during mild off-roading in icy conditions. (TFL )
I just watched the RUclips, just about 30 minutes ago. There was not anything crazy on the trail yet things broke down. Toyota now days, low quality material, high price tag on their products.
Tundra are breaking down left and right everyday. 2022-2023 year. 2024 hasn't been there yet, Maybe one or two.
Interesting how quickly they thriw away decades of good will built up in reputation for build quality. Just pissing it all away.
@@servenbolt6800 I took the 7 year warranty , bumper to bumper . I got it for an extra 1495... They first offered it at 3995 , then 2495 , then I took it at 1495, ...The 2023 Tacoma came with a three year bumper to bumper Warranty ( well mine did ) ..... did any get the extend 7 year warranty .... or did they purchase it , or was it free with your Truck ?
This is a very Accurate Statement; Instead of being true to the longstanding ideals of Quality and Fair Value from Japan, looks like the Toyota Top Dudes are now just like Criminal Americans. Very sad. @@runrundave
And all of the Toyota fanboys got butthurt when I pointed out that Andre’s Colorado handled what Toyota called “extreme conditions” just fine as it towed that new Tacoma out after it failed 😂 Toyota has been coasting on their previous reputation for quality for years, now.
I happened across your video. You said it correctly. The prices will not come down until we all stop buying this stuff. When they run out of Toyota fanboys, early adopters and those that have more money than common sense, perhaps reality will kick in.
This truck has become just another one of the herd. It will have loads of issues for a couple years just like the rest. Frontier is the safest bet at this point.
Prices are Inflation adjusted dollars ....prices have gone up that much ...because of Joe bidens " Inflation Reduction Act" ....It was a tranzverse , double reduction extenuation bam boozle 1.21 gigawatt tri superhetrodine inflation reduction plan....it worked , for them
Worth 25000. They are nuts!
Your living in year 2000 lol!
It's a 25k truck then you add in all the BS due to the way the demoRats have destroyed our energy sector ( coal, NG, Steel ) and then price jumps to 50k plus....
@@jonathanratliff4780he didn't say that should be the price he is saying what they are worth. the epa nazis force companies to make crap
@@utpharmboy2006Having an entire Best Buy's worth of electronic gadgets in today's cars and trucks doesn't help the bottom line much either lol .
@@5675492 hell no and i don't need any of it. ill even take manual roll up windows.
just boosted the value of my 20 year old toy... thanks...
I have a '17 TRD Sport V6 Ext cab. About every couple months I get someone at a gas station asking if I would sell it for 30k.
Thanks for showing the truck. There nuts!
You bet
They're*
@@duckwacker8720 Nope! There!
Just stumbled across this and I really like your brutal honesty!
I'm subscribing 🎉🎉
We have a Ford Dealership here in Oklahoma that has 2024 F150 pickups marked up as much as $20,000.00 above MSRP. It’s not just Toyota doing this.
For a four cylinder?
No V6 or V8, not buying!
Great video your totally right don’t pay it
My 1992 F-150 6 cylinder 2-wheel drive has 226,240 miles on it and I drive it all the time. When a part stops working I replace it myself if I can, otherwise I have a shop replace it. Nice truck -- I'm keeping it forever.
A man after my own heart. My 87 Nissan has 425,000 on it. Nice and slow with 100 hp. At least I can identify the parts.
Ford straight sixes are hard to kill.
@@jeanclaude7018 You're trusty 4-banger is almost half way to the million mile club!
@@RaysDad slowly getting there. I have some catchup to do.
Brian Murphy drove his 2007 Frontier a million miles and Nissan gave him a new one. It's under "million mile Frontier" on RUclips. He wore out the seat and had to replace it.
@@jeanclaude7018 I watched the video! When his odometer registered all nines it froze there, so now to keep track of mileage he uses the trip odometer.
@@RaysDad I wonder if even Nissan itself knew some of their rigs would go that far?
They needed another digit.
Many people on the web say Nissan is junk. I always send them to that video.
When I bought mine used in 1995 for $2500, it already had 204,000 miles. I thought I would use it a few years and upgrade. Now I've had it half my life. The old trucks have real value.
The Toyota dealership next to me isn’t pulling these stunts. They have a 2024 TRD Off Road arriving with $1200 of installed options for $44,000. Yes, it is expensive for a midsized truck but at least they are not playing the mark up game.
You should name your dealership.
I paid $40,000 for my 2023 Tacoma TRD offroad in December. Can't believe the prices for the 2024 models.
Yeah that’s what I paid for my old TRD OR as well. Ridiculous prices now
That's what I paid for TRDsport in Aug 23.. With a V6 😂
40k for drum brake 🤣
Narrowly missed the bullshit. 23 owners sitting pretty.
@@theeconomist100 Boo-hoo. You'll be on truck #3 when ours are still riding pretty.
I completely agree with you, no way would I pay the HUGE mark up, I do love the color.
Agree with you 100%. I have NEVER paid MSRP for a vehicle in my 61 yo life let alone pay a “market adjustment”. LOL, you have my word that I will not pay inflated over MSRP prices for ANY vehicle.
That is exactly the kind of dealer that only a fool would visit twice.
Your comments are spot on!
Toyota has lost their minds! paid 38K out the door for my 19 Sport long bed. Truck prices in general are out of control. I'm not buying new again at these prices ever again!
Even 38k for a SR5 is insane, maybe more like 32k it’s what it’s worth tbh, very shitty trim
@@patrickjames3321It used to be a great trim, you could buy it for cheap then mod it yourself instead of wasting all the money on the sport or off road. Now it’s completely pointless cause it costs way too much
Bought a new 22' TRD Off Road 4x4 w/MT and equipped with extras in August, 2022. Paid $38,500 out the door. Appears the $$ Dollar has LOST more value than people realize.
I bought a '17 TRD Sport V6 Ext cab that was a lease return with 30k miles on the clock back in '19 and only paid 28k. As of 2024 I still get offered 30K if I ever want to sell.
$5k market adjustment. This dealer still believes it’s 2021! 🤣
Yep, really dumb
The dealers created 2021.
6:12 Reminded me of those late night tv infomercials "but wait there's more"
Jokes aside, $46k is insane & $53k is super insane.
I was going to buy myself a 2024 Tacoma this month for my retirement. Toyota has absolutely lost their minds with these prices and market adjustments. In fact all car dealers are asking way too much for new vehicles. 3/4 ton Chevy Trucks are priced in the $70,000 - $80,000 range and with a diesal engine they are almost $90,000. No wonder used car prices are so high. Good video thanks for getting right to the point.
Mid size long box trucks are Goldilocks. I own a '17 Canyon CCLB and it is awesome. That said, the long box option was only another $300 and the truck was 36.5K, which was a lot at the time. 53K isn't gonna happen for a Tacoma, and an entire generation (Gen Z) has effectively quit buying new cars. My 26 year old daughter is a perfect example, she drives an '07 Ford Escape which we keep running. I won't let her lease a newer car as that is a financial treadmill I don't want her getting on.
Take a look at Autozone's stock (AZO). Not giving a stock tip here, but just look at their long term chart. It has relentlessly marched higher because people see the value in keeping older cars on the road. A new transmission on an older car is expensive but it no longer looks like a reason to take it off the road when ya look at the insane prices of new cars. Plus a lot of the older vehicles are simpler and easier to keep running.
I commented somewhere above about owning a 22 TRD Off Road. However, I use a 2004 Chevy Colorado with a trailer when I haul gravel, dirt, tree limbs. Still runs great with scheduled maintenance.
LOL. My 23 SR5 longbed in Silver has all the same stuff except the winter package which I don't need where I am at. Got the V6 4wd for 41 grand. I'll take the V6 over the turbo crap. I got it tuned with OTT and it has plenty of low end power now and smooth quick shifting. I had to drive 6 hours to get the truck but I didn't pay any markups. I remember when paying at MSRP was considered being ripped off now we got these crazy markups. TFL just had their brand new 24 tacoma lose 4wd on a mild course. 53k is more than my dad paid for a loaded Chevy 2500HD Crew Cab with 4wd and the 6.6 gas engine. That was a few years back when they still had the 6 speed autos.
I watched that blue tacoma just spin its tires, til they spun no more! 😂😂 they weren't lying, they actually broke it this time! 😂😂😂
TFL blew up the transfer case climbing up a hill!
Straight to the point no bs
46k was too much and then they add 5 k. Screw them!
$6590
Was looking at same year, off road version, insane price, bought used Corolla., better gas mileage, keeping my 2008 Tacoma, 220,000 miles, still running great.
Did that panel line up by the light,it looked off?
Looked off to me too. Get a lot of that post 2020 it seems
Doesn’t matter the year, matching seams effect's many vehicles.
But it stings at these prices though.
Sad part is someone will buy that truck Thanks for the video 👍
" TSRP=total suggested retail price, charge you more shit" love it .
I'll be sticking with my 21. It's problem free and many fewer failure points as the newer ones.
Toyota jumped the inflation gun this time. They are trying to take advantage of the inflation boom but people aren’t ready to pay that kind of money yet. Need more time for them to get used to high prices.
We know most people are not paying cash for these over-priced vehicles so why are the banks approving vehicle loans with thousands of dollars of fluff putting borrowers upside down on their loans for many years to come?
Because Toyota Finance is flexible & they work with dealerships to steal your money.. Local banks will require more money down & probably a higher interest rate.... Win Win for all scumbags. Buyer Beware
Exactly what happens
That is crazy. How much more when the Trd pros and trail hunters come out, that markup will be 2x more. Insane prices
I talked to a Toyota GM today and they are think TRD Pro with be mid 60’s. Trail hunter like 70+
@@revnation_auto wow that is mind blowing, there’s a sucker born everyday and it takes 1 gullible person to attract. These higher trims will look nice & attractive enough to get a bite.
They better fix that front end issue or there’s going to be a lot of red faced pro and trail hunter owners!
"Finders fee? It was on the lot!"
'Yeah, that's right'
The best thing Toyota influencers could do is feature vehicles on lots of bottom feeder dealers.
I enjoyed the review, really down to earth commentary.
Just like the housing bubble, and all the recessions the markets will adjust.
With covid behind us the supplies are normalizing and this kind of price gouging is unacceptable.
People are being forced to pay more money for rent, housing and the credit terms are getting longer to pay for high ticket items.
Shop around for the best deals, join a credit union and don’t buy more than you can reasonably afford.
Mass production is supposed to yield lower prices, but this is just insulting that concept.
Check the spare tire. They don't give you a real spare, instead a convenience tire with different thread than the other 4 tires and mounted on a temporary rim.
Wow, that’s pathetic
I have a 2018 Tacoma SR5 with some upgrades but not a lot. I paid brand new less than $33,000. I will never ever ever pay that kind of price for an SR5 let alone a Trd pro.
Somebody will pay that but it won't be me
Toyota likes that truck more than I do. Next!
My dealer is doing the same except the vig is $3300. I won’t do it.
I like how the top bolt on the rear springs is already surface rusted on a brand new truck
Crazy!!! Bought my TRD Prerunner V6, 4.0 brand new=$33K out the door.
Remember, dealers need to sale more urgently than we need to buy.
not worth the sticker
I bought my 23 Taco limited last year for a couple thousand off MSRP and couldn’t be happier. Glad I didn’t wait.
A fool and his money are soon parted..
Hopefully not but you’re probably right
Even if I was in the market, there’s still no way I’d pay that! I’m really not a fan of these anyway, they still look extremely outdated to me both inside & out.
I agree, looks like a cartoon vehicle!
What looks outdated about it? This is actually the first tacoma they made huge changes to.
@@270eman Still looks insanely similar, they need to update it more. The design, electronics, etc are all extremely outdated. It’s not 2015 anymore.
@@2H2521 Update it to what? Your options are physical buttons or a giant ipad screen. Personally I would rather have the "outdated" buttons. Having everything buried in menus is a fuckin hassle. To me its retarded to think that every vehicle needs some giant redo every few years.
Beautiful truck, just needs a drivetrain swap.
I just bought a new car for a good deal. Good dealerships are out there. I already heard good things from strangers about them. It was the most painless car buying experience i ever had.
$60k for an sr5 😂😂😂
Yep, I forgot to mention, they have a $999 doc fee too
This is a great deal on a great truck. I won’t be buying it personally, but I fully support the dealership in adding even an additional $1,000,000 markup on each unit.
Not in this lifetime nor the next! 😮
Lol! No way in hell I'd EVER pay a dealer markup for ANY car or truck. Period.
They're doing drugs!
I’m glad I got my Tacoma in 2019 😂
24 SR5 are listed for $52k here 💀
I’m sure, soo dumb
holy moly! im glad in 2021 i bought my new tacoma long bed 4 door trd OR 4x4 with almost ev ery option for 55K. seeing an sr5 for nearly the same price is insane!
Did you say you paid $35k? Or did you say $55k? If it’s the latter, YIKES!
I live & work in the area of this dealer, Hampton VA. The sad thing is this truck was only on the lot for a day or two before someone paid the markup & it was sold.
Makes me appreciate my mint 2010 even more
It's a totally new re engineered truck..This happens with any new model on its first year..No pics of the 4 cylinder turbo??
I have a 2020 off road that I like alot..I'd buy one of these in like 3 years..I've had 11 toyotas through the years
Once I saw that the back seat was just as tight as the outgoing model, I wrote this truck off.
I'll stick with 1997 Toyota Tacoma with 248,000 miles on it and still running strong. The oil changes have been done religiously since new. The radiator failed at 200,000 miles ... the engine did not overheat. I had to put a replacement transmission in it two years ago and my mechanic found one that only had 60,000 miles on it. My original transmission could not be rebuilt ....it was scrap. I'll also keep my 2004 Toyota Tacoma SR5 X-cab that had 120,000 miles on it when I bought it 7 years ago for $9500. I've put just over 3000 miles since I got it. It's great not having vechicle debt and I plan keeping it that way!
Was just at the Toyota Dealer and was told they had no new trucks listed under 40k walked out and got a brand new Colorado for 30k
I’d be perfectly fine with the price if they would include an optional identical truck.
Looks like the one TFL has. The front diff. failed 1st time out on the trail.
And the Chevy made it no problem and it was the recovery vehicle.
Can’t get better advertising than that!
Here's my thoughts. They do it because Idiots pay it!! I will never buy another New TOYOTA! HELL NO!!!!
I'm not sure these will sell that well. The initial rush out the door will go to deep pockets. Then - they may get stuck with them.
Still driving my 2003 Prerunner that I paid 15k for new! I'll stick with this!!!
Cool story bro
Nope. Toyota did a better job with the design of the new Tacoma compared to the Tundra, but I'm not paying these prices for a new truck.
I bought a TRD Pro Taco 5 years ago with 8 miles for that price.
Thanks for a great educational video on the cost of the new Tacoma SR5. I agree, a great truck but $56,000 for a basic truck (any brand) is Crazy pricing. Citizens unite and do not pay that crazy high price for your truck. Carry On Sir!
Wish we could have looked in the bed for cargo lights, storage boxes and A/C power.
i special ordered my 22 ranger during the pandemic took 9months. base model xl, supercab, offroad package, trailer package, and a 110 outlet. if i could have gotten a manual and crank windows i would have. $34k at 5% interest. cheaper then the tacoma for the things i wants by $9k. without all the stuff i didn't want
That's insane I bought a 2023 Tacoma Trd Off-Road demo with 10,525 miles for $40,000 in 2024. They had a 2024 Trd Pro and Trd Off-Road. The Trd Pro was $54,000 and the Off-Road was 48,500.
When I bought my first new Toyota SR5 truck in 1982 I paid about $7,500. It was an extracab, and the cost was about 14 months of the minimum wage of $3.10/hr. The truck in this video is a double cab with a lot more technology at about 18 months of the average minimum of $15/hr. Based on the $15, the double cab, and all the tech... is it really a bad deal? It seems similar to what it would've cost 40 years ago.
I love my Tacoma and upgrade every 5 years because I like new, I have the 2020 Off Road right now and soon will be upgrading and it sucks, if these prices don't come down I will not be upgrading to another Tacoma it's time to look at other trucks.
I honestly prefer the Canyon AT4, Colorado Trailboss, and Frontier Pro-4X over the new one. 23 TRD OR may have a decent discount on them now if you’re looking at keeping with Toyota but it’s basically the same truck you have
Tailgate hands free button is only on the driver side. Just like the Tundra.
The two dealerships in Albuquerque don’t have a market adjustments. Thankfully
Massachusetts seems to have decent leases offers now. 2k down 540 a month for off road. Think I'm going to go for it
Much cheaper in Canada. Base SR5 in Canada is 50,000$CAD + tax. With the crazy exchange rate, that's only 36562.27$US + tax
Great looking truck inside and out. Just wait a year and let teething issues get resolved and prices come down 🤣
it is absolutly nuts for sure