My local kubota dealer did me a great service. They were so shitty and shady they lost an easy sale. So I went and found Kioti 30 miles down the road -bought a tractor in about 10 minutes. It’s better and cheaper in every way. The dealer is amazing. Thank you Crystal Tractor in Chiefland Florida for making me a Kioti guy.
The higher capacities, performance and extras included on the Kioti on top of being thousands of dollars cheaper beats Kubota for me. I was looking at a new Kubota LX4020 with a cab, loader, grapple, rear blade, pallet forks and post hole digger and the dealer wanted $60k! I priced a Kioto CK3520SE Cab HST with the same attachments and it was a $42k...It just seems to me that Kubota is just being greedy.
Never knew you had a channel, is this the Kioti dealer over at the end of old Taylor mill?? Independence?? I drove by a few years back looking to see Kubota and saw Kioti and that’s the first I knew we had a local Kioti dealer.
You're going to find that most dealers don't post pricing at all because it takes a MONUMENTAL effort to keep all that stuff current and accurate all year long. If they, do they might post MSRP, but I couldn't tell you i've ever seen a dealer actually selling at MSRP. The market is to competitive for that. If you look at our website you won't see MSRP. You'll see accurate sale pricing that's around 20% less than MSRP, and i'd guess falls in line with where most dealers around the country are.
This is a good video. I've got a Kubota that I'm happy with, and my dealer is only 15 minutes up the road vs. my nearest Kioti dealer which is at least 90 minutes one way. Having the dealer nearby has saved me a few times getting back up and running same day; if I had a Kioti dealer within spitting distance like my Kubota, I'd probably have a Kioti outside instead. I didn't know that they were Kioti-built from the ground up like Kubota; that was a huge selling point for me over the guys in green, given the headaches I've had with other equipment built by multiple outfits.
What?! Kubotas are supposed to be completely trouble free! But seriously, you're right on the money. Dealer service and support are the most important factor. All equipment will have some sort of problem every once and awhile.
It definitely slows down when functions are split, where the Kubota isn't as noticeable, and the Kioti dual functions are harder to find. Deciding between ease of use on the loader and raw power is the biggest trade off.
What do you think about the kioti ck2620 and the kubota l2502 Are those compatible machines? And if they are, the price point is definitely way apart. But I want to know about the motor and transmission on the kioti have you had any problems with it
The comparison between both of those is very similar to the models mentioned in this video. I will say the CK2620 open station doesn't currently have an "SE" version, which will lower the price. The motor/tranny are very problem free. Being a pre-emissions model, it's an engine Kioti has had for a long time with few changes. It's the most popular model in their lineup for a reason!
@@kentonequipment4687I’m back and forth between a ck2520 and a 3520. I have 12 acres. Mostly wooded, with a 1/4 mile driveway. Which would be a better purchase for me? I want the 25 to save money but I’ve been told to always go bigger if I can. Is the 35hp really worth it over the 25?
This was a VERY good comparison of the CK Se Kioti to the Kubota L 02 classes of Compact tractors. With the " WIN" clearly going to Kioti CK Se's. The Kubota has the "Spilt-brakes" & it is the only "Real plus". ( l do have a bigger Kubota/ a MX,& its Great,reliable...but primitave ; just like the L series Kubota. Kubota just doesn't have Amplifying Bucket-linkage assembly's, or Modern stearing( they use diagonal unprotected link bars HANGING out in Front Purely UNPROTECTED, & that "Goofy-Old-School" & Clunky Loader valve just "Hanging-out-there" BLOCKING lots of Visability,& Eliminateing Right-side access& egress. Kubota's Prices are WAY out of Line,& are living Off of their "market-share name"... they are good tractors / BUT So are ALLLL the Rest. Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio and happy safe tractoring. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
The Kubota standard L’s are so uninspiring. I need a tractor with rear remotes and a third function. That adds thousands to the price of the already expensive Kubota.
The real question is, what is the average time for a tractor owner before they decide to go bigger and trade or sell the tractor? The answer to that helps determine lifetime savings or present savings
I assume you're saying the Kubota would cost less over time. For our local customers we extend the powertrain warranty out to 10 years. We saw so little issues after 20 years we decided to include it for free. Thanks for watching!
It can vary widely. Some owners will do as much as 500-600 hours a year of hard use. They'd be lucky to get one to 10 years without major replacement parts. Most people won't pass 100-200hrs of use a year. They should see 15-20 years of use without major powertrain problems. 3,000hrs is a good metric to use, assuming the tractor has been maintained well.@@curtc.721
I love both, both are great tractors but I don’t see needing to buy another tractor, my 1988 Kubota L2850 needs nothing and never misses a beat. That says something about at least the old Kubotas. I could only wish I was able to shop for a new tractor.
I ended up with a john deere x700 series because I wanted a gas powered. Yes diesel is better I know. Gas is just what I use for all my equipment. Saves accidental wrong fuel mishaps.
When is Kioti going to make and offer a TLB . Without asking a outrageous over price? The price of the L47 and M62 kubota is ridiculous. I can buy a JD410 "real" backhoe a couple years old for the same price.
Probly not going to happen. The compact TLB construction market is quickly being replaced with track loaders and mini excavators. It would be a waste of resources.
@@kentonequipment4687 ? So buy 2 pieces of equipment to do the job instead of 1. A TLB is the better way to go! 1 machine that does it all. I am a retired professional operator with 35 years in the trade. Give me a good backhoe and I'll out do these track loaders and mini excavators all day.
After looking at CF moto that doesn't look like a fair comparison at all. What's funny is, American and German car and tractor companies used to say these things about Japanese brands. Now the Japanese are saying it about Korea. Time will tell for sure.
And in 40 years will be safe to say the kubota will still be going, with plenty of parts support and dealer support. Who knows what's going to happen to kioti in 10 years, let alone 40+.
I tried both and went with the Kioti 4020 SE because it was cheaper with more extras. I have had it 6 months and really like it.
The turn radius of the kioti is amazingly tight. Great for confined areas or the woods.
My local kubota dealer did me a great service. They were so shitty and shady they lost an easy sale. So I went and found Kioti 30 miles down the road -bought a tractor in about 10 minutes. It’s better and cheaper in every way. The dealer is amazing. Thank you Crystal Tractor in Chiefland Florida for making me a Kioti guy.
funny about a two years ago i had issues with Chiefland Crystal and will never do business with them
@@caputoskubota337 not surprised. They seem about as shady as you can be.
The higher capacities, performance and extras included on the Kioti on top of being thousands of dollars cheaper beats Kubota for me. I was looking at a new Kubota LX4020 with a cab, loader, grapple, rear blade, pallet forks and post hole digger and the dealer wanted $60k! I priced a Kioto CK3520SE Cab HST with the same attachments and it was a $42k...It just seems to me that Kubota is just being greedy.
Did my research, went with the Kubota Grand L6060
Never knew you had a channel, is this the Kioti dealer over at the end of old Taylor mill?? Independence?? I drove by a few years back looking to see Kubota and saw Kioti and that’s the first I knew we had a local Kioti dealer.
Guilty! We were a Kubota dealer for 30 years, and have had Kioti almost 20 now.
I pick up my Kioti 2620 tomorrow 😀😀😀
Do Kioti dealers negotiate off the web msrp prices or is it one of those no haggle deals?
You're going to find that most dealers don't post pricing at all because it takes a MONUMENTAL effort to keep all that stuff current and accurate all year long. If they, do they might post MSRP, but I couldn't tell you i've ever seen a dealer actually selling at MSRP. The market is to competitive for that. If you look at our website you won't see MSRP. You'll see accurate sale pricing that's around 20% less than MSRP, and i'd guess falls in line with where most dealers around the country are.
This is a good video. I've got a Kubota that I'm happy with, and my dealer is only 15 minutes up the road vs. my nearest Kioti dealer which is at least 90 minutes one way. Having the dealer nearby has saved me a few times getting back up and running same day; if I had a Kioti dealer within spitting distance like my Kubota, I'd probably have a Kioti outside instead. I didn't know that they were Kioti-built from the ground up like Kubota; that was a huge selling point for me over the guys in green, given the headaches I've had with other equipment built by multiple outfits.
What?! Kubotas are supposed to be completely trouble free! But seriously, you're right on the money. Dealer service and support are the most important factor. All equipment will have some sort of problem every once and awhile.
How does the hydraulic flow work when splitting functions? Lift and roll, dump and roll, etc? Kioti vs Kubota
It definitely slows down when functions are split, where the Kubota isn't as noticeable, and the Kioti dual functions are harder to find. Deciding between ease of use on the loader and raw power is the biggest trade off.
What do you think about the kioti ck2620 and the kubota l2502 Are those compatible machines? And if they are, the price point is definitely way apart. But I want to know about the motor and transmission on the kioti have you had any problems with it
The comparison between both of those is very similar to the models mentioned in this video. I will say the CK2620 open station doesn't currently have an "SE" version, which will lower the price. The motor/tranny are very problem free. Being a pre-emissions model, it's an engine Kioti has had for a long time with few changes. It's the most popular model in their lineup for a reason!
@@kentonequipment4687 Thanks
@@kentonequipment4687I’m back and forth between a ck2520 and a 3520. I have 12 acres. Mostly wooded, with a 1/4 mile driveway. Which would be a better purchase for me? I want the 25 to save money but I’ve been told to always go bigger if I can. Is the 35hp really worth it over the 25?
Isn't the hydraulic oil flow much higher on the Kioti tractor which would make it better for attachments that are hydraulically driven
It's about 1GPM higher. Not a ton, but about 15% by the numbers.
This was a VERY good comparison of the CK Se Kioti to the Kubota L 02 classes of Compact tractors. With the " WIN" clearly going to Kioti CK Se's. The Kubota has the "Spilt-brakes" & it is the only "Real plus". ( l do have a bigger Kubota/ a MX,& its Great,reliable...but primitave ; just like the L series Kubota. Kubota just doesn't have Amplifying Bucket-linkage assembly's, or Modern stearing( they use diagonal unprotected link bars HANGING out in Front Purely UNPROTECTED, & that "Goofy-Old-School" & Clunky Loader valve just "Hanging-out-there" BLOCKING lots of Visability,& Eliminateing Right-side access& egress. Kubota's Prices are WAY out of Line,& are living Off of their "market-share name"... they are good tractors / BUT So are ALLLL the Rest. Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio and happy safe tractoring. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
Does the Kioti have a float function on the loader that opens the valve to float on the ground?
It does
@@kentonequipment4687 thank you, I wasn’t aware of that feature.
The Kubota standard L’s are so uninspiring. I need a tractor with rear remotes and a third function. That adds thousands to the price of the already expensive Kubota.
The real question is, what is the average time for a tractor owner before they decide to go bigger and trade or sell the tractor? The answer to that helps determine lifetime savings or present savings
I assume you're saying the Kubota would cost less over time. For our local customers we extend the powertrain warranty out to 10 years. We saw so little issues after 20 years we decided to include it for free. Thanks for watching!
@kentonequipment4687thank you for the reply. From your experience, what is the average life for an owner with a compact tractor?
It can vary widely. Some owners will do as much as 500-600 hours a year of hard use. They'd be lucky to get one to 10 years without major replacement parts. Most people won't pass 100-200hrs of use a year. They should see 15-20 years of use without major powertrain problems. 3,000hrs is a good metric to use, assuming the tractor has been maintained well.@@curtc.721
@kentonequipment4687 thank you for the stats. Good to know 😌
I love both, both are great tractors but I don’t see needing to buy another tractor, my 1988 Kubota L2850 needs nothing and never misses a beat. That says something about at least the old Kubotas. I could only wish I was able to shop for a new tractor.
I ended up with a john deere x700 series because I wanted a gas powered. Yes diesel is better I know. Gas is just what I use for all my equipment. Saves accidental wrong fuel mishaps.
New Sub! Great video
Thanks for the sub!
When is Kioti going to make and offer a TLB . Without asking a outrageous over price? The price of the L47 and M62 kubota is ridiculous. I can buy a JD410 "real" backhoe a couple years old for the same price.
Probly not going to happen. The compact TLB construction market is quickly being replaced with track loaders and mini excavators. It would be a waste of resources.
@@kentonequipment4687
? So buy 2 pieces of equipment to do the job instead of 1.
A TLB is the better way to go! 1 machine that does it all. I am a retired professional operator with 35 years in the trade.
Give me a good backhoe and I'll out do these track loaders and mini excavators all day.
Kind of like comparing a Yamaha Grizzy and a CF MOTO. Ya get what ya pay for like most things. Time will show that play out.
After looking at CF moto that doesn't look like a fair comparison at all. What's funny is, American and German car and tractor companies used to say these things about Japanese brands. Now the Japanese are saying it about Korea. Time will tell for sure.
I'll buy a kioti over kubota every single time. You ever run a kioti you'll be trading in the overpriced underpowered kubota
That's like comparing a Hyundai to a Honda.😂 Literally
Hyundai is doing big things. Watch out Honda!
Kioti junk !! Kubota all the way
This seems like a well thought out point. Thanks!
And in 40 years will be safe to say the kubota will still be going, with plenty of parts support and dealer support. Who knows what's going to happen to kioti in 10 years, let alone 40+.
It's funny, because we were a Kubota dealer in the late 70's when they first got to the country. That's what people said about them too.
@@kentonequipment4687 it's funny
That's what I said!
How does the tip and curl while lifting/lowering compare between the two?
Kubota is easier to find for sure, but Kioti is faster and much more powerful.
@@kentonequipment4687 I'm not sure what the first part means, but anyhow, cheers