The TRUTH About Liquid in MGSV

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    Though Hideo Kojima's MGSV has been out since 2015, many of its secrets remain hiding in plain sight. In this video, Jorin explains an unexpected yet vital 'missing link' concealed behind the drapery in THE PHANTOM PAIN: how the antagonist Skull Face comes to haunt the entire series, via the cipher of Eli, aka Liquid Snake. Along the way, we also discuss the concept of memes in the Dawkinsian sense, how Skull Face and Liquid are parallel characters, and how MGSV uses them to explore concepts like race, fate, and more!
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    Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is a third-person action-adventure game developed by Kojima Productions and published by Konami for the Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC on September 1, 2015.
    The tenth and final main installment of the Metal Gear series, Phantom Pain follows legendary mercenary Big Boss (now known by his codename "Venom Snake") as he awakens in 1984 from a nine-year coma following the destruction of his private military company "Militaires Sans Frontières". With help from his old business partner Kazuhira Miller and rival-turned-ally Revolver Ocelot, Snake must rebuild his mercenary army (now called "Diamond Dogs") while plotting revenge against the shadowy organization "Cipher," as well as its XOF paramilitary unit led by the enigmatic Skull Face.
    Similar to its standalone prologue Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes, Phantom Pain focuses on executing mission objectives in open world environments set in both Soviet-occupied Afghanistan and the Angola-Zaire border region of central Africa, complete with dynamic weather and day-night systems. Stealth is a major component of gameplay, but often optional thanks to Snake's arsenal of combat gear. Players can also upgrade Diamond Dogs' new "Mother Base" in a fashion similar to Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, allowing them to develop new weapons and items. In addition to its single-player campaign, the game includes two player-vs-player multiplayer modes, as well as optional microtransactions and other paid downloadable content.
    The Phantom Pain is notable as the final game in the series with involvement from series creator Hideo Kojima and his Kojima Productions team. Several months before the game's release, Konami began a major restructuring of its games division, ultimately leading to Kojima Productions being treated more as a contractor rather than an internal studio. Unlike prior Metal Gear titles from the same team, Kojima Productions' logo and branding is absent from promotional materials and packaging for the final game. After leaving Konami, Kojima would go on to establish a new independent studio with the same name in 2015.
    The Phantom Pain was bundled together with Ground Zeroes and all DLC as Metal Gear Solid V: The Definitive Experience in late 2016 for Xbox One and PlayStation 4. Phantom Pain's gameplay and graphics engine were later reused for the 2018 survival-focused spin-off title Metal Gear Survive.
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  • @cronereborn5026
    @cronereborn5026 Год назад +139

    Kojima really regretted killing him in mgs1 so much to the extend he had to bring him back with ocelot self hypnosis.

    • @mist12345678910
      @mist12345678910 8 месяцев назад +26

      "I live through this arm"
      Wtf was bro smoking??

    • @jonathanjoestar_real
      @jonathanjoestar_real 8 месяцев назад +8

      He deserves better

    • @Glassandcandy
      @Glassandcandy 4 месяца назад

      @@mist12345678910 The living through the arm thing is real though. When Liquid takes over Ocelot in MGS2 that's actually happening in the lore of the game. Ocelot removed liquids arm from his body and replaced it with a robotic arm for that very reason. Because of the possessions though, it gave him the IDEA of self-hypnosis as a convenient cover, using double think in order to covertly realize the will of the Boss by pulling the wool over Snake's eyes by occluding his true goal.
      People forget that Metal Gear as a series is, and always has been, a "magical realist" setting. Magical realism is a literary genre defined by oxford as "stories that have, typically, a strong narrative drive, in which the recognizably realistic mingles with the unexpected and the inexplicable, and in which elements of dream, fairy story, or mythology combine with the everyday, often in a mosaic or kaleidoscopic pattern of refraction and recurrence."
      Some other great examples of Magic Realist narrative are the novels "Midnight's Children" by Salamon Rushdie, "Love in the Time of Cholera" by Grabiel Garcia Marqeuz, and the novellas "The Trial" and "The Metamorphosis" by German novelist Franz Kafka.

    • @148years
      @148years 4 месяца назад +5

      he probably thought metal gear wouldnt get any sequels so he just killed off liquid

    • @Betito1171
      @Betito1171 Месяц назад +3

      Could just gone the clone route like he did with big boss

  • @Aivottaja
    @Aivottaja Год назад +318

    Big Boss (as far as Liquid knew) to Liquid: "You're a hell of a soldier"
    Liquid in Twin Snakes: "He always told me I was inferior!"

    • @user-hm4yi7um9d
      @user-hm4yi7um9d Год назад +29

      Being a soldier means being a follower. The respect that big boss wanted for them was freedom. The American meme is the war economy, which freedom cannot exist within. Outer heaven is an anarchist state where people that can defend themselves are free to. It's the reason why Big Boss never stopped being a dog of war with them. Until there is no more power, no more true war, everyone is a soldier, a dog of war.

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja Год назад +40

      ​@@user-hm4yi7um9d Yeah, ok. Sure. The point is Fake Snake was giving respect to Liquid. Which contradicts Liquid's statements as an adult of BB always telling him he was inferior.

    • @Amir1991H
      @Amir1991H Год назад +1

      ​@Aivottaja you ok guy? You can give someone respect and still say they are inferior .

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja Год назад +19

      @@Amir1991H You seem to have trouble with reading comprehension. I'll use bold to emphasize the key word.
      "He *always* told me I was inferior"
      Not to mention there's nothing to really suggest BB said anything of the kind. On the contrary. Even the real BB says to "treat them (the LET) like any other people". Meaning he expressed no special loathing towards Liquid or any of his clones, for that matter.
      TPP made Liquid the same kind of mess than PO did Grey Fox. But in that case, at least the game can be considered not canon.

    • @Amir1991H
      @Amir1991H Год назад

      @@Aivottaja no you weirdo. You literally just choked on your own words. Here. Try again. In capital letters. YOU CAN RESPECT SOMEONE AND STILL CALL OR SEE THEM AS INFERIOR.

  • @ALT3CHO
    @ALT3CHO Год назад +227

    I've been playing the game recently and I've been noticing the color blind effect from the cut cutscene where snake shoots eli by mistake all blood is greyed out and it slowly comes back in if you walk around, like in the hospital mission in the staircase or when I'm doing fob its like the game was setting it up the whole time subversively it was such a missed opportunity

    • @tuulenkoti
      @tuulenkoti Год назад +22

      'D..dude it wasn't cut srsly' Konami 2015

    • @MrThecoolman
      @MrThecoolman Год назад +24

      It happens in gameplay too you just gotta get fucked up

    • @OmegaRC59
      @OmegaRC59 Год назад +18

      @@MrThecoolman yeah iirc it's everytime you take a serious injury that you have to heal, right?

    • @GutsTheBeast
      @GutsTheBeast Год назад +6

      @@tuulenkoti Cut-content isn't exclusive to MGSV..............

    • @moist_cabbage8472
      @moist_cabbage8472 Год назад +4

      That also happens if you get injured and have to use the spray

  • @Hack_The_Planet_
    @Hack_The_Planet_ Год назад +28

    Eli and Psycho mantis act as part of Skullfaces legacy

    • @denifnaf5874
      @denifnaf5874 3 месяца назад +1

      And when you kill pschyco mantis eli is calling him worthless while disguised as your mentor mcdonalds.

  • @church0880
    @church0880 Год назад +162

    One of the things I really liked about the MGS games is that if you look at the stories differently, we definitely play as the bad guys.

    • @Knifegash
      @Knifegash Год назад +24

      Solidus did nothing wrong. Well, except for maybe the child soldiers...but they would have been picked up by warlords and forced to face each other rather than the real enemies Solidus turned them to.

    • @aqowamancows8213
      @aqowamancows8213 Год назад +36

      @@Knifegash I'm not gonna state my opinions on solidus but keep in mind solidus himself was a child when he recruited those kids, I'm pretty sure he was 16 at the time? I guess it's a little similar to what liquid did in mgsv

    • @Ner0mancer
      @Ner0mancer Год назад +9

      ​@@aqowamancows8213 yeah he was more of a child commander

    • @Jean-ClaudeGodDamn
      @Jean-ClaudeGodDamn Год назад +19

      ​@@aqowamancows8213I'm pretty sure Solidus was a biological adult at 16, due to accelerated aging

    • @analogsamurai9576
      @analogsamurai9576 Год назад

      It's all about 100 BILLION DOLLARS!

  • @ahabrawgaming1289
    @ahabrawgaming1289 Год назад +100

    Liquid snake needs his own game
    There's a huge gap between mgsv and mgs1

    • @garretmcknight8358
      @garretmcknight8358 Год назад +9

      briefing in mgs1 says that LS was in Iraq during the gulf war

    • @truebigboss
      @truebigboss Год назад +2

      ​@@garretmcknight8358thats actually a cover up, he was a sleeper spy but got arrested. Dont remember where.

    • @alicevioleta3184
      @alicevioleta3184 6 месяцев назад +6

      yeah crazy idea but maybe that huge gap can be filled by... Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2. you know, the games that take place directly after MGSV?

    • @Ealais76
      @Ealais76 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@alicevioleta3184that tell’s solid’s story though, not liquids

    • @jenpachi2408
      @jenpachi2408 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@Ealais76 tbh I don't think we really need liquids back story fleshed out more
      , while it could be interesting Id rather a game that takes place as the boss and we see her journey as the true first "snake"

  • @brentwylie5558
    @brentwylie5558 Год назад +142

    The camera direction in that Eli cutscene is absolutely phenomenal. Kojima is such a leg up on other developers with his cinematics.

    • @Burning_the_toast
      @Burning_the_toast 11 месяцев назад +11

      Kojima wasnt the only person who worked on the game your giving too much credit to one guy

    • @brentwylie5558
      @brentwylie5558 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@Burning_the_toastI was talking about the movie direction… that’s like saying we can’t give James Cameron the credit for how avatar looks because other people animated it. The look and feel of those cinematics can totally be credited to Kojima. He has proven this across many games.

    • @AthenaAutocross
      @AthenaAutocross 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@brentwylie5558 I'd put my money that this was more work by Atsushi Tsugaruya than Kojima.

    • @uberbyte7467
      @uberbyte7467 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@Burning_the_toast he directed those scenes, he's the director, it's not like he priased the modeling or the lighting which would be by different people,

  • @aprilbaker1264
    @aprilbaker1264 Год назад +577

    Liquid deserves his own game

    • @squeebbb
      @squeebbb Год назад +67

      I want one about Solidus' involvement in Libya, or just about him in general.

    • @gjtrue
      @gjtrue Год назад +36

      Agreed. I also feel the same about Gray Fox too. He HAD to have known about what Big Boss and Venom Snake was up to during "Operation Intrude N313". I'd also like to see whatever beef Frank Jaeger possibly had with Revolver Ocelot as well. Ocelot too more than likely at least kept in contact with the real Big Boss and working devilment behind the scenes during the plots of the MSX Metal Gear games.

    • @UncleJacq
      @UncleJacq Год назад +6

      That might revive the series.

    • @ViciousDeliciousIV
      @ViciousDeliciousIV Год назад +5

      I would love this, but don't want Konami to get any ideas

    • @Chrallen06
      @Chrallen06 Год назад +8

      I’m really praying that Konami and Kojima have something sneaky in the works…..

  • @EugenePoole94
    @EugenePoole94 Год назад +15

    The meeting with Eli in Masa Village is a callback(forward) to Snakes first meeting with Raiden in SOL.

  • @Qwazin
    @Qwazin Год назад +97

    I remember smiling playing MGSV when I realised Liquid's first canonical appearance is fighting him on top of a boat which mirrors his final canonical appearance where you fight Liquid Ocelot on top of a boat as well.

    • @frankcastlefan
      @frankcastlefan 11 месяцев назад +7

      OH MY GOD YES! The boat is ostensibly very much in dry dock, he's sitting on a piece of plastic furniture, and the same arm that will carry his meme forward is the one Venom dislocates.

    • @xjustanotherpersonx7967
      @xjustanotherpersonx7967 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@frankcastlefanThe arm didn't play any part

    • @CHRONOFIEND_
      @CHRONOFIEND_ 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@frankcastlefankojima you mad bastard. That’s why we love this guy

    • @frankcastlefan
      @frankcastlefan 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@xjustanotherpersonx7967 I can see what you mean, if you feel Liquid Ocelot was only pretending to be Liquid, but I still kind of prefer the interpretation that Ocelot’s biological father, a Medium, made him susceptible to spirituality/being overcome by the intense hatred Liquid represents; and Liquid’s powerful mental/spiritual hate is certainly canon.

  • @RossOfRoni
    @RossOfRoni Год назад +42

    The right arm reaching out gesture at 8:44 is meant to recall the 3rd Paz hallucination cutscene where Venom extends his arm after Paz while she falls to the bed.

  • @mysticwizard1943
    @mysticwizard1943 Год назад +197

    Great stuff as always. This channel is one of only a few that can analyze MGS without pulling hair-brained theories out of thin air between huffs of industrial adhesive.

    • @fourtruths3324
      @fourtruths3324 Год назад +9

      Afterlife Games moment

    • @sockaponch
      @sockaponch Год назад +3

      That's a very specific but cool metaphor

    • @danielfitzpatrick843
      @danielfitzpatrick843 Год назад +4

      ​@Four Truths yeah I know who he was talking about instantly

    • @673AWSF
      @673AWSF Год назад +4

      Half the explanations Jordin here gives on these games, in these videos, are also massively hair-brained. It’s fun stuff. We’re having FUN.

    • @Johnathanbyers
      @Johnathanbyers Год назад

      Foreal tho

  • @Ner0mancer
    @Ner0mancer Год назад +94

    I love the "That's right, don't blame yourself. Blame me!" like he's talking to a little brat. If he'd grown up with a father figure such as Venom, he could've become the saviour of mankind. Anyways that part should've stayed in the game.

    • @bengough6955
      @bengough6955 11 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah I dont think o breaks the overall game NOT having it, and I now dont believe a huge portion was cut or that the story is hugely incomplete...but Venom and Eli were nice and important story beats I'd have liked more of, and as an epilogue that mission would have been cool

    • @Remix2366
      @Remix2366 11 месяцев назад

      Ahab is the worst survivor ever

  • @mustafashaban
    @mustafashaban Год назад +40

    Liquid got killed by Fox Die because Psycho Mantis was killed prior. Couldnt protect him the same!

    • @phantomsnake7910
      @phantomsnake7910 29 дней назад +2

      That's one hell of a wormhole you just openedd. Love it tho 👌

    • @mustafashaban
      @mustafashaban 29 дней назад +1

      @@phantomsnake7910 very possible. Fun to think about!

  • @Logylia
    @Logylia 3 месяца назад +3

    The most interesting part of this that stands out to me more than anything is the presence/proximity of Oceleot to Liquid during both his youth and adulthood. One would think that during some part of their reunion for the Shadow Moses scheme, they would have perhaps privately discussed the happenings of the phantom pain. That's a conversation I'd love to hear.

  • @noblebarbarian3739
    @noblebarbarian3739 Год назад +16

    I'm so fucking glad you keep finding knew depths to discuss with Metal Gear as a series and especially in regards to MGSV, every video gives me a new reason to love the game, and a new lense through which to see it and I really can't thank you enough.

  • @nucleja
    @nucleja Год назад +20

    absolutely amazing. I dont mind if you branch to other games but the fact you've had this much to say about mgsv im sure has made many many more people interested in this series. please keep going, love you boss.

  • @saintluciaofficial2019
    @saintluciaofficial2019 Год назад +14

    Liquid is probably one of my favorite MG characters along with Ocelot.

  • @badazzmaro
    @badazzmaro 3 месяца назад +2

    Me to Skullface, "You mad bro?"

  • @charliebee5154
    @charliebee5154 Год назад +67

    I couldn't quite put my finger on why I had more and more sympathy for Liquid as the games went on.
    Just like all of the Snakes, his lack of control was what forced him to be two steps behind the Patriots. The same lack of control was what kept him raging forward. Quite the persona.

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC Год назад +7

      I had a similar experience with Ocelot to the point I'd argue Ocelot is the hero of the Metal Gear games, despite not being a protagonist and using less than heroic methods.

    • @taepyeoon8245
      @taepyeoon8245 Год назад

      @@PlebNC So an antihero?

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC Год назад +2

      @@taepyeoon8245 Arguably yeah. I also think the player characters (Snake, Big Boss, Raiden and Venom) are unwittingly villains as in every game they are playable they are used by other villains to accomplish their goals

    • @MamboCat84
      @MamboCat84 Год назад +2

      ​@PlebNC "There is no such thing as an absolute enemy. Human beings can only be enemies in relative terms." :p

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC Год назад +2

      @@MamboCat84 Meanwhile Snake gets puppeted by every antagonist in every game he's in while Ocelot is being a chad hero in every hero he's in while maintaining his cover the whole time.

  • @polishcowboyst
    @polishcowboyst Год назад +6

    Great work! And thanks again for keeping this conversation going. With no new titles in this series likely to emerge, this is now what it looks like for me to keep enjoying the story, characters, and games that I love.

  • @ZachyNY
    @ZachyNY Год назад +19

    it's always a good day when there's a futurasound prod video

  • @politicalscientist8880
    @politicalscientist8880 Год назад +3

    Skull Face does say hes always in the shadows watching snake... now i feel it applies to even the games AFTER TPP

  • @RossOfRoni
    @RossOfRoni Год назад +10

    4:48 The line "I guess somebody wished upon a star, 'cause their savior turned up like stardust, straight outta the blue," is a reference to Sahelanthropus' appearance in Hellbound, from the stars as it were. Do you see the stars?

  • @chipe420
    @chipe420 Год назад +5

    Awesome video, just amazing. MGSV sets up Liquid Snake so perfectly, except for the part where it doesn't because it's unfinished, but that's where you come in!

  • @JimmyJaxJellyStax
    @JimmyJaxJellyStax Год назад +12

    Were there plans to also include Solid possibly too? He would have also likely had long hair but somewhat darker. Some claim he cut and dyed his hair darker in MGS to different from Liquid (not accidentally be mistaken for him, though his American / non-South African accent would be a dead giveaway).

    • @jamessmall8096
      @jamessmall8096 Год назад +4

      That's what I would like to see is where and what was Solid doing at this time period, no way he escaped a child soldier adventure

    • @bengough6955
      @bengough6955 11 месяцев назад

      Inn the pre Shadow Moses briefing videos he has long hair and it looks shaded a bit lighter. In MGS he has short very dark hair but in MGS2 it's a lighter brown.
      In Metal gear and Metal gear 2 isnt it lighter haswell?
      I assumed it was to help the player differentiate

  • @michelealeandriart
    @michelealeandriart Год назад +4

    I'm just halfway through the video, and this is just brilliant! How could I never notice this before
    how many secret and details does this game contains, damn
    I'm so glad that you're back doing videos, Boss.

  • @buffybot635
    @buffybot635 Год назад +12

    Cant stop playing this outstanding game. While the gameplay is already great, the story always gives me melancholic feelings (in a good way). Cool to see up to this day new videos about this masterpiece. 😎

  • @irockdirtyshoes
    @irockdirtyshoes 11 месяцев назад +4

    David on the other side of the world in foster care craving cigarettes because he has the recessive genes 😂 doing regular kid shit

  • @EvilDaren
    @EvilDaren Год назад +7

    Never heard Myler talk about stardust in the audio communication until now, stardust as Ziggy Stardust…aka David Bowie…The Man Who Sold The World

  • @atziluth12
    @atziluth12 11 месяцев назад +7

    Cool video, as always. One thing that always struck my mind is how Sahelanthropus looks advanced if compared to, for example, Metal Gear Rex. It's like if it was chronologically created between MGS1 and MGS2, thus effing up the timeline totally.

    • @ragingfilthycasual
      @ragingfilthycasual 9 месяцев назад

      Maybe it was. DD had portals too, lol. I mean eventually the Diamond Dogs base gets raided and they are uprooted right? So lost tech imho head canon, lol

    • @jenpachi2408
      @jenpachi2408 4 месяца назад

      Well I always took it as sehalanthroous was totally impractical and only worked because of mantis powers it's kind of like how visions of sci-fi tech existed in the 50s but things like star trek tech werent practical and didn't have the power needed to make things work, mantis is the magic "power source" for an otherwise non workable design.

  • @mljesus7743
    @mljesus7743 Год назад +6

    Interesting concepts and explanations. After watching a whole channels worth of videos by now I totally agree with you that MGSV is particularly exceptional in exploring these topics

  • @diamondhands0111
    @diamondhands0111 Год назад +12

    First!! I’m glad you are releasing more videos, Jorin! I hope you’re doing well.

  • @grantbunker1755
    @grantbunker1755 Год назад

    I'm late to all of your work but I am surely amazed with everything I've seen so far and I hope you keep up the great stuff!

  • @technomicah
    @technomicah Год назад +1

    So happy to see a new video today!

  • @BigDaddyWes
    @BigDaddyWes Год назад +2

    Glad to have you back Boss.

  • @JAA_007
    @JAA_007 Год назад +2

    Glad to see you back boss, make us 🙌 👏 proud as you always do!

  • @jesseseymour4011
    @jesseseymour4011 Год назад

    Great work. I love watching your metal gear analysis videos.

  • @rustymiller9555
    @rustymiller9555 Год назад +2

    You kept us waiting, Boss.

  • @helloimsamson4181
    @helloimsamson4181 Год назад +2

    Great work as always. Thank you.

  • @kimbah
    @kimbah Год назад +4

    Thank you, excellent timing with this video as I just rewatched your other skullface videos.
    Bravo, great work

  • @aronissleeping
    @aronissleeping Год назад +1

    thanks for another banger video dude! I check every morning for an upload!

  • @alfredolopez9642
    @alfredolopez9642 Год назад +18

    Jorin, your video essays are always full of insights and details that only make me love the Metal Gear series that much more, even though it has always been my favourite video game saga ever since I played MGS for the first time all those years ago. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @raccoonstarsmember
    @raccoonstarsmember Год назад

    Have always loved your narrations. Keep it up forever.

  • @simonmarie83
    @simonmarie83 7 месяцев назад

    This is genuinely brilliant. Even if there are some things that might be pure speculation it's a fantastic analysis of the messy mountain of references Kojima dumps on us. Well done.

  • @hands_media
    @hands_media Год назад

    Glad you're back. You keep posting and I'll keep watching, BROTHER.

  • @FearfulEntertainment
    @FearfulEntertainment Год назад +11

    Seeing this game again breaks my heart on how great it couldve turned out....

  • @jamesgaines6468
    @jamesgaines6468 Год назад +5

    I remember first playing this and hating that they changed snakes voice because i was like he doesn't even sound like snake. Then by the end i realized that it wasn't even the snake or big boss i thought i was the whole time and it made so much sense haha. Especially since they kept everyone else's voice actor the same or at least something that sounded like their younger version.

    • @throbbingfellow1136
      @throbbingfellow1136 11 месяцев назад +2

      Are you forgetting that the real Big Boss was also voiced by Keifer Sutherland in Ground Zeroes and the end of TPP?

  • @TheDarpaChief
    @TheDarpaChief Год назад +6

    Our raw materials are vintage, brother 💪

  • @170KX
    @170KX Год назад +1

    Awesome and more to come until next time Boss

  • @VictorLecoeur
    @VictorLecoeur Год назад

    Love your work. Thank you !

  • @sweetvillasis11
    @sweetvillasis11 Год назад +6

    Oh my goodness I thought I finished this game! Apparently not, I remember sneaking into the castle at the end and the metal gear coming back to mother base then I thought it was game over and it was just the multiplayer mode left 😅 whole bunch of cutscenes I’ve never seen, thanks, pretty much watched all your MGS vids! Amazing.

    • @herbdelarge8784
      @herbdelarge8784 Год назад +5

      There's a bunch of cut content cos MGSV was rushed and only about 70% finished when it got released, also why Kojima got mad and left. Konami were too money hungry.

    • @sweetvillasis11
      @sweetvillasis11 Год назад

      I played it on steam on pc, maybe the console versions had more content? I wonder if mods might’ve messed up my game experience?

    • @theta_clips
      @theta_clips 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@herbdelarge8784 Kojima blew threw MGSV's budget on a lot of unnecessary additions, and that's why Konami forced him to release it early.

  • @LiminalSpaces777
    @LiminalSpaces777 Год назад +4

    Liquid Deserves his own game:
    Metal Gear Liquid

    • @MichaelReed609
      @MichaelReed609 Год назад +2

      I think everyone forgets, Ocelot faked hypnosis in MGS2 so why wouldn’t he here? I feel like MGSV was the first game to omit “the truth” about Ocelot’s role in post credits. I’d also love to see a game that shows more about Liquid Snake and Ocelot. Especially this union of two characters-how and why Ocelot chose to fake possession. Liquids SAS and FOXHOUND days are still widely a mystery.

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged Год назад +9

    I will die on the hill that the possession we see on the Tanker and perhaps even on Arsenal Gear WAS genuine. Otherwise, why would Ocelot replace the grafted arm with a prosthetic between 2 and 4? He figured the guise of Liquid could actually be used to his advantage, but only if Ocelot had control, thus he ditched the arm and switched to hypnotherapy.

    • @homelessgenie3366
      @homelessgenie3366 Год назад

      I agree it was genuine until Kojima decided hypnotherapy was more convenient.

    • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
      @2yoyoyo1Unplugged Год назад +1

      @@homelessgenie3366 If you REALLY knew your lore you'd know that both explanations are true, and that your cynical take on Kojima seems to come from a place of bad faith. I am not speaking theory. The Tanker possession is backed up by OFFICIAL sources, and there is no evidence to suggest that specifically was ever retconned, whereas there IS evidence that the arm was replaced post 2 and it IS confirmed that he used hypnotherapy to maintain the guise.

  • @ricardovelasco1572
    @ricardovelasco1572 2 месяца назад

    I didn't knew this scene existed. Poor Liquid 😢 he was sweet in his own way, his ideals were shaped by trauma

  • @heartbeatsdrum
    @heartbeatsdrum Год назад +2

    The man who made me finally complete 5 and then re-play 1, 2, and 3. Welcome back, Boss.

  • @Rycerz49
    @Rycerz49 11 месяцев назад +2

    With the announcement of the snake eater remake, I’ve become obsessed all over again with the mgs saga.
    I’m hoping that Konami don’t mess this remake up. I’m not convinced they won’t but one can hope.
    Even if they do mess it up we’ll always have the original vision of snake eater. A brilliant game.

  • @Mitsurugi2424
    @Mitsurugi2424 11 месяцев назад +2

    I really liked Kiefer Sutherland portrayal of snake in this game. I'm not saying Hayter wasn't great, so relax. I just think Sutherland did a really good job and made it memorable.

  • @AS-lv5fw
    @AS-lv5fw Год назад +2

    I have a question for you. In order to make these analysis, what did you study and for how long? I'm talking about references from philosophy, politics, books, etc. I wish to be able to make this type of analysis for myself with other types of media. But I have no idea where to start. Maybe sharing your creative process is not something you wish to do, but it would be highly appreciated. Amazing video btw 👍🏻

  • @blakejuttner5741
    @blakejuttner5741 2 месяца назад +1

    Without that removed scene at the end, the canon ending makes zero sense. What we got did not show what happened to Eli/Liquid and Sahelanthropus at all. I hate that we did not get a complete game, yet people claim it is complete. LOL

  • @forestcampbell8962
    @forestcampbell8962 Год назад +1

    Love the NIN lyrics at the beginning👍

  • @AntiBellum
    @AntiBellum Год назад +1

    This is something I’ve been uneducated about for a long time, excited to gain some understanding

  • @the5th2000
    @the5th2000 Год назад

    These are great fun, keep em coming. Have you read House of Leaves?

  • @dariuswashington4949
    @dariuswashington4949 Год назад

    To simply put it, you sir are amazing at what you do!!!

  • @IOUAK9
    @IOUAK9 Год назад

    Bro. That NIN song is awesome, nice taste, and eggcellent video!

  • @Leeeeeeeeeem
    @Leeeeeeeeeem Год назад +2

    Are we ever going to get a video explaining your theory about what the iDroid "really is"? I don't remember what video you initially mentioned it in but it's been nagging at my mind ever since

  • @deepwater1925
    @deepwater1925 Год назад +3

    Been waiting

  • @swaswag75042
    @swaswag75042 Год назад +2

    We should get a liquid game that takes place during the time he was trained by the boss

  • @arahmis
    @arahmis 10 месяцев назад +1

    Just being a fan but,
    What if Kojima got the rights to MGS & made a Metal Gear 1&2 Remake, connecting all the threads from V-1? I would love to see how the loose story threads from V connect w all those Codec calls in Shadow Moses

  • @o8thnaspliff
    @o8thnaspliff 10 месяцев назад

    MGS is my favorite video game series of all the time not because of the amazing gameplay but from the characters the story it’s so awesome.

  • @MerryOlSoulGigglesmith
    @MerryOlSoulGigglesmith Год назад +9

    You said whiteness however Scottish people were punished by the English if they spoke Gaelic instead of English. Whiteness and Angloness are different. A white Russian isn't the same as a white Frenchman who isn't the same as a white Irishman.

  • @NeonSupernovaUPW
    @NeonSupernovaUPW 7 месяцев назад

    That final mission really should have been included. It’s honestly so good!

  • @zulfikarfilandra
    @zulfikarfilandra Год назад +2

    we missed you Jorin!

  • @thatsleepytitan769
    @thatsleepytitan769 Год назад +2

    Hell yea, already watching.

  • @Adam-qz7sl
    @Adam-qz7sl 11 месяцев назад

    Isn't that "copy of a copy" quote from fight club? And didn't that come out in like 1999?

  • @nou3796
    @nou3796 Год назад +1

    welcome back.. Boss

  • @alexalfa892
    @alexalfa892 Год назад

    Another great video.

  • @PlebNC
    @PlebNC Год назад +1

    Such a lust for video essays! WHOOOOO?!

  • @hernerwerzog654
    @hernerwerzog654 Год назад

    Good stuff!

  • @corpseweed
    @corpseweed Год назад +3

    Hesitation Marks is a fantastic album, off to a great start here, Boss.

  • @Demigod_3scrub
    @Demigod_3scrub Год назад +1

    Didn't know your were a Reznor Fan too!! Nice

  • @djbeema
    @djbeema Год назад +1

    Sometimes I think about how I really hope Kojima gets to watch some of your videos. Probably be blowing his mind with the ideas and analysis you're extracting from his games 😂

  • @eL_Tee__
    @eL_Tee__ Год назад

    This is class. Thank you.

  • @hbsvictor
    @hbsvictor Год назад +2

    If there's something I don't like about mgsv is that psycho mantis kid that's basically a god of revenge

    • @jamessmall8096
      @jamessmall8096 Год назад +1

      I mean it's not that far of a stretch I mean Mantis speaks of his overpowered younger years back in MGS

    • @hbsvictor
      @hbsvictor Год назад

      @@jamessmall8096 Yeah but he always shows up at the most convenient moments possible

  • @jasonmiller2359
    @jasonmiller2359 Год назад

    I thought Eli was a young Raiden when he was a child soldier under Solidus. I still haven't gotten 100% on the title screen where he's sitting on the helicopter

  • @threadschanged4252
    @threadschanged4252 Год назад +1

    Hell yeah! new metal gear video

  • @marciorodrigo6863
    @marciorodrigo6863 Год назад +1

    Thank you Boss!

  • @everettw
    @everettw Год назад

    very good video!

  • @micahshellhamer3794
    @micahshellhamer3794 10 месяцев назад

    Funny a reference from NIN that's referencing Fight Club.

  • @arco-iris3825
    @arco-iris3825 Год назад +1

    New Jorin Lee Futurasound Productions out!!🎉🎉

  • @K5ingh007
    @K5ingh007 11 месяцев назад

    Great breakdown

  • @JoshuaElijahC
    @JoshuaElijahC Год назад +1

    Kept us waiting, huh?

  • @Nixdigo
    @Nixdigo Год назад +2

    I really like your videos but always am left with this sort of wanting when you end it and I finally figured out what it is. You cover everything that needs to be covered but you rarely go as in depth as I want.

  • @MetalGear_Markie
    @MetalGear_Markie Год назад +3

    Yes thank you jorin for another perfect video 👍😎🤙🏻

  • @strudlesallday1598
    @strudlesallday1598 Год назад +3

    YES! MORE MGS!

  • @itzdavb3604
    @itzdavb3604 Год назад +1

    it's impresive how many things aren't discovered, even tho it's been 8 years since the game launched lol

  • @Glassandcandy
    @Glassandcandy 4 месяца назад

    Mantis is supposed to have some sort of visual cue to identify who's controlling him right? Like he has the horn for Venom, the Beret for Eli, the fire for Volgin, etc.. Why doesn't he have some visual cue for the few seconds he's controlled by Shabani? Someone should mod the game so he does. I propose that for that cutscene alone he appears with an afro, just like Shabani has. For lore purposes of course.

  • @bengough6955
    @bengough6955 11 месяцев назад

    A liquid snake game becoming a rising member of Foxhound would be cool, i'd also have loved a Gray Fox game

  • @Fallc0mp
    @Fallc0mp Год назад +2

    We want, we need more Boss!

  • @nouchdaniro
    @nouchdaniro 11 месяцев назад

    this was very well done
    liquid & solidus are 2 characters i would love some expansion on. even if its not a game centered around them i’ll settle for graphic novels or some dope 20min cutscenes the creators are good for lol