Best comparison video I have ever seen. No brand bias at all! Plusses and minus's on both. I recently bought a compact tractor. In my area, I had Kioti, Kubota and John Deere to choose from, all 25 hp models with front end loaders. Kioti closest, 10 miles ,Kubota, 20 miles and JD 30 miles away. JD, I looked at them, my opinion, too much plastic and cast aluminum. and the farthest away. Kioti, closest, but a very small dealership. Least purchase cost, best lift capacity and height on the loader. Impressed with the tractor! They only had one in stock with a cab(which I did not want) and I could not even order what I wanted, right down to the tire tread pattern. What was sent to them was what they had for sale. I bought a Kubota, Dealership was the largest, I was able to select the tire tread pattern and even had an option for larger dia. tires. Able to have the lower 3 point lift arms replaced with ones with extending ends( SO much easier to hook up 3 point equipment), Rear remotes installed. Free 1st service and Zero % financing. Dislikes, Heel/toe Hydo pedal, prefer 2 pedal drive. Range control lever is too far forward on the left fender, clothing, coats etc. catch on lever when getting on the tractor. Fuel fill placement. Hard to fill without scratching the paint. A left side fuel point would be a nice addition. I like where the tank is located, I live in NH., and it can get cold enough for diesel fuel to gel in lines when the tank is not inside the engine area. I am a retired Dairy Farmer, we had IH and Ford tractors with the tank in the engine area, and Case tractors with the tank in back of the operators seat. Fuel lines on the Case could gel, not the others. Though the down side to that is condensation can form easier in the engine area and fuel conditioner needs to be added. For me, I will add conditioner, vs gelled lines. Love my Kubota so far! My opinion, look close at your Dealer option's! Parts and service, not just spec's of the different Brands or model's. A tractor purchase can easily outlive the original owner! Children, grand children can use it, if it is properly stored and maintained!
Wow! Thank you for writing all of that @erictownsend4236 I really like all of the information that you laid out. I really would have liked to go Kubota since they are by far the closest dealer to me. They have a great dealer network and I have done business with them in the past. I just wish the capacities would have been on par especially given the cost difference. Now, that certainly may come at cost on the KIOTI because I have a story that is developing right this moment that I am trying to work out. Really, it is a VERY silly thing but to me it is a PAIN in the neck, what I have going on. Actually when I make a video about it, I likely thing EVERYONE will think I am crazy unless they have dealt with it themselves. I had never really thought about the fuel location and gelling. Makes a lot of sense. My wife and I nearly 20 years ago honeymooned in Portsmouth NH and Portland Main! Want to go back so badly. I have some channels that I want to visit up that way (hopefully in the near future). Thank you again and enjoy the Kubota! I also was shocked that they couldn't order what you wanted.... that seems CRAZY!
I am also going to buy another tractor. I have had only Kubota, bx23 and a svl65. I loved the bx23 but soon discovered how seemingly cheap they make them and yep they are glad to sell parts... the svl65 was fantastic did not feel cheap and worked hard. I sold the svl65 and looking for a durable tractor that can lift (not crazy) pallet of firewood, move dirt gravel...I need a in-between tractor/skidsteer. I do not want to break the bank either. Thoughts on the pricing you seen/quality. Thanks.
@professionalinspectionserv9468 honestly my dream machines would be a mini Ex and a skid steer as both of those units would be better fitted for my propery. I love having this all in one machine and if you watch some more of my recent videos, I have been putting it to work! As far as pricing, I am not sure you can beat a tractor like Mike or I purchased. Lots of capability there and while not cheap, it is still less than a new CTL or Mini.
I really hope you two continue working together on videos like this. Learned so much and you helped me make up my mind. And go with a kioti for my first tractors. Thank you for all your hard work.
Make sure you go check out his channel. He has grown up on a farm and doesn’t different sorts of work. It is certainly great to work with him. We have lots of collaboration videos planned!
First off, congratulations! That is a really nice machine! I was really impressed with the Kioti. It is going to be a great machine for you. Second, great job working together to provide useful content. This is a comparison lots of folks will be interested in. Keep up the good work!
@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead Thank you Lucas! Isn't it a tough decision? It was especially tough cause the Kubota Dealer is the closest to me and they certainly have the best hydraulics from an operation standpoint. Excited to see what you have coming sir!
I researched for almost a year before buying, was keeping an eye on Kioti, Tym and LS all very comparable. In the end it was mostly the dealership that made the final decision, along with a good special running last month by Kioti. 🚜
Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed watching it. I purchased my Branson/TYM 2515H almost 2 years ago and it is an awesome tractor, and I couldn't be happier with my purchase. I only regret not having the 3rd function remote added at the time I bought the tractor like you did so I wouldn't have to add it later for a grapple. I noticed in this video that the Kioti has a Bungee cord holding the 3-point hitch together out of the way, while my Branson/TYM came factory with holders and pins to hold it out of the way. This video takes away a lot of guessing on my part because I always wondered what the differences in the 2 tractors were. Thanks again for taking the time to make this video, my wife would also like to thank you for the video because now I definitely want the backhoe for mine in the future.
I sure appreciate you coming and watching! I think you made a great decision on your machine! So the bungee you see is only for the hydro lines going to the backhoe. Keeps em up higher so they do not hit the ground. I am not sure if this is normal or something my dealer does. Hahaha…. Watch the channel with your wife and show here all the cool things you can do with a backhoe just like Mike and Joe have!
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead I am so thrilled to have it. My steering wheel is not clocked correctly. When going straight the logo is not even close! hahahaha
@Luxurylogs i see what you mean! I noticed today that the logo seems to be clocked yet again differently! I will not worry about it then. Thank you very much for weighing in on this!
this was fun with the two of you. I went through this a long time ago (~20 years) and I looked at Branson and it was an ok machine. I bought a DK45S Kioti and its been fantastic, sure its a bit bigger so has more capacity but its still quite nimble. My favorite thing which many don't have on the smaller tractors, is a self leveling loader. this is a massive benefit with forks
@beardedrockinhillbilly I think you and others have convinced me. If the task is easier, it will likely get done more regularly and that is a win win for the hands and the equipment!
Friend: SAVE yer money ,& git a good quality lever& pistol grip guns. Good grease 6$ & tube & up....not that 1.99$ trash-lock-tight in a 200.°°$ New-fangled Slober-matic/ were ya NEVER KNOW the condition of the fitting. Grease often( every 2-3) hours/ after All its part of the daily inspection. Along with THOROUGHLY reading & Understanding the Opperaters Manuals before turning a "Key" on a New Machine....no matter how many you have run or owned. Best wishes with all your endeavours. Such a Great Vidio!!!!
Nice tractors Joe. You will love it and kick yourself for not getting it years ago. They are great boy toys. I have a used 2008 Massey GC2610 with a loader, rear grader and front mount snow blower. It is a back saver. Just follow maintenance properly and keep things greased. Be careful. I suggest you get loaded tires to increase the stability of the tractor. Have fun.
Thank you Steve! I am so incredibly thankful to have this machine. I actually found a critical joint that is a tad dry so I really need to get some grease in it asap. Like you said, I believe it is going to be a game changer for my family and I.
Great video as usual and congrats on the new machine! I bought a Kioti CK4020se/hst this past spring. Thankfully mine came with the “C” loader as well. I got the backhoe with it and also picked up a grapple for it. It just turned over 60hrs last week and I couldn’t be more happy with it! I’m sure your experience won’t be much different. Be safe and have fun!
@wvoutdoorsmen5887 Did you see this coming???? I did not look at machines in that size range but I bet it is sure nice having the SE madel with ALL of the options! A grapple is going to come eventually but I am VERY picky about grapples. I like them as sort of a root rake to be able to clean up all the small debris from tree work. What do you have? How is your dirt?? I actually was recently looking at Land out that way and it is VERY similar to my topography but there is much more of it available. Can we consider ourselves "lucky" to have the C loader???
Both machines have great features. They are both accomplishing the same thing but they have different approaches how each manufacturer build them. Was very cool to see next to each other and compare
Man you both gel really well together. Your presentation is down to earth and completely honest, something that we need to see more of. What a great idea to compare and contrast these two competing tractor makes. You both hit the ball out of the park with this 45 minute vid.
I really appreciate that! Mike and I have become good friend through YT and I am certainly appreciative that he was willing and able to drag his machine over here. We are close but just far enough to make things a bit of a chore in terms of travel. Thank you again and hope you see you around!
Awesome investment for the future! My heavy equipment experience is limited, and have no experience with compact tractors. Awesome to have a friend like Mike to walk you through it and super excited for you👍🏻
@aaronpowell4885 The amount of work and opportunity this machine is going to give to the family and to the channel is going to be a game changer. As I put time on it, I am VERY impressed with the capabilities. I cannot believe how rusty I was at using the Backhoe controls. Took a little and now I feel like it is coming back. I need to say thank you to you and other like DR and CF for being here all of the time. You have all helped grow this channel and make this day possible. Thank you again!
CF, I cannot believe it is out my window right this moment. I can thank YOU and all off the other viewers like you who have made this possible. Thank you so much for being here EVERY time. It is going to be a game changer for sure!
Compact tractors are SUPER handy for all sorts of projects and tasks. Now I'm the local TYM/Branson/Bad Boy mechanic. New to the brand so I still have to learn all the fine details and machine specs but they dont seem terribly difficult to work on.
Dave, the possibilities are endless! The Bad Boy machines are SUPER cool looking for sure and since they are mechanically identical, they are VERY good machines for sure. Very capable. The Bad Boy attachments are TOP Notch from what I have seen. I actually operated a Bad Boy Zero Turn just the other day. VERY impressive!
I really like how you pointed out some differences without running the other machine down I have a ck 3510 for 3 years very happy with it I think you will be too
That comment is much appreciated because I try to do this with everything I talk about. I find that there is rarely a product that cannot be improved some way and just because a logo is on it, doesn't mean it is perfect. Thank you for being here. How do you use your machine primarily?
Either is a great choice. Once you put the grapple on there, it'll be the most utulized tool on the machine. My CK2610 front wheels have the protected valve stem. Another item you'll want right away is the "Linked Pedal" its a game changer. Enjoy!
Thank you Tom! My mind is looking all over thinking, " i can tackle that". It is a VERY good feeling. Going to help develop our property so much and help get stuff done. Oh.... the headlights are awesome man! Anyway, thank you so much for watching friend. Your house is coming together so nicely sir!
Good video. I'm a TYM owner, but I like to see comparisons, and the differences between them and other brands. Yall should have talked about the engines a bit. That TYM/Kukje A series is all mechanical, and bit easier to work on, with no ECMs or wiring harnesses to worry about. At the same time though, you don't get all the sensors a motor with an ECM has, so you have to pay more attention to how your tractor feels and sounds, to make sure you don't overheat it, or cause other issues. If you're an old tractor owner this is how it's always been, but for new tractor owners, who are only used to the vehicles they drive, sensors might make sense.
Great comment and that is certainly something that is attractive about the Branson engine. I know that initially I was very interested because of that very thing. You do bring up a good point though that unless a person is familiar with diesel operation, you may have to indeed rely upon Over error codes. If I were going to go with a larger horsepower engine, I think I would have been more inclined to go with the Kukje engine to keep it as simple as possible. Thank you so much for watching and commenting.!
Thank you so much for watching Heath! I forgot that you just got that tractor and that thing is a beauty. I just watched you move some logs around with your rotating grapple. Have a good time at the show and I hope you are able to give a lot of shirts out! I have a feeling there’s gonna be a lot of HWM shirts walking around the bunion show🤣
4 years ago I was in the market for something to take over for the JD 630 & MF 35. Did due diligence on comparisons and found Kioti to have more included options than the others. Sold the MF 35 at auction and got >$1,000 more than I bought it >20 years ago. The JD 630 .... kind-a sits in the barn looking pretty and gathers dust. Tim-the-Toolman Taylor got it right .... "More Power!!!" The Kioti RX 7420 does just that.
Awesome! Thank you for watching and thank you taking the time to share your experience! Sounds like you have two very nice tractors available to you now!
Good job, Joe. And congrats on the new tractor. I've heard a lot of good things about both of those models and operated both at the Equip Expo with Lucas. Tractor Hard. 🚜💪!
I got my ck3520 Oct 2nd. I got loader grapel bushog and back hoe. I'm loving it. I'm re taking a old 40 acre farm. I've got almost 50 hrs on it now. I feel like it's getting broke in and gaining more power. Same loader as you have.
I am at 30 hrs now and have been loving EVERY minute. Make sure you check your front axel for fluid. Mine was VERY low. Go to know that it may feel a bit more stout as it breaks in.
I just got to determine the loader on my 2620cab. For a while there was a shortage of the 4030 loaders and it was hit and miss but that has now been solved I was told. The extra reach and dig depth made it the best for me but hose management with a cab sucks.
I had no clue about any of this information. I really do appreciate you stopping by and sharing your experience and your knowledge. There is always so much and sometimes even with the Internet there is very limited information in a particular spot and you really have to go looking for it. Again thank you so much for sharing
It sure was and I am Thankful that you were here for it man! No better friend to have around at such an event. Thank you so much for bringing your machine over as well. I actually learned alot from you when you were digging on my slop sir.
I've owned a Kioti CK2610HST for 4 years now. Just a basic machine with a set of rear remotes. Wish I would have gotten the 3rd function. I looked at RK, JD, and Kubota. All local dealers but Kioti was the only one that seemed to want to make a sell. I've worked this machine hard and it just keeps going.
Great to hear! That was also part of my experience. They were the ones most ready with actual numbers for me. Played a part in my purchase for sure. Thank you for sharing
I am very happy that you gentleman had both units to compare. I am currently trying to decide which of those tractors I am going to purchase. Love the comparison, thank you!
You are very welcome! Good luck on your decision. It is super tough to do so and I hope Mike and I helped you out in your research. Appreciate you watching and commenting!
Thank you @faithfulfarmadventures! I know you deal in a lot of auction type stuff and larger ag stuff. Do you have a compact Tractor? I have trouble keeping everyone equipment straight.
@@oakiewoodsmanI had a Deere 3025e that I put 1200 hrs on with no problems. I’m in the market for another 25 hp tractor and it definitely won’t be a Deere the lift capacity is garbage, 2 speed hydrastat and a few other negative things that make the “other” brands way more attractive.
Excellent! I did LOTS of work with this machine today. A linked pedal could come in handy at times but overall, super happy with the performance of the this machine and the Backhoe is FANTASTIC! Good workout today!
Nice tractor! Jason wanted to watch this morning after seeing you on Mike's video. We've been subbed a while but busy busy as you may know! Mike is a great guy and we watch him all the time! Jason has a lot of experience working with and on tractors his whole life. You guys are doing awesome. Fantastic collaboration guys!
Thank you for stopping by and commenting! I appreciate that very much cause that is the lifeblood of a channel. Mike is a great friend and I am glad to know him!
I sure appreciate you stopping by and watching! Mike is a real good friend of mine and we do videos together and will do more in the future. You have a wonderful tractor and I hope you enjoy it. We are getting a ton of work done over here, and we are less farming, oriented, and more building and property developing oriented on our 12 acres of wooded land.
Nice review! I had ordered a Kioti CK4020 about the time this video was released, and the TYM was next on my list. Since I didn't need the backhoe, I splurged and spent $$$ on the cab SE model instead. No regrets at this time, but I still have implements on order and yet to arrive before I really get into using it. Primary job will be a 66" hammer flail and wood chipper, so went with the 40hp for some extra PTO power. A plus for your Kioti CK2620 choice over the TYM is the ability to up it closer to 35hp if you know to search YT videos on how easy that may be while still having no DPF system to worry about. Another difference I really like is the controls next to the seat, with arm rests for support, without having to reach out all day. I guess running 100 hours or so on a John Deire (new correct spelling since they came out of the DEI closet, thanks to Robby Starbucks) 110 TLB hydrostat spoiled me a few years ago!
hahahaha! Thanks for the great comment! Yes, I am aware of the ability to turn it up! I am going to get through my warranty period. How do you like your machine???? You sure got a nice one!
Great video young men!! Congratulations on your new kioti tractor!! Well I had a 1526 mahindra my cousin sold Branson tractors he talked me into getting a 2515 Branson the way I use a tractor it just didn't feel safe to me I loaded the tires with finish mower my 2 granddaughters in the bucket it actually broke traction in yard. If I had more weight on 3 point there no doubt it was a good tractor. I got a 1626 mahindra 3 years ago. Just traded for a new kioti ck3520se tractor I truly love the tractor so comfortable with work the way I do. Wanted the 2620 but dealer didn't have it in shuttle shift I personally didn't want hydrostat drove big truck to many years. Didn't really want the regen stuff but it is amazing the differences 10 hp makes. Thanks for sharing ya'll be safe enjoy.
Great story! I appreciate you watching and taking the time to share with is all. I originally was going to buy a non hydrostat but nearly everyone talked me out of it due to my intended usage and property topography. I drive a manual transmission truck and love it but with the lack of fields, mowing and clear space, I decided to go with this unit. Again, thank you for being here!
Well done. I appreciate the comparison. I looked at these two brands, Kubota, and Mahindra before I landed on a Deere. IMO, there was no comparison once I sat in the seat of the Deere. Much more stable, able and comfortable. I had to pay up, but I’m in it for the long haul and Deere was the only choice for me.
Thanks for sharing. Capacity was the primary issue for me and I think many others. JD and Kubota have superior hydraulics for sure! Thank you again and enjoy your beautiful tractor
You are very welcome and I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and then share! That is what makes this whole world function and I appreciate it tremendously. Are you leaning any particular direction?
For two country boys with a cell phone this is a great video. What an awesome idea for a video, it would cool if you had 5-8 brands in this same size as a buyers guide. Very interesting, good job
You are very welcome! I really appreciate you stopping by and watching and taking the time to comment. Many people watch, but don’t and it means a lot to me. Thank you again.
Im glad i bought the Tym 474 cab tractor because when i compared this tractor with Kubota and kioti... Tym came out on top.But its good to see a video like this you guys made some very got points on both tractors.
Hi IowaPerformanceSaws. Look at as many as you cam and compare features. If your looking for the large frame 25hp machine like these two I feel these two are leading the class with price, capabilities, and features. Good luck shopping. Let us know what you end up with
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead great tip Mike! I agree with you on the selection on these two machine. There truly was no "reason" for me to look elsewhere once Price and capability were factored in. I do wish my dealer were a bit closer however. Lets just hope the machine doesn't need to go back there many times in the future.
The KL4030 has slightly less lift capacity, but has better reach beyond the front of the tractor at full height. If a dealer does enough volume they wouldn't have a problem giving you the loader you preferred. We build the units from crate and have dozens of CK's here with different loaders. You shouldn't be stuck with one option.
Thank you for the clarification! While it would be fantastic to have a high volume dealer nearby, I do not but that makes sense that there may some swapping being able to occur. Are you able to order whatever loader you wish are do you just swap as needed?
@@oakiewoodsman We don't know which loader we'll get, and I have a feeling we'll stop seeing the KL4030C soon, but right now we have enough of both to allow the customer to choose. It's not that much of a difference in performance for most to be bothered.
@@oakiewoodsman No, it's made for Canada. All the loaders are made in Korea, but different models are sometimes made for different markets. A good example would be the Australian Kioti loaders all having self leveling. There are plans for a North American Kioti plant that would likely produce things like that over here, but nothing yet.
very interesting! I wonder why they have determined the Canadian market would need a shorter loader reach? I love it personally. I have spend a bunch of times working in the woods and greatly appreciate a shorter front end especially with the backhoe on the machine. I am super impressed!
hahaha hey Russ yes "tool". I'm excited for Joe. I know this machine will change the way he does a lot of things around his place. Its going to make his life and his family's life a lot easier.
hahahahaha.... tools are also Toys! That is one of the best parts of being a property owner, a RUclipsr and all the rest! FUN STUFF! Keep up the good work Russ!
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead literally my wife just came in a told me she wants me to do a regular Tractor session with the boys about maintenance, usage etc! This will for sure change the way we operate and honestly, will change ours lives for a lifetime!
Have the prices gone way up? I was looking about when your purchased. Thanks for sharing! Has it been really good for ya? Any complaints, anything you love?
The 4030 loader has more breakout force and reach at full height compared to 4030c. So the branson 2515 parking break is better. You can use just your feet to set it similar to the kioti. Thanks for the comparison!
Hi JT. That's good information. I honestly didn't know they had two different loaders untill we started digging in the specs. I will try that. I haven't used my foot on my parking brake before. My o ly worry is it's about one inch from the floor board and would I have to use me heel or just turn around to use my toes. I'll give it a go because it's a huge pain to use your hand
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead well, the older branson models its a latch that fits into slots that is right near/on the brake pedal. Keeps the pedal depressed is all. Thought the newer version on tym was better, but I guess not! Haha
The “C” on the loader means it is compatible with “Cab” versions. (Higher lift capacity because of less reach). C loader can fit on ROPS, so you will see both, where the cab models have to have the C loader or it will hit the cab.
I had not heard that yet and I really appreciate you jumping in here with that information. I had heard it was a regional thing and the “c” stood for Canada. I was scratching my head trying to figure out why they would be specked differently with different reach and capacities. This however, seems to make quite a bit of sense and I would like to find out more about it. Thank you so much!
It’s always better having a swing seat. getting off and on every time to go forward or backwards. Yes you can move with the hoe itself but swing seat is just so much better. hell can’t tell you how many times didn’t even plan on using the hoe and seen something and just stopped and used the hoe really quick and it’s so nice not have to get off the machine.
Thank you for watching in commenting. Keep in mind that there is always something better for more money. Please let me know a machine in this capacity and at this price that has every feature perfectly laid out. Plus my two young boys love sitting in that driver seat and moving me back-and-forth as I stay on the backhoe.
I bought a Kioti 4210SE. It has the loader but no backhoe. (Which i wish I had gotten with it). The only thing I have not liked about the Kioti is the pre- screen on the radiator! The screen openings are to large. I use mine to do a lot of mowing and brush hogging. And the grass and seeds that being stirred up plug the radiator 😮up quite often! Causing me to have to stop and wash out the radiator quite a fee times year! Other than that the Kioti had been an amazing purchase. I've never been on a Branson tractor. But I am going to purchase a smaller machine and I am sure I will buy another Kioti! Even though I have family working at our local John Deere dealership! And I can get a discount on a green machine. I will still opt for the Kioti. I grow a commercial garden here on our farm and it's not disappointed me at all yet!
fantastic news! I love hearing this stuff and I love it when people have legitimate things that could be improved. That is good for everyone to see so they can actually get a heart beat of how people really like their machines. Buying a tractor is a big deal and I feel as if I made a good choice. However, people like you with more experience are where the "review" truly is available. I appreciate you taking the time to share this with everyone including myself.
That's a great collaboration video. I'm looking at the same 2 machines, this is exactly what I wanted to see. Loved the ergonomics section. Both have what I would call advantages over the other in different aspects, but both are completely capable. Similar warranties, similar in price. I need more ground clearance - would be interesting to know which is higher including subframe which drops down quite a bit on both. Did you see a beafyness difference in how the backhoes attached to their subframes. I like that you don't have to take 3-pt off on Kioti to attach backhoe. Thanks for posting
I think either is a good machine but it looked as if the TYM had a little less clearance near the middle of the machine but I really cannot give you an accurate answer on that one. Thanks for watching and sharing and good luck on your decision!
Thanks I enjoyed this video (first time viewer). it is IMO a very good comparison between these two machines. However I personally need and am looking for something larger. A utility tractor in the 70-90 engine h.p. size range. 4wd with a loader, 2 rear remotes and 3rd function hyd. on the loader. I do not need a backhoe. I do have the extra girth that really appreciates ergonomics.
Do you have one that you are leaning towards? I think you will be a very happy owner of whatever one your pick! What is going to be your primary usage?
@@oakiewoodsman I have a long gravel drive and small gravel lot that needs attention. I also have some dirt work at my house I plan to do this fall. Next spring, I plan to bushhog, till, and plant a sunflower field for doves this spring and leaning toward a 35 or 40 engine. I maintain some trails which I am currently using my zero turn. I was just at the Kioti dealer about 15 min. from my house and he confirmed your statement regarding the loader from Canada. Because of the dealership being close, I am leaning towards the Kioti but nearly pulled the trigger on a TYM last month. To be honest, if the TYM dealer was closer, it would be a tough decision but....I think the Kioti in the 20SE series has a lot a feature which edges out the TYM.
@georgeharper6034 i bet you will love it. Of the dealer is right there, that makes a lot of sense. Kubota was my closest dealer but simply couldn’t justify the cost and lack of specs.
Awesome! I really appreciate you taking the time to share and watch to that point in the video. Very good for myself and anyone else who is watching that simply does not know.
hahahahaha.... but in all fairness, a pristine 8N is nowhere near the price of these two modern machines. Thank you for watching and sharing. Please tell me why the 8N is so difficult if you do not mind
@@oakiewoodsman Rather than trying to explain it I made a short video . But now it looks like there is no way for me to upload it as a reply so I will try to explain. The 8N has the right and left foot break petals both on the right side and they are a fairly solid linkage that turns a shaft that goes straight into the break drum expanding the shoes. This shaft runs right along the rear axle and is supported at both ends by the break housing at one end and the transfer case housing at the other. Attached to the shaft at the transfer case end is what could be described as a large ratchet pawl and on the case housing is plate with a row of teeth along one side. So to put on the parking break you push down on the break pedal and then reach down under the seat next to the rear axle and turn the ratchet pawl into the teeth to lock it in place. Then you can release the break pedal and the break will stay on and you hope it is tight enough to hold . If you want or need both breaks on you need to then do the same thing for the other side. To release you just need to push on the break peddle an let it up. The hardest part of that is remembering to do it because the tractor has more than enough power to move with the break on with only a slight loss in power feeling and this will ware out your break shoes quick. Go ahead ask me how I know! :) I must say I like the Kioti's method the best of the 2 but the TYM's is still not that bad. 😁
They used to sell the Kioti backhoe on the TYM. Make sure you check the bolts on the backhoe. Wow the handbrakes are bad on these not that I use them I just open the bucket and use the back edge.
you know... I do believe I forgot those ones so I surely appreciate you mentioning this to me. I did not know that TYM sourced some parts from Kioti before. Thanks for the information!
Good news bad news. Bad news, I ended up with the 4030 loader. Good news, it still has one of the highest lift capacities in the industry and all the lift capacity I need it for. 🚜
Hey rockin hillbilly. I think the 4030 is just fine and most people won't notice the difference in capacity. The Kioti is a great machine all around and like you said it is one of the top machines in this class with its lift capacity. Thank you for being here
@beardedrockinhillbilly but I am seeing that there are some specs on it that are actually better in some regards. May not be actually much of an "issue" but on paper, it seems nice to have the extra capacity. How long ago did you get your machine and what are your primary uses? Thank you so much for being here and sharing!
@@oakiewoodsman A week and a half ago. Just a hair under 5 acres, 2 wooded 3 lawn/pasture. I tried to do the buy once cry once, offset ditch bank mower, land plane, grapple, stump bucket, pallet forks. The only thing I didn't get yet is the tiller I want. I'm hoping I can pick up a used one in good shape next spring on a good deal. Just hobby farming and property maintenance for now, although I might get into planing gravel driveways and tilling gardens / food plots in a year or so as a side hustle. 🚜
@beardedrockinhillbilly Very cool indeed! I just put some more time on this machine today and I am extremely impressed with all that I am putting it through. Congrats on the new purchase and it sounds like you got a great setup for sure. Hope to see ya around and please let me know how the machine is treating ya sometime down the road.
I just got the 4030 on my new 2620 cab. Ordered it for the extra foot of reach when loading trucks and the heavier duty quick attach assembly. It looses some capacity but it has an extra 100 pounds of steel over the C
A backhoe on a tractor like that I think is more trouble than it's worth.I've got a tractor that has a gannon and box on the back very handy and then.I also bought a used tac ocean excavator it's got the little plow on the front.That thing is great.I use it more than the tractor
Would lowering the out rigger make it easier to get on/backhoe? I’m not familiar with either Manufacturer, so I’m not sure if you’re able to operate outriggers from the ground?
I am not sure it would make it easier but standard practice I do believe is to be in the seated position before lowering them. I have of course done if from outside of the machine but that could certainly put you in harms way of you were to set the pad in your foot or maybe the machine could shift. My KIOTI is very easy to enter and exit!
Dang, that stretch. Looks like you may need to try getting some stretches in. That honestly does look super uncomfortable to set that break. I don’t think I could do it. 😂
I think they are both great tractors and with everything, each will have some advantages and disadvantages. So far I have been very impressed with my machine. I have moved lots of dirt/rock, did stumps etc. The factory linked pedal on the TYM would certainly be welcome but when Ibam pushing dirt, run it in Low with the throttle up anyway. Thanks for watching and make sure you check out my other tractor videos.
Thanks for sharing. There will be an update on this coming very shortly. I will have to say that I did struggle a little bit. I also need to say that I was not new at greasing equipment, but this situation was unexpected.
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If I had been a cash buyer, I would have considered it. The market is such where the incentives are so good on financing right now that it simply didn’t make sense to try to piece together a used package exactly like I wanted. I really appreciate your comment and had I purchased used I wouldn’t have been able to make this comparison video. 😉
Wow. Have never had a problem with the Kubota lines. Never let me down ever. But those tractors are probably great to just take care of them they'll last a long Time
Can I ask what you are referring to? I have forgotten the whole conversation in this video. Appreciate you sharing and really like Kubota Machines too!
With air readily available, that would be a fantastic option! Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I have a solution coming, hopefully on Tuesday.
I wish you had compared engines. I've heard that the TYM is simple with no computer, etc. to tear up down the road. Would like to know about the Kioti engine components.
I am fairly certain this 25 HP machine is also all mechanical as well. Since I am not yet an expert on it we just couldn't really speak about it much. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
Just for clarification - Do you have a CK2620H (hydrostatic transmission), or the CK2620 (9-speed manual transmission)? The "H" of 2515H usually indicates a hydrostatic transmission on the TYM model.
GREASE GUN: definitely go with electric. I have the Milwaukee 18v and it was worth the money. Having it makes me grease as much as I should, where doing it with a manual pump, I found myself neglecting it more. Any machine that has 10+ grease points, you will be happy you went electric.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to write out that comment! That’s what I was kind of thinking is that if it were easy, I would do it more often. Putting the different connector on my grease gun has certainly helped but does have a learning curve to it. Thank you for watching!
I would never have either one. I have looked at Kioti before. I was not pleased with how the backhoe hooked up to the tractor. Looks like the TYM has the same setup. JD & Kubota backhoes are closer to the tractor. I have a 42 hp kubota but did not get a backhoe. I didn't have plans to use such implement. I prefer an excavator over backhoe.
I hear ya but neither of those options make sense. $10k more plus far less capable. When they get their specs equal, then they can charge their premium for the name, resale value and superior hydraulics. I prefer the Kubota Hydraulic operation over my tractor 100%. But again for nearly 2k lbs of lift and 10k less, I will take KIOTI any day. Even if I could have afforded the Kubota, it still didn't left enough. If my pocket book were that thick, I would buy and CTL and Mine EX instead. Thanks for sharing
I just bought a CK2620 everyone talks about convienence of loader control on fender, but I catch myself bumping it with my knee everytime i look back over my shoulder at whats going on behind tractor. I dont realize whats going on until front end is up in air.
I have got to ask how this is occuring? Are you a very tall person where your knee is up all they way up? I turn around all the time and have not even come close to this occuring. Thank you for sharing and I hope you figure out a solution to your trouble!
I have a bobcat, which is basically a coyote and mine has the protectors on the valve stems on the front so maybe it was just a quality controlled problem
@@TheRustyGarageandHomestead what was the price difference from yours and his ? I do like the placement of the loader handle on mine and the dokie oakie guys way better. That and the 2 foot petals are what sold me on my ct2040 . I do wish I had a backhoe . I'm switching implements quite often so I'm not sure if I want to do that , almost every day I switch my front bucket to forks or my grapple . I use my tractor almost every day . I really would be lost without it. I move lots of pallets to totes to wood building supplies everything, I bet I use the forks more than the bucket . Now we clean ( I sit on tractor watching RUclips ) the 5 chicken coops , 1 duck house & 1 goat house out at least every 2 weeks in a rotation so she will clean a couple every weekend. Well great job u2 I was always wondering how he does it without a tractor , his life is going to get much easier now . Especially with the wood . I move trailers around all the time with my tractor I have 16 of them I think. We'll likely I said great job
@toddcaskey9984 thank you Mr Todd. The price was very close with each other. Idk if Joe wants to share that or not. Also you have to consider these machines have a cash price and a financing price that can change a machines price by a few thousand. Both machines have different positives over the other. They both, I think are equally great and capable machines. I think once he gets going this is going to be a daily use machine for him around his homestead with the things he does. 16 trailers is alot of trailers lol I thought I had several.
@toddcaskey9984 that is very interesting. I will try to take a look and see if the older units or other units the little guard on the valve stem. Hmmmmmm. Never thought about that as a possibility.
Thanks for the reviews. I was leaning towards Kioti. I went to the site and did a build, holy @#$%. I am at $40,000 with just a front loader and backhoe. Definitely not inexpensive. Thanks. Might be looking at used, lol.
I am hearing all sorts of things about that! I accidentally made this choice so I can count myself lucky for sure! Thank you for watching and commenting!
I do know about that because I am a Toyota vehicle owner. The only problem is is the specs are severely lacking on the orange tractor. Kinda like when you need a 1 ton truck Toyota doesn’t have an option for you. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Personally I don't like automatic PTO because down the road I'll choose u-joints over the clutch any day of the week, twice on Sunday. Even if I need to do u-joints 10 times more often, that's preferable to the clutch. Just my perspective.
All out of my realm of knowledge so I sure appreciate you sharing this bit of information. So much can be learned from a comment like this. Thank you again!
That Lock N Lube is going to be critical! I got an electric gun today and 2 fittings broke as I pulled the regular end off. They appear to be brass on this machine. Not sure what the heck and why. Thank you much!
That makes total sense. If it gets impacted, the side pressure should mess up the threads on the machine. Will easily be remedied with a lock and lube setup.
As far as foot board could always get the sand paper tape they use on boat trailer fenders cant remember exactly what it is called but its alot like the grip tape on skateboards
That could be a very good option for sure! Thank you for sharing that bit of information. Since we have had some rain, the metal does indeed get a bit slick when wet.
One thing that I’m seeing more and more of with backhoe attachments that are annoying to me is when the backhoe is locked up into its transport lock position…. Many of them don’t pull up into a vertical’s position. They are always hanging low at a 30 degree angle from being vertical. I have a JD 3046R Cab tractor… I love the vertical transport posistion. However I do wish it had heavier duty swing cylinders and heavier duty stabilizer cylinders. As well as the releasable latch lock. But my boom and dipper and bucket have plenty of power. There is a newer generation of my 375a backhoe that fixed the anemic swing pistons, and stabilizer pistons. And the newer generation also has way less side to side wobble that I’ve experienced with mine.
So are you saying that if you buy a year nine machine you lose support in one year? I really appreciate you watching but I think that it probably depends quite a bit on the numbers of that particular model sold. I think that some brands have better or worse parts support in a can certainly come back to bite you. Did you ever get it figured out with your Mahindra?
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Best comparison video I have ever seen. No brand bias at all! Plusses and minus's on both.
I recently bought a compact tractor. In my area, I had Kioti, Kubota and John Deere to choose from, all 25 hp models with front end loaders. Kioti closest, 10 miles ,Kubota, 20 miles and JD 30 miles away. JD, I looked at them, my opinion, too much plastic and cast aluminum. and the farthest away. Kioti, closest, but a very small dealership. Least purchase cost, best lift capacity and height on the loader. Impressed with the tractor! They only had one in stock with a cab(which I did not want) and I could not even order what I wanted, right down to the tire tread pattern. What was sent to them was what they had for sale. I bought a Kubota, Dealership was the largest, I was able to select the tire tread pattern and even had an option for larger dia. tires. Able to have the lower 3 point lift arms replaced with ones with extending ends( SO much easier to hook up 3 point equipment), Rear remotes installed. Free 1st service and Zero % financing.
Dislikes, Heel/toe Hydo pedal, prefer 2 pedal drive. Range control lever is too far forward on the left fender, clothing, coats etc. catch on lever when getting on the tractor. Fuel fill placement. Hard to fill without scratching the paint.
A left side fuel point would be a nice addition. I like where the tank is located, I live in NH., and it can get cold enough for diesel fuel to gel in lines when the tank is not inside the engine area. I am a retired Dairy Farmer, we had IH and Ford tractors with the tank in the engine area, and Case tractors with the tank in back of the operators seat. Fuel lines on the Case could gel, not the others. Though the down side to that is condensation can form easier in the engine area and fuel conditioner needs to be added. For me, I will add conditioner, vs gelled lines.
Love my Kubota so far! My opinion, look close at your Dealer option's! Parts and service, not just spec's of the different Brands or model's. A tractor purchase can easily outlive the original owner! Children, grand children can use it, if it is properly stored and maintained!
Wow! Thank you for writing all of that @erictownsend4236 I really like all of the information that you laid out. I really would have liked to go Kubota since they are by far the closest dealer to me. They have a great dealer network and I have done business with them in the past. I just wish the capacities would have been on par especially given the cost difference. Now, that certainly may come at cost on the KIOTI because I have a story that is developing right this moment that I am trying to work out. Really, it is a VERY silly thing but to me it is a PAIN in the neck, what I have going on. Actually when I make a video about it, I likely thing EVERYONE will think I am crazy unless they have dealt with it themselves.
I had never really thought about the fuel location and gelling. Makes a lot of sense. My wife and I nearly 20 years ago honeymooned in Portsmouth NH and Portland Main! Want to go back so badly. I have some channels that I want to visit up that way (hopefully in the near future). Thank you again and enjoy the Kubota!
I also was shocked that they couldn't order what you wanted.... that seems CRAZY!
I am also going to buy another tractor. I have had only Kubota, bx23 and a svl65. I loved the bx23 but soon discovered how seemingly cheap they make them and yep they are glad to sell parts... the svl65 was fantastic did not feel cheap and worked hard. I sold the svl65 and looking for a durable tractor that can lift (not crazy) pallet of firewood, move dirt gravel...I need a in-between tractor/skidsteer. I do not want to break the bank either. Thoughts on the pricing you seen/quality. Thanks.
@professionalinspectionserv9468 honestly my dream machines would be a mini Ex and a skid steer as both of those units would be better fitted for my propery. I love having this all in one machine and if you watch some more of my recent videos, I have been putting it to work! As far as pricing, I am not sure you can beat a tractor like Mike or I purchased. Lots of capability there and while not cheap, it is still less than a new CTL or Mini.
l3302 here , you get what you pay for!
I really hope you two continue working together on videos like this. Learned so much and you helped me make up my mind. And go with a kioti for my first tractors. Thank you for all your hard work.
Make sure you go check out his channel. He has grown up on a farm and doesn’t different sorts of work. It is certainly great to work with him. We have lots of collaboration videos planned!
First off, congratulations! That is a really nice machine! I was really impressed with the Kioti. It is going to be a great machine for you. Second, great job working together to provide useful content. This is a comparison lots of folks will be interested in. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Mr Lucas. I feel if someone went with eaither of these machines they would be happy in there decision.
@PeeksPeakHobbyHomestead Thank you Lucas! Isn't it a tough decision? It was especially tough cause the Kubota Dealer is the closest to me and they certainly have the best hydraulics from an operation standpoint. Excited to see what you have coming sir!
I researched for almost a year before buying, was keeping an eye on Kioti, Tym and LS all very comparable. In the end it was mostly the dealership that made the final decision, along with a good special running last month by Kioti. 🚜
Wow, even got celebrities watching and commenting on this video.🤣
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Thanks for the video, I really enjoyed watching it. I purchased my Branson/TYM 2515H almost 2 years ago and it is an awesome tractor, and I couldn't be happier with my purchase. I only regret not having the 3rd function remote added at the time I bought the tractor like you did so I wouldn't have to add it later for a grapple. I noticed in this video that the Kioti has a Bungee cord holding the 3-point hitch together out of the way, while my Branson/TYM came factory with holders and pins to hold it out of the way. This video takes away a lot of guessing on my part because I always wondered what the differences in the 2 tractors were. Thanks again for taking the time to make this video, my wife would also like to thank you for the video because now I definitely want the backhoe for mine in the future.
I sure appreciate you coming and watching! I think you made a great decision on your machine! So the bungee you see is only for the hydro lines going to the backhoe. Keeps em up higher so they do not hit the ground. I am not sure if this is normal or something my dealer does. Hahaha…. Watch the channel with your wife and show here all the cool things you can do with a backhoe just like Mike and Joe have!
Those are both very capable tractors , and I’d say you can’t go wrong with either machines. Great info !!!
Much appreciated and I completely agree with you! Thank you for watching and commenting
This machine is extremely nice in person. The more you use the the more your gonna wonder how you got by without it.
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead I am so thrilled to have it. My steering wheel is not clocked correctly. When going straight the logo is not even close! hahahaha
@@oakiewoodsman mine does the same thing. It's because it's hydraulic controlled. Sometimes mine is right but more than not it's wrong.
@@oakiewoodsman it will never be straight , it will keep changing on you as you steer or oversteer. If that makes sense.
@Luxurylogs i see what you mean! I noticed today that the logo seems to be clocked yet again differently! I will not worry about it then. Thank you very much for weighing in on this!
this was fun with the two of you. I went through this a long time ago (~20 years) and I looked at Branson and it was an ok machine. I bought a DK45S Kioti and its been fantastic, sure its a bit bigger so has more capacity but its still quite nimble. My favorite thing which many don't have on the smaller tractors, is a self leveling loader. this is a massive benefit with forks
I gotta be honest, I had no clue the Branson was out 20 years ago! Love the comment and information. Thank you for watching!
Man I keep coming back to this video to watch it over and over again. Great Job on this
😉 I understand. This is a great reference and useful for ideas too. Appreciate you Mike!
On the grease gun, definitely go electric and get a LockNLube grease gun coupler for the quickest greasing of all your zerks.
I agree. That's what I use. The lock n lube makes life way easier
@beardedrockinhillbilly I think you and others have convinced me. If the task is easier, it will likely get done more regularly and that is a win win for the hands and the equipment!
Friend: SAVE yer money ,& git a good quality lever& pistol grip guns. Good grease 6$ & tube & up....not that 1.99$ trash-lock-tight in a 200.°°$ New-fangled Slober-matic/ were ya NEVER KNOW the condition of the fitting. Grease often( every 2-3) hours/ after All its part of the daily inspection. Along with THOROUGHLY reading & Understanding the Opperaters Manuals before turning a "Key" on a New Machine....no matter how many you have run or owned. Best wishes with all your endeavours. Such a Great Vidio!!!!
@@donaldstrishock3923 thanks for sharing! Do you are not a fan of the electric grease guns and LockNLube setup?
Nice tractors Joe. You will love it and kick yourself for not getting it years ago. They are great boy toys. I have a used 2008 Massey GC2610 with a loader, rear grader and front mount snow blower. It is a back saver. Just follow maintenance properly and keep things greased. Be careful. I suggest you get loaded tires to increase the stability of the tractor. Have fun.
Hi Steve. I agree with you. He is going to love this machine
Thank you Steve! I am so incredibly thankful to have this machine. I actually found a critical joint that is a tad dry so I really need to get some grease in it asap. Like you said, I believe it is going to be a game changer for my family and I.
Great video as usual and congrats on the new machine! I bought a Kioti CK4020se/hst this past spring. Thankfully mine came with the “C” loader as well. I got the backhoe with it and also picked up a grapple for it. It just turned over 60hrs last week and I couldn’t be more happy with it! I’m sure your experience won’t be much different. Be safe and have fun!
Hi WV. KIOTI makes a great machine. The 4020's are fantastic work horses. Great machine you have.
@wvoutdoorsmen5887 Did you see this coming???? I did not look at machines in that size range but I bet it is sure nice having the SE madel with ALL of the options! A grapple is going to come eventually but I am VERY picky about grapples. I like them as sort of a root rake to be able to clean up all the small debris from tree work. What do you have? How is your dirt?? I actually was recently looking at Land out that way and it is VERY similar to my topography but there is much more of it available. Can we consider ourselves "lucky" to have the C loader???
I really like my Kioti CK 2610.bought it 2 years ago 👍🏻💪🏻
Hi Lyndon. Kioti makes a very high quality machine. The 2610 should last you a lifetime.
Awesome to hear! That sort of stuff puts a mans mind at ease. Can you ask you how you use your machine primarily?
I got the c k 2620 No issues.No regrets works great on my property.And the best of all no government interference
@@javiertorres7460 those are great machines your gonna love it
@@lyndonhamby7432 Mainly clearing wooded area. Storm clean ups like always. Three storms in the last two years
Both machines have great features. They are both accomplishing the same thing but they have different approaches how each manufacturer build them. Was very cool to see next to each other and compare
100%!!!! I still am not sure the TYM wouldn't have been the "better" option. So far I am VERY impressed with the KIOTI as I put it to work.
@@oakiewoodsman they both are great machines
For sure! I dug a decent stump today buddy!
Congratulations Joe. Definitely pretty cool. Looking forward to seeing this machine in action.
Mr Kenny you and me both. It's gonna be exciting to watch
So happy to have this opportunity Kenny! I am thankful to all of you for making this happen. Truly.
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead Thank you Mike!
Man you both gel really well together. Your presentation is down to earth and completely honest, something that we need to see more of. What a great idea to compare and contrast these two competing tractor makes. You both hit the ball out of the park with this 45 minute vid.
I really appreciate that! Mike and I have become good friend through YT and I am certainly appreciative that he was willing and able to drag his machine over here. We are close but just far enough to make things a bit of a chore in terms of travel. Thank you again and hope you see you around!
Awesome investment for the future! My heavy equipment experience is limited, and have no experience with compact tractors. Awesome to have a friend like Mike to walk you through it and super excited for you👍🏻
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Hey AP. This machine is going to provide invaluable work for Joe and his family for years to come. Really excited for him.
@aaronpowell4885 The amount of work and opportunity this machine is going to give to the family and to the channel is going to be a game changer. As I put time on it, I am VERY impressed with the capabilities. I cannot believe how rusty I was at using the Backhoe controls. Took a little and now I feel like it is coming back.
I need to say thank you to you and other like DR and CF for being here all of the time. You have all helped grow this channel and make this day possible. Thank you again!
👍👍 congrats on the new machine! It’s going to be nice!
Hi CF. The uses this machine can do is almost endless. Very handy to have around helping complete tasks.
Agreed, would love to get something like that, but would need a good attorney 😝
@@crazyfeller5704 lol
CF, I cannot believe it is out my window right this moment. I can thank YOU and all off the other viewers like you who have made this possible. Thank you so much for being here EVERY time. It is going to be a game changer for sure!
@@crazyfeller5704 😁, had any cats or dogs come up missing @ you CF?😏🤐
Compact tractors are SUPER handy for all sorts of projects and tasks. Now I'm the local TYM/Branson/Bad Boy mechanic. New to the brand so I still have to learn all the fine details and machine specs but they dont seem terribly difficult to work on.
Super Dave that's great. I know who to ask questions to now for my 2515h lol
Dave, the possibilities are endless! The Bad Boy machines are SUPER cool looking for sure and since they are mechanically identical, they are VERY good machines for sure. Very capable. The Bad Boy attachments are TOP Notch from what I have seen. I actually operated a Bad Boy Zero Turn just the other day. VERY impressive!
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead you two are some VERY Good mechanics. Putting your brains together would be amazing.
To me, even though same tractors the bad boy was way more comfortable.
Congratulations on your new purchase Joe! Both very dandy machines!
Thank you Ted! This is going to give us so much more capability it will be insane. Thank you as always friend!
I really like how you pointed out some differences without running the other machine down I have a ck 3510 for 3 years very happy with it I think you will be too
That comment is much appreciated because I try to do this with everything I talk about. I find that there is rarely a product that cannot be improved some way and just because a logo is on it, doesn't mean it is perfect. Thank you for being here. How do you use your machine primarily?
@@oakiewoodsman mostly firewood around the house gravel driveway I have a grapple on it a land plane
Excellent! Thank you for sharing!
Take my advice, the hydraulic pump gpm is a real positive for operating attachments that use it, the Kioti's generally have better flow rates!!
I am 100% ignorant to all of this. Thank you for sharing this will us!
Congrats on your new machine Oakie 👍👍
www.youtube.com/ much appreciated sir!
Either is a great choice.
Once you put the grapple on there, it'll be the most utulized tool on the machine. My CK2610 front wheels have the protected valve stem.
Another item you'll want right away is the "Linked Pedal" its a game changer.
Enjoy!
Thank you for sharing! Very interesting on the omission on my tractor on the valve guards. Do you think it is intentional or something else?
Congrats buddy very nice tractor having the thumb is an amazing option. You’ll love it. 👍
After seeing his thumb i can see that being extremely useful
Thank you Tom! My mind is looking all over thinking, " i can tackle that". It is a VERY good feeling. Going to help develop our property so much and help get stuff done. Oh.... the headlights are awesome man! Anyway, thank you so much for watching friend. Your house is coming together so nicely sir!
Good video. I'm a TYM owner, but I like to see comparisons, and the differences between them and other brands. Yall should have talked about the engines a bit. That TYM/Kukje A series is all mechanical, and bit easier to work on, with no ECMs or wiring harnesses to worry about. At the same time though, you don't get all the sensors a motor with an ECM has, so you have to pay more attention to how your tractor feels and sounds, to make sure you don't overheat it, or cause other issues. If you're an old tractor owner this is how it's always been, but for new tractor owners, who are only used to the vehicles they drive, sensors might make sense.
Great comment and that is certainly something that is attractive about the Branson engine. I know that initially I was very interested because of that very thing. You do bring up a good point though that unless a person is familiar with diesel operation, you may have to indeed rely upon Over error codes. If I were going to go with a larger horsepower engine, I think I would have been more inclined to go with the Kukje engine to keep it as simple as possible. Thank you so much for watching and commenting.!
This! This is the deciding factor for me. Mechanical = less things to go wrong.
I have a 3520 Kioti purchased in June 2023. This video is really a great comparison. Good job guys.
How are you liking it so far? Congratulation on your nice machine! I loving mine and putting it to MAJOR work
Great overview. I’ve owned 4 Kiotis and have been happy with them overall. Recently picked up the NS6010 and added a used KB2485 backhoe!
Thank you so much for watching Heath! I forgot that you just got that tractor and that thing is a beauty. I just watched you move some logs around with your rotating grapple. Have a good time at the show and I hope you are able to give a lot of shirts out! I have a feeling there’s gonna be a lot of HWM shirts walking around the bunion show🤣
Congratulations! You will soon wonder how you ever worked efficiently without it!
Hi Frank. I guarantee you are right.
Frank, I am thinking you are 100% correct. I have about 5 hrs on the machine right now and I have already done so much work. WOW
4 years ago I was in the market for something to take over for the JD 630 & MF 35. Did due diligence on comparisons and found Kioti to have more included options than the others. Sold the MF 35 at auction and got >$1,000 more than I bought it >20 years ago. The JD 630 .... kind-a sits in the barn looking pretty and gathers dust. Tim-the-Toolman Taylor got it right .... "More Power!!!" The Kioti RX 7420 does just that.
Awesome! Thank you for watching and thank you taking the time to share your experience! Sounds like you have two very nice tractors available to you now!
Good job, Joe. And congrats on the new tractor. I've heard a lot of good things about both of those models and operated both at the Equip Expo with Lucas. Tractor Hard. 🚜💪!
Loved watching those videos! Thanks for stopping by. This was a fun video to make for sure. So thankful to have this KIOTI on the property.
That’s impressive 120 inches on the boom height 👍
I never checked mine so I didn't have a clue what it was. I was impressed with his going to 10'
Pretty cool to be able to reach up that high. Can come in useful for sure!
I got my ck3520 Oct 2nd. I got loader grapel bushog and back hoe. I'm loving it. I'm re taking a old 40 acre farm. I've got almost 50 hrs on it now. I feel like it's getting broke in and gaining more power. Same loader as you have.
I am at 30 hrs now and have been loving EVERY minute. Make sure you check your front axel for fluid. Mine was VERY low. Go to know that it may feel a bit more stout as it breaks in.
I just got to determine the loader on my 2620cab. For a while there was a shortage of the 4030 loaders and it was hit and miss but that has now been solved I was told. The extra reach and dig depth made it the best for me but hose management with a cab sucks.
I had no clue about any of this information. I really do appreciate you stopping by and sharing your experience and your knowledge. There is always so much and sometimes even with the Internet there is very limited information in a particular spot and you really have to go looking for it. Again thank you so much for sharing
This was a fun day.
It sure was and I am Thankful that you were here for it man! No better friend to have around at such an event. Thank you so much for bringing your machine over as well. I actually learned alot from you when you were digging on my slop sir.
@@oakiewoodsman just be safe that slop can get hairy.
indeed! I was struggling a bit with it myself today.
Definitely looking forward to the other machines that you do excellent video guys thank you
Thanks for watching and letting us know you are here!
I've owned a Kioti CK2610HST for 4 years now. Just a basic machine with a set of rear remotes. Wish I would have gotten the 3rd function. I looked at RK, JD, and Kubota. All local dealers but Kioti was the only one that seemed to want to make a sell. I've worked this machine hard and it just keeps going.
Great to hear! That was also part of my experience. They were the ones most ready with actual numbers for me. Played a part in my purchase for sure. Thank you for sharing
I am very happy that you gentleman had both units to compare. I am currently trying to decide which of those tractors I am going to purchase. Love the comparison, thank you!
You are very welcome! Good luck on your decision. It is super tough to do so and I hope Mike and I helped you out in your research. Appreciate you watching and commenting!
Excellent machines gentleman!
I feel both are in the top of their class for this size machine
Thank you @faithfulfarmadventures! I know you deal in a lot of auction type stuff and larger ag stuff. Do you have a compact Tractor? I have trouble keeping everyone equipment straight.
@@oakiewoodsmanI had a Deere 3025e that I put 1200 hrs on with no problems. I’m in the market for another 25 hp tractor and it definitely won’t be a Deere the lift capacity is garbage, 2 speed hydrastat and a few other negative things that make the “other” brands way more attractive.
Excellent! I did LOTS of work with this machine today. A linked pedal could come in handy at times but overall, super happy with the performance of the this machine and the Backhoe is FANTASTIC! Good workout today!
@@oakiewoodsman That’s awesome!
Nice tractor! Jason wanted to watch this morning after seeing you on Mike's video. We've been subbed a while but busy busy as you may know! Mike is a great guy and we watch him all the time! Jason has a lot of experience working with and on tractors his whole life. You guys are doing awesome. Fantastic collaboration guys!
Thank you for stopping by and commenting! I appreciate that very much cause that is the lifeblood of a channel. Mike is a great friend and I am glad to know him!
Great video guys! Nice to see such a detailed side by side. I’m leaning more toward the Kioti, but i have more research to do. Thanks.
Good luck! I think you will enjoy either one for sure!
Great video comparison. I've been subbed to Rusty Garage for a little while as I have the TYM 2515h. Congrats on your purchase of your new tractor!
I sure appreciate you stopping by and watching! Mike is a real good friend of mine and we do videos together and will do more in the future. You have a wonderful tractor and I hope you enjoy it. We are getting a ton of work done over here, and we are less farming, oriented, and more building and property developing oriented on our 12 acres of wooded land.
Nice review! I had ordered a Kioti CK4020 about the time this video was released, and the TYM was next on my list. Since I didn't need the backhoe, I splurged and spent $$$ on the cab SE model instead. No regrets at this time, but I still have implements on order and yet to arrive before I really get into using it. Primary job will be a 66" hammer flail and wood chipper, so went with the 40hp for some extra PTO power. A plus for your Kioti CK2620 choice over the TYM is the ability to up it closer to 35hp if you know to search YT videos on how easy that may be while still having no DPF system to worry about. Another difference I really like is the controls next to the seat, with arm rests for support, without having to reach out all day. I guess running 100 hours or so on a John Deire (new correct spelling since they came out of the DEI closet, thanks to Robby Starbucks) 110 TLB hydrostat spoiled me a few years ago!
hahahaha! Thanks for the great comment! Yes, I am aware of the ability to turn it up! I am going to get through my warranty period. How do you like your machine???? You sure got a nice one!
Great video young men!! Congratulations on your new kioti tractor!! Well I had a 1526 mahindra my cousin sold Branson tractors he talked me into getting a 2515 Branson the way I use a tractor it just didn't feel safe to me I loaded the tires with finish mower my 2 granddaughters in the bucket it actually broke traction in yard. If I had more weight on 3 point there no doubt it was a good tractor. I got a 1626 mahindra 3 years ago. Just traded for a new kioti ck3520se tractor I truly love the tractor so comfortable with work the way I do. Wanted the 2620 but dealer didn't have it in shuttle shift I personally didn't want hydrostat drove big truck to many years. Didn't really want the regen stuff but it is amazing the differences 10 hp makes. Thanks for sharing ya'll be safe enjoy.
Great story! I appreciate you watching and taking the time to share with is all. I originally was going to buy a non hydrostat but nearly everyone talked me out of it due to my intended usage and property topography. I drive a manual transmission truck and love it but with the lack of fields, mowing and clear space, I decided to go with this unit. Again, thank you for being here!
Awesome machines! Thanks to both you for so much information!!
Thanks Mark! Hope you are well man. This is changing our capabilities tremendously!
Nice tractor, I love my Kioti tractor
I forgot you had one! Thank you so much for stopping by!
Nice machines 👍👏
Thank you Living the dream. They sure make everyday tasks alot easier.
Thank you so much!
Well done. I appreciate the comparison. I looked at these two brands, Kubota, and Mahindra before I landed on a Deere. IMO, there was no comparison once I sat in the seat of the Deere. Much more stable, able and comfortable. I had to pay up, but I’m in it for the long haul and Deere was the only choice for me.
Thanks for sharing. Capacity was the primary issue for me and I think many others. JD and Kubota have superior hydraulics for sure! Thank you again and enjoy your beautiful tractor
This is the exact video i was looking for...Thank you!
You are very welcome and I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and then share! That is what makes this whole world function and I appreciate it tremendously. Are you leaning any particular direction?
Literally ordered this exact setup about an hour ago. Trading off my green paint for some actual power.
Did you buy both of the tractors?🤣 in all seriousness, which one did you get?
For two country boys with a cell phone this is a great video. What an awesome idea for a video, it would cool if you had 5-8 brands in this same size as a buyers guide. Very interesting, good job
Thank you for watching....... we do have GoPros and DJI Actions cams as well..... hahaha
Super Awesome Video. Thanks for all the excellent info and insight
You are very welcome! I really appreciate you stopping by and watching and taking the time to comment. Many people watch, but don’t and it means a lot to me. Thank you again.
This was a great video! An actual comparison!
Thank you! Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment!
Im glad i bought the Tym 474 cab tractor because when i compared this tractor with Kubota and kioti... Tym came out on top.But its good to see a video like this you guys made some very got points on both tractors.
Thanks for sharing and hope you enjoy your excellent tractor!
Very interesting!! I'm in the market for a tractor right now!! Great video!
Hi IowaPerformanceSaws.
Look at as many as you cam and compare features. If your looking for the large frame 25hp machine like these two I feel these two are leading the class with price, capabilities, and features.
Good luck shopping. Let us know what you end up with
Your Farm is so beautiful! What size machine are you thinking about. Have you been researching for some time?
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead great tip Mike! I agree with you on the selection on these two machine. There truly was no "reason" for me to look elsewhere once Price and capability were factored in. I do wish my dealer were a bit closer however. Lets just hope the machine doesn't need to go back there many times in the future.
The KL4030 has slightly less lift capacity, but has better reach beyond the front of the tractor at full height. If a dealer does enough volume they wouldn't have a problem giving you the loader you preferred. We build the units from crate and have dozens of CK's here with different loaders. You shouldn't be stuck with one option.
Thank you for the clarification! While it would be fantastic to have a high volume dealer nearby, I do not but that makes sense that there may some swapping being able to occur. Are you able to order whatever loader you wish are do you just swap as needed?
@@oakiewoodsman We don't know which loader we'll get, and I have a feeling we'll stop seeing the KL4030C soon, but right now we have enough of both to allow the customer to choose. It's not that much of a difference in performance for most to be bothered.
Awesome! Is the “C” made in Canada?
@@oakiewoodsman No, it's made for Canada. All the loaders are made in Korea, but different models are sometimes made for different markets. A good example would be the Australian Kioti loaders all having self leveling. There are plans for a North American Kioti plant that would likely produce things like that over here, but nothing yet.
very interesting! I wonder why they have determined the Canadian market would need a shorter loader reach? I love it personally. I have spend a bunch of times working in the woods and greatly appreciate a shorter front end especially with the backhoe on the machine. I am super impressed!
Both great little machines. I don’t think you could really go wrong with either one. Have fun with your new toy………. I mean tool.
hahaha hey Russ yes "tool". I'm excited for Joe. I know this machine will change the way he does a lot of things around his place. Its going to make his life and his family's life a lot easier.
hahahahaha.... tools are also Toys! That is one of the best parts of being a property owner, a RUclipsr and all the rest! FUN STUFF! Keep up the good work Russ!
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead literally my wife just came in a told me she wants me to do a regular Tractor session with the boys about maintenance, usage etc! This will for sure change the way we operate and honestly, will change ours lives for a lifetime!
@@oakiewoodsman i agree. I still need to go over everything with my oldest. I've been meaning to just haven't got it done yet
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead my 11 yr old found some loose bolts today. 10.5 hrs on the clock already!
I bought a 2515R 3 years ago...when it was Branson, before the huge price hikes.
Have the prices gone way up? I was looking about when your purchased. Thanks for sharing! Has it been really good for ya? Any complaints, anything you love?
The 4030 loader has more breakout force and reach at full height compared to 4030c.
So the branson 2515 parking break is better. You can use just your feet to set it similar to the kioti.
Thanks for the comparison!
Hi JT. That's good information. I honestly didn't know they had two different loaders untill we started digging in the specs.
I will try that. I haven't used my foot on my parking brake before. My o ly worry is it's about one inch from the floor board and would I have to use me heel or just turn around to use my toes. I'll give it a go because it's a huge pain to use your hand
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead well, the older branson models its a latch that fits into slots that is right near/on the brake pedal. Keeps the pedal depressed is all. Thought the newer version on tym was better, but I guess not! Haha
Very good information! Thank you for sharing!
@TheRustyGarageandHomestead This is intersting. Will be waiting to see what you find man
@Jtwizzle jt i would take a latch lol. This is fine it's just a pain to reach all the way down to the floor board
The “C” on the loader means it is compatible with “Cab” versions. (Higher lift capacity because of less reach). C loader can fit on ROPS, so you will see both, where the cab models have to have the C loader or it will hit the cab.
I had not heard that yet and I really appreciate you jumping in here with that information. I had heard it was a regional thing and the “c” stood for Canada. I was scratching my head trying to figure out why they would be specked differently with different reach and capacities. This however, seems to make quite a bit of sense and I would like to find out more about it. Thank you so much!
After all the problems with my RK55, I would go with the Kioti.
Sorry you have had so many problems with your Rural King tractor!
It’s always better having a swing seat. getting off and on every time to go forward or backwards. Yes you can move with the hoe itself but swing seat is just so much better. hell can’t tell you how many times didn’t even plan on using the hoe and seen something and just stopped and used the hoe really quick and it’s so nice not have to get off the machine.
Thank you for watching in commenting. Keep in mind that there is always something better for more money. Please let me know a machine in this capacity and at this price that has every feature perfectly laid out. Plus my two young boys love sitting in that driver seat and moving me back-and-forth as I stay on the backhoe.
I bought a Kioti 4210SE. It has the loader but no backhoe. (Which i wish I had gotten with it). The only thing I have not liked about the Kioti is the pre- screen on the radiator! The screen openings are to large. I use mine to do a lot of mowing and brush hogging. And the grass and seeds that being stirred up plug the radiator 😮up quite often! Causing me to have to stop and wash out the radiator quite a fee times year! Other than that the Kioti had been an amazing purchase. I've never been on a Branson tractor. But I am going to purchase a smaller machine and I am sure I will buy another Kioti! Even though I have family working at our local John Deere dealership! And I can get a discount on a green machine. I will still opt for the Kioti. I grow a commercial garden here on our farm and it's not disappointed me at all yet!
fantastic news! I love hearing this stuff and I love it when people have legitimate things that could be improved. That is good for everyone to see so they can actually get a heart beat of how people really like their machines. Buying a tractor is a big deal and I feel as if I made a good choice. However, people like you with more experience are where the "review" truly is available. I appreciate you taking the time to share this with everyone including myself.
That's a great collaboration video. I'm looking at the same 2 machines, this is exactly what I wanted to see. Loved the ergonomics section. Both have what I would call advantages over the other in different aspects, but both are completely capable. Similar warranties, similar in price. I need more ground clearance - would be interesting to know which is higher including subframe which drops down quite a bit on both. Did you see a beafyness difference in how the backhoes attached to their subframes. I like that you don't have to take 3-pt off on Kioti to attach backhoe. Thanks for posting
I think either is a good machine but it looked as if the TYM had a little less clearance near the middle of the machine but I really cannot give you an accurate answer on that one. Thanks for watching and sharing and good luck on your decision!
i also run my valve stems to inside. can be a pain sometimes but way more protected
I am totally ignorant here. I’m gonna ask quite possibly a dumb question. How do you do that?
Thanks I enjoyed this video (first time viewer). it is IMO a very good comparison between these two machines. However I personally need and am looking for something larger. A utility tractor in the 70-90 engine h.p. size range. 4wd with a loader, 2 rear remotes and 3rd function hyd. on the loader. I do not need a backhoe. I do have the extra girth that really appreciates ergonomics.
Thanks for watching and good luck on your search!
Excellent comparison! I am making a decison between these two tractors. Appreciate the insight!
Do you have one that you are leaning towards? I think you will be a very happy owner of whatever one your pick! What is going to be your primary usage?
@@oakiewoodsman I have a long gravel drive and small gravel lot that needs attention. I also have some dirt work at my house I plan to do this fall. Next spring, I plan to bushhog, till, and plant a sunflower field for doves this spring and leaning toward a 35 or 40 engine. I maintain some trails which I am currently using my zero turn. I was just at the Kioti dealer about 15 min. from my house and he confirmed your statement regarding the loader from Canada. Because of the dealership being close, I am leaning towards the Kioti but nearly pulled the trigger on a TYM last month. To be honest, if the TYM dealer was closer, it would be a tough decision but....I think the Kioti in the 20SE series has a lot a feature which edges out the TYM.
I would also like your opinion on going with the large engine
@georgeharper6034 i bet you will love it. Of the dealer is right there, that makes a lot of sense. Kubota was my closest dealer but simply couldn’t justify the cost and lack of specs.
The clutch pedal is much nicer for running the pto, it allows you to start the implement gently and also works better if you are running an auger.
Awesome! I really appreciate you taking the time to share and watch to that point in the video. Very good for myself and anyone else who is watching that simply does not know.
You all should try setting the parking break on a 8N :)
hahahahaha.... but in all fairness, a pristine 8N is nowhere near the price of these two modern machines. Thank you for watching and sharing. Please tell me why the 8N is so difficult if you do not mind
@@oakiewoodsman Rather than trying to explain it I made a short video . But now it looks like there is no way for me to upload it as a reply so I will try to explain. The 8N has the right and left foot break petals both on the right side and they are a fairly solid linkage that turns a shaft that goes straight into the break drum expanding the shoes. This shaft runs right along the rear axle and is supported at both ends by the break housing at one end and the transfer case housing at the other. Attached to the shaft at the transfer case end is what could be described as a large ratchet pawl and on the case housing is plate with a row of teeth along one side. So to put on the parking break you push down on the break pedal and then reach down under the seat next to the rear axle and turn the ratchet pawl into the teeth to lock it in place. Then you can release the break pedal and the break will stay on and you hope it is tight enough to hold . If you want or need both breaks on you need to then do the same thing for the other side. To release you just need to push on the break peddle an let it up. The hardest part of that is remembering to do it because the tractor has more than enough power to move with the break on with only a slight loss in power feeling and this will ware out your break shoes quick. Go ahead ask me how I know! :)
I must say I like the Kioti's method the best of the 2 but the TYM's is still not that bad. 😁
Such a great video i had to watch it again
Thank you, buddy!
both seem to be really good machines tough choice
I do not believe a person could go wrong with either. I would be lying if I said color didn’t play a role in the decision 😉
They used to sell the Kioti backhoe on the TYM. Make sure you check the bolts on the backhoe. Wow the handbrakes are bad on these not that I use them I just open the bucket and use the back edge.
you know... I do believe I forgot those ones so I surely appreciate you mentioning this to me. I did not know that TYM sourced some parts from Kioti before. Thanks for the information!
Yea i like the mat, safer and finishes it out nicely
I would kind of like to have one for sure! I wish the darn tractor would’ve just come with it though
Good news bad news. Bad news, I ended up with the 4030 loader. Good news, it still has one of the highest lift capacities in the industry and all the lift capacity I need it for. 🚜
Hey rockin hillbilly. I think the 4030 is just fine and most people won't notice the difference in capacity. The Kioti is a great machine all around and like you said it is one of the top machines in this class with its lift capacity. Thank you for being here
@beardedrockinhillbilly but I am seeing that there are some specs on it that are actually better in some regards. May not be actually much of an "issue" but on paper, it seems nice to have the extra capacity. How long ago did you get your machine and what are your primary uses? Thank you so much for being here and sharing!
@@oakiewoodsman A week and a half ago. Just a hair under 5 acres, 2 wooded 3 lawn/pasture. I tried to do the buy once cry once, offset ditch bank mower, land plane, grapple, stump bucket, pallet forks. The only thing I didn't get yet is the tiller I want. I'm hoping I can pick up a used one in good shape next spring on a good deal. Just hobby farming and property maintenance for now, although I might get into planing gravel driveways and tilling gardens / food plots in a year or so as a side hustle. 🚜
@beardedrockinhillbilly Very cool indeed! I just put some more time on this machine today and I am extremely impressed with all that I am putting it through. Congrats on the new purchase and it sounds like you got a great setup for sure. Hope to see ya around and please let me know how the machine is treating ya sometime down the road.
I just got the 4030 on my new 2620 cab. Ordered it for the extra foot of reach when loading trucks and the heavier duty quick attach assembly. It looses some capacity but it has an extra 100 pounds of steel over the C
A backhoe on a tractor like that I think is more trouble than it's worth.I've got a tractor that has a gannon and box on the back very handy and then.I also bought a used tac ocean excavator it's got the little plow on the front.That thing is great.I use it more than the tractor
I would much rather have a mini ex and a CTL. Someday! This is the budget option and I am VERY happy with it! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Would lowering the out rigger make it easier to get on/backhoe? I’m not familiar with either Manufacturer, so I’m not sure if you’re able to operate outriggers from the ground?
I am not sure it would make it easier but standard practice I do believe is to be in the seated position before lowering them. I have of course done if from outside of the machine but that could certainly put you in harms way of you were to set the pad in your foot or maybe the machine could shift. My KIOTI is very easy to enter and exit!
Dang, that stretch. Looks like you may need to try getting some stretches in. That honestly does look super uncomfortable to set that break. I don’t think I could do it. 😂
The parking brake lever is awful. You do get a good stretch releasing it and setting it.
For sure! It definitely let me know my hams were tight!
You know mike, I am going to use mine quite a bit with the hills but I could see on your property, just not needing to activate it as often.
After looking at tym, I had decided to go with bad boy. It was way more comfortable. Will have to look at kioti though first.
I think they are both great tractors and with everything, each will have some advantages and disadvantages. So far I have been very impressed with my machine. I have moved lots of dirt/rock, did stumps etc. The factory linked pedal on the TYM would certainly be welcome but when Ibam pushing dirt, run it in Low with the throttle up anyway. Thanks for watching and make sure you check out my other tractor videos.
pump grease gun with adjustable volume /pressure tab and lock n load tip. if u keep up with your maintenance .
Thanks for sharing. There will be an update on this coming very shortly. I will have to say that I did struggle a little bit. I also need to say that I was not new at greasing equipment, but this situation was unexpected.
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If I had been a cash buyer, I would have considered it. The market is such where the incentives are so good on financing right now that it simply didn’t make sense to try to piece together a used package exactly like I wanted. I really appreciate your comment and had I purchased used I wouldn’t have been able to make this comparison video. 😉
@@oakiewoodsman .. Thank You for replying so quickly .. 👍👍
Appreciate the comment!
Wow. Have never had a problem with the Kubota lines. Never let me down ever. But those tractors are probably great to just take care of them they'll last a long Time
Can I ask what you are referring to? I have forgotten the whole conversation in this video. Appreciate you sharing and really like Kubota Machines too!
Vevor High pressure, quick lock, air grease gun is great if you have compressed air available. Think it's only like $29
With air readily available, that would be a fantastic option! Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I have a solution coming, hopefully on Tuesday.
I wish you had compared engines. I've heard that the TYM is simple with no computer, etc. to tear up down the road. Would like to know about the Kioti engine components.
I am fairly certain this 25 HP machine is also all mechanical as well. Since I am not yet an expert on it we just couldn't really speak about it much. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
Just for clarification - Do you have a CK2620H (hydrostatic transmission), or the CK2620 (9-speed manual transmission)? The "H" of 2515H usually indicates a hydrostatic transmission on the TYM model.
Hi Driftless. Yes his is the hydro model
Thank you DH! Very true. Mine is the "HST" model as denoted under the CK2620 on the hood. Always thankful for your examining eye friend!
GREASE GUN: definitely go with electric. I have the Milwaukee 18v and it was worth the money. Having it makes me grease as much as I should, where doing it with a manual pump, I found myself neglecting it more. Any machine that has 10+ grease points, you will be happy you went electric.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to write out that comment! That’s what I was kind of thinking is that if it were easy, I would do it more often. Putting the different connector on my grease gun has certainly helped but does have a learning curve to it. Thank you for watching!
Clutch is good as you can control your PTO engagement
Ah! Thank you so much for the information. You are the first one to address that.!
@oakiewoodsman yea I have the bobcat version and use a tiller and flail mower on it.
I really like the color scheme on the Bobcat machines. Thanks for writing back!
I would never have either one. I have looked at Kioti before. I was not pleased with how the backhoe hooked up to the tractor. Looks like the TYM has the same setup. JD & Kubota backhoes are closer to the tractor. I have a 42 hp kubota but did not get a backhoe. I didn't have plans to use such implement. I prefer an excavator over backhoe.
I hear ya but neither of those options make sense. $10k more plus far less capable. When they get their specs equal, then they can charge their premium for the name, resale value and superior hydraulics. I prefer the Kubota Hydraulic operation over my tractor 100%. But again for nearly 2k lbs of lift and 10k less, I will take KIOTI any day. Even if I could have afforded the Kubota, it still didn't left enough. If my pocket book were that thick, I would buy and CTL and Mine EX instead. Thanks for sharing
I just bought a CK2620 everyone talks about convienence of loader control on fender, but I catch myself bumping it with my knee everytime i look back over my shoulder at whats going on behind tractor. I dont realize whats going on until front end is up in air.
I have got to ask how this is occuring? Are you a very tall person where your knee is up all they way up? I turn around all the time and have not even come close to this occuring. Thank you for sharing and I hope you figure out a solution to your trouble!
Both look like good machine. It would be hard to make a decision
Time will tell and you are 100% correct!
I have a bobcat, which is basically a coyote and mine has the protectors on the valve stems on the front so maybe it was just a quality controlled problem
Hey Mr Todd. It is possible. I thought it was strange that the rears had it and not the fronts
@@TheRustyGarageandHomestead what was the price difference from yours and his ? I do like the placement of the loader handle on mine and the dokie oakie guys way better. That and the 2 foot petals are what sold me on my ct2040 . I do wish I had a backhoe . I'm switching implements quite often so I'm not sure if I want to do that , almost every day I switch my front bucket to forks or my grapple . I use my tractor almost every day . I really would be lost without it. I move lots of pallets to totes to wood building supplies everything, I bet I use the forks more than the bucket . Now we clean ( I sit on tractor watching RUclips ) the 5 chicken coops , 1 duck house & 1 goat house out at least every 2 weeks in a rotation so she will clean a couple every weekend. Well great job u2 I was always wondering how he does it without a tractor , his life is going to get much easier now . Especially with the wood . I move trailers around all the time with my tractor I have 16 of them I think. We'll likely I said great job
@toddcaskey9984 thank you Mr Todd. The price was very close with each other. Idk if Joe wants to share that or not.
Also you have to consider these machines have a cash price and a financing price that can change a machines price by a few thousand.
Both machines have different positives over the other. They both, I think are equally great and capable machines. I think once he gets going this is going to be a daily use machine for him around his homestead with the things he does.
16 trailers is alot of trailers lol I thought I had several.
Todd, did you say 16 trailers!!!!!!!!!!!
@toddcaskey9984 that is very interesting. I will try to take a look and see if the older units or other units the little guard on the valve stem. Hmmmmmm. Never thought about that as a possibility.
Thanks for the reviews. I was leaning towards Kioti. I went to the site and did a build, holy @#$%. I am at $40,000 with just a front loader and backhoe. Definitely not inexpensive. Thanks. Might be looking at used, lol.
you need to talk to a dealer, mine was nowhere near that! Thanks for watching!
26 is the way to go, easy to turn the HP up to 35.
I am hearing all sorts of things about that! I accidentally made this choice so I can count myself lucky for sure! Thank you for watching and commenting!
Extension handle on the tym brake handle?
I am not sure if it would be possible. I wonder if Mike has thought of a way?
@@oakiewoodsman Oh yes i keep trying to think of a way to fix this issue lol
Glad you saw that man!
Nothing compares to Kubota for quality and resale. 😊
I do know about that because I am a Toyota vehicle owner. The only problem is is the specs are severely lacking on the orange tractor. Kinda like when you need a 1 ton truck Toyota doesn’t have an option for you. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Personally I don't like automatic PTO because down the road I'll choose u-joints over the clutch any day of the week, twice on Sunday. Even if I need to do u-joints 10 times more often, that's preferable to the clutch. Just my perspective.
All out of my realm of knowledge so I sure appreciate you sharing this bit of information. So much can be learned from a comment like this. Thank you again!
Definitely electric grease gun and the lock n lube , i have a 2023 4210 se kioti , my iron craft grapple stays on 95% of the time , love my machine
That Lock N Lube is going to be critical! I got an electric gun today and 2 fittings broke as I pulled the regular end off. They appear to be brass on this machine. Not sure what the heck and why. Thank you much!
@@oakiewoodsman i think they’re brass so there’s no risk of damage to the threads , easily replaced , recommend to go back with brass
That makes total sense. If it gets impacted, the side pressure should mess up the threads on the machine. Will easily be remedied with a lock and lube setup.
As far as foot board could always get the sand paper tape they use on boat trailer fenders cant remember exactly what it is called but its alot like the grip tape on skateboards
We have the branson 4515r and as a 300lb guy i feel the squeeze especially setting the brake😂
That could be a very good option for sure! Thank you for sharing that bit of information. Since we have had some rain, the metal does indeed get a bit slick when wet.
One thing that I’m seeing more and more of with backhoe attachments that are annoying to me is when the backhoe is locked up into its transport lock position…. Many of them don’t pull up into a vertical’s position. They are always hanging low at a 30 degree angle from being vertical. I have a JD 3046R Cab tractor… I love the vertical transport posistion. However I do wish it had heavier duty swing cylinders and heavier duty stabilizer cylinders. As well as the releasable latch lock. But my boom and dipper and bucket have plenty of power. There is a newer generation of my 375a backhoe that fixed the anemic swing pistons, and stabilizer pistons. And the newer generation also has way less side to side wobble that I’ve experienced with mine.
Thanks for sharing!
The issue with a lot of equiptmen is after 10 years they stop making parts . I had this issue with a Mahindra
So are you saying that if you buy a year nine machine you lose support in one year? I really appreciate you watching but I think that it probably depends quite a bit on the numbers of that particular model sold. I think that some brands have better or worse parts support in a can certainly come back to bite you. Did you ever get it figured out with your Mahindra?
dealer is the key js ty
Thanks for watching and sharing!