Shadow of the Tomb Raider PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S Update - Can Next-Gen Handle 4K 60FPS?

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

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  • @Gronbar6
    @Gronbar6 3 года назад +917

    Now im waiting for "new" Skyrim Anniversary edition compared to other four versions and on 11 different consoles.

    • @entillonshadow6870
      @entillonshadow6870 3 года назад +36

      you asked for it YOU CAN NOW PLAY SKYRIM on a toilet seat! again it just works

    • @VideoWatcher8888
      @VideoWatcher8888 3 года назад +5

      Would be a good April fools video but that's be too much work for an April fools video lmao

    • @freshprinz9829
      @freshprinz9829 3 года назад +10

      Rumor is they might port it over to the sega genesis and Super Nintendo ☠️

    • @TheDoc7
      @TheDoc7 3 года назад

      When is it coming out?

    • @TheDoc7
      @TheDoc7 3 года назад +2

      @@entillonshadow6870 You’re so original !!

  • @mysticalos
    @mysticalos 3 года назад +775

    I just wish they'd touch up rise of tomb raider too.

    • @jadeprice1688
      @jadeprice1688 3 года назад +37

      I agree, that game still looks amazing
      Could use some optimization and RT

    • @robinfuijk
      @robinfuijk 3 года назад +10

      doesnt rise already have a 60fps option on PS5 (PS4 Pro BC)?

    • @ThibautMahringer
      @ThibautMahringer 3 года назад +28

      @@robinfuijk Yes but it's 1080p

    • @TheRealJohnPat
      @TheRealJohnPat 3 года назад +49

      Yeah…Shadow is the worst one, IMO. ROTR is the best. Hard to come back from 60fps once you’ve seen it over 30, at least for me

    • @thompsonpatrick79
      @thompsonpatrick79 3 года назад +33

      @@ThibautMahringer 1080p at 60 fps is still really nice to look at! Most games are at 30 and under

  • @piobu5357
    @piobu5357 3 года назад +184

    It was the towns and villages that were the heaviest, and brought the base PS4 into the ~20FPS territory. Would be nice to see how these parts run now.

    • @T4ll4hassee
      @T4ll4hassee 3 года назад +13

      On My Ps5 it has some minor but noticeable hitches while running through the cities but since there is mostly no combat it doesn‘t bother me that much. But the game looks super impressive at times and doesn‘t need to hide behind e.g ghost of tsushima. (Tested on HR mode)

    • @piobu5357
      @piobu5357 3 года назад +11

      @@T4ll4hassee Good to hear, cause I platinumed the game on the base PS4 like a week before I got the PS5, back in November '20. The moment I launched it in back-compat mode, and saw how the performance mode runs on the new console, I realized I should've just waited. Spending time in villages on the base PS4 was just nauseating after a while.
      CP2077 gets a bad rap for running poorly, but Ghostrunner, Control, Metro, this game - basically most games released at the tail end of the last gen, that aren't COD, DOOM, or SONY exclusives, dropped frames hard (sometimes even on the Pro, too). AC Syndicate was framey as heck, too, but that one has serious visual glitches on the PS5, so I had to endure it on the PS4. Even games like Jedi Fallen Order, that run alright most of the time, had constant performance issues on some planets.
      Glad this gen is shaping up to be 60FPS all around, and that even last gen titles get enhanced on the new machines.

    • @indy2277
      @indy2277 3 года назад +1

      Yeah i was curious of that as well. Even on my pc the biggest town didn’t hold 60 fps (close though), unless i dropped the shadows a notch.

    • @gamerinc9098
      @gamerinc9098 3 года назад +1

      @@piobu5357 COD DOOM 60 fps on PS4

    • @piobu5357
      @piobu5357 2 года назад +1

      @Alvin Ham 'brought the base PS4 into the ~20FPS territory'

  • @TheRealdealdude2
    @TheRealdealdude2 3 года назад +46

    Oh wow, I reinstalled Shadow Of The Tomb Raider last week with no thought of an upgrade so I can finally continue the game and finish it. This definitely made a good incentive for me to go back tonight!

  • @gregoryberrycone
    @gregoryberrycone 3 года назад +57

    patiently awaiting a video on the new quake remaster, was so surprised to learn MVG helped work on it

  • @Console_Gaming_Vids
    @Console_Gaming_Vids 3 года назад +298

    Tom: I’d love to cover some new games.
    Richard: Cyberpunk and Tomb Raider are your life now.
    Alex: Hugs PC
    John: *laughs in CRT*

  • @sawdust8691
    @sawdust8691 3 года назад +166

    I think that since the official patch for 60fps has the exact same performance as the FPS boost did, it goes to show that they really didn't optimize the game in any other way. They just set the frame rate lock to 60, and called it done. Kinda disappointing that that they take so long to do pretty much nothing to upgrade their game. I would think that they would want their upgrade to be running smoother than what the series x just does by itself.
    I'm still glad it's running at higher res and frame rate on these new consoles of course. More last gen games need upgrading, especially on playstation.

    • @MisterReen
      @MisterReen 3 года назад +8

      Not the only game that struggles to hold 60 fps on the SX.
      Where are the 12 TF? Probably the Dev Kits arrived too late again?

    • @glorious240fps6
      @glorious240fps6 3 года назад +10

      It's a free patch. They didn't have to update at all for a 3 year old game but did it anyway & for free. be grateful. Also it's running on backwards compatibility which has a lot of hardware restrictions fpsboost or boost by patch,doesn't matter. If it ain't a native next gen app,it's gonna run poorly on both machines. That's just how consoles work.

    • @sawdust8691
      @sawdust8691 3 года назад +13

      @@glorious240fps6 I know, and I am grateful. As I said I hope more last gen games get patched. But it's always nice to have the extra polish worked in, several of my last gen first party xbox games might as well be a native next gen game with their upgrades. I'll totally accept this with a smile, but it could be better. But I also understand that they didn't even have to do anything, I'm sure they have other projects going.

    • @MeekAndBackFirE
      @MeekAndBackFirE 3 года назад +18

      @@MisterReen tf u talking about. Dz reply is so irrelevant and far from what d op commented. Lol

    • @TheBean87
      @TheBean87 3 года назад +33

      @@MisterReen I mean we’re talking about native rendering vs checkerboard at lower res… guess you didn’t watch the video there eh?

  • @J07911
    @J07911 3 года назад +65

    Was already pleased with the trilogy running 60fps on the new consoles so this is a great bonus

    • @Battleneter
      @Battleneter 3 года назад +6

      The PC community would like to welcome the console community to the year 2007, congrats!

    • @jamesb7205
      @jamesb7205 3 года назад +50

      @@Battleneter these games were running at 4k 60fps on PC back in 2007? That's incredible!

    • @iDontUploadiJustSub
      @iDontUploadiJustSub 3 года назад +22

      @@jamesb7205 forreal i wanna see wat pc he had back then😑

    • @redfirefox3568
      @redfirefox3568 3 года назад +39

      @@jamesb7205 Just a snobby pc gamer that wants an ego boost. How pathetic.

    • @Battleneter
      @Battleneter 3 года назад +2

      @@redfirefox3568 I could try and explain the specification required, but I can't figure out a way to dumb it down far enough for console gamers.

  • @pixelatedpenguin4319
    @pixelatedpenguin4319 3 года назад +103

    It does make me wonder whether Microsoft are saying to devs "get as close to native 4K as possible as VRR will smooth out the frame rate dips as our most valuable customers have VRR compatible T.V's " ......
    ...because this seems to be a recurring pattern on 3rd party games. Although I suppose it could be a recurring coincidence.

    • @leonfrancis3418
      @leonfrancis3418 3 года назад +26

      I don't think it's an outright mandate, but it's definitely not a coincidence.
      Might just be the dev's choices.

    • @pixelatedpenguin4319
      @pixelatedpenguin4319 3 года назад +18

      @@leonfrancis3418 if it is purely a devs decision it's a strange one because different devs are coming to the same conclusion. In all likelihood it's probably that most teams are just not dropping the dynamic resolution enough which sort of works out for those with VRR .....but it's not so good for those without. Having said all that I can't see any difference past 1440p in any game ....lol

    • @TheFirstRealChewy
      @TheFirstRealChewy 3 года назад +5

      I think its just easier for them to get the existing games up and running on the Xbox, and VRR is a convenient crutch. Alternatively, there could be some discussion going on that we aren't privy to. I am still curious about ML support for the Xbox. We haven't heard anything in a long time.

    • @davenewman4663
      @davenewman4663 3 года назад +14

      Ps5 still dips...

    • @Keyawnce
      @Keyawnce 3 года назад +26

      @@davenewman4663 who said it didn't

  • @jvanness90
    @jvanness90 3 года назад +47

    I feel like the only person who actually really loves checkerboarding. I think the trade off is so negligible that I can’t really tell it’s not native 4K in motion. The performance is always so much better that I’d rather just have the checkerboarding over a native resolution.

    • @KarlDag
      @KarlDag 3 года назад +2

      I feel like variable rate shader will be the successor to checkerboarding, where sections of the image that don't need to be as clean require less processing.

    • @polyon1120
      @polyon1120 3 года назад +1

      I personally like checkerboarding, ill take a slightly less sharp image if it means a more stable framerate

    • @ShionShinigami
      @ShionShinigami 3 года назад +6

      Framerate > resolution any time!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @Luismedeiros150
      @Luismedeiros150 3 года назад +4

      checkerboard is underrated. horizon zero dawn for example was one of the best checkerboard implementations ever... no one would ever notice any difference if compared to native. 60 fps and cb 4k rules. it’s so much better than the normal res/performance trade off

    • @rodrigofreitas3288
      @rodrigofreitas3288 3 года назад +1

      Well, it depends on the distance you sit from your TV/Monitor. There's a point were those resolutions, be it scaled or not, look the same.

  • @nighttimestalker
    @nighttimestalker 3 года назад +47

    Devs need to stop pushing 4k...
    It's a fucking waste lol.
    Target all settings to high and 60fps as a minimum. With dynamic resolution or just target 1440p and use reconstruction.
    Modern reconstruction is more than good enough to compensate for that res drop.
    1440p60+ with high/ultra settings will always factually be superior to 4k with reduced settings and inconsistent frames.

    • @pixeljauntvr7774
      @pixeljauntvr7774 3 года назад +2

      Spot on Kaleb.

    • @shinobixero270
      @shinobixero270 3 года назад +4

      I've wondered this myself. Unfortunately, 4k is a selling point to people that don't understand how much of a waste it is.

    • @nighttimestalker
      @nighttimestalker 3 года назад +6

      @@shinobixero270
      Imo, dynamic resolution is a god send.
      They can push higher frames and settings and just let the game scale the resolution as needed to help accommodate.
      Look at metro exodus. It uses mostly high settings, some at ultra, and features almost all the raytracing features while pushing 60fps on ps5 and series X. They just let it run with a dynamic resolution. And it looks and plays fantastic

    • @sxymthrfcr
      @sxymthrfcr 3 года назад +1

      You took the words right out of my thoughts buddy , am now thinking next gen they also going to be targeting 8k and it’s deja vu these stupid geniuses

    • @asdfjklo234
      @asdfjklo234 3 года назад

      Maybe it's the suits from the publishers pushing devs to do everything in 4K now at the expense of graphical fidelity

  • @beheliteater
    @beheliteater 3 года назад +68

    I just literally started it a couple of days ago and had no idea about the update and was blown away at how pretty and smooth it was

    • @Dash101
      @Dash101 3 года назад +1

      That's great I have the game on the least powerful console, the Xbox 1 and I'm loathed if imma buy the game again for PS5 so I'm stuck looking at 1080p or something

    • @beheliteater
      @beheliteater 3 года назад +1

      @@Dash101 awe man, lmao I’d have to take the L and get it on sale or something I hate the og Xbox one 😂

    • @janjon
      @janjon 3 года назад +1

      it's a very fun game enjoy (:

    • @turrican4d599
      @turrican4d599 3 года назад

      @@beheliteater PS5 or do you play SX?

    • @beheliteater
      @beheliteater 3 года назад +1

      @@turrican4d599 SX, wby?

  • @jotawayhijo
    @jotawayhijo 3 года назад +56

    Take in mind, both consoles are still running in Backwards compatibility. So no RDNA2 improvements, the evidence is how fps boost runs exactly the same than on the official patch. I ran Shadow of the Tomb Raider at native 2160P with console settings on a Radeon VII with smoother framerates than XSX here, and Radeon VII is weaker than XSX gpu.

    • @timholloway8821
      @timholloway8821 3 года назад +12

      EXACTLY, this is why we see the frame drops, not that the consoles are being over taxed.

    • @mrpiratefox4497
      @mrpiratefox4497 3 года назад +11

      Yeah. If it was properly optimized FOR BOTH we would see a more stable performance

    • @RandyAugustus
      @RandyAugustus 3 года назад +3

      @@mrpiratefox4497 the problem is, it’s not optimized for PS5 and it’s running better.

    • @helloguy8934
      @helloguy8934 3 года назад

      Damn. I forgot how weak the Radeon 7 actually was.

    • @VTorner
      @VTorner 3 года назад +23

      @@RandyAugustus Yeah. With lower resolution and checkerboard artifacts.

  • @LolekBezBolkaShow
    @LolekBezBolkaShow 3 года назад +12

    It's a shame that developers don't check the performance of their code on XSX and release the patches with such poor performance.
    Just because the platform has more power on paper doesn't always mean that the hardware can handle it without any issues and frame rate drops.

  • @Poptartsicles
    @Poptartsicles 3 года назад +61

    Seems like this game would be a perfect candidate for dynamic resolution to smooth out those drops.

    • @High.on.Life_DnB
      @High.on.Life_DnB 3 года назад +10

      agreed, but that's not acceptable for Xbots, it's 4K or nothing... cause every single resolution under 4k is an eye soar... xD

    • @sanskarkumar1614
      @sanskarkumar1614 3 года назад +31

      @@High.on.Life_DnB What world are you in? As an Xbox player, I can confidently say that dynamic resolution is always better than native 4k.

    • @xboxheatingandaircondition7695
      @xboxheatingandaircondition7695 3 года назад +1

      @@High.on.Life_DnB welcome to the playground

    • @kaizer992
      @kaizer992 3 года назад +1

      Yeah drs is cool, if it helps why not.

    • @High.on.Life_DnB
      @High.on.Life_DnB 3 года назад +3

      @@sanskarkumar1614 Than congratulations, you're a respectable Xbox player, not an Xbot 👍 No hard feelings, I was just hoping to troll some xbots who think 4K is the most important thing for a console.

  • @AriaLaurel
    @AriaLaurel 3 года назад +60

    It's amazing how good this game still looks. Was startling going from the native PS5 Jedi Fallen Order to this games back compat and seeing how much more crisp the visuals are while also having more consistent performance.

    • @basseman4239
      @basseman4239 3 года назад +9

      still looks, like triple A games. does look good from like 5 years ago or more.. Game industry has stagnated, specially graphically.

    • @MikeJAk49
      @MikeJAk49 3 года назад +2

      @@basseman4239 with the new tech that's going into this new gen with things like unreal engine 5, RT and the ssds we're going to see definitely difference between 8th and 9th gen in the coming years.

    • @Ray-dl5mp
      @Ray-dl5mp 3 года назад +1

      @@MikeJAk49 yea it’s usually about the engines isn’t it? Every generation needs time to use a new engine well that has stuff we haven’t seen.

    • @ramellmerced8899
      @ramellmerced8899 3 года назад

      It's not native 4k on the Playstation 5 bro that's Xbox Series X

    • @originalityisdead.9513
      @originalityisdead.9513 3 года назад +8

      @@ramellmerced8899 The game isn't native 4k on either consoles and once again the Xbox is trying to push to high a resolution and performance suffers because of it.

  • @directorjustin
    @directorjustin 3 года назад +31

    A ~1440p "high frame rate" mode would have been interesting to see. I think the magic spot is somewhere between the 1080p "high frame rate" and the near-4k "high resolution" modes. One doesn't push the console hard enough, the other pushes it too hard. Neither seems really ideal.

    • @landfillao4193
      @landfillao4193 3 года назад +15

      1440p truly is the gaming sweet spot. It can give you higher resolutions and still leave room for more post processing, particle effects and whatever other graphical eye candy you want. Unfortunately 4K is a huge buzzword most people can't let go of.

    • @mtdubdachamp6917
      @mtdubdachamp6917 3 года назад +5

      1440p is amazing. 4K is too when it's done right but 1440p is perfect for me at 60fps. Anything above 1080p is always a plus imo. Not shitting on standard hd just saying I'd rather have 1440p 60fps as a nice balance.

    • @DroneCorpse
      @DroneCorpse 3 года назад

      Consoles are targeted towards TV as the primary output device. 95%+ (and im being conservative here) use TVs at 1080p or 4K instead of monitors that do 1440p. The moment you care about resolution scaling for performance you should just play on PC.

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork 3 года назад +2

      @@DroneCorpse The new consoles are running games at dynamic 1440p upscaled to 4K. So 4K is really just a buzzword since last generation because Sony wanted more people to buy 4K TV’s.

    • @directorjustin
      @directorjustin 3 года назад +1

      @@DroneCorpse Games on the PS4 and PS5 that run at resolutions higher than 1080p upscale to 4k.
      Also, I think console games should come well performing from the developer. Part of the convenience of playing on a console is all of the work of figuring out the highest possible settings while still getting a stable frame rate has been done for you!

  • @WheeledHamster
    @WheeledHamster 3 года назад +4

    In 2013 I have a Lenovo laptop with a GTX 660M, it could barely run 768p@60hz. In 2015 a GTX 980 capable of doing 1080p@60hz. In 2017 I got a 1080Ti, that thing can do 1440p@60hz. In 2021 I was lucky enough to get an RTX 3080. Now I get 4K@60hz or 1440p@144hz. Seeing these consoles going thru the same phase, I've feel very appreciative of what I have and my journey to get here. People with beefy PC takes this for granted. We all came a long way but I'll always remember that journey.

  • @anishbasak3117
    @anishbasak3117 3 года назад +72

    I really hope that developers favour frame rate over resolution as this generation progresses. I would prefer a 1440p game with some great resolution upscaling tech (like Temporal Injection) and get 60fps, than native 4k at 30.

    • @landfillao4193
      @landfillao4193 3 года назад +11

      4K is simply not worth the processing power. It's double the pixels and half the performance of 1440p and honestly, it's visually pretty negligible most of the time in gameplay. I game on PC and if I need some extra performance resolution is the 1st thing to go. Unfortunately resolution has long been big ammo in the console wars and 4K has become a buzzword with people not realizing how absurd an ask it is to run it on even pretty damn solid PCs.

    • @daveruda
      @daveruda 3 года назад +3

      True! WIth a good taa 1440p looks stellar on 4k screens. Native 4k is a marketing gimmick that isnt worth the cost.

    • @Daniel-Gomez-M
      @Daniel-Gomez-M 3 года назад +4

      1440p or even 1080p with antialiasing and rock solid 60 FPS + V-Sync modes for PS5 and Xbox Series X and nobody would need a gaming PC anymore.

    • @ZackSNetwork
      @ZackSNetwork 3 года назад +3

      @@daveruda Native 4K has always been a marketing gimmick for the consoles. 1440p 60ps upscaled is they should target because these systems are no were powerful enough.

    • @AAAGameVids
      @AAAGameVids 3 года назад

      i agree. Rachet and Clank in Performance with Ray Tracing mode at 60 FPS plays infinitely better than it does at native 4k 30 FPS, and looks almost as good as well.

  • @lukasvoglhuber3501
    @lukasvoglhuber3501 3 года назад +30

    Tom made a mistake here. PS4 Pro ran at 1872CB as stated in their own DF Analysis of Shadow of the Tomb Raider. So the Update to 2160CB on PS5 increases pixelcount and not decreases it.

    • @dadaseyi
      @dadaseyi 3 года назад

      It's explained at 4:40. The PS5 version is 1920x2016p which is well short of 4K.

    • @dadaseyi
      @dadaseyi 3 года назад +2

      2160*

    • @adrianhosein7698
      @adrianhosein7698 3 года назад +5

      @@dadaseyi looks just as good as 4k tbh lol

    • @dadaseyi
      @dadaseyi 3 года назад +1

      @@adrianhosein7698 yes, but it isn't the same. Just a fact.

    • @adrianhosein7698
      @adrianhosein7698 3 года назад +6

      @@dadaseyi in a technical way it isn't, but if it looks just as good without zooming in at 800percent then why should it discounted? The only difference they showed was in her hair and they had to zoom in to even do that, so I'd say it's better that way with better fps.

  • @infinitysynthesis
    @infinitysynthesis 3 года назад +133

    Hope we get a new Tomb Raider game soon.

    • @jadeprice1688
      @jadeprice1688 3 года назад +16

      From Crystal dynamics, they are the best when it comes to TR imo

    • @bindusaraamitaraghata9420
      @bindusaraamitaraghata9420 3 года назад +19

      Naaa, the recent trilogy were one of the least imaginative games, gameplay wise.

    • @ThibautMahringer
      @ThibautMahringer 3 года назад +36

      @@bindusaraamitaraghata9420 Coming from all the open worlds out there, I've come to appreciate the more linear gameplay. I had a lot of fun with the first two, I'm doing Shadow right now and it's really enjoyable too.

    • @NM-qd3tm
      @NM-qd3tm 3 года назад +19

      @@ThibautMahringer Yeah, I agree. Linear gameplay doesn't have to be a bad thing. It's done well in TR and there's a billion other open world games out there if you want non linear gameplay. TR is one of my favorite game series hands down.

    • @Jigsaw2383
      @Jigsaw2383 3 года назад +3

      Hopefully is like the old tomb raider, I haven’t played shadow, but the first and rise were boring, like a shooter galley.

  • @vulcan4d
    @vulcan4d 3 года назад +85

    Now we need Red Dead Redemption 2 X/S update.

    • @C0ZYL4ZY
      @C0ZYL4ZY Год назад +5

      I wish man they will never do it 😢

    • @niceguy5772
      @niceguy5772 Год назад +1

      ​@@C0ZYL4ZYik , so sad yet so true

    • @d4mterro320
      @d4mterro320 Год назад +1

      What update bro? That game is better looking than my life

    • @niceguy5772
      @niceguy5772 Год назад

      ur defo on pc @@d4mterro320

    • @Red_dead_Redemption_4_Life
      @Red_dead_Redemption_4_Life Год назад +2

      Red dead redemption 2 Expanded and enhanced only For 59.99$

  • @Dknightxs
    @Dknightxs Год назад +5

    These 3 tomb raider games are just fantastic, i really wish the 2013 tomb raider gets a 4k patch too

  • @dutlee81
    @dutlee81 3 года назад +48

    So did they actually patch the series x resolution mode or just leave it to series x fps boost and call it a day. I mean nothing changed.

    • @lumpofdirt69
      @lumpofdirt69 3 года назад +8

      It's just fps boost. They did the same thing with sniper elite 4.

    • @Cyrribrae
      @Cyrribrae 3 года назад +9

      It does kind of feel like they didn't do as much work on Xbox. The Series S enhancement is.. underwhelming.. Especially when they upgraded the resolution on PS5. But who knows. Dev is hard.

    • @THEBATMAN28AHH
      @THEBATMAN28AHH 3 года назад +28

      They gave the game an actual 60fps update so it removed the fps boost option on Xbox. The only takeaway for me from this vid is that the ps5's saving grace on res mode is that fact that it's checkerboard. I can't tell you how irritating it is for me to hear people on last gen talk so much crap about checkerboard, but now it's suddenly fine. If the series x also used that method, i have no doubt the numbers would be higher on average. I say kudos to Xbox for keeping a higher resolution, even with the hiccups here and there. really flexing the muscle in my opinion.

    • @zimelo6957
      @zimelo6957 3 года назад +10

      ​@@THEBATMAN28AHH Yeah... so much muscle-flexing that it gets 10% worse fps with 20% more CUs. Such win, much flex. 🙄

    • @technicallyreal
      @technicallyreal 3 года назад +16

      @@zimelo6957 I think you're misunderstanding.. SX is pushing significantly more pixels (up to 100% more per frame) with only an occasional 10% performance penalty. A penalty that the dev thinks is better than lowering pixel count to match PS5, because the performance drops won't even be felt on a VRR television. Which BTW is nearly every television with HDMI 2.1, and devs are hoping next-gen owners are pairing their machines with HDMI 2.1 sets.

  • @Huss_D
    @Huss_D 2 года назад +9

    I’m happy they took the time to add this update, and it’s free, but I got to admit I’m a bit disappointed they couldn’t go to 1080 on the series S. This isn’t much different from the FPS boost.
    Still, I’m looking forward to playing this, I’ve had sitting in my games for awhile now and just haven’t got around to it, and the 60 FPS sounds a lot nicer than the 20-30 that It would have been before the update.

  • @PikaStu666
    @PikaStu666 3 года назад +17

    I recently started this for the first time, on PC. A very enjoyable game and beautiful to look at!

    • @rinzler8272
      @rinzler8272 3 года назад +2

      Same. 160 fps on ultra settings is insane

  • @oscarmike90
    @oscarmike90 3 года назад +23

    What a lazy next gen patch. Series S could easily be 1080p 60 fps. Devs just use Fps Boost and call it a "patch", didnt even change graphical settings.

    • @joaquinipar6133
      @joaquinipar6133 3 года назад +9

      I agree, 900p is a really low resolution for a new generation console.

    • @DeAtHvAnGeL
      @DeAtHvAnGeL 3 года назад

      @@joaquinipar6133 that console is not really new gen it's too slow, the only new gen consoles are series x and ps5, series s sucks

    • @thebeetalls
      @thebeetalls 3 года назад +7

      @@DeAtHvAnGeL Series S has a massive CPU advantage over One X and it can handle 60FPS gaming far better than any last gen console. The Series S is a fine console for people on a budget.

    • @joaquinipar6133
      @joaquinipar6133 3 года назад

      @@DeAtHvAnGeL Well, it has the same processor as the series x, so its definitely powerful.
      Also, its quite cheap considering that a mid-level GPU is worth is more than the entire console.

    • @DeAtHvAnGeL
      @DeAtHvAnGeL 3 года назад

      @@joaquinipar6133 cpu wise yeah the gpu inside the series s sucks, also cpu alone is not the main component to push frames.

  • @OhHeyyDan
    @OhHeyyDan 3 года назад +74

    Tom and this game are beyond a meme now, and I’m all here for it

    • @kingbeast777
      @kingbeast777 3 года назад

      Salty?

    • @OhHeyyDan
      @OhHeyyDan 3 года назад +11

      @@kingbeast777 Not at all! Got nothing but love and respect for the DF team 😌

    • @xboxheatingandaircondition7695
      @xboxheatingandaircondition7695 3 года назад

      Are you thinking of Mortal Shell? Maybe I am mixing them up.

  • @nightowl3582
    @nightowl3582 3 года назад +12

    i would love for them to go back and touch up the first game from 2013. That's my fav in the whole trilogy.

    • @bl4ckout36
      @bl4ckout36 3 года назад

      Hmm why? Its worse on every aspect

    • @nightowl3582
      @nightowl3582 3 года назад +1

      @@bl4ckout36 Opinions are great aren't they? See, we are two people who are able to feel differently about the same thing and that's totally Ok.

    • @strangewayfaringstranger
      @strangewayfaringstranger 3 года назад

      Even that game looks pretty good on the Series X. I was playing that recently, it's pretty cool. I like that they reimagined this whole series. I mean, movie producers have been doing that for a bit now, so why not games too?

  • @cheko98
    @cheko98 3 года назад +9

    Will you guys be doing a video on Quake remastered?

  • @Dryestspartan
    @Dryestspartan 3 года назад +14

    The new update literally broke the lighting system on series x, you can see the artifacts i'm talking about at 7:05, there's light flickering on the sides of the plane.
    It becomes even worse later on, in some scenes the lights start to flicker so much that the jungle turns into a disco i swear

    • @UberNoodle
      @UberNoodle 3 года назад

      That sucks. I was going to install the game and start playing it again. Hopefully they will patch the lighting bug.

    • @turrican4d599
      @turrican4d599 3 года назад

      Could one avoid the new update and only boost to 60fps, or is that out of the windows now? And why did Tom not catch this?!

    • @Dryestspartan
      @Dryestspartan 3 года назад +1

      I think you just can't unpatch the game, the only way would be to still have the good version of the game installed and to never patch it.
      Tom probably didn't notice because the glitch gets heavier after the first few minutes when you're deep into the jungle, i'd say that past the first village after the plane crash you'd really start to notice it

    • @ivanleon6164
      @ivanleon6164 3 года назад

      @@turrican4d599 because it was a box issue, they dont do that.

  • @Mithrie
    @Mithrie 3 года назад +13

    This is great news, I hope they will do the same for Rise of the Tomb Raider and Tomb Raider 2013 if they haven't already. I wonder if we'll get a next-gen client for the games.

    • @greggski3710
      @greggski3710 3 года назад

      On Xbox all 3 games got fps boost from 30 to 60.
      The first game runs @ 1080p 60 fps on PS4. Rise of the TR should have resolution and framerate modes.

    • @jonathanmontes5579
      @jonathanmontes5579 3 года назад

      @@greggski3710 The first game runs at 30FPS on PS4, not 60.

    • @greggski3710
      @greggski3710 3 года назад +4

      @@jonathanmontes5579 30 on Xbox and is unlocked on PS4, often hitting 60 fps. On PS5 it's rock solid 60.
      You can look for DF video comparing PS4 and XO version.

    • @jonathanmontes5579
      @jonathanmontes5579 3 года назад

      @@greggski3710 Yes I looked it up and it's true, my bad bro.

    • @greggski3710
      @greggski3710 3 года назад

      @@jonathanmontes5579 No problem. I was surprised when i learnt that too :D

  • @kyles8524
    @kyles8524 3 года назад +56

    I dont even know why Im not even interested in Series X or PS5 performance.I always want to see how series S performs

    • @nebulousme
      @nebulousme 3 года назад +5

      Check "The Xbox Tester" he tries all series s games

    • @WheeledHamster
      @WheeledHamster 3 года назад +7

      That’s a crap console!

    • @mandrews6282
      @mandrews6282 3 года назад +20

      @@WheeledHamster you’re a crap console

    • @spresso007
      @spresso007 3 года назад +1

      @@WheeledHamster tears haha

    • @AdamAdamHDL
      @AdamAdamHDL 3 года назад +9

      No one cares what the flag ships can do, it's the work horse that people care about. The little guy, that's why. I'm a PS guy and the PS5 digital runs the same as the disc version so I have nothing to cheer for. I to want to see how the series S does. The little train that could.

  • @bradley7506
    @bradley7506 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have it on my
    pS5 but I can’t even use the “O” button to remove the rock from Lara’s ankle right at the beginning after the plane crash…there is no response to using the “O” button. I don’t know what’s wrong but I can’t play this game
    with a PS5 controller on my
    PS5

  • @DanDaMaN95cov
    @DanDaMaN95cov 3 года назад +14

    I played this on Base PS4. Desperately need an upgrade

  • @RickRogersII
    @RickRogersII 3 года назад +4

    Tomb Raider Definitive Edition needs this more than any other game in the series as there is no actual definitive version. On PS5, you get a locked 60FPS at 1080p with better assets and physics applied to Lara. However, PC allows for higher frame rates and 4k, but some of the assets are not as good. It would be nice for that game to get a resolution bump for next gen or to have an official PC release. Preferably both.

  • @pepperoni6816
    @pepperoni6816 3 года назад +17

    @digital foundry I've noticed in comparisons with a lot of the updates to last gen games that the playstation uses sub 4k resolution with checkerboard upscaling while xbox tries to aim for a more native resolution. My questions are: Do you know if this a developer made decision or the console side dictating this? Why wouldn't the same technique be used for each console in terms of how to deal with resolution (and possibly framerates) and is there any backend system performance advantage to one over the other? If this was the case that it could be done does that also mean the playstation and xbox would have matching performance across the board with resolution and framerate? Sorry if this has been explained previously and thanks for the good content.

    • @AIIEYESONME
      @AIIEYESONME 3 года назад

      Series Consoles also implement Auto HDR. Which easily explains the few dropped frames on the X. And ofc you actually can't see the diff without an HDR display, you won't see on RUclipss.

  • @ultimablackmage
    @ultimablackmage 3 года назад +45

    Well... kinda glad I never beat the game on PS4 now. Once I'm done with Ghost of Tsushima again, I might just play it on PS5.

    • @Dragon-jd8zi
      @Dragon-jd8zi 3 года назад +2

      Haha same here! Missed that 60fps option on the ps4!

    • @Countless_Relics
      @Countless_Relics 3 года назад

      When I'm done with GoT, I buy Battlefield 5.
      I liked this Tomb Raider very much, but not gonna play it again.

    • @LonghornsLegend
      @LonghornsLegend 3 года назад +2

      Best part of this generation is getting back to to games you never played/beat and getting to play them enhanced with 60fps or better quality. With all the delays of new games, perfect time to knock out some older titles

    • @Countless_Relics
      @Countless_Relics 3 года назад +1

      @@LonghornsLegend Correct, this was done in the previous generation as well, to make the wait easier after the launchgames, cause mostly, there is a gap between those 1nd the second wave.
      But it doesn't change the gameplay or anything.
      I keep that in mind.

    • @LonghornsLegend
      @LonghornsLegend 3 года назад

      @@Countless_Relics true. But that's why an external HDD is so imperative this generation you can store games like this on it and still get next gen features. I'll eventually beat this before the new TR releases

  • @Xshinobi2k8
    @Xshinobi2k8 3 года назад +8

    Shadow of the Tomb Raider is such a brilliant game, Eidos Montreal really did a superb job with this game and it has me super excited for GotG. All 3 of games in the new trilogy are fantastic but TR2013 and SotTR ended up being my favorites and I will take any excuse to replay this game.

    • @robmallaby1641
      @robmallaby1641 3 года назад +4

      Game looked stunning but was boring and puzzles were to easy. Lacked any real action wich was a shame. I thought Rise of the Tombraider was much better tbh.

    • @redi6460
      @redi6460 3 года назад

      Rottr is my favourite

    • @dcmastermindfirst9418
      @dcmastermindfirst9418 Год назад

      Meh the story was so average.

  • @atomickaiser1934
    @atomickaiser1934 3 года назад +30

    I wish rise can get some love. That's the best one imo.

    • @biconditionals
      @biconditionals 3 года назад +4

      I’m just happy that Shadow is getting acknowledged after landing with kind of a nothing impact. Really, really enjoyed my time with it.

    • @atomickaiser1934
      @atomickaiser1934 3 года назад

      @@biconditionals I did too. Just found it boring on my 2nd run.

    • @atomickaiser1934
      @atomickaiser1934 3 года назад

      @VinAr Run Yeah buddy. That's not how it works because games aren't movies. I dont throw away money on games I play only once. What I don't get is people like you. Many games can be interacted with differently or have engaging combat/story that i want to experience again.

    • @atomickaiser1934
      @atomickaiser1934 3 года назад

      @VinAr Run Explain to me the bs. You don't like playing games a second time. Thats you. I actually enjoy my games. Do I eventually get burnt out? Sure. But there are timeless games like bloodborne, mass effect, resident evil etc that you can enjoy countless times and get a new experience out of it. Maybe you just don't play enough games 🤷

    • @atomickaiser1934
      @atomickaiser1934 3 года назад

      @VinAr Run You come off as some fake gamer that probably doesn't even finish his games. Nothing I've said is out of the ordinary and extremely common. The only oddball and one "full of shit" is you. If by bad taste you mean the games I mentioned well those are some of the most highly praised games of their respective genres so 🤷

  • @SalveMonesvol
    @SalveMonesvol 3 года назад +16

    I find it strange that Series X can't just double the frame rate of One X while running at the same resolution. It attempts to do so, but drops frames here and there.
    Of the PS5 side it's even stranger, as the multiplier from PS4 pro to PS5 is almost 2.5X.

    • @UberNoodle
      @UberNoodle 3 года назад +16

      Maybe it has to do with the fact that it's an Xbox One X game at its core and there are limitations at to what a patch can achieve.

    • @SalveMonesvol
      @SalveMonesvol 3 года назад +1

      @@UberNoodle well, I could understand that happening to PlayStation as it is still more of a console, but on the Xbox, running DirectX, it should just be like upgrading your PC and running the same Windows game.

    • @scoty3434
      @scoty3434 3 года назад +1

      I cant imagine if xbox series x and s doesn t have VRR in he s console at launch , PS5 win there , even i cant imagine if PS5 and sony s tv have this VRR patch on december , i want to see how PS5 is capable with VRR

  • @jumanjixz8961
    @jumanjixz8961 3 года назад +10

    If ur going to buy a Xbox series X make sure u buy a Tv with VRR or just buy a 399 PS5

    • @pleasuretokill
      @pleasuretokill 3 года назад +3

      OLED w/ VRR is literally god tier. Not sure why anyone would want less.

    • @infamous_ghost3361
      @infamous_ghost3361 3 года назад +8

      Why would I want to play at lower and fake resolution. VRR monitors are cheap and many 4k vrr TVs are cheap as well. Best gaming experience is series x with an LG oled vRR

    • @TheFirestriker101
      @TheFirestriker101 3 года назад +3

      @@infamous_ghost3361 cheap my butt 😂 a Monitor though yes.

    • @RandomGamingMoments925
      @RandomGamingMoments925 3 года назад +8

      @@infamous_ghost3361 I'd rather play at checkerboard 4K with fewer dips. Looks indistinguishable from 6 feet away, and the experience feels fluid. But hey, to each their own.

    • @kotboyarkin5032
      @kotboyarkin5032 3 года назад

      or just buy a 32" 1440p 144 Hz Freesync monitor (if VRR 4K 120 tv is expensive) which is cheap as fk and will give you the best picture quality and VRR support

  • @FortWorthRaised
    @FortWorthRaised 3 года назад +6

    Shoutout to the VRR support, you won’t notice the dips

    • @PortfolioPL
      @PortfolioPL 3 года назад +1

      On the 0.01% of TVs that supports it.

    • @TheDecisionsDecision
      @TheDecisionsDecision 3 года назад

      @@PortfolioPL On noes.... you're poor 💰😢

    • @gooddoc8129
      @gooddoc8129 2 года назад

      ​@@TheDecisionsDecision
      is that supposed to be insult
      you probably live on daddy's wallet

  • @YH-si8xk
    @YH-si8xk 3 года назад +1

    So basically the best way to play it, if you have a modern TV like the LG CX or C1 is with the Series X, right? Since with VRR I get a smooth experience but also the higher res. Genuinely asking since I have both consoles hooked up to my CX and I’m not sure where I should play.

  • @219SilverChoc
    @219SilverChoc 3 года назад +24

    Series S definitely has the overhead for native 1080p, I would understand doing this update on Xbox if they had changed the resolution on S and X, but this does the exact same thing FPS boost did.

    • @maxminy5634
      @maxminy5634 3 года назад +4

      It’s using the one s code base and unlocked frame rate that’s why. They would have to make a native app to get 1080p.

    • @RickRogersII
      @RickRogersII 3 года назад

      I think this is simply using the FPS boost, but doing it in an official patch. PS5 actually had some work done for it. However, the reality is neither is using the newer systems to their potential. Both of these consoles should be able to do 4k 60FPS native with ease on this title. They're running PS4/Xbox One code, however, not native code.

    • @Countless_Relics
      @Countless_Relics 3 года назад +2

      I don't know...
      My guess is that 60fps is extremely heavy for modern games, and the S' goal was 60fps no matter what.
      They had to drop the res to 900p.

    • @219SilverChoc
      @219SilverChoc 3 года назад +1

      @@RickRogersII Yeah, just dont get why they made it an 'offical patch'. Doesnt it mean that you cant play it off external storage on Series consoles?

    • @pyrox6585
      @pyrox6585 3 года назад +10

      @@JohnSmith-XYZ My series s isn’t “crap”

  • @Lavoss05
    @Lavoss05 3 года назад +5

    Im just very curious on why PS5 and Series X where not able to do 4K/60 and why they didnt Go Native 4K/30 and 1080/120 in the options settings also why Series S was not running at 1080/60 and 1440/30 to me these are very good questions and would had made the game and new consoles shine with this title.

    • @TimDespairBear11
      @TimDespairBear11 3 года назад +1

      From what I’ve seen people say, this game is running under backward compatibility and cannot use the full power of PS5 or series x because it’s not a fully optimized version

    • @virxest
      @virxest 3 года назад

      1080p looks absolutely horrible on a big 4K TV. I played FH4 for 3500 hours at 30 fps (and I tried to be fast, not just drive around). My eyes couldn't stand 1080p. I have no complaints on Series X at quality mode.

    • @Lavoss05
      @Lavoss05 3 года назад +1

      @@TimDespairBear11 That make more sense.....Thanks

  • @miikasuominen3845
    @miikasuominen3845 3 года назад +11

    On many games, it seems, that devs go on minimum effort. I mean, it should run better on Series X...
    And as someone else said here, now they marked it to be X/S-enhanced, so you GOT TO install it to internal drive...
    When the only thing to change is the 60fps thing, it's a lose-lose situation to fps-boost mode...

    • @k2red648
      @k2red648 3 года назад +6

      it s all about the t FLAPS LMFAO

    • @yorksrover
      @yorksrover 3 года назад

      I just turned off auto update so fingers crossed I can continue using fps boost

    • @Countless_Relics
      @Countless_Relics 3 года назад

      Hihi, enchanted. You probably mean enhanced, but I could be wrong. 🤔

    • @miikasuominen3845
      @miikasuominen3845 3 года назад +1

      @@Countless_Relics No, you're actually not wrong. But, don't worry! I will edit it, so you can continue without worries ;)
      P.S. You see? You can sleep, restfully, again now! :D

    • @Countless_Relics
      @Countless_Relics 3 года назад

      @@miikasuominen3845 😏

  • @wallacerigby4393
    @wallacerigby4393 3 года назад +31

    Here we go again! See you in the Skyrim comments also....

  • @Crashed131963
    @Crashed131963 Год назад +1

    So on Ps5 it is 1080p with solid locked 60fps or
    2160p at 60 fps with 50 fps dropped here and there ?
    I will take 2160p for 90% of the game, 10% at 50 fps is doable .

  • @racephase
    @racephase 3 года назад +1

    Again.... you don't say it CLEARLY IN THE END that Xbox WITH VRR is a better option overall since you have 4k resolution and less noticeble drops.. You are avoiding mention this at the end of every video. We need to move on... playing without VRR in 2021 is a joke.

  • @entillonshadow6870
    @entillonshadow6870 3 года назад +12

    DF i love the content you put out i just made lunch and wanted something to watch instead of hulu etc always makes sense straight to the point and gets every detail

  • @TheInfiniteDraw
    @TheInfiniteDraw 3 года назад +19

    Native resolution means very little nowadays with the advent of these kinds of technologies. I would more often then not take a DLSS game or a CB game running at super high framerates and looking perceptively very close to native, then running at native and tanking FPS. As long as the CB or DLSS implementations are done well, it's really a win win.

    • @SweBeach2023
      @SweBeach2023 3 года назад +1

      I suspect that as soon as DLSS or similar is widespread enough games will ones again start to tank in performance because the developers will use the performance saved to just add new effects. But then running at native resolution will be close to impossible similar to it today being impossible to run a modern game only using a software (CPU) render path.

    • @UberNoodle
      @UberNoodle 3 года назад +1

      To a degree, but I wouldn't say that the technology makes native resolution mean very little. It still has artefacts and image breakup etc. You can definitely tell the difference com especially if you're on PC and you can switch between the two approaches. But I agree that would be technology you can get a at a higher framerate. That being said, the resolution mode is about resolution not framerate. There's already a frame rate mode in the that makes the necessary sacrifice of resolution.

    • @tonyungfat
      @tonyungfat 3 года назад

      You do know that the game is only tanking because it's running in backwards compatibility mode right??? Also the best way to play this game now is with vrr.....

    • @TheInfiniteDraw
      @TheInfiniteDraw 3 года назад

      @@UberNoodle In games like Control, the DLSS implementation actually looks better then native in my experience. So it really depends on how the technology is implemented.

    • @UberNoodle
      @UberNoodle 3 года назад

      @@TheInfiniteDraw Perhaps, especially in the Northlight engine which tends to employ has so much postprocessing.

  • @davidmurphy7332
    @davidmurphy7332 3 года назад +4

    So as someone with both PS5 and Series X, and a TV capable of VRR, which is the best version for me? If VRR smooths over the fps drops, is Series X better for its near-native 4k or is the droppage still too noticeable?

    • @PantherCrane
      @PantherCrane 3 года назад

      Yes, definitely

    • @skandosh9025
      @skandosh9025 3 года назад +7

      Series X . You wont notice the drops with VRR .

    • @RandomGamingMoments925
      @RandomGamingMoments925 3 года назад +2

      I'd say Series X, but the resolution gap isn't that big. Toss a coin and pick your poison.

    • @mrrglass3407
      @mrrglass3407 3 года назад +4

      @@RandomGamingMoments925
      4 million pixels difference...😁

    • @stephenshelottiii3272
      @stephenshelottiii3272 3 года назад +3

      Go with the console you play the most. The tiny bit of difference between the 2 won’t be noticeable during gameplay.

  • @guybrushthreepwood8174
    @guybrushthreepwood8174 8 месяцев назад +2

    just loaded this up on series X. surprised at how good these areas look.

    • @DarqStalker
      @DarqStalker 8 месяцев назад

      Going back to this too as it's now on gamepass. Resolution mode is looking great and fps is great too with VRR on.

    • @alra2heed843
      @alra2heed843 8 месяцев назад

      Is the resolution mode 30 fps or what ? It doesn't look like 60 fps, I'm playing with the series x console by the way.

    • @DarqStalker
      @DarqStalker 8 месяцев назад

      @@alra2heed843 I'm using resolution mode on Series X as well and it feels like 60fps. I tried FPS mode and feels the same. I do have VRR so that might help a little.

  • @AndyGilleand
    @AndyGilleand 3 года назад +2

    It frustrates me when DF refers to checkerboard as 1920x2160. That is not in any way how checkerboarding works. Regular width and height numbers can't actually describe the way checkerboarding works.
    The full image is 3840x2160, it's just that the first half of that frame is rendered in a checkerboard pattern, with the second half of that image rendered in the next frame. The gaps in that checkerboard pattern are filled in using reprojected pixels from previous frames. If the image is completely still, checkerboard produces a perfectly native 4K image. When normal levels of motion are there, it looks native about 95% of the time. When motion gets very fast and unpredictable, then yes the reprojection can't perfectly reconstruct the image, but in that case, motion blur will probably cover it up anyway. To the human eye in motion, it is extremely rare to ever be able to tell a difference between native and checkerboard.

  • @MajerHawk
    @MajerHawk 3 года назад +27

    Would be nice to get 4K 60 for all 3 games

    • @Shaker1000
      @Shaker1000 3 года назад +3

      Consoles are not strong enough, you will see a severe drop in fps. It's why Sony uses less resolution to keep fps stable vs xbox using more higher resolution 🤔

    • @mainsmain
      @mainsmain 3 года назад +13

      @@Shaker1000 lol pretty sure they could run the first 2 games at 4k 60fps

    • @MajerHawk
      @MajerHawk 3 года назад +1

      @@Shaker1000 well then a dynamic 4K with a solid 60fps. There’s ways of getting a clean image that’s comparable to 4K

    • @MrMilkyCoco
      @MrMilkyCoco 3 года назад

      First two games sure but not the third one.

    • @hassosigbjoernson5738
      @hassosigbjoernson5738 3 года назад

      @@MajerHawk Is it so, also on Series X? Because I'm not sure if Series X supports even something like a dynamic resolution because no developer seems to use it!

  • @AntonVonEsch
    @AntonVonEsch 3 года назад +30

    You're forgetting an important part to this, with the "optimized for series x/s" patch you're not able to install and play the game on an external hdd anymore, which is honestly a downgrade in my book, since it's already tricky with the limited internal ssd space. So with no improvements over the fps boost version whatsoever, this is disappointing for sure

    • @miikasuominen3845
      @miikasuominen3845 3 года назад +2

      This is so true...

    • @jonmon5745
      @jonmon5745 3 года назад +3

      You dont have a choice but buy the xbox proprietary ssd once most heavy games gets upgraded to next gen version.... While ps5 have 135$ nvme ssd 1tb option..

    • @ThibautMahringer
      @ThibautMahringer 3 года назад +1

      I play the game just fine from an external HDD, even with the "optimized for Series X/S". It's my second game that allow that, the first being Ori and the Will of the Wisps

    • @AntonVonEsch
      @AntonVonEsch 3 года назад

      @@ThibautMahringer really, that's interesting. Will test that out for sure. I mean with 99% of games that shouldn't be possible if it's a native gen scarlett app, but there are exceptions then I guess
      *yes I checked for ori, it is still gen durango, so i guess just like shadow ottr it's not a native next gen app.

    • @ThibautMahringer
      @ThibautMahringer 3 года назад +1

      @@AntonVonEsch Yep, but it's still labeled "optimized for Series X/S". It's weird...

  • @fischysical
    @fischysical 3 года назад +6

    Ngl kinda disappointed at series S being at 900p, I expected it to be at least 1080 for all games given it was advertised as 1440p system

    • @sasukegodmode7213
      @sasukegodmode7213 3 года назад +4

      Series S is the biggest L in Gaming history... Runs cold war at 1080p dropping to 40FPS(no 120FPS)
      While Ps5 Digital(only 100€ more)
      Checkerboard 4K RT at 60FPS/1440 Checkerboard 1200p at 120FPS

    • @prich0382
      @prich0382 3 года назад

      Up to 1440p... No one said it's always 1440p, depends on the game

  • @XDLugia
    @XDLugia 3 года назад +2

    Was there any graphical updates in the game aside from resolution? I wish you'd touch upon that.

    • @JamieRobert_
      @JamieRobert_ 2 года назад +1

      No there wasn’t it’s just a resolution bump and frame rate

  • @siceastwood2714
    @siceastwood2714 3 года назад +1

    I don't get it, every updated or new next gen release seems to utilize some sort of temporal reconstruction or checkerboarding etc. but the PC versions continue to be lacking any sort of similar solution

  • @dooleh84
    @dooleh84 3 года назад +9

    I wish they made a new version for next gen. Wouldn't mind platinuming it again.

    • @CyborgSodaCollects
      @CyborgSodaCollects 3 года назад

      That's a meaty platinum.

    • @dooleh84
      @dooleh84 3 года назад +1

      @@CyborgSodaCollects It's the easiest in the trilogy, even with all the dlc trophies.

    • @CyborgSodaCollects
      @CyborgSodaCollects 3 года назад

      @@dooleh84 really? I might go for it. I got collector fatigue.

    • @dooleh84
      @dooleh84 3 года назад

      @@CyborgSodaCollects Only the trophy for playing it on the hardest difficulty got me raging in one particular section, because I kept failing a jump over and over, and had to restart from the same checkpoint like 5+ times. Otherwise it really wasn't hard. I would recommend going for that trophy after you already get most of the others though. I played it in ng+ with the upgrades I got in my collectathon run.

    • @Countless_Relics
      @Countless_Relics 3 года назад +1

      A remake, with RT.

  • @ridiculous_gaming
    @ridiculous_gaming 3 года назад +21

    The new patch is welcomed, but I await new native titles using new engines optimized for these new console's.

    • @mach3wgamer
      @mach3wgamer 3 года назад +3

      With the pandemic and everything on short supply, I believe most companies will plan to hold off on releasing new games so they can maximize the sales revenue.
      For example:
      Release a game now for $60, for 1M console owners, that's $60M. Next year the same game will already be at a discounted price.
      If they wait to release it next year where there will be 2x the console owners, that would be $120M.

    • @ridiculous_gaming
      @ridiculous_gaming 3 года назад +1

      @@mach3wgamer True enough. Also, taking account the cost for producing a recent AAA title is the main reason for continued support for last generation console's.

  • @jetmaster7159
    @jetmaster7159 Год назад +3

    I prefer better image instead of some drops of fps...

  • @arturoperez3826
    @arturoperez3826 10 дней назад

    Why does my game look choppy every time I’m turning left or right or looking up or down??

  • @styles234
    @styles234 3 года назад +6

    All this time I’ve just been using this game as a system benchmark for my PC. Maybe I should actually try playing it

    • @d.sherman8563
      @d.sherman8563 3 года назад

      It's a fantastic game, you should try it.

  • @GGMattt
    @GGMattt 3 года назад +7

    This is why I always opt to play my PC games at 1800p 60FPS depending on the game type, it looks almost identical to 4K and doesn't strain the system half as much and looks much nicer than 1440p

  • @DVictor23
    @DVictor23 3 года назад +5

    I love the fact that you guys don't ignore the series S.

    • @nattila7713
      @nattila7713 3 года назад +8

      squere enix ignored it though :(

  • @samthomas6045
    @samthomas6045 3 года назад +20

    So, short of fps bump, the series s is untouched. I’m not sure I’d call that ‘optimised’ 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @hassosigbjoernson5738
      @hassosigbjoernson5738 3 года назад +6

      There should be a way to run One X code (1080p or 1440p) with FPS Boost Mode on Series S.

    • @andrewsqual
      @andrewsqual 3 года назад

      Or like any game with the gimmick "Optimised for" stamp, it's just a load of nonsense.

    • @samthomas6045
      @samthomas6045 3 года назад +2

      It could handle 1080p easily I'd imagine, but yeah, better than nothing.

  • @Who-Uhm-Cares
    @Who-Uhm-Cares 3 года назад +2

    Checkerboard rendering and 60fps is the perfect combo for PS5. Checkerboard is just as good as dlss on pc

  • @jord-o965
    @jord-o965 5 месяцев назад +1

    This game still looks astonishing for a 6 year old game. Games are aging way less, more and more.

  • @BobSentell
    @BobSentell 3 года назад +13

    It'd be nice for them to touch up the older ones. In the mood for an unbroken trilogy run-through.

    • @johnames6430
      @johnames6430 3 года назад +1

      Try doing something productive instead.

  • @lordrichard6616
    @lordrichard6616 3 года назад +12

    Alot of people keep saying ps5 runs games better yet ignores most run at a lower peak resolution or dynamic....

    • @ahmetfiratdulek834
      @ahmetfiratdulek834 3 года назад +10

      PlayStation handle games better
      But the resolution see no difference

    • @tomcoleman9119
      @tomcoleman9119 3 года назад +8

      Yes that's because it's PS4 pro version running on the PS5, and that console was always lower resolution than the one X version. Stable FPS should always be prioritized unless you're dropping to stupid low resolutions of course.

    • @lordrichard6616
      @lordrichard6616 3 года назад +5

      @@ahmetfiratdulek834 you are dumb if you think most don't have a lower resolution it's been shown many times

    • @ggboss5065
      @ggboss5065 3 года назад

      Because it’s a PS4 pro game lol watch comparisons of actual next gen games..

    • @emodadon1131
      @emodadon1131 3 года назад +1

      @@tomcoleman9119 yes but they didn't go back and apply any next Gen tools to the game or updates they just unlocked the framerate. No optimizations

  • @Floodsye
    @Floodsye 3 года назад +22

    Love ya, DF and this is a great video. However, due to your format of "here's the worst performing sequence", it puts the Series X further behind than it really is from my personal playthrough (mind you I do not have the tools to test for framerate, just judging myself as drops are pretty easy to see in a 60fps title) as other areas of the game really do hold up quite well to 60fps at 2016p. However, if anyone sees this and is thinking/wondering about getting a VRR display...it's extremely worth it in situations like this (which there are several on both consoles, but only Xbox fully supports the tech). The game looks amazing on my VRR monitor, though I do lose some resolution down to 1440p as my 4K TV (dumb me bought it like 2 months before VRR started coming out) does not have the VRR tech. Bit of a compromise for me, but for those thinking about getting a 4K TV with VRR for Series X...do it, it's a lifesaver when the developer doesn't quite reach that 60fps mark.

    • @duncanself5111
      @duncanself5111 3 года назад +1

      It'll always feel better to play a game with a locked frame rate, VRR won't change that

    • @duncanself5111
      @duncanself5111 3 года назад

      Input latency

    • @suppressed_viii
      @suppressed_viii 3 года назад +7

      @@duncanself5111 Not every game can't run with that locked frame rate. That's why VRR exists.

    • @duncanself5111
      @duncanself5111 3 года назад

      @@suppressed_viii I was just saying what it won't fix and the benifits of having a higher more consistent framerate that the PS5 seems to generally offer

    • @m4ko288
      @m4ko288 3 года назад +9

      Its a locked 60 fps in 99% of the time you play this game. DF just picked the worst 1% and then declares PS5 as winner. Even though SeriesX renders almost TWICE the resolution and has a much better picture. DF is obviously paid by Sony / or they are Sony fanboys. No-one in their right minds would pick PS5 as the winner here. Especially because BOTH consoles drop frames in those areas. And SeriesX at least has VRR. Which means you will feel the 40-drops less then PS5s 50-drops. And as we all know - DF have a VRR capable LG OLED - so they experience a better image AND steadier framerate (thanks to VRR) - but still they declare PS5 as winner. Because of money / fanboyism.
      So yeah. Dont bother - DF do this in all their reviews. Reality is: If the PS5 would render this game at SeriesX resolution - it would just stutter all the time.

  • @MaxIronsThird
    @MaxIronsThird 3 года назад +1

    So, the port to Series X was basically just a copy/paste?
    It runs basically the same as the FPS boost version, which changes no lines of code from the game.

  • @arireview4510
    @arireview4510 3 года назад

    What's different from last months patch? Wasn't it a 4k 60fps upgrade already???? WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?????

  • @oscarmedina7368
    @oscarmedina7368 3 года назад +4

    Can we see all 11 versions of Skyrim when it’s out! That’d be awesome!

  • @Scarface1982G
    @Scarface1982G 3 года назад +32

    Would rather have Rise of the Tomb Raider next gen best one for me.

    • @Scarface1982G
      @Scarface1982G 3 года назад +1

      @@takh6806 It's still a good game but i think rise had the best story and locations in the game.

    • @dickdanson
      @dickdanson 3 года назад

      @@takh6806 shadow is really good as well, I just played through both for the first time and they are very similar to be honest

    • @Name-fd2co
      @Name-fd2co 3 года назад +1

      @@takh6806 It's not bad but it's definitely noticeably worse than the previous two. If you enjoyed the other games then you'll enjoy shadow

    • @daveruda
      @daveruda 3 года назад +1

      @@takh6806 I like the jungle environments and tombs in shadow. The exploration aspects are still very strong imo.

    • @po72644
      @po72644 3 года назад

      @@takh6806 I didn't enjoy Shadow very much on my first play through in 2018, but right now it'd actually an amazing game. Some of the levels are incredible, especially the Christian puzzle section of the game. The music is incredible, and it's darker than Rise. Definitely give it a go of you like the other two

  • @34sld
    @34sld 3 года назад +8

    This is only in BC mode with an unlocked FPS.

  • @FEWGEE1
    @FEWGEE1 Год назад +1

    HDR is great in this game on PS5. I cannot stress enough, how much good HDR improves the graphics and atmosphere in games, and it's too often neglected by devs.

  • @blubbntroet
    @blubbntroet 3 года назад +1

    Not so sure about the 900p for Series S 🤔 Played it on XBOX One and Series S without and with 60FPS options and now with the patch. After the patch the image looks way sharper and clearer. Is that resolution or does TAA work better with higher framerates?

    • @raresmacovei8382
      @raresmacovei8382 3 года назад +1

      TAA works by accumulating information from the previous frame. If you now have twice the frames to pull information from, it's implied image will be more stable (or sharper) at 60 fps.

    • @NM-qd3tm
      @NM-qd3tm 3 года назад +1

      From what I can tell, Xbox One and Series S both run at 900p, so same resolution. What you are likely seeing as a better looking image is just higher graphical detail on the Series S. I would imagine that to get this game to run at 30fps ish, and 900p on the One, the settings would have to have been pretty much set to minimum.

    • @blubbntroet
      @blubbntroet 3 года назад

      Thanks to both of you 😊 gues will be a combination of both 😉 Still, it’s been quite an achievement how well it looked on the One. One of the best looking games on this old hardware 🤔

  • @hugominicantv9441
    @hugominicantv9441 3 года назад +9

    Another w for ps5, btw this game is not even next gen but looks better than cyberpunk 🤣

    • @DJWhylafihya
      @DJWhylafihya 3 года назад

      Cyberpunk isn’t next gen either and it’s open world….

    • @hugominicantv9441
      @hugominicantv9441 3 года назад

      @@DJWhylafihya even without bugs, that game is TRASH,

  • @soleswag8177
    @soleswag8177 3 года назад +4

    Hey. Can we get a comparison video of the new DLSS implementation in red dead redemption 2.

  • @NiGHTS1980
    @NiGHTS1980 3 года назад +44

    When are they gonna make a new Tomb Raider? I'm getting Lara Croft withdrawals.

    • @raresmacovei8382
      @raresmacovei8382 3 года назад

      Well, have you played the 2 Lara Croft co-op games? The Android/iOS Lara Croft Go?
      The PS2 version of Underworld, lol?

    • @VaydaladaVodalada
      @VaydaladaVodalada 3 года назад +2

      There’s literally three of them in this series alone, go replay them.

    • @mattspeer01
      @mattspeer01 3 года назад +24

      Crystal Dynamics is too busy adding DLC to the trash Marvel’s Avengers game.

    • @NiGHTS1980
      @NiGHTS1980 3 года назад +2

      @@VaydaladaVodalada Been there, done that.

    • @willf.85
      @willf.85 3 года назад +1

      In terms of the Tomb Raider re-boot series like Rise of the Tomb Raider and Shadow of the Tomb Raider? Yes this is the final game in the series. But i'm sure the devs will make more games that are Tomb Raider. Just gotta wait and see what happens.

  • @gsestream
    @gsestream 8 месяцев назад

    hdmi output in xbox loses all the voice audio, its currently missing, in cut scenes, I assume most of that audio is on the controller output, even if that audio output not being used.

    • @gsestream
      @gsestream 8 месяцев назад

      scratch that, xbox output is 7.1 dobly by default and capturing only 2 channels stereo will cut off all speech sounds from the game.

  • @nikbmasher
    @nikbmasher 3 года назад

    AMAZING VIDEO TOM!!

  • @FKA_Skull
    @FKA_Skull 3 года назад +6

    I can’t help but think frame rate mode could be locked 1440p

    • @High.on.Life_DnB
      @High.on.Life_DnB 3 года назад

      Of course, it could be a locked 1440p at stable 60fps, but they aimed for 4k at 60fps, it's not really a stable 60fps though, especially on XSX. But I doubt they'll bring another update to improve performance mode.

    • @prich0382
      @prich0382 3 года назад

      Dynamic resolution is all both versions needed, why they didn't implement it I have no idea

  • @SalveMonesvol
    @SalveMonesvol 3 года назад +41

    PS5 needs a native 1440p mode

    • @melxb
      @melxb 3 года назад +8

      no because the checkerboarding looks better than the native 1800p mode on the ps4 pro as tom mentioned and showed here 5:30, even here 6:15 against series x it looks nice too...and u get 60fps with it with barely any drops but in that set piece area really

    • @atomickaiser1934
      @atomickaiser1934 3 года назад +1

      @@melxb He's referring to the ps5 not having output at 1440p.

    • @melxb
      @melxb 3 года назад +1

      @@atomickaiser1934 oh ok u may be right, but even with that I'd say not a biggie, there aren't any 1440p tv's besides monitors and most will want to get 4k tv's anyways, so they can get great hdr and all the other features, prices have dropped a lot too, i mean sure options are always great, but it's not really a big deal for the majority

    • @atomickaiser1934
      @atomickaiser1934 3 года назад +1

      @@melxb Yeah but there's loads of 1440p monitors out there. A lot of pc gamers don't use tvs in their gaming set ups. 4k is the least used on pc. Its a whole different beast. It's especially bad when your competitor does 1440p output but you don't. It's not something that should be an option down the road. It's supposed to be standard.

    • @melxb
      @melxb 3 года назад +1

      @@atomickaiser1934 yeah but really it's the minority man

  • @Starlesslemon
    @Starlesslemon 3 года назад +6

    I want some 1440p love from more games.

  • @unclemeat5404
    @unclemeat5404 3 года назад

    Man your voice sounds like Hartman in Death Stranding. Love the the video

  • @evostu7814
    @evostu7814 3 года назад +1

    No ray tracing like the pc version & half 4k resolution on ps5 isn’t exactly great, but it’s still a worthwhile update if you haven’t already played it.

    • @jayking33497
      @jayking33497 3 года назад

      It’s just a backwards compatible update not a full on upgrade

  • @crazyoldschool6342
    @crazyoldschool6342 3 года назад +3

    I would like a new re-release of physicals for the new consoles.

  • @Chimpyboi
    @Chimpyboi 3 года назад +24

    Nice to see PS5 putting down some solid numbers, can't wait for VRR support.

    • @SadMad-vf8og
      @SadMad-vf8og 3 года назад

      ? checkerboard

    • @jayking33497
      @jayking33497 3 года назад +8

      @@SadMad-vf8og god of war 2019 used checkerboard and it’s beautiful game

    • @jg7702
      @jg7702 3 года назад +1

      @@jayking33497 but wasn't the previous gen all about power when 900p for the one was unacceptable? Funny how things change.

    • @pennywisethedancingclown7139
      @pennywisethedancingclown7139 3 года назад +5

      @@SadMad-vf8og performance > resolution = said everyone

    • @jayking33497
      @jayking33497 3 года назад +1

      @@jg7702 no previous gen was not about power for Xbox it was about power but for PlayStation they want their performance better

  • @xikaryo6735
    @xikaryo6735 3 года назад +8

    Better performance on PS5 as expected. I’m liking this trend of PS5 games running smoother. I couldn’t care less about native 4K, it adds nothing to the experience. Frame rate is more important.

    • @andrewallen446
      @andrewallen446 3 года назад +1

      With a TV that supports VRR, you're not going to notice the frame rate drops and are getting native 4K on XSX in Resolution Mode. In saying that, I'd still be in favour of dynamic resolution or checkerboarding for those people without a compatible TV.

    • @SuperCandelo
      @SuperCandelo 3 года назад

      Jajajajajjaja

    • @xikaryo6735
      @xikaryo6735 3 года назад

      @@andrewallen446 VRR doesn’t eliminate frame rate issues. They’re still in the game. Your TV just tries to hide them and it doesn’t always work if the drops are bad.

    • @andrewallen446
      @andrewallen446 3 года назад

      @@xikaryo6735 yeah I didn't mean it would eliminate the drops... just that you wouldn't notice them *as much* (I could have worded it better)
      However it'll differ person to person as some can really notice frame rate drops, even if it's minor, others can't. I'll be honest, I'm not as suspectible as others to resolution/graphical differences and frame rate drops unless it's quite obvious!

    • @xikaryo6735
      @xikaryo6735 3 года назад +1

      @@andrewallen446 Yeah I agree there. VRR is coming to PS5 in November or so. Will be a great thing to have. I just wish more developers would realize the importance of consistently good frame rate. 60fps should be standard by now. I’m not impressed by 30fps games that have ray-tracing. That’s why I love what Insomniac did giving Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart 40fps with ray-tracing and high res.

  • @apenasumcanal3271
    @apenasumcanal3271 3 года назад

    What happened to the outro?
    It wasnt in the past video either

  • @jesseshaver2262
    @jesseshaver2262 2 года назад +1

    yall really need to start saying what checkerboard rendering means per specific game

  • @dk06ctr
    @dk06ctr 3 года назад +3

    Well thats in contrast to other comparisons its running 3712 x 2088p according to them not the same 2016p sooo... who is correct here I've played before and after patch and its definitely better with patch so not sure whats going off here.

    • @nattila7713
      @nattila7713 3 года назад

      you noticed the extra 60p right? lol, liar

    • @dk06ctr
      @dk06ctr 3 года назад

      @@nattila7713 thats on one axis there's two to a resolution what a plonker 🤣

    • @nattila7713
      @nattila7713 3 года назад

      @@dk06ctr anyway, its about some pixels. who cares? you cant notice them when playing.... important is if it is 1080p or 1440p oe 1800p or 2160p. knowing the exact number is pointless :) a rough estimation or average is good enough to know/imagine how it would look

  • @MostlyPennyCat
    @MostlyPennyCat 3 года назад +11

    It's the little things that are impressing me this generation with Microsoft.
    Clear 'enhanced for X|S' labels where on Sony's OS you're reduced to reading through the patch notes.
    As a software engineer by trade it's the extra steps like this which moves your product to the head of the pack.

    • @aobrien_
      @aobrien_ 3 года назад +5

      So true. As an owner of both consoles SX is the clear better next generation machine. No contest at the minute.

    • @pikey5449
      @pikey5449 3 года назад +2

      @@aobrien_ how? Ps5 is on top, adaptive triggers, haptic feeeback, 3D audio, games, and runs better.

    • @paulmaloney4387
      @paulmaloney4387 3 года назад +1

      @@pikey5449 GamePass, Xcloud, stronger hardware, consumer friendly hardware, consumer friendly services, wider variety of games, easier to crossplay with friends, etc. the list goes on and on. Sony rested on their laurels this gen

    • @thekrustaceox5181
      @thekrustaceox5181 3 года назад

      9:02 lul

    • @pikey5449
      @pikey5449 3 года назад

      @@paulmaloney4387 Xss and xsx is basically and Improved Xbox 1 x x

  • @vv1475
    @vv1475 3 года назад +4

    Checkerboarderd 4k+60fps>>>>>>>>>> native 4k Less performance

  • @TheOldest
    @TheOldest 3 года назад +2

    If Series X is running at native res I don't understand why they didn't consider DRS as an option to preserve framerate

    • @solachesis451
      @solachesis451 3 года назад +2

      Because that involves implementing it. Literally all they did was remove the 30fps cap. They didn't change anything besides that. It's more akin to an fps boost patch, than it is a next gen optimisation

    • @TheOldest
      @TheOldest 3 года назад

      Considering Microsoft already did an FPS Boost on their own it makes the Series update virtually pointless. PS5 update clearly had way more effort involved, checkerboard rendering to 4K from a lower base resolution, versus changing the frame rate of the Xbox version and no other changes or attempts to optimize. The clear one sided effort is rather questionable.

  • @InternalPrimate06
    @InternalPrimate06 3 года назад +1

    Great vid👍