You see this right there is why i respect you sir,you show how it is and you also not just show your mistakes but you try everything to fix it and you are being humble about it while others only show the good jobs not bad that is why you are number one channel and the reason i started painting,you dont even know how much i learn from you.Thank you my mentor!
I like your attitude on yore videos, and even if I'm an 80 year old man , I will keep watching your videos so I can learn how to finish my 1960 Impala 2 DR Hard Top before I died, and sell it to help my Grand sons with there college tuition, Thank you Brian,I will keep watching you videos, Tank You and God bless.
I like that you put your mistakes online I’m 53 years old. I’ve been hobby painting cars since I was 17. These things just happen. I don’t care how good you are or what type of equipment you have. I’ve beat myself up in the past. Pretty good, thanks for sharing.
I really appreciate your honesty, it's refreshing. I was a pretty decent painter, I left that trade and joined the military (long story). I've always loved painting and have done a fair few side jobs in the camp workshop. Less than ideal conditions, but with experience, you know what defects to expect and how to manage them. I tend to tack and whack, let it get dirty, DA 500g and flow coat, then cut and polish. Like you said, it makes you feel like a beginner. You know you can do better, but everything is stacked against you. The lighting in that workshop is awful, so I'm always battling that. Great video.
12:00 At that point when you said "I'm not feeling good about this" That's when I would have stopped and said I'll do this another day. But hats off to you for pushing forward. I really enjoyed this clip. It hits closer to home with me. Honestly when I watch your videos in a proper spray booth I take what you do not so seriously because your in an environment i'm not able to be in. This was like watching my self lol Dressed to go fishing while spraying a bonnet. Honestly I am learning so much more from these videos and loving it. Thanks for all you do mate. Have an awesome New Years and I'll catch ya Next Year ;)
Brian, your getting solvent pop from the high transfer efficiency of the turbine! Todays HS clears need smaller droplet sizes, so you gotta play with the settings on the turbine to achieve that. I spray with that same unit everyday in various environments, and you can get better results than what your getting bud! Full PSI (unless your doing tight blends), turn that fan pattern in a bit, like 30-50% depending on what cap your using. Watch your distance and speed. Remember, you can’t change pressure, but changing speed, distance, and fluid will mimick it! I use a 1.0 tip and never run that fluid more than 1.25 turns out from fully closed. Usually 1-1 1/8th out. This combo will limit your “turbine peel” and allow you to spray closer and faster, thus laying down a thinner coat of clear that won’t solvent pop. Feel free to reach out if you wanna chat more about what I’ve learned over the years!
For someone who can spray with their eyes closed like Brian, or myself, it is incredibly difficult to go back and forth between turbine hvlp and shop air hvlp. A lesser experienced person would look at both operations and think they're 99% the same. Nope. I knew going from 1.3 to 1.0 nozzle could be problematic. Even though turbine hvlp is the original technology, the evolution has been to use stronger turbines and guns to match a little closer to shop hvlp but it's still tough. I cut my teeth with turbine spraying and after 25 years still struggle to paint with a shop gun. Brian has the absolute correct mindset, humility, and patience to share the struggle with the world. I think the best painters are their own toughest critic, no one will judge them harder than themselves. Keep up the great work!
This is why you are the goat man. Most would have never shown a job they weren't completely proud of, but everyone has issues from time to time. It looks great tho!
Excellent series for the home painter. A lot of different scenarios and troubleshooting. I learn so much from these mistakes. More please! Thank you very much.
Some of you might know this but when you sand that flow coat layer, you now only have your top flow layers to sand. If you go below that into the original clear coat, it will show and you'll have to rebase.
I'm not using my inflatable booth anymore, I've had nothing but problems with everything I've painted. Besides the weather has to be perfect to even use the thing
Brian, you are correct that the problem is that inflatable booth. The gases from the solvents cannot evaporate properly and they are getting trapped in that booth causing the fish eyes. I do not use any plastic sheathing or poly based coverings in my garage and I do not get fish eyes. I use Tyvek sheathing from home depot that absorbs the gases and does not trap the gases. I also use high flow turbo fans to circulate the air with 3m filtrate filters. It helps a lot 👍
I had the same issues when I painted my car, my problem was not giving enough time between coats and water on the system which you don’t have that to worry about. End up sending the whole car and I will start over when the weather gets better up in the north. I have a long 4 months ahead of me until I can re prime and paint. Think this way, at least you have the weather on your side 😅
Hey Brian , Iam a painter of 38 years in a body shop . Your videos are always great to watch . Tip , try after a run has dried good priming it with lacquer primer from a spray can , let that be your guide coat and reapply if needed . After it’s out use alcohol wipes (devilbiss wipes )to wipe off excess and buff learned this about 25 years ago . And yes if your painting your gonna get a run now and then no biggie . This has always been a win for small runs all it takes is patience with the primer but it shows everything and protects the paint around it hope you can show this sometime . Keep up the great work you’re doing !!!! 😊
I had an inflatable booth thing was okay for the first job then after suckedd , i ended up selling it , would not recommend , get better jobs painting under a tent lol , would just build a custom booth if i had too
Well, technically he is not outdoor, he is in a booth so the elements did not affect him at all. I love his videos and I do think he is an awesome painter. And I am actually grateful that he shows mishaps because that is actually what happens, even if you are a great painter. He is one of the best. You might also wanna check out Scorpion paint and Garage Noise. Garage noise is good because he is more barebones with small almost single use filters from harbor freight and normal compressors.
That battery powered da looks super useful. Might have to replace my brushless rotary drill with that. I love flow coats but always thought they should be 600-800 and recleared. 400 sounds way too aggressive. I wonder if it was the Eastwood high solids clear coat that was a crazy amount of fisheyes
I have an inflatable and been very lucky with it as far as my results with it. I just wish it was a little easier to get up and running and the wind sucks, as you know. Great video as always. I appreciate when you show the mistakes and issues that you have. Makes the rest of us feel better about what we are doing.
I get the floor wet with water before I spray in my booth that way it keeps all the dust down and my jobs come out great . Another issue I found was the fans. I just get AC filter material and I cover the fans with one sheet to help it from getting all the trash in your job as well. It will suck dust into the booth without that filter in place.
From my limited experience with turbines and painting. With a 5 or 6 stage unit you have to dial the fluid down quite a bit. With the BHS cap and mid solid clear i get good results between .75 to 1.25 turns out from fully closed with the 7700 gun from apollo with 0.8 or 1.0 tip at 7 psi of flow pressure. Since they operate at a lower atomizing pressure and have about 65cfrm compared to a regular spray gun, you end up with greater transfer efficiency but less atomizing pressure...so thats why you have to dial the fluid down.
I agree with this advice as well. There’s a few people on You Tube, Jake Lesada comes to mind in fact, that have turbine spraying down to a science. Like anything else it’s learning your equipment and dialing it it with practice. Love the videos and the transparency. You’re an amazing teacher. Keep up the great work, I’m looking forward to your next video.
Spraying in that environment where you are basically drawing in air from outside has a high potential for contaminants to be drawn in the booth, also have you ever considered an LVLP gun, you spray a little slower but overspray is almost non existent compared to HVLP and you can still lay down a nice finish, HVLP is geared toward more high volume production work, I used HVLP for over 20 years and I was quite impressed with what I could do when I tried LVLP, again not as high production but for jobs in the home garage it offers some advantages and doesn't require a high capacity compressor to acheive very good results, I think that inflatable booth would work much better indoors in a more controlled environment, you got really lucky those fish eyes were shallow as they can be a real nightmare, don't ask me how I know, good job saving the hood.
Good on you showing quite how things can go. Things don't always go as well as you'd liked, but, BUT you can put it right. The main thing is knowing quite what went wrong and why. Good luck sorting out the run on the edge Brian, (I'd imagine that was done some time ago by now) I hate sanding lacquer runs 'cos if anyone will rub through, I will! Have a Happy New Year dude.
Thanks for giving the inflatable booth and turbine spray system a try. We learned a few things. The paint surface looked um, not great ....from what I am seeing. Lot of texture and crud ...like you say. Not your fault. A booth swaying in the wind is far from ideal. But that's the kind of unexpected thing which can happen. How much dust was falling off the ceiling/roof? I would probably wear a head sock and paint suit to remove as many variables. Lot of dust can come off a painter. Ultimately painting at home is always a compromise. What CAN go wrong seems like it WILL go wrong. Good video. Thanks!
I have been really determined to get this turbine system to work, I blame it on user error right now because I know I can get a much better quality finish at home
I did my first paint job on my EK back in October and the roof turned out worse than the right side of this hood. Tons of dirt settled on it. I'm thankful for this vid. I haven't tried to fix it yet. I've been working on suspension and other areas. I'll hit the roof with 400/600, hopefully not burn through, and flow coat it.
Sorry to hear the problems, it happens to all of us at some level, That fancy tankless compressor would make me skeptical for the containment…lubricant blow by in the turbines and in the lines.
I agree this is called flow coat, clear coat over sanded clear coat. I’ve seen some guys say that it isn’t, that a “flow coat” is when you over reduce your clear on your last coat.
Brian, the inflatable booth seems like a nightmare. Would setting up a curtain wall system in the garage maybe workout better and add a portable ventilation system? When done you could just slide the curtain out of the way?
Yeah I would be happy with it. But for me it would be one and done. You sir are a pro, so I would expect you to go for as close to perfect as possible.
That happened to me all the time until I decided to quit using cheap clear and using a higher end clear it makes a difference and cuts down on alot of unnecessary work
I think a great video idea would be to see if there is a difference with a waterborne paint in that booth versus all solvent based using your same process. You are a top notch painter, I think it is a chemistry issue with the gases, I could be wrong, just trying to isolate the culprit…
A friend was just telling me about a trick to get a run out. He said he piled body filler on it then sanded it down and the body filler protects the adjacent clear that’s the right thickness, and as you sand it away, it’s like a guide coat almost. Do you use this method? Know it? If so can you show it? I think I understand it. But seeing it would be awesome.
I saw a video where a guy made a couple support to tighten up the spray booth to keep it from collapsing. He probably used 6 2x4's in total. What he did was make a horseshoe style brace and placed it against the walls and ceiling next to the air columns which keeps it tight and right even if you lose power
Geez these inflatable booths look like they might be better done in a garage space.. outdoors, youre gonna wind up like a hamster ball... OMG... Thanks for all the insights.. Happy New Year!!! !
I’m interested to know after sanding,how much thickness of paint and or clear coat is left? Surely it must be borderline,as opposed to a correctly finished spray job?
Yeah it doesn't take much wind to make the booth move especially when it comes at it from the sides. I always faced mine into the wind and I used straps (like 30) from the top loops and the bottom loops and then into the ground with metal stakes. I also cleaned the booth with a damp cloth/broom and blower after each job and always again before. Using a booth I feel like you have to be militant about everything if you want it to come out decent.
Dont like the way that gun sprays at all, too much of an orangepeel surface for my flowcoat. I would probably add a little reducer for that nozzle, or maybe a bit more pressure?
Was spraying straight cottage cheese out of the gun. I don't know anything about those guns but i can read a paint job. Either needs more psi, another ½ part of reducer. Also needs a slower reducer/hardener. You can see how dry the opposite side of the hood is when he's going over it with the following coat. Clear should be melting in at that point.
I have 1 question: How do you handle the spray dust / overspray? Because it recently looked like you rolled up the booth right after painting, with all the dust still inside. That surely could cause issues. I personally always quickly pressure wash and let dry the inside before storage. I also wonder if the turbine system is actually truly able to keep all moisture out at constant volume?! Great video as always! Best wishes
Love your work! Always see great work from you. I’ve got a split bumper 1970 1/2 Camaro that I would love to have you do your work on. Great videos all the time. Great job
I’m hoping so. Not rushing into restoring it fast, rather take the time and do it right. I do most of the work myself mechanically but I have 0 skills with paint. Lol. Hypothetically what would you charge a fella to have you work body work, base, and clear for such a car? I live in Ohio and would love to trailer to your shop one day if you would be willing to paint and autograph lol the car.
I plan on using an inflatable booth inside my shop. I wonder if the wind moving the booth causes it to drop microscopic particles that causes fisheyes?
When would you be able to clean the surface when painting to avoid any fisheyes & etc? Is it before the base coat or the clear coat or both? I'm sorry if its a dumb question
The solvent gases are a real problem in environments where there is limited ventilation or ability to flush them out of a booth or garage and become a real headache…
quite literally a headache! I shot some adhesive for a headliner restoration, and despite full removal of the backing material to the driveway, no booth, and a windy day, i had a headache for 3 days.
Brian, I have a question. I painted my roof and I had a lot of these issues, but didn’t know how to fix it. I did the best I could but left it because I didn’t want to ruin it. I painted it a few months ago, can I still do this or do you need to do it in a certain time period? I really need to fix it but don’t want to repaint.
I've been watching your videos on & off for a while and I like your style. You seem to tell it like it is without sugar-coating it. To bad their wasn't a way to contact you directly. I have a few questions I'd like to ask you.
great channel, being learning through you videos and trying to follow along.. but, man, it's just not as easy as it looks.. wondering if you have some kind of forum, or platform going, so we newbies can maybe submit some photos for you to help troubleshooting XD (when you have time of course)
If you have broke through, could you just base that area and then clear or would you have to seal that breakthrough?And then clearly i'm sorry, seal that breakthrough, and then face and then clear?
Just seen a video of your and check your Chanel and your interactive, two day ago I see a utube of a tuber who brought his worst 1973 vette. I seen the color on it and I love that color.a few car came out with it. It's a peiver silver but more green to it. So I research it. That's the most look for old vette color it rare few came out . And I remember a Honda insite club that color was the most cherish color. In short I found that paint color but it small can. Would you like me to show you that color.? You can paint it I guarantee you many will ask if you can paint their car this color, it's a amazing metallic that a coss with silver and lite green
You see this right there is why i respect you sir,you show how it is and you also not just show your mistakes but you try everything to fix it and you are being humble about it while others only show the good jobs not bad that is why you are number one channel and the reason i started painting,you dont even know how much i learn from you.Thank you my mentor!
Love to hear it. Whenever I have something to show. I dont mind showing. It makes painting real. Its never perfect
Love the honesty. been there, will be there, will try not to be there.. thats all we can do.
I like your attitude on yore videos, and even if I'm an 80 year old man , I will keep watching your videos so I can learn how to finish my 1960 Impala 2 DR Hard Top before I died, and sell it to help my Grand sons with there college tuition, Thank you Brian,I will keep watching you videos, Tank You and God bless.
I like that you put your mistakes online I’m 53 years old. I’ve been hobby painting cars since I was 17. These things just happen. I don’t care how good you are or what type of equipment you have. I’ve beat myself up in the past. Pretty good, thanks for sharing.
I really appreciate your honesty, it's refreshing.
I was a pretty decent painter, I left that trade and joined the military (long story). I've always loved painting and have done a fair few side jobs in the camp workshop.
Less than ideal conditions, but with experience, you know what defects to expect and how to manage them. I tend to tack and whack, let it get dirty, DA 500g and flow coat, then cut and polish.
Like you said, it makes you feel like a beginner. You know you can do better, but everything is stacked against you. The lighting in that workshop is awful, so I'm always battling that.
Great video.
Thats the way to think man! We cant get caught up when things dont go well even if we paint it 3x lol!!!
12:00 At that point when you said "I'm not feeling good about this" That's when I would have stopped and said I'll do this another day. But hats off to you for pushing forward. I really enjoyed this clip. It hits closer to home with me. Honestly when I watch your videos in a proper spray booth I take what you do not so seriously because your in an environment i'm not able to be in. This was like watching my self lol Dressed to go fishing while spraying a bonnet. Honestly I am learning so much more from these videos and loving it. Thanks for all you do mate. Have an awesome New Years and I'll catch ya Next Year ;)
Great video, it's super helpful to learn how to fix these issues the diyer might run into!
I hope you enjoyed it and got something out of it!
Brian, your getting solvent pop from the high transfer efficiency of the turbine! Todays HS clears need smaller droplet sizes, so you gotta play with the settings on the turbine to achieve that. I spray with that same unit everyday in various environments, and you can get better results than what your getting bud!
Full PSI (unless your doing tight blends), turn that fan pattern in a bit, like 30-50% depending on what cap your using. Watch your distance and speed. Remember, you can’t change pressure, but changing speed, distance, and fluid will mimick it! I use a 1.0 tip and never run that fluid more than 1.25 turns out from fully closed. Usually 1-1 1/8th out. This combo will limit your “turbine peel” and allow you to spray closer and faster, thus laying down a thinner coat of clear that won’t solvent pop. Feel free to reach out if you wanna chat more about what I’ve learned over the years!
For someone who can spray with their eyes closed like Brian, or myself, it is incredibly difficult to go back and forth between turbine hvlp and shop air hvlp. A lesser experienced person would look at both operations and think they're 99% the same. Nope. I knew going from 1.3 to 1.0 nozzle could be problematic. Even though turbine hvlp is the original technology, the evolution has been to use stronger turbines and guns to match a little closer to shop hvlp but it's still tough. I cut my teeth with turbine spraying and after 25 years still struggle to paint with a shop gun. Brian has the absolute correct mindset, humility, and patience to share the struggle with the world. I think the best painters are their own toughest critic, no one will judge them harder than themselves. Keep up the great work!
This is why you are the goat man. Most would have never shown a job they weren't completely proud of, but everyone has issues from time to time. It looks great tho!
Ty! Thats why i like bringing things home and recording. Always bound to be an issue
Excellent series for the home painter.
A lot of different scenarios and troubleshooting.
I learn so much from these mistakes. More please! Thank you very much.
Great to hear. I am hoping that we can get it all finished up next episode
Some of you might know this but when you sand that flow coat layer, you now only have your top flow layers to sand. If you go below that into the original clear coat, it will show and you'll have to rebase.
You’re a good man Brian! We love you brother.
I'm not using my inflatable booth anymore, I've had nothing but problems with everything I've painted. Besides the weather has to be perfect to even use the thing
Brian, you are correct that the problem is that inflatable booth. The gases from the solvents cannot evaporate properly and they are getting trapped in that booth causing the fish eyes. I do not use any plastic sheathing or poly based coverings in my garage and I do not get fish eyes. I use Tyvek sheathing from home depot that absorbs the gases and does not trap the gases. I also use high flow turbo fans to circulate the air with 3m filtrate filters. It helps a lot 👍
Well the chemicals don’t soak in to metal in paint booths so explain that
I had the same issues when I painted my car, my problem was not giving enough time between coats and water on the system which you don’t have that to worry about.
End up sending the whole car and I will start over when the weather gets better up in the north. I have a long 4 months ahead of me until I can re prime and paint.
Think this way, at least you have the weather on your side 😅
this happened to me today and watching your video made me more excited to continue. thanks and keep up the great work.
Ah Brian. The things you do for your viewers. Hope you had a great Christmas with your beautiful family. Have a Happy New Year!!!
Hey Brian , Iam a painter of 38 years in a body shop . Your videos are always great to watch . Tip , try after a run has dried good priming it with lacquer primer from a spray can , let that be your guide coat and reapply if needed . After it’s out use alcohol wipes (devilbiss wipes )to wipe off excess and buff learned this about 25 years ago . And yes if your painting your gonna get a run now and then no biggie . This has always been a win for small runs all it takes is patience with the primer but it shows everything and protects the paint around it hope you can show this sometime . Keep up the great work you’re doing !!!! 😊
Thatsba great idea! Ty for watching my channel !
Imagine the whole paint booth taking flight and sending Brian for a bubble boy trip around Florida
Something is happening at the bubble boy's house.
I had an inflatable booth thing was okay for the first job then after suckedd , i ended up selling it , would not recommend , get better jobs painting under a tent lol , would just build a custom booth if i had too
thing does not suck air out good enough so there is overspray everywhere too
Full Respect to Brian for showing people what it’s really like in the Paint game ! .. Happy New Year from myself and my Apprentice at BMW UK
Happy new year!
Man I been through outdoor painting mishaps and weather changes so many times u truly have a very small window of perfect conditions
Well, technically he is not outdoor, he is in a booth so the elements did not affect him at all. I love his videos and I do think he is an awesome painter. And I am actually grateful that he shows mishaps because that is actually what happens, even if you are a great painter. He is one of the best. You might also wanna check out Scorpion paint and Garage Noise. Garage noise is good because he is more barebones with small almost single use filters from harbor freight and normal compressors.
Great video because you are honest about your job and the end result is really good, so thank you .
Blessings from Venezuela.
Brian!! Thanks so much for doing all these turbine sprayer videos. Really helps with my projects.
I am going to figure this thing out
That battery powered da looks super useful. Might have to replace my brushless rotary drill with that.
I love flow coats but always thought they should be 600-800 and recleared. 400 sounds way too aggressive.
I wonder if it was the Eastwood high solids clear coat that was a crazy amount of fisheyes
I have an inflatable and been very lucky with it as far as my results with it. I just wish it was a little easier to get up and running and the wind sucks, as you know. Great video as always. I appreciate when you show the mistakes and issues that you have. Makes the rest of us feel better about what we are doing.
Defintely real life situations, really glad I was able to connect more of my audience here and hopefully I can get better jobs out of the booth
I get the floor wet with water before I spray in my booth that way it keeps all the dust down and my jobs come out great . Another issue I found was the fans. I just get AC filter material and I cover the fans with one sheet to help it from getting all the trash in your job as well. It will suck dust into the booth without that filter in place.
Yup. Thats great advice to follow !
From my limited experience with turbines and painting. With a 5 or 6 stage unit you have to dial the fluid down quite a bit. With the BHS cap and mid solid clear i get good results between .75 to 1.25 turns out from fully closed with the 7700 gun from apollo with 0.8 or 1.0 tip at 7 psi of flow pressure. Since they operate at a lower atomizing pressure and have about 65cfrm compared to a regular spray gun, you end up with greater transfer efficiency but less atomizing pressure...so thats why you have to dial the fluid down.
I will try that out, thanks for the advice! Definitely a learning curve. I need to change my clear. Too thick
I agree with this advice as well. There’s a few people on You Tube, Jake Lesada
comes to mind in fact, that have turbine spraying down to a science. Like anything else it’s learning your equipment and dialing it it with practice. Love the videos and the transparency. You’re an amazing teacher. Keep up the great work, I’m looking forward to your next video.
thanks for showing your mistakes! I had a similar issue happen to a hood; it was a pain to correct it!
Spraying in that environment where you are basically drawing in air from outside has a high potential for contaminants to be drawn in the booth, also have you ever considered an LVLP gun, you spray a little slower but overspray is almost non existent compared to HVLP and you can still lay down a nice finish, HVLP is geared toward more high volume production work, I used HVLP for over 20 years and I was quite impressed with what I could do when I tried LVLP, again not as high production but for jobs in the home garage it offers some advantages and doesn't require a high capacity compressor to acheive very good results, I think that inflatable booth would work much better indoors in a more controlled environment, you got really lucky those fish eyes were shallow as they can be a real nightmare, don't ask me how I know, good job saving the hood.
Good on you showing quite how things can go. Things don't always go as well as you'd liked, but, BUT you can put it right. The main thing is knowing quite what went wrong and why. Good luck sorting out the run on the edge Brian, (I'd imagine that was done some time ago by now) I hate sanding lacquer runs 'cos if anyone will rub through, I will!
Have a Happy New Year dude.
Next video youll see!!
Love this channel. Great teacher!
Thanks for giving the inflatable booth and turbine spray system a try. We learned a few things. The paint surface looked um, not great ....from what I am seeing. Lot of texture and crud ...like you say. Not your fault. A booth swaying in the wind is far from ideal. But that's the kind of unexpected thing which can happen. How much dust was falling off the ceiling/roof? I would probably wear a head sock and paint suit to remove as many variables. Lot of dust can come off a painter. Ultimately painting at home is always a compromise. What CAN go wrong seems like it WILL go wrong. Good video. Thanks!
I have been really determined to get this turbine system to work, I blame it on user error right now because I know I can get a much better quality finish at home
I did my first paint job on my EK back in October and the roof turned out worse than the right side of this hood. Tons of dirt settled on it. I'm thankful for this vid. I haven't tried to fix it yet. I've been working on suspension and other areas. I'll hit the roof with 400/600, hopefully not burn through, and flow coat it.
Sounds like a good plan!
@PaintSociety You saved me from doing too much! Thanks again!
Sorry to hear the problems, it happens to all of us at some level, That fancy tankless compressor would make me skeptical for the containment…lubricant blow by in the turbines and in the lines.
you are a real teacher, you show how to fix the problem
Try my best !
very good work Brian 👍👍thanks you
I agree this is called flow coat, clear coat over sanded clear coat. I’ve seen some guys say that it isn’t, that a “flow coat” is when you over reduce your clear on your last coat.
I have heard a few different ways, but I know clear on clear is the best way to do it if you need to solve any dirt problems
I’ve been there a lot. Sometimes we have too large of trucks to bedliner and I’ve done them outside. Masking them up is always the worst part
That turbine is very interesting to say the least. Looks like not too bad though. I can imagine that thing isn’t easy to dial in.
Its been tough on these bigger parts
Brian, the inflatable booth seems like a nightmare. Would setting up a curtain wall system in the garage maybe workout better and add a portable ventilation system? When done you could just slide the curtain out of the way?
im curious to see how you deal with all those dirt spots because when i do my backyard paints jobs i get tons of em
I am going to flatten it with 1,000 then move up from there
Good job again dude 👍
Yeah I would be happy with it. But for me it would be one and done. You sir are a pro, so I would expect you to go for as close to perfect as possible.
My grandfather used to say 50 mph no one will be able to tell. No charge for the extra clear. "Runs"
Lol. He was right
That happened to me all the time until I decided to quit using cheap clear and using a higher end clear it makes a difference and cuts down on alot of unnecessary work
I think a great video idea would be to see if there is a difference with a waterborne paint in that booth versus all solvent based using your same process. You are a top notch painter, I think it is a chemistry issue with the gases, I could be wrong, just trying to isolate the culprit…
A friend was just telling me about a trick to get a run out. He said he piled body filler on it then sanded it down and the body filler protects the adjacent clear that’s the right thickness, and as you sand it away, it’s like a guide coat almost. Do you use this method? Know it? If so can you show it? I think I understand it. But seeing it would be awesome.
I saw a video where a guy made a couple support to tighten up the spray booth to keep it from collapsing. He probably used 6 2x4's in total. What he did was make a horseshoe style brace and placed it against the walls and ceiling next to the air columns which keeps it tight and right even if you lose power
Looks to my eye that you have to apply those passes really slow with the turbine to get a decent flow, but experience will improve that.
Geez these inflatable booths look like they might be better done in a garage space.. outdoors, youre gonna wind up like a hamster ball... OMG... Thanks for all the insights.. Happy New Year!!! !
I've had all the same problems with the inflatable booth now it's just outside I gave up on it 😐
Is this the longest bonnet paint in history lol. Brian you have had little luck on this one but it will get there 👍
I’m interested to know after sanding,how much thickness of paint and or clear coat is left? Surely it must be borderline,as opposed to a correctly finished spray job?
Love the shih tzu at 16:38 lol
Rocky has been there with me for the toughest of times 🤓
The neighbor cooking chicharron and all thr fumes getting to the booth.... 😅
Yeah it doesn't take much wind to make the booth move especially when it comes at it from the sides. I always faced mine into the wind and I used straps (like 30) from the top loops and the bottom loops and then into the ground with metal stakes. I also cleaned the booth with a damp cloth/broom and blower after each job and always again before. Using a booth I feel like you have to be militant about everything if you want it to come out decent.
Dont like the way that gun sprays at all, too much of an orangepeel surface for my flowcoat. I would probably add a little reducer for that nozzle, or maybe a bit more pressure?
Was spraying straight cottage cheese out of the gun. I don't know anything about those guns but i can read a paint job. Either needs more psi, another ½ part of reducer. Also needs a slower reducer/hardener. You can see how dry the opposite side of the hood is when he's going over it with the following coat. Clear should be melting in at that point.
I am going to change the clear and some settings on the gun. I cant get the hang of it
@@PaintSociety what clear are you using, hardeners (temp) and what ratio?
The last three times i sprayed, i got wicked fisheyes. Presumably contaminated air since i dont use a trap or filter, but man it sucks
I have 1 question:
How do you handle the spray dust / overspray?
Because it recently looked like you rolled up the booth right after painting, with all the dust still inside.
That surely could cause issues.
I personally always quickly pressure wash and let dry the inside before storage.
I also wonder if the turbine system is actually truly able to keep all moisture out at constant volume?!
Great video as always!
Best wishes
Plz upload the sanding and polishing video. just painted a truck in my drive way and it came out the same as yours!!😭 helpful video though!!!
Love your work! Always see great work from you. I’ve got a split bumper 1970 1/2 Camaro that I would love to have you do your work on. Great videos all the time. Great job
Thank you! That's a great project, I bet it would look awesome when it's finished!
I’m hoping so. Not rushing into restoring it fast, rather take the time and do it right. I do most of the work myself mechanically but I have 0 skills with paint. Lol. Hypothetically what would you charge a fella to have you work body work, base, and clear for such a car? I live in Ohio and would love to trailer to your shop one day if you would be willing to paint and autograph lol the car.
I finish in 800 for flow coating. I believe that’s what most paint companies recommend for clear on clear
I plan on using an inflatable booth inside my shop. I wonder if the wind moving the booth causes it to drop microscopic particles that causes fisheyes?
When would you be able to clean the surface when painting to avoid any fisheyes & etc? Is it before the base coat or the clear coat or both? I'm sorry if its a dumb question
Hi Brian
How many coats do you apply when flow coating?
Please drop a vidio on how to sand and polish property. Thank you!
I just did. Check my last video
The solvent gases are a real problem in environments where there is limited ventilation or ability to flush them out of a booth or garage and become a real headache…
quite literally a headache! I shot some adhesive for a headliner restoration, and despite full removal of the backing material to the driveway, no booth, and a windy day, i had a headache for 3 days.
Just curious, what clear coat are you using?
What grit did you use to stand it before the flow coat? Cheers bro
Brian, I have a question. I painted my roof and I had a lot of these issues, but didn’t know how to fix it. I did the best I could but left it because I didn’t want to ruin it. I painted it a few months ago, can I still do this or do you need to do it in a certain time period? I really need to fix it but don’t want to repaint.
What happened to the smaller inflatable booth you had in your garage when you painted your brother in-laws corvette?
This is the same one
I've been watching your videos on & off for a while and I like your style. You seem to tell it like it is without sugar-coating it. To bad their wasn't a way to contact you directly. I have a few questions I'd like to ask you.
Paint.society on IG
Excellent. Have a question, do you use reducer in the clear coat?
I try never to.
I will be in South Florida next month! What part of Florida are you at??
Broward county! Come see me man
@ I will be a week in Fort Lauderdale and a week in Pompano Beach. Not far from
You
Message me on IG. Paint.society
Hello please make a video how to paint calipers Thank you very much
That’s what 25 out of 30 of our painters jobs look like in a four hundred thousand dollar paint booth
great channel, being learning through you videos and trying to follow along.. but, man, it's just not as easy as it looks.. wondering if you have some kind of forum, or platform going, so we newbies can maybe submit some photos for you to help troubleshooting XD (when you have time of course)
What about using the inflatable booth in the garage?
It hits the ceiling
If you have broke through, could you just base that area and then clear or would you have to seal that breakthrough?And then clearly i'm sorry, seal that breakthrough, and then face and then clear?
Hi Brian l a spray painter based in Zimbabwe how can get that type of a sander
Great video
You know I am all about that base, about that base…all trouble 😂
Hahaha!
Was this. 4-1 clear ? I had kinda the same issues with runs and the orange peel ish finish on a tahoe long story . I was using a fuji turbine
4:1 yes
In future videos I can see the questions and answers…
Brian don’t you use the bow up booth anymore.
No I don’t it has too many issues lol
Oils could be blowing up from the underside of the hood causing the fish eye
Inflatable booth: 3
Brian : 0
I put twenty five pound weights in each corner, but I wrapped them in a garbage bag so I wouldn't get overspray on my weights kept the floor down
How many panels can you sand with the battery D/A?
About 2. Complete hard core. For scuffing. About 5
A PVC frame I side of the tent would make it great.
Or line the bottom of the tent with sandbags or bricks and strap the tops.
What’s the Milwaukee part number for that da sander?
2585-22cx
@ thanks I just ordered it.
It's the degreaser you're using as ive used it and all I had was issues. Never using it again.
Make a pvc frame
At some angles it looks like there is some stripping in the paint color. Is that just a camera thing or is it there in real life?
I saw that too. It looks good in person.
@PaintSociety awesome. Enjoying the series so far
The inventor of Flow Coat” Jon Kosmoski sand 600p add 5-10% reducer apply 3 coats. The reducer helps “Flow” out. Without reducer just called re-clear
Always wondered! Ty!!
@ Welcome
Air contamination?
Just seen a video of your and check your Chanel and your interactive, two day ago I see a utube of a tuber who brought his worst 1973 vette. I seen the color on it and I love that color.a few car came out with it. It's a peiver silver but more green to it. So I research it. That's the most look for old vette color it rare few came out . And I remember a Honda insite club that color was the most cherish color. In short I found that paint color but it small can. Would you like me to show you that color.? You can paint it I guarantee you many will ask if you can paint their car this color, it's a amazing metallic that a coss with silver and lite green
*You know Brian's for real if he'll let you see him without his ... **_"make-up on."_** hahahaha LOL*
Can you paint a whole car?Will the turbine?