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Ram Power Wagon vs Ford Raptor Rumble: Which Is REALLY the King of Off-Road Trucks?
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( www.tfltruck.com ) 2021 Ram Power Wagon or Ford Raptor? Is one of these your dream truck? They cost about the same, but which one is truly the KING of off-road truck?
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#RamPowerWagon #FordRaptor
Power Wagon don’t care!
Likewise ... WE don't care about that FCA gRAMbage 👍👍👍
@truongtu0191 Furd lovers
@@woxie4990 ford isn't any better. go get educated
Yessirski
Which is the king of off-road trucks? Let's sit in this parking lot and find out!
My thoughts exactly.
Lmao Robert
LOL!
They used to do a lot better with off road content and their vehicle battles but now they just do a rundown of each in a parking lot like you said. I know it’s prolly cause it’s winter but still they could find something out in Colorado where it’s off road trail heaven. Going over the features of the raptor for the 100000 time is getting so old.
@@andyham6094 honestly I think it has alot to do with andre, idk if you remember his "custom ford super tremor" it was the same thing a million videos on the "build" and bench racing but very few videos of it actually doing anything
Why isn’t this a comparison between a Tremor and a Power Wagon?
Because they bought a Raptor.
The power wagon is more comparable to a raptor. Tremor is like a FX4 package
They've done tremor vs power wagon before. They did this just cause they bought the raptor recently
They did a poor excuse for a test between the Tremor, PW, and a GMC by driving through a mud puddle, crock crawl slow speed drag race, drove onto a rock, then a MPG test...nothing a Subaru couldn't have done. They hyped the Tremor like it was the 2nd coming and then once it arrived never tested it in any meaningful way against anything I have seen.
I really appreciate and like what you guys do, and the depth at which you tackle each subject. However, I’m noticing a pattern in your recent videos where you set two trucks side by side, talk about all the specs, add bits of info here and there, then give them a couple of revs. I really miss the videos where you used to take them off road together. Not only does that give the viewer a sense of how trucks behave in the real world, but some great entertainment to boot. It seems as though you guys are providing us with the cheapest way can give us content. I was expecting you guys to pit these two off road which would have made for a great video. Sorry if I’m being harsh, but this is a great channel and hope you guys keep it that way.
I agree to an extent, but they don't own the Dodge.
Part of the problem is they have a channel for everything now, seriously spread thin and carried away. Jack of all trades, master of none.
@@traitoR142 agreed, I'm waiting for TFL dog. I like dogs, but I'd rather them keep that out.
@@Wezi427 Haha
Part of the problem is due to covid. They can do the old style for certain videos but not all right now. Also as one person commented they own the raptor, they don’t own the power wagon so that probably has something to do with it a bit. As another commenter said, they’ve got so many channels that, along with the other issues, is spreading them a little thin. But also, it’s winter in Colorado right now and many of the trails they tend to use for off-road videos are closed or too treacherous to attempt in borrowed vehicles so they can’t really do a good off-road video right now.
So are they going to actually compare them off road?
No one wants to see these 2 sitting in a parking lot. Put them into action!
Whatever they paid you to put on that topper it wasn't enough.
It absolutely kills the beautiful design of the raptor.
Makes that Raptor look lame
I have an idea for a new TFL channel.
It could be called TFL Parking Lot Talk.
This video would be perfect for that channel.
Power Wagon. That factory winch and lower price vs Raptor is a big plus for me.
Fca quality and hilarious mpg are the only things holding me back
@@ImOldGregg mpg, sure. That 'reliability' thing is bs, princess.
@@Welcometofacsistube no its not, fiat is junk
Hal 1000 don’t think so, was getting ready to go buy one and surfed powerwagon forums.... oh man
@@ImOldGregg raptor forums are just as bad. 🤷♂️
when you're ready to put your owned raptor against my owner power wagon... you have my email! LET'S DO THIS!!
yours must not be stock because the power wagon engine is weak . Also he mentioned you could put 35 on the ram and it will look better but he forgot to mention the fuel mill. will fall to around 10 mpg. and it will be gutless
@@deronpickelsimer7455 I am completely stock running 35s and seeing regularly 12.5 to 15 mi per gallon city/highway which is not bad for a truck that weighs 8,500 lb. I don't know why you think this engine is gutless it'll burn the rubber when turning into traffic, and has power for days and days of trailer pulling. You must not be speaking from experience but rather other people's faulted opinions.
we have 2 and we have and older ex. cab raptor with a 6.2 and a f250 with a 6.2. Our fords are gutless and when their loaded evenly you cant tell the differance
@@JustinKingOffroad
Must you run premium gas in your Power Wagon? I am confused by what was stated in the piece.
@@larrybe2900 I did some pretty extensive fuel economy testing in my truck for the first 6 months I owned it and found out that premium fuel did not offset the price in gains of economy. At least in my situation running 87 octane cost less per mile than premium when it's $0.30 a gallon more. If you can get premium anything under $0.20 a gallon more than $87 octane that's where you save money with the small fuel economy gains.
Neither, both are too big for serious off roading.
My thoughts exactly
Raptors a baja truck, you need something wide for that
@@harveysingh8785 that’s not the off-roading we’re referring to. Like overlanding and some hard trails like black bear pass.
One is a Baja desert runner truck, the other is a forest trail trunk. Both are nice
Well I took your advice and got a Superduty Tremor. We've put almost 17K miles on it since May, offroading towing from WA - FL and back. My only issue is the winch is still not available, but if I'm honest I haven't needed it, yet.
I’ve got a 21 Power Wagon w 75th and tow and tech package I’m taking delivery on next week!!! Can’t wait to compare interiors.
Power Wagon for me. It’s more application specific for what I’d actually do and actually currently do ( Off-road, rock crawling, light towing of a Jeep), so it’s the choice for me. Although the TRX looks soooo Badassed!
Dodge really neeeds to get rid of that electronic knob transmission shifter. I bet thats a deal breaker for alot of buyers. Either put a column shifter or console shifter in it. Just get rid of that stupid knob.
I'm fine with the column and console shifters going away. This provides more space in the center console for useful things. Plus in any modern truck its an electronic connection regardless of its its a knob, button, or shifter.
Fords interior is way worse
Yeah these “makes more space” idiots need to stop with that lie
@@slipjoint637 exactly. How is a column shifter taking up floor space? LOL..
@@freeravenadventures6925 As larger screens come into trucks it can obscure the screens. It's not floor space but it's still space and I don't find a column shifter any better than using the knob.
They are two different trucks! Should've compared the tremor to the power wagon!
TFL don't care. Only care about views so they can make more $ off your views.
@@songj0056 they should just make videos for us to watch with no intention of making money so they go out of business so there are no videos for us to watch for free on RUclips.
Tremor crushes it
@@ajmedeiros77 I agree! Much more reliable and dependable!
@@ajmedeiros77 ABSOLUTELY FORD ALL DAY
I'm so sick of people comparing the Power Wagon and the Raptor.
Two completely different use cases...
I had the Raptor and my wife had the twin turbo explorer, we had 5 turbos fail in under 50,000 miles and they were mainly daily drivers. I went to the Power Wagon and have had 0 mechanical issues, i will stick with the V8 now. For us it came down to, do you want to make it from A to B a little slow or do you want to make it from A to A 1/2 fast lol.
That sold it for me I'm choosing the power wagon
@@jeffgriebel205 I love mine Sir, don’t think you would be disappointed
Wtf is with the video game advertisement??? Thought this was a truck channel
Greed? Desperation? Toss them some moolah and they'll uptalk anything, ... that's what they're doing on FCA products like Jeap and RAM daily!
I have the 16 PW now and that TRX is definitely on my mind!!! The funny thing is I’ve been a GM man all my life but now I’m liking what the Dodge Boys have to offer
Power wagon any day of the week.
These parking lot videos are getting a little old.
I just bought at 2021 75th anniversary Power Wagon and the TFL reviews helped me make the decision. The Power Wagon wasn't even on my radar at first but once i saw the comparison videos, it surely became the front runner very quickly.
Power Wagon for me. Not even close.
33's are way too small on a HD truck that's branded as an off-road vehicle.
Wow! The all new “Parking Lot Challenge “. So much talking and no doing. Bummer Andre, bummer. 🤨
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out. :)
You can take a raptor rock crawling but you can't take a power wagon to baja. Argument over
Are you sure ... How do you know .. it's not like you have a Raptor.... Oh wait .... NVM hahaha
@@IneptSoldier you got me 😂
I really don’t understand why you guys didn’t bring the tremor vs the power wagon this isn’t apples to apples
I would take Tremor for towing/payload capacity. Also tremor i think doesn't have start stop and cylinder deactivation.
The next generation Raptor will be the King. Right now I give it to the TRX.
Right now you can’t buy a Trx and if you could it’s 20k more than the Raptor you can currently buy.
@@JohnDiMartino you could buy a 5.0 f150 cheaper and have paxpower turn it into a raptor AND slap on a supercharger (the PaxPower kit is $25k) and then whatever the 5.0 f150 goes for
@@andrewsbbq atleast tune it to more power than the other trucks... maybe 450-460hp range??
here comes 15 minutes of all the features, rinsed and repeated over 500000000000000000000 videos and 2 minutes of actual driving and off roading.. TFL is getting old
You bring up the factory installed winch for the Power Wagon but you could have also mentioned that the Raptor doesn't have an option for mounting a winch at all. There is an intercooler where the winch would go. To put a winch on a Raptor you need to get an aftermarket intercooler and Swarfworks mount. Also, you winch that has a remotely operated clutch. That limits you to the Warn ZEON Platinum. You're looking at ~$4000 to put a winch on the front of a Raptor.
Power wagon don't care.
Little off on price..I paid 53k for my 2020 power wagon. I previously had 2 ecoboost f150s 17,19 year models and both were lemons. The ecoboost was fun to drive but the trucks were completely unreliable. Iv put 15 k hard miles off-roading and towing so far on the power wagon without a single issue. I want to keep it forever.
So are you actually going to test or just sit In them an talk? Bring back the Canadian. NOW THAT GUY KNEW HOW TO OFFRAOD
He has his own channel now called Truck king, him and his dad do a really good job
Go watch his video today....Tacoma TRD OFF ROAD vs. JEEP MOJAVE GLADIATOR in ice....snow and mud. His channel is TRUCK KING...does a lot with his dad.
@@jake.h3274 he was on that channel before he came to TFL
@@UvidCo didn't know that, I am glad he's on his own again then!
@@jake.h3274 check him out on Truck King. They are pretty good. 👍
How appropriate, Goodyear has snowflakes, and that's not just CEO and SJW hr department.
Italian Fiat Rams are alright 👌 I prefer the American Raptor! 🤔
Cool cause I prefer the American Ram because there's no such thing as a fiat ram but we wouldn't want facts to get in the way of your stupidity now would we
@@Welcometofacsistube Fiat owns Ram though? 🐏 Wouldn't that make it Italian, since they took over years ago the Ram was Drastically changed! The Exterior had a face lift, the inside interior was like an Italian sports car. Italians make good looking vehicles i.e The Lamborghini etc... Yeah if I was Fiat I wouldn't say they're Italian for marketing reasons.... 😅
@@God-Emperor-Of-Mankind well its a free country to be wrong. Hopefully you'll get smarter
@@Welcometofacsistube Sir I can not think for you, but I implore you to research for yourself. The Italian Brand Fiat owns Ram, that's a Fact. They separated the Name Dodge from Ram to make it more marketable. Say what you want but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Have a good day sir! 🙏
@@God-Emperor-Of-Mankind no!!! Really!!!??? Fiat owned 51% of Chrysler???? Wow!! News to me!!!
Idiot. Get smarter
ditch that cheap looking topper
1000% POWER WAGON ALL day -
It’s currently 3am and yep, I’m watching TFL
4am here but same!
2:11 AM... lol
Most 35s fit without issue on the Power Wagon.
true, but the minute you throw 35's on that beast, the mpg comparability is done, the wagon wont be getting 14 mpg anymore...
@@hahaadventures4838 how in the hell are you getting 14mpg? I also have a 19 power wagon on 37 mickey thompson tires and I average about 10 to 11mpg!
I have a 2020 PW and get 14-17 on stock tires. Planning to go to 35”s but overall very pleased with mileage. Coming from 2019 Mercedes G550 where I was getting 11-13 mpg. By comparison it’s an economy car right?
@@hahaadventures4838 ok makes sense i also bypass the mds and dont use it so haha im sure that has something to do with my lower mpg...its ok i usually just go my smiles per gallon haha!
well considering i own a Power Wagon...id have the Power Wagon...i do really like the 75th Anniversary PW...
I just bought a PW last month, so I guess I’m biased too. But PW all the way. I too thought the 75th anniversary edition was the way to go but it loses the bench seat and that was a deal killer for me. Picked up the first one I could find in olive green.
Hey I get it....TFL needs content. But this comparison is lame. What's next? F250 vs Tacoma? 😏
C'mon guys don't pretend you haven't seen the comments on that hideous bed tent on the Raptor..
Wooden the F250 trimmer been a better comparison for truck to truck?
The power wagon for me it would be even more tempting if the lockers worked in high
Tbf you can do 50mph in low range in the new powerwagon
Rear locker works in 2 and 4 hi on 19+'s.
Just hard wire your lockers and you're done....There are vids on RUclips that cover this. PS... Sorry to be the only non-Tyrrell/Tyler to respond (lol)...
Super Duty Tremor > Power Wagon
Trx > Raptor
Hummer EV > CyberTruck
Ford 1 Dodge 1 GM 1
Merry Christmas Andre 🎄
Thanks Andre, now let's get them both in the dirt. As far as preference, guess I'm a bit biased since I ordered a new PW last Saturday 😁. #TFLAWESOME
PW all day everyday!
If you could get your hands on one, I'd love to see a comparison between an older power wagon, like an 05 one, and a new one
I had a chance to own both , and now I’m a power wagon only person , the best of HD off road,
It’s high , powerful,and when it comes to off-roading it’s better then Rubicon.
Power Wagon is the honey badger of off-roading
How is a coil spring rear suspension for every day driving, towing and hauling?
It's awesome smooth. Lacking for towing as stock but I put cheap airbags on my 2016 and LOVE it. Tows the biggest trailers I have.
The raptor is a truck for the rice racer kiddos. The power wagon is a man's truck. Put a Cummins in the power wagon and it becomes a perfect truck.
Why? Diesels are heavier, more complex, more expensive just to make the same power? Nothing wrong with the hemi
@@Welcometofacsistube personal preference really, but I prefer to go wheelin' in a truck with low-end grunt for climbing and negotiating obstacles. Not a fan of high rpm muddin' style off-roading. And without doubt, the Cummins has the low end grunt that the hemi only dreams of.
@@tuurd - Over the past four years I've done serious off-roading in my '16 Power Wagon here in AZ, UT, CA and Mexico with a Four Wheel Camper in the bed. Off-road weignt is generally 9,500#. The 6.4 has MORE than enough power both on and off-road (had two prior Cummins before the PW). Range is the bigger concern if planning treks off-road of more than 200 miles in mixed 4Hi/Lo and 2wd. I plan at 8mpg to figure if I need to carry one or two jerry cans of fuel with me for given trips.
@Air Force Juan the kids in their stanced toyotas and hondas who wanna step up and be hoons in a truck.
@@donleamon8653 I can respect that. I'm just a diesel guy at heart so I am always more likely to opt for it if I can.
If Ford would let the raptor rev a little higher, it would sound like the ricer I have. 😄
RUclips idiots that don't know the difference between a Hi Performance V6 and a ricer 4cyl
@@jmc6000 You speak of things you don't know. My ricer does have a V6.
@@paulgalvan8386 that's sad that you have a POS V6 that can't even hold a candle to the V6 in the Raptor
I’ll take the Power Wagon please.
$67k truck vs $77k truck.
I'll keep my $26k truck thanks.
That's my thoughts on being a tacoma owner. I will throw 15k into and be more than good to go
No mall crawler for me give me the Power Wagon any day everyday!!!
Let's face it, they're both gonna be mall crawlers.
Uh ok the reason why people buy the Raptor and mall crawl is because it’s more popular and more recognizable than the Power Wagon so it should be obvious it’s the better buy............There’s a reason it’s more popular
@@austinreed347 Well where I live you see no shortage of power wagons mall crawling
@@AustinC2838 that's why we love our Power Wagons. Mine weights in at 9880 with tools and equipment in the bed, it's all stock intake, stock tune, 37's, stock gears, has 99,920 miles on it today 2-13-21, and it'll work all week hauling my flatbeds and dump trailers with bobcats and mini excavators, let my wife go mall crawl once in a while for groceries and then it'll haul the wife, kids, dogs, and the toyhauler full of water, fuel, food, supplies, quads and bikes, and haul it all way out in the backwoods to where the raptors can't go. Then I can go do "real crawling" on the rocks and timbers of rugged country mountains or Moab all morning long, then have lunch, then an afternoon of atv action, and then top it all off with a bbq dinner in the Great American Outdoors for dessert. Try that with your rapty CANADIAN REDNECK.
My modified Power Wagon has done everything I ask of it for the last 5 years without any issues. 37's since new, 4.88's, AEV suspension and bumper, front and rear winches, etc. Tows my 30' toy hauler from the coast of Vancouver all the way up to the Yukon in the middle of winter. zero issues. Don't even notice when I'm hauling my off-road truck on my flat deck.The wheeling in my area is pretty tight with trees so theres some body damage. The Traction you get when you're locked up and weigh 4200kgs is awesome. I can plow through 3' of snow when we go snow wheeling no problem. Eventually it will get a built engine for boost. My only complaint is the 66RFE trans. It's dim witted and slow to react. Pretty sure the 8-spd would bolt up??
It’s 3AM 😂
I'm guessing you're on west coast? Its 5:15 where I'm at. See how close I am lol I'm in midwest
100% Power Wagon for me .
Pretty sad when we start calling tablet sized touch screen "dated".
I tested both and bought the PW because it is more useful
I seriously just compared these two trucks last night. You can guess how surprised I was to find this video this morning. Thanks!
Yup, I'm that loser watching TFL at 03:00 on a work day lol. Love Y'ALL at TFL Merry Christmas.
Same, 4am here but merry Christmas aswell😊
These are nice trucks, but nothing gives me the desirability and confidence and overall sense of satisfaction than a GM Truck!
Due to my lifestyle I've done a lot of four wheel driving over my lifespan. I would take the Power Wagon over the Raptor any day as I have never had the need or the opportunity to drive off road at speed. It simply doesn't fit with how I've used off road trucks. The Tremor, 150 or 250, is very interesting. I would like to see a comparison of them to the Power Wagon.
Andre: " The screen makes the Raptor seem dated"
Also Andre: " The lever shift makes the Power Wagon old school cool and that's good."
Andre needs to come off the Ram D for some air.
For real though, that "power" wagon would fall apart trying to keep up with the Raptor in an actual off road race.....
Just like the craptor would fall apart trying to keep up with the PW in real off-road situations.
Both are great vehicles for when the shtf. However, I'm going with the Power Wagon. The Heavy Duty edge is what does it for me. The big Hemi and surround cameras, too! By the way, SRT is dead.
Power Wagon takes 37 inch tires with zero mods. Who cares about mileage. It'll go anywhere, just throw a couple Jerry cans of gas in the back lol
POWER WAGON without a doubt!
I wouldn't actually buy any of these, but if I had to choose one I would opt for the Power Wagon. I would take it over the Raptor or the T-Rex. A lot more useful. The others are faster, but I don't use a truck to drag race, so that doesn't matter. I would like the Dodge better if it had a column shifter instead of that chitzy knob.
Power wagon all the way. Raptor sounds like a Kirby vacuum cleaner
Drive and test the M F ing truck, not sit in them and open glove boxes.
It would be cool to see a MPG loop and towing test between the Ram 2500 6.4 vs. the 6.7
Power Wagon is my dream
do more videos of the power wagon please !!
Should be the Ford “TREMOR” Super Duty F-250 vs. the Ram 2500 “Power Wagon” Heavy Duty. Don’t compare 3/4 ton vs. 1/2 ton.
Well how else is TFL going to produce clickbsit filler content for its umpteen number of pointless and duplicitous channels?
If I got my total wish come true I'd have the power wagon with the Cummins diesel and an Allison transmission!
TFL has seriously just started phoning it in on off-road truck comparisons. Ever since the Tremor arrived...zero real off-road challenges against the Power Wagon after they hyped the Tremor based on paper stats. The closest we got was a 3-way HD OFF-ROAD FIGHT including the GMC that consisted of a mud puddle, low-speed idling, driving onto a rock, and then a gas mileage comparison.
Here is a hint fellas...if you put "off-road" in the title you should probably take them off-road. Seeing them work is one thing, watching you guys point at capabilities in a parking lot does nothing.
Certainly cannot be lack of funding since you had the budget to buy a 100k TRX.
Power Wagon*
That front bench seat is the kicker for me!
Get the 75th anniversary edition. No bench seat then.
Front bench seat is must for me with 4 kids.
Ram TRX, only because you guys reviewed it!
It’s the 6 cylinder that pisses me off after coming from a 2012, and 2014 V8... Ford throat punched America with this BS.
In a perfect world, we could supercharge a Prius... but it’s still gonna be a Prius, and in my perfect world, there wouldn’t be any Prius’, or Raptors with 6 cylinders!💪🏼😝🇺🇸
Amen.
Ford's trying really hard to wean everyone off of V8s to little wimpy turbocharged 3-cylinders that won't see 150k miles.
Power Wagon. We tow.
Raptor all day long
Hilarious exhaust note on that Raptor, lol
Ecoboost.....hahahaha
450hp 510tq! Who laughing now.
@@brentvance3958 What's a bite without the bark?
Shall we discuss the TRX?
@@surprisek3918 A bite without bark is a quiet kill instead of an anemic noise maker
@@therealjohnsmith4811 Exactly, who wants to listen to that drone all the time. A old man, too worried about what everyone thinks about his d, that's who.
Power Wagon all the way.
Andre: "quite" (very) ≠ "quiet" (silent) ... they are NOT monophones, they DON'T sound the same. You're saying things like "the tires are QUIET big ..." that's WRONG WRONG WRONG! 🤣🤣🤣
Have a Merry Christmas, a Happy & Healthy New Year .Stay Safe and GOD Bless, to the TFL Crew.
I went from a Ram to a 2020 Raptor. Things I miss about the Ram.
1. Heater steering wheel button
2. Rearview camera without being in reverse
3. Rearview camera is 10x better
4. Uconnect because Sync is absolute 🗑
Other than that, I love my Raptor.
I want to go from a 2020 raptor to a 2022 power wagon. Raptor ain’t doing too good up here in the Arctic
Power Wagon for me!
Rapotor
Ugh, RAID, yall aren't in the memo of not shilling for them. Hold some integrity haha.
Oh boy do I wish I could buy and drive a Power Wagon in my country...
I love the front third seat too, awesome feature in my opinion.
i´ve done the fourth choice, i bought an Ram Rebel
H.D. is a great platform for an off roader. solid 1 ton floating axles, 9.5" front and 11.5" ring gear on the rear. No rubber C.V.'s to get ripped off by debree. bushes, rocks etc.. C.V. joints are weaker than a solid axle. H.D. Frame can stand up to the front winch. Raptor is a toy. The Power Wagon is a tool.
ruclips.net/video/tbZS4Lb7vFg/видео.html
I also dont get why people trash on electronic 4x4 hi/lo button/knob controls. GM was doing button controls in the 90s. Yet people dump on new trucks for it.
Obviously the power wagon since you put a soft topper on the raptor... makes the truck look soft
TFL does understand that ford makes a raptor for alot less than 70+k