I don’t know what’s worst. The saints trading all those picks to Washington for Ricky Williams. Or Washington not being able to build a winning team from all those picks.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx they eventually got Denzel ward out of it he’s pretty good you’ll have to check that trade tree again but they also traded the 12th pick the got from the eagles to Houston and they drafted deshaun
@@HomieNathan1387 you’re right. The article I was using has the 2018 picks listed paragraphs away from the 2016 and 2017 picks they acquired. Still the hit rate on those picks they got is unfathomably low. You could also throw in that Peppers was the only player in the Odell Beckham trade although that required a number of their own picks as well and didn’t pan out.
@@crushedscouter9522 that's what a lot of "experts" were saying. I remember hearing them say the Steelers reached for him, and besides a high motor and the last name Watt, he was a late 2nd rounder at best.
Anyone remember Buffalo in 2014 trading their 2015 first to Cleveland to move up from 9 to 4 to draft Sammy Watkins? They could have stayed at 9 and drafted OBJ instead.
In case anyone is wondering what the difference between Doug Whaley and Brandon Beane is look no further. As if Sammy Watkins was gonna help EJ Manuel not be terrible. The only good thing to come out of that fiasco was local sports talk callers losing their f’ing minds lol.
Haven’t even watch the full video and was thinking Sammy Watkins trade they gave up a lot and never got a good return from Sammy and set them back a couple of years and what’s real crazy is that the 2014 nfl draft was a Wr factory
Which time? It's only happened around 7 or 8 times now, yet he keeps recovering because to many people get fake angry and forget 5 minutes later. Remember the jpp story
@@super8bitvideos It’s how this channel and every football channel get their stories. It’s a MULTI BILLION dollar industry. It’s a *little* important that you maintain a certain amount of credibility I don’t know of anyone that goes around quoting skip, except to laugh at him. People make entire industries based around the tweets of Ian rapport, Adam Schefter and the like. My wasted energy amounted to a quippy post and a single reply I sent out- both times whilst on the toilet
@@calemcconnell7735 thank you I had forgotten the specifics of the JPP story. I was also appalled that they leaked confidential medical information. How was he not sued??
you forgot the Jets trading up for Sam Darnold while the Colts used the first and second round picks they got in exchange from the draft to get Quenton Nelson and Darius Leonard
I believe we actually used those picks for Nelson and Braden Smith. Leonard was our original 2nd round pick. I could be wrong. Still a great fucking haul when you get a perennial All-Pro and a starter (should be an All-Star - Smith) And then we got a 2nd rounder the next year who we selected Ya-Sin (CB) who we just traded for DE Yannick Ngakoue (10+ sacks for the Raiders last year) Pretty lop sided trade hahaha
I can confirm that everyone at the 2017 draft was stunned when that Trubisky deal was announced. I was prepared for him to head to the Jets & laugh hysterically.
As a Bears fan myself I was legit pissed when I heard the name especially after the trade up. and ive seen the Bears screw up a ton of picks for Quarterback and offensive players in the first round since ive been alive. Most notably Cedric Benson Rex Grossman Cade Mcnown Gabe Carimi Chris Williams from Vanderbilt Curtis Conway Curtis Enis David Terrell and Kevin White.
@@lambdalambdalambdaa Yeah of course, all these trades can only be criticized in hindsight. I'm just saying in the year 2022 Henry has way more value than those two guys combined, and trading up for Goff can only be considered a bad move overall IMO
@@scrub_jay it doesn’t matter if Henry is worth more than those two. The team already had an RB. They were never going to take an RB where they were. The point of hindsight is to still be logical.
@@chase_saddy I'm not implying they should have taken Henry. I just think it's fun to think about the large ripple effects that these trades sometimes have. The trade up for Goff was heavily criticized at the time and IMO those critics have been proven right.
Only as a coach. He was a god as a player. Probably one of the few players of his era that would stand a chance in the modern league. Hed probably be a running back or slot reciever if he played today though
It happened during the season but…that was a terrible trade. Minnesota gave up too much and the fine print killed them. If the players they traded didn’t make the cowboys team, they’d get extra picks. So Dallas cut them and then resigned them and still got the picks. Cold blooded.
Just feels kind of dumb to call a trade bad because a player eventually got hurt. Washington traded a lot but rg3 was phenomenal and looked well worth it until bad luck.
RG3 was good, but they took a Ferrari off-roading with that swamp of a field they have. They literally have the worst field in the league. They have worse turf than most D2 college teams. My two local community colleges have better fields than an NFL team. It's almost a perfect symbol of how bad an organization they are, if it weren't for how much deeper they keep digging the hole of bad.
Go balls deep as to why, historically running backs have such a short lived and concentrated career - Bonus points for mentioning the NFL's departure from a teams full use of a fullback.
Probably why running backs don't last as much anymore. No one uses a lead blocker, leaves the runner exposed. If you got the right back then that's cool but not many RBs are better off that way. Except Barry most every other back of the 90's had that lead blocker. Imagine Emmitt without Moose
Check out 8:14 where it shows that Elroy Hirsch and Bill Groman caught 17 TD's in one season in 1951 and 1961 respectively. Incredible since not only was the game so different back then, but the season was several games shorter (only 12 games I think).
@@thatsgoodsports Imagine this turns into one of these bad trades. With the afc west as competitive as its looking to be, would missing the playoffs every year and not having those 3 first round picks look bad in the future.
@@Hut9111 you never know. A lot of things can happen. Russell Wilson has to be really good for a while for the Broncos to win the trade. We all expect that to happen but it might not. I was going to say that Wilson could get struck by lightning. But that is an act of god so that wouldn't happen.
You forgot Cowboys trading up to get Quincy Carter. Then his college coach revealed they were going to bench Carter the next season and encouraged him to enter the draft.
The Jets trading up 3 spots for Sam Darnold from 6 with the Colts in 2018 is an all time fleece as well. The return for Indy included a Hall of Fame caliber OG (Nelson) and a very good RT (Braden Smith).
9:18 well...the falcons had already done that, in the 1999 draft sending a 1st round pick to the ravens for a 2nd so they could draft a blocking TE they really wanted but didn't pan out, the falcons crashed and burned that year making it a top 5 pick for baltimore...who would go on to use it for jamal lewis you know...one of the most underrated RBs of all time who'd go on to make the 2000 club and be a key factor in the raven's super bowl-winning year
That Broncos trade for a 2nd is even worse because it was infamously done before by the Bucs back in the 80s. They traded a first rounder in the next draft to get a guy in the 2nd who unsurprisingly did not pan out. Meanwhile the Bears got an extra 1st rounder in the famously loaded 83 draft for their trouble. Now they used that pick to take Willie Gault but there were several future pro bowlers still on the board (and taken by other teams right after Gault) the Bucs could have had with that pick, even a couple HOF like Dan Marino.
The Ryan Pace era for the Bears is a litany of bad draft day trades. Like when they traded up 2 spots to draft Leonard Floyd, then cut him 3 seasons later because reasons, so he goes to Los Angeles and helps them win a Super Bowl.
The entire time you were talking about Ricky Williams and Mike Ditka I was thinking about the Bengals refusing to trade so they could get Akili Smith but WHAT DO YOU KNOW MY BOY PERNA ALREADY IS ALL OVER THIS STORY lmfao pain
The worst trade on draft day has got to be Mike Ditka HC for the N.O. saints in 1999. Mike traded all of his draft picks. To draft one player Ricky Williams.
These videos are great! As Denver is getting new fans with Russell Wilson coming to the Broncos I think it would be cool for you to make a brief history of the franchise to catch up a brand new fan.
History is Broncos were a respectable team who had won 2 Super Bowls. Now they have russel Wilson and as a consequence of having a useless 5 foot 8.9 inch tall qb they have become terrible. Fricken hilarious! Russel Wilson is a joke so glad he’s proving who he truly is in Denver. ❤
Honorable mention: the Rams acquiring the 1st overall pick in 2016 from the Titans. Hindsight is 20/20, since the Rams did win a Super Bowl ring thanks to Jared Goff trade, but it's the asset management of this trade that deserves a mention. The Rams gave up 6 draft picks over 2 years, 2 picks also in the first round, in exchange for the 1st overall pick (Jared Goff), a 4th and 6th round pick. Although the Rams recouped value by trading for Matt Stafford, the haul they gave to the Titans just to draft Goff was way too much. Goff has been a serviceable QB at best, and even took the Rams to the Super Bowl, only to fall to the freaking Patriots. Then, the massive contract extension came, and Goff's play began to decline. For Stafford's services, the Rams had to surrender Goff and 2 more 1st rounders (2022 and 2023) and a 3rd round pick, which became Ifeatu Melifonwu. Although the Rams won a ring with Stafford, time will tell if the Rams overpaid for that ring. The 4th and 6th round picks never amounted to anything. The 4th round pick was traded to the Bears for Nick Kwiatkoski, a forgettable LB, while the 6th round pick turned into TE Temmarick Hemingway, who is practice squad fodder for his career. With the benefit of hindsight, can you imagine if the Rams had Dak Prescott as their QB? (Prescott was taken 22 picks after Kwiatkoski) What did the Titans do with their picks? The Titans flipped the 1st round pick they got from the Rams to take Jack Conklin, a solid tackle which they erred by letting him sign with the Browns. Ironically, the pick they gave to the Browns from the Rams turned into Corey Coleman, who is known better as the last in a string of Browns draft busts in the early 2010s. The Rams had 2 second round picks, one from the Sam Bradford trade (43rd overall), which the Titans used to select Austin Jackson, a defensive lineman. However, the 45th overall pick, which originally belonged to the Rams, became Derrick Henry. Henry is the pivot of a resurging Titans offense, so this is one pick the Rams may want back. The 3rd round pick was traded to the Browns, who selected Shon Coleman, an offensive lineman now playing for the Colts as a rotation player. This is all from 2016. The Titans used the 2017 first round pick on Corey Davis, who is a serviceable wideout, but got overshadowed by AJ Brown and Adam Humphries once they joined the team. Davis is now a Jet. The third round pick from 2017 was used to select Jonnu Smith, a TE who played well enough on the Titans to earn a massive pay day from the Patriots, where he remains today. In exchange for Jared Goff, the Titans got serviceable careers from Jack Conklin, Austin Jackson, Derrick Henry, Corey Davis and Jonnu Smith. Although only Henry remains on the roster, the fact the Titans are still in Super Bowl contention says a lot about their asset management. Also on a side note, Goff is currently the latest player drafted in the first round by the Rams, and unless the Rams do not trade their pick, their next 1st round pick will be in 2024. EDIT: Typos.
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Nice list and production! I wanted to add an observation, seems like that RG3 trade pick was just destined to be wasted because of all the ones it turned into just nothing. It is hard to question this pick though considering he looked to be the next Mike Vick and who wouldn't have traded that to have a second chance at Vick. A lot of these seems like pretty big gambles that might have paid off, but I often wonder is there a secret list of prospects that scouts get paid to inflate to eat up these kinds of picks? I wonder if Ditka was dealing with CTE? Also wondering if Williams was an emotional pick considering all the hell he had to endure with not letting Payton carry more in the super bowl? Ricky was hella good but he had to have known that the Saints roster was not the kind you can't usher in a healthy draft class. It is so weird because he knew that he won the super bowl without using a star running back!
I can't blame anybody though for not taking Lamar Jackson.. like he's an athletic freak but that's all he had coming into the league, then a huge fumbling issue, no one could have foreseen a turn around like he had coming into his second season
@@MrRyan-wu4jx oh really?! So that make all the difference in the pros right!? Omg, no one has ever busted in the pros with a great college career! You're really stupid you know that? Thinking every college athlete can play pro just cause they were good in college
Salivating over the thought of the Bengals getting an entire draft like that with the monstrous team building capabilities of Duke Tobin. If we took a trade like that today, oh man CIN would become a monster
The worst part of the Ricky Williams trade was that the browns were an expansion team that year with the 1st overall pick. How much would Cleveland history changed had THEY traded for the saints draft class?
The big one is Trey Lance cause of what they could of done with those pics imagine the team they would have this year... dynasty worst than hershall walker trade
The thing most people forget is that the Saints offer was to anybody picking before Ricky Williams was picked, and it took til pick 5 for someone to say, "All your this year picks for my First, plus a lot of your good picks next year as well, to say.....ok". How could The Browns pass on that instead of taking Tim Couch? They could have had double draft picks each round plus a extra 1st & 3nd the next season. The team that doesn't get the grief they should are the Colts. They just drafted Payton Manning a few years before and could have had double picks to help him. They, unlike most teams who said no at least hit a homerun taking the First running back off the board in Edgerrin James! Before I go, do you think a college player will ever have a team so in love this could happen again???
Trading your entire draft for any player that doesn't turn out to be a hall of fame QB is massively stupid. Really wish history didn't remember that my Bengals were stupid enough NOT to take the Saints up on this trade. The less the world remember about how bad Akili Smith sucked, the better.
That's understandable but in that period, the Bengals were really bad at drafting so I imagine if they did take them up, it could've been more embarrassing.
I'll never understand his reasoning behind that. I mean, I understand why he wanted Ricky Williams. But it's called "negotiation." You don't announce to the world that you will do anything for the Redskins' pick, you go to the team and say, "What is your price?" And then go from there. Remember the Ferengi Third Rule of Acquisition - Never pay more for an acquisition than you have to.
I'd love to know what the Bengals thought process was in turning down Ditka's trade offer. QB might be the most important position, I don't believe there is a QB that is worth giving up 9 draft picks.
There were teams wanting to trade with San Fran for that #2 pick. So San Fran called up Chicago and let them know what they were offered and Chicago made the move. Smart by San Fran, they got who they really wanted AND extra picks.
If there is one thing I've learned is there is no guarantee that just because someone is good in college, its gonna automatically translate into being good in the NFL, how many 1st rounders have we seen just in the last decade, come in on a wave of hype only to fizzle out within 2 seasons?
honestly you could do an entire video on the last decade + of broncos drafting. outside of von miller, DT and a handful of decent situational/rotational players, they've whiffed on just about every pick as far back as i can remember.
The worst pick I remember was Atlanta trading their first round pick next year for a blocking Tight End That ended up being Jamal Lewis a top five pick and one of the few back to rush for 2000 yards in a season
As a young Bengals fan, it killed me when they wouldn't take 9 picks for their spot(they were in the top 5 all the time) We suffer so we know when the good times are here. Who Dey!!
Hope you aren't too stressed about the score, it is only one of many things colleges consider, and once you get in, no one will ever give a fuck about your score ever again! :)
The Jerome Bettis trade comes to mind Traded to Pittsburgh Running back Jerome Bettis 1996 third round pick (72nd overall, used to select Steve Conley) Traded to St. Louis 1996 second round pick (59th overall, used to select Ernie Conwell) 1997 fourth round pick (121st overall, later traded to the Miami Dolphins, used to select Jerome Daniels; the Rams received the 112nd pick in exchange, used on Ryan Tucker)
I think ditka did it because he came from the dominant running back ers of Jim Brown becomes Walter becomes Eric Dickerson becomes Barry/Emmit. If he'd have landed that kind of career out of Ricky, maybe it's justified. Huge gamble tho. Also, I think he just didn't wanna bother with dickering with his scouts over 6th rounders thru 12th rounders and just decided to take the rest of the day off.
Have you done win-win trades? I'm thinking of two, Eli Manning & Philip Rivers, and Stefon Diggs to Buffalo for 1st round pick that the Vikings turned into Justin Jefferson.
4:35 Also Jeff Fisher being a jokester sent out 3 of the players they acquired using the picks they got in the trade for RG3 the next time they played Washington 2 years later.
Should do a video on Warrick Dunn or Simeon Rice. Warrick does/did a lot for single moms. Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin used to go to Africa and do humanitarian work.
I don’t know what’s worst. The saints trading all those picks to Washington for Ricky Williams. Or Washington not being able to build a winning team from all those picks.
Asking the real questions here
Washington, because at least Ricky Williams is cool.
It’s the same thing with the Eagles trading up with the Browns to draft Wentz. The Browns got a ton but all their picks ended up scrubs.
@@MrRyan-wu4jx they eventually got Denzel ward out of it he’s pretty good you’ll have to check that trade tree again but they also traded the 12th pick the got from the eagles to Houston and they drafted deshaun
@@HomieNathan1387 you’re right. The article I was using has the 2018 picks listed paragraphs away from the 2016 and 2017 picks they acquired. Still the hit rate on those picks they got is unfathomably low. You could also throw in that Peppers was the only player in the Odell Beckham trade although that required a number of their own picks as well and didn’t pan out.
As a Packers fan trading down in the draft in 2017 to select Kevin King when we could've had TJ Watt is pretty painful to think about
As a Pittsburgh fan. Thank you 😂
Not a trade, but as a cowboys fan we took Taco Charlton over TJ Watt. Feels bad
Nooooo tj was only drafted because of his name. He doesn't have any real talent🤣🤣
@@crushedscouter9522 that's what a lot of "experts" were saying. I remember hearing them say the Steelers reached for him, and besides a high motor and the last name Watt, he was a late 2nd rounder at best.
@@crushedscouter9522he broke the sack record one more times than you ever will…
A man of his word. Dropped after GPS.
Anyone remember Buffalo in 2014 trading their 2015 first to Cleveland to move up from 9 to 4 to draft Sammy Watkins? They could have stayed at 9 and drafted OBJ instead.
But if EJ Manuel just had a reciever to throw to they were on the brink of greatness...ugh
In case anyone is wondering what the difference between Doug Whaley and Brandon Beane is look no further. As if Sammy Watkins was gonna help EJ Manuel not be terrible. The only good thing to come out of that fiasco was local sports talk callers losing their f’ing minds lol.
Haven’t even watch the full video and was thinking Sammy Watkins trade they gave up a lot and never got a good return from Sammy and set them back a couple of years and what’s real crazy is that the 2014 nfl draft was a Wr factory
You forgot the one where Adam Schefter traded his credibility to get A nonstory delivered before anyone else could
Which time? It's only happened around 7 or 8 times now, yet he keeps recovering because to many people get fake angry and forget 5 minutes later. Remember the jpp story
@@Giantsfanlewis that was fucked up he was posting his medical diagnosis report, like have some respect for peoples privacy
Why even care what an insider has to say? You do know they're talking heads right? No different than Skip. Wasting your energy.
@@super8bitvideos It’s how this channel and every football channel get their stories. It’s a MULTI BILLION dollar industry. It’s a *little* important that you maintain a certain amount of credibility
I don’t know of anyone that goes around quoting skip, except to laugh at him. People make entire industries based around the tweets of Ian rapport, Adam Schefter and the like.
My wasted energy amounted to a quippy post and a single reply I sent out- both times whilst on the toilet
@@calemcconnell7735 thank you I had forgotten the specifics of the JPP story. I was also appalled that they leaked confidential medical information. How was he not sued??
Loving these Balls Deep episodes, you and Will are killing it. Keep up the great work!
let's get this post to 69 likes and stop
Whose will?
you forgot the Jets trading up for Sam Darnold while the Colts used the first and second round picks they got in exchange from the draft to get Quenton Nelson and Darius Leonard
God I hate supporting the Jets. I'm not even from America and could have chosen any team. Someone should have warned me and now its too late
I believe we actually used those picks for Nelson and Braden Smith. Leonard was our original 2nd round pick. I could be wrong. Still a great fucking haul when you get a perennial All-Pro and a starter (should be an All-Star - Smith)
And then we got a 2nd rounder the next year who we selected Ya-Sin (CB) who we just traded for DE Yannick Ngakoue (10+ sacks for the Raiders last year) Pretty lop sided trade hahaha
What part of DRAFT DAY did you not understand? The trade wasn't made on draft day.
That tebow pass gets me every time.
I can confirm that everyone at the 2017 draft was stunned when that Trubisky deal was announced. I was prepared for him to head to the Jets & laugh hysterically.
As a Bears fan myself I was legit pissed when I heard the name especially after the trade up. and ive seen the Bears screw up a ton of picks for Quarterback and offensive players in the first round since ive been alive. Most notably Cedric Benson Rex Grossman Cade Mcnown Gabe Carimi Chris Williams from Vanderbilt Curtis Conway Curtis Enis David Terrell and Kevin White.
As a Jet fan, I am supposed to be offended but I am way too honest with myself.
It’s still a better pick than fields at 11.
@@95roadieI never thought it would be funnier than Mitch trubisky but then they got Justin fields oh my gosh 😂😂😂😂😂😊
When the Rams traded up for Jared Goff, one of the picks they sent to Tennessee became Derrick Henry
Ok?... Jared Goff took them to the Super Bowl. And they also had Todd Gurley at the time i think so they wouldn't have taken him anyway.
@@lambdalambdalambdaa Yeah of course, all these trades can only be criticized in hindsight. I'm just saying in the year 2022 Henry has way more value than those two guys combined, and trading up for Goff can only be considered a bad move overall IMO
@@scrub_jay it doesn’t matter if Henry is worth more than those two. The team already had an RB. They were never going to take an RB where they were. The point of hindsight is to still be logical.
@@chase_saddy I'm not implying they should have taken Henry. I just think it's fun to think about the large ripple effects that these trades sometimes have. The trade up for Goff was heavily criticized at the time and IMO those critics have been proven right.
I would’ve gone with Henry
Mike Ditka is one of the most carried individuals in American sports history
I'm a Ditka fan, and 8 concur. He rode on the coattails of others, no doubt.
Only as a coach. He was a god as a player. Probably one of the few players of his era that would stand a chance in the modern league. Hed probably be a running back or slot reciever if he played today though
As a vikings fan, I feel obligated to mention the hershel walker trade.
Yeah...
It happened during the season but…that was a terrible trade. Minnesota gave up too much and the fine print killed them. If the players they traded didn’t make the cowboys team, they’d get extra picks. So Dallas cut them and then resigned them and still got the picks. Cold blooded.
Didn’t happen during the draft but got ya
I've been telling niners fans it's similar to the Lance trade so I can cope when I think about it. Hahahah
Not on draft day
"wasn't as expensive as they expected... they gave up their entire draft this year" I'm dead
Just feels kind of dumb to call a trade bad because a player eventually got hurt. Washington traded a lot but rg3 was phenomenal and looked well worth it until bad luck.
washington did that to rg3. wasn’t bad luck
RG3 was good, but they took a Ferrari off-roading with that swamp of a field they have. They literally have the worst field in the league. They have worse turf than most D2 college teams. My two local community colleges have better fields than an NFL team. It's almost a perfect symbol of how bad an organization they are, if it weren't for how much deeper they keep digging the hole of bad.
@@jamesyates4836 I've got to agree. Their field is notoriously terrible and their history of handling player injuries might actually be worse.
@@mrrodriguezHLP good analogy.
@@mrrodriguezHLP even if the turf was good it should outlawed in schools and the nfl. That stuff has destroyed more careers than CTE.
Go balls deep as to why, historically running backs have such a short lived and concentrated career - Bonus points for mentioning the NFL's departure from a teams full use of a fullback.
go
This please
Probably why running backs don't last as much anymore. No one uses a lead blocker, leaves the runner exposed. If you got the right back then that's cool but not many RBs are better off that way. Except Barry most every other back of the 90's had that lead blocker. Imagine Emmitt without Moose
Check out 8:14 where it shows that Elroy Hirsch and Bill Groman caught 17 TD's in one season in 1951 and 1961 respectively.
Incredible since not only was the game so different back then, but the season was several games shorter (only 12 games I think).
The Texans under Bill O'Brien would trade a future's worth of draft picks and star players for a half eaten ham sandwich and a bag of smashed chips.
Brandon “ I need some of Jamarcus Russell’s lean to understand these trades” Perna
It's adorable Rosen tried to expand on Rodgers' "I'll make the Niners regret not drafting me" bit.
Bradon "You know what wasn't a bad trade Russell Wilson to the Broncos" Perna
Edit: This aged like milk
Best trade ever
@@thatsgoodsports Imagine this turns into one of these bad trades. With the afc west as competitive as its looking to be, would missing the playoffs every year and not having those 3 first round picks look bad in the future.
@@Hut9111 lol
@@Hut9111 you never know. A lot of things can happen. Russell Wilson has to be really good for a while for the Broncos to win the trade. We all expect that to happen but it might not.
I was going to say that Wilson could get struck by lightning. But that is an act of god so that wouldn't happen.
Yet
You forgot Cowboys trading up to get Quincy Carter. Then his college coach revealed they were going to bench Carter the next season and encouraged him to enter the draft.
The Jets trading up 3 spots for Sam Darnold from 6 with the Colts in 2018 is an all time fleece as well. The return for Indy included a Hall of Fame caliber OG (Nelson) and a very good RT (Braden Smith).
Every draft game I played I drafted nelson first
Nelson is an animal. I expected him to go before 6 that year. The colts won that for sure
Don't forget, we got Rock Ya-Sin the next year who we traded for a 10+ sack DE Yannick Ngakoue
9:18 well...the falcons had already done that, in the 1999 draft sending a 1st round pick to the ravens for a 2nd so they could draft a blocking TE they really wanted but didn't pan out, the falcons crashed and burned that year making it a top 5 pick for baltimore...who would go on to use it for jamal lewis you know...one of the most underrated RBs of all time who'd go on to make the 2000 club and be a key factor in the raven's super bowl-winning year
Ravens fan here I was extremely grateful and yes he is very underrated on the football field
Yay I love these types of videos from you.
Thanks!
That Broncos trade for a 2nd is even worse because it was infamously done before by the Bucs back in the 80s. They traded a first rounder in the next draft to get a guy in the 2nd who unsurprisingly did not pan out.
Meanwhile the Bears got an extra 1st rounder in the famously loaded 83 draft for their trouble. Now they used that pick to take Willie Gault but there were several future pro bowlers still on the board (and taken by other teams right after Gault) the Bucs could have had with that pick, even a couple HOF like Dan Marino.
As a cards fan... like the flash of rozen... when talking about moving on from him a year later.. best move we ever did
Best sports writing and presenting on RUclips.
The Ryan Pace era for the Bears is a litany of bad draft day trades. Like when they traded up 2 spots to draft Leonard Floyd, then cut him 3 seasons later because reasons, so he goes to Los Angeles and helps them win a Super Bowl.
Unfortunately, that era had been longer than just Ryan Pace. But you are right.
I'm loving these Perna I think it'd be awesome if you guys did a series on some of the major trade trees that have happened in the NFL.
The entire time you were talking about Ricky Williams and Mike Ditka I was thinking about the Bengals refusing to trade so they could get Akili Smith but WHAT DO YOU KNOW MY BOY PERNA ALREADY IS ALL OVER THIS STORY lmfao pain
Imagine what they could have done!
@@thatsgoodsports probably nothing they were hopeless back then
Brilliant video man. Your humor is underrated.
The worst trade on draft day has got to be Mike Ditka HC for the N.O. saints in 1999. Mike traded all of his draft picks. To draft one player Ricky Williams.
These videos are great! As Denver is getting new fans with Russell Wilson coming to the Broncos I think it would be cool for you to make a brief history of the franchise to catch up a brand new fan.
History is
Broncos were a respectable team who had won 2 Super Bowls. Now they have russel Wilson and as a consequence of having a useless 5 foot 8.9 inch tall qb they have become terrible. Fricken hilarious! Russel Wilson is a joke so glad he’s proving who he truly is in Denver. ❤
Loving the Balls Deep episodes! Good shit Brandon
Honorable mention: the Rams acquiring the 1st overall pick in 2016 from the Titans. Hindsight is 20/20, since the Rams did win a Super Bowl ring thanks to Jared Goff trade, but it's the asset management of this trade that deserves a mention. The Rams gave up 6 draft picks over 2 years, 2 picks also in the first round, in exchange for the 1st overall pick (Jared Goff), a 4th and 6th round pick.
Although the Rams recouped value by trading for Matt Stafford, the haul they gave to the Titans just to draft Goff was way too much. Goff has been a serviceable QB at best, and even took the Rams to the Super Bowl, only to fall to the freaking Patriots. Then, the massive contract extension came, and Goff's play began to decline. For Stafford's services, the Rams had to surrender Goff and 2 more 1st rounders (2022 and 2023) and a 3rd round pick, which became Ifeatu Melifonwu. Although the Rams won a ring with Stafford, time will tell if the Rams overpaid for that ring.
The 4th and 6th round picks never amounted to anything. The 4th round pick was traded to the Bears for Nick Kwiatkoski, a forgettable LB, while the 6th round pick turned into TE Temmarick Hemingway, who is practice squad fodder for his career. With the benefit of hindsight, can you imagine if the Rams had Dak Prescott as their QB? (Prescott was taken 22 picks after Kwiatkoski)
What did the Titans do with their picks? The Titans flipped the 1st round pick they got from the Rams to take Jack Conklin, a solid tackle which they erred by letting him sign with the Browns. Ironically, the pick they gave to the Browns from the Rams turned into Corey Coleman, who is known better as the last in a string of Browns draft busts in the early 2010s.
The Rams had 2 second round picks, one from the Sam Bradford trade (43rd overall), which the Titans used to select Austin Jackson, a defensive lineman. However, the 45th overall pick, which originally belonged to the Rams, became Derrick Henry. Henry is the pivot of a resurging Titans offense, so this is one pick the Rams may want back. The 3rd round pick was traded to the Browns, who selected Shon Coleman, an offensive lineman now playing for the Colts as a rotation player. This is all from 2016.
The Titans used the 2017 first round pick on Corey Davis, who is a serviceable wideout, but got overshadowed by AJ Brown and Adam Humphries once they joined the team. Davis is now a Jet.
The third round pick from 2017 was used to select Jonnu Smith, a TE who played well enough on the Titans to earn a massive pay day from the Patriots, where he remains today.
In exchange for Jared Goff, the Titans got serviceable careers from Jack Conklin, Austin Jackson, Derrick Henry, Corey Davis and Jonnu Smith. Although only Henry remains on the roster, the fact the Titans are still in Super Bowl contention says a lot about their asset management. Also on a side note, Goff is currently the latest player drafted in the first round by the Rams, and unless the Rams do not trade their pick, their next 1st round pick will be in 2024.
EDIT: Typos.
Rams didn’t win a ring with Goff. Unless you meant because of Goff they acquired Matt Stafford which lead to a ring?
@@bluejam7634 Yep, the asset management is what got them a ring, but like I said, time will tell if the Rams overpaid for it.
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Nice list and production! I wanted to add an observation, seems like that RG3 trade pick was just destined to be wasted because of all the ones it turned into just nothing. It is hard to question this pick though considering he looked to be the next Mike Vick and who wouldn't have traded that to have a second chance at Vick. A lot of these seems like pretty big gambles that might have paid off, but I often wonder is there a secret list of prospects that scouts get paid to inflate to eat up these kinds of picks?
I wonder if Ditka was dealing with CTE? Also wondering if Williams was an emotional pick considering all the hell he had to endure with not letting Payton carry more in the super bowl?
Ricky was hella good but he had to have known that the Saints roster was not the kind you can't usher in a healthy draft class.
It is so weird because he knew that he won the super bowl without using a star running back!
You have to remember the Jets traded up for Sam Darnold as well... Still haunts me
Never seen this dude but subbed immediately. I already know I found a good one
Robert Griffin III was not a pick per se. He just got demolished by the Injury Train.
I can't blame anybody though for not taking Lamar Jackson.. like he's an athletic freak but that's all he had coming into the league, then a huge fumbling issue, no one could have foreseen a turn around like he had coming into his second season
He had 57 tds to 19 INTs and 7,500 yards passing his last two years at Louisville. You didn’t actually watch him play there did you?
@@MrRyan-wu4jx oh really?! So that make all the difference in the pros right!? Omg, no one has ever busted in the pros with a great college career! You're really stupid you know that? Thinking every college athlete can play pro just cause they were good in college
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The cut in with the scouting video is funny as hell.
Salivating over the thought of the Bengals getting an entire draft like that with the monstrous team building capabilities of Duke Tobin. If we took a trade like that today, oh man CIN would become a monster
You should do the best NFL draft day trades ever too
The worst part of the Ricky Williams trade was that the browns were an expansion team that year with the 1st overall pick. How much would Cleveland history changed had THEY traded for the saints draft class?
Wow. Definitely a HUGE mistake.
The big one is Trey Lance cause of what they could of done with those pics imagine the team they would have this year... dynasty worst than hershall walker trade
Coming back from deployment knowing Brandon Perna has kept Colorado safe in my absence is a heartwarming thought
damn, glad i was off today never been this early. btw shoutout to eli for not wanting to play for the chargers.
This was very interesting, you should make more videos like this
The thing most people forget is that the Saints offer was to anybody picking before Ricky Williams was picked, and it took til pick 5 for someone to say, "All your this year picks for my First, plus a lot of your good picks next year as well, to say.....ok". How could The Browns pass on that instead of taking Tim Couch? They could have had double draft picks each round plus a extra 1st & 3nd the next season. The team that doesn't get the grief they should are the Colts. They just drafted Payton Manning a few years before and could have had double picks to help him. They, unlike most teams who said no at least hit a homerun taking the First running back off the board in Edgerrin James!
Before I go, do you think a college player will ever have a team so in love this could happen again???
I hated Brandon Weeden pick so much. I saw his age and said no way for a 1st round pick, and was hoping to see if they can develop Colt Mccoy
Yeah, Russell Wilson was drafted in the 3rd rd that same yr.
@@joshuaferrell384Russell Wilson is awful.
Trading your entire draft for any player that doesn't turn out to be a hall of fame QB is massively stupid. Really wish history didn't remember that my Bengals were stupid enough NOT to take the Saints up on this trade. The less the world remember about how bad Akili Smith sucked, the better.
That's understandable but in that period, the Bengals were really bad at drafting so I imagine if they did take them up, it could've been more embarrassing.
I liked the subtle joke when you said Joe Flacco the “Elite” qb.
I keep forgetting about the Mike Ditka trade, and every time I hear about it I feel my brain boiling in my skull from how shitty it was
I'll never understand his reasoning behind that.
I mean, I understand why he wanted Ricky Williams. But it's called "negotiation." You don't announce to the world that you will do anything for the Redskins' pick, you go to the team and say, "What is your price?" And then go from there.
Remember the Ferengi Third Rule of Acquisition - Never pay more for an acquisition than you have to.
The Redskins got nowhere with an ENTIRE extra draft class PLUS a 2nd overall pick.. only the Browns could've done worse
In that Washington trade value chart im pretty sure you accidentally put the rams getting pick 2.
I'd love to know what the Bengals thought process was in turning down Ditka's trade offer. QB might be the most important position, I don't believe there is a QB that is worth giving up 9 draft picks.
There were teams wanting to trade with San Fran for that #2 pick. So San Fran called up Chicago and let them know what they were offered and Chicago made the move. Smart by San Fran, they got who they really wanted AND extra picks.
And a smart move because they knew to call the Bears.
This organization is horrific.
First video I watched of yours. I subscribed and laughed so much .
I still can't belive the Bengals didn't take that trade with the Saints
The RG3 trade wasn’t bad. What was bad is him getting injured because he played in the playoffs on a bumb knee
Adams was top 5 for most TD Catches in a season. Adams 2020 season was fun to watch.
If there is one thing I've learned is there is no guarantee that just because someone is good in college, its gonna automatically translate into being good in the NFL, how many 1st rounders have we seen just in the last decade, come in on a wave of hype only to fizzle out within 2 seasons?
14:14 Lol I remember watching a video that say people were apparently saying Colts were insane for drafting Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams
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How about the Broncos trading their 2022 draft for Russell Wilson? I know this video is from before the 2022 season, but....
When I seen the title for this video 😂 the Ricky Williams trade was first thing I thought of 😂 and you got it
I really wish RG3 never got hurt. I think he would have had a great career
He was a really exciting player to watch but he could be so reckless. A leg injury always seemed inevitable.
@@scrub_jay yeah especially playing in FedEx. Literally one of the worst fields in all of sports
Balls deep: the history of international football leagues
honestly you could do an entire video on the last decade + of broncos drafting. outside of von miller, DT and a handful of decent situational/rotational players, they've whiffed on just about every pick as far back as i can remember.
Love the Grigson call out. What about the Leaf/Manning debacle - or was that not the result of a trade?
Russ Wilson…it wasn’t on draft day but…..damn!
11:22 is such a sneaky joke. I love it
The worst pick I remember was Atlanta trading their first round pick next year for a blocking Tight End That ended up being Jamal Lewis a top five pick and one of the few back to rush for 2000 yards in a season
McDaniels trading up and drafting Tebow has me scared as a Raiders fan
As a young Bengals fan, it killed me when they wouldn't take 9 picks for their spot(they were in the top 5 all the time) We suffer so we know when the good times are here. Who Dey!!
As a vikings fan remembering the pain of the Herschel Walker trade. Do a vid on the total failure of that mess.
That Tebow pass BLOWS my mind
I knew it was coming, but when trubisky was brought up I died.
A teams entire draft of picks plus top picks from the next year all for a RB. The NFL has changed so much 🤣
they didn't do that even back them
It was just Ditka being and old fart of a coach/GM
I just took the SAT. Great video to watch after taking a test for 4 hours straight
Hope you aren't too stressed about the score, it is only one of many things colleges consider, and once you get in, no one will ever give a fuck about your score ever again! :)
The Jerome Bettis trade comes to mind
Traded to Pittsburgh
Running back Jerome Bettis
1996 third round pick (72nd overall, used to select Steve Conley)
Traded to St. Louis
1996 second round pick (59th overall, used to select Ernie Conwell)
1997 fourth round pick (121st overall, later traded to the Miami Dolphins, used to select Jerome Daniels; the Rams received the 112nd pick in exchange, used on Ryan Tucker)
I still remember the coming out game in 2012 for rg3 against my vikings, what a special talent, to bad his career ended early bc of injuries
I just never understood how mike ditka thought trading his entire draft for one person, especially a rb of all things was a good idea.
I think ditka did it because he came from the dominant running back ers of Jim Brown becomes Walter becomes Eric Dickerson becomes Barry/Emmit. If he'd have landed that kind of career out of Ricky, maybe it's justified. Huge gamble tho. Also, I think he just didn't wanna bother with dickering with his scouts over 6th rounders thru 12th rounders and just decided to take the rest of the day off.
The NFL was very different 25 years ago every good team had a stud workhorse back. Still it was way too much.
Balls Deep Suggestion: Which player injuries most damaged their team's seasons?
5:02, Josh Rosen if you guys wanted to know.
Have you done win-win trades? I'm thinking of two, Eli Manning & Philip Rivers, and Stefon Diggs to Buffalo for 1st round pick that the Vikings turned into Justin Jefferson.
Rivers is better though, the chargers got lucky Manning refused to sign
@@SnowWolf90 I agree. It worked out for both sides. Manning wasn’t the greatest but he has two rings.
Hahaha that quick dagger at Josh Rosen at 5:02 mark
4:35 Also Jeff Fisher being a jokester sent out 3 of the players they acquired using the picks they got in the trade for RG3 the next time they played Washington 2 years later.
I'd add also from 2016 nfl draft the 49ers trading up with the chiefs to get Joshua Garnett OL who didn't work out while the chiefs got chris jones
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Trading a first round pick for a second😂😅……I would’ve loved to have heard that GM phone call!
Can you do a best ever late round draft picks video?
Should do a video on Warrick Dunn or Simeon Rice. Warrick does/did a lot for single moms.
Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin used to go to Africa and do humanitarian work.
Love the balls deep episodes but then again I love everything you do Perna.
My buddy told me to watch this video and said it’s my sense of humor. I giggled like a school girl. Keep it up brother
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The Hershal Walker trade was pretty bad too.
Ur hella funny bro I had to subscribe 💯
I’d love to see you doing a dive into the mcnabb eagles falling all the way down to hell
Can’t wait for an updated version of this 😂