Resident Evil 2 Remake/ Resident Evil 3 Remake - PS5/ Xbox Series X/S - Current-Gen Patch Review
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- Capcom has released 'next-gen' upgrade patches for Resident Evil 2/3 Remake and indeed Resident Evil 7. Three modes are added - performance, 120Hz and ray tracing - with all three current-gen consoles getting every upgrade. So how does each mode perform on each piece of hardware? Oliver Mackenzie has the details.
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Regardless, good on Capcom for even bothering. And it's always nice to see a solid in-house engine continuing.
If only the PC version of Devil May Cry V could get that treatment. 😭
capcom bothered because of the re4 remaster coming soon. theyre probably testing all this stuff on these older games for re4 since theyre all part of a series
@@visceraeyes525 Good point. Plus, it's some 'free PR' (coverage blitz) of the franchise before release.
@@visceraeyes525 RE4 is hardly connected to RE2, only due to having Leon and Ada. It terms of story within the timeline and gameplay, it’s night and day difference.
@Gavin Townsley yeah fr… ray tracing is a joke and lowers FPS. I’ll stick to 60 FPS
Actually the biggest upgrade are the loading times, also counts for cutscene skipping and costume changes on the fly. They should just add the option to lower the Resolution to 1440p in RT and HF mode if someone pleases.
yeah i'm surprised they didn't cover the loading times. they're basically instant now. it feels around 1-2 seconds to load. really good work optimising for the SSD in these machines. i'm really impressed with capcom not just for this game but other recently released titles and upcoming titles too. RE4make is going to be amazing!
It's true. 30 times faster loading in some areas.
Bro i loaded my save put the controller down to pickup my drink..shit didn't even touch my lips Bam loading was done
Biggest upgrade is that zombies can roam through does and actually follow you
@@jameslopez9661 didn’t they do that before? Can’t wait to replay them
I just finished RE2 remake with RT, on Series X. It was fantastic! I didn’t notice any frame rate issues. Really showed it as I’d forgotten most of the story.
In 30fps Lol 😂
@@REALQDM 30fps isn't that bad, stop overreacting
@@therealtrue842 Yes, yes it is. Especially in a game like this.
@@jackbootshamangaming4541 @QDTV You are aware both the remake of 2 and 3 have there own PS5 native versions which are 4k/60 right?
@@REALQDM yeah hilarious… ignoring the fact series x is 60 or 120fps
Impressive what they did with Serie S. Ray tracing, 120fps and 60fps all with a 1440p resolution must not have been easy. In 2 years of console Capcom was probably the first one who achieved this.
It's wildly inconsistent but with VRR it's still a great little console.
It’s dropping to 75 FPS on 120 FPS mode. And like 30 on Ray tracing mode. How is that “impressive” simply because they put out modes way too powerful for it to handle??
VRR is the only thing even close to making it okay..
it's not 1440p, it's 1440p cb. that's a big difference in pixel count.
@@braedonlock3359 because most of the other devs drop the res to 900p or 720p or have no RT at all
@@braedonlock3359 People talk about this console like they just spent $500 on a console or even $2,000 on a PC. It's a $300 console that's the same price as a switch. The switch can't even run cartoony 720p games at a solid 30fps. Let alone Ray tracing...
These seem like “future proof” modes. When these games runs back compat on future hardware, we will be very happy that these modes with higher fps targets exist
every console game should have this for this precise reason.
Definitely, Series X albeit powerful is suffering enough because of Xbox One S inept hardware, many native One S games or non optimized One X & S|X only running at 900p like MGSV
Just give us 3 mode:
RT mode(RT, 30fps)
NonRT mode(no RT, 60fps)
Manual mode(RT:on/off, frame rate cap:30/60/120, resolution cap:4k/2k).
Normal users have 2 preset mode. Advanced users can play around the setting and find their best one. Future consoles can take full advantage on the manual.
Heh, was just about to say, I’ll be enjoying these on the PS5 Pro.
@@samho6102 then some moron will activate all max in current gen and fry their console
RT mode should run at 1800p. The difference in res is barely noticable, but it will probably ensure a locked 60 fps.
Probably more like 1440p or 1080p. It drops to the 40s, a small resolution reduction isn't enough to increase frames by 20
@@Handonforehead 1600p would be a good middle ground
@@Handonforehead 1800P is still 2.5 million pixels less than 4K though. In any case these games always have a form of DRS. Perhaps Capcom could make it just that little more aggressive perhaps?
I don't understand why Capcom loves flying so close to the Sun. Targeting 2160p with RT at 60fps is not possible on console. I would gladly play the game at 1440p or even 1080p with RT at 60fps. Even 1st party developers haven't been able to do RTGI and RT reflections at 60fps, RE Engine is so extremely capable and impressive yet they keep handicapping it with 4K targets.
Yeah just like in dmc5 1080p 60fps and rt should be the standard.
No reflections in mirrors but in RE2 you can see raytraced reflections in computer monitor screens. One example is near the end of the game in Umbrella's lab, inside of the room where you take Sherry to lie down. Check it out.
you're assuming this guy has played past the first 2 hours of the game.
@@Bloodyshinta1 Well, to be fair, maybe he has played past that point, i.e. finished the game. But for this analysis it wasn't really necessary to do so again.
@@Bloodyshinta1 Between the launch of RE current-gen update and this video's early release for pateron supporters, there's only one week for him to test all 18 different combination of modes and platforms. That's 36 hours of gameplay capturing sessions for Oliver even if he only plays first 2 hours. Add video editing and DF Direct recording on top of that, it easily gets into working overtime territory. He also needs to watch most of this year's 'E3' presentations off the works in order to join the conversations so significant overtime working is not an option.
Seems like a very strange choice to not use it in both situations
RE2 in specific benefits a lot from 120 FPS mode since the knife damages are per frame. The console speedruns times are going to improve.
Kind of a mixed bag since the knife also degrades faster at higher FPS.
@@PJthePlayer Use the infinite knife you get from shooting all raccoons.
@@davidlvna this is helpful🙏🏾
@@PJthePlayer Dark Souls 2 PC flashbacks...
there are 2 separate categories for RE2 Remake speed runs though. 60 fps and 120 fps.
Glad you covered the mirror in RE2.
I tried the rt patch when it first launched, turned it on in settings, then first bathroom I saw the mirrors and thought maybe they screwed up and pushed an update with the menu option available but not actually doing anything
To all game developers: Please give us another option for playing games at 1080p 60fps with RT. A lot of people use 1080p tv's/monitors.
Insomniac: Why not have everything?
Other devs: Stop taunting us
They don't even need to drop to 1080p. They're running at almost full 4K with RT and they're hitting 40-60fps. 1600p-1800p should fix the framerate (and that would be downsampled on a 1080p TV which looks nice).
Just add a robust Dynamic Ressolution Scaling solution would be good enough for these games. A locked 1080p is too extreme even for Series S 60fps RT mode in RE2/3. It wouldn't add bloat to the option menu, while also future proof for future consoles since they would get a locked 2160p 60fps RT, though a patch that disables checkerboard rendering on those consoles would be nice.
These consoles REALLY are impressive for their price point given the performance they put out. Especially the Series S. That little thing is a beast.
I’m a PC gamer mostly but I’ve enjoyed my PS5 and Series X and I’m amazed at how well they hold the 120fps on the games that support it.
The Xbox one X is still a beast.
@@JAM_2024 a beast that barely holds 30 fps in games and won't receive games soon, really a fucking monster
Yeah, "beasts" that get an RT upgrade and can't get past 40 fps. Lmao. Rather stick to my good-old budget rig where I can actually average over 75 fps at this game on max settings at 1080p, yeah, sure, no RT, but is not an eye sore.
@@snchez2106 Not making sense, you can get 90-100 fps with high framerate mode 2160P with no RT. the RT 40-60 fps is disappointing but if they made the resolution 1440p or 1080p it would hit a locked 60FPS with RT. Both are better than your budget rig 1080p 75fps with no RT, which i'm sure cost more than $499
Games like this make me happy I bought a LG C1 OLED. Playing the high framerate with VRR has been amazing.
Still felt too choppy on C1 + PS5 to me
Agreed I think Ray tracing is cool but playing at 90+ was definitely more noticeable
@@peite7878 ps5's vrr implementation is a bit janky as well.
Same love my c1 nothing choppy over here if it is for anyone u don't have to play in game mode adjust motion to 1 and juddeer to 1 and that will go away
Haha same here
I was hoping you would show the differences in the laboratory level of RE2, that showed really weird reflections or textures or whatever it was on PS4 Pro. Really wondered how it looks like now.
brazilian yt channel Adrenaline made a comparison video in this scenario
DF almost never tests that deep into a game, both for spoiler and time reasons.
18 different modes to test I can’t blame them.
Definitely fixes those weird reflections
@@RatedRLoquender only with ray tracing mode.
I haven't played through 2 yet, but 3 still has those issues. Unless you turn on ray tracing mode. The weird grainy reflections go away. But you sacrifice performance.
Only played RE2 with ray tracing. Game already looked great but the RT definitely made it much prettier in some areas. The main spots where I had FPS drop off are big areas like the police station lobby and the lab/plant area.
yeah that’s how i’m playing through, it kinda sucked at times but I was waiting till the patch to replay with ray tracing so I stuck with it
Do u have a VRR display?
@@killerch33z I have an LGCX. I'm not too familiar with how VRR works but I think PS5 and this TV got updated with it.
Even With VRR the police station was the worst for sure. Otherwise RT is a huge improvement especially on the floors of the prescient
@@richardduarte8038 if you have a CX you should be good to go with enabling VRR. Only game I’ve ever seen it enable flicker in is Halo Infinite, but that’s an issue with Halo itself not VRR
Just played through RE2 with Ray Tracing on Series X and it was a great experience. An already beautiful game even better. Not a locked 60 but more than playable.
Frames drop too low even for vrr. Would be nice to see a 1440p native or upscale mode to hit locked 60. Just makes me want to update my pc to have more control of how the settings are optimised, 4k is just not as important as frames are to me.
Yeah I did the same on PS5. The framerate was mostly good for me. The only real problem area was the large open lobby section of the police station. It gets quite rough there but everywhere else was pretty solid (in my opinion).
Is there not a 30fps mode?? I’ll be so pissed off it not.
😂
This game is making a compelling case for PRO consoles. They ask developers to put ray tracing features to underpowered consoles and this is the result.
I will say, comparing the console version with my PC that was about double the price. These next gen consoles are actually a really big bang for the buck. Despite some criticisms. Paying 400-500 for a machine that can do all this is really good. I'll even give props to the series S. Sure it's not the best quality but for 299.99 it does alot of the price
what criticism? both consoles are pretty good this generation
That's why decided to pay less for a ps5 + a serie x than for a new gpu 👍😅
They sell software for profit, not the hardware, so yes you get a lot of hardware for your money.
Though you are still getting inferior image quality with the checkerboaring.
Lol console is like having all the effects turned off. I'm just bought 3080 machine and never going back.
i get the sentimemt but in this game both consoles are contending with 2060 level of performance. a $350 GPU from Jan 2019. if you can get a console for msrp, both are a good deal for an acceptable level of perf., however if paying $800 aka street prices, I'd add a bit more and get a decent PC.
A 500 $ gaming machine to deliver 4k60 (in this game at 100 fps) and still be able to run games for a decade. Yes! Thanks!🤘🏻
The PS5 and Series X are equivalent to last generation mid range gaming PC’s from 2018. This is also a well optimized game in a closed quarters environment. They are making a PS5 Pro and Series X 2 in 2024 because these consoles are not hitting their targets that they expected.
@@ZackSNetwork That's comparing gaming devices with different prices and not for the same period of time.
That pc wasn't 500 $ 4 years ago and a 500 $ pc doesn't run games for a decade. As every generation.
@@ZackSNetwork false Informations. They are equal to 2070super and 2080ti, also there are no plans, just make a search, or watch DF's video on it.
@@emrecigal mid-gen upgrade are definitely coming
@@Crimsongz
Doubt it. They haven’t even tapped into what these machines can do.
Series X ray tracing with VRR is a pretty stable experience. I still however don’t feel like RT is ever worth the performance hit. I will always advocate for locked framerates, even if that means a locked 30. Fluctuating framerates kill any experience for me.
Yep. High framerate all day over RT.
@@mikem2253 I totally agree with you guys. I appreciate the RT performance mode in GTA5 on the Series X. It blows me away how many games we don’t have that run at a stable 60FPS. It’s been very disappointing so far
@@josephfranzen9196 the RT in gta V is essentially not noticeable though unlsss you’re looking for it. Only RT shadows without light bounces/GI or reflections
I agree. We just aren't there yet especially for consoles. FSR 2.0 and DLSS exist because we aren't there yet.
RT is almost never worth the performance hit for minimal the difference is and how astronomical the fps hit is
I actually like Capcom's HFR mode here, it doesn't need to be 120fps all the time because the vast majority of displays that can output 120hz have VRR
I have the Optoma Projector HD28HDR and it does not have VRR but still feels great at 120hz.
I hope soon they consider to put VRR on the projectors.
You don't need 120 in a game like this anyway. It's not Doom Eternal.
If only that was true. Sony really dropped the ball with vrr support and left hdmi 2.0 monitor users out in the cold. And if it drops below 48 frames it doesn't even work. Here's hoping they expand it with the 1440p update later this year
@@thefury4815 Sony is an absolute joke when it comes to PROPER hdmi 2.1 implementation (been clear since day 1 they failed to make use of it properly)
With no 1440p no VRR bandwidth limited to 32gbps etc
They let me know from the get go to not rely on them for the majority of my gaming needs.
I play their exclusives on their box and that's it everything else is on my Xbox series x or my pc.
@@TJ.85 I don't have a pc and I hate the Xbox controller so I stick with ps5 as my main for that reason. It has some stupid problems they need to work out but it's not like it's unplayable
Variable Rate Shading would have been awesome for such a dark game, where most of the screen is not really in focus for the player.
The same thing I was thinking.
well either way the game looks to not even run at 4k anyway, probably using some upscaling as can be seen comparing consoles 4k vs pc 4k
Good video. Will you be doing a similar one to cover PC too as I'd love to see if you've been experiencing the same issue that I have with 7 where the reflections in the puddles seems to have ghosting issues as does the main gate to the house just after you get to the car. I haven't tested further in.
If they can stabilize the frame dropping in RT in future patches that would be ideal
They should probably either lock the fps at 30 or drop the resolution from 4k to 1440p.
If that means further downgrading graphics, then HELL NO I’m good.. I hate visual downgrades.. I’ll take the same visuals instead!
@@archivedfrytoastfrill9675 Yeah. Few games attempt 60fps, RT and 2100p+. It's just bad optimization. They just need to lower the resolution more in intense scenes (they have loads of headroom) and we'll have 60fps.
Man with the VRR supporter screen the game plays beautiful. ( I'm playing it on XSX) PS5 doesn't handle VRR below 50fps i think. But I understand your point, is benefits those who can't buy a tv that supports VRR. Which is sucks.
I don't own the game on PS5 otherwise I would test it myself because feeling it yourself is much better than watching or listening someone else opinion.
Yeah I feel if they just drop the resolution a little bit on the ray tracing modes it will be much closer to that 60fps target. I would certainly rather give up a few more pixels to get smooth performance and ray tracing(and if you want the full 4K and 60fps, non raytracing would be available).
Or you could buy a new TV.
@@kingghidorah6655 What's the bottleneck then
@@anticomuna Yeah buy a VRR TV rather than developers optimizing their games, what a great trend to promote! /s
@@ThorStoneGaming thats the way to go in the first world, you dont like it? then get fucked and hard in the ass, mean while in the third world we need optimization :P
@@anticomuna I have VRR monitor. It helps, but its still not as smooth as a stable 60fps.
Hey DF! Love your work! Please cover Callisto Protocol!
Once again VRR to the rescue. I honestly love the idea of an option to simply remove the frame rate cap without downgrading visuals. It allows those with VRR displays to take 100% advantage of the console with absolutely nothing left on the table.
It's about time. It should be the norm now with these new consoles. Only issue is Sony limits VRR to between 40 -120 hz and not the 20-120 hz both Series consoles can do and PC.
@@DEVILTAZ35 it's 48-120hz. Sonys vrr is absolute trash and being locked behind hdmi 2.1 screws over a majority of gamers. They better come out with something better for vrr when they add 1440p support or it'll be pretty much pointless
@@thefury4815 now that 1440p is here, it doesn't work with VRR LMAO
@@MacikSeba don't worry I already got a new monitor and selling my old one
I have been seeing a lot of negative reactions to this for some reason but on pc this has been a huge upgrade for me. I had just happened to beat 2 and 3 before the updates then again right after and the improvements are big. I immediately noticed the weird shimmering on the floors and surfaces are gone and texture detail are way better especially pavement looks amazing. You can see every single little tiny bump in the asphalt
It's a useless update to consoles unless you have a VRR display.
the problem on pc was that dx11 was completely removed from the game. meaning that most of the consumer base were either forced to use dx12, sometimes resulting in bugs, crashes, poor performance, etc... on some rigs it played fine, but for the most part it was a joke or... it should've been.
lucky crapcom fixed it or there would have been alot more refunds. IMO its pretty pathetic considering all of this is just for prettier lighting, definitely not worth ripping off customers who already paid for the game, pretty sad when you think about it
@@zanderman2009 I think capcom actually has now made it possible for people to download the dx11 version again. They couldn’t of released a patch were both dx 11 and 12 could be selected in the in game menu?
I love these video's always pointing out stuff i won't notice when playing the games.
Lmfao for real.
Thanks guys! Great video as always!
There should be a frame cap option in the menu with 30, 40, 60 and 120 (the last one only available when RT is off). This would really help non-VRR users that don't mind lower frame rates. Also, 40fps seems ideal for RT for those using 120hz screens.
This really does feel like a feature that gets left on the table a lot; if you're hovering from 40-50fps most of the time, then offering up a few framerate locks could help immensely. Something like a 'target framerate' option would be hugely appreciated.
That’s too much freedom for a console bruh maybe next time
Heck yeah. The Insomniac updates are awesome at 4k/40fps on a 120hz screen/monitor.
with consoles, the key has been to keep things on a plug and play basis. as times passes, consumers become more technologically proficient, so this wouldn't be a bad idea as console gaming can be deemed as the cheaper alternative to PC gaming.
Or have a performance rt mode similar to what insomniac does
I've been waiting for this, thanks for making this video!
I was waiting for this video. Thanks DF. 💯
In RT mode I’ve had a much more stable frame rate when I lowered the FOV in settings. I turned it down to about half way and it’s not too narrow but it really helps.
Can I ask which version are you playing? Also, are the frame drops too noticeable? Cause it looks like RT is worth it but not if the frame-rate becomes distracting...
@@paulorubiobojalil8039 I tried both 2 and 3 on Xbox Series X. They look fantastic with RT on and with the FOV lowered to about half the frame drops weren’t noticeable to me.
@@Funnylittleman awesome, gonna try that as well. Thanks a lot!
FOV is defaulted to half way. Do you mean you lowered it to 1/4?
Would love to see a 40fps at 120hz RT mode.
Seems RT mode should maybe be bumped down to at least 1800p.
Classic Capcom performance update. Excellent features, excellent tech, middling performance execution. Good to see new features regardless!
Finally brings RT reflections.
Forgets to put reflection on mirror [Even though sharper reflections are less demanding than diffused reflections].
I never play at 120fps any game that is not competitive but i LOVE the fact that they let us choose
Been waiting for your breakdown of this update. I appreciate Capcom going back to update these.
i don't, they just basically deativated the game on my pc, now it doesnt work}
@@ualarga There’s ways around it, there’s a fix to roll back the patch. Crazy how an upgrade is actually a downgrade lol
@@ualarga don't worry, Capcom already solved that problem by then.
Just go to the Beta section of the Game Properties and switch to a pre-RT build.
I'm looking forwards to flashlights in games getting some GI so we can get away from the "bright circle in pitch black room" look and get a much more dynamic look.
Finally, I was waiting for this video to see your comparison
Smooth 60fps is much more important and the games look GREAT without RT. I am not using it
*Loads of players need to ask them to include an option to lower the resolution.* Full or near full 4K with RT is a really bad idea when targeting 60fps, even on PC. They have loads of headroom and can easy fix this.
For most players, the stuttering framerate will make the mode a bit unpleasant so ... why take this approach? It's frustrating, tbh. Same bullshit happened with Elden Ring (minus the RT, haha).
@@idakev totally agree! A lower resolution would probably make wonders for performance. It doesn't make sense to push such high resolutions with RT, not if they also want to target 60fps anyway.
Very generous of Capcom, I must say. Appreciated! Gave them all a spin after the update (on PS5) and they’re a fantastic experience with RT and VRR. RE3 comes out on top for me for visual splendour and performance. Still unconvinced by RT reflections. They’re nice but don’t add much to the experience that high quality SSR doesn’t already do.
in these games cases RT reflections make a hell of a difference. the reflections looked like a pixilated mess before.
Just finished Control with Max RT + 60 fps and thought it made a world of difference. The entirety of that games map is reflective tho lol
@@Punisher6791 That’s not really because of RT, though. The previous versions had terrible SSR/cube maps. If they’d replaced them with high quality SSR we’d be just as happy. The RT GI is nice, though :)
@@divinitymode9364 How is it not because of RT? The RE Engine has horrible SSR no matter what game or platform you play on. RT is an easy "cheat" for them, and the results speak for themselves. Massive improvement.
What about without VRR? My TV supports it, but disables local dimming.
I’ve been waiting for this video since it was announced!
The Series S being able to do the exact same visuals as the others with only a knock to resolution and some minor framerate losses is very impressive. Great job to the developers and exciting for the future of these consoles!
It's an impressive little machine!
Do you mean to say that if you turn down resolution and framerate, that weaker systems can run things? Wow that is truely amazing
Its running the same settings as pS4 pro just with added rt. Its not really impressive.
@@CamberGreber Keyword - "RT" it is.
Damn, what a shame to hear about performance problems! They really should have dropped the RT mode resolution to 1440p on Series X and PS5 and 1080p on Series S. That would solve at least 95% of these performance problems.
Exactly... Devs don't seem to understand what people on the series S want, 1440p does nothing for me since my TV is 1080p. It would be very beneficial to have a 1080p rt, it would definitely go almost up to 60fps or maybe it would be a consistent 60
@@DVictor23 cpu isn’t strong enough
@@DVictor23 If you had VRR you won't notice though. It's cheap enough to get a 1080p or 1440p VRR capable display surely.
@@DEVILTAZ35 Dude you absolutely do notice drops to 50s 45s even with vrr. Vrr isnt some kind of magic
Glad to hear the HFR doesn't drop resolution! I've been playing RT with a VRR display and it looks ace - only noticeable drop was in cutscenes.
Resident Evil 3 was patched on One X ,downgrading the resolution from 4k to 1600p to save a few fps (to be fair, the framerate was all over the place before). I fear, they will do the same for all modes on PS5/SX because people already complaining again.
VRR can't save the RT mode on PS5 - I noticed something was wrong immediately, and brought the game mode OSD up (the same one as in the video, cause it's a Samsung TV), only to see that it's constantly swinging between 40-60 fps. Once the car explodes, Leon and Claire are separated, and you're facing like 10 zombies in the streets, at the beginning of RE2, it dropped to ~30, and I was out.
HFR mode is surprisingly good with VRR, though, the lowest I saw it hit in RE2 was ~80 during the cutscene when you're crawling through the gate to get to the Precinct's East Wing in the beginning (this, and the lab greenhouse were the most framey points of the PS4 version), and usually it stays ~100fps. Did a whole playthrough of RE2 in HFR, and it felt very smooth, indeed. Currently 70% through RE3, and it's the same, so provided you have an HDMI 2.1-compliant display, that would be my recommendation, especially since there's no loss in quality.
@@piobu5357 that’s cause of the small vrr range on ps5
@@SOTVT I pray to gods rhey don’t downgrade this mode and just make an additional mode called performance rt
@@johannessguten2527 the obvious thing would have it be 1800p upscaled to 4K, it wont save the game from dropping fps but 20% less pixels to render could really help reduce the massive drops
I also noticed a couple of glitches, one in the locker room where buttons 1 and 2 are missing one corner of the room went completely black for a few seconds and in the sewers after saving ada on the way out a wall started to flicker strangely, in the previous version nothing like that happened before.
When I play Resident Evil 2 on my Series S with Ray Tracing disabled, I have noticed some pixeleated areas. If I activate Ray Tracing, the problem disappears.
If you’ve got a VRR display the high frame rate mode is definitely the way to go. Definitely a pity though they didn’t tweak the RT mode or at least implement LFC for VRR users.
Seems pretty good on the SX.
Unlocked frame rate in RT and High frame rate mode is a good approach to future proof games, next gen consoles after SX and PS5 will able to utilise these without any extra patch
Future proof at the cost at shit experience until then. No idea why they wouldn’t give the option to lock the RT mode to 30fps. At least most 120hz users probably have VRR to help that mode.
@@ZeAllMighty1 30-60fps also works with VRR no issues
Would love if DF went back to producing more videos like this. Lots of stuff seems to be getting missed now because of the long form content that has been coming out, but personally I feel like this short analysis is greatly missed.
The channel is slipping into a format that is more interested in DF Retro content+game trailer analysis. The DF of a decade ago would pump out articles dedicated to new releases and how those releases performed (shocker).
@@anen9332 the infrequency of videos now is a real shame. We used to get a far greater influx of content not that long ago.
Thank goodness I got a decent Sony Bravia with VRR and all that jazz. Looking forward to giving them a shot!
I don't know about Series X and PS5 but on Series S, turning on the 120 fps mode in RE2 definitely turns down the shadow quality a notch and potentially the ambient occlusion setting. I noticed a difference in the self cast shadows on the character model flipping back and forth between 120 and normal mode.
You can also tell some visual settings are changing in the environment as well bc when you flip the setting back and forth while in game, you can see the environment do a slight visual shift in the lighting via the options menu being a translucent blur over the game.
Again, this is only on Series S and REmake 2 I was testing this with. I haven't check RE3 yet and I don't have a ps5 or SX.
my C1 is proving to be an outstanding purchase. Pairs nicely with the series x.
It’s an amazing display however the new consoles don’t take full advantage of its beautiful.
@@ZackSNetwork
The series X does
It work great with ps5 also
If been waiting for this!!!!!!!!
I'm surprised how you say image quality isn't much different from the ps4 pro version, that was the one thing I immediately realized, it's significantly cleaner now with no shimmering, something the ps4 pro version suffers from bad. At least in RE 3
A prefomance RT mode like ratchet and clank would be amazing
Miles Morales has one too. Looks and plays great.
@@ijclnl48 agreed
At least these Resi Evil games aren't for kids anyway.
@@DEVILTAZ35 what does that have to do with anything
REmake and RE2 make are two of the best ever.
I'm going to have to double check this. I'm currently playing RE2 but I haven't noticed any slowdowns that are major noticeably.
Great video man keep up the great work god bless. I have a question this quality of life support if I buy the regular physical dics but I have the playstation 5 do I get those upgraded for free
I played both of these for a little bit with Ray tracing mode and found both looked quite good, really the first games I’ve played where I noticed a significant difference and actually thought I was playing a “modern/next gen” game. I found RE2 didn’t play quite as stanble (in my experience) compared to RE3, which felt like a locked 60 except for one particular moment (when Jill enters or leaves the subway zone under the door). By the way, I have a VRR display that can push these modes a bit further and make them appear more stable. I’m happy with this free update, but it’s not something I can play for long, it makes my Series X an absolute wind tunnel of heat.
The more heat that’s coming out of it, means it’s doing it’s job. I’d be worried if it wasn’t kicking out heat. That’s when you know the heat is not being transferred properly from the CPU/GPU. Hot air is a good thing if it’s coming out.
Unless the air vents are obstructed, clogged or something like that, you have nothing to fear. The 7th gen overheating days issues are long gone, and of anything, your console pushing a ton of hot air out is actually a sign that its cooling system is in full effect. IF you play for a long time and the console shuts down, and does so every time you play, then you have a cooling issue. If that's not the case, just have fun and don't worry about it (it's doing what's supposed to do).
Hey everyone replying. I know it’s supposed to pump out air, it’s just that I have a small room so it heats things up in there quite fast
@@BillyMcBillface I'm familiar with the scenario (I was unfortunate enough to be born in... Brazil 😔).
How do you have the Series X positioned? . It shouldn't do that at all. Make sure nothing is blocking the right side fan or anything too close to it.
The interrogation room in RE2R has a reflective window that does have reflections for the character if you want to see how RT can look in RE2R.
I think that's just a projection of the room though, since it's the same on PS4 and Xbox One
@@Fernando_Ribeiro It's definitely not as Leon's reflection is displayed at a resolution that aligns with how he would be displayed in RT.
@@SE-fq4gf I doubt it. Looks RT to me. Like how Spiderman does its RT reflections.
@@SE-fq4gf I'll let someone I trust confirm it for me. Plus the fps drops heavy when you see this reflection. So I believe its an RT reflection seeing how the game uses RT in its RT mode.
@@WllKiedSnake Dude, look up "
Resident Evil 2 Use Heart Key Get to Interrogation Room" on youtube around the 3 minutes mark and come back. Footage is from 2019 when the game first released, this ain't RT.
Are there any graphic settings differences between the new and old versions? I remember the rain being way heavier at the start of RE2 on my PC even with my sad RX 570 vs the PS4 Pro I had at the time.
maybe it's because my tv has VRR but I find the RT mode perfectly fine so far. its just too gorgeous to turn off
I think if they had 1800p for RT, 60fps would be more than possible. 1440p should have been default for 120fps mode & it's puzzling they didn't do that.
PC Master Race can
Consoles are not powerful enough to do native 1440p at 120fps that’s why. They can’t even maintain 120fps at their current resolution target.
@@ZackSNetwork Depends on the game
No 1440p
@@ZackSNetwork Doom Eternal gets very very close. Don't blame the consoles, blame the developers.
The RT implementation looks good. but for me, performance will always come first.
100% agree. Maybe if we do get pro consoles we can get a locked 60FPS 4K with RT?
Or maybe that’s another generation away
@@mcryan07 Atleast one generation away.
@@mcryan07 Nah they're saving that for the PS5 Pro.
@@mcryan07 yeah sure. triple the power, triple the scarcity! Lol
@@dericjames2018 considering they are struggling to make enough PlayStation 5s, that's definitely not going to happen anytime soon.
Duuuude what?? I had no idea this was out already. Checking it out immediately
Are you sure high frame rate mode keeps the resolution? I think it lowers res. Initially I didn't notice much but I backed out into the PS5 menu while that mode was enabled and noticed it (the menu/interface) didn't look quite as good as usual, so I clicked on my TV remote's "info" button and it showed the signal was 1080p.
Why don’t the 120 FPS modes have a reduced resolution to compensate? There’s NO option to lower resolution to benefit frame rates across any of these modes?!? Who thought this was best for the players?
A vrr screen is becoming a must with each passing day
Yeah i have to admit it was the best purchase i ever made outside of my discontinued Star Wars Lego collection Of Kylo Rens's Shuttle and Tie Fighter lol
Sweet! I had no intention on playing RE2 game on series x since it was capped at 30 gps… but now this changes everything
they run amazing im on series x. Others say series S runs really good also
Does the PS5 VRR "enable for non-supported games" option work on these two titles?
I played RE2 with the 120fps option on a Series S with a 1440p monitor and there is a definitely a reduction in resolution compared with the 60fps mode.
No shit?
@@dougr8646 The video say there isn't a reduction
Yeah. I played on a series x with a 4k 120hz vrr display. When I turn on high framerate mode I can see shifts onscreen behind then menu and it looks like resolution dropped. I figured it dropped to 1440 or something. It does look reduced. So I don't get it.
@@MrBeretta92FS have you tried playing it on 1080p? I'm wondering if fps will perform better
@@lesterlim47s changing the consoles output resolution doesn’t affect the rendering resolution of games. If the developers set the game to render at 4K, it’ll do so regardless of what you set your output to in console settings.
Mostly solid upgrade. If the RE Engine is capable of temporal accumulation, perhaps the Capcom could go the extra mile and implement FSR 2.0 to replace checkerboarding. I feel like this is something all the consoles could benefit from, but especially Series S image quality.
Thanks so much for putting this video together. I have been eagerly awaiting it. Great that Capcom made the upgrades but particularly the ray tracing mode seems a letdown. Just drop the resolution. I have been waiting for the upgrade to play RE2 again but will play 4k 60 or wait a bit more to see if they patch the ray tracing mode. I assume the ps5 controller, 3d sound and fast loading are great, plus the 4K 60 is at least a higher resolution than prior to the upgrade, so that's also cool. Thanks DF!
Thanks for posting this. I was pretty excited for these upgrades but it doesn't seem worthwhile for the most part. I don't use a 120hz display and the performance issues with RT turned on is really disappointing.
the 120 fps modes reduces shadow quality. if you play RE3 and face any area with lots of shadows, open the menu and go to the graphics tab where you can toggle 120 fps on/off, and then toggle it whilst the game is semi-visible in the background you can see the shadow quality changing.
also i've noticed this year xbox is better in most games vs the last year where ps5 was better. seems the developer tools are maturing nicely for xbox.
@@itsmorbtime2536 its not fanboy. Hes right. Ive had playstation all my life and currently have the PS5. The series X is my first xbox, games look way more crisp and sharper resolutions on xbox. I agree with him, feels like developers are using more of xbox to its advantage or unless the few more tflops xbox has really kicks in, idk but it does look better on xbox in most games. PS5 looks good, just has a softer image in comparison
@@itsmorbtime2536 say youre a virg without saying youre a virg Lol
They should have locked the RT versions at 1440p for a rock solid 60fps IMO.
Drops into the low 50s are doable, especially with VRR, but when we start getting into the mid 40s like a rollercoaster things start to be less enjoyable.
Will you guys do RE7 and PC?
Vrr still saves it
@@johannessguten2527 on Xbox maybe. On PS5 the limit is 48Hz IIRC. And low frame rate compensation is dog poo personally.
@@denisruskin348 I know that just means Sony needs to fix their vrr and make it like Xbox
@@johannessguten2527 agreed. It’s inferior.
I've been waiting for this!!!
I wonder if RTGI and RTR are more expensive than the standard volumetric lighting and SSR settings from RE2's launch on PC. Low to high for volumetric lighting had a 58% performance impact for RE2 and apparently medium renders at of your native resolution. I remember it giving my old gpu a harder time than it should have. RE village is a way better optimized game and RT, while kinda sparce looked amazing in the mansion especially. We need a PC breakdown, it's nice to see console comps but PC would especially be appreciated for at least re2 as that had the most broken or jank settings. I remember the vram counter saying like 14gb when in reality I think it was about half of that according to afterburner.
P.S. The RE engine is amazing. Look at max settings RE2/3/7/8 with RT and then boot up MH: Rise on switch. The scalability of this engine is amazing. MH Rise might not have crysis level foliage etc but it looks damn good on switch and isn't rendered at 360p to get a stable framerate despite everything than can go on during a battle, especially in MP.
There is a bug in the ray tracing implementation in these games. I have an rtx 3070 and at first the game runs fine with RT on. But after a while the frame rate drops significantly for no reason. When I load the game from a latest save, the frame rate is back up and stable again at 60 fps.
I had a similar issue with Doom Eternal's DLSS where it would stop working and RT would tank the frame rate. The same thing happens with DLSS in Horizon Zero Dawn where it just turns off after a while. FSR does not have that issue and remains on and stable.
Sudden frame drop with RT and DLSS on can be caused by not having enough VRam. In RE they give you a bar of how much vram you're using with the settings you have on, if it goes past that into red, that means you will have terrible peformance. RT especially has very high demand for vram. Doom eternal also has issue with eating lots of vram at higher settings and resolutions.
I've been waiting for this video. And I am sure that I am not the only one.
Glad you guys came through for us. 👍🏾
So basically, for those of us with VRR-compatible tvs, this is a pretty decent improvement over our first playthrough.
Cool!
they are late kinda, there are videos already out but I still waited for their's analysis.
@@mrvickee1
There are, but... those honestly aren't good, in my opinion. So yeah, I was waiting for theirs as well.
I have a monitor that supports VRR, so I don't mind if the frame rate drops as long as the image quality is being improved. All games should offer the option to improve image quality for those who have a VRR capable screen. For those who don't have a a VRR capable screen, a 30 fps cap should do or just stick to the default settings.
The Image quality is great with VRR Don't go off RUclips for image quality lol
Thank god one of my tvs is VRR. it’s a huge difference. I use high framerate modes vrr. But Ray tracing with vrr on seems to be the go to if you have a vrr tv.
I think they have patched the RT modes because it feels super smooth now
I love the addition of the HFR modes. Playing on my LG CX it’s perfect with VRR.
Vrr flicker though
@@helloguy8934 maybe it's just the CX? I have C and G1 and no VRR flicker on any platform
@@helloguy8934 how?
@@helloguy8934 okay? And I don’t even notice it lmao. I swear people look for problems anywhere they can.
@@SSNebula same here LGC1 zero VRR flicker
Really happy seeing I got the upgrades but I can't connect to the Xbox network now. What was surprising was seeing that they could still run from my external hard drive.
Depending on the floor material the depiction of the reflections is pretty accurate. I guess tho that’s only certain things you’d know if you did flooring 😂
Sad PlayStation collection doesn’t support the free upgrade
Yeah. Thanks to Sony greedines in the last years.
@@cristi8183 Capcom likely plays a role here, too. They'd prefer to upgrade paying customers.
Capitalism.
Why dont we ever talk about bullet decals gun effects on environments, bullet damage to enemies. Who gives a shit about reflections
Because Digital Foundry ain't about that.
Played a bit of RE2 on my PC and was getting great framerates at native 1440p (my max res) but was hard-pressed to really notice the RT benefits. lighting looks great, but save for the police station lobby, it was tough to even find a decent reflective surface. Maybe if I play more and get to other environments...
RE engine has really weak RT implementation in general. Which is disappointing since it gives ammo to those rt-is-a-gimmick sorts of people. re games have a lot of rough dirty surfaces also so that gives way less opportunity to use it too tho so
I think RE engine still fuck on PC especially antialiasing option, it so blury on 1080p. It more likely optimize for console.
I went achievement hunting on RE2 on my XSX with a VRR supporter screen and I found it pretty good for not being hitting 60 all the time.
Yeah you don't really notice at all hey? It's not like it's a twitch shooter like Doom Eternal anyway where every frame counts lol
Capcom needs to patch-in dedicated VRR support (not 'passive') for the PS5 version to properly hit designated targets.
We can clearly see - looking at Insomniac's treatment - that a dedicated VRR update with smart parameters for frame-rate compensation really does a fine job.
The ray tracing in RE3 on the series s is insane. Tho I greatly prefer high frames over 30 with RT. It still looks amazing in 60fps
Can you stream Re2 Re3 and Re7 with hdr enabled or do you still get a blue block screen?
I've been waiting all week for this bad boy
Would love to see lower resolution RT modes… i’m still playing on a 1080 led screen.
So you're using supersampling, even better. 4k signal on a 1080p screen. Free antialiasing, basically
Same here on Series S, il prob use the non RT mode for now in RE7. That or just using one RT effect?
Same here. I don't really care for 4K, especially when hitting those resolutions hurt performance
I'm going to try RT mode on my Series S. I use my PC monitor (which has VRR) for everything, so hopefully it goes well.
You'll be better off than Sony users, considering you get both 1440p + freesync + LFC, Sony users get fukked. the only Monitor options we have for VRR are HDMI 2.1 only forum VRR, and all monitors currently supporting this are deathly expensive at a bare $525 minimum.
@@Pruflas-Watts 🤣🤣🤣 525$ is not deathly expensive. And you can get a tcl 55 inch for about 750$ refurbished on Amazon that does it all, excellent picture, game mode, excellent hdr, VRR, 120 fps.
I've got the tcl R6 it does all that except when running in 120 hz it drops the resolution to 1440p. The year model after that is the same but it keeps the full 4k will in 120hz and you can get a new 55 inch for about 900$ or less if you get a refurbished one on Amazon.
@@ibelieveitcauseiseentit9630 they were clearly talking about monitors man, obviously TVs are cheaper.
@@ibelieveitcauseiseentit9630 My room isn't large enough to fit a big TV. I also mostly play on PC, so it's more convenient to just use the same monitor.
@@ibelieveitcauseiseentit9630 $525 is definitely expensive for a monitor. I'm talking about monitors, not TVs. Most I'd spend on a Monitor is $350, and maybe the Gigabyte M27Q. The cheapest HDMI 2.1 monitor NOT on sale is $575 MSRP and has a limited 24 gbps HDMI 2.1 connection, so PS5 can only do chroma 4:2:0 at 4k 120z display output.
Why would anyone buy a refurbished TCL when the 55" TCL r646 goes for $649. $500 for a monitor for basic gaming features is pricey, and you're missing the point. Xbox users can get a lot more features in good quality monitors that retail for as cheap as $250 and don't sacrifice pixel response time or input lag.
With the fps headroom without RT at 4k on ps5/XSX why not have a lower resolution mode at 1080p to hit 120, and maybe a 1080p 60 mode with RT similar to Spider-Man remastered
So, what's the recommended mode at the end of the day for someone who has a VRR/120 hz display? The RT mode or the HFR mode?
I would still stick to VRR 60 for best results personally if you want Ray tracing . Otherwise go 120
I could tell no difference in graphics but the 3d sound was a pretty good improvement with my headset. And yes it works pretty good. To bad PS5 doesn't have Dolby Atmos thought because I have a 5.1.4 Dolby Atmos system that works great on my series x.
The fact you have to pay for atmos on xbox I'll never get it. I'd rather buy a good headset anyway
@@thefury4815 it's only a once in a lifetime fee of like $14.00 it's no big deal, price was actually included in my headset.
Like I said it's a one time fee. I also have a pulse 3d headset for my PS5.
And headsets are better than tv speakers and somewhat ok with 3d audio but in all honesty...
A *headset doesn't even COMPARE to the sound quality and 3d accuracy you get with a 5.1.4 Atmos sound system...* *It's not even comparable.*
If you hear just one time my sound system on say... Call of duty on series x (the game is in dolby Atmos) there's a scene where it's playing the song "magic carpet ride" and there are helicopters flying from behind and above you and passing over your head.
You hear that one time and you'll understand.
Or in Forza five (it's also in dolby Atmos) when I just park my care somewhere in the woods you hear bugs, crickets, birds, other cars far away on the freeway, the water running in the creek... And you hear it all around you above you, below you...
*It is a freaking amazing sound that no headset can compete with.*
Trust me, a headset is better than just your tv speakers, but it's not comparable to a 5.1.4 sound system.
@@ibelieveitcauseiseentit9630 true
The game was already gorgeous but this helps it for sure!