Material Collecting Made Fun!! - Blunderbuss V 2.0 | Elite Dangerous
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Guys, jesus, it's not about the weapons or ship he's using. It's about killing pirates and scooping the mats. You don't NEED this exact build to do this.
Exactly.
You can also apply the same mentality to Federation & Imperial Rank. All you have to do is take missions from a faction that has the FED or IMP logo. Can be any mission.. trade, combat, etc. Taking the Rep+ payouts will boost it the fastest, but even if you take cash or mats you still build rank. When you're selecting a "home base" maybe try finding one that has a few factions that are FED or IMP that way you'll build up rank without even noticing it when doing missions for them.
When I started the game, I saw this video. I made it goal to make this ship. Well, I finished this build. Just wow. This thing just shreds ships and I'm pretty crap at combat. Thank you!
I think all Astro is really trying to say is this is a lot funner than grinding mats for hours on end. I just spent a entire day at the Jameson Wreck Site grinding encoded mats. It makes me hate the game designers
I feel your pain brother.
If you want to get materials without grinding all you need is to spend several months in power play and have already grinded the materials for a fully engineered ship. Super easy! Barely an inconvenience!
Lol
Videos assuming you've already finished the endgame are TIGHT
To be fair, you can do that in pretty much any ship. It doesent NEED to be condas, any pirate drops a bunch of materials.
I agree however that for demonstration purposes an unengineered ship wouldve been more suitable.
@The Infidel It is fun to use different ships with different weapons apart from same old cutter/conda/vette with beams and multicannons. Its not really totally useless either as you are still required to farm materials even when you have engineered up to this point. This isn't a new player's build. If you want help for materials as a new player go look at his many other videos covering this topic.
I’ve got an engineered Phantom and I find this video massively useful. There are many ships that I have and want to engineer so, although the Phantom was quite a grind to engineer, I can use these methods to sort out my other ships. Pretty simple, really.
It really boils down to "playing the game." Some days you feel like driving the SRV in circles... Sometimes chasing pirates is the flavor of the day. Play the game, in your ship, your way. 😎
* looks at thumbnail *
Oh boy I can’t wait for some
*material colletiing*
I'm looking for A SHIP BUILD TO COLLECT MATERIALS, AND THE SHIP YOU BUILT Has every component modified. I just find this amusing as hell.
The corvette is the best pve ship in the game. Even without engineering It's quite strong against npcs
Krait
@@nicolaunionsspezialfiliall3962 not when you factor in travel time. Best all around ship is the Anaconda.
@@fuzzythoughts8020 Depends on what you want to do, if you're farming in a haz res for example you won't need to jump around much.
Obsediant Ant and Bill should be getting a check from ED. I think their the reason why most people purchase this game. If they stopped playing half of ED player base would drop.
lol no u must be an idiot or something
Yes when someone who I do not even play with quits the game, I uninstall
"Material Collecting" build is engineered...
and power play weapons XD so youre looking at even more time lol
Just do Dav's Hope. I'd rather do that for an hour and a half than grind combat locations for hours with less yield. If you do Dav's Hope for an hour and a half you will have enough manufactured materials for a while. And if you have 30ish range and you're in the bubble then it's not a long journey.
Doing Dav's Hope is a waste at this point. If you're in a hurry to fill up, just hit a HGSS and use the process of resetting it to fill up on any G5 mat then down trade and cross trade.
Yep pretty pointless video well below the usual standard
@@johnflannery9401was it the built you didnt like or the fact that its engineered ?
The whole reason for gathering materials is to engineer a ship like yours that you’re using to gather materials as you described. LOL. I look forward to achieving that someday.
Don't be such a shitter. Put your time in and he and I and everyone else that have played the game for years.
So many of you will play a game like fallout and go through the exact same grind mechanics and not bitch one time about it. But in Elite. . .
If you just want to get your first engineered ship up and ready, go grind high grades. If you already have a dozen ships you certainly want a change from that tho.
Allso, i totally WILL complain about any game that forces me to spend more time relogging than playing the actual game.
Its not like systems have a dozen highgrades that you can actually farm, you search for half an hour for a suitable HG and then play relog dangerous.
I am shocked about FDev's definition of "gameplay", those guys need an employee that isnt completely retarded.
Great vid D2EA. I've yet to play about with an Allaince Chieftain so this could he a good laugh! However... the massive amount of engineering and power play required beforehand is rather off putting. I have a load of materials but no doubt I'll need a load more to tier 5 every module. Think I'll start raiding Pirates with my Vette, grab some materials and slowly put my Chieftain together. Sweet!
Just got a Chieftain and Crusader. Funny coincidence. That’s what I’m using them both for. Thanks for the info, now I know where to go, and to take my friend to for piloting my launch fighters. I have a different weapons load out, but it works for me. One ship has two plasmas and four multi-cannons, the other has three rails and three multi-cannons. Haven't done any power-play just yet, so I got to work with what's currently available to me...
Looks like a fun build.
Some friends and I do similar on 'massacre pirate' missions.
You end up with enough low level mats to trade.
Love this method . . . i can't tell if i'm worse at staying behind targets or hitting with fixed weapons. But still tons of fun.
If you're anything like me... it's both
If I fly into a level 5 I'm like that film about the car thief's. Dead in 60 seconds............I mean 'gone'
The reason why your limpets almost always die in engagements is because point defense utility mounts will shoot down projectiles of hostile targets. Limpets are counted as projectiles, and are linked to their owner, so if you are hostile to a pirate with point defense and have limpets active they will shoot them down as soon as they are in range. It's really useful if you are flying a T9 and get interdicted by a cheeky pirate packing hatchbreaker limpets but otherwise it's just an interesting, mildly annoying aspect of material collection in combat.
Great video, and while I know this exact ship build is not essential, for those of us collecting materials for the first time we need a ship load out that requires no engineering to build - just the credits to buy.
Been doing that in a Haz res for a while. Not that I do combat often, but when I do, I always have some cargo with limpets and a collector. :)
Oh hey TiL what I was already doing was this cool thing... TbH learning to manually scoop is pretty fast in Chieftain hulls and skips the need for limpet management entirely. Looking at those cytos struggle I'm realizing my entirely un-engineered dumbfire crusader build isn't actually that bad at shield breaking considering i'm fighting the exact same target.
I fly a FDL do I had to learn to scoop.. once I learned to slow down to about 40 it became easy
Also look for kill missions that will teward you for massacring pirates when you plan to farm them for mats.
Might as well get some mats /money as reward too
My build for this exact job is 3 beam lasers and the rest multi cannons. I use the crusader over the chief. I will also take a few pirate massacre missions to be earning credits while I blast crap. I have similar builds for about 12 other ships.
Assassinate missions are also a good place to get materials.
Your videos are always very helpful
type 10 for the win
Every time I see these videos, I'm saddened at the loss of the old galaxy map. It used to be just so clean and easy to navigate - whereas the new one is just frustrating to use...
Is it possible to find a version of this build that does not use or require a shizit-load of engineering, guardian, and power play items?
Supposedly, the idea behind the build is to be able to collect the mats you need in order to be able to do the various engineering to improve your ship(s). If I need to have that much engineering, plus guardian, plus power play completed (not to mention the hundreds of millions of credits to buy all the various modules). Just to be able to build the ship needed to collect the mats. Then I've already collected all of those mats and no longer have any need for a ship built for collecting mats with.
you know what, don't mean to be disrespectful, i am blessed with all my grandparents alive after their 70's-80's, but man, with the covid-home experience maybe i'll just get back into elite after a year off. yep, maybe it's time to do allnighters once more.
What does pulling allnighters in elite have to do with respect or your grandparents though?
No matter how often it is repeated, it is wrong that Cytos don't work against hull. As long as the corrosive effect is on the hull (see HUD indicator for the target) they damage the hull. I take an engineered Ana down with an Adder with two Cytos and a corrosive frag cannon. Just takes too long so without ammunition builds with 4x rails on e.g. the Gunship kill much faster. Always have something with you to put corrosive on the hull and cascade on the shields to cancel SCBs if you want to kill quickly.
Exactly. That's because corrosive temporarily nerfs the target's Armor Rating all the way down to 0, so suddenly a weapon with an armor penetration of 1 does full damage. Kinda weird that D2EA had exactly the right setup and still didn't figure it out. Except the experimental on the cytos, he got that wrong as well.
I've been bounty hunting for materials for years. Why grind unprofitable actions when you can be earning credits and still get all the materials you need?
how dp you do that?
@@sirdave2985 By collecting all the materials from the ships I destroy while bounty hunting.
Anyone got a idea on how i am over-mass on upgrading my chieftan ? I literally just got it, I got other ships also. Im new to the game still, but i end to upgrade just a few core items. Once i went to upgrade it said you can't even buy this module cause your OVER-MASS.
I’m burnt out grinding mats for just 3 grade 3 overcharged multi cannons.. I haven’t even visited any other engineers yet =(
Just use material trader and bountyhunting. Grade 3 is fast that way
Do you have a ship built with no engineered parts maybe?
Take a Krait
A-rate everything
Fixed beams on the 2s, gimballed frags on the 3s
Full size A rated shield
3 A rated shield boosters
1 chaff
1 fighter hanger with your preferred fighter and crew
Everything else filled with hull refs
There you go. Unengineered ship that will still kill anything easily.
There is no fun in material collec...
OK, I guess there is a way!
Thanks Astro! o7
Well because I can’t engineer I’ll just keep shooting and collecting.
Thanks for posting this
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Excellent video as always. Looks like a very interesting build, I had the Coriolis link saved but the site has updated and the link now gives an error message. Any chance you could export the build again and re-link
How do you possible gather all of the mats needed to build all the various ships you post? In addition to making the number of video's your able to make.
Got back in the game after a few years, decided to invest time into engineers, came upon that video on how to collect engineer's materials, looks like a fun way to gather said materials, "only thing" is, you need to be pledged for 1 month to lasers/shotgun boy, and have GUARDIAN++ENGINEERED++ shield booster to actually do it the way it's being explained.
So -> to farm materials for engineers, you need a fully engineered ship and a 1 month faction grind. Any link to like "how to easy farm engineer materials for the very first time" ? Because the whole "you need da thing to farm da thing" concept is bugging me...
There are a ton of videos that show you how yo do just that, while spending very little money on a ship capable of doing it. This isn't a beginner video, but there are tons of that content available. Including from D2EA.
Great Build. As i don't have acces to cytos, are there good alternative weapons to replace them?
I know this is an extremely late reply and you probably know this by now, but for anyone reading, the substitute for ctyos would just be Burst Lasers with short range blaster modification and intertial impact experimental effect. This increases your damage by 50% and splits the damage between thermal and kinetic, so after their shields go down, you can keep using the burst lasers to good effect. This introduces a strong jitter, which means you need be close to the enemy to make it worth it
@@jl3114 thank you for the advice!
@@user-nn5rl2wu8z You bet :) o7 CMDR
Why not double shot on pacifiers? Essentially it's 100% damage increase since your ammo doubles as well, so your capacity stays the same.
so .. if using short range on those cyto's and only having literally 500m range, why go oversized instead of inertial impact? the extra jitter doesnt matter anymore on that range and even if a very few beams go past its still more.
also why the overcharged on the pacifiers when double-shot does more dps as well?
ikr its just straight up throwing away dps
where is the link to your tool box with all ur ship builds . link u provided only lets me select 1
If your like me and can't get close and die lol any long range builds?
you should switch you build to edsy its more acurate in numbers in coriolis many times the stats are not so acurate so edsy have become better in this category so for ship building and planing exact numbers are very important
This + 10 stacked massacre/assassination missions.
The massacre missions stack? I've read the opposite yesterday
They no longer stack, each kill will counted on one mission only and it's the lowest paying mission you have if I recall correctly
Sooooooooo A guide to get mats in a fun way when you need all those mats to make this build :) Riiiighhhttttt xD
Im just going to stay in my corvette and destroy stuff :P
I built this monster about 2 months ago...
I did not get it at first.... Mainly because I sucked... :(
Then I tried it again... Then I got it! :O
OMG!!! This thing truly is a Monster!!!
Thank you! :)
Yes it is hard to stay on target... But you only have to stay on target for a few seconds...
what if u went full shotgun build with this ship?
Am I being really blind and/or stupid but all Alliance type ships (Chieftain, Crusader, Challenger) only have 1 large hard point? How are you equipping 2???
Hey bud can you please make a video of the same thing with an unengineered ship please
Why make a whole 'nother video? You just do the exact same thing, but with an unengineered ship....
checked the build. rear admiral since yesteday. imma buy a Corv instead.
Hi Mr Down Astronomy why my collector Limpets instantly expired after putting an engineering material on my cargo? Its a waste of limpet
Don’t target the individual materials. If you do that then a collector goes off and does that one piece and then expires after delivery. Target nothing and all the collectors will collect everything and not expire.
@@ColinMcAlister-kilt thank you much I didnt realize while Im mining Im targetting the rock... Wish I could learn more cause Im not planning to gather Materials down to a planet
Quick question Astro, you say "when your within 1000m pirates will show up on your nav screen" 1000m near what?? I've spent a while zooming about and other than raiding haz res sites nothing you've described has shown up? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Still waiting for the colleting to start...
You've never said what types of materials are gonna drop tho =(
Up to grade 3 usually . rare to get above that
you can try out this game this may be something for you @ujkU
The salt is real in this comment section
It's mostly not without reason :D
@@Krosis_ Actually, it kind of is. Those of us with a fleet of engineered ships still have engineering to do. WTF? Are we supposed to only collect mats in a stock ship?
Exactly this is just showing a way of gathering mats using a more fun/unusual build to the normal conda or vette that tears things apart in 5 seconds. At no point does this claim to be for new players.
@@Krosis_ It's mostly 100% without reason.
How does one manage to keep NPC's from doing nothing but jousting. Humans have to obey the laws of physic's unless they are quite suficent utilizing FA off, which only a few well seasoned player can manage to do.
Have better maneuverability. Use boosts to compensate when they use their boosts to try and get position on you. There is a reason he's going for Anacondas... they fly like bricks.
wait....wanted? Everybody in my pirate activity area has been lawless. What gives?
Are you saying "CRYPTO-Scramblers?" Or CYTO-Scramblers? Sigh-Toe Sight-oh.
He's saying something in damn good English when you consider it's his second language. Don't be an ass, the name of the weapon can be read at 5:00 and it's Cyto.
yeah it is not a kyto it is is zyto
I don't know how the hell I'm supposed to deal with the engineered anacondas, but this build is crap for staying on the ones they have these days
colletiing tells me all i need to know about this video.
Not possible
One has to wonder..whom this video is actually targeting. Noobs? I doubt they had the time to actually unlock all the engineers necessary for this build and had enough mats to start the actual engineering on armor, shields, boosters etc....second they would have had to pledge to Archon for a month..this guy is giving advices on flying tactics when he can't even maneuver behind a NPC Anaconda in a G5 Chieftain..Third, after years playing the game and uploading engineering vids he still didn't figure out that any weapon can pierce through hull as long as used in conjonction with another corrosive weapon...they are better options for ships and loadouts out there with way better results.There is so much more that I could add but I'm gonna keep it short..useless build..useless vid
It's obviously not targeting noobs you dumb arse. It's targeting more experience players who have already done engineering and power play and want to do combat while collecting mats in a more interesting build than a boring vette or conda with beams and MCs that just tear things to pieces in 5 seconds.
Perhaps you missed the part where he literally told you who this build is aimed at. Try paying attention next time instead of crying into your cereal.
This video should be called "how to have fun with pirates in an engeneered ship"... or maybe "how to collect material for you OTHERS ships, now you've reached the endgame"... I'm new in the game, and let's just say it didn't helped me.
How to collect materials in a fun and interesting way? First get an engineered ship with engineered weapons where you need materials for engineering.
Man this video is not down to earth at all. lol
5min in and stopped. Thought the same. Usually he does good content, but this one was rather useless.
@@YISP7 VERY USELESS
@@randomv3iwer yeah. i love guides like this: "First you have to unlock/upgrade everything yourself, BUT now you can do it again, but faster and more enjoyable" :D
DTEA, your vids are usually very useful but this vid is kinda comical in how much time you talk about a completely unneeded ship build which requires Power Play grind. There are many other ship builds which would be just as fun and not require two months of work to build. You should have focused briefly on one of more of those.