You could buy the 5075e and a 3025e for the same price as the 4075r, thats crazy. Great comparison, thank. Goodworks tractor would have said they were the same because theyre both 75hp.
And have a more capable tractor, it baffles me that a 75 HP tractor has a catagory 1 three point hookup. And actually goodworks just did a quick video on the 4075 and said it's kind of pointless. I can't think of a situation where the 4075 is needed that the 4066 couldn't do the same thing. Just an excuse for deer to charge more $$$
Thank you Christy for constantly eating dirt to bring these videos to us. Your drone skills, the audio, the excellent camera work and editing, all come together to make this the best tractor channel on RUclips. Thank you, your hard work does not go unnoticed. Also, thanks for the comparison. My biggest question is which works best with a backhoe?
Along with eating dirt, she eats snow, wind, cold, bugs, chaff, airborne plant clippings, and heat. She needs a portable climate controlled video tent or shed, complete with an espresso machine, beverage dispenser, dorm fridge (stocked) and a snack table (stocked as well).
I just got a quote on a loaded 4075R to replace our 10 year old 5083e. Our 5 series is just too big to do much more than mow a couple spots on our complex. The 4 series, with a smaller flex wing grooming mower and ehydro, should allow us to mow more, as well as use it for more tasks around the complex. We have plans to use it for snow removal as well which we never even though about with the 5 series. Thank you for all your videos on the 4 series tractors. They have been very informative and helpful.
Tim, Great video and very interesting. Your 5075e is a 12F/12R Power Reverser transmission. Why do you say there is no "shift on the go". As explained in the operator's manual, you can't shift between the 3 ranges (ABC) on the go, but you can readily shift between the 4 gears in each range while moving. I have a 6120e with 24F/12R Power Reverser transmission and it is very smooth shifting gears within a range while on the go.
Ok, yes, they are synchronized, which is great, but you can’t shift under load without clutching like with a powershift transmission. I probably should have gone into a bit more detail on this.
Hi Tim! I’ve been watching your videos for about a year now and I just signed the paper work for an OOS 5075e. It’s going to be too big for what I actually need for now, but I’d rather have more tractor than I need then regret not getting enough. I’m glad JD went with bigger front tires for the new 23 model.
I'd recommend doing a transmission calibration on the 5075E. I did that to my John Deere 6430 that had a crazy jumpy clutch and it fixed it. It's as smooth as silk now.
Tim, I do “blame” you for my 5075E. As I adjust to it over the past couple of years from the 3039R or 1025R, I continues to grow on me. I like the ride, the power and the comfort. I don’t even have an air ride seat for my backside. One of the best non-obvious things are the two front screens for the coolers. So easy to pop the hood, tap the debris off the screens and get back to work. The screen or lack thereof on the 3 series is a pain. Anyway, keep doing what you are doing. I look forward to your videos ps: you can shift on the go. You just can’t change ranges (A, B or C)
I believe you can shift through the gears by clutching on the fly in the 5e. Not the range, but 1-4 within the range. They are synchronized, just push in the clutch and shift to fine tune your speed.
Great video! This was what I was wanting to hear between the 2 models. The 4044m we currently have is great for our 10 acre farm but we do custom square and round baling on about 150 acres so we have a 75hp New Holland as well to help with that. Wanting something with a cab now so that the summer heat isn't as exhausting.
I have a 4075R with only 40 hours so far, and it lunges or surges a bit too, also just like you described in your comparison! It might just be a common problem with the 4075R. It’s a little annoying and seems like a defect. I am going to bring it up with my dealer when I come in for service.
Great comparison Tim. Wish I would have had data like this before I bought my JD4066M. Don't get me wrong, I like my 4066 but I sure could benefit from a heavier machine with stronger loader and a higher lift height. However I have grown accustom to my 4066 and learned to work to it's limits. Hyrostat trans is great and it is a very reliable machine.
Good comparison! I would go with the 5 series. A gear tractor and the chassis size fits my applications. A couple bucks left in my pocket is a plus also.
Great informative video and thank you guys for sharing! I own a 2022 5090E (which I know is larger than what you compared today) and I love it. Ironically, I had a 4066 (similar to the 4075R you tested) and I really loved the hydrostatic transmission; however the cab was too small and I just needed a little more power. A few months after I traded up to my 5090E my JD dealer got in a 5125R and I LOVED that tractor; however it was a little out of my price range but certainly an awesome machine. I have added some upgrades to my 5090E that I assume you could probably add to a 5075E. Those upgrades include a door kit (with steps) and an instructor or “buddy seat”. I’ve got everything I really need and just love doing field work with my 5090E. In the future I would be interested in a video comparing an E series machine to an M series. Thanks again for the great video.
I have that same 5075E that you have Tim. There is a trick to the clutch that took me a bit to figure out. Start out in B4 or C1 at idle and the friction point of the clutch is much easier to control. I use B4 most of the time for loader work and it takes some getting use to but I got it down pretty good now. The MSL loader on this machine is one of the biggest plus's I'd say, it's a beast of a loader. I came from a 4520 and wanted a cab and more HP and I don't regret it. The A/C is amazing! lol
Great video as always. Clearly the 4075R is designed for us in the north working as snow contractors. Nobody wants a gear driven transmission when blowing or plowing snow and going forward and reverse for hours in customer's driveways.
Just for clarification, JD dropped the 5R series around a year or two-ish ago. The 5M series picked up some of the options that were previously 5R only territory. The "Powr-8" transmission with creeper option (on the fly power shifting and super slow creeper gears) would give back a lot of the E-Hydro's ease of use functionality, albeit with the requirement of using the power reversing clutch and/or the foot clutch, both of which a heavy duty wet clutches that can take a lot of abuse. Yes, this will be an expensive tractor, especially with a 540R MSL loader, but what a rig!
As they say, “different strokes for different folks.” Very interesting and objective comparison, Tim. Although I appreciate the benefits of the 5 series, for me and my uses, my 4R cab tractor with hydro trans is sooooo handy and the only way for me to go. Your comparison confirmed my preference. Thanks for the info. Blessings.
Nice information on your video, just one thing the price on a 5075e was that when trump was in office. I bought a 2022 5075e with nsl loader and 4x4 with cab and it ran 67000.
I reckon the 4000 series is meant for yard work and the 5000 series is meant for field work. In the grand scheme of things. Definitely purchase the one that will best suit the needs at hand.
Thank you for your review/comparison Tim. I've been looking at the 5e for a few years but was conflicted when the 4075r came out. Just purchased a my23 5075e today and could not have felt more confident with my purchase after your review videos of each tractor.
Have you never used a 'power shift' transmission? 'Shift on the go' means change gears under load on the fly, with no clutch. Yes, of course the 1-4 gears are synchronized...but you cannot shift under load without clutch. ...and the clutch is sensitive in all ranges. frustrating.
Hello, I have had 2 4066R cab tractors, Then I bought a 5075 cab tractor and once I got the 5075 and still having the 4066R I never really wanted to drive that 4066R, the 5075 was so easy to operate and comfortable and it had incredible torque you could feel the difference in the stability of its size and it wasn’t really a big tractor it was actually the perfect size, when my season starts I work or could work seven days a week about 14 hours a day mowing grass/weeds that are up to 12 feet tall large and small acreage and the 5075 worked wonders and it was extremely comfortable, the 4066r is a great little tractor for what it is and I feel for doing dirt work especially in tight areas it’s the perfect little tractor but since purchasing the 5075 I realize now the differences and to me they are huge and now I’ve jumped up to a 5090 E Cab tractor and that’s even better in a perfect world I would feel owning a big tractor in a small tractor is the perfect set up, both tractors are incredible. I do feel the five series is a better choice especially for the money now.
Okay, so if they made a 5075e with a hydro and some R14 tires...... (yes, I know neither of those are available, but if they did......) For my uses, I wouldn't want anything other than the hydro. Good video, thanks for taking the time to make it. Have a good one!!👍
I really like the way you explain, compare, review, and edit your videos! I wish you would weren't stuck on John Deere and would make the same type of content with Kubota as well. If you would do that with and unbias opinion, I think that would help make a lot of decisions for some folks who are trying to decide on the best tractor for their situation. It seems as reviewers only like John Deere or Kubota, so getting a non bias opinion is nearly impossible.
This is very difficult. The Kubotas I have reviewed in depth simply do not measure up. I don’t mean to be biased, but the ones I have tested do not compete well. BX and LX. I like the looks of the Grand L. Would like to do a more in depth review/comparison on that machine. Would love to find a Kubota I could genuinely praise. So far, the Kubota’s I have reviewed make me appear even more biased. Honestly, I am open minded. I cannot say that I am enamored with the attitude of John Deere corp. Unfortunately, from what I have seen, they are far ahead of the competition. One other point. If you watch closely in this episode, I do not avoid the downsides to these machines. I bluntly state what I see as areas where they lack. So, hopefully you see from that approach that I am not blinded by the green paint.
Love to see 5e vs 5m if you ever get the chance, love the weight breakdown as I’m trying to size a tractor for a trailer and a trailer for a tractor lol
I have always been told that it is best to run a disk at 6MPH. This is so that the soil is turned over. It is hard to see with the dry soil being so loose and the dust but I would like a closeup of the surface of an area that had some weed growth after one pass of the disk.
Cool comparison, though I likely won’t ever be in the market for either. Pricing v. features in different series’s is very interesting. An example to the extreme: People might call me crazy for buying a b2650 w/cab for $30k a few years ago when you could easily get a cabless 3 series for less. Cab was that important to me! Keep up the good work!
For me the E-hydro transmission is a must. My main need is PTO hp and variable ground speeds. My choice is between the 4066R and 4075R. For some planned jobs I would need a second stationary tractor running the PTO. An older farm tractor like a John Deere 3020 might fill this role and do any heavy ground work. Ventrac and a used Toro 580D to handle most of the mowing. Farmall Cub Low-Boy just for fun! I have enjoyed your presentation of the 4075R! I also enjoyed the presentation of the Solectrac tractor. I hope that they rethink the PTO and it looks like maybe they did! The e25H says "independent PTO" Clearly this tractor will not replace my diesel tractor choices, but an independent PTO version may have niche application and get it's power from the solar system. My real problem is that I like all kinds of equipment, large and small, whether I need it or not!
I started watching your channel you were focusing on the 1025r and it's capability. This is one of the reasons I started looking at compact tractors it fit my need and my price point, but when I went to buy My John Deere all I could find in my area was the 3E series. So to the point, I think that the 3E tractor is over look and is a tractor that could benefit from up grades you have shown for the 1025 . the videos you have release recently are great to watch but are options that are to costly for most people and most small land owners dont need tractors that large. I do really enjoy your channel, but it has gone pass my needs and think for others to. I mess how your content started out
Fair enough. We made it clear in our first 4075R review video that we are looking at this because it is ‘the new thing’ this year. There are no changes to any other machines in the compact tractor line up. We will continue to show the compact tractors. Personally, I am not excited about the 3e because it is less functional than the 2R. I know a lot of folks think they are getting a ‘3 series’ so they are excited. Unfortunately, the 3e is mis-classified. Should be a ‘2M’/‘2E’ or similar. If one wants upgrades to the 3E, they should look at the 2R. Most 3E buyers are more concerned about price than upgrades. In other words, you watched our videos, then, didn’t follow our advice, and now are upset that we don’t feature your exact machine. Frustrating, for sure!
Was wondering if you could provide an overall height of the 4075. I have a 5075e and doesn’t quite fit in the garage bay I’d like to store it in. Thinking of switching to the 4075. Love the videos.
My work has 3 5115m's and a 5083E, the 5083E and one of the 5115m's have jumpy clutches the other 2 5115m's clutch's are much better so I'm not sure if it an adjustment issue. I have a Hydrostatic tractor at home that is the same size as a 4 series John Deere, I still find myself missing a gear drive and wish I had gone up to the bigger tractor. The only things I like better on the little tractor is turning radius and hooking up to 3 point implements is a lot easier with a hydro tractor.
Tim I think the comparison between the 5075e in the 5075m is quite a bold jump. Don't get me wrong the tractor is beefier and more feature-rich. But practically double the price optioned all the way out.
Hey Tim, enjoyed the video, I have a 2019 5065e with the power reverser, cab tractor and I have no problem with the clutch being Jerky, very smooth, enjoy your channel
I have to think a person I know from hs may want one of these 4075R tractors (unless he's got one on order) for his farming operation. I can see him never wanting to leave that air conditioned cab in the summer while getting corn picked.
Good comparison Tim!! On my 3039R when I first got it my forward pedal was doing that lunging thing, very frustrating when trying to swap out FEL attachments. It ended up being something adjustment in the ECU that the tech had to make, though Deere made them start with a new potentiometer as the first part of the warranty process. That made it work flawlessly, I did a video on this because it dawned on me that there are perhaps many people out there who have just accepted this as normal. Now, you and I both know the answer to this I'm sure, but I would love to see you put that set of disc harrows behind your 46R, JD claims to have at least two sets of pull type disc harrows that only require 35 draw bar HP, I disagree. My FIL has a set of old JD flex discs that pull very easy, he thought they were 10' and wanted to see if my 39R would pull them, but when I got out to the weeds and measured they are 12', so I told him I'll pass on that. Lol
My guess at the lunging at slow speed is worn hydrostatic pistons coming out of play and a good one coming in thus giving more pressure to turn the shaft. I could be completely wrong. We will not know until you take your hydrostatic completely apart and put it back together again with zero extra parts. Take pictures as you work so you know where all the parts go. Good luck.
Very interesting comparison video with good opinions. As for me I have older equipment , one hydro compact for loader work and old gear drive garden tractor for any garden work.
I wish that I could understand what you are referring to when you say jumpy clutch. We own 3 of them in different configuration and I operate one of those myself daily and don't see it in ours. However you didn't talk about the PTO horse power , the 5075e We found has a bit more than the 4075r due to the HST transmission. My next question is , when you did the turning radius test , where you in 4 wheel drive or 2 wheel drive? And check under your hood , I think you'll find a dpf filter because ours regularly regen. Great video and give Christy some seat time In that 5075e with the woods finish mower , it might grow on her 😀
@TractorTimewithTim been at our shop for several weeks for us to look at to see if we can use it in any of our applicable work. Overall in my opinion the verdict is still out on it but nice machine.
Hi Tim, I have a 5055e and it has a jerky clutch in it. It's so bad it's just like an on off switch. I thought it was just I had a bad one. Now I'm thinking their all like it😢
I have felt that same lunge can an older 4210, a quite new 4066r and my own 4520. Never felt it in my 4610.. I have thousands of hours on those 2 machines and the 4520 and the 4066r having that lunge I thought would just be a quirk in their transmissions but I've felt it recently in a friends 4210. He says it's been like that since new. It's actually very inconsistent in my 4520 and I remember dirt perfect talking about the same thing in his 4066r on your channel. It's like the pedals have a mind of their own. Some time barely touching them gives you a crawl and sometimes it thinks you wanted to move a foot not an inch.
Maybe. Remember, it is quite 'dressed up'. Most every option available, and several 'features' that were not even available as options when we purchased.
For field work like running a disc, mowing large acreage or plowing go with the 5 series. For plowing snow, tight spaces when mowing or using the loader in small areas go with the 4 series. The 4r series is meant for the guy who has a small, less than 50 acres, hobby farm. The 5e series is for commercial use on real farms by employees. The 4075 seems a bit superfluous.
I think the comparison would be similar between Kubota Grand L 6060 and their entry-level utility series of Kubota. The point is there are trade-offs regardless of brands on the big deluxe compact tractor and entry-level utility. JD and Kubota are the brands that I'm really familiar with. I would be curious on other brands.
Hi Tim enjoy your videos. Wanted your opinion. I’m looking at a 5065e between 400-500 hours. I know you have a 5075 would you buy that tractor again? Appreciate your thoughts. Thanks
@@TractorTimewithTim I shift all the time while mowing, but your correct heavy ground engagement would not work. I use a 5075E at work, and when it came time to buy my tractor, I would have gotten a 5E series cheaper than the 4R. The 4052R won because of the size and weight. All loaded and with kit, the 4052R would fit on my existing 22' 14k trailer.
The Grand L cab beats the 4R cab all day long, corner windows, bigger, better positioning of the loader and remote levers, even turn single, lights, horn where they should be like a car instead of on the dash like the 4r, gas shocks on the door to keep it from flying open. In that size in terms of cabs maybe the only thing to compete against it would be a Massey
I have been watching these comparison videos closely, trying to decide which way to go. Lookin for a buddy for my 2038R to do my hay cutting and loader work with round bales in the field. Tim in your opinion what do you think? Fyi I run a Kuhn gmd500 3pt 7' disc mower
Since you have the 2R, the 5075e would probably be the best complement. If you had only one tractor…the 4075r might be able to handle all tasks, but 2R and 5e would make a better pair.
Great Video who was more dusty by the end the tractors or poor Christy I would love to see the 5 series do some hay work I have always though it would be the perfect hay farm tractor
Perhaps you should evaluate the differences in the depth of cut of the old disks Vs new disks. I suspect the older disks were not as heavy, and did not cut as well as the new disk.
Thank you for the comparison since if it goes the way I want in a couple of months I will be looking for a tractor. Do you mow with a 3 series tractor?
@TractorTimewithTim my biggest question is do I buy a 1025r tractor plus a bigger one for an acreage as I will have to move snow in the winter. Plus I want a garden to grow sweetcorn and other things
My neighbor has a couple of 5075E open station tractors. They've been fairly reliable, but the layout of the operator station is horrible. I don't know who Deere is making these tractors for, but it's not men over 6' tall I can assure you. I can barely move my right leg around because of the location of joysticks and levers, the hump in the center is as wide as the ocean, and in general the controls are terribly misplaced. After sitting in the operator station I've decided there is no way I'd ever buy a Deere utility tractor for myself.
You can definitely shift between gears in the 5E on the go. You just can’t shift ranges and you can’t do that on the 4r so it’s still somewhat comparable.
Also you might want to talk to Deere about the clutch. Mine can be touchy especially at high rpm’s but I can definitely inch it around hooking up to things.
@@TractorTimewithTim but you’re not tied to one speed. I switch between gears all the time. I guess I’m just so used to using a clutch it doesn’t ever bother me. Just feel like the way you explained that wasn’t entirely fair.
Is the 5075e not a synchronized transmission? You said you can't shift on the go but with a pto powered implement like a Bush hog you should be able to shift gears on the go unless the transmission isn't synchronized or you don't have live pto. I actually prefer a gear drive transmission for a Bush hog but that's coming from someone who drove gear drives from the time he had to slide down of the seat to push the clutch. One thing we do on the farm for someone who isn't familiar with shifting is we just get them to use the hydraulic shuttle. It works great for picking up big bails in the field. You just put it in a low gear and let them putter around 😆
Excellent video Tim. You probably already knew I would love to see a 5M on your channel. LOL You will need to give up, compromise or modify that 3 cylinder 75hp rule you talked about, and move up to the 5090M if you want to get the command quad transmission. For me once I really dove into the 5R and learned what it was, and all about its features and options, that was it. I had have one, now 2, The 5R simply has nearly all the stuff everyone talks about wanting on 4R or 5 series machines. The auto clutch, command quad auto or command quad manual are so night and day nicer then the 5Ms I had with the 16/16 or 32/16 I had in the other one. The electronic loader control joystick is so smooth, it is really amazing. I am thinking for Christy who does not seem to want to mess with a clutch, that the Command quads auto clutch feature is the way to go, you can drive them entirely without ever touching the clutch. I do still clutch my 5Rs more out of habit then really needing to clutch. LOL The benefit of backing up to hookup implements is game changing. I can turn my seat sideways put it in A1 with a touch of button, then back up using only the brake pedal with my left foot or right foot, not having to do a contortionist act to work the clutch, and the brakes all while turned backwards to watch my hitch. LOL . That command quad transmissions is such a game changer. In some ways maybe an e-hydro is still better in its simplicity and ease of use in certain situations.
@@TractorTimewithTim command quad is a 16/16, command 8 is 32/16. Both have auto clutch, and can toggle to shift through All gears access multiple ranges. Command 8 has aside from twice the gears, it has full auto mode where you can tell it what speed you want to go and it does the rest to take you to that speed and hold it there.. There is two version of Command quad, manual and auto, manual version you toggle through gears, no auto mode available. Command quad auto works like command 8 where it has a auto mode but only 16 gears rather then 32 like command 8.
The best parts about all 3 command versions, is auto clutch, power shifting through several ranges, no more reaching down to the floor to change ranges, no more clutching to change gears or anything if you don’t want to clutch just use the brake.
I guess you have a different definition of "on the fly". I mean I don't have to come to a stop to shift gears within a range (A,B,or C) Yes if you are pulling a plow you would stop as soon as you press on the clutch but I do a lot of brush hogging with it and I can shift up or down as needed without stopping
Big difference between the two... 5075 is a utility, and the 4075 is a compact.. 😮. What is the difference in the wheel base on them.. I like them both..... 😅😅😅😊. 🍔🍔🍔🍔
I prefer a gear transmission over a hydrostatic. If the 4075 came in a gear shuttle, I would consider that machine. With the only option being hydrostatic, I would not make the purchase. Plus I'm a bit one sided to Kubota now.
Sorry bigger displacement, gear tranny, and cheaper yup 5075 for me if I could afford it. Just bought a 2003 5105 with 1200 hrs on it for 6k. Needed a few things but she was American made and cheaper than new.
I'm wondering what your thoughts are regarding down the road wear and tear maintenance costs between a geared tractor (clutch replacement for example) vs hydro which involves a lot of pumps, hydro motors, hard lines, soft lines electronic controls to operate the features. My guess as to why Deere got rid of the 5R series (for the moment anyway) is because there was so much overlap with their small 6 series units which they want you to buy instead along with my premonition of them coming out with a 5R hydro unit geared towards being a dedicated farm loader tractor for hay handling and filling feeder trucks. Just my guess. It would be awesome and very expensive.
@@noelstractors-firewood57Great question! I majored in mechanical engineering so I can talk about this all day but essentially Propane contains higher octane than regular gas. You can also get hi compression pistons for gas and diesel engines that can help inch out a few more HP, it’s pretty debated in the 2 cylinder community, most say it makes the tractors feel a lot more powerful!
@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks for taking the time to respond Tim! I absolutely love your channel. In challenging times like this it’s very beneficial to absorb positive content from legitimately good, intelligent and objective people with good morals and values. You really provide a lot of help for those of us trying to make big financial decisions as to what to buy, when to buy and most importantly, if to even buy at all…. God bless you and your wonderful family. Aside from the cool tractors, you have the greatest gift a man could ask for. Hoping to meet you in person somewhere along the way! 🤙🚜
Thank you, you’re words are very encouraging. We will be at the National Farm Machinery Show Feb 14 - 17 in Louisville , KY. Would love to see you there. Not sure if that would work for you.
Tim is such of a hydrostatic transmission compact riding mower fanboy. If he could use his little 1025R to redress a 5 mile gravel driveway he would. Listen folks, anything compact is a riding mower with a bucket. If you live in a gated community or some surburban development with nice lawns and need to carry some mulch to your trees or carry topsoil into your little 10x20 green house, or till up little patches for rose gardens and tomatoes and keep the lawn looking nice, or brush cut a couple acres a year, by all means, by a JD 1-4 series with hydrostatic transmission that everyone can have fun on. 1 series for 1 acre. 2 series for 2 acres, 3 series for 3 acres, and 4 series for 4-10 acres of light work. But if you have an actual homestead that needs land development, land cultivation, clearing trees and brush, building and maintaining roads, laying pipes and cables, lifting lifting anything with the forks or bucket over 1,000 lbs, and just all around farming, livestock, building, and development, get a JD 5xxxE utility tractor and stop maxing out those riding mowers with buckets, I mean compact "tractors". Get a ranch utility tractor like a 5xxxE. If you are a straight up farmer and grow food on multiple acres, forget about the 5xxxE. You need a 5xxxM or more.
@@TractorTimewithTim Look, I'm just kicking you in the knee a bit all in good fun. We are allowed to flame popular RUclipsrs we support. And for the record, your videos are awesome and you've taught me tons from years ago before I really used real tractors and other heavy equipment around the homestead. Now that I have hands on experience working the 2032R hard for two years, a Komatsu PC 120-6 hard, Cat 304-310s hard, and other equipment on the homestead, I can say that for my needs the 2032R simply doesn't cut it and if I had to do it all over again I'd go with a 5xxxEish equivelent for $60kish and get 3x the tractor for twice the price and not put myself in dangerous situations where I am maxing out the little riding mower with a bucket. I guess I expect a lot more from a tractor since I started with 10-15 ton excavators so I push them harder than most. I need to lift 2,000 lbs on a regular basis and pull through soil. 5xxxxE all the way
Well, the 203xR is indeed a bit weak. You would likely be quite surprised with a 3039r or 3046r. MUCH more powerful hydrostatic transmission. The 2032r just sits and whines where the 3R will pull (or push) right through!
@@TractorTimewithTim Exactly. The 2x really struggles. To be honest I never tested a 3x. I should test the 3x and 4x for my use cases. But I skipped that and went straight to the 5075E. The gear system takes getting used to but so far it fits the bill. A bit large. But we have plenty of space and live in the country. So getting into typical back yards is not a concern
You could buy the 5075e and a 3025e for the same price as the 4075r, thats crazy. Great comparison, thank. Goodworks tractor would have said they were the same because theyre both 75hp.
And have a more capable tractor, it baffles me that a 75 HP tractor has a catagory 1 three point hookup. And actually goodworks just did a quick video on the 4075 and said it's kind of pointless. I can't think of a situation where the 4075 is needed that the 4066 couldn't do the same thing. Just an excuse for deer to charge more $$$
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The 5 series is a much beefier tractor.
Thank you Christy for constantly eating dirt to bring these videos to us. Your drone skills, the audio, the excellent camera work and editing, all come together to make this the best tractor channel on RUclips. Thank you, your hard work does not go unnoticed. Also, thanks for the comparison. My biggest question is which works best with a backhoe?
Thank you very much. Your comment made my day! Especially as I sit here editing the next video! Christy
Along with eating dirt, she eats snow, wind, cold, bugs, chaff, airborne plant clippings, and heat. She needs a portable climate controlled video tent or shed, complete with an espresso machine, beverage dispenser, dorm fridge (stocked) and a snack table (stocked as well).
I just got a quote on a loaded 4075R to replace our 10 year old 5083e. Our 5 series is just too big to do much more than mow a couple spots on our complex. The 4 series, with a smaller flex wing grooming mower and ehydro, should allow us to mow more, as well as use it for more tasks around the complex. We have plans to use it for snow removal as well which we never even though about with the 5 series.
Thank you for all your videos on the 4 series tractors. They have been very informative and helpful.
Tim, Great video and very interesting. Your 5075e is a 12F/12R Power Reverser transmission. Why do you say there is no "shift on the go". As explained in the operator's manual, you can't shift between the 3 ranges (ABC) on the go, but you can readily shift between the 4 gears in each range while moving. I have a 6120e with 24F/12R Power Reverser transmission and it is very smooth shifting gears within a range while on the go.
Ok, yes, they are synchronized, which is great, but you can’t shift under load without clutching like with a powershift transmission. I probably should have gone into a bit more detail on this.
Hi Tim! I’ve been watching your videos for about a year now and I just signed the paper work for an OOS 5075e. It’s going to be too big for what I actually need for now, but I’d rather have more tractor than I need then regret not getting enough. I’m glad JD went with bigger front tires for the new 23 model.
Hey Tim I think that clutch is adjustable if I'm not mistaken. I know we adjusted ours on the 2555 and 2940. Check into it
I'd recommend doing a transmission calibration on the 5075E. I did that to my John Deere 6430 that had a crazy jumpy clutch and it fixed it. It's as smooth as silk now.
Tim, I do “blame” you for my 5075E. As I adjust to it over the past couple of years from the 3039R or 1025R, I continues to grow on me. I like the ride, the power and the comfort. I don’t even have an air ride seat for my backside. One of the best non-obvious things are the two front screens for the coolers. So easy to pop the hood, tap the debris off the screens and get back to work. The screen or lack thereof on the 3 series is a pain.
Anyway, keep doing what you are doing. I look forward to your videos
ps: you can shift on the go. You just can’t change ranges (A, B or C)
Not really ‘shift on the go’…yes, they are synchronized, but you must clutch, and cannot do that under load.
I believe you can shift through the gears by clutching on the fly in the 5e. Not the range, but 1-4 within the range. They are synchronized, just push in the clutch and shift to fine tune your speed.
Yes, but that is not true ‘shift on the go’ (under power)
Excellent. Yes, please, on the 5M. That’s what I’m looking at especially because of the transmissions.
Great video! This was what I was wanting to hear between the 2 models. The 4044m we currently have is great for our 10 acre farm but we do custom square and round baling on about 150 acres so we have a 75hp New Holland as well to help with that. Wanting something with a cab now so that the summer heat isn't as exhausting.
I have a 4075R with only 40 hours so far, and it lunges or surges a bit too, also just like you described in your comparison! It might just be a common problem with the 4075R. It’s a little annoying and seems like a defect. I am going to bring it up with my dealer when I come in for service.
Great comparison Tim. Wish I would have had data like this before I bought my JD4066M. Don't get me wrong, I like my 4066 but I sure could benefit from a heavier machine with stronger loader and a higher lift height. However I have grown accustom to my 4066 and learned to work to it's limits. Hyrostat trans is great and it is a very reliable machine.
Good comparison! I would go with the 5 series. A gear tractor and the chassis size fits my applications. A couple bucks left in my pocket is a plus also.
Great informative video and thank you guys for sharing! I own a 2022 5090E (which I know is larger than what you compared today) and I love it. Ironically, I had a 4066 (similar to the 4075R you tested) and I really loved the hydrostatic transmission; however the cab was too small and I just needed a little more power. A few months after I traded up to my 5090E my JD dealer got in a 5125R and I LOVED that tractor; however it was a little out of my price range but certainly an awesome machine. I have added some upgrades to my 5090E that I assume you could probably add to a 5075E. Those upgrades include a door kit (with steps) and an instructor or “buddy seat”. I’ve got everything I really need and just love doing field work with my 5090E. In the future I would be interested in a video comparing an E series machine to an M series. Thanks again for the great video.
I have that same 5075E that you have Tim. There is a trick to the clutch that took me a bit to figure out. Start out in B4 or C1 at idle and the friction point of the clutch is much easier to control. I use B4 most of the time for loader work and it takes some getting use to but I got it down pretty good now. The MSL loader on this machine is one of the biggest plus's I'd say, it's a beast of a loader. I came from a 4520 and wanted a cab and more HP and I don't regret it. The A/C is amazing! lol
Great video as always. Clearly the 4075R is designed for us in the north working as snow contractors. Nobody wants a gear driven transmission when blowing or plowing snow and going forward and reverse for hours in customer's driveways.
Yep I want a tractor for a wood yard, snow moving, and pig related activities. Minimal crop work. So a hydrostatic would probably fit better for me
Just for clarification, JD dropped the 5R series around a year or two-ish ago. The 5M series picked up some of the options that were previously 5R only territory. The "Powr-8" transmission with creeper option (on the fly power shifting and super slow creeper gears) would give back a lot of the E-Hydro's ease of use functionality, albeit with the requirement of using the power reversing clutch and/or the foot clutch, both of which a heavy duty wet clutches that can take a lot of abuse. Yes, this will be an expensive tractor, especially with a 540R MSL loader, but what a rig!
I think I said essentially ALL of that in this video.
As they say, “different strokes for different folks.” Very interesting and objective comparison, Tim. Although I appreciate the benefits of the 5 series, for me and my uses, my 4R cab tractor with hydro trans is sooooo handy and the only way for me to go. Your comparison confirmed my preference. Thanks for the info. Blessings.
Nice information on your video, just one thing the price on a 5075e was that when trump was in office. I bought a 2022 5075e with nsl loader and 4x4 with cab and it ran 67000.
I reckon the 4000 series is meant for yard work and the 5000 series is meant for field work. In the grand scheme of things. Definitely purchase the one that will best suit the needs at hand.
The price alone is a huge deciding factor. But i sure do like HST. The price difference outweighs in my opinion.
Thank you for your review/comparison Tim. I've been looking at the 5e for a few years but was conflicted when the 4075r came out. Just purchased a my23 5075e today and could not have felt more confident with my purchase after your review videos of each tractor.
You can shift on the go on the 5075E. Not with the range, but gears 1-4 can shift on the move. The clutch is sensitive in A range. That is it.
Have you never used a 'power shift' transmission? 'Shift on the go' means change gears under load on the fly, with no clutch. Yes, of course the 1-4 gears are synchronized...but you cannot shift under load without clutch. ...and the clutch is sensitive in all ranges. frustrating.
Hello, I have had 2 4066R cab tractors, Then I bought a 5075 cab tractor and once I got the 5075 and still having the 4066R I never really wanted to drive that 4066R, the 5075 was so easy to operate and comfortable and it had incredible torque you could feel the difference in the stability of its size and it wasn’t really a big tractor it was actually the perfect size, when my season starts I work or could work seven days a week about 14 hours a day mowing grass/weeds that are up to 12 feet tall large and small acreage and the 5075 worked wonders and it was extremely comfortable, the 4066r is a great little tractor for what it is and I feel for doing dirt work especially in tight areas it’s the perfect little tractor but since purchasing the 5075 I realize now the differences and to me they are huge and now I’ve jumped up to a 5090 E Cab tractor and that’s even better in a perfect world I would feel owning a big tractor in a small tractor is the perfect set up, both tractors are incredible. I do feel the five series is a better choice especially for the money now.
Okay, so if they made a 5075e with a hydro and some R14 tires...... (yes, I know neither of those are available, but if they did......) For my uses, I wouldn't want anything other than the hydro. Good video, thanks for taking the time to make it. Have a good one!!👍
I really like the way you explain, compare, review, and edit your videos! I wish you would weren't stuck on John Deere and would make the same type of content with Kubota as well. If you would do that with and unbias opinion, I think that would help make a lot of decisions for some folks who are trying to decide on the best tractor for their situation. It seems as reviewers only like John Deere or Kubota, so getting a non bias opinion is nearly impossible.
This is very difficult.
The Kubotas I have reviewed in depth simply do not measure up. I don’t mean to be biased, but the ones I have tested do not compete well. BX and LX.
I like the looks of the Grand L. Would like to do a more in depth review/comparison on that machine.
Would love to find a Kubota I could genuinely praise.
So far, the Kubota’s I have reviewed make me appear even more biased.
Honestly, I am open minded. I cannot say that I am enamored with the attitude of John Deere corp.
Unfortunately, from what I have seen, they are far ahead of the competition.
One other point. If you watch closely in this episode, I do not avoid the downsides to these machines. I bluntly state what I see as areas where they lack.
So, hopefully you see from that approach that I am not blinded by the green paint.
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Thanks to the Drone Lady, Christy. Nice job guys!
Thank you! Christy
Great comparison between the 4075R and 5075E!
Love to see 5e vs 5m if you ever get the chance, love the weight breakdown as I’m trying to size a tractor for a trailer and a trailer for a tractor lol
I have always been told that it is best to run a disk at 6MPH. This is so that the soil is turned over. It is hard to see with the dry soil being so loose and the dust but I would like a closeup of the surface of an area that had some weed growth after one pass of the disk.
Cool comparison, though I likely won’t ever be in the market for either. Pricing v. features in different series’s is very interesting. An example to the extreme: People might call me crazy for buying a b2650 w/cab for $30k a few years ago when you could easily get a cabless 3 series for less. Cab was that important to me! Keep up the good work!
For me the E-hydro transmission is a must. My main need is PTO hp and variable ground speeds. My choice is between the 4066R and 4075R. For some planned jobs I would need a second stationary tractor running the PTO. An older farm tractor like a John Deere 3020 might fill this role and do any heavy ground work. Ventrac and a used Toro 580D to handle most of the mowing. Farmall Cub Low-Boy just for fun! I have enjoyed your presentation of the 4075R! I also enjoyed the presentation of the Solectrac tractor. I hope that they rethink the PTO and it looks like maybe they did! The e25H says "independent PTO" Clearly this tractor will not replace my diesel tractor choices, but an independent PTO version may have niche application and get it's power from the solar system. My real problem is that I like all kinds of equipment, large and small, whether I need it or not!
I started watching your channel you were focusing on the 1025r and it's capability. This is one of the reasons I started looking at compact tractors it fit my need and my price point, but when I went to buy My John Deere all I could find in my area was the 3E series. So to the point, I think that the 3E tractor is over look and is a tractor that could benefit from up grades you have shown for the 1025 . the videos you have release recently are great to watch but are options that are to costly for most people and most small land owners dont need tractors that large.
I do really enjoy your channel, but it has gone pass my needs and think for others to. I mess how your content started out
Fair enough. We made it clear in our first 4075R review video that we are looking at this because it is ‘the new thing’ this year. There are no changes to any other machines in the compact tractor line up.
We will continue to show the compact tractors.
Personally, I am not excited about the 3e because it is less functional than the 2R.
I know a lot of folks think they are getting a ‘3 series’ so they are excited. Unfortunately, the 3e is mis-classified. Should be a ‘2M’/‘2E’ or similar.
If one wants upgrades to the 3E, they should look at the 2R.
Most 3E buyers are more concerned about price than upgrades.
In other words, you watched our videos, then, didn’t follow our advice, and now are upset that we don’t feature your exact machine.
Frustrating, for sure!
Was wondering if you could provide an overall height of the 4075. I have a 5075e and doesn’t quite fit in the garage bay I’d like to store it in. Thinking of switching to the 4075. Love the videos.
My work has 3 5115m's and a 5083E, the 5083E and one of the 5115m's have jumpy clutches the other 2 5115m's clutch's are much better so I'm not sure if it an adjustment issue. I have a Hydrostatic tractor at home that is the same size as a 4 series John Deere, I still find myself missing a gear drive and wish I had gone up to the bigger tractor. The only things I like better on the little tractor is turning radius and hooking up to 3 point implements is a lot easier with a hydro tractor.
Tim I think the comparison between the 5075e in the 5075m is quite a bold jump. Don't get me wrong the tractor is beefier and more feature-rich. But practically double the price optioned all the way out.
Hey Tim, enjoyed the video, I have a 2019 5065e with the power reverser, cab tractor and I have no problem with the clutch being Jerky, very smooth, enjoy your channel
I have to think a person I know from hs may want one of these 4075R tractors (unless he's got one on order) for his farming operation. I can see him never wanting to leave that air conditioned cab in the summer while getting corn picked.
Good comparison Tim!!
On my 3039R when I first got it my forward pedal was doing that lunging thing, very frustrating when trying to swap out FEL attachments. It ended up being something adjustment in the ECU that the tech had to make, though Deere made them start with a new potentiometer as the first part of the warranty process. That made it work flawlessly, I did a video on this because it dawned on me that there are perhaps many people out there who have just accepted this as normal.
Now, you and I both know the answer to this I'm sure, but I would love to see you put that set of disc harrows behind your 46R, JD claims to have at least two sets of pull type disc harrows that only require 35 draw bar HP, I disagree. My FIL has a set of old JD flex discs that pull very easy, he thought they were 10' and wanted to see if my 39R would pull them, but when I got out to the weeds and measured they are 12', so I told him I'll pass on that. Lol
Try it anyways
@@chasetemple3129 I still might, we're debating on it. Just to be clear, we do have large AG tractors as well, so it would only be for the fun of it.
My guess at the lunging at slow speed is worn hydrostatic pistons coming out of play and a good one coming in thus giving more pressure to turn the shaft. I could be completely wrong. We will not know until you take your hydrostatic completely apart and put it back together again with zero extra parts. Take pictures as you work so you know where all the parts go. Good luck.
Worn? Ha! It has only 5-6 hours of actual movement on it. All of them mine. It sat still according to the hour meter for 1100 hours.
Great video and side by side demonstration. Thank you, it is a big help as I am tractor shopping.
Very interesting comparison video with good opinions. As for me I have older equipment , one hydro compact for loader work and old gear drive garden tractor for any garden work.
I wish that I could understand what you are referring to when you say jumpy clutch.
We own 3 of them in different configuration and I operate one of those myself daily and don't see it in ours.
However you didn't talk about the PTO horse power , the 5075e We found has a bit more than the 4075r due to the HST transmission.
My next question is , when you did the turning radius test , where you in 4 wheel drive or 2 wheel drive?
And check under your hood , I think you'll find a dpf filter because ours regularly regen.
Great video and give Christy some seat time In that 5075e with the woods finish mower , it might grow on her 😀
‘22 and later 5075e’s do not have regen.
Mine does.
2wd for turning radius.
You have tested a 4075r PTO hp??? They just now came out.
@TractorTimewithTim been at our shop for several weeks for us to look at to see if we can use it in any of our applicable work. Overall in my opinion the verdict is still out on it but nice machine.
Let’s get started! Great video Tim as usual great explanation
Another Excellent video thoroughly enjoyed the knowledge you bring.
Hi Tim, I have a 5055e and it has a jerky clutch in it. It's so bad it's just like an on off switch. I thought it was just I had a bad one. Now I'm thinking their all like it😢
I have felt that same lunge can an older 4210, a quite new 4066r and my own 4520. Never felt it in my 4610.. I have thousands of hours on those 2 machines and the 4520 and the 4066r having that lunge I thought would just be a quirk in their transmissions but I've felt it recently in a friends 4210. He says it's been like that since new. It's actually very inconsistent in my 4520 and I remember dirt perfect talking about the same thing in his 4066r on your channel. It's like the pedals have a mind of their own. Some time barely touching them gives you a crawl and sometimes it thinks you wanted to move a foot not an inch.
Love your 5075E any chance of buying it?
Maybe. Remember, it is quite 'dressed up'. Most every option available, and several 'features' that were not even available as options when we purchased.
For field work like running a disc, mowing large acreage or plowing go with the 5 series. For plowing snow, tight spaces when mowing or using the loader in small areas go with the 4 series. The 4r series is meant for the guy who has a small, less than 50 acres, hobby farm. The 5e series is for commercial use on real farms by employees. The 4075 seems a bit superfluous.
I think the comparison would be similar between Kubota Grand L 6060 and their entry-level utility series of Kubota. The point is there are trade-offs regardless of brands on the big deluxe compact tractor and entry-level utility. JD and Kubota are the brands that I'm really familiar with. I would be curious on other brands.
I would enjoy some round baling videos with the 4R, please!
Hi Tim enjoy your videos. Wanted your opinion. I’m looking at a 5065e between 400-500 hours. I know you have a 5075 would you buy that tractor again? Appreciate your thoughts. Thanks
Well. They are cheap horsepower. That is for sure.
I would recommend the 75 over the 65.
With the 5E and the 12/12, the right shifter 1-4/P is fully synchronized and can be shifted on the fly.
Requires clutch. So not possible under load. Yes, synchronized, but not helpful under load. Try a powershift someday. You’ll see how sweet they are!
@@TractorTimewithTim I shift all the time while mowing, but your correct heavy ground engagement would not work.
I use a 5075E at work, and when it came time to buy my tractor, I would have gotten a 5E series cheaper than the 4R. The 4052R won because of the size and weight. All loaded and with kit, the 4052R would fit on my existing 22' 14k trailer.
I wonder if your 5 E was a power reverser if you would like it better. My 33R power reverser had a very smooth clutch.
Mine IS a power reverser.
I would be sad if you would sell the 5E.:( maybe it is a good idea to look at the new 5M series because of the Powr8 transmission.:)
I would love to see comparisons with the 5R tractors as well.
Which 5 series has hydrostatic? That would be nice to see compared with the 4R
None. That's one of the big points of the video.
The Grand L cab beats the 4R cab all day long, corner windows, bigger, better positioning of the loader and remote levers, even turn single, lights, horn where they should be like a car instead of on the dash like the 4r, gas shocks on the door to keep it from flying open. In that size in terms of cabs maybe the only thing to compete against it would be a Massey
I certainly like the quietness of the Grabd L cab. I found the Massey to be a bit louder, but very spacious.
Probably just a pedal adjustment. I need to stop it from lunging forward. I love to see u put that 4R up again a TYM tractor of 75Hp 😀
I have used a neighbors 75 hp TYM open station for a couple of hours. A nice machine
I have been watching these comparison videos closely, trying to decide which way to go. Lookin for a buddy for my 2038R to do my hay cutting and loader work with round bales in the field. Tim in your opinion what do you think?
Fyi I run a Kuhn gmd500 3pt 7' disc mower
Since you have the 2R, the 5075e would probably be the best complement.
If you had only one tractor…the 4075r might be able to handle all tasks, but 2R and 5e would make a better pair.
@@TractorTimewithTim thank you for the advice! I was thinking the same thing. My bale spear I have will fit the 2R and 5E.
Great Video who was more dusty by the end the tractors or poor Christy I would love to see the 5 series do some hay work I have always though it would be the perfect hay farm tractor
I do enjoy seeing the 5 series tractors on your channel every so often. Personally, I like the 2 to 4 series as well the vantrac and kubota.
60yrs ago we pulled 12 ft wheel disk with super M or 450. Horse power is rated much different now because everyone wants more 'power'
Perhaps you should evaluate the differences in the depth of cut of the old disks Vs new disks. I suspect the older disks were not as heavy, and did not cut as well as the new disk.
Thank you for the comparison since if it goes the way I want in a couple of months I will be looking for a tractor. Do you mow with a 3 series tractor?
3R offers mid mount mower.
@TractorTimewithTim my biggest question is do I buy a 1025r tractor plus a bigger one for an acreage as I will have to move snow in the winter. Plus I want a garden to grow sweetcorn and other things
Yes my 4066R has done the lunge thing also
I think your Deere dealer can fix.
Mr Tim I have 2016 jd 5055e cab. Do u have any info on a buddy seat that I can make it fit. U said u put 1 in your 5057e. Barry from MI thx sir.
My dealer made the one from the 5m fit.
Now, in the ‘22 models, there is a buddy seat supported. Talk to your dealer.
What is the height of the 5 series tractor
Has John Deere stopped the production of 5R series tractors?
It is not available for purchase in Sweden.
Yes
I found that the dollars per horsepower dropped significantly when moving from the compact class to the utility class.
My neighbor has a couple of 5075E open station tractors. They've been fairly reliable, but the layout of the operator station is horrible. I don't know who Deere is making these tractors for, but it's not men over 6' tall I can assure you. I can barely move my right leg around because of the location of joysticks and levers, the hump in the center is as wide as the ocean, and in general the controls are terribly misplaced. After sitting in the operator station I've decided there is no way I'd ever buy a Deere utility tractor for myself.
The cab tractor doesn't have the hump
Funny, beginning at 10:17, the 4 series 3 pt slowly inches itself down.
You can definitely shift between gears in the 5E on the go. You just can’t shift ranges and you can’t do that on the 4r so it’s still somewhat comparable.
Also you might want to talk to Deere about the clutch. Mine can be touchy especially at high rpm’s but I can definitely inch it around hooking up to things.
Yes, synchronized, but clutch required.
Try a powershift sometime. You’ll see what I mean. The 5e cannot chief on the go under load without clutch.
@@TractorTimewithTim but you’re not tied to one speed. I switch between gears all the time. I guess I’m just so used to using a clutch it doesn’t ever bother me. Just feel like the way you explained that wasn’t entirely fair.
Have you had the dealer calibrate the transmission?
Would have been interesting to throw in the Massey-Ferguson 4708M in the test there!
I had a 5055e 5045e 5090e 6105e all are good tractors,traded the 5045e for the 5075e and wish I kept the 45e
Is the 5075e not a synchronized transmission? You said you can't shift on the go but with a pto powered implement like a Bush hog you should be able to shift gears on the go unless the transmission isn't synchronized or you don't have live pto. I actually prefer a gear drive transmission for a Bush hog but that's coming from someone who drove gear drives from the time he had to slide down of the seat to push the clutch. One thing we do on the farm for someone who isn't familiar with shifting is we just get them to use the hydraulic shuttle. It works great for picking up big bails in the field. You just put it in a low gear and let them putter around 😆
I consider ‘shift on the go’ to be no clutch so that it can be done under power.
Tim, could you do a review on a 2023 5045E 2wd?
Much of what I said today applies. However, I think the 5045 is underpowered. I really think the 75 is the best option.
I don’t know where you can buy a 5075 e for that price but I wished I did. I just price a 23 5075e open station for 53000
I’d like a comparison between a 5075e and a 5075m
To big to be relevant for me, but I still watched.
Excellent video Tim.
You probably already knew I would love to see a 5M on your channel. LOL
You will need to give up, compromise or modify that 3 cylinder 75hp rule you talked about, and move up to the 5090M if you want to get the command quad transmission.
For me once I really dove into the 5R and learned what it was, and all about its features and options, that was it.
I had have one, now 2, The 5R simply has nearly all the stuff everyone talks about wanting on 4R or 5 series machines.
The auto clutch, command quad auto or command quad manual are so night and day nicer then the 5Ms I had with the 16/16 or 32/16 I had in the other one.
The electronic loader control joystick is so smooth, it is really amazing. I am thinking for Christy who does not seem to want to mess with a clutch, that the Command quads auto clutch feature is the way to go, you can drive them entirely without ever touching the clutch.
I do still clutch my 5Rs more out of habit then really needing to clutch. LOL
The benefit of backing up to hookup implements is game changing. I can turn my seat sideways put it in A1 with a touch of button, then back up using only the brake pedal with my left foot or right foot, not having to do a contortionist act to work the clutch, and the brakes all while turned backwards to watch my hitch. LOL .
That command quad transmissions is such a game changer.
In some ways maybe an e-hydro is still better in its simplicity and ease of use in certain situations.
Is command quad better than command 8?
@@TractorTimewithTim command quad is a 16/16, command 8 is 32/16. Both have auto clutch, and can toggle to shift through All gears access multiple ranges.
Command 8 has aside from twice the gears, it has full auto mode where you can tell it what speed you want to go and it does the rest to take you to that speed and hold it there..
There is two version of Command quad, manual and auto, manual version you toggle through gears, no auto mode available.
Command quad auto works like command 8 where it has a auto mode but only 16 gears rather then 32 like command 8.
The best parts about all 3 command versions, is auto clutch, power shifting through several ranges, no more reaching down to the floor to change ranges, no more clutching to change gears or anything if you don’t want to clutch just use the brake.
I like all the tractors but prefer the small tractor videos
My goodness Tim , you are such a John Deree equipment fan i would bet you have John Deere pyjamas. Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
Yes, but …I did not say ‘all positive’ things.
John Deere models have always been a mystery to me. Do they make it confusing on purpose?
Honestly, yes, I think so. Especially the ‘3E’ I believe they sell a LOT of them due to it being mis-named/mis-classified.
It is really a 2E or 2M.
they need to make at least a 4083 if not a 4100 , gear drive transmission and a cat 3 hitch, big hp in a small package like the ANTONIO CARRARO's
Deere has a specialty line for the 5s. They also have a Heavy Duty line for the 4s.
yikes, wonder what the weight of the soil, that blew away was?
On our 5100e you can change gears on the fly but not ranges
Not really ‘on the fly’…you have to clutch and shift, right? That doesn’t work well under load.
I guess you have a different definition of "on the fly". I mean I don't have to come to a stop to shift gears within a range (A,B,or C) Yes if you are pulling a plow you would stop as soon as you press on the clutch but I do a lot of brush hogging with it and I can shift up or down as needed without stopping
@@greghostetler238 yep. We’re on the same page. I shoulda went into a bit more detail on that.
Yes 5M and 5R.
Big difference between the two... 5075 is a utility, and the 4075 is a compact.. 😮. What is the difference in the wheel base on them.. I like them both..... 😅😅😅😊. 🍔🍔🍔🍔
8 inches or so…but turning radius much worse on 5e
@@TractorTimewithTim It has to be in the front axle... Now 6 series how would it compare.... 🤔
I prefer a gear transmission over a hydrostatic. If the 4075 came in a gear shuttle, I would consider that machine. With the only option being hydrostatic, I would not make the purchase. Plus I'm a bit one sided to Kubota now.
You would want the 5e in that case.
Sorry bigger displacement, gear tranny, and cheaper yup 5075 for me if I could afford it. Just bought a 2003 5105 with 1200 hrs on it for 6k. Needed a few things but she was American made and cheaper than new.
Nice video
I'm wondering what your thoughts are regarding down the road wear and tear maintenance costs between a geared tractor (clutch replacement for example) vs hydro which involves a lot of pumps, hydro motors, hard lines, soft lines electronic controls to operate the features. My guess as to why Deere got rid of the 5R series (for the moment anyway) is because there was so much overlap with their small 6 series units which they want you to buy instead along with my premonition of them coming out with a 5R hydro unit geared towards being a dedicated farm loader tractor for hay handling and filling feeder trucks. Just my guess. It would be awesome and very expensive.
The hydrostatic transmissions have been incredibly reliable. I just don’t see folks having issues with them.
Do you have rimguard in both front and rear? Or just in the rear and why not in all 4 tires.
I run Rimguard only in the rear. No need in the front.
Me watching this after finishing the rebuild of myJohn Deere 1957 620 LP trying to figure out what a static hydro is compared to my hand clutch 👁️👅👁️
Is the compression in the 620 LP engine higher than the gasoline 620 engine. If so, how do they get the higher compression in the LP engine. ?
@@noelstractors-firewood57Great question! I majored in mechanical engineering so I can talk about this all day but essentially Propane contains higher octane than regular gas. You can also get hi compression pistons for gas and diesel engines that can help inch out a few more HP, it’s pretty debated in the 2 cylinder community, most say it makes the tractors feel a lot more powerful!
@@ThisIsCottonMouth yes, propane is 110 octane rating. Thanks for your reply.
@@ThisIsCottonMouth yes, propane is 110 octane rating. Thanks for your reply.
Great video.
5m please
Hi Tim, I really love your content man but WOW!…. The ADS ARE TOO MUCH!!!
Sorry😢
Sorry. Sometimes there are lots of ads, and sometimes not so many.
@@TractorTimewithTim Thanks for taking the time to respond Tim!
I absolutely love your channel.
In challenging times like this it’s very beneficial to absorb positive content from legitimately good, intelligent and objective people with good morals and values.
You really provide a lot of help for those of us trying to make big financial decisions as to what to buy,
when to buy and most importantly,
if to even buy at all….
God bless you and your wonderful family. Aside from the cool tractors, you have the greatest gift a man could ask for.
Hoping to meet you in person somewhere along the way!
🤙🚜
Thank you, you’re words are very encouraging. We will be at the National Farm Machinery Show Feb 14 - 17 in Louisville , KY. Would love to see you there. Not sure if that would work for you.
Tim is such of a hydrostatic transmission compact riding mower fanboy. If he could use his little 1025R to redress a 5 mile gravel driveway he would. Listen folks, anything compact is a riding mower with a bucket. If you live in a gated community or some surburban development with nice lawns and need to carry some mulch to your trees or carry topsoil into your little 10x20 green house, or till up little patches for rose gardens and tomatoes and keep the lawn looking nice, or brush cut a couple acres a year, by all means, by a JD 1-4 series with hydrostatic transmission that everyone can have fun on. 1 series for 1 acre. 2 series for 2 acres, 3 series for 3 acres, and 4 series for 4-10 acres of light work. But if you have an actual homestead that needs land development, land cultivation, clearing trees and brush, building and maintaining roads, laying pipes and cables, lifting lifting anything with the forks or bucket over 1,000 lbs, and just all around farming, livestock, building, and development, get a JD 5xxxE utility tractor and stop maxing out those riding mowers with buckets, I mean compact "tractors". Get a ranch utility tractor like a 5xxxE. If you are a straight up farmer and grow food on multiple acres, forget about the 5xxxE. You need a 5xxxM or more.
Another middle of the night comment.
Summary: You must spend $150,000 to do ANYTHING with a tractor.
@@TractorTimewithTim Look, I'm just kicking you in the knee a bit all in good fun. We are allowed to flame popular RUclipsrs we support. And for the record, your videos are awesome and you've taught me tons from years ago before I really used real tractors and other heavy equipment around the homestead. Now that I have hands on experience working the 2032R hard for two years, a Komatsu PC 120-6 hard, Cat 304-310s hard, and other equipment on the homestead, I can say that for my needs the 2032R simply doesn't cut it and if I had to do it all over again I'd go with a 5xxxEish equivelent for $60kish and get 3x the tractor for twice the price and not put myself in dangerous situations where I am maxing out the little riding mower with a bucket. I guess I expect a lot more from a tractor since I started with 10-15 ton excavators so I push them harder than most. I need to lift 2,000 lbs on a regular basis and pull through soil. 5xxxxE all the way
Well, the 203xR is indeed a bit weak. You would likely be quite surprised with a 3039r or 3046r. MUCH more powerful hydrostatic transmission. The 2032r just sits and whines where the 3R will pull (or push) right through!
@@TractorTimewithTim Exactly. The 2x really struggles. To be honest I never tested a 3x. I should test the 3x and 4x for my use cases. But I skipped that and went straight to the 5075E. The gear system takes getting used to but so far it fits the bill. A bit large. But we have plenty of space and live in the country. So getting into typical back yards is not a concern
@@franksfamily I find the 5e to be a giant step ‘up’, but ‘back’ In maneuverability.
3R is the sweet spot. Don’t be tempted by 3e!