This is a great video with better content! Two of my favorite guys in a video together. GCI turf does a great job! Pete is so good with details with his work, and Tractor TIm is the master of tractors! Thanks for sharing.
This is such a great video. Instead of complaining about Tim using yellow and green in his now old logo, JD should send him a salesman of the decade award. I've learned more about JD tractors from watching TTWT than I would visiting a dealership 1,000 times. Great seeing Pete too. Two great guys that are both experts in their respective fields.
I'm an Ag salesman for James River Equipment in Ashland VA. I love working for them. Buy a Deere. Not only because of the product but because James River delivers. They will take care of you
This takes me back many years to my first compact tractor purchase. Fun to watch Pete go thru the process with Tim. Pete will really like the hydro transmission for his uses, and his comment was correct…“Get all the hydraulics you can get” Blessings.
The two things I have against Deere are: 1. Price. I believe that they are 10 to 20% ish higher. Some of this is made up with dealer network, but asking that much more for a tractor they sub out the manufacturing on is a no-go at least for me. When they did everything in house, I would have looked past this I think. 2. No SSQA. 90% of the rest of the world uses SSQA. When I bought my tractor it was the one thing I had to have. There are many places for me to rent stuff around here, but not one carries Deere attachments for the FEL. The best thing I see in the Deere line is the dealer support, and the availability of models to fit needs. This video alone showed 12 or so available models in 3 different frame sizes. That is amazing.
I bought my 5045e from James River. I previously only bought/grew up strictly on Massey. But after the buying experience with James River and how they bent over backwards to make sure I got the right tractor, and the quality of it, I will be Deere man from now on.
I own a 2015 4066r cab tractor. It has the self leveling bucket and the hydrostatic transmission. I do not have any trouble getting a full bucket of material. I load and haul dirt, sand and gravel without any problems. There have been times I wish the bucket tilted back a little more. When using my pallet forks the self leveling is great. Love your channel Tim.
I love you Pete! I love your channel! Tim forgot to mention the BigToolRack which is a good ballast as well as good for hauling so many tools and things. Tim, can you do more videos like this? You are a really talented salesman!
Wow Christmas came early to RUclips viewing. Tim and Pete doing a collaboration, who knew they were pals. Sure would like to see more of you two working on something in the future. I know Pete said changes were coming to his channel, I'm sensing a cameo appearance by TTWT :). This was one of the better JD tractor series comparisons I've ever seen. I'd hope the Salesman there was taking notes cuz you sure put on a clinic especially with understanding how the customer would be using the chosen tractor. You guys definitely have great chemistry on camera. Hope to see more!
I glad that James River took the time to help y’all out. I went there to by my first tractor. They only had two tractors on the lot and the sales staff was to busy to help. So I left and went to Collie Equipment and purchased a Kobota L3901, then two years later traded for a cab LX3310. The owner took the time to make sure I was buying the correct tractor for my needs. I will most likely never own a Deere do to both franchises around me never have time to work with the small customers.
I had the same issue in Delaware going to a deere dealer for mower parts so my son in law didn't have to bring his mower over while we were at our property in the Appalachian mountains. I had ordered the parts over the phone and was in my work clothes driving one of my old dodges. No one offered any assistance as I looked at some equipment on my way out that was in the show room. I then pulled across the street and looked at their used equipment a red one caught my eye 😁. Someone came out with a clipboard wrote some numbers and started to walk away so I asked about the price for the red tractor and was told to write the invoice number down and bring it inside and someone would look it up....everyone had radios on them I was one of only 3 customers I saw in the 40 minutes I was there. Yes I have been looking for the right piece of equipment to have in the mountains and nothing new seems to fit my needs
Good job on explaining hydrostat to your friend. So many don't understand all of the benefits of it. He picked out the exact tractor that I wanted, but I ended up with a 45 horse Kioti because of price.
Welcome to VA Tim!! We are only an hour drive from Danville & would've loved to have made the trip to meet ya if we knew yall where so close! Haha. James River Equipment has been great for us here too! Another great video & it appears you've really helped Pete better understand thenoptions that are available! Looking forward to the next one! Take Care!! 😊
Excellent. I have used a MX6000 about the same size as a large 4 series and everything Tim said about the hydrostatic is true. Doing dirt work but not plowing. Turning quickly to make another pass. Etc
Enjoyed seeing this. You can give him some good advice from running tractors. One thing I would say is 50% dealer support is very important today does not matter if it is John deere are kubota are any other brands. Then I would try and do what you all did here and drive different ones and go with what feels the best .but the first thing would be to pray about it and the dealer God knows best ! Can't wait to see more on this . Hope you all have a blessed day
Well I have been following you for at least 5 years now. Not just the videos. I have a 1, 3 and 5. Each has its place. I have to admit I like all three and it would be hard choice to go with just one at this point. The biggest smile does come from the 5. Likely because it begins to get into the bigger tractor category. In our town, most are bigger than the 5. I bought I for mowing bigger areas and am setup for dirt / gravel road maintenance. I live in big wheat farms area hanging on hillsides. Toe curling. There are days I just go for a drive during harvest to watch the dance.
Tim is literally a mirror image of me when it comes to tractors. He has the nerdy knowledge and the same passion. Everytime I hear him talk I'm like omg this is exactly almost word for word what I would say. It's because most people are not tractor nerds. We also do similar work except I have a 4044m. On that note, man I wish I had a 4066R or a cab 5075E like that. The 4066R is like the Cadillac of the tractor world. The 5075 is maybe not so much a Cadillac but it is a true big boy tractor. I just have no need for a 5 series. But that 4066r cab tractor would be a dream 😍🔥 Also have always had hydrostatic, my 3025e, my 4044m, I love it for dirt work, but sometimes I wish I had that extra grunt in low gear that you don't quite have with a hydrostat. But can't go wrong either way.
Tim and Pete together oh my. Tim you should hang out with Pete for a week and he can really give you some great content on turf with the attachments you have on my it would be sweet too see.
if you need a creeper speed the manual is better than hydro because set it and forget it my 55 year old tractor can go that speed all day just put it in gear and in a open field you could jump out and you could run sircles around it and i think on that note the shuttle shift is better for him and loader work is easy enough with it and less loss on the hp and better for ground work
Tim, you brought up good points. When I was looking into a new machine 10 yrs ago. I looked at loader lift capacity, the type of work I wanted to do, the scope of work, the size of jobs, and how often I would be hauling on a trailer. I do wish I had gone a smidgen larger in power & weight and a cab.
Tim I'm a John Deere guy. Still got the John Deere 4020 i baled hay with when i was 12 years old. That said you guys should look a test drive a Fendt 3 series. I'm pretty sure Fendt only offers a Vario or cvt or ivt transmission. For loader you can't beat it. You have traditional pedals configuration plus a small foot pedal to act like a accelerator pedal. So you get 2 modes of operation. 1 being the foot pedal or the joystick mode. Either way you still have the reverser lever on the steering wheel or now they have put a button on the loader joystick. Or you can control directions with the joystick. Anyway I'm sure you would both appreciate the Fendt in your operations. I have had the pleasure of test driving the Fendt 1050 with 517 horsepower needless to say I was impressed. All Fendt tractors drive the same. Some models even have the tractor operator seat reverse directions so everything including the steering wheel faces backwards.
Tim I really love your knowledge and professionalism in your videos. I wish you broadened your tech skill into Massey Ferg and New Holland. Yes, Kubota, Summit, Kiota, Mahindra, and others are good for certain needs. But doing a Tractor Shop with M-F and Blue Holland would be exciting and a broader audience.. Just a suggestion. You know your stuff. take care
Some nice tractors. I wish I went little bigger. I like the John deer tractor. The local dealers didn’t give me the time of day when was shopping for my first tractor. So I be shopping for something with a skid steer quick attach because I got some attachments already. Hope your friends hydro plus come up with something for massy.
Funny that you miss one of the main reasons to buy the Deere (or Kubota). Much more support from 3rd parties for the large selling brands. It just doesn’t make financial sense for 3rd parties to invest in brands which sell only a few.
Fair enough. Just remember that the sales guy is one day. The service department, and all the other advantages stick with the tractor for the entire time you have it
@@TractorTimewithTim I agree. There couple massy dealers near me that been selling tractors a long time. Way before my time. It great tractor just should went up a frame size is all.
I agree with both of you, the 4 series is what he needs. But, if I were him I would not give up on the eHydro, once you figure out how to use all the features it is very slick and smooth as glass. This was a great video, you do such a good job on these type of videos, keep them coming.
Hey Tim 👋, Glad to see you made it to Virginia! Next time try to make is out east near Richmond or the Chesapeake Bay. I’m glad JRE was able to accommodate you. I’ve been to Danville before and to Reidsvillle N.C. There is a neat Tank Museum in Danville. Try yo make a visit.
If you have a Kioti dealer around that has some in stock you might want to check out the DK, NS, or NX series's tractors. I just received my NX4510 and it's been a wonderful machine so far and dealer support has been awesome.
Man I can't believe Tim and Christy follow so many of the same You Tube people that I follow. Lol I enjoy the collaboration video. Good point on extra hydraulics and ordering from the factory and/or dealer when purchasing a new tractor. You can wrap it into the deal if you are financing some of the purchase. Another nice thing is you can save on some labor when the dealer is doing an OEM install on multiple rear service hydraulics. In case of the Kubota Grand L series, the labor on 3 OEM levers is the same as one which is what we did. I also like how clean it looks on your work station. Pete may consider the Grand L as they are similar to the 4R series in the larger HP models. We have the smallest Grand L which is quite similar to the 3R series 🤔
Based upon Pete’s description of needs I suggest a 4 series tractor. When I was in the selection process a few years back I found the TYM 574 HST Cab tractor to be the best value. It came with many features the big companies charge extra for. Please feature the TYM machines as you show the shopping experience. Loved the video!
The golf course I've worked for has a CaseIH. I don't recall the "number" but I would say it is similar to the 4 series. Pretty sure it was 53 hp. It has a loader to load sand in their top dresser. They have one of those vertical spike aerators. Shakes the tractor like crazy. Has a hydro transmission.
Good job of determining what he needs! I was going to buy a 4 series but went with a Kubota solely because the JD dealer had a horrible reputation. And there weren’t but one (only one Kubota dealer too). You on the mainland are lucky to have more options! Also, if I knew then what I know now I’d have bought a different model and some different options. I kinda wonder what our dealers are like now! Would I have made a different color choice?
For hauling his sand, he may want to look into a 3 point loader with a hydraulic center link. My father has had one on his Deutz 8006 for years on the farm. His was made by Gnuze Manufacturing. He was able to easily dump loads of manure into a spreader with it. I think for the fellow you're helping this would be able to haul bigger loads and be safer with it.
The way Pete wants the tractor configured it looks like the Deere will be north of $80,000. Very interesting episode. I enjoyed it and look forward to ones looking at alternative brands.
Great video Tim. I find that I really use my speed or cruise control features all the time on my e-hydro 3-4 series machines. I use those electronic speed control features when mowing more as a comfort feature. I use it as needed speed control feature when planting and spraying applications. That feature is a big reason I really want to see Deere bring the E-hydro to something like that 75hp 5 series.
Great video and I think more sales people should sell tractors that way last week I was at my dealership for a coolant hose for my 2 series and overhead the salesman trying to sell the customer a 1025 without the loader and I can’t help but think why would they do that to not try to get the customer to see vuale in the loader and then why buy a 1 series if you’re not doing loader work
Wow! I wish I'd known you guys would be in Danville. I would like to have met you. I only live 20 minutes away. Anyway it was a good video and very informative.
When I was looking to buy a tractor folks would tell me to buy the biggest one I could afford. So I did and my 33R was a great tractor. But I also found myself letting it sit because it was too big for a lot of the jobs I had. My health was also a factor but I bought a 2025R and I have used it more since purchasing it in August than I had my 33R before. My advise is to look at all your needs and what your gut is telling you. Just because you can afford a bigger tractor doesn’t always mean you need one.
I agree with your assessment 100% on the cabbed 4066R w/ e-hydro. When he said he needed/wanted something to keep a consistent slow ground speed, A/C, 2,000 lbs of loader lift, fairly heavy and PTO HP consuming implements, that kind of solved itself. The 5's are too big (I notice a huge difference hauling a 4 series around vs a 5 in weight), don't know if they would be too heavy for turf work and tire options never came up. There would be ZERO issues with loader lift. The 3 series got knocked out of contention due to loader capacity as good as it is. As much as I miss my 5 series, I don't miss the left leg fatigue of clutching all day doing loader work. The 4 series turning radius is far superior in tight places. I used to have to do multiple point turns in my driveway to turn around and now can do it without stopping. The cycle times are way faster with the hydro as well. Going between forward and reverse is much faster and much smoother and even that is adjustable with the e-hydro. Dan.
Tim Great to see you in my neck of the woods. I live in NC where Pete works. I wish I had know this about the Tractors when I was getting one. I would bought a 4066 R rather a 2038R.
You really didn't seam to stress he needs a tractor as light as possible to not leave ruts in the turf outfield and dirt infield, yet big enough to move pallets and sand/dirt. Large wide tires/light tractor/No fluid in tires/ballast only when using loader. Maybe a 2 tractor solution is what he really needs? Or does his existing Vintrac count as that first tractor?
Now I gotta ask, you say deere calls it a power reverse and you were calling it a shuttle. Now is that a true shuttle shift in the sence you have to clutch, stop, shift direction, release the clutch? Or does this function esentually like a backhoe where you come into a pile and your on the throttle, fill your bucket you can let off the throttle, shift direction, and get back into the throttle and your Now moving backwards?
Since he is looking at a lot of loader work, I would recommend industrial tires. The weight carrying capacity is much higher than ag or turf tires. Reading my owner's manual, I was very surprised at the difference.
This was a great video. thanks Tim. i have a 1026R that i am thinking about upgrading. this helped a lot in making the JD waters less muddy....you should get a commission
This was an unexpected collaboration, but an exciting one for me. A fan of both channels before this, and see some opportunity for more collaboration between them.
TTWT - I was wondering about what his “Hauling” capacity was? The weights on the 4 series for sure mean bigger truck bigger trailer for daily use. 3 Series keeps you in the 1/2-3/4ton trailer under 10K, 4 series is 3/4-1ton with 15k trailer and likely longer length to accommodate attachments. I realize his tractor usage needs are first and foremost but if he stretches his budget on a 4series then realizes he needs bigger hauling set up 😅😅😅
Pete mentioned F-350 more than once in their discussions. He mentioned a flat bed and dump bed. While I missed any trailer reference if it was made, he should have enough truck and could upgrade to a 450
@@coypatton3160Ah, ok I must have missed that, but that's great! I know he also has his own channel also and a lot of others are familiar with his equipment capabilities.
Tim I drove 18 wheeler bout near 30 years, will not ever go back to a clutch, Weather is a factor on rimguard for tires , it gets below freezing for about 4 months out the year,I live about 30 miles from where you are at, but good luck on whatever you help him buy...
You probably already shot the next video but a brand to look at or compare would be the Massey 2860M. Not many people throw that tractor into a comparison.
I totally agree! I own 10 tractors all new holland and just purchased a brand new Massey 5711 Dyna 4 110hp machine. After 50 hours work in the first 3ea weeks owning it. It is by far my preferred tractor. With AGCO owning MF. all that engineering is trickling down to MF. AGCO makes Fendt tractors which are the best most feature rich tractors made…. Period . I grew up green to the core but switched to New Holland after Fiat bought them 20 years ago. I much prefer European engineering and quality. Plus the dealer and MF support far exceed anything that I have ever experienced…. Especially from Massey Ferguson corporate reps…. They actually call you back.👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥
I've never been a huge fan of shuttle shift. I think I'd rather just have a standard transmission. But my hydrostatic is my favorite for it's variability, speed, and ease of use.
Great comparison with Deere tractors! One of the best thought out decision comparisons I’ve seen! I wish my dealer would have gone in that much depth with me before I bought my first new tractor. Like ask questions of what my primary use for it was and what Else I’d be using it for! I did buy the right size tractor for my needs but I bought the lowest HP and manual trans…. Traded it in 6 years laters for More HP and an HST….bit of a costly mistake! Would be nice to do another comparison on Kubota tractors
Loved this episode. Especially since he had no knowledge of the tractor options. You didn't cover much about the weight of the tractor on the ballfield. I don't have fluid in my tires just because of early spring mowing. Something to think about.
I know you like small tractors Tim but he is gonna need a bigger HP tractor just to do the work. If his primary work is in ball fields he should get the size. It sounds to me like he really needs a tractor and a loader. That would be expensive but if he is expanding and is gonna need to do more faster. I think the brand is important but the dealer is almost more so. A great tractor with a lamé dealer put you in a whole. Bravo to James River.
How about that Tim you been in my neck of the woods! My daddy actually bought his 5100e at Danville a few years ago and we’ve done quite a bit of business with them since
Tim, I have some indirect experience with James River south of where you were. My son bought a 3 series (nor sure now if an E or R) from James River in Statesville NC a couple of years ago. He went through this brand and size process then. His needs were conflicting in that he needed loader lift capacity but needed to work in tight quarters. He uses the pallet forks a lot but could not get a self leveling loader that would have been useful. I did have one complaint with James River, but they did well on it after the fact-the salesman knew weight concerns on the loader, but they failed to turn up the hydraulic pressure. It would not lift spec weights when delivered. He bought Deere as James River was able to get machines when others could not tell him when stuff would be delivered.
I thought initially the four series HD would be a perfect fit, but I think you can’t get that option with a cab the little bit wider tires and heavier set up for sand would be really nice.
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Every John Deere dealership should be knocking on your door Tim ! Great video and product knowledge.
Watching this video….. lol…. John Deere, if they haven’t already, needs to start sponsoring this Channel.
This is a great video with better content! Two of my favorite guys in a video together. GCI turf does a great job! Pete is so good with details with his work, and Tractor TIm is the master of tractors! Thanks for sharing.
This was fun. The excitement of Pete learning the features, and the excitement of Tim showing him!! Like 2 kids in a toy store! AWESOME
YES!!!!!!! My two favorite RUclipsrs together!!!!
This is such a great video. Instead of complaining about Tim using yellow and green in his now old logo, JD should send him a salesman of the decade award. I've learned more about JD tractors from watching TTWT than I would visiting a dealership 1,000 times. Great seeing Pete too. Two great guys that are both experts in their respective fields.
Thank you for the information that you can't get without hands on. Good job Tim.
This one of the best videos on how to select a piece of equipment I have ever watched. Keep up the good work Tim!
I appreciate the both of you putting great content on RUclips. I also believe your connection beyond the Ventrac, is Godly men.
Nice spaces you toured. The light and windows are amazing in the one space. Would feel less closed in having an outside view.
I'm an Ag salesman for James River Equipment in Ashland VA. I love working for them. Buy a Deere. Not only because of the product but because James River delivers. They will take care of you
wow!It was great to see all that green paint! :D
This takes me back many years to my first compact tractor purchase. Fun to watch Pete go thru the process with Tim. Pete will really like the hydro transmission for his uses, and his comment was correct…“Get all the hydraulics you can get” Blessings.
The two things I have against Deere are:
1. Price. I believe that they are 10 to 20% ish higher. Some of this is made up with dealer network, but asking that much more for a tractor they sub out the manufacturing on is a no-go at least for me. When they did everything in house, I would have looked past this I think.
2. No SSQA. 90% of the rest of the world uses SSQA. When I bought my tractor it was the one thing I had to have. There are many places for me to rent stuff around here, but not one carries Deere attachments for the FEL.
The best thing I see in the Deere line is the dealer support, and the availability of models to fit needs. This video alone showed 12 or so available models in 3 different frame sizes. That is amazing.
I bought my 5045e from James River. I previously only bought/grew up strictly on Massey. But after the buying experience with James River and how they bent over backwards to make sure I got the right tractor, and the quality of it, I will be Deere man from now on.
I did enjoy that video. I watch both you guys. I learned a lot.
I own a 2015 4066r cab tractor. It has the self leveling bucket and the hydrostatic transmission. I do not have any trouble getting a full bucket of material. I load and haul dirt, sand and gravel without any problems. There have been times I wish the bucket tilted back a little more. When using my pallet forks the self leveling is great. Love your channel Tim.
I love you Pete! I love your channel! Tim forgot to mention the BigToolRack which is a good ballast as well as good for hauling so many tools and things.
Tim, can you do more videos like this? You are a really talented salesman!
Wow Christmas came early to RUclips viewing. Tim and Pete doing a collaboration, who knew they were pals. Sure would like to see more of you two working on something in the future. I know Pete said changes were coming to his channel, I'm sensing a cameo appearance by TTWT :). This was one of the better JD tractor series comparisons I've ever seen. I'd hope the Salesman there was taking notes cuz you sure put on a clinic especially with understanding how the customer would be using the chosen tractor. You guys definitely have great chemistry on camera. Hope to see more!
very informative video and helpful.
One picture was the Durham bulls field, in Durham north Carolina
This is really informative. Tim you know everything in detail
As I watched this it became clear as glass that you would be a truly great salesperson for these, Tim. I think I was ready to buy all of them! 😂
I glad that James River took the time to help y’all out. I went there to by my first tractor. They only had two tractors on the lot and the sales staff was to busy to help. So I left and went to Collie Equipment and purchased a Kobota L3901, then two years later traded for a cab LX3310. The owner took the time to make sure I was buying the correct tractor for my needs. I will most likely never own a Deere do to both franchises around me never have time to work with the small customers.
I had the same issue in Delaware going to a deere dealer for mower parts so my son in law didn't have to bring his mower over while we were at our property in the Appalachian mountains. I had ordered the parts over the phone and was in my work clothes driving one of my old dodges. No one offered any assistance as I looked at some equipment on my way out that was in the show room. I then pulled across the street and looked at their used equipment a red one caught my eye 😁. Someone came out with a clipboard wrote some numbers and started to walk away so I asked about the price for the red tractor and was told to write the invoice number down and bring it inside and someone would look it up....everyone had radios on them I was one of only 3 customers I saw in the 40 minutes I was there. Yes I have been looking for the right piece of equipment to have in the mountains and nothing new seems to fit my needs
Good job on explaining hydrostat to your friend. So many don't understand all of the benefits of it. He picked out the exact tractor that I wanted, but I ended up with a 45 horse Kioti because of price.
Welcome to VA Tim!! We are only an hour drive from Danville & would've loved to have made the trip to meet ya if we knew yall where so close! Haha. James River Equipment has been great for us here too! Another great video & it appears you've really helped Pete better understand thenoptions that are available! Looking forward to the next one! Take Care!! 😊
Go green! You will not regret it. This was yet another great video!
Great conversation……. Doing what you love to do. You will be saving Pete time and money.
I love hydraulic self leveling or non self leveling loaders. Every mechanical self leveling loader dumps material out as you raise up
Excellent. I have used a MX6000 about the same size as a large 4 series and everything Tim said about the hydrostatic is true. Doing dirt work but not plowing. Turning quickly to make another pass. Etc
That was very entertaining
2 of my favorite RUclips’rs collaborating! Great job you guys!!
Enjoyed seeing this. You can give him some good advice from running tractors. One thing I would say is 50% dealer support is very important today does not matter if it is John deere are kubota are any other brands. Then I would try and do what you all did here and drive different ones and go with what feels the best .but the first thing would be to pray about it and the dealer God knows best ! Can't wait to see more on this .
Hope you all have a blessed day
Well I have been following you for at least 5 years now. Not just the videos. I have a 1, 3 and 5. Each has its place. I have to admit I like all three and it would be hard choice to go with just one at this point. The biggest smile does come from the 5. Likely because it begins to get into the bigger tractor category. In our town, most are bigger than the 5. I bought I for mowing bigger areas and am setup for dirt / gravel road maintenance. I live in big wheat farms area hanging on hillsides. Toe curling. There are days I just go for a drive during harvest to watch the dance.
Tim is literally a mirror image of me when it comes to tractors. He has the nerdy knowledge and the same passion. Everytime I hear him talk I'm like omg this is exactly almost word for word what I would say. It's because most people are not tractor nerds. We also do similar work except I have a 4044m.
On that note, man I wish I had a 4066R or a cab 5075E like that. The 4066R is like the Cadillac of the tractor world. The 5075 is maybe not so much a Cadillac but it is a true big boy tractor. I just have no need for a 5 series. But that 4066r cab tractor would be a dream 😍🔥
Also have always had hydrostatic, my 3025e, my 4044m, I love it for dirt work, but sometimes I wish I had that extra grunt in low gear that you don't quite have with a hydrostat. But can't go wrong either way.
My my y’all are right by the house in this one. Love it when my favorite RUclipsrs come to town. Must be visiting the in-laws.
Very informative, thanks. Congratulations on 200K
Tim and Pete together oh my. Tim you should hang out with Pete for a week and he can really give you some great content on turf with the attachments you have on my it would be sweet too see.
Great to see you two team up for this video. I've watched many of your videos separately, but glad to see you together sharing knowledge.
For his uses I would suggest adding side tilt as well as the top link. It is really useful in leveling applications.
if you need a creeper speed the manual is better than hydro because set it and forget it my 55 year old tractor can go that speed all day just put it in gear and in a open field you could jump out and you could run sircles around it and i think on that note the shuttle shift is better for him and loader work is easy enough with it and less loss on the hp and better for ground work
Hwy 58 and the Baptist church in the background. Brings back memories growing up in Danville more than 50 years ago ...
Tim, you brought up good points. When I was looking into a new machine 10 yrs ago. I looked at loader lift capacity, the type of work I wanted to do, the scope of work, the size of jobs, and how often I would be hauling on a trailer. I do wish I had gone a smidgen larger in power & weight and a cab.
Tim I'm a John Deere guy. Still got the John Deere 4020 i baled hay with when i was 12 years old. That said you guys should look a test drive a Fendt 3 series. I'm pretty sure Fendt only offers a Vario or cvt or ivt transmission. For loader you can't beat it. You have traditional pedals configuration plus a small foot pedal to act like a accelerator pedal. So you get 2 modes of operation. 1 being the foot pedal or the joystick mode. Either way you still have the reverser lever on the steering wheel or now they have put a button on the loader joystick. Or you can control directions with the joystick. Anyway I'm sure you would both appreciate the Fendt in your operations. I have had the pleasure of test driving the Fendt 1050 with 517 horsepower needless to say I was impressed. All Fendt tractors drive the same. Some models even have the tractor operator seat reverse directions so everything including the steering wheel faces backwards.
Tim I really love your knowledge and professionalism in your videos. I wish you broadened your tech skill into Massey Ferg
and New Holland. Yes, Kubota, Summit, Kiota, Mahindra, and others are good for certain needs. But doing a Tractor Shop with M-F and Blue Holland would be exciting and a broader audience.. Just a suggestion. You know your stuff. take care
Great video again, it will be interesting to see what kind of budget he has for a tractor and what he will get. Thank you
Some nice tractors. I wish I went little bigger. I like the John deer tractor. The local dealers didn’t give me the time of day when was shopping for my first tractor. So I be shopping for something with a skid steer quick attach because I got some attachments already. Hope your friends hydro plus come up with something for massy.
Funny that you miss one of the main reasons to buy the Deere (or Kubota). Much more support from 3rd parties for the large selling brands.
It just doesn’t make financial sense for 3rd parties to invest in brands which sell only a few.
@@TractorTimewithTim when sale people won’t leave there desk to talk to ya that a no go for me.
Fair enough. Just remember that the sales guy is one day. The service department, and all the other advantages stick with the tractor for the entire time you have it
@@TractorTimewithTim I agree. There couple massy dealers near me that been selling tractors a long time. Way before my time. It great tractor just should went up a frame size is all.
Yep. The 1800m series looks nice.
Another good one. Makes me want a new tractor
I agree with both of you, the 4 series is what he needs. But, if I were him I would not give up on the eHydro, once you figure out how to use all the features it is very slick and smooth as glass. This was a great video, you do such a good job on these type of videos, keep them coming.
Excellent discussion.
Hey Tim 👋, Glad to see you made it to Virginia! Next time try to make is out east near Richmond or the Chesapeake Bay. I’m glad JRE was able to accommodate you. I’ve been to Danville before and to Reidsvillle N.C. There is a neat Tank Museum in Danville. Try yo make a visit.
Kid meets candy shop... Great info. I was right there with him on the excitement.
If you have a Kioti dealer around that has some in stock you might want to check out the DK, NS, or NX series's tractors. I just received my NX4510 and it's been a wonderful machine so far and dealer support has been awesome.
Just be sure you show him the Kioti tractor they are a whole lot more affordable than a John Deere or a Kubota .
Man I can't believe Tim and Christy follow so many of the same You Tube people that I follow. Lol I enjoy the collaboration video. Good point on extra hydraulics and ordering from the factory and/or dealer when purchasing a new tractor. You can wrap it into the deal if you are financing some of the purchase. Another nice thing is you can save on some labor when the dealer is doing an OEM install on multiple rear service hydraulics. In case of the Kubota Grand L series, the labor on 3 OEM levers is the same as one which is what we did. I also like how clean it looks on your work station.
Pete may consider the Grand L as they are similar to the 4R series in the larger HP models. We have the smallest Grand L which is quite similar to the 3R series 🤔
How does the hydro on the ventrac differ? He seemed unfirmiliar with how the hydostat worked
Based upon Pete’s description of needs I suggest a 4 series tractor. When I was in the selection process a few years back I found the TYM 574 HST Cab tractor to be the best value. It came with many features the big companies charge extra for. Please feature the TYM machines as you show the shopping experience. Loved the video!
Gotta remember he’s hauling this thing around a lot, loading and unloading it multiple times a day likely?😅
The golf course I've worked for has a CaseIH. I don't recall the "number" but I would say it is similar to the 4 series. Pretty sure it was 53 hp. It has a loader to load sand in their top dresser. They have one of those vertical spike aerators. Shakes the tractor like crazy. Has a hydro transmission.
A true friend will recommend a kubota!
Very informative!
I have the 4066R with a non self leveling loader. Would not want self leveling. My bucket curls all the way back. Also get the HD bucket
Good job of determining what he needs! I was going to buy a 4 series but went with a Kubota solely because the JD dealer had a horrible reputation. And there weren’t but one (only one Kubota dealer too). You on the mainland are lucky to have more options! Also, if I knew then what I know now I’d have bought a different model and some different options. I kinda wonder what our dealers are like now! Would I have made a different color choice?
For hauling his sand, he may want to look into a 3 point loader with a hydraulic center link. My father has had one on his Deutz 8006 for years on the farm. His was made by Gnuze Manufacturing. He was able to easily dump loads of manure into a spreader with it. I think for the fellow you're helping this would be able to haul bigger loads and be safer with it.
If you have TYM near by I’d be interested in seeing his take on the T574HC and the 5520HC vs the 4 series deere.
The way Pete wants the tractor configured it looks like the Deere will be north of $80,000. Very interesting episode. I enjoyed it and look forward to ones looking at alternative brands.
I enjoyed this video. Thanks for sharing.
GREAT episode!!
Great video Tim.
I find that I really use my speed or cruise control features all the time on my e-hydro 3-4 series machines.
I use those electronic speed control features when mowing more as a comfort feature.
I use it as needed speed control feature when planting and spraying applications.
That feature is a big reason I really want to see Deere bring the E-hydro to something like that 75hp 5 series.
pretty cool stuff!
Great video.... will wait for the next one....
Great video and I think more sales people should sell tractors that way last week I was at my dealership for a coolant hose for my 2 series and overhead the salesman trying to sell the customer a 1025 without the loader and I can’t help but think why would they do that to not try to get the customer to see vuale in the loader and then why buy a 1 series if you’re not doing loader work
Wow! I wish I'd known you guys would be in Danville. I would like to have met you. I only live 20 minutes away. Anyway it was a good video and very informative.
When I was looking to buy a tractor folks would tell me to buy the biggest one I could afford. So I did and my 33R was a great tractor. But I also found myself letting it sit because it was too big for a lot of the jobs I had. My health was also a factor but I bought a 2025R and I have used it more since purchasing it in August than I had my 33R before. My advise is to look at all your needs and what your gut is telling you. Just because you can afford a bigger tractor doesn’t always mean you need one.
I agree with your assessment 100% on the cabbed 4066R w/ e-hydro. When he said he needed/wanted something to keep a consistent slow ground speed, A/C, 2,000 lbs of loader lift, fairly heavy and PTO HP consuming implements, that kind of solved itself. The 5's are too big (I notice a huge difference hauling a 4 series around vs a 5 in weight), don't know if they would be too heavy for turf work and tire options never came up. There would be ZERO issues with loader lift. The 3 series got knocked out of contention due to loader capacity as good as it is. As much as I miss my 5 series, I don't miss the left leg fatigue of clutching all day doing loader work. The 4 series turning radius is far superior in tight places. I used to have to do multiple point turns in my driveway to turn around and now can do it without stopping. The cycle times are way faster with the hydro as well. Going between forward and reverse is much faster and much smoother and even that is adjustable with the e-hydro. Dan.
Tim Great to see you in my neck of the woods. I live in NC where Pete works. I wish I had know this about the Tractors when I was getting one. I would bought a 4066 R rather a 2038R.
Great episode
You really didn't seam to stress he needs a tractor as light as possible to not leave ruts in the turf outfield and dirt infield, yet big enough to move pallets and sand/dirt. Large wide tires/light tractor/No fluid in tires/ballast only when using loader. Maybe a 2 tractor solution is what he really needs? Or does his existing Vintrac count as that first tractor?
The large turf tires will overcome any weight. These turfs will distribute the weight.
Now I gotta ask, you say deere calls it a power reverse and you were calling it a shuttle. Now is that a true shuttle shift in the sence you have to clutch, stop, shift direction, release the clutch? Or does this function esentually like a backhoe where you come into a pile and your on the throttle, fill your bucket you can let off the throttle, shift direction, and get back into the throttle and your Now moving backwards?
Shift on the go from forward to reverse. No clutch.
@Tractor Time with Tim good to know Tim thanks!!!!
Since he is looking at a lot of loader work, I would recommend industrial tires. The weight carrying capacity is much higher than ag or turf tires. Reading my owner's manual, I was very surprised at the difference.
This was a great video. thanks Tim. i have a 1026R that i am thinking about upgrading. this helped a lot in making the JD waters less muddy....you should get a commission
Get skid steer acctachment on loader ,very handy, and add lever disconnect for hydraulic 3 valve on loader
Yall was in my neck of the woods. I wouldve loved to have invited yall to church. Well I'm a couple hours west of Danville.
This was an unexpected collaboration, but an exciting one for me. A fan of both channels before this, and see some opportunity for more collaboration between them.
TTWT - I was wondering about what his “Hauling” capacity was?
The weights on the 4 series for sure mean bigger truck bigger trailer for daily use. 3 Series keeps you in the 1/2-3/4ton trailer under 10K, 4 series is 3/4-1ton with 15k trailer and likely longer length to accommodate attachments. I realize his tractor usage needs are first and foremost but if he stretches his budget on a 4series then realizes he needs bigger hauling set up 😅😅😅
Pete mentioned F-350 more than once in their discussions. He mentioned a flat bed and dump bed. While I missed any trailer reference if it was made, he should have enough truck and could upgrade to a 450
@@coypatton3160Ah, ok I must have missed that, but that's great! I know he also has his own channel also and a lot of others are familiar with his equipment capabilities.
Great demos Tim. Wish I have had that when I bought my tractor. I probably would have gotten a compact instead of a subcompact Kubota BX23s.
Happy to report I have joined the compact tractor club. Found a good deal on a L2501 Kubota with only 90 hours
Congratulations!
@@TractorTimewithTim thank you! Been watching for years. Can't wait to start adding attachments
Tim I drove 18 wheeler bout near 30 years, will not ever go back to a clutch, Weather is a factor on rimguard for tires , it gets below freezing for about 4 months out the year,I live about 30 miles from where you are at, but good luck on whatever you help him buy...
a grapple is a must
You probably already shot the next video but a brand to look at or compare would be the Massey 2860M. Not many people throw that tractor into a comparison.
I totally agree! I own 10 tractors all new holland and just purchased a brand new Massey 5711 Dyna 4 110hp machine. After 50 hours work in the first 3ea weeks owning it. It is by far my preferred tractor. With AGCO owning MF. all that engineering is trickling down to MF. AGCO makes Fendt tractors which are the best most feature rich tractors made…. Period . I grew up green to the core but switched to New Holland after Fiat bought them 20 years ago. I much prefer European engineering and quality. Plus the dealer and MF support far exceed anything that I have ever experienced…. Especially from Massey Ferguson corporate reps…. They actually call you back.👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥
Tim thoroughly enjoyed this video. Kinda wish you had done this years ago.
Wouldn’t have been able to do it years ago. Didn’t have the knowledge or opportunity.
I bought my John Deere from James River Equipment in Ashland Virginia about 5 years ago
I've never been a huge fan of shuttle shift. I think I'd rather just have a standard transmission. But my hydrostatic is my favorite for it's variability, speed, and ease of use.
Hey Tim! Welcome to NC!
His wife is from NC. Raleigh area I think so he is still about 3 hrs from there. Bet they visit. Guessing they see stony Ridge next.
Great comparison with Deere tractors! One of the best thought out decision comparisons I’ve seen!
I wish my dealer would have gone in that much depth with me before I bought my first new tractor. Like ask questions of what my primary use for it was and what Else I’d be using it for! I did buy the right size tractor for my needs but I bought the lowest HP and manual trans….
Traded it in 6 years laters for More HP and an HST….bit of a costly mistake!
Would be nice to do another comparison on Kubota tractors
Loved this episode. Especially since he had no knowledge of the tractor options. You didn't cover much about the weight of the tractor on the ballfield. I don't have fluid in my tires just because of early spring mowing. Something to think about.
I know you like small tractors Tim but he is gonna need a bigger HP tractor just to do the work. If his primary work is in ball fields he should get the size. It sounds to me like he really needs a tractor and a loader. That would be expensive but if he is expanding and is gonna need to do more faster.
I think the brand is important but the dealer is almost more so. A great tractor with a lamé dealer put you in a whole.
Bravo to James River.
How about that Tim you been in my neck of the woods! My daddy actually bought his 5100e at Danville a few years ago and we’ve done quite a bit of business with them since
Tim, I have some indirect experience with James River south of where you were. My son bought a 3 series (nor sure now if an E or R) from James River in Statesville NC a couple of years ago. He went through this brand and size process then. His needs were conflicting in that he needed loader lift capacity but needed to work in tight quarters. He uses the pallet forks a lot but could not get a self leveling loader that would have been useful.
I did have one complaint with James River, but they did well on it after the fact-the salesman knew weight concerns on the loader, but they failed to turn up the hydraulic pressure. It would not lift spec weights when delivered. He bought Deere as James River was able to get machines when others could not tell him when stuff would be delivered.
Excellent demo, wonder though, nothing was mentioned about size of field gates that he might have to access.
I thought initially the four series HD would be a perfect fit, but I think you can’t get that option with a cab the little bit wider tires and heavier set up for sand would be really nice.