DON'T GET TRIPPED UP BY THESE CAR SALES TECHNIQUES! REACTION: ANDY ELLIOTT The Homework Guy
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2021
- CAR BUYERS ARE THE UNDERDOG AT A DEALERSHIP BECAUSE A CAR SALESMAN TRAINS TO BE "BATTLE READY." THAT'S WHY IT FEELS LIKE A FIGHT! UNDERSTAND THE SALES TECHNIQUES, AND WIN A GREAT CAR DEAL!
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I watched it at a dealer with their Internet!
That's great! Play it nice and loud. I'm sure they will love it! Lol...
I'm so doing this as well.... I'm even going to watch this in the finance office 😆
@@purepower333 🤣
If you are a young person or someone who is easily intimidated, take someone else with you car shopping who is not easy to intimidate.
Took my dad with me when I purchased my first new car.
He took control from start to finish.
He wasn’t exactly very nice to the salesman or the manager.
These people are not your friends he told me.
@@jondoes7836 your dad sounds like a smart man. A dealerships staff will be very polite to you and treat you like you are their friend to give you that warm and fuzzy feeling to earn your trust so that they can make as much money off of you as possible. Oftentimes after the sale, they are not as eager to help you.
My father, got me a good deal on my car. Brought advertisements from 3 other dealerships for the same car, dealership honored it. Also, he wasn’t that nice to the salesman, also he’s a lawyer, lol.
Good call!
Sounds like a timeshare on loop 😂
That salesman is EXACTLY why I get all my car deals done by phone / email.
I would not spend 10 min. with that dude!
Do you test-drive the vehicle before buying it?
I remember when I was around 10 years old my parents were in the market for a station wagon, the salesman showed up at our house the next day after test driving one the previous day. I dont think that would fly today.
Does it work this way? I'm dealing with dealership this momth
Me also, a sale has also to with liking the guy. If I see such a " smart guy " I dont buy. I do like more " humble" persons where I get the feeling he is honnest. With the " smart" fast guy I get the feeling he try tofuck me. In the netherlands we say buying is somthing " I buy also because I like the guy" we call that " gunnen" , dont know the word in English.
Thank you so much for not having annoying background music. I want to listen to your content. If I wanted to listen to music I'd listen to a music channel. Many times I've stopped listening to a channel because it was impossible to concentrate on their content because of background music blaring at me.
THIS IS SO SCARY BECAUSE EVERYTHING COVERED HERE HAPPENED TO ME AT EVERY DEALERSHIP! I really appreciate these videos and im sharing them with everyone at work and family members.
Whenever I'm in the process of buying or leasing a vehicle, I have one non-negotiable rule: PLEASE DO NOT WASTE MY TIME! I make this abundantly clear at the very beginning of the process, whether it's over the phone or at the dealership. By this time, I've already done all of the research on the vehicle(s), have test driven them, and I know what I'm willing to pay for them. If I detect even the slightest hint of my time being wasted on any sort of bullshit, I'm out the door, never to return. If everyone did this, the industry as a whole would get the message loud and clear.
Just like what Tesla did, we don’t need bs dealership to markup the price which were already well overpriced. And buy straight from manufacturers. If Tesla is selling for $39990. It’s same price from Niagara fall to key west
@@LinLi-hi1zj The best buying/leasing experience I've ever had was in the late 1990s and early 2000s when I leased a 1999 and then a 2002 Saturn SL2, which was the last year of that design. Prior to Saturn coming completely under the thumb of GM, they were well renowned for no haggle pricing and how transparent they were with the cost of the vehicle and its options. Other than dealer added accessories, if one wanted any, the price was the price. It's no accident that Saturn regularly ranked at or near the top in overall customer satisfaction and had a fiercely loyal following. Again, to this day, I've never been able to duplicate the fully positive experiences I enjoyed with Saturn. Sounds like Tesla may be on to something here.
Can you do the same video but Basically showing how to respond as soon as he says what he says and making it look like an actual conversation. Going back and forth 🤔. And cutting them off and you guys taking control.
SHUTTHEHELLUPANDLETMETALK! usually wrecks their entire game . Try it. They are NOT your friend.
Just bought my first car thanks to your channel! I was surprised to find a salesman who actually didn’t get on my nerves and I’m really happy with the deal. They didn’t try to add ANY fees, the doc fee was a little high but I decided to just give it to him for how easy the deal went. The finance guy said he wanted to go home to watch golf, so he didn’t try very hard to add the extras.
So much excellent advice on this channel. If you're gonna buy, watch all this channel's videos.
The dealer loves to hold your id or keys to the trade in vehicle, prevent that and when you say no, GO...
I remember years ago we were at a dealership and they took our drivers licenses and were giving us the runaround and we got pissed and walked out… we forgot to ask for our licenses back. The next day I went back and made quite the scene calling them dishonest shisters and second rate crooks
I’ve done that before as a consumer. What I discovered is no sales person knows their product anymore. They, themselves have to read a brochure or study the window sticker to see what comes on the vehicle. They no longer know what model has what options, etc. they are merely guides.
Great tips as always Kevin & Liz! Keep up the great work!
As always you guys are awesome and I enjoy watching your videos. You are absolutely right! We the customers must take control and keep control of our car buying purchases..
Dealers in my area (Las Vegas) don't do intimidation, at least not in my personal experience recently. Their approach is very straightforward: 1. Here's the vehicle price (MSRP) 2. There are dealer add-ons which cost X. 3. Taxes and doc fees and license fees are Y. 4. 1 + 2 + 3 is the total selling price. 5. Take it or leave it...they don't care either way
Great videos. Purchased a car a couple of weeks ago and you guys saved me hundreds. Shot down the silly fees and I could see the finance manager getting disappointed as the fees flew away.
Thank you for not adding any annoying music to your videos.
Thanks for your help. I agree best way to find a salesperson who cares is to call about an issue. Usually you won’t even get a call back. When the car clears the stealerships driveway they have already forgotten your name!
Absolutely. You can test them, call the sales line but act like you have a parts le service question. If they give you the time of day to help out, that doesn't necessarily mean you can 100% trust them but at least they're a little better than the jerk who doesn't want to talk to you unless you're handing them money.
Thank you for sharing your talents!
I love this show, great information
This is no joke there was a car salesmen ask me why are you here today I told him for the cookout he didn't know what to say by the way I walked out
Was there a cookout that day? I'm not sure how to read that.
One of the foundation stones of sales psychology is overcoming objections. This is what inevitably happens. The sales person expects you to have objections. The salesperson puts lots of energy into overcoming objections. One of the first things sales people are taught is that [ NO ] is not a barrier like a brick wall. It is more like a plastic orange traffic cone that you merely have to walk around.
You're correct. NO isn't a brick wall for all people. In this case, especially as it applies to cars, because I know the process to well, I continue until my goal is accomplished. At that point, I say NO... and I'm gone. It's the non-negotiable end. There are plenty of others I know who follow suit.
Good video with great info. One thing to remember is you don't need to buy a vehicle from them, but they need you to buy a vehicle from them.
Kevin Hunter Homework Guy
Great Educational videos! Thanks
For keeping cars buyers well informed!👍👍👍👍👍
Hey Andy, they make shirts in size medium now.
Many of these car salesmen are trained by Grant cardone.. a complete sleeze bag... trains with cult like mindset.. sell until they buy or die..
Right now it’s a sellers market. If you don’t pay up, the next buyer will. People are paying too much. It’s best to just wait until next year, if possible.
Thanks for making these videos for us. They are very helpful!
I made a 5% lower counteroffer on the first presented deal. The salesman said he wouldn't deal. He literally said that. We walked out. Lots more 'dealers' out there, who actually deal. Fortunately, a new car is a 'nice to have' for us, not a necessity. Thanks for your great advice, Kevin and Liz.
I've ALWAYS made car buying decisions with emotions and am so thankful for your videos. I think the next purchase will be much more rational. 👍🏻💗💥
When I hear a salesman like Andy Elliott babble is rapid fire questioning nonsense or ignore my “NO” I’m walking.
The question I like to ask salespeople in the end when I'm not ready to buy is 'did you marry the 1st person you dates?'. In the unlikely event they say "Yes", I just say I'm not that in love with that car!!
You will definitely go to heaven some day. You have saved so many of us from these creeps.
🙏🏻 thank you so much!!
Fantastic insight! Thank you!
I really like THG's new set up with Elizabeth at his side. It really works well !
Hi Kevin and team, you guys are great... Why don't you make an ultimate play role video showing the amazing Elizabeth walking through a dealer from the second she walks in to the dealership all the way to shopping, drive test, price negotiation, up to the second she leaves the dealer with a deal. That video would be gold generator for us and you. Keep it up folks!
I think the word Andy was looking for is DOMINANT
Great job guys! You two rock!
Thank you for the advice
Good selling isn't "intimidation", etc. -- it is the transference of certainty.
Thanks!
Another great video, 👍 thanks ❤
I’m immersing myself in your videos and am immensely grateful for them. Am actually looking forward to buying a 2024 Subaru Forester when they come out, instead of dreading the process. Thank you!
Thanks
Great tips
Very helpful 👍
In the past I walk in, ignore them as much as possible. They ask a dumb question like, what brought you in I give a saracastic answer. My car, or if you can't figure that out why would I need to talk to you?
I really don't have a problem with the first 80% of his video. Having someone listen and ensure that they are finding you a car the suits your needs. A salesman has his hustle too. I appreciate your video so we can prepare our hustle.
Honestly if car salesmen worked more like a realtor it would feel less pushy. They can sell while asking if it’s the best fit. Not BUY BUY BUY
Have your own plan and always stick to it do not deviate from it in the dealership. If the car salesman has made you unsure walk out and do more research remember it's not the car salesman that's going to have to live with the decision you make you will have to live with it.
If the sale guy ask you why you are there, just tell them you're there to look at a car in person, so you can buy it online elsewhere without pushy sales person trying to sell you things you dont want or need.
I mean, you can do that, but if you actually want to test drive something while you're there why would they help you? An experienced salesperson will move to another customer and an inexperienced salesperson will believe you and be so sure that you don't want to be bothered that they'll try to talk you out of trying to move forward to drive something.
Questions for the Homework Guys: 1) What happens to the salesman when you walk out at your ONLY "no" response? 2) Are there a few NEVER's for these salesmen? What are they and how will the Sales manager know this? Big "Never's for salesmen" must cost Dealers a lot of money? How can a Dealer stay in business if their sale people iritate so many potentiual buyers? This is why I am learning from your THG channel.
It’s really easy in principle. As a dealer, don’t establish a toxic sales culture hell bent on screwing over the customer to cheat them out of as much money as possible through ignorance. Like I said, easy in principle - seems to be impossible in practice though.
I am convinced this guy is on some kind of stimulant.
Exactly what I was thinking, that dude is all coked up.
Of course he is. Car salesmen are notorious for being functioning alcoholics or addicted to drugs. Dealer are one of the few places those types can get a job.
C-c-c-cocaine
I bought a 1999 Olds Cutlass last year they made that style. We walked in my wife, I our 4 year old son ( now a college business grad) we didn't have a chance. I knew how badly we were screwed the following day, when I went to pickup a couple of documents at the dealer, and everyone on the sales floor was looking out of their office to see what I looked like. Just out of spite I kept the car fourteen years, and 163 thousand miles, it turned out to be a highly reliable car. I only got rid of it because I wanted a vehicle with more airbag protection, the Olds only had two.😁
When Elvis left the building...he left the building...we will too!
thx kev 👍
Mr. Pedantic here. The word is "dominant," not 'dominate' motive.
I came to post the same thing. I think he wrote "dominate" as a Freudian slip to be honest.
Thank you
I watch Andy videos to be able to spot his students when I go to buy a car. If I identify one, I give him one chance to either completely change his approach or go get someone else. If they don’t, I leave.
That's exactly what i just did too. As i got up to walk out.
"I watched Andy Elliot videos too. It backfired on ya."
You realize all salesmen are going to be following some form of training or system, right? Andy is just one you happen to be familiar with, and he's not even "bad."
@@jasonjohnson-rustvold5099 you're not the kind of business a sales person generally wants. Big headache and bad attitude for low ROI. Better to cut you loose and deal with someone who isn't fantasizing they're some badass and that a sale is combat lol
Because of this bad time of buying a car and the fact that I have 3 cars and have on interest in buying new one for at least a year because of the chip thing and availablity, I enjoy your videos and actually go into dealerships to practice my ability to walk away! Keep up the good work.
excellent information as always - General question, when you go through the process, how do you handle items dealer put on - you do not want - but expect you to pay for?
Don't pay for them, easy! Walk Away!
That guy is so douchy...
He's training thousands of sales staff from around the country. That's the bad news. The good news is that consumers are on to this stuff, so dealers will eventually stop sending people there to get trained. We provide the other side of the coin, and pull the rug out from under them. You're welcome!
You should read the replies on his videos! Makes you want to cry for humanity sometimes.
I just drove three hours to see a car at a dealership after making sure the car was there. Get there and one says the car is at Pep Boys getting an alignment and someone else says it’s on loan. Said they’d go get it if I’d sign a contract. I actually went with it for a bit until the salesman got mad at me for calling my wife to talk about the price. He actually said “You’re the one buying the car aren’t you?” He also made a calculation mistake that his boss caught that added $500 back to the vehicle. Not a mistake, I’m sure it was on purpose. I can’t imagine a worse time at a car lot.
My last truck purchase in 2017 was 45 days from first look to signing. Had the exact truck picked out about 15 days into the dealing.
And I got 38,500 back on my 4 year old trade in that I paid 40,900 for.
@Bones McGillicuddy everyone around me calls me a buthead. So thanks for the upgrade.
Your story is not credible, at all.
@@NeverTalkToCops1
Diesel trucks hold their value when taken care of.
I bought at a nice discount in ‘13 when the ‘14’s were filling the lots. Then traded up to a ‘17 when the ‘18’s were showing up.
Some one gets up in my face like this guy I walk !
I can't help but feel that Mr. Elliott's testosterone-fueled manner is, at heart, a form of bullying.
I agree. He also seems like the type of guy who would threaten to suspend your Social Insurance Number and demand you pay for the car with Google Play cards.
Agreed; I would immediately tell him to turn it down a notch
I believe this is more of a take control salesman to lead you to complete the sale. It makes sense to know the models you can afford and only test drive those.
"All those other things you sell them on they can envision on their new vehicle", "that can make them want to pay more money increasing the value". What a crock of BS!!! That car along with "all those other things" (options) is going to drop by 20% -30% or more as soon as the wheels move off the dealers property.
That dudes control would last less than 5 seconds with me as soon as he opened his mouth.
Never change vehicles for better fuel economy. You spend many $ thousands extra for this and that $ can buy a lot of gas for your current vehicle. Besides smaller lighter cars do not fare as well as larger heavier vehicles, simple laws of physics
I need to see someone walk in and buy a car all the way through using these techniques that would be awesome watching
It would be very difficult to go through the whole process start to finish without taking forever unless the salespeople did everything "right." But if they did there would be no tricks to beat them to show people because they wouldn't be doing the things to warn people about, and then that wouldn't be a very engaging video.
That's why hidden camera stuff is usually focused on one part of the process and specifically the bad stuff, to use as a teaching moment.
@@Oxios your reply "sounded" good but it would be no different than spending 2 hours editing a 15 min video. In fact it would be less work bc you would upload the entire process in probably two parts
1 walking in and negotiating etc
2 finance
WOW very interesting 1st class very kool great info. AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot keep up the great work
hello friends In my opinion Andy Elliot's music is easy to ignore even though it's supposed to grab your attention and get you excited
Andy Elliot is just one reason why, people hate going to a car dealership. Steve Richards is the other reason.
Hello, Eric. It is unfortunate, but that's why at The Homework Guy we like to show car buyers what car trainers are teaching. It's only fair if you know the same playbook as the salesmen and dealer owners.
In the current market conditions, the buyers have very little leverage. The demand far out weighs the supply, if you don’t buy, many dealers can find 10 buyers behind you. Now when the supply levels out, different story
Another great video from THG. Always some good S.H.I.T.!!
This guy could never sell a car to me. He is just enjoying
I always fall for all the tricks then the salesman gets mad cause I have no money
I assured the salesman that either his brains or my offer will be on this contract.
@Bones McGillicuddy Thank you, I'm still hanging around.
What do you do when the dealer asks for your license to test drive cars? The last time I went to look, they copied my license, then drew a line on it an had me sign it.
You guys would be a great team with Chevy dude
On some issues, perhaps. Chevy Dude can't discuss some of the subjects we do because he has alliances with his Dealership. That means he won't tell you that a document fee is an entirely unnecessary fee. He won't tell you that Chevy makes most of the cars that people shouldn't buy... So, as I said, it would have to be selective stuff. That's why his videos are selective. That said, I still think the business in general would be better off if others did the same, so I have no complaints about his videos.
Truth! And yes I don't like GM vehicles.
I always tell the finance guy no, but he insisted on trying to sell me. The ONLY product I ever bought was a tire plan because it was an unlimited mile tire plan for 5 years. Just bring in the tire and we replace it no questions asked… they put it in writing too. tire plan cost was $500 but tires cost $300 per tire. Thing is I am a courier and drive 75k miles per year…. I reverse screwed the dealer for sure. On my fourth set of complete tires.
So I said no 2x so far he has not come back.although I thought for sure he would, I wasnt asking for much...maybe I will hear from them again
I'd be back home by now.
Whomever asks the questions controls the deal. This is why salespeople ask lots of questions.
When they ask me questions, I take a long time to answer. Sometimes I forget to answer and ask them questions instead.
The legit fact-finding questions aren't so bad. If a customer walks up and asks me about a truck because they're going to do towing, but they don't give more information, it makes sense to ask how much they expect to pull or what Terrain they intend to travel. No need to pull up a more expensive truck than the basic that will fit their needs.
I have just drove through a car lot. Within minutes salesman walking up. What can I do for you today?
I say nothing right now, just looking at used trucks and prices. They go on about helping me look, I say no help needed I found them. If I see something for a price and within the miles on odometer I am ok with. I will come get you when I want the keys to test drive it. They hate it because they lost the control at that point.
Go to the dealership on a Sunday when they're closed. Then you can look at the cars at your leisure without a pushy salesman harassing you. That's what I did the last time I bought a car. By the time I met with the salesman, I already had the vehicle picked out.
Take control early. Let the salesman know you are doing research and will be testing two other vehicles and you won’t make a decision until you do. That is stronger than “having to think about it” or “I need to discuss with my spouse”. Never buy on the first visit.
I agree with never buy on 1st visit. I always test drive all the vehicles I want to look at first and I always tell the salesperson that I have no intention of making a purchase today.
Just say I ask the question
Just walked out of this dealship..after ,going thru all the paperwork. Etc..i12lm
To 2:46..they had issues with a loan, because I am not working retired. Then I offer cash 17, 000 they said no because they are negative as it is 18,000 was the price..was 2015 honda civic ex sedan 4d.. 45 422 miles..has small chop on window front and a small scratch....black color..my trade was viable because engine light came on. So offer 300.00..cannot do..so I left after all that ..was it a fair hood cash offer
Ok i want to get the 2023 kia forte gt. With the gt2 package. How do i go in there acting like im just kicking tires and still get the car i want at a good price with making it like i want the car so bad and get taking vantage of? Please help.
Im not sure the right way to go about it in the beginning
Great videos however dealers have 100% leverage right now with people lining up to pay thousands OVER msrp as fast as they can.
The music is to mask the sound of lies. It’s necessary.
If he seriously had that tone of voice and said, “Welcome to my home,” I’d be like, “Do you have some crackers next to the coffee to go with all this cheese?”
My problem, all the dealers have gone to MSRP + $5,000.00 worth of fictional add-ons, and some have even used the line "Market Adjustment" to further increase their prices, and worse.
I can easily wipe out the fabric protection for $700 and the pin stripe for $200 and the nitro tire fill for $185, and kill the market adjustment too. They will barely budge on the MSRP. I DO NOT want to pay MSRP. Any ideas on that?
Stop being cheap?
@@heavyW8champ Now I know. Refusing to let someone screw you out of $5,000.00 more than a product costs, means you are cheap. That's how you feel, but I think you are a moron.
Thank you
Andy!!!! Give ur little brother his shirt back
I went to a Dodge dealership and I seen 3 Dodge Chargers on the website, the website says 2021 and I spoke to em over the phone and they told me the ones they have, then when I went in to look at em they said 2020, and the salesman man was telling me they are 2021 and I clearly see 2020 on the dashboard
RUN!
@@NeverTalkToCops1 ikr, he thinks I’m stupid
Do not mind a fair profit...abhor lining a gilded purse...I despise lies
So, when my keys and auto are being held hostage when I'm already in F&I, do I say, "we can start when I have my own keys in hand."?
Yes, exactly. Don't ever be in a position where you're stuck.
Don't trade in your car. Then they have no reason to take your keys. You get more cash selling it yourself.
@@kukkimonsuta5342 With the cars of today, you do not even need the key fob in the car once it is started.
@@kukkimonsuta5342 Remember to factor in sales tax savings in most states if buying a new car
@@ToyotaTom04 You're an idiot. The difference between private party sale and trade in value will almost always exceed any tax "savings."
This channel had helped out immensely. We watched your last video on Andy. So i started watching Andy's channel to learn his "killing it". Now i knew what to look for as tactics.
We found a salesman who just answered our questions (but still asked for the sale) and wasn't pushy. We walked out of 3 stealerships because we knew what to look for.
We just bought 2 trucks at great deals from him. Win/ win.
Don't mind asking for the sale , just don't ignore questions.
Thank you THG team!
Does Andy Elliott watch THG videos?
Bad music doesnt matter, you have his audio so low the music is barely heard, unless I turn up the volume. But then your comments are so loud it blows the speakers out
Same for me
Classic Karen and bob
Pretty sure there's 4 steps. Step 1 is cocaine.
It's a shame when we have to purchase a vehicle for 40 or 50 grand we have to put up with all this BS!
If I encountered an Andy Elliott at a dealership just that overall campy douchy style I would be in the sales manager's office in a heartbeat saying please keep that dude away from me I'll deal with you direct... That dude is overcompensating so heavily #ridiculous
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Saying NO and walking out = it's okay for you to waste his time tho??