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Imo, the 5 series is just the latest continuation of the small utiiity farm tractor aimed at farms. Most have at least one, and likely several, for doing chores, bucket work, haying, hauling, and all kinds of other jobs. It's the "workhorse" and/or daily driver. They are definitely designed and aimed at agricultural applications. The 4 series are compact utilities- meant for hobby farms- like horse stables- property owners/managers, etc That's why you see the creature comforts and premium options- these folks tend to have higher expectations in that regard. Farmers and municipalites just want a solid workhorse they can afford (to work the hell out of)- ie cheap power. I think that's why they offer similar powered options in a variety of ranges- application.
I have four 5000 series tractors that are used every day by a variety of employees with different skill levels and they have been rock solid machines. One note, on the 5 series tractors you can get an air suspension seat which makes a big comfort difference when working all day. I don’t know if that is an option for the 4 series. Dollar for dollar at the same horsepower I would always go for the larger series unless there is some mitigating factor where a smaller tractor might have an advantage. Bigger series has more strength and capacity even when horsepower is the same. Interesting note I have a 5400 with over 8000 hours on it, the engine has never been rebuilt, still runs like a champ.
When I was looking at my 4066r I also looked at a 5075e, I knew the 5 series and 6 series tractors well, for me it came down to 4 key points transmission and 3 point control. The 4r in Australia is offered with the ehydro only and electric 3 point control. The 5e is either the 9 x 3 sync reverser or the 12 x 12 and mechanical 3 point control. Neither transmission options on the 5e had a low enough ground speed for what I needed and I wanted exact repeatable 3 point control. So if I wanted that it would mean going up to a 5m euro spec or 5r euro spec. Weight and size also played a choice in the decision. I needed something light and handy to work small areas of land. And spec a 5090r up with a few niceties like front axle suspension, cab suspension and command arm with msl loader I was looking at over $120,000 which was abit over $30k more. So it was a 4066r for me. I'm happy with it, planted an acre of potatoes with last month with no issues and that included soil prep spraying brush removal and fencing. The 4r is a great tractor but I wish Deere would of put draft control on them. As it's not a good tractor for primary tillage work like mouldboard ploughing and chisel ploughing other than that it's great
I purchased a 3 series and it just couldn't keep up on the farm. Traded it in and wanted a 4066 but it was back ordered. They sold me 5065E and I'm so glad they did! The stability and CAT 2 attachments are a game changer. Especially the Batwing mower. Very happy with my 5 series. Great comparison. I was stressing out which to buy.
I have an open station 2007 John Deere 5325. It has 2 sets of rear remotes. They are the push pull type which are not easy. It has a 12 speed power reverse. The engine is a 5 cylinder at 67 horsepower.
Your timing is impeccable. I am looking at a 4066m HD instead of a 5 series. You are the first person I’ve seen compare the 4 series to the 5 series. Thank you so much for the video!
I love nearly everything about the 5 series, except that it isn’t offered in a hydrostatic transmission. The larger roomier cab is almost enough to go to a 5, but I do way too much loader work with my tractor to be shifting. To be clear, I don’t need a 5 series, lol, but what does need have to do with anything? 3rd world issues, as you would say, lol.
Here in Quebec, the 4066R are mainly sold to snow contractors. Some have a fleet of over 20+ of this model. But the 5 series is mainly used by small farmers or those who go in the woods. Anyway great video!
Great Video. Love all the detail you provide. I have a 3520 hydro that I absolutely love. Every now and then I wish it was larger for a bigger job but 95% of the time, its perfect for what I do with it. People often ask me for advice when looking for a machine. I tell them to start by figuring out what they intend to use it for mostly, because there are so many options/configurations to consider. I had a 2305 at first which was not quite enough machine for me based on my useage. And after researching and speaking with a sales person at my local JD dealer, I realized that I should have purchased a 3 series. One size does not fit all for sure.
Stability during work conditions is a huge factor. The added weight of larger machine keeps you planted while running an implement and/or doing loader work. If space is a concern then weigh that against work load. And obviously choose accordingly, but an "identical" power output/hydraulic pump rating between two tractors always has to be judged along with frame size and overall weight. And that's just speaking of the ability to do the work. As I alluded to earlier, the larger machine will always be more stable. For instance, if you run a 6-7" tiller all day on a 4 series vs the same implement on a 5 series you'll be a heck of a lot more "beat up" by the end of the day on the smaller machine than the larger. The overall size and weight just makes for a much more capable work platform.
I love all of the great information that you give us in your videos. I think you missed a big point on comparing the hydro transmissions to the power shift though. If you go hydro, you lose the ability to use your rear brakes individually to help steer and maneuver in tighter places. Hill sides are another place that you can brake the high side to put more torque to the wheel with more weight/traction. It is an old farmers trick that I was taught 35 years ago. Thanks again for sharing your wisdom on these machines.
This is a lost art. Not a single guy I know uses independent breaking anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if Deere removes that feature in future models. I know I'm guilty of just leaving the brake pedal lever down all the time.
I must have completely missed what about this 4 series makes it the same price as the newer 5 series? I understand that it's an R equivalent vs the 5 series E. But what specifically makes the older, smaller, less capacity machine worth the same price as the newer, larger, higher capacity one?
Part of it is that the 4=series comes from the premium line, and has more options on it, while the 5E is an economy tractor. The mid PTO likely drives that price up.too, so does the self levelling loader; the grapple bucket, and I think he alluded to some other attachments that come with it. The 5E comes with the loader, period.
Mid PTO, HST, Extra attachments. The base tractor new was $35K. Loader, Grapple, Belly mower, rake, quick attach, adds at least another $15-20K or more new, so guesstimate $55K new. Todays market, used is selling for damn near new pricing.
4066 is the highest horsepower Category 1 compact tractor. That's why it's expensive and on back order all the time. We waited months for one but ended up getting the 5065E for the same price. Glad I did because the extra weight and footprint makes it a dream when lifting heavy loads and dragging heavy (Category 2) attachments. The great thing is, converting the 5 series to Category 1 is pretty easy. Making it an easy transition from Category 1 implements if you already own them.
5075e we bought couple years ago, came with one rear remote. Really kind of limites you what you can put on the back. Also wish we would of went a sizes bigger, seems to have a hard time pulling its own weight in C range
Yeah I only use C range for transportation. If I'm pulling anything that heavy, B/4 is usually fast enough or borderline too fast. I agree only 1rear remote isn't enough for a 5 series.
I have a 2018 5075e and it also came with 1 rear remote. A second can be added but my dealer quoted around 2K for the complete install. I really don't need it that bad yet. But having said that I wouldn't be happy with a smaller hobby farm tractor. With a width of 6 ft. and a 7 ft. loader bucket, brush hog and rear hyd. blade it's hard to beat! I've never had an issue with the gearing in the transmission, runs down the road perfectly. And I really love the Speed Fwd/Rvrs, that saves a lot of valuable time. And it hauls quite nicely on my 30 ft. GN. This guy doesn't deal in 5000 series tractors or larger so he is biased in his reviews in my mind! 🤠
I have 4 John Deere, 790 a 30 Hp. 1630. a50 hp. 4230 a100 hp and a 5E 100hp all excellent tractors. Just pick out the tractor for the job size. Love the new skid steer quick hitch front attachment loaded on the 5E. One person can hook up attachments super fast and easy.
Both of these tractors are beyond what I need out here in the woods, and wouldn't handle well on the terrain. But the more I look at those cabs... Better than some cars I have driven!
The smallest “ag” tractors to me (i.e 5 series) have always seemed to be a better value than the largest “compact utility” tractors (I.e the 4 series). The biggest difference is that the larger compact tractors tend to have more creature comforts while the smallest “ag” machines have a little more working capacity.
Probably 90%+ of compact tractors and 50%+ of utility tractors and mini excavators that have engines from an outside source are yanmar. May even be higher. They've a well earned reputation for solid reliability.
If I had to buy I think I would need 2 tractors of different sizes. A 25-30ish hp for mowing the grass and a 75+ hp for snow removal (that's how much snow I got here!) While a 3r would do the job, it would be overkill on the grass, to the point it'll cause damages to the ground and on the other hand it would take forever to remove the snow.
The 5 series seems to be more of an AG tractor they have mounts for Baler and seeder controls and monitors built into the cab .I believe thats why the cabs are bigger inside.
The 5 and 6 series are both considered utility tractors, correct? And yeah, utility tractors are pretty much the workhorses of anything but the largest hay operations. They're also common in smaller commercial farming, county road departments for pulling batwing mowers, medium to larger hunting clubs for food plot work, etc.
Well, yeah I guess JD does a good job there again of confusing us all. Some of their 6 Series do fall into the Utility category while there larger 6 Series are Ag/Row Crop tractors. So, they make it pretty simple! 🤣
Well, they're hardly the only company with confusing names and model numbers.. just one of the few I have a nagging suspicion it might be deliberate, given so many of their other customer unfriendly practices at the corporate level. But perhaps that is a bit far off into the weeds for a channel that focuses more on the individual machines, which to give JD credit where it is due, still seem to be very well built.
I would love to see this type comparison of the Kubota L series vs MX series. I really appreciate the information you share on your channel. “Keep on Keeping on!” Tim
That's a 5 gallon bucket of info! Great comparison. I prefer shuttle for the direct power feeling, but hydros are awesome for tight spaces and loader work.
I had a UK-spec' 5055E with cab (2011) - it had two pairs of spool-valves on the rear as standard. I changed it to a UK-spec' 5085M in 2015, and that has same setup. I believe the 5065E you are showing here has the John Deere 2.9 litre 3 cylinder engine. What engine has the 4720? I can say that my 5085M is a World away in terms of performance compared with the 5055E - particularly working uphill with any sort of powered attachment - the 5055E struggled, but the 5085M sails along regardless. This was the main reason we changed model.
Having many hours of daily work with a 5 series its not bad tractor and we do feed wagon duty with it and the only down side is the emissions dont do it any favors since about every 2 years it gets new fuel injectors and full tune up since our application does not work it hard enough so we end up with fuel in the oil . Will be going to a Kubota or a Massey next time
Yes, I did a video long ago. Due for an improved version though when I happen to have both of those series at the same time. This is back when my video skills weren't quite where they are today, haha! ruclips.net/video/FNsPlSLUK3M/видео.html
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Something you didn't touch on with the 5 series is that you can get a 540/1000 pto option to run either size of implements. On my 5115m that option also has an economy pto mode so the 540 pto speed be used at a much lower engine speed for low horsepower implements. Also having used both 4 and 5 series I will say that the 4 series is much more maneuverable, much tighter turning radius, in tight spaces.
One other comment on the 5 series. My 5115m also has the deluxe rear remote option which has 3 sets of rear hydraulics and I forget what they call it but set #1 is setup different so that it can be adjusted to a setting specifically for running hydraulic driven pumps, like a sprayer pump. Whereas according to the manual the other sets aren't to be used for that purpose.
Years ago (20 to be exact) it was easy to compare a Kubota to a JD as far as Compact tractors, the B series had an exact counter part. Today though, not so easy. Whats a direct comparison of an L4060 HSTC to a John Deere? I thought a 3046R, but dimension wise, the JD is smaller, and lower.
Some say John Deere's nomenclature is confusing, but I think Kubota's is even more confusing. At least JD uses numbers for their series of tractors instead of letters like Kubota. Kubota also doesn't really have a proper designation for their economy tractors, like I've seen L3010s, L2501s, MX6000s, and etc. But none of those follow the same nomenclature for designating the tractor as an economy model. I dont know, it just seems weird to me how Kubota does it.
Kubota is not that hard, BX is the sub-compacts, B, LX, L, and L60 are the compacts, B is your basic up to 24HP, LX 24-38HP, L is the basic 24-47 HP, and L60 is the 37-62HP range. They recently added the L60 LE series which is a dressed down version of the L60 Grand. Think of the LX as the R series JD in that HP range. M series are your 60HP and up utility tractors like the 5000 series JD. The hard part is trying to figure out apples to apples on what model JD is similar to what model Kubota. Still trying to figure out the L4060 to what JD because it doesn't match up to the 3 series 3046R, though the HP is a bit more on the R, but its a smaller tractor.
@@acdii The LX series only goes to 33 hp. But if you are to look at the lineup of letters, as a new person, how would you know that an MX is bigger than a BX? With JD it’s east, just numbers going up to signify a bigger model. How would a new person know which model is bigger/better or different right from the designation? Because JD uses letters to signify an economy tractor, which makes identification easier.
@@johnsponable4907 M series are Utility tractors. Not even in the same category. The Kubota website makes it easy to pick and choose what you are looking for based on category. The LX is 30.8 HP, did I put 38? Sorry. JD doesn't even list all the specs such as length, width, height, and ground clearance. That makes it difficult to compare to other brands. I needed a tractor for hay production, but not a big Utility tractor. Trying to do an apples to apples between JD and Kubota was difficult, their 4 series may have more HP, but they are lighter and smaller, not good when you have equipment that weighs as much or more than the tractor. I was going to get a 3046R, then found out it sits 2" lower than the L4060, which has the same drawbar height as a full utility tractor. The frame on the 3046R is also not as strong as the L4060, and the loader is fixed, cannot be removed without unbolting it. All that and it is several thousand more. I would have to jump up to the 4 series to compare to a L4060 in size and weight. A 4044R is closer in size, but has an inch less ground clearance. The L4060 also has a tighter turning radius. The 4044R is $5,000 more as well.
@@acdii I was never doing an apples to apples comparison of the tractors, just the nomenclature. I also never mentioned the M series, I don’t think. I don’t really care about what JD lists on their websites because I can usually use TractorData. If you are comparing the 4R/M series to the MX, then yes the 4R/M is a little smaller and lighter, because the MX is a utility tractor and the 4R/M is still a compact.
The 5e tractors can have 3 rear remotes as well as the 5m, but the 5r can have 4 rear remotes. Keep in mind the 5e are made in India and the 5m are assembled in in the U.S. with a lot of U.S. parts,and the 5r are made in Germany. The difference between the 5m 5r and 5e are huge, thy cost more but worth every penny. In closing I'd like to say often with tractors if you want good quality and reliability you have to pay the higher $$.
I wish I would have read this sooner. Just got a 5E, first time out I popped a hole in the fuel tank. 1500 dollar repair. I'm wondering if the 5M/R have skid plates to protect the ABS plastic tank. Should have used metal.
I know it's totally off topic of this video and a different tractor brand but I'm looking to diagnose some AC issues on a relatively new Boomer 45. When I turn the AC button on I'm not getting cold air. Heat works along with the blowers. Can anyone direct me to helpful videos for DIY AC diagnosing/repair.
$45K? Wow. I know JD holds its price better than some but, dang I can get a 60hp Kubota factory cab tractor brand spank'n new for that and have a few grand left in my pocket.
Which one? There's three different 60hp Series from Kubota. All at drastically different price points that do different things. Just like the two in this video. Hard to compare anything without context.
@@GoodWorksTractors Good point, I was talking about what they term as their economy line, the MX series. Don't get me wrong, I' not trying to put down JD at all here. I would have one myself if for nothing else than the way they hold their value. I even had one on my wish list when I was shopping but It just wasn't the right choice for me in my situation.
I don’t believe John Deere has a recirculating option for the air conditioner in any tractor below the five series. That makes no sense to me that you’re always pulling air in from outside. Hot dirty dusty air. I don’t think anybody makes a better Tractor than John Deere but the Kubota Grand L cabs are bigger and nicer and you can recirculate the AC. If I could afford a cab I would not be a loyal John Deere customer like I am now. You mentioned a while back how hard it was to get a product you developed into production and on the market for sale. Maybe you could do a video on that process. I have built some attachments and accessories. What’s do I do next…
Great job Courtney. I think i would stay with the 4 series tractor. Reason is that there is no shifting involved. Maybe they may in the future come up with a hydro 5 series. On the bigger tractors they have power shift. Is that sort of hydro? I have used the power shift on a 4440 farm tractor and was told not to clutch when going forward gears only to stop and clutch to go to reverse. Is that correct?. Anyway keep up the good works!. Have a great day guys and be safe!, Tim
You don't need to use the clutch at all with Pwer Reverser. You can go from forward to reverse and the tractor will go to neutral, slow down, then shift to reverse all by itself. In fact, it took me a while to learn not to use the clutch so much when doing bucket work. It's easier on the leg and on the machine.
GWT; I noticed that you mentioned the buddy seat, I have the 2020 (purchased 11/2019) 5065E with cab and I would like to purchase a buddy seat for it. Is this something that you sell/can sell? If so can you give me a price for it? In any case is there a way that you can put out the Deere part number for it? I thought that due to you showing it in this video that there might be a small chance that you had it posted in your links of items from 3rd parties as you have done in the past. After short research, we all know the answer…
So why is the older tractor the same price as the newer one? Is it more valuable?? And why would Deere put the PCM at the very front of the machine on the 5 series so that a tree branch or other pointy object that punctures the front grill will easily take out one of the most expensive components??
They are more valuable because they sell way more of them to homesteaders. They have the highest HP for a compact Category 1 tractor. Just got a 5 series, first time out popped a hole in the gas tank under the cab steps. 1500 dollars later I'm looking at the grill Guard Courtney reviewed for his compact tractors.
The compact utility market, regardless of brand, uses HP ratings purely for marketing. On that size chassis, 45 HP is all the tractor is capable of using. Anything more than that is marketing to say my tractor has the most power. There's just not enough tractor there to warrant that much HP.
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Imo, the 5 series is just the latest continuation of the small utiiity farm tractor aimed at farms. Most have at least one, and likely several, for doing chores, bucket work, haying, hauling, and all kinds of other jobs. It's the "workhorse" and/or daily driver. They are definitely designed and aimed at agricultural applications. The 4 series are compact utilities- meant for hobby farms- like horse stables- property owners/managers, etc That's why you see the creature comforts and premium options- these folks tend to have higher expectations in that regard. Farmers and municipalites just want a solid workhorse they can afford (to work the hell out of)- ie cheap power. I think that's why they offer similar powered options in a variety of ranges- application.
I have four 5000 series tractors that are used every day by a variety of employees with different skill levels and they have been rock solid machines. One note, on the 5 series tractors you can get an air suspension seat which makes a big comfort difference when working all day. I don’t know if that is an option for the 4 series. Dollar for dollar at the same horsepower I would always go for the larger series unless there is some mitigating factor where a smaller tractor might have an advantage. Bigger series has more strength and capacity even when horsepower is the same. Interesting note I have a 5400 with over 8000 hours on it, the engine has never been rebuilt, still runs like a champ.
I have a 2009 4720 with an air seat
Very good job of explaining all the differences between these 2 tractors. Thank you for taking the time walking us through everything.
When I was looking at my 4066r I also looked at a 5075e, I knew the 5 series and 6 series tractors well, for me it came down to 4 key points transmission and 3 point control. The 4r in Australia is offered with the ehydro only and electric 3 point control. The 5e is either the 9 x 3 sync reverser or the 12 x 12 and mechanical 3 point control. Neither transmission options on the 5e had a low enough ground speed for what I needed and I wanted exact repeatable 3 point control. So if I wanted that it would mean going up to a 5m euro spec or 5r euro spec. Weight and size also played a choice in the decision. I needed something light and handy to work small areas of land. And spec a 5090r up with a few niceties like front axle suspension, cab suspension and command arm with msl loader I was looking at over $120,000 which was abit over $30k more. So it was a 4066r for me. I'm happy with it, planted an acre of potatoes with last month with no issues and that included soil prep spraying brush removal and fencing. The 4r is a great tractor but I wish Deere would of put draft control on them. As it's not a good tractor for primary tillage work like mouldboard ploughing and chisel ploughing other than that it's great
Great insight Michael. Thanks as always! 👌
I purchased a 3 series and it just couldn't keep up on the farm. Traded it in and wanted a 4066 but it was back ordered. They sold me 5065E and I'm so glad they did! The stability and CAT 2 attachments are a game changer. Especially the Batwing mower. Very happy with my 5 series. Great comparison. I was stressing out which to buy.
I have an open station 2007 John Deere 5325. It has 2 sets of rear remotes. They are the push pull type which are not easy. It has a 12 speed power reverse. The engine is a 5 cylinder at 67 horsepower.
Your timing is impeccable. I am looking at a 4066m HD instead of a 5 series. You are the first person I’ve seen compare the 4 series to the 5 series. Thank you so much for the video!
I love nearly everything about the 5 series, except that it isn’t offered in a hydrostatic transmission. The larger roomier cab is almost enough to go to a 5, but I do way too much loader work with my tractor to be shifting. To be clear, I don’t need a 5 series, lol, but what does need have to do with anything? 3rd world issues, as you would say, lol.
Here in Quebec, the 4066R are mainly sold to snow contractors. Some have a fleet of over 20+ of this model. But the 5 series is mainly used by small farmers or those who go in the woods. Anyway great video!
Great Video. Love all the detail you provide. I have a 3520 hydro that I absolutely love. Every now and then I wish it was larger for a bigger job but 95% of the time, its perfect for what I do with it. People often ask me for advice when looking for a machine. I tell them to start by figuring out what they intend to use it for mostly, because there are so many options/configurations to consider. I had a 2305 at first which was not quite enough machine for me based on my useage. And after researching and speaking with a sales person at my local JD dealer, I realized that I should have purchased a 3 series. One size does not fit all for sure.
Stability during work conditions is a huge factor. The added weight of larger machine keeps you planted while running an implement and/or doing loader work. If space is a concern then weigh that against work load. And obviously choose accordingly, but an "identical" power output/hydraulic pump rating between two tractors always has to be judged along with frame size and overall weight. And that's just speaking of the ability to do the work. As I alluded to earlier, the larger machine will always be more stable. For instance, if you run a 6-7" tiller all day on a 4 series vs the same implement on a 5 series you'll be a heck of a lot more "beat up" by the end of the day on the smaller machine than the larger. The overall size and weight just makes for a much more capable work platform.
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I love all of the great information that you give us in your videos. I think you missed a big point on comparing the hydro transmissions to the power shift though. If you go hydro, you lose the ability to use your rear brakes individually to help steer and maneuver in tighter places. Hill sides are another place that you can brake the high side to put more torque to the wheel with more weight/traction. It is an old farmers trick that I was taught 35 years ago. Thanks again for sharing your wisdom on these machines.
This is a lost art. Not a single guy I know uses independent breaking anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if Deere removes that feature in future models. I know I'm guilty of just leaving the brake pedal lever down all the time.
I use the individual brakes for tilling foodplots!
only tractors that Deere makes without differential brakes are the subcompacts and the 3Es.
I must have completely missed what about this 4 series makes it the same price as the newer 5 series? I understand that it's an R equivalent vs the 5 series E. But what specifically makes the older, smaller, less capacity machine worth the same price as the newer, larger, higher capacity one?
Part of it is that the 4=series comes from the premium line, and has more options on it, while the 5E is an economy tractor. The mid PTO likely drives that price up.too, so does the self levelling loader; the grapple bucket, and I think he alluded to some other attachments that come with it. The 5E comes with the loader, period.
Also he did not mention emissions. The older one would not have them if I'm correct. That would be a plus to many people.
Mid PTO, HST, Extra attachments. The base tractor new was $35K. Loader, Grapple, Belly mower, rake, quick attach, adds at least another $15-20K or more new, so guesstimate $55K new. Todays market, used is selling for damn near new pricing.
@@TheSailingwoodworker no DEF on anything less than 75hp so that doesn't apply in this video.
4066 is the highest horsepower Category 1 compact tractor. That's why it's expensive and on back order all the time. We waited months for one but ended up getting the 5065E for the same price. Glad I did because the extra weight and footprint makes it a dream when lifting heavy loads and dragging heavy (Category 2) attachments. The great thing is, converting the 5 series to Category 1 is pretty easy. Making it an easy transition from Category 1 implements if you already own them.
5075e we bought couple years ago, came with one rear remote. Really kind of limites you what you can put on the back. Also wish we would of went a sizes bigger, seems to have a hard time pulling its own weight in C range
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Yeah I only use C range for transportation. If I'm pulling anything that heavy, B/4 is usually fast enough or borderline too fast. I agree only 1rear remote isn't enough for a 5 series.
I have a 2018 5075e and it also came with 1 rear remote. A second can be added but my dealer quoted around 2K for the complete install. I really don't need it that bad yet. But having said that I wouldn't be happy with a smaller hobby farm tractor. With a width of 6 ft. and a 7 ft. loader bucket, brush hog and rear hyd. blade it's hard to beat! I've never had an issue with the gearing in the transmission, runs down the road perfectly. And I really love the Speed Fwd/Rvrs, that saves a lot of valuable time. And it hauls quite nicely on my 30 ft. GN. This guy doesn't deal in 5000 series tractors or larger so he is biased in his reviews in my mind! 🤠
I have 4 John Deere, 790 a 30 Hp. 1630. a50 hp. 4230 a100 hp and a 5E 100hp all excellent tractors. Just pick out the tractor for the job size. Love the new skid steer quick hitch front attachment loaded on the 5E. One person can hook up attachments super fast and easy.
Great collection! Thanks for sharing!
Both of these tractors are beyond what I need out here in the woods, and wouldn't handle well on the terrain. But the more I look at those cabs... Better than some cars I have driven!
The smallest “ag” tractors to me (i.e 5 series) have always seemed to be a better value than the largest “compact utility” tractors (I.e the 4 series). The biggest difference is that the larger compact tractors tend to have more creature comforts while the smallest “ag” machines have a little more working capacity.
What is the price difference between a 4066r and a 5075m series. Similarly equipped?
5075M is more expensive. Pluse it fakes DEF. 5065E is cheaper and no DEF
Great video, I have a 5065e cab tractor, absolutely love it!!
Awesome, thanks for watching!
Probably 90%+ of compact tractors and 50%+ of utility tractors and mini excavators that have engines from an outside source are yanmar. May even be higher. They've a well earned reputation for solid reliability.
If I had to buy I think I would need 2 tractors of different sizes. A 25-30ish hp for mowing the grass and a 75+ hp for snow removal (that's how much snow I got here!) While a 3r would do the job, it would be overkill on the grass, to the point it'll cause damages to the ground and on the other hand it would take forever to remove the snow.
The 5 series seems to be more of an AG tractor they have mounts for Baler and seeder controls and monitors built into the cab .I believe thats why the cabs are bigger inside.
There's another Series up called Ag tractors. The 5 Series is a called a Utility tractor, sandwiched in between Compact and Ag. Thanks for watching!
The 5 and 6 series are both considered utility tractors, correct? And yeah, utility tractors are pretty much the workhorses of anything but the largest hay operations. They're also common in smaller commercial farming, county road departments for pulling batwing mowers, medium to larger hunting clubs for food plot work, etc.
Well, yeah I guess JD does a good job there again of confusing us all. Some of their 6 Series do fall into the Utility category while there larger 6 Series are Ag/Row Crop tractors. So, they make it pretty simple! 🤣
Well, they're hardly the only company with confusing names and model numbers.. just one of the few I have a nagging suspicion it might be deliberate, given so many of their other customer unfriendly practices at the corporate level. But perhaps that is a bit far off into the weeds for a channel that focuses more on the individual machines, which to give JD credit where it is due, still seem to be very well built.
thank you for the video comparing the 2 tractors. I have been curious about the difference between the 4 and 5 series
I would love to see this type comparison of the Kubota L series vs MX series. I really appreciate the information you share on your channel. “Keep on Keeping on!” Tim
Yeah, need to luck out and have both at the same time. I'm not a Kubota dealer, so unfortunately hard to accomplish.
I think that Messick's did that earlier...
@@johanneslaxell6641 I’ll check it out; thanks! Tim
That's a 5 gallon bucket of info! Great comparison. I prefer shuttle for the direct power feeling, but hydros are awesome for tight spaces and loader work.
I ALWAYS learn something from your videos! Thanks!
I had a UK-spec' 5055E with cab (2011) - it had two pairs of spool-valves on the rear as standard. I changed it to a UK-spec' 5085M in 2015, and that has same setup. I believe the 5065E you are showing here has the John Deere 2.9 litre 3 cylinder engine. What engine has the 4720? I can say that my 5085M is a World away in terms of performance compared with the 5055E - particularly working uphill with any sort of powered attachment - the 5055E struggled, but the 5085M sails along regardless. This was the main reason we changed model.
What is the Max tow on one of them tractors
Could you please advise if they still make the 5093E tractors or are they discontinued ? Thanks
I'm sorry, but not aware of their current production status
@@GoodWorksTractors Thank you for your reply.
Have you used a jd Ivt. How does it compare to hydro
Having many hours of daily work with a 5 series its not bad tractor and we do feed wagon duty with it and the only down side is the emissions dont do it any favors since about every 2 years it gets new fuel injectors and full tune up since our application does not work it hard enough so we end up with fuel in the oil . Will be going to a Kubota or a Massey next time
How about doing it with the Kubota MX5100 VS M5660?
Sure, if you want to send over the tractors, haha!
Super useful and always entertaining, thanks brother!
Any chance you couples do a 3 series comparisons. Not to the 4 or 5 but say 3E/3R etc.
Yes, I did a video long ago. Due for an improved version though when I happen to have both of those series at the same time. This is back when my video skills weren't quite where they are today, haha! ruclips.net/video/FNsPlSLUK3M/видео.html
Great in depth comparison and info! 👍
Thank you for this content. When and if possible, please do a comparison between the 5E and 5M series.
You’ll like the 5m series over the 5e ( larger cab and a few other options)
I have 2018 5065E great tractor open station.
Taking about spacers i have 2004 4120 jd the rear tires are close to the fenders cant put chain on her, i heard you can flip the back tire around never done it but you tink by doing this will be enough to put chain on or do i need spacers? Thanks in advance👊
Something you didn't touch on with the 5 series is that you can get a 540/1000 pto option to run either size of implements. On my 5115m that option also has an economy pto mode so the 540 pto speed be used at a much lower engine speed for low horsepower implements.
Also having used both 4 and 5 series I will say that the 4 series is much more maneuverable, much tighter turning radius, in tight spaces.
One other comment on the 5 series. My 5115m also has the deluxe rear remote option which has 3 sets of rear hydraulics and I forget what they call it but set #1 is setup different so that it can be adjusted to a setting specifically for running hydraulic driven pumps, like a sprayer pump. Whereas according to the manual the other sets aren't to be used for that purpose.
Years ago (20 to be exact) it was easy to compare a Kubota to a JD as far as Compact tractors, the B series had an exact counter part. Today though, not so easy. Whats a direct comparison of an L4060 HSTC to a John Deere? I thought a 3046R, but dimension wise, the JD is smaller, and lower.
Very informative, great post!
Do you miss the 5115m now? That was nice!
I do, haha!
Some say John Deere's nomenclature is confusing, but I think Kubota's is even more confusing. At least JD uses numbers for their series of tractors instead of letters like Kubota. Kubota also doesn't really have a proper designation for their economy tractors, like I've seen L3010s, L2501s, MX6000s, and etc. But none of those follow the same nomenclature for designating the tractor as an economy model. I dont know, it just seems weird to me how Kubota does it.
Kubota is not that hard, BX is the sub-compacts, B, LX, L, and L60 are the compacts, B is your basic up to 24HP, LX 24-38HP, L is the basic 24-47 HP, and L60 is the 37-62HP range. They recently added the L60 LE series which is a dressed down version of the L60 Grand. Think of the LX as the R series JD in that HP range. M series are your 60HP and up utility tractors like the 5000 series JD.
The hard part is trying to figure out apples to apples on what model JD is similar to what model Kubota. Still trying to figure out the L4060 to what JD because it doesn't match up to the 3 series 3046R, though the HP is a bit more on the R, but its a smaller tractor.
@@acdii The LX series only goes to 33 hp. But if you are to look at the lineup of letters, as a new person, how would you know that an MX is bigger than a BX? With JD it’s east, just numbers going up to signify a bigger model. How would a new person know which model is bigger/better or different right from the designation? Because JD uses letters to signify an economy tractor, which makes identification easier.
@@johnsponable4907 M series are Utility tractors. Not even in the same category. The Kubota website makes it easy to pick and choose what you are looking for based on category. The LX is 30.8 HP, did I put 38? Sorry. JD doesn't even list all the specs such as length, width, height, and ground clearance. That makes it difficult to compare to other brands.
I needed a tractor for hay production, but not a big Utility tractor. Trying to do an apples to apples between JD and Kubota was difficult, their 4 series may have more HP, but they are lighter and smaller, not good when you have equipment that weighs as much or more than the tractor. I was going to get a 3046R, then found out it sits 2" lower than the L4060, which has the same drawbar height as a full utility tractor. The frame on the 3046R is also not as strong as the L4060, and the loader is fixed, cannot be removed without unbolting it. All that and it is several thousand more. I would have to jump up to the 4 series to compare to a L4060 in size and weight. A 4044R is closer in size, but has an inch less ground clearance. The L4060 also has a tighter turning radius. The 4044R is $5,000 more as well.
@@acdii I was never doing an apples to apples comparison of the tractors, just the nomenclature. I also never mentioned the M series, I don’t think. I don’t really care about what JD lists on their websites because I can usually use TractorData. If you are comparing the 4R/M series to the MX, then yes the 4R/M is a little smaller and lighter, because the MX is a utility tractor and the 4R/M is still a compact.
@@johnsponable4907 You mentioned the MX which is the Utility line.
Can you compare the Kubota MX vs LX
The 5e tractors can have 3 rear remotes as well as the 5m, but the 5r can have 4 rear remotes. Keep in mind the 5e are made in India and the 5m are assembled in in the U.S. with a lot of U.S. parts,and the 5r are made in Germany. The difference between the 5m 5r and 5e are huge, thy cost more but worth every penny. In closing I'd like to say often with tractors if you want good quality and reliability you have to pay the higher $$.
I wish I would have read this sooner. Just got a 5E, first time out I popped a hole in the fuel tank. 1500 dollar repair. I'm wondering if the 5M/R have skid plates to protect the ABS plastic tank. Should have used metal.
Great review and information 👍🏻
Thank you!!
As always much information. I have a 1025R so most of this doesn't apply but there were still some good thoughts I can apply to my Baby John.
I know it's totally off topic of this video and a different tractor brand but I'm looking to diagnose some AC issues on a relatively new Boomer 45. When I turn the AC button on I'm not getting cold air. Heat works along with the blowers. Can anyone direct me to helpful videos for DIY AC diagnosing/repair.
$45K? Wow. I know JD holds its price better than some but, dang I can get a 60hp Kubota factory cab tractor brand spank'n new for that and have a few grand left in my pocket.
Which one? There's three different 60hp Series from Kubota. All at drastically different price points that do different things. Just like the two in this video. Hard to compare anything without context.
@@GoodWorksTractors Good point, I was talking about what they term as their economy line, the MX series. Don't get me wrong, I' not trying to put down JD at all here. I would have one myself if for nothing else than the way they hold their value. I even had one on my wish list when I was shopping but It just wasn't the right choice for me in my situation.
Understood!
I don’t believe John Deere has a recirculating option for the air conditioner in any tractor below the five series. That makes no sense to me that you’re always pulling air in from outside. Hot dirty dusty air. I don’t think anybody makes a better Tractor than John Deere but the Kubota Grand L cabs are bigger and nicer and you can recirculate the AC. If I could afford a cab I would not be a loyal John Deere customer like I am now. You mentioned a while back how hard it was to get a product you developed into production and on the market for sale. Maybe you could do a video on that process. I have built some attachments and accessories. What’s do I do next…
I'd love to see them.
Do they both require DEF?
Both of those tractors don’t have def ( the def doesn’t apply until to the tractor until somewhere between 75- 85 horsepower )
Thanks. Some worthy considerations indeed.
Great job Courtney. I think i would stay with the 4 series tractor. Reason is that there is no shifting involved. Maybe they may in the future come up with a hydro 5 series. On the bigger tractors they have power shift. Is that sort of hydro? I have used the power shift on a 4440 farm tractor and was told not to clutch when going forward gears only to stop and clutch to go to reverse. Is that correct?. Anyway keep up the good works!. Have a great day guys and be safe!, Tim
You don't need to use the clutch at all with Pwer Reverser. You can go from forward to reverse and the tractor will go to neutral, slow down, then shift to reverse all by itself. In fact, it took me a while to learn not to use the clutch so much when doing bucket work. It's easier on the leg and on the machine.
GWT; I noticed that you mentioned the buddy seat, I have the 2020 (purchased 11/2019) 5065E with cab and I would like to purchase a buddy seat for it. Is this something that you sell/can sell? If so can you give me a price for it? In any case is there a way that you can put out the Deere part number for it?
I thought that due to you showing it in this video that there might be a small chance that you had it posted in your links of items from 3rd parties as you have done in the past. After short research, we all know the answer…
Good points Sir
So why is the older tractor the same price as the newer one? Is it more valuable?? And why would Deere put the PCM at the very front of the machine on the 5 series so that a tree branch or other pointy object that punctures the front grill will easily take out one of the most expensive components??
They are more valuable because they sell way more of them to homesteaders. They have the highest HP for a compact Category 1 tractor.
Just got a 5 series, first time out popped a hole in the gas tank under the cab steps. 1500 dollars later I'm looking at the grill Guard Courtney reviewed for his compact tractors.
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The 5e is made in india for that market they just but a dress on it for europe and the states
The biggest difference, one takes that stinking DEF, the other one doesn't.
No DEF in either
The compact utility market, regardless of brand, uses HP ratings purely for marketing. On that size chassis, 45 HP is all the tractor is capable of using. Anything more than that is marketing to say my tractor has the most power. There's just not enough tractor there to warrant that much HP.