These Are The Most RANDOM NHL Award Winners Of All Time
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I disagree. Perfectly unremarkable.
Dude Jose Theodore was really really good.
Yea I was just think that, they guy was around in the league for years and was always great
he didn't deserve the MVP though...a couple Montreal reporters left Iginla off their ballots completely.
So far as Barrett Jackman is concerned: It's easy to forget that it was a different NHL back then. Certain types of players were valued over others which would not have been as useful in our NHL. It's for reasons like this that players such as Brooks Orpik (heavy hitting, not high scoring) were first round draft picks. Shut down defensemen in these days weren't just useful players but were neseccary to the game that was played pre-lockout. Yes, Zetterburg and Nash are overall better players, but people had a good reason for considering Jackman a good rookie. That said, BEST rookie can for sure be argued, but it doesn't seem to me unreasonably out of the realm out possibilities that he was selected.
What I love about Cheechoo's random win is that, unlike the others, his win wasn't a judgment call. It was just raw numbers - for some unknown random reason, he just had more goals.
Calder Trophy is littered with anomalies but that's not that surprising: who you are today is not who you will develop into.
He could have been rally good without all those knee problems after rocket season. Pretty sure he got surgery in both of his knees.
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Jose Theodore is French Canadian, so the J is pronounced like in English NOT like an H like in Spanish.
Sal K So it would be Joe-say and not Ho-say?
@@spenceranderson2072 you're almost there , more like in one word jozay and the S is more spelled like a Z
Théo esti!
@Charles Szasz OK Charles Finjzzbezzer...or however you pronounce it. Doesn't matter, amirite?
Jonathan Cheechoo was always an absolute beast in NHL 06 and puts up 50 goals every season in it
Steve Mason actually is a goalie coach now for Tavaras’s Hometown (its actually oakville)
Cheechoo blew his knees out and was never the same after
Was gonna say. Cheechoo fought injuries basically every year after his rocket season
Double hernia surgery in 2007
He also blew a lot of blow up his nose
As a fellow Detroit fan that Jackman Calder still hurts. Z was underrated from day one lol
As an NHL fan it hurts. 19 points?? That's awful. Zetterberg definitely should have won it
@@adavis688 - Can't really measure DEFENSEMEN by how many points they score....
@@ericmaloney3889 I agree, but I think you can measure them by how FEW points they score. They still need to make things happen on the ice and 19 doesn't cut it - when your other option for an award is a guy like Zetterberg
Adam Davis points really don’t matter for a defender as much as defensive play does.
@@goff38 if a defender had zero points but was a great defender do you think he would win the norris? of course points matter. certainly not as much, but 19 is a travesty for someone to win a major award. that's all i'm saying
“...shaky for a long time before they had Carter Hart”
Since Ron Hextall left, they had:
John Vanbiesbrouck
Brian Boucher
Roman Cechmanek
Robert Esche
Martin Biron
Antero Niittymaki
Ray Emery
Brian Boucher
Sergei Bobrovsky
Ilya Bryzgalov
Steve Mason
Brian Elliot
All those guys were past their prime, before their prime, or below league average starters
Bobrovsky wasn't given a chance because the Flyers wanted to go with Bryzgalov.
Uhhh, most of those guys were pretty shaky.
Joe out of all of them, Cechmanek was the most consistent regular season goalie
that's 12 Goalies in less than 20 years. Most other Teams had four or Five starting Goalies in that time span. There's a reason why there were so many. None of them could get shit done in Philly. Not that they were all bad, but some were past their prime like Beezer or didn't get the opportunity like Bob or they were busy studiying the universe like Bryzgalov
Love the vids. Excellent voice, well pacing, intriguing all the way through. Very well written/thought about. I like these vids. Good stuff man 👍
I noticed that u did the quiz for the goalies that started the most games in the last decade. If I made the quiz for players that played the most minutes in the past decade would u do it?
In my franchise mode for nhl 20, Nick Ritchie put up 49 goals and 71 assists for 120 points. He won the art ross, selke, and rocket richard.
You mentioned Jim Carey and Steve Mason but not Andrew Raycroft?
gogolplex74 he had an amazing year when he won it
Ben Ward So did Carey and Mason?
@Christian Stokes A .926 sv% is a great year. He was decent 3 other years. The rest of his career he was hot garbage.
I mean James is pretty over rated.
Shawnaldo75 it is when they're bad
Barret jackman won because nobody was very good this year finalist
Nash 39 pts -27 zetterberg 44 pts+6 jackman 19 pts 190 pim play 20 min per game 230 hits very good defensvely +23
Yeah defense is so underrated these days..
*Joe-say Tay-oh-door*
Lmao thank you
Dude voyon calice Jose dit comme ça
@@marcroy5089 Je ne parle pas français. 🤷♂️
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''hose'' lmao
Don’t forget Steve Mason is an right handed goalie. Something that’s rare in today’s game.
Jay Eyak so is Varlamov
Varlamov is left handed
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Barrett Jackman was awesome in St. Louis. Loved watching him here. Very like able guy
Gainey winning the conn smythe resembles claude lemieux winning it with new jersey 1995.
Its not the wrong choice and it doesnt matter what he did in the regular season.
Same with Roy 1986.
Sergei Makarov winning the Calder at the age of 31 is an oddity. They changed the rules after he won, too.
José Théodore is not Spanish-speaking, but French. The "J" is pronounced as in Jonathan (in French, it's a softer J, not like "Joe" where there seems to be a d in front of it).
Shut up
Bobby Orr won all (4) Major NHL Awards IN A SINGLE SEASON ! No other player has ever done that, even over an entire Career. Stunning.
Goddamn, the Florida Panthers is where goaltenders go to retire.
Well, ya.......it’s Florida
"How shaky their goaltending situation was until Carter Hart came around". The hype that Carter Hart got is amusing.
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I will die on the hill that Théodore probably is the goalie with one of the most deserved hart trophies along with Hasek / is one of the most under appreciated players ever, guy was an absolute stud when on his game and the MTL media tore him to shreds
I absolutely agree with you. I’m a Ducks fan who grew up watching Giguere, but Theodore was a goalie I loved to watch as well. The sad reality is outside factors can screw up a persons future play. I hate when people call these goaltenders overrated. They were truly special to watch. In my case, I always credit JS Giguere for me falling in love with hockey.
we need a part 2 of this
I love how u raised the volume on " zetterberg shouldve won" :)
The year Bob Gainey won the Conn Smyth, he played in the final with 2 dislocated shoulder...Warrior is not enough to describe it !
Tim Thomas' Conn Smythe performance level was short lived as well.
Maurice Richard well he was 37 when he won it
Thomas was old, it was expected that there may not be many more years of him after the cup win especially since Rask was right behind him
Steve Mason also finished 3rd in Vezina voting in that 08-09 season
Have you done a "guys who were traded multiple times in the same season" video? I looked back a few month on your channel and haven't seen one, but I think it'd be interesting to see how that final trade of the season worked out for them. For example, Alex Galchenyuk getting traded to Pittsburgh during the off-season, struggling, and being traded for Zucker, and seemed to be doing really well for the Wild.
Towards the end of his career when he played with the Capitals, I remember people calling Jose Theodore "Jose Three-or-More" because he seemed to give up 3 or more goals most games.
In Colorado we called him The Odor because he stunk so bad at his position.
2:19 has me dead
2:22 fellow salty Wings fan. I did check hockeyreference and Iggy had 6 more points his rookie year but I would have loved to see my captain win
Steve Mason had a solid start to his next season pairing after winning the Calder with Mattheau Garon and had the Jackets positioned well. Until the Veteran's day game when he gave up 3 goals in the first. Hitchcock decided to make an example of it and put him back in where he would give up a total of 9 goals to the Red Wings at home. After that game, they fell flat the rest of the season and dropped from contention to lottery team. Mason never seemed fully comfortable in goal after that game and although he had some bounceback with Philly, never had the same stats.
it was kind of insane how good Steve Mason was and how he just fell from grace
By the numbers, it looks like a confidence problem. He was damn good from 2012-2016 and had a damn good rookie season. That's why coaches and GM's always talk about how they don't want players to lose their swagger. A goalie who can brush off goals like nothing is better than a guy who's a brick wall but confidence made of glass. The wrong puck or two and it all comes crashing down.
The injury bug got the better of Steve Mason. He had a terrible groin injury dating back to his junior career after being traded from the London Knights to the Kitchener Rangers. It seemed he never was able to fully recover fron that injury as it reared it's ugly head from time to time since he turbed pro. Add a terrible groin injury along with a fragile back and left knee and it's the kiss of doom for any pro let alone a goalie.
Big part of his Calder was the team he was on. Had one of if not the best defensive coaches in the era and a defensive core that had been together for awhile. He still played well but it was served up to him on a silver platter
Not like this really means anything, but I still think it’s cool. Steve mason’s goalie coach when he won the Calder was the first goalie coach I worked with as a kid. I’ve always found that neat lol 😂
2:19 who definitely should’ve won 😂😂😂😂😂
Thebassmixerguy his mic got so loud lmao
Sounds like leafy
I mean, he should have
Can you say in your next vidéo Happy Birthday Alex! He's my friend and he loves your channel you would be super happy! Btw nice vidéo man!
Cheechoo was playing injured after his 56G goal season, and didn't have double hernia surgery until 2007
In lockout shortened 2013, PK Subban winning the Norris for best Defenseman despite PK not playing any defense.
Sorry For Suggesting This Twice, Can You Do A Vezina Ranking
You should do a q & a just because all subjects are just eventually gonna go away sadly just getting out there for more ideas
i honestly would have Al Rollins on this list. Yes he was mentioned but definitely a random and surprising winner. The guy went 12-47-5 with five shutouts and took home the Hart trophy as league MVP.
Jim Carey was the first name to come to mind for me. Waited to see him on this list and completely agree with it
I knew Cheechoo would be your anchor on this list. What a crazy ass season he had. Definitely coattailed Thornton to that award.
Can you do some KHL vids? Love your vids though!
I think the KHL is copyrighted so hard you cant even show pictures or videos ( not sure, thats what I heard but im obviously not a expert on this and have done absolutly no research lol)
the russians told that the best hockey player in the world in the end of the 70's startof the 80's was Bob Gainey also you forgot Andrew Raycroft who won the calder in front of Trent Hunter and Micheal Ryder
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Thank you :)
What you deserve it because channel is always good to watch and to kill some time of even to relax
@@hendawg7boss40 eh, 35k subs isn't bad for four years.
Reagan Harder yeah but still
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LOL rip headphone users at 2:20
Claude Lemieux winning Conn Smythe in 1995 was pretty surprising
He is mainly known as an enforcer and dirty player, but could score lots of goals in the play offs
Bill Ranford also seems kind of random as a winner
Ahah, love the shade thrown on the '03 Calder.
But, yeah, Z should've got this one.
@Kevin Badger Oh yeah, Jackman's stats were really impressive, no doubt about it.
Maybe OhNyquist and I have way too much Red Wing bias xD
José Théodore was both really good & a massive superstar at the time. It also led to his downfall, he was an addict / alcoholic and kind of crumbled under pressure being a Montreal native superstar playing in Montreal. He wasn't bad in Col & Was, actually pretty solid.
Steve Mason 😂
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Paul, Steve was sexy when he was in Columbus. Don’t @ me.
Mason's rookie season was very similar to Pekka Rinne's, so I never understood why he won the trophy and not one of the other players he mentioned and why Mason was praised so much, when there was another goalie playing on the same level as him.
CBJackets LOL I just saw his now XD. How ya doing Skip.
The year Jackman won the Calder he was playing alongside Al Macinnis for St Louis. The year Cheechoo won the Rocket is right about when one piece sticks hit the market.
Video idea: what would your Team Canada, USA, Sweden, Russia, Finland and Czech Republic look like?
Jose Theodore was really good, and he even got a goalie goal.
Steve mason was so good for the flyers
Can you do a recap on everyone that has retired and left the nhl over quarantine
Steve Mason was a beast his rookie season. Loved watching that guy play for cbj
I picked him up in fantasy hockey as a shot in the dark mid season and he just turned into a shutout machine
You should do best player from every USHL team. Go riders go!
Panarin winning the Calder was also random. Just an UFA from Russia that was 23, then goes off.
The Problem is what's your Definition of a Rookie: Most of the Europeans who come to the NHL played in a Men's League before, so Pettersson shouldn't have won, Matthews shouldn't have won because he played in Switzerland, Malkin shouldn't have won, Ovi shouldn't have won
Johnny the Machine the CHL, USHL, and NCAA have men in their leagues
@@ianmudd1383 never saw a 30+ year old in these Leagues
@@johnnythemachine6949 Panarin was 24, and Matthews played in the SHL with older guys same as Dahlin and Petterson
The only reason Theodore won the Hart trophy over a clear winner in Jarome Iginla is because one of the voters decided to leave Iginla completely off their ballot. It was done with intent, either so Theodore would win, or that Jarome would lose. That voter was from Quebec. Derive what motivations you will.
Injuries during 06-07 season ruined Cheechoo's skating. He was too slow to get to the scoring position at time after those. Hands still worked and he scored when he had a chance.
The slow vertical scroll of pics in this video is maddening.
Everytime he said ''Jose Theodore'' it made my ears bleed. Hes from Quebec!
Sergei Makarov? Although he had a short career, he won the Calder at 31 years of age.
Man Jose Theodore was unreal for a while, he doesn't really surprise me at all...This was difficult to say as a leafs fan
Could you do a list of NHL Defenseman who won the Hart Trophy ? Thank you
Only pronger and orr
if the jets make the playoffs this season, i think that Hellebuyck deserves the Hart trophy. he absolutely carried them to even being above .500
I definately remember jim carey. Always wondered how his career fell off a map. Like, he was here one year, and gone the next.
Should have mentioned Daren Puppa in the race for 95-96 Vezina.
Yeah i thought Chechoo and Carrey must be on this list... wow
Barret Jackman signed a 1 day contract to finish his career with the blues I think
dr.House was also called Jackman !?!?
Do this list for the Jack Adams award.
About the shaky goaltending situation in Philly before Carter Hart came around: Carter Hart was the worst player to play in NHL in 2020/2021.
Hey, Jackman did pretty alright for himself his rookie season
Can u do redraft of 2003
Iggy should’ve won MVP, he was on pace for 110pts in a compressed season on top of winning Olympic gold
Definitively. He led the League in Goals and Points while playing on a bad Team and he was the first Art Ross Winner after 20 years not named Gretzky, Lemieux or Jagr
i love the van canucks lol yay
no mention of john scotts all-star mvp? or sergei makarovs calder trophy at 31 yrs old
Good list but I expected Andrew Raycroft to be here as well
Yo I'm your biggest fan
K wait, a +23 with only 13 points? Shutdown defensemen is no joke...
What about Brent burns? One of the worst defensive defenseman in the nhl yet he won defenseman of the year
Hose Theodore, first Cuban in the NHL
Next year the channel about to be called OhLafrenière
Why would he name it after a Ottawa player, he's a wings fan isn't he?
James Kilgour wings are worse
@@alexovechkinsgolfbag1591 Ottawa have the sharks pick, so statistically have a higher chance of picking first
Being the only Shark to score 50 goals is not random, it's a statistic. A very specific one, actually.
I'm fine with Théodore winning the Vézina in 2002, but the Hart trophy should definitely have gone to Iginla... He was a monster that season. Iginla is arguably one of the most underrated players of all time anyway.
Jackman's rookie year was weaker than it looks in retrospect. Zetterberg only scored 22 goals, and 22 assists. Not shabby, but not eye popping. Nash had worse stats. Jackman meanwhile played on the top pairing most of the year and over 20 minutes a game. He had a great plus minus of plus 23 all things considered. Jackman was asked to do more, and delivered. If Zetterberg put up more points he would have easily won. Those stats won't win the Calder most years, which is why he didn't that year despite a significantly better career.
I was here for VEZINA RECIPIENT Jim Carrey and was not disappointed
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@@dominickkamssu6790 yup
No Andrew Raycroft or Justin Williams winning the Conn Smythe on the Kings third line