Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order: PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S - Full Next-Gen Release Tested

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
  • A final look at the full next-gen release of Fallen Order - a proper PS5 and Series X app that takes advantage of each in myriad ways. From visual upgrades to halved loading times, and performance boosts, Tom covers what's included.
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  • @soldier91
    @soldier91 3 года назад +1434

    These drops happen on a PC with a 3080, 5800x, and pcie gen4 ssd. There's definitely an issue with the engine in this game.

    • @Sims64340
      @Sims64340 3 года назад +26

      No problem with 8700K 1070 and HDD.

    • @moresarmsmorequalms7901
      @moresarmsmorequalms7901 3 года назад +61

      No issues for me with 9090, 8500x, and a pcie gen220 ssd

    • @brettcarlson5450
      @brettcarlson5450 3 года назад +343

      @@Sims64340 i mean yes there is. It is an unreal engine issue. It happens in many unreal games. You not testing the game front to back. Dont lie

    • @jetthejudge
      @jetthejudge 3 года назад +4

      Same my good sir

    • @coruviel
      @coruviel 3 года назад +24

      Well that’s unreal for ya, hoping it’s fixed with their next iteration.

  • @foopock
    @foopock 3 года назад +184

    *Frame drops from 60 to 56*
    "There is a great disturbance in the force"

    • @koolk2115
      @koolk2115 3 года назад

      Lol!

    • @jonuiuc1
      @jonuiuc1 3 года назад +3

      not if you have a VRR display.

    • @maugod6972
      @maugod6972 3 года назад +11

      @@jonuiuc1 he is joking about how they make it look like it is unacceptable lol

  • @funkyronin8694
    @funkyronin8694 3 года назад +311

    Now all we need is an option setting for dismemberment

    • @M1d32
      @M1d32 3 года назад +58

      Disney: No

    • @funkyronin8694
      @funkyronin8694 3 года назад +10

      @@M1d32 They didn't put it in because they wanted to be seen as virtuous, I bet it wouldn't have been that big of a deal to the sensitives. Only a few Nutheads would've complained

    • @automata.
      @automata. 3 года назад +11

      @@funkyronin8694 I imagine parents are the biggest factor in this. Disney wants to be seen as pure as possible, even with violent content like in videogames

    • @DEVILTAZ35
      @DEVILTAZ35 3 года назад

      That was to get rating low enough that it sold 20 million units lol. It is annoying though hey :)

    • @The_Mad_King_Aerys
      @The_Mad_King_Aerys 3 года назад +2

      Yeah it's pathetic. We had it nearly 20 years ago in jedi academy. Just made for kids now and the exact reason I didn't get this game.

  • @somatyk
    @somatyk 3 года назад +477

    My laziness at clearing my backlog is actually turning out to be of benefit on PS5. Nice work Tom.

    • @somatyk
      @somatyk 3 года назад +4

      @@WKSnacks Definitely. I'm going to sit tight on a few games now in the hope they get updates.

    • @treywar25
      @treywar25 3 года назад +5

      Yeah Xbox started that in 2015 I think. Backwards compatibility improvements are always nice

    • @umbrellacorp1173
      @umbrellacorp1173 3 года назад +14

      I added a new catch to my backlog, if it has ps5 update, goes up on the list

    • @teddyholiday8038
      @teddyholiday8038 3 года назад +4

      I plat’d this game on PS5 last week. Great game with great graphics. I was curious, so afterward I loaded the PS4 Pro version and it felt like they look and perform very similarly. I was shocked how good the PS4 version looks on PS5. I dunno if it’s just a great looking game no matter what.

    • @leiflala
      @leiflala 3 года назад +18

      Kinda... I mean I wish Sony had more games updated with FPS increases like Xbox do with FPS Boost with a tonne of titles

  • @MrEditsCinema
    @MrEditsCinema 3 года назад +630

    My high end PC has the exact frame time loading stutters. That's unreal engine for you lol

    • @_Chad_ThunderCock
      @_Chad_ThunderCock 3 года назад +55

      Really now? You should know it's likely more to do with the devs than the engine. There are games that are well optimised that use unreal engine.

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus 3 года назад +57

      @@_Chad_ThunderCock There's no reason the engine couldn't include automatically adjusting tools for setting streaming parameters. If it's a common problem with one engine and not most, it's an engine problem.

    • @lexsanderz
      @lexsanderz 3 года назад +21

      Sounds like unreal doesn't know to utilize the new storage APIs. Cuz on consoles the storage has custom sillicon worth multiple cores of processing power dealing with streaming assets. But on PC everything is done by the general purpose CPU. They haven't adapted the code, like Morales can load anything anywhere without drops.

    • @CaptToilet
      @CaptToilet 3 года назад +26

      @@_Chad_ThunderCock If it is the devs then there are a lot of stupid devs out there. Most of my UE4 titles are stutter fests. Not unplayable by any means but it can be really annoying. I am fairly confident that UE5 will be just as stuttery as UE4.

    • @Cirilius011185
      @Cirilius011185 3 года назад +6

      Good thing EA didn’t use the Frostbite engine 😅

  • @WDeranged
    @WDeranged 3 года назад +221

    Loading stutters in the Unreal engine? Why I never!

    • @itsd0nk
      @itsd0nk 3 года назад +2

      I thought it runs on a modified source engine just like all of Respawns games. It’s impressively not source enginey looking, if it is.

    • @prich0382
      @prich0382 3 года назад +9

      @@itsd0nk It's Unreal Engine 4

    • @zybch
      @zybch 3 года назад +5

      @@prich0382 Yep. EA tried to force Respawn to use Frostbite but that studio is so good they have been allowed to use whatever engines they want, including source and UE rather to have their stuff shoehorned into Frostbite which is great for some genres but terrible for others.

    • @snchez2106
      @snchez2106 3 года назад +2

      @@zybch Still, Frosbite would have saved this game from most stutter, if not all of it, UE4 if not used properly will end up causing this stuff.

    • @snchez2106
      @snchez2106 3 года назад +2

      @@itsd0nk No, it's UE4, only UE4 has major asset streaming issues.

  • @dualshark117
    @dualshark117 3 года назад +443

    I hope Mafia trilogy recieves a next gen Patch

    • @brewski535
      @brewski535 3 года назад +49

      I'd be happy with just a FPS boost

    • @vincentclark8386
      @vincentclark8386 3 года назад +15

      I popped in Mafia 3 yesterday and that game is rough which is unfortunate cuz the story kind of intriguing even if it is generic

    • @Peightun
      @Peightun 3 года назад +26

      Its published by 2k so thats not happening without a payment

    • @cdmwwf
      @cdmwwf 3 года назад +7

      Facts!! I still haven't played it because I don't wanna play at 30 fps

    • @tinmanslickgreasy999
      @tinmanslickgreasy999 3 года назад +5

      So true... that would be a awesome thing to at least get it to 60 on the ps5 and SX! Maybe one day!

  • @warweeny5127
    @warweeny5127 3 года назад +114

    The random framedrops are also present on PC.

    • @DEVILTAZ35
      @DEVILTAZ35 3 года назад +3

      Why would they use Unreal Engine 4 if they are not competent enough to modify it to iron out these issues in the first place?. Gears 5 is perfectly smooth on both console and PC.

    • @Anonymous-Wolf
      @Anonymous-Wolf 3 года назад +1

      Specially when loading new scenes

    • @zaxmaxlax
      @zaxmaxlax 3 года назад +3

      @@DEVILTAZ35 Because gears is a totally different game.

    • @coolertuep
      @coolertuep 3 года назад +2

      @@DEVILTAZ35 respawns latest game „medal of honor above and beyoned“ is running on UE4 as well but doesn’t have that stutter, it’s something with this game I guess

    • @saputrasaputra3347
      @saputrasaputra3347 3 года назад

      laugh on my RTX 3080 Ti

  • @kirk-daroostergordon9961
    @kirk-daroostergordon9961 3 года назад +168

    Had it for the Xbox One X was only 30% in so I'm happy I get to play the Next-gen upgrade on my Xbox Series X

    • @TLOWNSU
      @TLOWNSU 3 года назад +7

      You buy that xbox one x star wars bundle too lol

    • @PhilosopherJEB
      @PhilosopherJEB 3 года назад +3

      Same story!

    • @alienrapturecoverup
      @alienrapturecoverup 3 года назад +3

      Same

    • @zybch
      @zybch 3 года назад +3

      And same here too.

    • @PhilosopherJEB
      @PhilosopherJEB 3 года назад +4

      @@alienrapturecoverup seeing as how I’m in good company, let me ask you all this - are you all planning to seamlessly pick up where you left off? Or to start over again? Cuz I just started over again and am really digging how amazing it looks so far.

  • @Silikone
    @Silikone 3 года назад +110

    It ain't a real Fallen Order video without The Hu playing somewhere in the background.

    • @MisterCasket
      @MisterCasket 3 года назад +6

      Yuve yuve yu! 🤘

    • @MedalionDS9
      @MedalionDS9 3 года назад +2

      Who? No... Hu. Who? Not The Who... HU... ... Who Hu?

    • @wombat7961
      @wombat7961 3 года назад +2

      The Hu is the only redeeming factor of this game...

  • @Jpilgrim30
    @Jpilgrim30 3 года назад +27

    May have to play through this game again. This was one of my favorite games in the last few years.

  • @vanx0u
    @vanx0u 3 года назад +12

    Great work as always Tom!

  • @Archuro25
    @Archuro25 3 года назад +323

    I love this game so much, I can't wait for the sequel.

    • @SaItyToad00
      @SaItyToad00 3 года назад +12

      No

    • @HackEliteSPARK
      @HackEliteSPARK 3 года назад +10

      No sequel game trash

    • @A7XKoRnRocks1
      @A7XKoRnRocks1 3 года назад +81

      Same, its one of the best Star Wars game made recently in a long long while.

    • @playmaker451
      @playmaker451 3 года назад +38

      Totally ready for the sequel myself as I love the first game

    • @Zeegoku1007
      @Zeegoku1007 3 года назад +18

      @@HackEliteSPARK
      No you trash...😂

  • @Kristoferpalmestal
    @Kristoferpalmestal 3 года назад +19

    This is one of my favorite games from the last couple of years. Nice to see it supported, hopefully more players takes the chance ro enjoy it now.

  • @simonrockstream
    @simonrockstream 3 года назад

    Was waiting for this video!! Thanks!!

  • @Schnyger
    @Schnyger 3 года назад +40

    Really excited to see what Respawn does with the sequel. Considering how different this game was from their previous work, it's very impressive how well it turned out. If they can tighten up a few spots, improve the boss fights, and add just a little more customization, I think the sequel could make a run for the best SW game of all time.

    • @turri8577
      @turri8577 3 года назад +1

      To take that title from kotor in my pov they would really have to make an impressive history! you know something that blow our minds big time!

    • @apictureoffunction
      @apictureoffunction Год назад +2

      Agreed. For instance, I mostly like the traversal, but I feel like it could definitely be made to feel more smooth/fluid, and sometimes even when locked on in combat, Cal will rarely attack in a wrong direction.
      I think there's a ton of potential though as the game was really fun, I just hope we don't have to relearn all of the powers and skills we unlocked in tbe first game.

    • @MohdAsif-Alpha
      @MohdAsif-Alpha Год назад

      ​@@apictureoffunction we have to, i think 😢

    • @apictureoffunction
      @apictureoffunction Год назад +2

      @@MohdAsif-Alpha no we don't. The developers have said that Cal will start with all the force powers he had by the end of the first game

    • @emporioalnino4670
      @emporioalnino4670 7 месяцев назад

      You were right. Barring the offensively poor performance it was a fantastic game and some of the best Star Wars media ever.

  • @mononoke721
    @mononoke721 3 года назад +128

    Man, if I wasn't such a big Star Wars nerd it would have paid to wait a year and a half and play this now, as this did not run brilliantly on a base PS4 back in November 2019 I can tell ya! Gonna have to replay this at some point along with Ghost of Tsushima, as replaying God of War recently in all its glory was a real joy. Then there's Control, Metro Exodus and Last of Us Part II still to play for the first time! In terms of graphical and performance fidelity and the sheer scope of experiences, I don't think there's been a better time to be a console gamer primarily.
    Sure, everything is better on PC (when it works) but for the price and convenience, these are really great machines - here's hoping though that full next-gen games can continue to deliver high benchmarks for most of the generation, as set by the likes of Demon's Souls and Ratchet and Clank as examples.

    • @ivanleon6164
      @ivanleon6164 3 года назад +20

      i just played God Of war for first time, in PS5. and it has been mind blowing for me. i didn't had the fortune to have a PS4 and I have tons of games to play, been in a buy spree of used games lol.

    • @TheRabidRabbi29
      @TheRabidRabbi29 3 года назад +12

      @@ivanleon6164 same here, man. I completely skipped the PS4/XB1 generation (late PS3/XB360 gen as well), it's amazing always having something new to play, and economical as hell with how cheap last gen games tend to get.

    • @iebreakerkraken4069
      @iebreakerkraken4069 3 года назад

      I think control is very lame on the ps5. It's very blurry on 60fps mode.

    • @DirEnGay
      @DirEnGay 3 года назад +2

      Yeah I played this game on PC no regrets, I've been slacking on PS4 and Xbox One games since around 2016 because I hated the idea of buying the console again to play at higher resolution (PS4 Pro / One X), and it just felt like a spit in the face for the base model owners. I upgraded my PC instead and played this game, Detroit Become Human and Horizon Zero Dawn. I have picked up a PS5 and Series X though so I'm glad I waited to get to play all of the great games like Ratchet & Clank 2016, God of War, Ghost of Tsushima, The Last of Us Part 2, and about a dozen more games lol. This year has been honestly great for games, but still people have done nothing but complain it feels like. So many people convinced themselves not to bother with a next gen console. I wonder how long that will last though.
      It's your choice at the end of the day if you want to play the game again on next gen system, personally I don't really like re-playing games I already completed after I'm done with them.

    • @MrStefanirock
      @MrStefanirock 3 года назад +3

      I actually agree as well with the ps5 and Xbox u basically getting an optimised super fastpc for 500 bucks better deal anyday !!!

  • @SwatBeatsOfficial
    @SwatBeatsOfficial 3 года назад +7

    Crazy that you posted this. I just started replaying this badass game on my PS5 and it is beautiful

  • @ardayaman22
    @ardayaman22 3 года назад

    thank you so much for the detailed inspection

  • @TheRealOne24
    @TheRealOne24 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video. I would have liked some commentary on the tradeoffs for which mode we should play on, like how you did with the Ratchet and Clank video. That was helpful

  • @TurnaboutAdam
    @TurnaboutAdam 3 года назад +49

    I played the game on PS5 when it was updated. Pretty glad I didn’t wait (though I assumed they wouldn’t do a proper version after already doing a next gen update) considering the small hitches are still there. I remember loading times being bad though, so that’s probably the best upgrade overall.

  • @GregPolkinghorne
    @GregPolkinghorne 3 года назад +7

    Performance mode on One X was much better than playing 30fps. Could barely notice the loss in resolution but in combat you could really feel the increased frame rate. I found parrying a lot easier at the higher fps. Never finished the game, so nice that it got another upgrade upgrade SX

  • @Yarondif
    @Yarondif 3 года назад +1

    love this game so much! thanks you for your work! you guys are awesome!

  • @purikanbamroongsuk8867
    @purikanbamroongsuk8867 3 года назад +1

    for ps5 resolution mode, does the game hit native 4k almost or all the time here? or what resolution does it mostly hit with Dynamic Resolution Scaling (DRS)? Thanks!

  • @digitalgehn
    @digitalgehn 3 года назад +31

    Replaying this on both my XSX and PS5, and both fantastic experiences!

    • @sugarray1345
      @sugarray1345 3 года назад +2

      Do you have a preference buddy? Which one performs better? And is it better with the DualSense controller? Thank you.

    • @digitalgehn
      @digitalgehn 3 года назад +14

      @@sugarray1345 I've been playing both on performance mode, and they look and perform virtually identical. I'm on an LG CX, so freesync does help ensure buttery smooth gameplay on the XSX version, since it's compatible. Unfortunately, PS5 does not support that feature yet. The PS5 version does support haptic feedback, though, through the DualSense...like having a more gentle vibration when landing from a jump, and feeling tiny taps in tandem with Cal's footsteps when sprinting.

    • @sugarray1345
      @sugarray1345 3 года назад +13

      @@digitalgehnThanks for the info dude. I’m grateful. I’m edging towards the PS5 after seeing the latest Ratchet and Clank game and the Horizon Forbidden West reveal. Amazing! I also really like the look of the Dual Sense controller. I’ll probably get a Series X, but further down the line. Thank you again my brother. 🙏🏻

  • @umbrellacorp1173
    @umbrellacorp1173 3 года назад +18

    What a coincidence, I just started playing it looking good so far.

    • @juanchitocruz
      @juanchitocruz 3 года назад

      This game is amazing, enjoy it 😉👍🏿

    • @tomfly7064
      @tomfly7064 3 года назад

      Yeah its slow at first but stick with it and you'll ve rewarded.

  • @SAVAGE-GAMER-
    @SAVAGE-GAMER- 3 года назад +1

    I really appreciate you make these videos for us..I had a request out if curiosity..would you compare Terminator Resistance on PS4 pro vs PS5? I just got my PS5 collectors edition from LRG and was wondering how much more it's been improved.

  • @hypercombo7202
    @hypercombo7202 3 года назад +1

    Been waiting for this one. 🙌

  • @mylesx.d.5963
    @mylesx.d.5963 3 года назад +60

    I love this game so much. 100% completed the whole game and can’t wait for the sequel

    • @daggermouth4695
      @daggermouth4695 Год назад

      It's been a little bit but the sequel is here, did you get survivor ?

  • @vincevirtua
    @vincevirtua 3 года назад +40

    I’ve found the 30fps 4K a bit jittery. Performance mode is King here.

    • @69metersbelow25
      @69metersbelow25 3 года назад +22

      Performance mode is always king.30fps just doesn't get the job done for me.4k 60 is the way to go

    • @Ward413
      @Ward413 3 года назад

      Yeah I felt the same way. It’s like the refresh rate is brought down to 30hz along with the framerate when not in performance mode. I also noticed input lag when not using the Performance Mode, making combat even more rage inducing.

    • @sonumistry8577
      @sonumistry8577 3 года назад +6

      @@69metersbelow25 games like ratchet and clank and spiderman has one of the best 30fps available.
      Whereas games like control and fallen order 's combat is better at higher framerate.

  • @HughTolland
    @HughTolland 3 года назад +1

    Great video Mr Morgan. Insightful and balanced.

  • @crazzy24kane
    @crazzy24kane 3 года назад +1

    Is this an official PS5/XSX upgrade? Does it take advantage of the hepatic/adaptive triggers? Or anything else?

  • @raw687
    @raw687 3 года назад +21

    The audio being out of sync in cutscenes is still rampant on the ps5. Really detracts from the cinematic experience

    • @mog_3825
      @mog_3825 3 года назад +1

      It's the game engine because that shit happens on my series s as well

  • @E_Sunbro
    @E_Sunbro 3 года назад +21

    To be fair, the PC version also stutters at the transition points when the game loads new assets for the next area. I even had a hard 10 second hang on Kashyyyk when heading down to the lower level of the map on my playthrough. My guess is Respawn was just getting used to working with Unreal.

    • @ea-sk8er_775
      @ea-sk8er_775 3 года назад +2

      Truth I think that might just be an unreal thing. Many unreal games in the past have had huge stutter issues, games like the arkham series and even something like bioshock infinite. Definitely could also be a case of Respawn getting used to unreal, but yeah it's been an unreal issue for a while now. One thing that definitely helps on PC is having it on an SSD. That helped for me anyway.

    • @Speeff
      @Speeff 3 года назад

      Wasn't Apex Legends made on Unreal?

    • @E_Sunbro
      @E_Sunbro 3 года назад +1

      @@ea-sk8er_775 I run everything on SSDs. Granted they were SATA at the time.

    • @ea-sk8er_775
      @ea-sk8er_775 3 года назад

      @@Speeff No it was made on Valve's source engine just like Titanfall 2.
      Edit** Also Titanfall 1 was also made on Valve's source engine.

    • @E_Sunbro
      @E_Sunbro 3 года назад

      @@Speeff If it's anything like Titanfall, it's made with a highly modified Source Engine.

  • @toutagamon
    @toutagamon 2 года назад +1

    what settings do they use compared to the PC?

  • @Pinkeye69
    @Pinkeye69 3 года назад +2

    I was hoping for a screenshot comparison, as the series s version seems slightly blurry compared to other versions, it maybe a upscaling issue as other games have it as well when rendered at 1080p

  • @AndyGilleand
    @AndyGilleand 3 года назад +39

    I wonder why so many last gen games that use DRS have a maximum resolution. DRS, by definition, can allow for potentially unlimited resolutions as performance increases. Why cap that? There was all this talk in the past about how games could automatically adapt to better hardware with tools like this, but that's not the case when they stupidly cap it.
    Sure it's nice to see a more complete upgrade, but if they had done DRS right, it might not have been as necessary.

    • @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
      @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 2 года назад

      It's probably capped to keep the resolution from fluctuating like crazy.

    • @AndyGilleand
      @AndyGilleand 2 года назад +1

      @@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe why not let it? If it goes above screen resolution you'd probably never notice it, but it would allow future systems to run it at better quality.

    • @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
      @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 2 года назад

      @@AndyGilleand I suppose that's true. A lot of games are 100% locked to 60fps with a max resolution that is being hit most of the time so they do have a lot of headroom. But my console is a series S so on that machine the Drs values usually make a lot of sense

    • @SeanUCF
      @SeanUCF 2 года назад +3

      It's less taxing on the hardware and less visually jarring to drop from say 1440p to 1080p than 4k to 1080.

  • @Kekoapono
    @Kekoapono 3 года назад +49

    It is somewhat strange that the SSDs couldn’t be fully utilized to provide smooth data streaming between areas.

    • @DEVILTAZ35
      @DEVILTAZ35 3 года назад +4

      All they did was use the new SDK, Though obviously not the newest integration , They didn't re-write it for Series X :) .

    • @kasonligas6744
      @kasonligas6744 Год назад +1

      It wasnt made for the series x and ps5 ssd’s. Hopefully the new fallen order game will be

  • @waleedaljaber7989
    @waleedaljaber7989 3 года назад

    thank you Thomas for update.

  • @ikj2673
    @ikj2673 3 года назад +1

    Yes, this area traversal lag happens in the pc version too. I also installed it on a really high speed ssd, but still has the issue. This is a game engine issue the developers have not implemented the best methods to stream assets in background.

  • @ComicsLamar
    @ComicsLamar 3 года назад +35

    The PS5/X update feels like the definitive version.

    • @marcelo4721-w1i
      @marcelo4721-w1i 3 года назад +7

      Laughs in PC Master race

    • @ComicsLamar
      @ComicsLamar 3 года назад +13

      @@marcelo4721-w1i I have the PC version too.

    • @xikaryo6735
      @xikaryo6735 3 года назад +38

      @@marcelo4721-w1i PC version suffers from the same random performance issues and PC players spent over $2,000 on their PCs. There is no PC “master race.” Also funny how PC version doesn’t load faster than these versions. Imagine paying that much to build a machine that crashes and loads slower lmao.

    • @ThDragoomba
      @ThDragoomba 3 года назад +29

      @@marcelo4721-w1i u pc elitists are cringe af

    • @FMG_MADLOO87
      @FMG_MADLOO87 3 года назад +3

      @@xikaryo6735 a pc does more than game though... A 2k pc does more than ur 500 console... Same energy

  • @rickjamesia
    @rickjamesia 3 года назад +7

    Interesting. That still seems like one the longest load times I’ve seen in a native PS5 game other than Godfall. I’ve only tried about 17 at this point, though.
    Game is looking pretty great though. Glad I waited for the update.

    • @samuelcunningham7045
      @samuelcunningham7045 3 года назад +2

      It’s jus a native update, the game wasn’t designed for the ps5 hardware in mind, take the new ratchet and clank for example built from the ground up for ps5, there isn’t any loading at all, that game is blazing fast

    • @p3wx4
      @p3wx4 3 года назад

      Metro Exodus?

    • @nongmaithemavinash3977
      @nongmaithemavinash3977 3 года назад +1

      @@samuelcunningham7045 yeah RE:VII too the loading is like a blink of an eye.

  • @automatik25
    @automatik25 3 года назад +1

    Great video.

  • @Bobi816
    @Bobi816 3 года назад +2

    Love the improvements visually….audio wise I’m still disappointed in that there’s still lip sync issues in certain cutscenes…PLUS switching the audio from stereo to headphone to 5.1 to 7.1 doesn’t seem to make any difference and its unclear whether this takes use of PS5’s tempest 3D audio for headphones or Xbox’s Dolby Atmos for headphones.

  • @solidsnack2757
    @solidsnack2757 3 года назад +9

    Back ground streaming is a UE4 issue, its a problem in almost every UE4 game across PC and console. And this is a persistent legacy issue thats never been fully addressed from UE3

    • @MrVelociraptor75
      @MrVelociraptor75 3 года назад +1

      Presumably it'll be a focus for UE5, so hopefully, it will be fixed for future games forever

  • @ScottCastle
    @ScottCastle 3 года назад +4

    I just wish that the texture streaming was fixed.

  • @DravicPL
    @DravicPL 3 года назад +2

    Will we get a video breakdown of LEGO Builder's Journey RTX? It comes out tomorrow on PC (Steam and Epic I believe). It is one of the first Unity 3D games utilizing raytracing and it looks absolutely stunning, really chill and relaxing game with puzzles for all ages. Has DLSS etc

  • @RobCabreraCh
    @RobCabreraCh 3 года назад

    It took me about halfway through the video to realize that Tom did this video. I thought he had left DF because lately I only see Rick, John, and Alex. Glad to see Tom here!

  • @CarbonCopy4V
    @CarbonCopy4V 3 года назад +79

    Every time I play the first two levels I think that a linear, super streamlined uncharted type star wars game would be a perfect fit, I really like fallen order and how it is structured but I would like to see what they could do if they go the cinematic uncharted route

    • @NickCheng93
      @NickCheng93 2 года назад +13

      A lot of people like the open map style, but I agree with you, I'm a big linear game guy and would have liked a nice story to walk through with some satisfying combat

    • @THEODSTKING117
      @THEODSTKING117 2 года назад +5

      that was what star wars 1313 would've been

  • @trebm3
    @trebm3 3 года назад +12

    glad this game has been continually updated as it ran so bad on last gen enhanced consoles.

  • @djnfbrhkelkondwvb6853
    @djnfbrhkelkondwvb6853 3 года назад +2

    Popped this game in today on my Xbox One S and boy was there more issues than I remember. Huge frame dips, textures popping in during cutscenes, whole parts of the map not rendered, snail speed loading times. Fun game just not as fun with last gen hardware so it’s good to see this update

  • @D71219ONE
    @D71219ONE 3 года назад +2

    9:30
    “He’s escaping! Oh no! Anyway…”

  • @JFPlayeRsDream
    @JFPlayeRsDream 3 года назад +135

    I'm so glad we're getting free updates instead of getting those stupid 60 bucks "Remaster" we used to get in the previous gen, especially with the PS4...
    EDIT: OH MY GOD. *YES!* Microsoft did it too, so does Nintendo. That wasn't the point of the comment. There, you happy now? You can all calm down, put the fanboy crap away. That's not what I meant. My point was and still is: Anti aliasing, unlocking the frame rate and a little boost in saturation shouldn't cost 60 quids.
    I brought up the PS4 because it's the one that came to my mind the most. Especially The Last Of Us. THAT'S IT! I'm a happy Series S owner but before that, I was mostly a PC player. I don't care about your console wars.
    Christ, some of you are unsofferable.

    • @leonthesleepy
      @leonthesleepy 3 года назад +18

      exactly. Sony has been giving us these low effort "remasters" for a quick buck. Heck, i would argue they are still trying to do that shit with Spiderman Remastered. I mean look at Metro Exodus, it has a much more substantial upgrade that was free.

    • @dondavid822
      @dondavid822 3 года назад +16

      Halo MCC==broken 80$ remaster, years of broke multiplayer
      At least PlayStation games have quality

    • @alexisacunaramos5804
      @alexisacunaramos5804 3 года назад +32

      80$? More like 10$ that's what I paid for it in 2016 and that includes 4 games. Also free with game pass. These ponys are hilarious 😂

    • @StayFractalesque
      @StayFractalesque 3 года назад +13

      ps3 games had to be 'remastered' for ps4 because the inherent differences between the hardwares.. the ps3 architecture required a completely different code base and couldn't run on a ps4, thats really the only reason.. because ps4 and ps5s are the same architecture, it's much easier to cross gen these older games.. but i agree 💯 its a treat this gen to get all these free updates

    • @nicholasharfield8780
      @nicholasharfield8780 3 года назад +9

      @@leonthesleepy Spider-Man Remastered wasn't awful, it was an extra £20, and it was high quality. Not free, sure, but it wasn't bad, especially as a PS5 incentive

  • @Blessindisguise
    @Blessindisguise 3 года назад +10

    Btw Activision finally patched in 120hz on Modern Warfare for PS5 maybe do a look back at how stable it is!

    • @or1on89
      @or1on89 3 года назад

      1080p/120...is going to be super stable without need for a review :P

    • @santhoshsridhar5887
      @santhoshsridhar5887 3 года назад +2

      @@or1on89 Yes and no. Was surprisingly unstable on XSX. Gotta see a framerate test tho too small to make a full video on.

    • @Blessindisguise
      @Blessindisguise 3 года назад

      @@santhoshsridhar5887 yeah XSX that graph was all over the place lol. I was shocked. So to see maybe an updated stability test would be interesting.

    • @santhoshsridhar5887
      @santhoshsridhar5887 3 года назад +1

      @@Blessindisguise Yeah, I guess the ps5 patch is using the console's full native power as it's running at 2736x1536p and only drops sometimes to 1372x1536p while barely ever dropping to 119fps.

  • @nnnnoob
    @nnnnoob 3 года назад

    Great video! Any chance you guys have a DF review of STALKER 2, and its currently available footage? The game looks insane.

  • @gabryjel15011984
    @gabryjel15011984 3 года назад

    There is any differences except resolution between performance and quality mode? Like better shadows or textures.

  • @phillipcesar
    @phillipcesar 3 года назад +7

    Hoping for a sequence for this masterpiece.

    • @Mike-mc5ll
      @Mike-mc5ll 3 года назад +2

      It's mediocre, c'mon.

    • @javedalam5549
      @javedalam5549 3 года назад +2

      @@Mike-mc5ll Enjoyment of videogames is inherently subjective. Any dark souls fan who played this game would love it. You don't like it. That's fine. In fact it's good. If everyone liked the same thing, we'd all be playing the same game, or at least the same genre of games, which would be boring AF.

  • @dorondavid4698
    @dorondavid4698 3 года назад +4

    What still bugs me is when you open loot boxes under water, Cal acts as if bb-8 left his shoulder but he never did; the box shakes like he's inside too!

    • @DEVILTAZ35
      @DEVILTAZ35 3 года назад +1

      That is funny :). I like how you can avoid some large monsters and open short cuts too. Some are a chore to fight early on.

    • @dorondavid4698
      @dorondavid4698 3 года назад +1

      @@DEVILTAZ35 the stupid f*in toad in the first area I must've tried like 30x and then gave up. Went back when powered up and whooped his ass good 😂

  • @solidsnake5700
    @solidsnake5700 3 года назад

    Is there any support of haptic feedback or the adaptive triggers on ps5?

  • @3KPK3
    @3KPK3 3 года назад

    Tom is my favourite DF member. Good job as usual Tom.

  • @jyotiwaghmare4100
    @jyotiwaghmare4100 3 года назад +13

    Big w for all three consoles, hope they fix the bugs

    • @jhamer18
      @jhamer18 3 года назад +1

      Me too, it's the bugs that made me lose interest because I kept dying or the game completely bugged out.
      Its the bugs that is the only issue with this game... That and its tedious and boring to me after some time

  • @MaGIKzIIx
    @MaGIKzIIx 3 года назад +7

    9:21 a perfect roll over a storm trooper to avoid blaster bolts quality 😂.

  • @theyouth2000
    @theyouth2000 3 года назад

    Nice video comparison and analysis.
    Was hoping that the developers patch up the Wookies' model and fur for next gen. Probably to resemble closer to Star Wars Battlefront II.

  • @overheatedeskim054
    @overheatedeskim054 3 года назад +2

    VG Tech is 100% a DF second channel. I've been watching the 2 channel's for awhile now and i notice they both post the same time they both wait same amount of time between each video and DF have mentioned VG Tech

    • @SimonBuchanNz
      @SimonBuchanNz 3 года назад +2

      Gee I wonder why two channels that review new releases post at the same time?

  • @maybemaybenot8112
    @maybemaybenot8112 3 года назад +3

    This video reminds me I need to finish this game.

  • @alleyday
    @alleyday 3 года назад +6

    I always wondered if these guys ever have actual fun playing videogames...

  • @darkcult99
    @darkcult99 3 года назад +1

    Cool! Thanks.

  • @nikoofrivia6627
    @nikoofrivia6627 3 года назад

    Do you notice any of the drops on Series X|S when using VRR?

  • @wu-bangya4486
    @wu-bangya4486 3 года назад +2

    I'm wondering did they add an Achievement for beating game on hardest difficulty?

  • @teddyholiday8038
    @teddyholiday8038 3 года назад +7

    I plat’d this game on PS5 last week. Great game with great graphics. I was curious, so afterward I loaded the PS4 Pro version and it felt like they look and perform very similarly. I was shocked how good the PS4 version looks on Ps5

    • @ksadik1990
      @ksadik1990 3 года назад

      They had updated the PS4 Version back in January and improved resolution, effects and performance on PS5. The seperate PS5 Version isn't a gigantic leap from the PS5 Enhancements for the current PS4 Version.

    • @ramonterrell1897
      @ramonterrell1897 3 года назад +1

      Just to make sure I have this right. I have the PS4 disk. If I want the native PS5 version I have to buy it? Or are they talking about downloading the PS5 update for the game?

    • @teddyholiday8038
      @teddyholiday8038 3 года назад +2

      @@ramonterrell1897 No its a free upgrade. On the ps5 go to the games menu with three little dots and switch version to ps5 and it will download the ps5 native version for free

    • @ramonterrell1897
      @ramonterrell1897 3 года назад

      @@teddyholiday8038 ok thats what I thought thanks a lot!

    • @teddyholiday8038
      @teddyholiday8038 3 года назад +1

      @@ramonterrell1897 Enjoy

  • @terriblegamer6975
    @terriblegamer6975 3 года назад

    What if you only have 1080p tv, is there any SSAA to improve quality?

  • @mmpsp693
    @mmpsp693 3 года назад

    10:28 what's going on with the background texture?

  • @nathanb5579
    @nathanb5579 2 года назад +3

    So, on ps5 performance mode it still has those hitches? That's the only thing I wanted gone lol

    • @jacquesjtheripper5922
      @jacquesjtheripper5922 Год назад +1

      Yh, i just got a ps5 and im wondering if worth it the ps5 version, or just use the ps4 game in bc mode on ps5, in performance.
      Wont see much of any graphic upgrade anyhow in action i think more from ps5 version.

  • @solo6396
    @solo6396 3 года назад +12

    I wish they would’ve added adaptive trigger functionality. Seems like a huge miss, especially with all the force powers.

  • @FixerUK
    @FixerUK 3 года назад

    At 5:59 where the floor texture looks higher on Series X but at the same time the textures directly behind BD-1 looks lower than One X.

  • @sawdust8691
    @sawdust8691 3 года назад

    Good video. Nice information while getting to watch Cal getting the crap beat out of him by every enemy in the background.😂

  • @lukeglossop19
    @lukeglossop19 3 года назад +6

    Don't think it's enough for me to go back yet, I'm playing metro exodus again anyway though none of my saves carried over for some reason

    • @SomeUnkindledAsh
      @SomeUnkindledAsh 3 года назад +1

      Mine either. I think its because it's a completely different version of the game. Almost like playing a remastered version

    • @lukeglossop19
      @lukeglossop19 3 года назад

      @@SomeUnkindledAsh it's says chapters are carried over but not autosaves, but no chapters was there

    • @SomeUnkindledAsh
      @SomeUnkindledAsh 3 года назад

      @@lukeglossop19 oh, I wasn't aware they said that. I just figured it was a different game so to speak. I was planning on starting over anyway.

    • @lukeglossop19
      @lukeglossop19 3 года назад

      @@SomeUnkindledAsh I wanted to but in new game plus

  • @riverstyx9
    @riverstyx9 Год назад +3

    Nice to see current gen consoles running last gen games like how they should've ran last gen

  • @concinnus
    @concinnus 3 года назад

    All I've been waiting for to do a JGM run on PC is an I/O stutter fix and skippable cutscenes. Is that so much to ask, after a year and a half?

  • @Kerrogann
    @Kerrogann 3 года назад

    You forgot the fact they added too much smoke and fog on some instances, there's a cutscene where Cal is fighting the Inquiisitor woman at the beginning and he runs away to jump on the ship. On PS4/XOX the actionis perfectly visible, on PS5/XSX they added somuch fog that we barely see what happens until Cal is on the ship.

  • @KingScotto.
    @KingScotto. 3 года назад +23

    They could of used the SSD to fix the asset streaming 😔

    • @sethfeldpausch4337
      @sethfeldpausch4337 3 года назад +8

      For real! People often assume that SSDs just improve loading, but they do so much more!

    • @existentialselkath1264
      @existentialselkath1264 3 года назад +9

      Nah, even the pc has the same problem.
      They could have fixed it if they really wanted to, but it's not a simple drive speed issue

    • @KingScotto.
      @KingScotto. 3 года назад

      @@sethfeldpausch4337 SSDs are more important for asset streaming and texture streaming

    • @Elias_g1
      @Elias_g1 3 года назад +1

      No, asset streaming isn't necessarily an SSD problem. It may be a GPU limitation.

    • @KingScotto.
      @KingScotto. 3 года назад

      @@Elias_g1 It's not loading in the next areas fast enough you can see it sometime

  • @ErosMorelli
    @ErosMorelli 3 года назад +4

    Game was pretty good but the in game map was an absolute nightmare 😂

  • @felixgrubshtain4365
    @felixgrubshtain4365 2 года назад +1

    Is it 1440p 60 FPS at performance mode on series x? Looks and plays better then ps5 have both

  • @lugzgaming5074
    @lugzgaming5074 3 года назад

    Will the version you get with the PSN Collection get this Full Next Gen Release?

  • @kurtdewittphoto
    @kurtdewittphoto 3 года назад +13

    I need to stick with this game.. It hasn't grabbed my attention. Still only on the 2nd or 3rd level. Visually stunning game.

    • @teddybear1342
      @teddybear1342 3 года назад +7

      I found it rather boring also.

    • @jimmelton5846
      @jimmelton5846 3 года назад +4

      Same, started very strong and then I was lost and disinterested. I'd like to give it more time.

    • @FJTabb
      @FJTabb 3 года назад +3

      Same here, the game started off so good, but the level designs can get kinda of tedious.

    • @GmodArgentina
      @GmodArgentina 3 года назад +1

      If you divide the game in 4 parts the ones in the middle are shit but the rest is great

    • @little_fluffy_clouds
      @little_fluffy_clouds 3 года назад +3

      I found it very boring in the middle and gave up on it. Disappointing that the lightsaber feels so underpowered, it feels more like battering people with a glowing stick, rather than cutting through them in one hit.

  • @Yadavbrand12-y9u
    @Yadavbrand12-y9u 3 года назад +3

    Shutter on xbox series s not fully optimized

  • @Marqjosh
    @Marqjosh 3 года назад +1

    Since it was on gamepass I gave it a go on my series x really kind of disappointed with the stutters but other than that visually stunning game and the combat is quite enjoyable. 👍👍 thanks for dropping this requested video DF!!

    • @adamtimmins8516
      @adamtimmins8516 Год назад

      Stutters on everything, its engine not console,but compared to last gen it runs so much better on series x as in fps in game play

  • @wolololololol3988
    @wolololololol3988 3 года назад

    Hope you guys test Control again. Apparently the latest updates fixed the majority of the heavier frame drops on all platforms and even got rid of those IO stutters on Xbox consoles.

  • @Schadows77
    @Schadows77 3 года назад +3

    Doesn't really surprise me. The game visuals and perfs have been upgraded, but they didn't the underlying streaming and loading tech just for a remaster.
    As Insomniac dev explained in a previous interview about the tech behind Ratchet & Clank, just using the PS5 storage architecture wasn't enough and they now had problems processing the huge amont of data retrieve from the SSD. Be it because the loading tech isn't multi-threaded enough, or just not made to process so much data in such a short time (even if assisted with dedicated chipsets, it's sometime faster to have data less compressed to load faster XD), some structuring changes are sometimes required to take advantage of the new features and its not always profitable to do that much work (which requires lot of QA too) "just" for a remaster which probably won't increase sales.

  • @xBINARYGODx
    @xBINARYGODx 3 года назад +16

    The game needs a Halo-styled "Loading... Done!" message with a firmer pause - I honestly think those hitches (which appear on all platforms) would go over more easily.

    • @thekrustaceox5181
      @thekrustaceox5181 3 года назад

      what? no. Those messages are annoying

    • @jerchongkong5387
      @jerchongkong5387 3 года назад +5

      @@thekrustaceox5181 nah bro, I don't think a little 'loading' message in a corner is an annoying thing. such an attachment would be useful

  • @Akira-ho9mf
    @Akira-ho9mf 3 года назад

    Hey DF(Alex), will you do a video about Lego Builders Journey. Would be so interesting to have the RTX and other graphical effects analysed.

  • @8BitPuppets
    @8BitPuppets 3 года назад +2

    Tom is a mentor of knowledge

  • @__73__
    @__73__ 3 года назад +3

    i already got platinum man, this game is really good!

    • @NeThsDomain
      @NeThsDomain 3 года назад

      it's a 3/10 platinum though. No difficulty related trophies unfortunately to make it more of a challenge.

    • @__73__
      @__73__ 3 года назад

      @@NeThsDomain i dont get it, my trophy just 100% n i repeat this game 2 times with jedi difficulty, correct me if im wrong....

  • @Nolasco.
    @Nolasco. 3 года назад +5

    Going to buy this for the ps5, the phisical version ofc. Thanks for the video Tom 💕

  • @SITSIndustries
    @SITSIndustries 3 года назад +1

    Oh man I love me some Tom!

  • @kclink1579
    @kclink1579 3 года назад +2

    Last year when I completed twice in a row I can't remember any glitches. (outside of one.)

  • @sablemae8853
    @sablemae8853 3 года назад +4

    I can't wait until we actually get to next gen comparisons instead of these upgraded last gen games. These updates are good but we need to see what these consoles can do on new games

    • @ArthaxtaDaVince777
      @ArthaxtaDaVince777 3 года назад

      Demon Souls is a thing you know...

    • @sablemae8853
      @sablemae8853 3 года назад

      @@ArthaxtaDaVince777 yeah I'm playing it as we speak. I'm talking about a next gen game on that is on both consoles that isn't also on last gen. Just about every third party game is running cross gen or we get upscaled versions like metro or last Jedi. I can't compare demon souls because it's an exclusive

    • @ArthaxtaDaVince777
      @ArthaxtaDaVince777 3 года назад

      @@sablemae8853 Doom Eternal next gen update shows Series X playing at 1800p 120fps while PS5 barely gets 1560p. The difference shouldn't be that big, but maybe it will be more apparent in the future.

    • @sablemae8853
      @sablemae8853 3 года назад

      @@ArthaxtaDaVince777 I don't care about a next gen update. Those aren't full utilization of everything that these consoles can do. I'm talking about a game that's not an update that's not on last gen and only on the new generation. All I want is a full this gen game to compare.

    • @sablemae8853
      @sablemae8853 3 года назад

      @@ArthaxtaDaVince777 don't get me wrong it's nice to have these updates but it doesn't show how fast next gen games can load and we're only getting a makeup job on these updated games.

  • @andrewmartel916
    @andrewmartel916 3 года назад +6

    Having a 1080p monitor I’m glad the resolution and frame rate on the series s is 1080 60

    • @andrewmartel916
      @andrewmartel916 3 года назад

      I also have a series x so I might play it on the 4K tv but it’s like a full hallway away so who knows

    • @stanlee5465
      @stanlee5465 3 года назад

      That's the 'nice' thing about the new consoles/GPUs! As long as I don't upgrade my 'perfectly fine looking' 1080p ~60hz display then I don't really need to upgrade any hardware!
      I can STILL manage 1080p 60fps with MAX settings in most new games, and at worst I can lower settings, or 'settle' for 1080p @ 30fps...

    • @jazzboo46
      @jazzboo46 3 года назад +1

      @@stanlee5465 1080p is fine until you see it on a good 4k display

  • @One21P
    @One21P 3 года назад

    funny thing is I get frame hitches with the new update installed on SSD Series X. Like its loading something for a second.

  • @kismetrina
    @kismetrina 3 года назад +1

    I've been waiting for this!