Is MGS5 Actually Three Games?

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  • @MidlifeCrisisJoe
    @MidlifeCrisisJoe 4 года назад +409

    If the point was that we were supposed to make our own part 3 for MGSV, then here's what I wanted to see: A final level playing as Venom in Outer Heaven as everything is breaking down. Radio chatter as guards go missing. You walking into the room you know is the only escape from the base after setting of a self destruct sequence. Then you're confronted by an unbeatable final boss: Solid Snake.

    • @brotbrotsen1100
      @brotbrotsen1100 3 года назад +49

      That would be so god damn epic

    • @thelocal-spider9623
      @thelocal-spider9623 2 года назад +33

      @@brotbrotsen1100 And a very satisfying ending to the series

    • @tonygrencho7121
      @tonygrencho7121 2 года назад +10

      Though this sounds cool it would be a odd fi al boos considering that in the metal gear universe solid snake beats venom, so chronologically you beating solid snake would break the timeliness. A final boss is meant to test you and for you to ultimately beat.

    • @Crudecoronet
      @Crudecoronet 2 года назад +61

      @@tonygrencho7121 thats why he said unbeatable

    • @RobPaulson88
      @RobPaulson88 2 года назад +25

      @@tonygrencho7121 an unbeatable final boss would’ve been poetic, since Solid Snake is arguably a (somewhat dated lol) timeless character / hero, it would kind of show how time itself is inevitable and all things must come to an end sort of ending. Like “hey guys, it’s over, I’m gonna let you fight Solid Snake as a personal goodbye”

  • @hermanmelville3871
    @hermanmelville3871 4 года назад +875

    The one thing that always depressed me was (and pardon my bias here) the lack of his opportunity to fulfill the "Moby Dick" metaphor he was building in MGSV.

    • @FuturasoundProductions
      @FuturasoundProductions  4 года назад +238

      Herman Melville my stars, it’s the legendary wordsmith himself! Well Mr Melville, as I’m sure you know, some dismiss even your own leviathan of literature as merely a schoolboy’s lark about fishing. Just as there’s more than meets the surface in your wide ocean of words, it could be there’s more of your magnum opus in MGSV than many might realize. Perhaps a video on the subject I shall make...though I daresay it’s about as easy to complete a taxonomy of whales than one of this whale of a tale!

    • @MGrey-qb5xz
      @MGrey-qb5xz 4 года назад +95

      i think miller was the traitor who was framing Huey,not that Huey is himself innocent but a lot of his plot in motherbase seems to indicate there was gonna be a reveal about miller still working with cipher cause he was pissed about venom snake not being the real big boss.So much under utilized plot points just discarded due to konami's greed

    • @willvermillion1025
      @willvermillion1025 4 года назад +14

      M.Grey that makes the most sense down the line In The story so I’d agree with that.

    • @MGrey-qb5xz
      @MGrey-qb5xz 4 года назад +28

      @@willvermillion1025 you could also hear miller's *give her the shot already* in the ground zero's cassette tapes as well,not to mention this video with the reddit community talking about it www.reddit.com/r/NeverBeGameOver/comments/968mkv/ground_zeroes_the_biggest_lie_in_metal_gear/
      both kaz and paz names mean peace while chapter 3 name's was also peace,something tells me taking down liquid was just the other big part of the third chapter.Maybe adult chico would have returned or boss would have actually killed children thus creating the foxhound crew of mgs 1.

    • @sadpayazo7372
      @sadpayazo7372 4 года назад +5

      yeah. i thought it was going to be part of the narrative, but no. I guess it was ramdom shiet!

  • @Memnoch_the_Devil
    @Memnoch_the_Devil 4 года назад +275

    "Metal gear singlehandedly made video games a better medium" ...you're goddamn right

    • @evanabbott2737
      @evanabbott2737 3 года назад +4

      Yes, sir! I hope we get a new metal gear for the new consoles....they already brought back left 4 dead, just bring back metal gear too!🙏😁

    • @Bori.1776
      @Bori.1776 3 года назад +10

      @@evanabbott2737 Sometimes it’s better to let a franchise die gracefully than to milk it to death. I rather not have anymore metal gear to preserve its legacy

    • @Shittyrapper
      @Shittyrapper 3 года назад +9

      @@Bori.1776 I agree but a remaster being led by the few people that appreciate kojima’s legacy at Konami would be cool.

    • @Bori.1776
      @Bori.1776 3 года назад +3

      @@Shittyrapper Yeah, but it would be idea if it wasn’t under konamis supervision since they would likely add extra bullshit to piss people off

    • @MoldyMojoMonkey
      @MoldyMojoMonkey 3 года назад +7

      I'd take a remake of each game in succession at this point. I miss the MGS universe so much.
      For me, no other game series can fill the void left by it's absence.

  • @Undone545
    @Undone545 4 года назад +105

    To me MGSV was meant to be the clear transition from "tactical stealth espionage" to for lack of a better term "MGS villain simulator". The opening chapters have you go in "naked" in traditional mgs affair but soon you have a giant base. A metal gear. An army. A battle gear for field deployment. Ocelot. Quiet. Add in chicos concept design and you have 3/4 of a quirky miniboss squad. Maybe add in frank jaeger for good measure. This should have culminated in part 3 being the assault on zanzibar land. Rather than sneaking missions you deploy the full spectrum of your soldiers to claim the land that will be outer heaven for "metal gear" to show how far snake (and by extention the nature of the game have come)

    • @brenito2092
      @brenito2092 Год назад +8

      Maybe if venom snake wans't vastly more heroic than big boss after peace walker

    • @DedicatedSpirit8
      @DedicatedSpirit8 Год назад +9

      You sir...
      Have it right.
      That would've been a fantastic ending even as a concept.

  • @TheSwordfish009
    @TheSwordfish009 4 года назад +333

    Peacewalker definitely was a prototype for MGSV

    • @romulocasas4906
      @romulocasas4906 4 года назад +48

      i always thought of Peace Walker as a more "arcade" style MGS that included elements of all games while pointing towards a new direction

    • @Shittyrapper
      @Shittyrapper 3 года назад +15

      Mgs peace walker all though I loved it was basically mgs3 lite, Stealth gameplay wise.

    • @TRBG
      @TRBG 3 года назад +18

      well MGS pw was supposed to be MGS5 until they changed it lol

    • @lamario
      @lamario Месяц назад +1

      I believe they were almost the same game a generation apart. They are the only games in the series that were direct sequels to each other (in that the story directly continued from game to game with almost no time jump-if you include Ground Zeros).
      I believe Kojima tried to put everything he couldn't get into PW into the GZ, which heavily influenced TPP. People call GZ a demo of TPP, I believe more accurately, it's the sequel to PW and the inspiration for TPP.

  • @salad9166
    @salad9166 4 года назад +452

    Kojima really said “Fine I’ll do it myself” and made Peace Walker a masterpiece

    • @DANEMAN5
      @DANEMAN5 4 года назад +8

      Sounds like me and my lab group haha.

    • @saintsugoi
      @saintsugoi 4 года назад +5

      hard fucking agree on that one

    • @RobertEdwinHouse9
      @RobertEdwinHouse9 3 года назад +31

      How is the game a masterpiece with those horrific boss fights

    • @Manx123
      @Manx123 3 года назад +9

      lmao, bullshit. Peace Walker was trash.

    • @evanabbott2737
      @evanabbott2737 3 года назад +2

      @@Manx123 aw!🤔

  • @Felixthecatz
    @Felixthecatz 4 года назад +1227

    mgsv is actually just 3/4 game

    • @paulghencea9037
      @paulghencea9037 4 года назад +88

      The Phantom Pain is a third of what it should be. But MgsV as a whole Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes And The phantom pain. Idk if you can't say they are three games you can say that they are at least 2 and a half

    • @Felixthecatz
      @Felixthecatz 4 года назад +57

      @@paulghencea9037 out of context from this video
      "Fan outrage stems from The Collector's Edition bonus disc which features a 20 minute video of Mission 51: Kingdom of the Flies, built from incomplete cut-scenes and storyboards, that didn't make the playable game. It shows where Eli took Metal Gear robot Sahelanthropus and fills in a little more of his story, plus that of the Third Son (who is almost certainly Psycho Mantis). It culminates in a massive boss fight that many feel would be a better conclusion than Mission 46: The Man Who Sold The World. Fans claim to have found a title card for the game's third act, called 'Peace', plus image files that reference The Boss from MGS3." ~Gamesradar

    • @AntzolY111
      @AntzolY111 4 года назад +17

      pw miles better than V

    • @paulghencea9037
      @paulghencea9037 4 года назад +7

      @@Felixthecatz Yes I know about all that.(thank you for taking the Time to explain btw)And i agree Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is Incomplete
      However Metal Gear Solid Five would be The Phantom Pain, Ground Zeroes And Peace Walker.

    • @trtsds8901
      @trtsds8901 4 года назад +15

      Guys, have you seen that Sony is trying to buy Metal Gear? Im so happy to know it

  • @Flynn178
    @Flynn178 4 года назад +98

    Special Unit Operation “Walk-Man”
    Wolf Man, A Beautiful and Deadly Sharpshooter
    Wide Man, Giant and Shaman.
    Wax Man, Master of Disguise
    And Walk-Man, the man with the same codename as you

    • @AirKangLocker
      @AirKangLocker 3 года назад +8

      Les Hommes terrible: Walk man, Run man and Skip man

    • @GOLDHAJIKVONGOLA
      @GOLDHAJIKVONGOLA 3 года назад +4

      So thats Fatman original unit

    • @SammEater
      @SammEater 2 года назад

      But no one can defeat AirMan, oh no... wrong franchise.

  • @TheDrewker
    @TheDrewker 4 года назад +129

    I never would have played Peace Walker if they didn't put it in the HD collection. But they did, so I was able to play it on XBOX360... and I was astounded at how good it was. One of the most pleasant surprises in my gaming career.

    • @vault1021
      @vault1021 3 года назад +7

      You got it with the collection ?? I bought the collection in the Xbox store but they split 2 and 3 and peacewalker into 2 espérate games 😞

    • @TheDrewker
      @TheDrewker 3 года назад +14

      @@vault1021 Ahhh yeah I bought a hard copy. That's lame they split it up. I ended up giving that copy to a friend's kid, bought it again for PS3 recently.

    • @Shittyrapper
      @Shittyrapper 3 года назад +2

      I think peace walkers stealth is equal to mgs2’s probably better and worse in certain ways.

    • @foxhoundbridges4851
      @foxhoundbridges4851 3 года назад +7

      gaming career?

    • @foxhoundbridges4851
      @foxhoundbridges4851 3 года назад +3

      @@Shittyrapper so is it equal or better or worse?

  • @Gamefreak2998
    @Gamefreak2998 4 года назад +292

    Honestly I think there's a lot of mistakes within the development of MGSV, having Chico unceremoniously offed when it felt as though there was serious setup for the character to find the peace he sought (and within the art books) was an injustice to the character and the games.

    • @drdiabetes7469
      @drdiabetes7469 4 года назад +27

      Thats why i like the fan theory of chico actually being quiet, its a hell of a good character development. Wish it wouldve turned out that way, cause the whole "you will feel bad for your words and deeds" bullshit we actually got kinda sucked.

    • @fredericktorres1325
      @fredericktorres1325 4 года назад +13

      @@drdiabetes7469 I might not have been the only guy to come up with this idea, but I jokingly stated this to make fun of OCELOT IS MILLER theorists one day and it led to the meme image that popularized it in the same thread. Pushing this theory before release was my favorite part of MGSV, and its really sad thats a more well written story then what we received. I'm sure it reached Kojima somehow.

    • @FuturasoundProductions
      @FuturasoundProductions  4 года назад +21

      @@drdiabetes7469 heh heh oh i dunno... stay tuned for a video in the near future on this very subject

    • @idontwant2beasoldiermama241
      @idontwant2beasoldiermama241 4 года назад +33

      @@drdiabetes7469
      What the actual fuck, that would be ridiculous.
      What would actually be awesome, is Chico being Frank Jaeger

    • @camscrappychannel2970
      @camscrappychannel2970 4 года назад +43

      @@idontwant2beasoldiermama241 What would be awesome would be if chico wasn't cut from the game and we got that kickass cut design for him as an adult with Paz's raincoat from the openning of PW.

  • @WednesdayMan
    @WednesdayMan 4 года назад +423

    I disagree with Portable Ops being a side show, without portable Ops, Snake running a Military group of his own seems to make no sense as you remove portable ops, the development of snake becoming a leader is gone, it goes from Snake being a usual 1 man solo OSP operation going to do an important mission to get some dude out (finishing his missions) and then after leaving, Snake instantly became a leader? with portable Ops it shows Snake learning how to be a leader, and ultimately it ties into Peacewalker anyway with the "crap" back in san hieronymo

    • @FuturasoundProductions
      @FuturasoundProductions  4 года назад +72

      TheKHfan358over3d you make a great point! I discounted PO too soon perhaps. I think it’s because I never got to actually play it back in the day on PSP, only on an emulator. I also know it’s questionable whether the specifics of the plot are canon. I’ll give it another shot though, thanks for the comment!

    • @WednesdayMan
      @WednesdayMan 4 года назад +21

      @@FuturasoundProductions kojima states that most of it is canon except for retcons made and side missions

    • @FuturasoundProductions
      @FuturasoundProductions  4 года назад +24

      @@WednesdayMan Really? I thought he said that it was generally canon, but not canon in terms of its specifics. "Some of the details are a bit off. Some of the small details are not part of the main timeline of the games. I separate games where I was a producer and a [true] Hideo Kojima game." Either way though, I'll definitely check it out a little closer thanks to you. ruclips.net/video/5AoSmr6PijU/видео.html

    • @zangetsu1614
      @zangetsu1614 4 года назад +9

      Pretty sure Kojima was mostly referring to the stuff that directly messed up with what later games told, like ocelot and eva's secret appearance in MPO and the way they were unlocked, they were very ambiguous in that all the info and details in the way you unlock them were just easter eggs, like teliko's recruitment, or a "secret plot info" you uncovered, which were later proved wrong by what we learned from mgs4 and on.
      Aside of that, the game feeds us a lot of info, and the changes Snake went through right after the Boss sacrifice, and how even after gaining the title of Big Boss the governement didn't doubt a sec to use him as a scapegoat too, just like they did with The Boss.
      And how Gene was almost right in the long run.

    • @frankjeager9043
      @frankjeager9043 4 года назад +1

      Adore that game i do

  • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
    @2yoyoyo1Unplugged 4 года назад +97

    This essay just perfectly lays out why I love mgsv. It’s so nuanced, so easy to write off as shitty because its depth is not immediately apparent, yet if you devote yourself to thinking and searching and _listening,_ you’ll see that it really is a masterpiece, flawed though it may be.

    • @zoltanz288
      @zoltanz288 4 года назад +6

      It is not nuanced at all. Not in the story and not in gameplay. MGS5 is the worst MGS ever made. And generally a very bad game. Ghost Recon:Wildlands does everything better than MGS 5.

    • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
      @2yoyoyo1Unplugged 4 года назад +30

      Zoltan Z i’m sorry, but that’s your opinion, just as it is mine that the game _is_ deep and nuanced.

    • @TacticsTechniquesandProcedures
      @TacticsTechniquesandProcedures 3 года назад +3

      Perfection doesn’t exist in this world.

    • @WhayYay
      @WhayYay 3 года назад +29

      @@zoltanz288 GHOST RECON LMAO

    • @xboxpenguin8705
      @xboxpenguin8705 3 года назад +2

      ​@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged Hololive and Mgs fan huh? Same

  • @none6316
    @none6316 3 года назад +15

    Those VR missions from mgs1 was the best. The one where you have to pretend to be liquid to catch the guard who ate his pop sickle still cracks me up.

  • @mashable8759
    @mashable8759 4 года назад +60

    Roses are red,
    Blueberries are blue,
    I'm big boss
    And so are you!

    • @sethleoric2598
      @sethleoric2598 3 года назад +5

      "I AM THE NIGHT, I AM VENGIANCE, I AM BIG BOSS"

  • @ArtofLunatik
    @ArtofLunatik 4 года назад +98

    I believe It was Yoji Shinkawa who suggested to Kojima that he should have weapon customization in mgsv

    • @mitpoker7319
      @mitpoker7319 4 года назад +17

      Weapon customization has been around since mgs4, kid.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 4 года назад +3

      there r reason why those game had terraible resell and discount very heavyily

    • @AlpenSkyWatcher
      @AlpenSkyWatcher 4 года назад +6

      scopes
      stock
      Sights
      Underbarrell
      Other accessories
      The base gun
      Mix and match

    • @ArtofLunatik
      @ArtofLunatik 4 года назад +20

      The College Nerd lol kid. Im 36 bruh. Im referring to weapon customization in MGSV. Kojima originally wasnt going to include in that game .

    • @mitpoker7319
      @mitpoker7319 4 года назад +5

      @@ArtofLunatik
      You do realize that kojima wasn't even planning to finish the game. So I'm not surprised that he wasn't planning to put weapon customization in it.
      And in all honesty, if it probably wasn't for the actual devs pestering that talentless hack of kojima to have something to show for the game, mgsv would've probably been alot worse and more empty than it already is.

  • @iExPreZz
    @iExPreZz 4 года назад +24

    I loved every second of the video, great execution.
    I also suggest watching a video called "PT's Hidden Meaning" by the youtuber "TheGreatDebate".
    The video talks about why PT was made, and how it ties up to Kojima/Konami's split and how it might've affected MGSV, highly recommended for all yearning MGS fans out there.

    • @ulcam64
      @ulcam64 4 года назад +3

      That was an excellent vid

  • @tovbyte
    @tovbyte 3 года назад +6

    „So they made the Fox engine. But let’s go back to the crusades...“
    Futura Sound in a nutshell

  • @SolarScion
    @SolarScion 4 года назад +33

    I've put a lot of thought into these games, but I have to admit that your videos bring facts and perspectives that I was unaware of and had never considered. Definite sub.

  • @Mrsabillon
    @Mrsabillon 4 года назад +50

    I gotta say you explained everything with detail you got yourself a new follower

  • @therewillbebrad
    @therewillbebrad 4 года назад +33

    Great work man. Look forward to future work.
    I also love your explanation of the ruse, people consider nbgo and the ruse cruise to be the ramblings of psycopaths but it was clearly what Kojima intended. The fans were supposed to finish the story. Forced to deal with our own phantom pain.

  • @Tamacat388
    @Tamacat388 4 года назад +168

    You also could've pointed how how Peace Walker and Phantom Pain were both Tactical Espionage Operations games in contrast to 1-4 being Tactical Espionage Action. Subtling showing how they were own games seperate from what 1-4 were trying to be.
    Edit: Really great video btw. I feel kinda bad that the comment is just a nitpick. This is a really unique analysis of these games.

    • @FuturasoundProductions
      @FuturasoundProductions  4 года назад +17

      Great point!

    • @meowdy5365
      @meowdy5365 4 года назад +10

      The peace walker incident Made the whole ground zeros and Phantom pain incident without peace walker Kazihura and the boss wouldnt have met + Outer heaven wouldnt have exist

    • @sadpayazo7372
      @sadpayazo7372 4 года назад +2

      el gameplay siempre me gusto, la gestion de la base era la parte esencial de juego

    • @darkmastertaken
      @darkmastertaken 3 года назад +2

      @@meowdy5365 big boss and kazuhira miller already built a private army before paz and that kgb arrived.

    • @meowdy5365
      @meowdy5365 3 года назад +1

      @@darkmastertaken oh yeah military san frontier

  • @ChrisLeeW00
    @ChrisLeeW00 4 года назад +9

    34:42 There were child soldiers in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake as well. Honestly, that's the only criticism I have for your full series, you did a great job.

  • @bennycostello2472
    @bennycostello2472 3 года назад +9

    Kojima: I would like 100 million dollars to fill the plot hole of how u killed big boss twice but hes still alive

    • @JH50166
      @JH50166 3 года назад +3

      Play mgs4

    • @Jws20
      @Jws20 23 дня назад

      @@JH50166you mean V

  • @mchief11789
    @mchief11789 4 года назад +1

    Great work. With the title I thought this would be just another clickbait video with no real content, but man was I wrong. Love the breakdown. I look forward to more of your work

  • @jgt1120
    @jgt1120 Год назад +2

    This makes me want Peace Walker remade in FOX engine

  • @Plebs_
    @Plebs_ 3 года назад

    Amazing to see an original take on this series. Love the work, love the angle, well done man!

  • @stovespiegel
    @stovespiegel 4 года назад +7

    I really don't get how spending so much time on explaining the lighting system is adding to your thesis statement, here. Very muddy script

    • @FuturasoundProductions
      @FuturasoundProductions  4 года назад +5

      Stove Spiegel the video is part of a series that looks at the technical evolution of MGS over the years. The thesis that the last three games are part of a triptych is central, but I also had to explain how they differed as well as how they were linked. The focus was on how the MGS5 idea developed over time. Anyway, thanks for watching!

    • @stovespiegel
      @stovespiegel 4 года назад +5

      @@FuturasoundProductions If that's the case, the title of the video did not clue me into that, and that was probably a bad thing in my case

  • @hermitgreenn
    @hermitgreenn 4 года назад +24

    Peace Walker is the true MGS5. There's a reason why Kojima insisted that Phantom Pain be MGSV.

  • @AndddLegacy
    @AndddLegacy 4 года назад +7

    mgs4 has the best gameplay in the series hands down and i LOVED the hidden control systems

  • @see-sharp
    @see-sharp 4 года назад +2

    Ok i know this is from 2019 but the thing is THERE IS NO Metal Gear 5... It's Metal Gear V. It's not a roman numeral, it's the LETTER V And that's a very fucking important point for the story.

    • @FuturasoundProductions
      @FuturasoundProductions  4 года назад +2

      I'd agree if we were only talking about GZ and TPP! In fact kudos to you for remembering such an important aspect to those games. But since I'm also including PW into this, I went for '5' - ironically for the exact reason you've specified! Anyway, thanks for watching and for being such a good fan.

  • @AP-Design
    @AP-Design 4 года назад +1

    Portable Ops is *technically* a mainline entry in some aspects, since MGS4's narrative briefly references the Portable Ops storyline at certain points.

    • @FuturasoundProductions
      @FuturasoundProductions  4 года назад

      damn, i'm really gonna have to go back and play PO! Thanks to everyone in the comments here, I would have written it off completely otherwise

    • @AP-Design
      @AP-Design 4 года назад

      Futurasound Productions Yeah, I don’t blame anyone who don’t really count this one. After MGS4, Kojima intentionally included only the games he directed whenever he promotes the series as a whole, in game compilations or in metal gear history presentations outside of the games. I think he prefers to market the series through only the stories he wrote. However, he does admit in interviews that PO is part of the main storyline, with exceptions to small details he feels don’t line up.

  • @bloodyassault6250
    @bloodyassault6250 4 года назад +5

    it just sad that MGS5 never got there proper ending and i hope some day sony would convince Konami 2 give them/ partner with them 2 finish or make another MGS game, they currently in talk with them for another Silent Hill game

    • @hrukuive5124
      @hrukuive5124 4 года назад

      I may be mistaken by the Metal Gear franchise is with Konami, so that would take awhile.

  • @hanloncaldwell8571
    @hanloncaldwell8571 4 года назад +3

    Oh wow do I love your videos man, they're all excellent! Keep up the great work and you'll be huge in no time ☺

  • @DiabloRed24
    @DiabloRed24 2 года назад +1

    The Fox engine is probably the greatest engine ever made. Shame that it will never be used again for anything worthwhile

    • @bencarlson4300
      @bencarlson4300 2 года назад +1

      Are they planning on using it for the MGS 3 remake?

  • @calebb7012
    @calebb7012 4 года назад +5

    No one ever talks about portable ops or the acid games.

  • @SOLIDEST
    @SOLIDEST Год назад

    Master class contents, I throughly enjoy every last one of you videos man, keep up the awesome work.
    Although it seems you don't consider MPO as a canon but I really wished you did an essay on that game since story and voice acting wise is on par with the rest if not better imo.
    Plus MPO is the foundation for MPW.

  • @mgmt1215
    @mgmt1215 4 года назад +1

    every mgs video i've seen is amazingly formulated and this video is no exception

  • @prendlala5971
    @prendlala5971 3 года назад +1

    To bad Konami did not let the guy iron out the game to perfection. Still MGSV even in that half finished state its a masterpiece without a second. Hat off to Kojima, keep on keeping on bro.

  • @Alecxace
    @Alecxace 4 года назад +2

    One thing though, you are entirely wrong about Portable ops and to not include what the game did to the series is asinine. The entire motherbase system and recruiting staff game mechanic was created in potable ops (and spun off into portable ops +). Regard;less of how you feel about it, Kojima himself stated that MGSPO is canon (while some details not so much).
    Like a lot of what you do in Peace Walker and Phantom Pain clearly has it's roots in Portable ops, both story and mechanics.

  • @pro-gamer2289
    @pro-gamer2289 3 года назад +2

    They forgot release metal gear 6 where Big Boss will come back to Venom Snake to meet him.

  • @sirzechs0164
    @sirzechs0164 4 года назад +3

    The fox engine is very optimized, but at the same time gives very realistic visuals.

  • @jesserenderos9130
    @jesserenderos9130 Год назад +1

    Hey what song do you have playing at 41:05??

  • @Diicto
    @Diicto 4 года назад +2

    After having played Metal Gear Solid 4 countless times, Metal Gear Solid 5 just feels like a let down. Damn, man.
    I really want to enjoy myself playing the game but it just wasn’t as interesting to me as I really hoped. MGS4, with it’s play on camouflage and pseudo open area (but still linear), just knocked it out of the park and the weapon customization alongside the staple M4 you get from the weapon launderer is just amazing. Not to forget the flashbacks feature and character development. They all grasp your attention and just feel like they’re supposed to be there.
    MGSV’s characters are not interesting, nor are they engaging as the previous game. They’re just “there”.
    The ambiance was ok I guess in MGSV but the music was superb. All in all, Not my favorite ending to my favorite franchise. I almost shed a tear when I first played it because I expected so so so so much more than a Fulton simulator.
    Sorry for the rant I just really love this franchise; and to me, this wasn’t a finale I hoped to get.
    #RemasterMGS4

  • @yersolell654
    @yersolell654 4 года назад +2

    You're your own MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD

  • @prophetascending9021
    @prophetascending9021 4 года назад

    Incredibly well researched and delivered piece of work.

  • @battlefields2mine
    @battlefields2mine 4 года назад +1

    PW : A calm before a storm.
    GZ : The reign of chaos.
    TPP : A vengence within hollow
    And the missing link of TPP and MG1 ?
    The down fall of Outer Heaven which im eager to see.
    Love your essay from the bottom of my heart. Lives on man.

  • @nianddra
    @nianddra 4 года назад +5

    Excellent vid. Have any thoughts on Death Stranding?

    • @FuturasoundProductions
      @FuturasoundProductions  4 года назад +11

      I just did a short video on it, but to save you some time, I love it! I think it's a bold and inventive work that reminds me of longtime Kojima influences like The Great Escape and Planet of the Apes. It's such a fantastic blend of satire, horror, and genuine heart warming humanism. I know a lot of MGS fans were put off by the total genre jump and everything, but Kojima's made sci-fi games all along. MGS arguably is sci-fi: so were Snatcher and Policenauts.
      Last thing I'll say about DS: I need to finish Lunar Knights! They have pretty similar worlds / concepts, what with the realms of Life and Death merging.

    • @FuturasoundProductions
      @FuturasoundProductions  4 года назад +4

      Amazing avatar by the way!

    • @OttoWatt9000
      @OttoWatt9000 4 года назад +1

      Ethan Wright Didn’t think for a second this game was gonna be enjoyed by everyone as it’s different in its slow paced terrain traversal approach. I personally love it a lot but it’s understandable that some others are not gonna so much.‬

  • @ryanrizqullah306
    @ryanrizqullah306 4 года назад +4

    ugh, reading the comment section makes me feel sad. it doesn't matter if mgsv is incomplete or not, the story is great or not. because, it wont matter anymore. with hideo resignation, the mg series is over and it doesn't matter if no one really need mgsv because there's no solid snake in it and it doesn't matter if konami or hideo failed to make the most of the game potential. the sight of people arguing about how this sequel is better than other sequel or prequel is a sad thing. let's just love every game, because probably this is the last time you and the whole world remember the metal gear series. ah, it's truly a pity that it will be the last. truly a pity. i wish i can know the fate of Quiet after mission 45 (if im correct)

    • @alternative915
      @alternative915 4 года назад +1

      But in the end, always remember, Greed, Mobile game with micro-traction, and ambitions is what end this series and hideo "resignation"

    • @bencarlson4300
      @bencarlson4300 2 года назад

      There is always a chance that Kojima will get another shot.

  • @johnnyscifi
    @johnnyscifi 4 года назад +1

    MGSI did too. Its was just greatly expanded upon in mgsiii. Remember the psycho-mantis part? Definitely fucking with the players mind...:)

  • @perfect.stealth
    @perfect.stealth 4 года назад +1

    PW with MGSV graphics would be lovely. Loved PW

  • @cobaingrohlnovo
    @cobaingrohlnovo 2 месяца назад

    That fox engine is so good

  • @mizublackriver7021
    @mizublackriver7021 4 года назад +3

    Amazing video, I gotta say.
    But I not gonna lie, around 17:40 you were talking about technology on MGS and Kojima wanting to be realistic.
    The first time I saw the gadgets of MGSV it threw me off so hard, like, it took me out of the game harder than a Bethesda glitch ever did, what do you mean they had ALL of that tec before the 90's? Where did that tec go? Why is it not present in MGS1?
    But, thank you, I love your take on your videos, instead of rambling and speculations, they are facts with sources.

    • @JagoShogun
      @JagoShogun 4 года назад

      They had a lot of amazing tech before the 90's, it just wasn't available to the public.

    • @mizublackriver7021
      @mizublackriver7021 4 года назад

      @@JagoShogun But nowhere close enough that the player uses in MGSV

  • @kokujinblack77
    @kokujinblack77 4 года назад

    that image at 1:44. I was thinking to myself "why not just go around it?"

  • @Eldwinn
    @Eldwinn 4 года назад +8

    "electronic virtual essay" one of those words is unneccesary.

    • @danteezy945
      @danteezy945 4 года назад

      No u

    • @anonymoususer638
      @anonymoususer638 4 года назад +2

      Just like this entire comment

    • @JINORU_
      @JINORU_ 4 года назад +1

      Virtual does not necessarily mean electronic, nor vice versa.

  • @TheAJohnPerez
    @TheAJohnPerez 4 года назад

    Found you channel and I'm loving it. I'm a lifelong Metal Gear fan and Love the detail you give about the series and the games. Keep up the great work.

  • @Dionach
    @Dionach 4 года назад

    What a relief (3:35), thought you were gonna say the third game was MG Survive 😅

    • @AK907LSD25
      @AK907LSD25 4 года назад

      We do not discuss.... that

  • @jamesbrincefield9879
    @jamesbrincefield9879 3 года назад

    I didn’t tear up during the conclusion, I swear.

  • @AnselmoFormolo
    @AnselmoFormolo 4 года назад +3

    Child soldiers have been a theme of the series since MG1, not MGS2. Great video as always through. Cheers!

  • @christopherrapczynski204
    @christopherrapczynski204 4 года назад +2

    I think the assertion of the "not shadows" being an intentional display of the games reality bending horror elements is insanely naive. It seems far more likely that the engine has more trouble rendering precise, high poly count, physics based objects. It can cast natural shadows on the environment because its lower poly relatively and static. Vehicles are pretty basic shapes and though they move physically they are mostly static. Character models are high poly but bone based, their movement is limited. Hair in games however is rendered much differently, being layered sprites, not really an actual model, and then the whole thing, atleast in these "realistic" games, reacts to the physics with jiggle bones. It would be the hardest thing to render and that's why it doesn't. It doesn't feel like an artistic choice, it feels like a necessary oversight the tech crew couldn't solve. A little weird that they didn't have a low poly invisble static hairpiece that would be used to cast the shadows, but they didn't do that, so I don't know, perhaps part of that final layer of polish that the game never got.

  • @fishy0929
    @fishy0929 Год назад

    In my eyes metal gear solid 5 is peacewalker, ground zeroes, and the phantom pain. Hell peacewalker was originally going to be named metal gear solid 5, but konami dismissed that idea because they didnt want a mainline game on a portable device instead of a console.

  • @SammEater
    @SammEater 2 года назад

    Usually Kojima made MGS games like if they were the last one in the series, but even back then I felt like Peace Walker was leading up to something else (not the OG Metal Gear), guess that one was the first he actually planned for a sequel and probably already had an outline for it in production.

  • @ratontile
    @ratontile 4 года назад +1

    What's the music in 41:24 ? anybody can tell?

  • @jb111082
    @jb111082 2 года назад

    What happened between 32:29 and 32:32? It sounded as though you made an editing error.

  • @redarifin9374
    @redarifin9374 4 года назад +6

    I wish they could continue MGS V with a new director. There's still hella lots of unanswered questions, especially after Quiet's disappearance,the events after Kaz found out about Venom Snake's real identity & how Venom Snake moves into Outer Heaven.

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju Год назад

      A MGS without Kojima is not even MGS

  • @zerowing3213
    @zerowing3213 4 года назад +2

    Am I the only one still wondering what that Sony thing is at 4:06

  • @hairypancake4425
    @hairypancake4425 4 года назад +1

    Love to see MGS 1 & 2 remake

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird 4 года назад +1

      Why not Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake?

  • @mikemcmullen5006
    @mikemcmullen5006 3 года назад

    Phantom pain really needed a build your own metal gear feature. Sally should have been a metal gear vs metal gear fight

  • @massivegat5087
    @massivegat5087 4 года назад +1

    I really need to revisit this game. I loved it on my initial playthrough, putting in well over 200 hours but I felt that same emptiness that many criticize the game for. I still loved it though, the mechanical depth is unmatched, even today. The visuals, the performance, just on a technical level alone it's one of the best of all time imo. I want to replay it for myself and really try to dig even deeper. See if I can find out if the game is truly finished, if the sparse conveyance of the story was actually worth it or not. Maybe it's a misunderstood masterpiece? I'd certainly like to believe so, but it could also just be simply unfinished. Maybe that was the point. I feel I'll never truly know.

  • @BackwardSabotage
    @BackwardSabotage 4 года назад +1

    Seriously underrated channel

  • @nolovelost3981
    @nolovelost3981 4 года назад

    A channel were simple opinions and theories and un answered questions about the metal gear franchise can be up to 2 hours long? Are you kidding me?
    Sign me up!!!!! Im in!! Love this channel!

  • @jamesrocks19
    @jamesrocks19 4 года назад +1

    Dude, this is deep. I love it

  • @steelshepherd6843
    @steelshepherd6843 Год назад

    ...but...why did Sutherland voice Snake in Ground Zeroes...?

  • @dsmvfl363
    @dsmvfl363 4 года назад +8

    Mgs peacewalker is one of the greatest games of all time

  • @Rihcterwilker
    @Rihcterwilker 4 года назад +12

    I just wish that David Hayter were still the voice of Snake in V. For all i care, he now should be called Silent Snake, because it is like Kiefer says 5 lines in important cutscenes and goes silent the rest of the game...

    • @Zay_WVTTZ
      @Zay_WVTTZ 4 года назад +3

      Richter WLK kiefer should have gotten more lines the fact that he sounds different could have tied into the story

    • @simonr7097
      @simonr7097 4 года назад +5

      @@Zay_WVTTZ Indeed the story has a very good reason to explain why Venom Snake doesn't sound like Big Boss (except for the fact that BB was voiced by Kiefer Sutherland in Ground Zeroes).

    • @Zay_WVTTZ
      @Zay_WVTTZ 4 года назад +1

      Simon R i forgot about that if that’s the case then they should have just gave him more lines there’s so many moments where it would actually make sense for venom to talk

    • @BagzAndPresident
      @BagzAndPresident 4 года назад +1

      BECAUSE IT ISNT BIG BOSS IN MGS V IT IS A BODY DOUBLE

  • @luizferrarezzi
    @luizferrarezzi 4 года назад +1

    metal gear is done and everything but would be cool if they ported peace walker to consoles and pc

  • @luproducts4455
    @luproducts4455 3 года назад

    I recommend checking out Lizard Milk and Company Records

  • @moonlander9012
    @moonlander9012 3 года назад

    Your content is great, but why so many ads?

  • @felipefernandesmir7394
    @felipefernandesmir7394 4 года назад

    What is the name of the song that play in the end?

  • @darksystema
    @darksystema 4 года назад +1

    Chapter 3 where is that?

  • @eggyolkeo6422
    @eggyolkeo6422 4 года назад

    Keep doing mgs videos, you earned my sub

  • @pepperoniunicorn8641
    @pepperoniunicorn8641 4 года назад +1

    Hideo Kojima is a true visionary but also a shocking megalomaniac, 2 possible outcomes I'd like to see happen, 1) Kojima under contract comes back and completes MGSV or 2) Rescue Tomokazu Fukushima from Kojima's basement and have him finish the game. Either of these options could create an MGSVI there after.
    Since Konami is almost out of home console game business there is still a minor chance something could happen, they have an IP that is a known money maker, Kojima Productions could continue under license with a big financial backing from Sony, I am almost sure this has at the very least been tossed around in passing conversation at Sony Interactive Entertainment, the lure of profit is sometimes too good to be quashed by pride.

  • @WarDogMadness
    @WarDogMadness 4 года назад +3

    the acid games were great would make a good spin off series.

  • @Onyx1987
    @Onyx1987 3 года назад

    9:32 Johnny.
    We need to talk about why you're sitting RIGHT UP ON the dude behind you. And don't tell me HE decided to scoot up, no, I'm positive the fucker wearing shades INSIDE is to blame for this.

  • @Demigod_3scrub
    @Demigod_3scrub 4 года назад

    Great Video!

  • @wilfredwayne7139
    @wilfredwayne7139 Год назад

    Venom snake is my favourite he's the good guy.

  • @PhilosophersLegacy83
    @PhilosophersLegacy83 2 года назад

    Can you do a virtual essay on portable ops? Or include its events cause they are canon.

  • @patrykzukowski7471
    @patrykzukowski7471 4 года назад

    Hey, firstly: your videos are incredible. Like, you must be the best MGS-tuber out there. But I have a question: what is the base upon which you make all those observations? Or are are you playing with one of MGSV's themes, i.e. that there are no facts, only interpretations?

  • @VideoRawDog
    @VideoRawDog 4 года назад +21

    Ok MgsV looked great and the gameplay was awesome, but to be honest the story was lacking, the protagonist was mute, the antagonist went from a real monster in ground zeros to forgettable masked goon in mgsV, the side ops were boring, a chapter is almost only harder version of past missions. Is sad that Kojima expend so much time in the technical aspects of the game but left behind everything that make a kojima game different from the rest. MGS V should have been a bigger and better Peace Walker in the end the psp game is a much better MGS

    • @MGrey-qb5xz
      @MGrey-qb5xz 4 года назад +2

      i say the whole chapter 1 is a full game considering the shit that happens in the game,but yes.Skull face's death was just bum rushed and chapter 2 was a cluster fuck with only one good moment.I don't know what konami's problem was with time and money,kojima literally made the best game engine for them and they still weren't satisfied

    • @diegobrando6742
      @diegobrando6742 4 года назад

      Yeah the story almost seems like a bunch of Vignettes. Not very cohesive and things are thrown in without much explanation very late into the story. Also for every mission with a semblance of story their were 4-5 that ( while fun) do nothing to further the plot in a meaningful way.

    • @TheHaddonfieldRegistry
      @TheHaddonfieldRegistry 4 года назад

      It's okay to be wrong

  • @nocultist7050
    @nocultist7050 4 года назад +1

    Emmm... If you shoot tranq in their face you never have to change how you play. It works in all games that have those.

  • @n_worder
    @n_worder 4 года назад

    Never thought FOB stuff was part of the narrative

  • @Silvest3r
    @Silvest3r 3 года назад

    Song at 20:37?

  • @rhittcasili204
    @rhittcasili204 4 года назад

    25:34 Wait for it... wait for it...

  • @CoolSmoovie
    @CoolSmoovie 2 года назад

    I really don’t get why people suck of Kojima. I’ll admit the dude has pretty unique ideas, but the nigga would literally be nothing without his team. I wish more people would give his amazing team the credit and recognition they deserve. Can’t imagine how annoying it would be if I saw my boss take credit for all my hard programming or graphics work.

  • @sandeepn94
    @sandeepn94 4 года назад +2

    Constant "quote/end quote" is extremely distracting. If you're quoting, consider citing the source on the screen in text and do away with saying "quote/end quote" entirely, which Is also a lot of times inconsistent (saying quote but then ending the quote without saying end quote)

  • @SnowTremors
    @SnowTremors 4 года назад

    What is the music at 41:25 from?

  • @AnANas00-x3p
    @AnANas00-x3p 4 года назад +4

    There's no MGS V, last MGS game was MGS 4.

  • @kraziejackson5392
    @kraziejackson5392 4 года назад

    I want to go back and play them all... but I dont have my ps3 with the collection.

  • @LEXxTALIONS7913
    @LEXxTALIONS7913 4 года назад +2

    I love all MGS and i know that some guys going to criticize my comment but I'm 41 years old and I'm fan "player"since the 1° MGS.... but MGS V is the best hands down "the history is debatable" but the gameplay is awesome and i platinum the game 3 times whit 3 different users names!!!

    • @LEXxTALIONS7913
      @LEXxTALIONS7913 4 года назад

      @@ethanwright752 no doubt my friend. 👍

  • @Apoc_Bone_Daddy
    @Apoc_Bone_Daddy 4 года назад

    Man I fuggin miss my PSP

  • @johnnyscifi
    @johnnyscifi 4 года назад

    The peac walker theme song sounds like it could be an instrumental for a Kate Bush, or Grimes song...