Secrets in the Cutscenes of MGSV | ONE | Hospital Bed
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Ever since the 2015 release of Hideo Kojima's METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE PHANTOM PAIN, fans have endlessly speculated over its many secrets, misdirects, and possible interpretations. Yet its harshest critics, on the other hand, have alleged the game was left unfinished, and ultimately unfulfilling.
A common complaint has been that TPP lacked cutscenes with the typical MGS substance, and that it's story feels elliptical. Even die-hard fans have convinced themselves of a coming secret 'Chapter Three', where every dot will be connected, and every stray plot-line conclusively tied up.
But is it possible that underneath it all, MGSV is not only a completely finished game, but one with more detailed, rich, and nuanced cut-scenes than any entry before it?
In this new series from Futurasound Productions, creator of the hit trilogy 'WTF Happens in MGSV', we return again to the polarizing and mysteriously hypnotic swan song that is MGSV:TPP - this time to take a deeper dive than ever, specifically into the cutscenes.
Does one of the nurses at the beginning wear a wig? Are there phantoms that continually reappear throughout the hourlong, action packed, psychedelic opening? Are there hidden clues beneath its many layers of violence, psychosexuality, and quasi-mysticism? Let's find out! 
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The whole game felt like a fever dream.. Dream of someone in a coma... The man on fire, the floating boy, salehanthopos, whale on fire, unicorn on fire all seemed very surreal and dream like to me.
Man, this mgs it's the most surreal mgs, maybe it's fault of the brain damage that Venom have
I was in a coma-like state when waiting for the helicopters to arrive.
@John KissTheCockOffOfHim I don't think sahelantropous actually works by itself, rather it's being controlled by the psycho kid
@John KissTheCockOffOfHim you obviously didn't pay attention if you think Salahantrophus is more advance than Rex and Ray.
@John KissTheCockOffOfHim you obviously didn't. Go try again, May be listen to the cassette tapes this time.
"well thats enough for now"
Wait Don't go, I have so many questions.
ring otacon
He's on frequency 141.12.
@@MegaSolidninja HmM 141.12? OKAY! Contacting him Now
NO RESPONSE
Such is why dialogue is crucial. And where else to get it, but in Futura's comment section?
BTW Otacon is pissing himself in a closet...
Jesus Christ dude the MGS rabbit hole just keeps going.
That’s the beauty of it
I'd like to see someone make a genuine decent "Metal Gear Iceberg" rabbit hole image (or images if each game was done separately). I've seen one or two on reddit but those just scratched the surface of all the complexity of the games. Kojima has said something before about how he enjoys making a game that is more than just what's on the disk, like the Moby Dick Studios stunt before MGSV and the mask of a bandaged up face he wore in interviews. The way he creates speculation, and creates scenarios in his games that create feelings for the player to either put yourself in the shoes of the protagonist or make a greater expression using the game to convey Kojima's desired tone. Like the surprise Raiden protagonist bait and switch up in MGS2 teaching a lesson in free will. As well as how in MGSV finding out you never were playing as the real Big Boss invalidating everything you done as by some unnamed field doctor made players feel hollow, as well as the proper ending was missing gave the players a yearning for validation and completion like feeling incomplete and something was missing like phantom limb syndrome. Unable to come to terms a part of you is missing. See what I mean about the rabbit hole going so deep, I was just trying to make a short comment regarding its complexity and ended up typing a manifesto on the series...
It will never end. He still has a litany of multiple-realizability to get through. 'miles to go before I sleep...' as they say.
@@TrumpCardMAGA that was deep my friend. MGS.... the best game franchise of all time
This RUclipsr has a 3 part series of 40 minute videos just to explain the story of this one game. He does go pretty in depth, but there is a lot of complicated lore in this series.
I like the idea that since the game is from the perspective of Venom Snake, it all cant be trusted because he himself is not a reliable narrator. That’s probably why we, as the player, have Ocelot feeding us almost everything in terms of information, tactics and context.
But then again, he’s not entirely reliable either.
That’s the issue. Ocelot has himself fooled half the time so how reliable can anyone be as a narrator? Especially since the whole premise of the game is based on a ruse
I'm so glad you highlighted the whole "is it really digoxin"? or "is that really what digoxin does"? because technically, Venom's handlers keep him dosed with the substance throughout the entire story. Through the Phantom Cigar, for example. And they make you pick it up in the field, too, as Digitalis purpurea, or "Foxglove", from which digoxin is derived. At higher doses, it causes loss of appetite, confusion, drowsiness, dizziness, insomnia, nightmares, agitation, and *depression, hallucinations, anxiety and colour fading, acute psychosis, delirium, amnesia*, convulsions. Several of these symptoms they claim are from your helicopter crash, but it could easily be from the drug.
Venom Snake is "full of venom" . Ocelot says so, almost in an approving way. Sounds to me like someone's casually congratulating his pet project on having passed a certain threshold.
But venom is also a term for anger. And venom hunted Skull Face for revenge and vengeance, and vengeance is a symptom of anger. What your saying is true but I think Ocelots line has more nuance.
@@oscarlima.729 Oh I agree, Ocelot is made of nothing BUT nuance :D
not to mention there's always pills around when V is in bathrooms and stuff, he's been kept drugged like a brainwashed mind controlled victim the entire game! Its amazing they got him to complete any of those missions lol
@@Neon_Ghost1 Also have to take parasites into account, all but confirmed that he was under that same state as the patients in the Devil’s House
Which makes sense, because regardless if you never use the phantom cigar throughout the game, venom will smoke it either way after certain scenes
Actually the reason Venom wakes up from the coma is explained. The plane crashed when Mantis and Venom "linked" while the plane flew over the hospital in Cyprus
Psychic shockwave.
Ok I understand that I guess, but the same thing happens with Eli to start mission 31&50. Boy attacked venom but not eil when linked?
Got to be some reasoning behind this
@@dmurphy915 Yes, this is also explained. Mantis/the boy seeks out the strongest emotiom of revenge around him. Once he links with somebody this person can in some way use and control him. This is why when he links with the man ln fire his sleeves trun into fire and when he links with venom he gains his horn.
The boy will carry the other persons strogest desire. If he is already linked to someone but someone else comes with a stronger feeling of revenge he will ditch the previous person and link with the new one. This is what happens to the man on fire when Eli comes close in the helicopter. And since Eli really hates Snake and no one else, he focuses him with Sahelantropus.
What? This just blew my mind.
Is there a cutscene for this?
How did you figure this out?
@@agnel47 Listening on the tapes and paying lots of attention in cutscenes
As someone who has been in a coma, albeit short (2 ½ months.) This game hits in a strange way I doubt most people who don't go through one will understand. I still question my life after my coma, things seem strange and out of place yet perfectly in line, and it seems like yesterday's important details are today's forgotten history. In the same Vein of The Phantom Pain, this game is absolutely brilliant and I really wish it would have been as fleshed out as intended.
Isn't 2,5 months really long for a coma? Aren't these ultra long comas mostly just delayed death?
@@steinkoloss7320The "normal" length for a coma is like, two to four weeks or so, but they can last much, much longer without just being "delayed death". A nine-year coma isn't super common, but it also isn't completely unheard of. Two people simultaneously suffering nine-year comas from the same incident, however-
(The joke there was supposed to be that Venom was artificially put under to match the length of Naked's coma but it almost came off as if I didn't know that so I'm clarifying that here ahdnfnf)
What threw me off the most during playing mgsv was when I found a cassette tape that had The Cure Friday Im in Love. A song that was released in 1992.
This is the ultimate mind fuck
It might be that some years passed throughout your playthrough of the game, I doubt Venom recovered from a coma, became strong again, and carried out every single story mission all within one year
@@luischavez1701 well notice how it seems that in just 5 I'm game days DD is fully grown? I think dd is a good reference that everything took place in a period of a couple years, despite what the game subtitles say in the beginning of each mission.
@@iamjuuno1942 that is very true
@@iamjuuno1942 that could be but what about the chilren! think about the chilren! lol eli and his mates didn't really age, they could have been phantoms too I suppose after they left but who knows...
Someone is still making vids on this game?
"Your pretty good"
Kept you waiting, huh?
you're
20:06
That doesn't just look like Ishmael, it IS him, he's literally behind the courtain.
A guy used a hack to move the camera in free mode during that cutscene and Ishmael is literally on the other side, sticked to the courtain in the same pose as when Venom is sticked to a wall.
He's also crouched behind it in the sequence when Quiet attacks you.
And by the way, the thing about the tapes maybe not being always with Venom and Ocelot and instead with Big Boss is true.
In the game's files there's some strings that indicate the tape where Ocelot explains where the name Salashaska came from was originally meant to be bundled with the Truth tapes, so that might be a tape that was between Big Boss and Ocelot.
There is no such thing as truth. Only interpretation.
Looks like batman to me
@@picksleet9268 Snake _is_ Batman. This was Kojima's masterplan all along.
Wouldn’t that raise Venoms suspicions immediately? Having not actually been in the conversation, yet Ocelot is referring to someone as Boss?
@@DayZeroGaming dumbest shit ever said
One note - "108", the number of foreign bodies embedded in Venom Snake, is a number with HEAPS of symbolic connotations. Also, the fact that they're embedded near his heart is kinda sweet. Paz (and everyone else who was lost) will always be with him, their roots are already planted in him.
Also, the doc says the bandages were for your protection, then SECONDS AFTER THEY'RE REMOVED, Quiet shows up and starts killin' folks. Now those're some damn good bandages.
42:48 About the flanger effect, it is made by mixing two identical voices, and one of them is getting delayed by changing slightly its period over time.
All these videos are making me want to replay MGSV all over again.
Same
I literally replay it twice a year it’s so good
Do it with me
I did this year. Very worth it.
Recently did. Still an outstanding stealth game, and holds up incredibly well on a technical level.
Very interesting analysis. There are many recurring themes and settings in MGSV but they are included so subtly that I don't think that 90% of the players ever even notice them.
Something about the theme of mirrors and perception that was a big part of this analysis: A phantom pain is literally treated with mirror therapy. The amputated limb is put behind a mirror and the remaining one in front of it. Then the patient looks at the reflection and mirrors the actual limb's movements with their phantom limb, which can release the limb from the chronic pain. The pain obviously is caused by the brain but just by cheating your perception there is a chance that the pain stops.
Actually, in the Truth ending where Venom Snake punches the mirror with his bionic arm the reflection shows a healthy, actual arm instead. Also in that image the string of Snake's eyepatch is reclected so that it's visible on both sides of his forehead forming a V-pattern. I don't think this is a coincidence since the V-pattern is present so much in the prologue as well. The meaning of the whole mirror scene is pretty much up for one's interpretation but it still seems to be quite meaningful imagery, nonetheless.
Midge Ure sounds just like Bowie in that cover, making the idea that much better!
Its a great cover. Imo even better than Nirvanas Cover.
@@halloweenjack95 Because it does something different, Midge Ure makes it his own. Whereas Nirvana's cover is fairly faithful, musically.
@@chronic_johnson_a.r.a.b agreed
@CARPAINTM3 I think I do prefer the Midge Ure version, despite not really being a fan of the 80s sound. I like a lot of Bowie's music, but he can be hit or miss. The original is still good, but the Midge Ure one has more of a mystical atmosphere.
the cover is in the game because Snake is Venom not Naked, the same but different song for a different pg
One thing that is a little fun to mention: chain smoking finally saved a life, because the lighter Big Boss used to torch Quiet would only have been in his possession because of his smoking habit, and without that lighter Venom Snake would have died in that hospital.
Dude, the guy that makes these videos is insane.
You have single handedly made me appreciate this game for the undisputed underrated masterpiece that it is.
Thank you for this. I've been on an MGSV bender and the algorithm shepherded your work my way with haste. This game is so compelling in this way. People have belittled its story so badly, it's a wonder how Kojima wasn't discouraged after clearly putting so much visual subtlety into his message.
I swear, this is like the only channel that really gets TPP in its totality. I don’t get the urge of video game critics to prioritize plot over subtext. 90% of the best literature of all time would be worthless if you did that.
I imagine if I were Venom, finally remembering who I really am, I’d be like “Fuckin SWEET! I’m Big Boss!!” Then after a moment of reflection, I’d think... “Wait.. I had two eyes.. them bastards plucked one of my eyes out?!?”
Well Venom Snake probably Lost his sight in the right eye because of the shrapnel enbeded in his skull . He had multiple injuries throughout his body from shrapnel, but most of the damage was located in his head . Its plausible to assume that he got struck in the optic nerve , thus his eye turning opaque , its also a Little hint to hardcore fans that Venom isnt Big Boss because Big Boss had his eye shot off in Snake Eater, so how come in MGSV his eye (albeit unusable) is intact? I love kojima for throwing all these obvious hints in his games
@@luispereira3704 Big Boss's eye wasn't shot off, the muzzle flash from Ocelot's gun blinded him. The blood was from the bullet skimming past his head
@@TheMasterUnity wow really? To me it always looked like he got hit with the bullet
@@luispereira3704 Yeah it does seem like it, with the extremely exaggerated amounts of blood
@@TheMasterUnity bro he was shot in the in the eye....
Another outstandingly well-researched and presented video essay, thank you.
Perhaps after watching some of your videos people will begin to appreciate the brilliance of the narrative of MGSV.
Hopefully
definitely happened in my case. I was a fan of MGS 3, but that's it, TPP was underwhelming at that time. Now I'm playing SoL, and will go through the rest, thanks to this guy
Dude, thank you for your work! Your videos of mgs2 help me with my undergraduate thesis about fake news. Greetings from Brazil!
Im glad you brought back up that head surgeon, the mgsv community seemed to have forgotten about this and his lawsuit that got swept under the rug. I had always wanted a follow up on this but nobody ever did any videos on it.
Wait what?
@@SomeOne-vf1rs exactly
he has been mentioned quite a few times. Mby by Internet Today too
I like the nervous laugh when talking about mishearing things as though you’re worried you may be over analyzing a detail in a video game 😂. Great vid hope it becomes a series
first time ive seen him doing anything like that lol
He references his mental state in relation to his analysis. This guy might actually have a couple screws loose
im never gonna unsee those Vs in the beginning now
“ThEreS nO sTory iN thIs gamE”.
Blasphemy! lol
Hahaha
It does have a story but past metal gears explored deeper in the story even more. More cutscenes, codec conversations etc.
guys he was being facetious making fun of what people were saying at the time.
Well written story and well delivered story is two different thing tho.
theres so much in this game, im blown away by every new detail even 6 years later.
That’s the point
The plane crash talked about was cased by kid mantis.
I totally missed that one till just now
6 years?
@@mirkoscuccato6444 whoops, 66 years i mean
I'm afraid it has been... 8 years
Well, you really are a survivor. No wonder you're so drawn in. That "apophenia" is a remnant of something we needed long before society, now trying to find its new purpose. A current irony we face is how it sort of loops in on itself as we look back trying to understand where it comes from. It could be said, from a certain set of observations, that the human race has evolved toward believing itself to be in a simulation. As you acknowledge your experience while moving forward in your analysis, what you're doing here becomes increasingly helpful in dealing with the very idea of "simulation" as we continue to understand it.
you know how much i feel bad for you? you put so much work on your videos,Especially MGSV videos,and really ripping that Soul and Heart out of the depths of the game to show us that yes,MGSV has a heart and a soul indeed. but you are getting barely any recognition.36K subs is ATROCIOUS. you must have at least 200k by now.
"My brain bark's up the wrong tree"
*BB*
Camp Omega, in front of Chico’s cage: two reflections appear in the visor of the guard opening the door, one the right chest/shoulder at the camera’s POV, the other Skull Face behind to the right (suit has brown/white not otherwise present on Skull Face). “Give her the shot already!?” being almost certainly Troy Baker, the superposition of Skull Face on Miller in the final scenes on the Motherbase deck, etc.
“Give her the shot already” was said by Kaz. Someone even tweeted about it and the voice actor for Kaz, Robin Atkin Downes, liked or retweeted this tweet. It sounds nothing like Troy Baker at all but a whole lot more like Kaz.
The “v” shaped book ends seem to me like Kojima dipping his toes into the concept of chirality which he would later explore further in DS
How can one man go this deep
he has length...i mean he goes the length to...forget it
Kaz said they needed to go even deeper and he just did
He removed his balls :D
Well, it gets easier when you start seeing sybolism and meaning where there probably is none, i suppose.
I mean, i think this guy does point out some things that are really intruiging, don't get me wrong. But like, the hexagonal floor tiles being a reference to the honey bee mission? Come on.
@@1CE. TF
I thought the decapitated pig head was a reference to "Lord of the flies"
I shall never uninstall MGSV. YOU'LL always be with me. You planted your roots in me.
Plant your nacho cheese in me
You’re all Doritos
@@1CE. hhhahaahhHahHHHahahha
The point about Venom's first line sounding like the affect in Bowie's Diamond Dogs album was a really little detail, and it's insane you noticed it. I thought it was a bit odd, until you played the clip of the Voice line and I instantly recognized it, because I'd been listening to the album literally today lmao
All of this makes me miss what would have been on Act 3 even more. Great analysis, Jorin.
What if act 3 (episode 51) was left out in purpose by kojima, to make us fee pain…
…phantom pain.
@@martin_crakc786 I choose to see it this way. It's the only way that can ever make sense at this point.
I picked up on a subtle hint something was off in the opening cutscene, when the doctor shows you your face, and you have the one white eye, I knew something was wrong, I played MGS 3 a ton, and i remember what happened to Snake, its not that he's blind in one eye, he only has one eye, the other was destroyed not blinded. Fantastic little hint there that rewards veterans of the series.
HOLY SHIT I DID NOT NOTICE THAT WHAT THE FUCK
Coulda been a glass eye, but then, why would he make himself one that was blind? It defeats the purpose
I learn more and more about this game every time I watch a new video even though I have over 3000 hours.
''Was 'The Man Who Sold The World' the trigger for our awakening?... Who knows?'' 🎶Not Me!🎶 < I see what ya did there ;)
I never lost control...
Another difference is that the Prologue is much darker than Mission 46, as if you’re not able to see everything/remember everything as it was
Next week, Metal Gear Solid and Christmas, a 30 minute video.
Jokes aside, this channel is so fucking amazing. Keep it up, you're doing amazing work. Thank you so much for all the effort you go through, it totally shows.
You're nuts if you don't think I've got a Christmas special up my sleeve Boss
You've been in a coma for quiet some time
That is the dumbest joke but also the funniest one I’ve ever heard
Hahahahaha!!
Good work Boss.
*BA DUM CHING*
I like that after 5 years there's still so many Theories about this game!
I just got into MGSV and finding this video is so perfectly timed to fully grasp the story. You've tied it all together so well.
Wabba duck?
Wow...just wow...you blew my mind once again
24:01 Since the first time I heard these tapes, I assumed the real BB was speaking here simply because he always be ready with a quick answer, like during gameplay (a joke most of time, like with the "We gave her a light, she took the short way down") or with the first GZ cutscene briefing where there's a _real dialogue_ between Kaz and Snake unlike with Venom in TPP where Ocelot tells you everything you need to know
Your videos are absolutely fantastic. I didn't catch the vast majority of these in my time with the game. Keep up the great work, looking forward to what's up next.
I love your videos Jorin. Binging all these videos right now, it's so awesome to see not only someone who loves MGSV as much as I do talk about it so passionately but do such hard work into an analysis of the work and shine a light on all of it to share with us and help us deepen our love for the game
As a person that has never touched a single MGS game in my life, I have binged all your content and lived the game vicariously through you. Please keep up the good work.
hey you must get there in some form aye...
there's so much in the intro that you could attach meaning to, I found lots of things during the crawling phase and later in the first mission to save Miller. But I believe that level nuance is always intended in a Kojima game
Please make these on the whole game, this was so good and I can’t thank you enough for the extremely fine details you pointed out
"Hurt me more!"
Only a fool trust his life to a weapon
@@dmurphy915 hand to hand is basis of all fight
Never expected my hometown (Limassol) to be mentioned in a Metal Gear video.
Best MGS analysis content I've seen on RUclips. Well done sir.
Thank you
I’ve been replaying v but it is missing so much now
And i am glad for this new series
You, my friend, are a very talented individual. No matter how old videos are, I never get tired of them at each time I watch them is as if it’s my first time. These are like historical masterpieces.
This was so insightful! Please do more!
it boggles my mind how you discover and piece all of this together, good stuff keep it up
I came back to have another listen while working, so happy to see we reached the milestone that was set at the end.
That was absolutely amazing! The hospital is one of my favourite scenes in the game, can't wait to see more!
Just subbed in hope of getting some more of this! I really enjoyed MGSV and always felt the prologue was something special. Once Quiet shows up and the situation starts unfolding intensity is turned up to 11 and got me very invested in the game just like that. It gets crazier as you go and really makes you want to figure out what the hell is happening. As far as giving the player a reason to continue playing, this prologue is a masterclass in that, in my opinion. Really enjoyed your analysis and looking forward to more! I'll check your other vids in the meantime. Cheers
Dude I hope you will continue this series, I loved that video analysis. There's so many details I didn't see even if I watched that intro a thousand times
I like that the Dr Canavero thing from before the release is not forgotten, it was fun trying to understand what kojima was going to do with that game
I really hope we'll get to see an analysis like this on more cutscenes
Always a huge fan of your videos! I absolutely LOVE how in depth you disect the story and all the little secrets. Ive seen many youtube videos on mgsv, but none do such a well job going over the story with facts from our own world, and the detail which you provide is second to none. 10/10 and subscribed!
This was really well made, good work, thanks
Dude, excellent job! Amazing work!!
"It is no nation we inhabit, but a language. Make no mistake;
Our native tongue is our true fatherland."
Absolutely amazing content Boss, love what you are doing and keep us waiting!
great work as always
Amazing video. Very well done.
I need your theory on mission 51 though....
The amount of freakin detail in the mgs games especially in MGS V is amazing
every time i think i've seen everything with mgsv, another one of your videos appear in recommended, and i love the game even more
Hopefully every viewer Likes the video in order to get this circulating. Phenomenal job as always! Kept me glued to the screen.
Man the cutscenes were ABSOLUTELY amazing
Your videos are so meta only real enthusiasts can feel it. Thank you for this quality content!
I love every video you do dude its crazy how every video is a straight banger
Should mention that the doctor in Cyprus is actually a photogrammetry scan of British-born Japanese-based actor Ian Moore.
that feeling when the video is over 30 mins long
your work on MGS is really deep, great videos!
Incredible work! I could listen to stuff about MGSV all day
Omg yes, I love this topic so much!
Great content as always
Fantastic work my friend.
please release part 2 soon! This was soooo good!
great work! thankyou
Love your work. Thank you.
It’s funny how playing this game I really didn’t like it. The themes were not apparent enough to make me accept that it’s supposed to be convoluted, it just felt disjointed and confusing in unintentional ways. But your content makes me really appreciate it
@CARPAINTM3 That's the phantom pain.
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan But there has to be a limit to how much a theme can cover poor handling.
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan man, i love the game just as much as the next guy, but the whole "game is unfinished because phantom pain" theory is really silly. Not EVERY aspect of gameplay has a lore explanation, and vice versa.
@@yellowsaurus4895 you're right, but I guess it's my coping mechanism. Because I still love the game
@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan me too mate. Jorin's videos have given me a newfound appreciation for the game's story (even though i think he's totally reaching a lot of the time). So much so that just last week i repurchased the ultimate edition on pc so i can mod the shit out of it and enjoy it with uncapped frames! Took me like 3 days to actually get everything working but it was worth it lol
This game will be discussed for generations to come. Maybe is indeed the last Kojima masterpiece. I think the whole situation where he left Konami is set up by him because he wanted to move on and to leave us with a phantom pain.
he's a genius, not god. i do feel a phantom pain though.
You’re right about that phantom pain lol
You're awesome, mate
Thank you!
This was a treat, I enjoyed this so so much
I thought this was a completed series! I'm anxiously waiting next episode!
this is great man. thank you so much for this.
Dammit, i really wish have a extensive chat whit kojima about all mgs, that crazy man it's a genius
Great video! Can't wait to see more
You are a genius, listening to you is always a pleasure.
Amazing analysis
I want to ad that even the term “iDroid” is a mirror: iPhone and Android being opposites in design but similar in their overall operation.
wow, this video is insane. i really want this to keep going!
dude you are a true man of culture
please keep doing this awesome series
Thank you, boss. I will await your second transmission.
I always thought it was clever that the doctor taking care of Venom is killed while holding a mirror up, reflecting Venom's past self as a doctor being killed as well to make him into "Big Boss."