How Butterfree Stunned Competitive Players.
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- Pokemon Competitive Singles in Gen 3 is full of creative players. Despite it's many shortcomings, Butterfree has more merit than you might think. Thanks to Compound Eyes, Butterfree can boost the accuracy of Sleep Powder and Stun Spore, making it one of the only Pokemon in the game with these 2 accurate forms of status.
Butterfree sets itself apart from Smeargle thanks to it's Bug/Flying typing providing Ground immunity, Arena Trap immunity and of course Spike immunity.
Butterfree also has access to Thief for a form of item removal. How incredibly useful.
Butterfree is considered the greatest Pokemon in human history by many scholars.
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Fun fact: at VGC in sword and shield before the DLC, Butterfree was viable as a redirecter since it was the only user of rage powder.
Was Gigantamax Butterfree any good or did people run standard Dynamax on it?
@@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan neither, because it's not a good use of Dmax or Gmax
@@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafanyou would never dinamax cause rage powder wouldn't work anymore
But gigantamax was better
@@thatseconddude-g4t ok that makes sense
Gigantamax butterfree was actual decent in doubles due to max airstream speed boosts + it's gmax move being busted if you got the 1/3 sleep or even the 1/3 paras, which affected both opponents!
Guunsk Prrilbus here: the main partner for Rain Dance Butterfree is Kingdra! I just didnt need to bring it out, the sheer power of the Butterfree-Electrode core was just too powerful.
Also an extremely funny tech option on Butterfree is Nightmare. Mega inconsistent, but punishes folks staying in to burn a sleep turn expecting Butterfree to have no damage output. Also makes Butterfree actually capable of closing out a game in a last-pokemon scenario. Not likely, but technically possible!
How did you even get the idea of using butterfree?
@@CoNteMpTone I saw someone else trying to build with it in the adv revival discord and was inspired by the sheer audacity of it. Plus I've always loved the lil guy
Very impressive use of the sweet lil butterfly wouldn't have expected electrode to be such a good partner for it
Nice RvB mon names
Cool team but YWNBA
Let's not forget Simone Lim, who ran a Choice Scarf, status-only Butterfree in Gen 8 to become 2020's Junior Division champion. Of course, the rest of her team was more typical, which included Tyranitar, Whimsicott, Rotom-Heat, Excadrill and Gyarados, but still...finding a place for such an otherwise terrible Pokemon is something to be admired.
Thats Incredible
testament to why sleep clauses are a thing when butterfree can be this useful
Status Scarf honestly doesn't seem like a bad idea.
@@hiimemily It works when your only niche is spreading incredibly accurate status moves.
But Simone's real feat, was how she successfully predicted her opponent's move at the most vital moment. She was down to just her Tyranitar with her opponent - the defending champion - having a Dusclops and a Rhyperior. She was torn between the choice of going for the Dusclops and the Rhyperior. She chose to attack Dusclops with Crunch while the Rhyperior Protected. She then finished the Rhyperior with Superpower to finish the battle and snatch the crown off her opponent's head.
@@JanusHoWi remember that match. the guy who lost definitely punched a wall afterward. she was putting multiple mons to sleep
With its access to high accuracy Sleep and Paralysis moves, Butterfree can seriously be an asset towards your team because your opponent might fall from their chair in sheer confusion at the sight of the Pokemon, winning you the match in an instant.
Your opponent hurt themselves in confusion and fainted from the outrageous play.
Low bst pokemon finding viability gives me happiness
Now we just need extreme speed beedrill to be viable.
You heard it from the man himself.
Butterfree is now an ADV OU staple.
This is insane.
I’m going to use butter free in my first adv game ever
@@glob-zt5ci I used it in pretty much every game on the ladder today. I even met a few fellow butterfree enjoyers here and there, even an insane man THAT HAD A CATERPIE.
Please take off your hats for him.
Jimothy, sorry to disappoint you, but I am in fact alarmed by the thunder electrode in the back 😅
Butterfree has invaded my home. I heard munching from my closet and opened it to see the butterfly had grown enormous. I tried to run but could not outpace the Compound Eyes-boosted Sleep Powder. I cried, "This is insane!" before the well-predicted Thief killed me instantly.
Bre the thief on the choice band was huge
That aero lost so much after that thief
As a Nuzlocker who swears by the butterfly gen 3 and on, this brings a smile to my face
Bro i had a Beautifly who single handedly saved me from platinum fantina after killing my gabite and ponyta. Mismagius was paralyzed for 4 turns straight as i kept chipping with gust
I love compoundeyes sleep powder dream eater. Like dream eater doesn't work in competitive at all, but it's fun in singleplayer
Awesome vid, I'm the guy at the end of the video!
Butterfree performed amazingly but I think there were two more pivital moments that sealed our game.
The read to switch in butters and outspeed meta coming in was top knotch. The mind game outplay to sleep the celebi switch in was excellent as well, but it was the hydro pump miss on meta that turned it around, and then the flinch to clench it. Vape would have maintained advantage.
Very wp either way, it's nice to be featured! Now I wait for people to discover Typhlosion...
PS. Yes that crit on gar was absolutely unfair 😂 exhilarating game all around ❤
The best Pokemon ever made.
This is insane.
Heracross has invaded my home. I heard munching from my closet and opened it to see the beetle had grown enormous. I tried to run, but could not outpace the Salac-boosted bug. I cried, "This is insane!" before the Swarm-boosted megahorn killed me instantly.
That's crazoi
Butterfree seems to somehow be viable in high tiers way more often than it should. It's a massive annoyance in Anything Goes of all places, accurate sleep, quiver dance, and baton pass in a tier where there's no sleep clause and no baton pass ban is genuinely quite good.
I think this just proves the power of having an accurate sleep moves. It can make a pokemon with mediocre to bad stats into a threat
people really shouldn't be surprised after seeing Smeargle in ubers for like 3 gens straight lmao.
Also Vivillion in AG, who also have Sleep Powder and Compound Eyes. It can even be EV'ed to survive one Mega-Ray's Extreme Speed and Sleep it in return.
This is exactly why Gen 3 OU is the best Meta of all time. Butterfree having great utility but no one gave it a bat's eye due to existance of Tyranitar, it's very low BST, and terrible typing. The literal fact that it wasn't just great, it was one of the main reasons why you won that battle is just beyond words.
Gen 3 content is probably my favorite, too bad I’m not bright enough to play at a high level.
Gen 3 really allowed for mons to have very distinct roles that provide value even if they aren't cracked
i like how you narrated your thought process, gives a lot of good insight for my own matches
I’d love a Compound Eyes Pokémon with Rock STAB or coverage, as Rock is only really held back offensively by its poor accuracy.
And Bug/Rock typing gets a lot of flack, but I think it's actually pretty solid. It only has 3 weaknesses, one of which is Steel and only really counts when it's Metagross' Meteor Mash. Its resistances aren't a lot, but it's defensively neutral to a lot that either type on its own would be weak to. I think Compound Eyes would be a very reasonable ability for Armaldo, honestly.
@@reddragonair3147
It only resists normal and poison, it's only immune to sandstorm residual damage.
On the offense, bug is resisted by 7 types and rock moves are ok, but commonly inaccurate.
Not that good if you think about it.
If you want a similar combination, but with better utility, try grass/rock
@@MKL874 Well that's what people tend to say. But the combination of Rock and Bug is pretty solid for STAB, and as an offensive Pokemon being defensively neutral to everything but 3 types is pretty good. It also doesn't have any double weaknesses, so depending on stats it can net you some useful switch in opportunities. Also, if you remember, this is a theoretical for a Rock type with Compound Eyes, so accuracy for Rock moves wouldn't be a problem anyway.
@@MKL874 Also keep in mind that you aren't usually going to be solely reliant on your STABS for damage. Very few offensive Pokemon do. Usually you're using coverage like Earthquake, recognizing that things resist STABS almost inevitably.
@@MKL874 That's specifically why the topic was Compound Eyes potentially being good for a Rock type. Because by type chart, Rock is actually tied with Ground as being the best offensive type, Rock moves simply tend to be inaccurate.
For the record, your recommendation of Grass/Rock doesn't match the arguments you use against Bug/Rock. Grass is also resisted by 7 types, and the combination also only resists two types defensively while having MORE weaknesses than Bug/Rock.
Metagross exploding after getting his lunch money stolen by Butterfree is fucking COMICAL.
I can't believe Blaziken finally did something. This is insane.
Maybe Blaziken has finally found its ADV OU niche as a butterfree check.
I will never underestimate Butterfree ever since I encountered one that took out my Chansey alone with a Sleep Powder, Infestation, Nightmare set.
Butterfree I believe has always had a good time with being the rogue option. It'll never really be meta but being an anti meta it does surprisingly well.
Considering how it played a huge part in making this video happen, I'd say ButteRentFree was a top-tier nickname. 😂
Interesting how Gen 3 is the only OU tier where the top threats are just slow enough for this butterfly to actually accomplish something.
Really shows that the writers of the anime had to write Ash's Butterfree out because it was too useful in solving any conflict considering how potent status conditions are in the show as well. (I remember that most of the time it didn't even attack... it would just Sleep Powder and win)
and that was before abilitys even was a thing hehehehe
I never understood how anyone could find Butterfree useless after a Butterfree became my primary pokemon in Leaf Green. With a super accurate sleep-inducing move and very early access to Dream Eater, Butterfree quickly became the highest level mon on my team, and carried me through the entire game.
I mean that's the point of the early bug pokémon. They evolve fast and are particularly strong for the early game, but tend to fall off later once mons start evolving and they no longer have the statistical advantage. Of course any mon can be good in-game if you overlevel them enough.
Well, competitive doesn't usually work much like the single-player campaigns. The level of strategy and planning is something else entirely. NPCs almost never switch out, but it's super common in competitive because a good guess on your opponent's action can give you a huge advantage.
Basically, NPCs won't really stop you from using Sleep Powder + Dream Eater all day long, but competitive players will try to outspeed you or use substitute and your Butterfree will likely be OHKO'd by anything it doesn't resist/ignore, so with it's meh speed it's just a free KO for your opponent if you don't predict correctly to get it in safely.
@@ZeroKitsunealso dream eater is pretty hard to use with sleep clause being a thing
@@PorkpieJohnny It should say everything you need to know that the rules of pokemon were changed for competitive simply because of how powerful certain strategies are. The thing Butterfree excels at is so game-warpingly strong the rules specifically disallow it from being used to its full potential.
I was weak when you said “don’t be alarmed when I say this but a Thunder electrode in the back lol”
It's nice to see one of my long time favorites getting love in competitive play
butterfree be like 🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋: if they sleepin on you 😴😴😴😴tuck em in😈😈😈😈😈
ah yes, we all remember that one episode where butterfree was released by ash
This video gonna single-handedly get Butterfree to OU
Low Stats bug but has good ability...
Shedinja: Is he Talking about me??
Butterfree: No dude, Can't you see my Greatness....
With that opening line I cannot wait for the VSauce and Jimothy Cool crossover. Maybe Michael from VSauce will be the next guest-narrator for ADV Revival?
I can't wait to see BKC's analysis on the rise of Butterfree in ADV OU ten years from now, alongside how Poliwrath completely warped the metagame. This will be insane
I’m so happy you used butterfree at the end
I honestly thought you'd be going over the gimmicky Sleep Powder + Nightmare combo.
Fun fact I had a butterfree in my childhood team and now I am using it in Stadium tournaments we are organizing in my channel! Butterfree is better than my beloved charizard in rentals!
Yo it’s an honor to be shown being beaten by a butterfree (Caugero btw)
Ingenious use of Blaziken could see it rise, perhaps all the way to UU. But it will never get to OU, too many good mixed attackers, like Poliwrath.
It’s UUBL bro it’s already ABOVE UU
This is insane, butterfree might be the most powerful pokemon of all time
Well done by these players I love seeing underrated Pokemon get some spotlight especially when it's one of my favorites
“Unspeakable Acts” sounds like the past paradox form of Sableye
Alternative title: How Butterfree stun-spored competitive players.
"(Metagross) seems like it fits with the aggressive pace of the team."
The team with BUTTERFREE is aggressive which is hilarious to think about.
i have fought this guy when he was using lead typhlosion. Beleive me lum berry dragonite made me sputter too
Butter free making everyone paralyzed
Butter-"sometimes faster than dragonite"-free
I love how butterfree is so bad, it's optimal to give it no item, and just thief whatever
"I can't be better than I am, but I can certainly make you worse"
Tbh thief is super good getting rid of someone's leftovers especially when they aren't immune to sand is pretty big also helps spike damage rack up damage quicker
That has absolutely nothing to do with butterfree being bad. You're just describing any pokemon with thief
it happens to have access to thief which is a powerful move in gen 3 making it a nobrainer to put it on most sets. Either stun, sleep or/and then thief the switch in. 3 choices that are guaranteed to cause mayhem
Strategically, NOT disrupting your opponent's strategy is a sub-optimal play.
The only time it would ever be more optimal to boost your strategy instead of interfere with the opponent's strategy is if your strategy has a favorable matchup against their strategy in the first place.
The butter lives rent free in out heads. This is insane.
I will say this. As a man that played the very first pokemon. Butterfrees potential is limitless. I exclusively played her in Gold. Before i gave up my Gold version gmby color game, Buttery was not only undefeated but also nearly unstoppable. Trained her from the ground up, zero rare candys, and every vitamin buff you could get with acuracy and special defense as my focus. I trained it against its weaknesses to give it just a hairs edge to at least survive any obvious super effective hits. And viola.......unstoppable. moves i had were sleep powder, leechseed, dream eater, and phsycic. Anything i couldnt take out with dream eater or phsycic, leechseed did the work. I never switched. Often times taking on an entire set of pokemon leaving maybe 1 or 2 in my opponents pocket. And i always told them, if you loose more than 2 pokemon to Butterfree, you will loose no matter how good you are because i spent that much time on her as one of my most favorite pokemon that was equally heavily underrated. What usually followed after her was either a Glass Cannon built Gengar i had in my back pocket as either a stall or take out pokemon or a Typhlosion who could usually take on some of the best on his own even with handicaps, as i trained all of my pokemon against their weaknesses purposely to handle the moves that effected them the most, especially support moves. Let me tell you. Hands down best strat started before i even built the team i had. It started literally with how much time and effort i put into their leveling. They say that doing what i did doesnt make a difference algorythmically based on stats as thats not hiw the games worked even back then. Well i can say that it definitelly worked and payed off for me bcuz my pokemon at level 70 were taking out level 100 pokemon with ease. Some were rare candys specials, others were closely built as my team was. But i put a lot of thought into how i was going to train them. I wanted my team to be tanky against their weaknesses. Enough so that i would survive and keep them alive as long as i needed them to be. Wether the game was fast or slow, either way my opponent usually left embarrased and demoralised that no matter what they did they were at the mercy of my game. As it would often start with a false sense of security based attitude of "I got this, you suck, look at your lineup," for them it was like going to a candy covered house only to be locked up inside and see the horror of what lied beneath the candy covered shingles.
Did you just assume Butterfrees gender?
If Thief Butterfree becomes a thing in ADV OU that would just be the best.
It's fun to see less used underrated Pokémon used in this way, people often underestimate the power you can get out of a purely tech oriented setup. Not that Darkrai was by any means uncommon, but in gen 5 or 6 ubers (can't remember which) I used to run one with dark void, thunder wave, will-o-wisp, and trick with a choice scarf and a bulky EV spread, it was a setup that nobody ever saw coming that would routinely cripple teams to a point that made battles laughably easy to win even at 2k+ rating.
Holy shit hearing Viper in the outro was an absolute sucker punch. If youtube didn’t have a sub limit I would be subbed so fast
Beginning: Let's see if it has any uses
Ending: Best Pokemon of all time
Wild ride.
It's so funny reading Smogon's ADV article on Butterfree, which says that using it is "suicide".
You're not going to find intelligible analysis in an article written by "competitive" gamers.
Wow, going from EarthBound music (ironically today is the 15th anniversary of when I first plunged into it
Love it. Butterfree is my favorite pokemon =)
your narration is so soothing
I recently restarted my Leaf Green with knowledge of natures and abilities. With accurate Sleep/Poison Powder, Supersonic and Stun Spore, I couldn't believe how good Butterfree was (Dream Eater, Silver Wind, Sleep Power, Poison Powder, Timid Nature)
Doing more esoteric and difficult Pokemon challenge runs has seriously taught me the major strengths of the early route bug type. Not just Butterfree, but its counterparts are all also viable in their own ways. Dustox, for example, has very solid defensive utility given the fact that it learns both Moonlight and Protect through level up, along with having multiple 4x resistances and some decent offensive coverage.
The forbidden final member of Superman teams
Originality and innovation, I love it
Who would've thought that giving sleep moves to mons in combination with high accuracy can improve their viability.
Very original ~sarcasm
This is top tier content. This is insane.
Butterfree is getting the accolades it deserves now!
I appreciate the RvB references on his team
“Bufferfree rain dance to enable thunder Electrode”? hahaha
Incredible Butterfree gameplay. This is insane.
I love that he nicknamed them from RVB.
butterfree turned into a great utility slot, love that for him. i still release a butterfree and cry a little during each playthrough if I see a caterpie or metapod along the way.
The best thing is that Gen 3 introduced another Butterfly that is just worse in every single way, Beautifly.
As cruel as it's useless, and its cruelty know no bounds.
Now, Butterfree is no Vivilion, but it's always a pretty cool Pokemon
I’ve once used Butterfree back on the online tournaments in ORAS era. The tournament of Kanto only mons.
Butterfree is one of my all time favorites and I really managed to piss a couple opponents due to the stats
So what I'm getting from this is Butterfree is to Gen III what Snorlax is to Gen II and should be an insta-lock on every team?
I wonder if this is nuzlocke strategy escaping into competitive. It's been powering my Fire Red nuzlocke- grind a few Zubats in Mt. Moon with Confusion, and the resultant speed EV's and Compound Eyes make it an absurd sleep-setting lead.
The thief on CS was brilliant.
I adore butterfree, it has saved my skin more times than I can count. My favorite set to use for it is sleep powder, dream eater, quiver dance and bug buzz.
The Maple music was a lovely surprise 🥰
Bug types are my life💚
Butterfree seemed pretty okay for playing through the game, at least for a while, but you usually get exposed by high power pokemon. Cool to learn about it’s real competitive merit!
The butter is finally free
I use Butterfree in LeafGreen/FireRed and its ROM Hacks. I searched for Butterfree being underrated and found this video, which gives me so much joy 😁
Compound Eyes + Sleep Powder is so fun. And yeah you can pretty easily win Pokémon games with anything, but it’s still more fun than using a Psychic Pokémon and using the Psychic attack, which was ridiculously OP in gen 1
true. theres some very difficult rom hacks for pokemon too tho
ayy the maplestory music in the background. nice
I appreciate the subtle but nostalgic maplestory bgm
Without knowing anything about competitive Pokemon, and remembering my own Butterfree running days when I was a kid, I absolutely believe that Butterfree makes an excellent utility mon, even if they aren't the most powerful.
this is epic. butterfree gaming
"Not completely terrible" what a compliment.
Either I was ahead of the game or people really just don't look at the options but I can't believe it took this long for this combo to finally gain some recognition. I mean I've been doing this since the game came out 😅
Generation V ramped things up even more by giving the butterflies 91% accuracy Hurricane, no rain required. Bug Buzz is just the icing on the cake.
As someone who’s routinely brought Pokémon like Butterfree through the Elite Four since Gen I, I love wrecking opponents with it.
MapleStory music spotted
Just playing casual I always loved Butterfree for how easy it makes catching wild mons.
In gen9 I played basically the entire game with just my vivillon.
Iron fellow being UUBL with those stats is a crime in itself he must be brought to justice
That was the most accurate part, have you see what UU looks like nowadays? lmao.
That butterfree was a trooper
I really wish something similar could happen to Beedrill. He does have just a couple interesting moves that he could use after all. My boi deserves appreciation. For as hard as it can be.
True, I am also a beedrill enjoyer. Too bad in gen 3 and before he was complete garbage :/ Idk how you'd use him effectively, what tools do you suggest he use?
The best I can think of would be being a not very good substitute salac berry with endeavor user. Gen 3 doesn't have focus sash tho and beedrill doesn't learn endure, which would help. Get low with sub and salac then endeavor and twineedle for the kill to get boosts? Thats all ai got 🫠
@@YoghTato Yes, something like that! It'd be really hard indeed, but if someone actually managed to pull it off, we'd be blessed.
@@tomatogenesis tbh if I saw that in a adv game I would lose my shit that would be amazing lol
Way to go Butterfree though compound eyes is a really great ability
It Would also only get better as time goes on, as It would eventually get Quiver Dance and Hurricane. I remember Using a Vivillon back in gen 6 using a similar set Running Sleep powder, Quiver Dance, Hurricane, and either Stun Spore or Bug Buzz. Not Every one would switch when sleep powder was used, but would when quiver dance was used on the following turn. It usually meant something took some decent chip damage in following switch.
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Maple story music always makes me happy
I still remember when I first was playing pokemon, I used butterfree all the time, bc psychic type moves were extremely overpowered and it learned confusion. My little butterfree was oneshotting all over the place.
I've been saying for years that butterfree is valid, even with its low stats. Finally its getting that recognition.
This is so cool!!!
Ludwig won Wolfeys smash vgc crossover tournament in 2020 with a butterfree
“The. Single. Most Powerful. Pokémon of all time. This is INDISPUTABLE!”, some are saying this could be insane, crazy even! 👽