Lions or Browns: Which 0-16 Team Was Worse?
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- Lions or Browns: Who Was the Worse 0-16 Team? Oly the Detroit Lions and Cleveland Browns have both gone 0-16 in an NFL season. Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping @Manscaped with my link manscaped.com/... !
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(13:45) That didn't take long.....
@@SteefPipwas finna say 😂
@@SteefPip😂 I was just about to comment that it's not even 2024 yet, and things already went off the rails for some. I love going back to these older videos and partaking in some hindsight.😂
Do a vid on the fog bowl or the body bag game.
Alot of the people are saying lions on this. As a browns fan im not surprised because we couldnt even win on this.
As browns fan I’m 💀💀💀💀😂😂😂😂
No mammes 😂😂😂 this is comment of the year!
Lol Absolutely
LOL your comment is a flawless victory though 😂
Lol
Tbh the 1-15 Browns seemed worse to me than the 0-16 Browns. The win for them seemed like a complete fluke while the 0-16 Browns were close numerous times.
Agreed. The 1-15 2016 Browns were worse, they just happened to have a home game on Christmas Eve against an L.A. Chargers team with nothing to play for, & who just wanted to get the game over with & go home for the holiday. If the 2016 Chargers were playing for a playoff spot like the 2017 Chargers were, the 2016 Browns probably would have gone 0-16.
Josh Lambo is the reason they didn't go 0-36 from 2015-2018, I'm dead serious💀
@@edman813 browns are in fact the worst team in any foot ball league they have had 1 good season in the past like 20 years that being 2020 (the cursed year)
Browns will/loss from 2000-2022 125/244-1 they averaged 5.6/11.3
The lions 131-237-2 6.2/10.8
Putting them at worst from 2000(browns) and second worst (lions)
@@MDestroyerX "Past 40 years"
Don't overexaggerate. Since 99, yes, they've been bad. Twice to the playoffs and one 10-6 season.
Past 40 years? Bro, do you even know football history?
As a Lions fan I wasn't happy when the Browns also went 0-16. That was OUR thing!!!!!
I went through it twice, man.
@@detroitandclevelandfan5503 First time was probably more special right?
@@drayiii980 lol 😂 right
@@detroitandclevelandfan5503 🫡 I’m drinking the Honolulu blue koolaid for this season though
@@TheLucks13 same
As a born and bred Lions fan, it's absolutely fucking terrible the way Megatron's career ended up. Dude was top 5 all time, no question. He was basically what kept me watching football in that time, and yes, him retiring gave me PTSD flashbacks of Barry. That being said, I don't blame either of them. On the plus side, Calvin has a bunch of weed farms by me now, so that's cool lol
He and Barry are two of the best to ever play the game on offense period. It's sad.😢
On the Browns side, they had future Hall of Fame LT Joe Thomas blocking for schmucks like Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, washed up Jake Delhomme, Colt McCoy and the aforementioned Kizer among others
@RatedRMario21 That quarterback carousel from 2000-2018 must have been actual hell. Good thing they figured that out right?
I hear they will be bringing back Colt McCoy if Deshaun goes to jail.
@@RatedRMario21 derek anderson was the only decent one and you threw him in with the bums 😔
I'm not sure which one is worse, but I laughed much more at the Browns plight. I just felt pity for Detroit.
As a browns fan, I laugh at us too
@@jakeevans5751 We can either laugh about it or cry about it.
Sometimes both!
Does Matt Millen win the worst GM of all time??
@@Born_Into_This the race is only for second place. Millen has lapped the field.
@@Born_Into_This as much as i hated Millen I would say Quinn & Patricia was the worst GM/Coach combo. Millen at least tried different coaching philosophies where as Quinn would always go to the “Patriot Way” philosophy that proved to only work with Belichick as GM and Brady as Coach/QB.
I’m a lifelong Browns fan and NE Ohio native. When they were 0-10, we were hoping they’d go 0-16. Never forget WE HAD A PARADE FOR 0-16 and it was packed!!
This parade was a key reason why I believe you were the better 0-16 team because this parade actually forced your organization to make some changes and for a time, it worked, the Lions fans just sat back and whined on the matter, and stuff for them continued to go down the gutter and remain terrible. Definitely happy that you and the rest of the Browns fans were able to make good things happen for a little bit and it shows that when people take action on matters like this, the results for them being positive is a higher likelihood of coming together.
I remember celebrating Hue Jackson Day on January 31st after that happened.
The Browns 0-16 was so much funnier because of just how cartoonish the whole thing was. The 0-16 Lions just seem like a bunch of guys desperately trying their hardest to win a game of football but just not being good enough in any way
for being a filthy buckeye, you guys are all right. I remember wanting to bathe in the failure of our 0-16, but everyone around me was all sad and dejected, and begging for a win. I just wanted the world to burn because it wasn't worth saving. Matt Millen was the worst hire in NF-- check that-- organized sports history.
Wow how pathetic
If you’re asking who had the worst team, Browns. If you’re asking which season was more shameful, Lions. We had freaking Megatron and couldn’t win once.
@@TimeBandit2007yeah I know they probably would have gone like O-17
Missed a great opportunity to mention Dan Campbell was on the 0-16 Lions playing with Calvin Johnson
That makes his tenure as their HC feel that much more interesting.
he was injured that entire season so he didnt play
@@ryandemboski6313 I think he got traded during that season too.
megatron couldnt even get the lions a dub
@@TheGoffense8120naw he retired that year
Something notable about the lions... They started 6-2 in 2007. Talking about possibly being playoff contenders. From that point until the end of the 2009 season, they went 3-37.
Having an 0-16 season with the second youngest Hof inductee ever is… a feat. Lions fans have gone through a lot.
Which is worse, winning the “worse team ever” award or having such a losing culture that you can’t even win “the worst team ever” award whilst literally being 0-16.
Haha that's right, those Browns were so bad that they lost they competed in the "awfulness" category and lost, lol.
The worst is not, so long as you can say the 1976-77 Tampa Bay Buccaneers were worse.
@@troglokevthey were an expansion team so everyone gives them a pass but my good were they awful
Coming here during week 17 to congratulate both these teams on not only making the playoffs this year, but still having a chance at the top seed in their respective conferences.
This could by the superbowl too
Watching Hue Jackson week after week throw his players and coaches under the bus....... You forgot the famous blown trade when the Browns front office forgot to send a completed trade offer into the NFL in time.
And thank the Lord they didn't. It was actually intentional sabatoge. The dude got fired afterwards. If that trade would have went through, we would have not gotten Nick Chubb.
And let's not kid ourselves. The reason why Jackson was allowed to keep his job as long as he did was because he was black. Any other coach wouldn't have been given another game after going 1-31 over 2 seasons.
@@Rockhound6165 username checks out
@@salamanderonhere the hell are you babbling on about.
@@salamanderonhere did I say something untrue? Do you honestly believe any other coach would have been allowed to keep his job only winning 1 of 32 games?
I have to go with the lions on this, just the fact a hall of fame WR has a no win season under his belt is wild.
But the Browns had Hue Jackson, a Hall of Fame coach.
Correction, the Lions went 9-7 in 2010 to a playoff berth. First round exit vs. the Saints
Secret base has a great video about the 08 lions.
@@MarloSoBalJr They went 10-6.
@@MarloSoBalJr in 2011 they went 10-6. 2010 they went 6-10
The Lions as they were legitimately bad, the Browns under Sashi Brown were attempting a 76ers type “process” where they would tank and trade everything for future picks. A team designed to lose won’t be as bad as one that is just bad
It worked because the Texans collapsed after they traded up to get Deshaun, only for it to be for nothing after they traded back to get him
@@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza to be fair if those browns got deshaun… he would be a bust. Browns would’ve ruined him.
@@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza the Texans didn’t “collapse”, they had a string of terrible injuries during Watson’s rookie season including Watson himself.
The Browns are an example why “next year” draft mentality is wrong. They thought 18 had a better QB class so they skipped on both Mahommes and Watson
@@lolwutyoumad yikes
@@maxbielawski6745 i mean look at him now lol
One interesting fact, Dan Campbell was on the Lions in 2008, but he was on IR.
fueled his drive and ambition to make Detroit a respectable team
He had 1 catch that year before the injury so it counts
Man, 2008. Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan were just young up and coming QBs. Tom Brady was still pretty young. Both Mannings were in their peak. Mahomes was in middle school.
I didn’t realize Eli had a “peak”
@14gears It was smaller peak than Peyton's, but it was there.
@@14gears55 you win a chip or two, you had a peak. Thats just how it works
Drew Brees made the Saints contenders for years thus saving and prolonged his career.
Brady wasn't young lmao he was a 9 year veteran at that point. He wasn't old but he was not young
I remember back in the day when people believed it would be impossible for a professional football team to go without a win
I thought the same thing! The league is set up for teams to be successful, with a hard salary cap and free agency.
I was in boot camp when the regular season ended. My instructor came in one evening and said, "They did it. The Lions lost all of their games."
As a 56 year old the one thing I can for sure tell you is that both teams would have destroyed the 0-14 (or 0-26) Tampa Bay team!!!
Best coach comment ever at least
Reporter's question after a game - "how do you feel about your teams execution?"
Coach - "I'm all for it!"
I used to feel bad for Cleveland till the Watson deal. Ditching baker (not the best qb but TECHNICALLY the only qb in franchise history with a playoff win), destroying the FA market with that contract, just to take a whole season off for fans that have already seen more than enough of that. I feel for the fans, but Haslem has to be praying Snyder sticks around so Jim isn’t the worst owner in the league.
a owner being deemed the worst owner in the league because he overspends trying to make the team viable is one of the DUMBEST takes in the comment section. i wont feel bad for you and ur team when we stomp u this upcoming season
Snyder has already agreed to sell the team. He gone.
@@GetnBrains I’m on your side poor browns fan. You should be angry at Jim not me.
@@drampabay1476 agreed! We fans have gotten so much shit for the Watson deal.. i didnt personally make the damn thing! I aint sayin i wouldnt have.. lol
@@GetnBrains It's not the money spent, it's HOW the money is spent. I was a Browns fan but I am disgusted by how they handle their business. Otto Graham is rolling over in his grave and Jim Brown must be deeply saddened by what his beloved Browns have become.
Fun Fact: I'm and Eagles fan and my dad is a Browns fan. I was at the Browns 0-16 parade and the Eagles Super Bowl parade that year. Was anyone else at both parades?
For some reason, I watched the Browns that season.
They had so many opportunities to win games... but the level of Browns the Browns pulled was impressive. Capped off by their unsurprising bust WR dropping a pass with his Crisco-covered hands.
The Lions were so much worse the Browns lose again.
I looked into this a little bit and holy shit you were not kidding. I counted at least 8 times Kizer threw an awful INT in the endzone to seal a loss. Now imagine trading for him...
Can’t wait for this to be this year‘s or next year’s Super Bowl 😂
As a Michigander, I can proudly say I did watched the 2008 Detroit Red Wings win the Stanley Cup!!
*did watch
And they'll do it again by 2030, mark my words.
I will haunt you if you’re wrong.
7 months later and both of these teams are in the playoffs
I was working doing quick detail work for a nice car wash just outside of Detroit. Dante Culpepper came through in his Maserati and got a wash and armor-all on his dash. I drove his car off the wash line and to the side where I armor-all'd his dashboard. I had to ask him how to put it in park lmao. He gave me a $20 dollar tip. I asked him " are they gonna let you start one of these games?" He hadn't played yet this year. He stood up tall and puffed his chest out and said "If they want to win they will." I'll never forget that moment. I remember thinking to myself hmm was a $20 dollar tip for a $15 dollar armor-all dash fair? For sure! But from Dante Culpepper? I didn't know weather to be greatful or think dudes f n cheap. Nowadays I'm greatful for the priceless memories of driving that car and many other athletes and coaches car's 30 ft in a parking lot.
Commenting before the video, I'm saying the Lions. There was an article that came out in I think 2009 or 2010 that included a comment from then Lions QB John Kitna. Apparently during training camp when the coaching staff were giving the players the "new" playbook, Kitna looked at the HC and said something like "If we implement this system we won't win a single game."
My favorite memory as a packers fan of the 0-16 lions is when they faced the packers week 2. They stormed back from an early 21-3 deficit for a 25-24 lead in the fourth quarter… Only to be losing 48-25 about 7 minutes later.
I can’t believe I gaslighted my 8 year old self to continue to be a fan of this organization after the 07 season. Happy to have a seemingly good team now but fuck I went through a lot of pain for this team.
As a Lions lifer, I appreciate this video. Also, CJ's career wasn't just cut short by Lions' ineptitude, but by Jim Schwartz, who after getting fired by the Lions basically wrote the book as opposing DC on how to beat Megatron - forget about defending the pass, go for the ankles. And then they hoisted that a-hole and carried him out of the stadium. Really was the beginning of the decline of CJ's body and overall dominance, that one game.
Meanwhile neither of these teams was ever blown out by 50 points.
Not even 2024 and that Aaron Rodgers comment is a "yikes"
I think the 0 fer buccaneers were the worst
Wasn’t that team bad at everything? Like the Browns were competitive, and the Lions had a good team to the point ESPN analyst were confused at how it went 0-16, but wasn’t the Bucs team just plain bad
Yes, 0-14, with most like the worst offense ever (in the modern era).
yeah but they were an expansion team tbf also it was only a 14 game regular season so they aren't qualified for the worst 0-16 team
@@pxrays547 I actually saw a video about this the offense they had the next year was actually worse than the 0-14 teams offense
Anyone can lose 14 games
My Detroit-native cousin moved to Cleveland in 2015, experiencing both imperfect seasons in person. More proof to stay away from him.
Tell him to move to KC lol
Ouch didn't even take until 2024 for the Rodgers prediction to go bust.😂
As a lifelong Vikings fan I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone talk about a player/team having a great play/game/win and without even looking at the screen I know I'm about to re-live a moment of horrible Minnesota Viking's history I never wanted to see again!
Thank you, Brandon, for reminding me that the only team the 0-16 Lions came close to beating was the Vikings.
Didn't they lose to Carolina after the refs missed a blatant facemask on a 2pt tying attempt?
And to think we won the division that year with Gus Frerotte lol
As a lions fan, our 0-16 was like a 9 year train ride which we fell off a damn cliff. I bet that the best GM's in the league have a picture of Matt Millen to remind them constantly, how not to run a team.
13:50 that aged well
Back when both of these teams are playoff bound with reasonable chance to end up in the Super Bowl
Many of us never forget about those two points against Minnesota. It's impossible.
13:52 well… no one could have predicted that result
Perna, Dan Campbell was on that 2008 Lions team, FYI. Awesome video BTW, thanks for this one. I remember 2008 a bit foggy. The Red Wings were in the Cup finals so we in Detroit were okay as long as we were Wings fans.
Wings won it all, Pistons went to the ECF, Shock won it all that year...really a great year for Detroit sports in general...just not if you hitched your wagon to the Lions in particular (also true of the '00s as a decade).
The Lions couldn't win a game with Megatron. That takes the cake for me.
This is the best show on RUclips.
Not That’s Good as a whole. But Balls Deep is fantastic.
He knows enough about football to be dangerous; but not enough to where he’ll drone on with stuff, and his trademark humor is able to be everywhere on these episodes.
When the browns went 0-16, as a lions fan it made me so happy to see that another team could be so bad that they didn’t win a game. Just imagine had the chargers beaten them the year before we would’ve had back to back 0-16 seasons
As a Bucs fan I really hope Baker works out. We haven't had much luck with first overall picks.
The '17 Browns coming so close here and still losing is probably the most Browns thing I've ever seen.
Wow i didn't know Calvin Johnson was on that 0-16 lions team. Yal should be grateful that he didn't retire sooner.
I live near Tampa and I am surprised, that I am saddened, that the 1976 Buccaneers get left out the the worst team discussions.
Hue Jackson vs. Matt Milen
The greatest comparison since Adam Gase and Bobby Petrino
He was comparing the two coaches, in Cleveland Jackson got the most blame, whereas in Detroit, Millen caught the shit and Marinelli avoided the wrath.
As a bengals fan, it’s easily Detroits season. But I still am curious on why Cleveland actually KEPT hue jackson for a few more games until finally firing him
If the tanking allegations are true, they probably wanted to see how he'd do with an actual roster?
Or maybe they're stupid.
I do want to point out that the Lions put Jon Kitna, imo our best QB, on injured reserve that year. I think we would have won one game at least with him.
He definitely would’ve won the Vikings game when Orlovsky stepped out of the end zone
Eh... Naw...
Haha love it! I approve of your reasoning. I would also throw in the consistent horrible GM jobs for both teams. Lions drafting 3 WR each year and the Browns seemingly drafting #1 QB busts each year.
“Say the line, Bart!”
“Orlovsky safety”
[uproarious cheering]
Strength of schedule tells it like it is. Whoever went 0-16 with the easier schedule was the worse team.
that "much like the German Kaiser joke..." was gold Perna. Made this history buff fan of yours proud
Nobody talks about the winless Colts from the strike season, I know it's a short season but still remarkable
I knew someone within the Lions organization that said to me that Millen wasn't completely to blame. The ownership continued to meddle with their picks, which is why so many WRs were drafted and certain players were forced on him by his coaches as the Fords basically were too many cooks.
The Lions seem to be doing well now because ownership passed to Sheila Died who you can see in the draft room staying completely quiet and just letting the GM do whatever he thinks is best.
The 17 Browns would beat the 08 Lions if the two teams played a game. The 17 Browns had a decent running back and at least respectable receivers while the 2008 Lions had arguably the worst defense in NFL history.
Thank you for not naming the Browns the worst team on the day Jim Brown's death was announced.
RIP my sports God.
Wonder who the first 0-17 team will be
I absolutely love videos like these, as a NFL fan this is just perfect. Please keep it up Perna🙏
In my opinion, the Browns. At least the Lions got it right, by drafting Stafford. It actually gave us Lions fans hope. Seeing Stafford and Megatron gave us so much hope. We actually had a great shot at going to the playoffs, sometimes, and one time we did.
Where the Browns. Fail draft pick after draft pick. Knowing we're going to have a losing season. Playoffs not in sight. Hands down the Browns were the worst.
Lost in the matrix, Lions were 4-0 in preseason and coupled with the improvement the year before, ticket sales and smack talk was at all-time high. Then the season started. It was pathetically bad. Yeah, Browns can't even win this one. And don't forget, Dan "Kneecaps" Campbell was a Tight End on this team too.
The lions won the last game the nfl literally changed the rules to make them lose
And Dan was on IR smart guy
Browns also went 4-0 in the preseason but were trending down following a 3 win and then 1 win season so seems like 0-16 was just par for the course.
The funny thing is it’s 2024 and we still don’t know if Perna’s take on Hackett and Rodgers was right or wrong😂😭
Remembering both teams, I felt like Detroit was the better team. Cleveland had some close games but they also played some bad opponents, as strength of schedule showed, and even the less bad teams were riddled with injuries. Detroit gave up a few blodouts but they were also in a lot of close games if you take away those blowouts.
My man Brandon, Always coming at you with the Real Questions, Perna.
I like the "Lioms" logo, seems about right for that team. I distinctly remember pre-season talk of the team being very competitive after they won all of their pre-season games, which were the only wins all year. Thanks Matt Millen!
What's even more hilarious is that the Browns also went 4-0 preseason during their 0-16 season.
Oh, that playoff game the Browns won was on Steeler's field. That's what it was so big a deal. We won in Pissburgh for the first time in 17 years.
I don't know which was worse, but the die-hard fans that stick with these 2 teams year after year, through thick and thin, prove they're the GOAT fans in football.
We deserve back-to-back Browns-Lions Super Bowls with each winning one. You know, so that some of us can experience what it's like to watch our team win it before we die of old fuckin age.
My team is the Lions, but my back up team is the Titans. The pain. Watching them lose to the Rams in the Superbowl hurt more than the lions not even sniffing the wildcard round.
@@SaltySpark the lions I'd feel bad for but there in my division so I enjoy the comedy hours you guys put together n you had that dirty dtackle named suh who stomped on various football opponents which is uncalled for
Other than those things I would like you guys as a packers fan
The browns DESERVE HELL for 2 reasons
1. The beer bottle incident where fans chucked bottles at the opposing team AND THE REFEREES 20 years ago
2a n 2b Deshaun Watson n Jimmy haslem
It's debatable which incident is worse n I probably despise them more than everyone else except Seahawks or vikings fans
The titans I do feel bad for as they are A CLASSY not trashy franchise
Chill fanbase. Decent stadium just bad luck and honestly that fanbase n Derrick Henry deserves a ring or 2, I know this because I traveled in packers at titans to Nashville
0:20 as a Lions fan I'd 100% wear a shirt with that Lions logo.
I recall both these teams well and would call it a tie even after overtime since the bottom line is they were winless. As a long time NFL follower going back to the St. Louis Cardinals in 1960 when they arrived from Chicago the Browns had very good teams in the 1960s.The others under Brian Sipe. Of course similar to the original Washington Senators becoming the Minnesota Twins in 1961 and the Senators becoming an expansion team, the original Cleveland Browns are in Baltimore and these are an expansion Cleveland Browns team. I wish St. Louis had been given an expansion team when Stan Kroenke moved the STL Rams in a similar manner., but an owner was needed anyway. They were well supported and St. Louis was prepared to build even yet another stadium for the STL Rams. It was all about the large TV market of L.A.. I hardly remember the Lions ever having a good team outside of Barry Sanders years . I guess Lions fans must be the best in the league given their support for a team like the old St. Louis Browns of the American League in baseball. That being said, the St. Louis Rams of 2007-2011 must rank among the worst ever for a 5 year period. Owner Stan Kroenke wondered why attendance was dwindling.. I really rnjoyed the XFL BattleHawks this past season in St. Louis. They were exciting.
I'm shocked that Calvin didn't break all of the single season records. Seems like he should have considering he was the only good player on the team.
A part of me felt bad for Deshone Kizer. I wish the dude could’ve had another shot somewhere else to prove some worth
Well, he certainly wasn't good for us that one time
The 2008 Lions also teased fans with a 4-0 preseason.
Jason Hanson was by far the most reliable player on the Detroit Lions of all time. You hated to see him come out because he came out all the time, but everyone knew he was virtually guaranteed to do his job. And he would kick for the Lions for 20 years.
I’ve heard things that said the lions purposely lost 16 games because they didn’t like their QB or something and they wanted Stafford.
The 2017 Browns had Spero Dedes call their games almost every week. That makes them worse.
Just heard. R.I.P Jim Brown. 🏈
I lost my job that year, house lost 30% of its value and the Lions did not help. “Detroit is a place where we’ve had it pretty tough. But there is a generosity here and a well of kindness that goes deep.” We will win in the end. ❤
If these 2 teams had to face eachother,
I'd say the Browns were worse
Although the 2008-2009 Detroit Lions were the first team to go 0-16, the 2017-2018 Cleveland Browns were a complete shocker to 99.9999999-and-¾% of us--even if we weren't Cleveland Browns fans.
Pictured: the season Bears fans expect for the Panthers for some reason
When you consider Jon Kitna proclaimed the lions would win 10 games before the season it makes the lions 0-16 season worse because apparently the team actually had expectations coming off a promising 7-9 season the previous year.
If he hadn't been injured, maybe they could have won more games than they did. 10 seemed like a long shot considering that soft defense.
Nthaniel hacket amd who on the jets?
The fact Hue Jackson got to keep his job despite going 0-16 and 1-15 the season prior is the most Browns thing ever.
That 12-10 viking game was screwy. They called a phantom pass interference to allow the vikings to get a touchdown.
has to be the Lions… didn’t the Browns lose like 6 one possesion games?
I'm not sure how many, but I definitely remember watching a few heartbreakers that year (wife is from Cleveland)
You aren’t even using the current Detroit Lions 🦁 logo. _Rough seasons_ don’t last. The *Mighty Detroit Lions* 🦁 do. They will _dig deep_ and _roar out_ in _beast mode._ *2023 Detroit Lions* will win the *NFC North Division.* Let’s go.
As a Packers fan it brings me nothing but pain to know that the guy responsible for that Lions defense is somehow now responsible for ours
As a Lion's fan, I'm truly sorry bro. Best of luck.
@@SaltySpark he can't be worse than Dom capers who consistently was 0 N 16 BAD at coaching
We had 3 division championships with A DEAD LAST RANKED defense (there were 5 or 6 years too We're We almost also were bottom 5 or 10 defense under capers
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 that's a fair point as well lol
@@SaltySpark I will be filling out a petition to name the TRASH DUMP after Dom capers so the kids can remember how TRASH he was at his job
It certainly doesn't help that Detroit & Cleveland are already the two most miserable cities in America, and that's not just an opinion but a fact. According to national surveys regarding life satisfaction and overall happiness, Detroit and Cleveland regularly rank last amongst major US cities. The similarities between the two cities are uncanny. Both cities are shells of what they used to be. Both cities were at one time centers of manufacturing and innovation that have long since been in decline. Both cities have experienced a massive population decrease over the last half century. And both cities have NFL teams that were successful back in the atomic era but are now consistently two of the worst teams in the league.
A notable thing about that Titans game in 08 against the Lions. It was a Thanksgiving game. I ran out of the house to go get something really quick. By the time i got back, the Lions were down 21 nothing and it was still the first quarter.
Both are not so great but a lot of people pull for Detroit. They're just a huge underdog team that people feel sorry for. No one outside of Ohio gives a damn about Cleveland. And I mean no one
As someone from Toledo, Ohio let me tell you.
No one outside of Cleveland cares about Cleveland lol. No one here likes Cleveland
Best part about moving to a 17 game schedule is now waiting to see who will be the new worst team ever.
Dan Orlovski running scared out the back of the end zone from Jared Allen was priceless.
Motto for the city of Detroit is “Speramus Meliora, resurget cineribus”, which means we will hope for better things, it will rise from the ashes. Pretty much sums up Detroit, and it was coined by Fr Gabriel Richard in 1805.
I’m so glad they added a game to the schedule a few years ago so now we can potentially get 0-17 teams
Ironically both Detroit and Cleveland will sport a better 2023 record than Denver.
If you ask me, Cleveland Browns of 2016 and 17 are way worser than the 08 Lions because the Browns were a field goal kick away from consecutive 0-16 seasons