Lions or Browns: Which 0-16 Team Was Worse?

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  • Lions or Browns: Who Was the Worse 0-16 Team? Oly the Detroit Lions and Cleveland Browns have both gone 0-16 in an NFL season. Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping @Manscaped with my link manscaped.com/... !
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  • @thatsgoodsports
    @thatsgoodsports  Год назад +36

    Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping @Manscaped with my link manscaped.com/goodsports ! #manscapedpartner #fathersday

    • @SteefPip
      @SteefPip Год назад +1

      (13:45) That didn't take long.....

    • @JuanJuan023
      @JuanJuan023 11 месяцев назад

      @@SteefPipwas finna say 😂

    • @DaMurphyBeat
      @DaMurphyBeat 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@SteefPip😂 I was just about to comment that it's not even 2024 yet, and things already went off the rails for some. I love going back to these older videos and partaking in some hindsight.😂

    • @ConwayKitty
      @ConwayKitty 11 месяцев назад

      Do a vid on the fog bowl or the body bag game.

  • @aramey12
    @aramey12 Год назад +1908

    Alot of the people are saying lions on this. As a browns fan im not surprised because we couldnt even win on this.

    • @d.n.adatniccalexxx
      @d.n.adatniccalexxx Год назад +116

      As browns fan I’m 💀💀💀💀😂😂😂😂

    • @MadManMitch
      @MadManMitch Год назад +26

      No mammes 😂😂😂 this is comment of the year!

    • @t.a.dazerialt6060
      @t.a.dazerialt6060 Год назад +4

      Lol Absolutely

    • @atmadja19
      @atmadja19 Год назад +15

      LOL your comment is a flawless victory though 😂

    • @JBob08
      @JBob08 Год назад +2

      Lol

  • @smajet5640
    @smajet5640 Год назад +2925

    Tbh the 1-15 Browns seemed worse to me than the 0-16 Browns. The win for them seemed like a complete fluke while the 0-16 Browns were close numerous times.

    • @ralph8677
      @ralph8677 Год назад +382

      Agreed. The 1-15 2016 Browns were worse, they just happened to have a home game on Christmas Eve against an L.A. Chargers team with nothing to play for, & who just wanted to get the game over with & go home for the holiday. If the 2016 Chargers were playing for a playoff spot like the 2017 Chargers were, the 2016 Browns probably would have gone 0-16.

    • @edman813
      @edman813 Год назад +182

      Josh Lambo is the reason they didn't go 0-36 from 2015-2018, I'm dead serious💀

    • @MDestroyerX
      @MDestroyerX Год назад +56

      @@edman813 browns are in fact the worst team in any foot ball league they have had 1 good season in the past like 20 years that being 2020 (the cursed year)

    • @MDestroyerX
      @MDestroyerX Год назад +20

      Browns will/loss from 2000-2022 125/244-1 they averaged 5.6/11.3
      The lions 131-237-2 6.2/10.8
      Putting them at worst from 2000(browns) and second worst (lions)

    • @PhuckYT12
      @PhuckYT12 Год назад +32

      @@MDestroyerX "Past 40 years"
      Don't overexaggerate. Since 99, yes, they've been bad. Twice to the playoffs and one 10-6 season.
      Past 40 years? Bro, do you even know football history?

  • @db5627
    @db5627 Год назад +1472

    I have to go with the lions on this, just the fact a hall of fame WR has a no win season under his belt is wild.

    • @timdecoursey287
      @timdecoursey287 Год назад +82

      But the Browns had Hue Jackson, a Hall of Fame coach.

    • @MarloSoBalJr
      @MarloSoBalJr Год назад +13

      Correction, the Lions went 9-7 in 2010 to a playoff berth. First round exit vs. the Saints

    • @Silverlined_69
      @Silverlined_69 Год назад +5

      Secret base has a great video about the 08 lions.

    • @Wheelio
      @Wheelio Год назад +5

      ​@@MarloSoBalJr They went 10-6.

    • @leifopstad2972
      @leifopstad2972 Год назад +10

      @@MarloSoBalJr in 2011 they went 10-6. 2010 they went 6-10

  • @drayiii980
    @drayiii980 Год назад +385

    As a Lions fan I wasn't happy when the Browns also went 0-16. That was OUR thing!!!!!

  • @wolfiehatesgoogle
    @wolfiehatesgoogle Год назад +586

    I'm not sure which one is worse, but I laughed much more at the Browns plight. I just felt pity for Detroit.

    • @jakeevans5751
      @jakeevans5751 Год назад +28

      As a browns fan, I laugh at us too

    • @contentdenied
      @contentdenied Год назад +17

      @@jakeevans5751 We can either laugh about it or cry about it.
      Sometimes both!

    • @Born_Into_This
      @Born_Into_This Год назад +4

      Does Matt Millen win the worst GM of all time??

    • @robertbrown380
      @robertbrown380 Год назад

      @@Born_Into_This the race is only for second place. Millen has lapped the field.

    • @solarhits0411
      @solarhits0411 Год назад +8

      ⁠@@Born_Into_This as much as i hated Millen I would say Quinn & Patricia was the worst GM/Coach combo. Millen at least tried different coaching philosophies where as Quinn would always go to the “Patriot Way” philosophy that proved to only work with Belichick as GM and Brady as Coach/QB.

  • @SaltySpark
    @SaltySpark Год назад +983

    As a born and bred Lions fan, it's absolutely fucking terrible the way Megatron's career ended up. Dude was top 5 all time, no question. He was basically what kept me watching football in that time, and yes, him retiring gave me PTSD flashbacks of Barry. That being said, I don't blame either of them. On the plus side, Calvin has a bunch of weed farms by me now, so that's cool lol

    • @spencertherren6806
      @spencertherren6806 Год назад +33

      He and Barry are two of the best to ever play the game on offense period. It's sad.😢

    • @RatedRMario21
      @RatedRMario21 Год назад +29

      On the Browns side, they had future Hall of Fame LT Joe Thomas blocking for schmucks like Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, washed up Jake Delhomme, Colt McCoy and the aforementioned Kizer among others

    • @tylergarrett8066
      @tylergarrett8066 Год назад +15

      ​@RatedRMario21 That quarterback carousel from 2000-2018 must have been actual hell. Good thing they figured that out right?

    • @lostalone9320
      @lostalone9320 Год назад +7

      I hear they will be bringing back Colt McCoy if Deshaun goes to jail.

    • @kr3wapollo680
      @kr3wapollo680 Год назад +1

      @@RatedRMario21 derek anderson was the only decent one and you threw him in with the bums 😔

  • @logan_page
    @logan_page Год назад +118

    If you’re asking who had the worst team, Browns. If you’re asking which season was more shameful, Lions. We had freaking Megatron and couldn’t win once.

    • @bradleyhoward9638
      @bradleyhoward9638 Год назад +5

      ​​@@TimeBandit2007yeah I know they probably would have gone like O-17

  • @SentaiAce
    @SentaiAce Год назад +150

    I’m a lifelong Browns fan and NE Ohio native. When they were 0-10, we were hoping they’d go 0-16. Never forget WE HAD A PARADE FOR 0-16 and it was packed!!

    • @broizon205
      @broizon205 Год назад +14

      This parade was a key reason why I believe you were the better 0-16 team because this parade actually forced your organization to make some changes and for a time, it worked, the Lions fans just sat back and whined on the matter, and stuff for them continued to go down the gutter and remain terrible. Definitely happy that you and the rest of the Browns fans were able to make good things happen for a little bit and it shows that when people take action on matters like this, the results for them being positive is a higher likelihood of coming together.

    • @ironpanther2420
      @ironpanther2420 Год назад +3

      I remember celebrating Hue Jackson Day on January 31st after that happened.

    • @Pootisbird01
      @Pootisbird01 Год назад +10

      The Browns 0-16 was so much funnier because of just how cartoonish the whole thing was. The 0-16 Lions just seem like a bunch of guys desperately trying their hardest to win a game of football but just not being good enough in any way

    • @AP-hv9ll
      @AP-hv9ll Год назад

      for being a filthy buckeye, you guys are all right. I remember wanting to bathe in the failure of our 0-16, but everyone around me was all sad and dejected, and begging for a win. I just wanted the world to burn because it wasn't worth saving. Matt Millen was the worst hire in NF-- check that-- organized sports history.

    • @raider1297
      @raider1297 Год назад

      Wow how pathetic

  • @FrayedQube
    @FrayedQube Год назад +404

    Missed a great opportunity to mention Dan Campbell was on the 0-16 Lions playing with Calvin Johnson

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 Год назад +81

      That makes his tenure as their HC feel that much more interesting.

    • @ryandemboski6313
      @ryandemboski6313 Год назад +47

      he was injured that entire season so he didnt play

    • @TheGoffense8120
      @TheGoffense8120 Год назад +1

      @@ryandemboski6313 I think he got traded during that season too.

    • @pepesilvia2094
      @pepesilvia2094 Год назад

      megatron couldnt even get the lions a dub

    • @rezabeast1722
      @rezabeast1722 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@TheGoffense8120naw he retired that year

  • @TheLinnux1
    @TheLinnux1 Год назад +75

    Which is worse, winning the “worse team ever” award or having such a losing culture that you can’t even win “the worst team ever” award whilst literally being 0-16.

    • @Crateron1
      @Crateron1 11 месяцев назад +2

      Haha that's right, those Browns were so bad that they lost they competed in the "awfulness" category and lost, lol.

    • @troglokev
      @troglokev 8 месяцев назад

      The worst is not, so long as you can say the 1976-77 Tampa Bay Buccaneers were worse.

    • @insouciantFox
      @insouciantFox 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@troglokevthey were an expansion team so everyone gives them a pass but my good were they awful

  • @jtyezbick
    @jtyezbick Год назад +275

    Another thing not mentioned about the '08 Lions...
    The infamous curse of Bobby Layne was cast on the Lions shortly after their 4th championship win in 1957 when their star quarterback, Bobby Layne, was unexpectedly traded in the middle of the 1958 season. On his way out, Layne shouted "the Lions will not win for the next 50 years".
    50 years after his fateful words, the Lions became the first team in NFL history to go 0-16

    • @steel749
      @steel749 Год назад +32

      He was traded to the Steelers who in 2008 won the superbowl too.
      Amazing

    • @funkmon
      @funkmon Год назад +4

      That's because it's a modern urban legend that was invented in the past decade

    • @irishjet2687
      @irishjet2687 Год назад +19

      ​@@funkmonOh, almost certainly, but it's still fun.

    • @AP-hv9ll
      @AP-hv9ll Год назад +6

      @@funkmon nah, man, it goes farther back than that. Whether apocryphal or not, it was a thing talked about on Detroit sports radio in the 90's.

  • @Matt-tk3yk
    @Matt-tk3yk Год назад +84

    Having an 0-16 season with the second youngest Hof inductee ever is… a feat. Lions fans have gone through a lot.

  • @TheBrister
    @TheBrister Год назад +67

    Something notable about the lions... They started 6-2 in 2007. Talking about possibly being playoff contenders. From that point until the end of the 2009 season, they went 3-37.

  • @midlifecrisisincarnate
    @midlifecrisisincarnate 8 месяцев назад +28

    Coming here during week 17 to congratulate both these teams on not only making the playoffs this year, but still having a chance at the top seed in their respective conferences.

  • @stern12akachris32
    @stern12akachris32 Год назад +98

    Watching Hue Jackson week after week throw his players and coaches under the bus....... You forgot the famous blown trade when the Browns front office forgot to send a completed trade offer into the NFL in time.

    • @detroitandclevelandfan5503
      @detroitandclevelandfan5503 Год назад +1

      And thank the Lord they didn't. It was actually intentional sabatoge. The dude got fired afterwards. If that trade would have went through, we would have not gotten Nick Chubb.

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Год назад +1

      And let's not kid ourselves. The reason why Jackson was allowed to keep his job as long as he did was because he was black. Any other coach wouldn't have been given another game after going 1-31 over 2 seasons.

    • @salamanderonhere
      @salamanderonhere Год назад +10

      @@Rockhound6165 username checks out

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Год назад

      @@salamanderonhere the hell are you babbling on about.

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Год назад +1

      @@salamanderonhere did I say something untrue? Do you honestly believe any other coach would have been allowed to keep his job only winning 1 of 32 games?

  • @sr7312
    @sr7312 Год назад +58

    I was in boot camp when the regular season ended. My instructor came in one evening and said, "They did it. The Lions lost all of their games."

  • @shanewex
    @shanewex Год назад +42

    One interesting fact, Dan Campbell was on the Lions in 2008, but he was on IR.

    • @CBFW_KO
      @CBFW_KO Год назад +4

      fueled his drive and ambition to make Detroit a respectable team

    • @mottdropsie
      @mottdropsie 11 месяцев назад +3

      He had 1 catch that year before the injury so it counts

  • @lolwutyoumad
    @lolwutyoumad Год назад +98

    The Lions as they were legitimately bad, the Browns under Sashi Brown were attempting a 76ers type “process” where they would tank and trade everything for future picks. A team designed to lose won’t be as bad as one that is just bad

    • @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza
      @FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Год назад +3

      It worked because the Texans collapsed after they traded up to get Deshaun, only for it to be for nothing after they traded back to get him

    • @maxbielawski6745
      @maxbielawski6745 Год назад

      @@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza to be fair if those browns got deshaun… he would be a bust. Browns would’ve ruined him.

    • @lolwutyoumad
      @lolwutyoumad Год назад +10

      @@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza the Texans didn’t “collapse”, they had a string of terrible injuries during Watson’s rookie season including Watson himself.
      The Browns are an example why “next year” draft mentality is wrong. They thought 18 had a better QB class so they skipped on both Mahommes and Watson

    • @dshiznit12a
      @dshiznit12a Год назад

      @@lolwutyoumad yikes

    • @bodhithespoodergen
      @bodhithespoodergen Год назад

      @@maxbielawski6745 i mean look at him now lol

  • @chrisbg99
    @chrisbg99 Год назад +88

    Man, 2008. Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan were just young up and coming QBs. Tom Brady was still pretty young. Both Mannings were in their peak. Mahomes was in middle school.

    • @14gears55
      @14gears55 Год назад +3

      I didn’t realize Eli had a “peak”

    • @chrisbg99
      @chrisbg99 Год назад +2

      @14gears It was smaller peak than Peyton's, but it was there.

    • @RedMo46
      @RedMo46 Год назад +4

      @@14gears55 you win a chip or two, you had a peak. Thats just how it works

    • @brandedmcgowan9414
      @brandedmcgowan9414 Год назад +1

      Drew Brees made the Saints contenders for years thus saving and prolonged his career.

    • @raider1297
      @raider1297 Год назад

      Brady wasn't young lmao he was a 9 year veteran at that point. He wasn't old but he was not young

  • @Joshua-uw7wm
    @Joshua-uw7wm Год назад +33

    I remember back in the day when people believed it would be impossible for a professional football team to go without a win

    • @grandwazoo870
      @grandwazoo870 Год назад

      I thought the same thing! The league is set up for teams to be successful, with a hard salary cap and free agency.

  • @paulweston8408
    @paulweston8408 Год назад +21

    As a 56 year old the one thing I can for sure tell you is that both teams would have destroyed the 0-14 (or 0-26) Tampa Bay team!!!
    Best coach comment ever at least
    Reporter's question after a game - "how do you feel about your teams execution?"
    Coach - "I'm all for it!"

  • @drampabay1476
    @drampabay1476 Год назад +92

    I used to feel bad for Cleveland till the Watson deal. Ditching baker (not the best qb but TECHNICALLY the only qb in franchise history with a playoff win), destroying the FA market with that contract, just to take a whole season off for fans that have already seen more than enough of that. I feel for the fans, but Haslem has to be praying Snyder sticks around so Jim isn’t the worst owner in the league.

    • @GetnBrains
      @GetnBrains Год назад +4

      a owner being deemed the worst owner in the league because he overspends trying to make the team viable is one of the DUMBEST takes in the comment section. i wont feel bad for you and ur team when we stomp u this upcoming season

    • @GundamGokuTV
      @GundamGokuTV Год назад +2

      Snyder has already agreed to sell the team. He gone.

    • @drampabay1476
      @drampabay1476 Год назад +17

      @@GetnBrains I’m on your side poor browns fan. You should be angry at Jim not me.

    • @GetnBrains
      @GetnBrains Год назад +1

      @@drampabay1476 agreed! We fans have gotten so much shit for the Watson deal.. i didnt personally make the damn thing! I aint sayin i wouldnt have.. lol

    • @eddieorfield
      @eddieorfield Год назад +18

      ​​@@GetnBrains It's not the money spent, it's HOW the money is spent. I was a Browns fan but I am disgusted by how they handle their business. Otto Graham is rolling over in his grave and Jim Brown must be deeply saddened by what his beloved Browns have become.

  • @Matthewlaing1395
    @Matthewlaing1395 Год назад +12

    This is why I love this channel. This would be a discussion you have with your friends at the bar while watching a game. Great job Brandon

  • @goalscoringgoon98
    @goalscoringgoon98 8 месяцев назад +6

    Can’t wait for this to be this year‘s or next year’s Super Bowl 😂

  • @TimurTripp2
    @TimurTripp2 Год назад +4

    Meanwhile neither of these teams was ever blown out by 50 points.

  • @tannervanstaveren2155
    @tannervanstaveren2155 Год назад +21

    As a Michigander, I can proudly say I did watched the 2008 Detroit Red Wings win the Stanley Cup!!

  • @dedgzus6808
    @dedgzus6808 11 месяцев назад +3

    Fun Fact: I'm and Eagles fan and my dad is a Browns fan. I was at the Browns 0-16 parade and the Eagles Super Bowl parade that year. Was anyone else at both parades?

  • @user-wf4md3vg1t
    @user-wf4md3vg1t 8 месяцев назад +5

    7 months later and both of these teams are in the playoffs

  • @weregretohio7728
    @weregretohio7728 Год назад +28

    For some reason, I watched the Browns that season.
    They had so many opportunities to win games... but the level of Browns the Browns pulled was impressive. Capped off by their unsurprising bust WR dropping a pass with his Crisco-covered hands.
    The Lions were so much worse the Browns lose again.

    • @rjante2236
      @rjante2236 Год назад +6

      I looked into this a little bit and holy shit you were not kidding. I counted at least 8 times Kizer threw an awful INT in the endzone to seal a loss. Now imagine trading for him...

  • @gordonfan200
    @gordonfan200 Год назад +60

    My favorite memory as a packers fan of the 0-16 lions is when they faced the packers week 2. They stormed back from an early 21-3 deficit for a 25-24 lead in the fourth quarter… Only to be losing 48-25 about 7 minutes later.

    • @DepressedPistonsFan0
      @DepressedPistonsFan0 11 месяцев назад

      I can’t believe I gaslighted my 8 year old self to continue to be a fan of this organization after the 07 season. Happy to have a seemingly good team now but fuck I went through a lot of pain for this team.

  • @anubis1416
    @anubis1416 Год назад +5

    Not even 2024 and that Aaron Rodgers comment is a "yikes"

  • @frogbark
    @frogbark Год назад +2

    I was working doing quick detail work for a nice car wash just outside of Detroit. Dante Culpepper came through in his Maserati and got a wash and armor-all on his dash. I drove his car off the wash line and to the side where I armor-all'd his dashboard. I had to ask him how to put it in park lmao. He gave me a $20 dollar tip. I asked him " are they gonna let you start one of these games?" He hadn't played yet this year. He stood up tall and puffed his chest out and said "If they want to win they will." I'll never forget that moment. I remember thinking to myself hmm was a $20 dollar tip for a $15 dollar armor-all dash fair? For sure! But from Dante Culpepper? I didn't know weather to be greatful or think dudes f n cheap. Nowadays I'm greatful for the priceless memories of driving that car and many other athletes and coaches car's 30 ft in a parking lot.

  • @stanreaper3080
    @stanreaper3080 Год назад +11

    As a Lions lifer, I appreciate this video. Also, CJ's career wasn't just cut short by Lions' ineptitude, but by Jim Schwartz, who after getting fired by the Lions basically wrote the book as opposing DC on how to beat Megatron - forget about defending the pass, go for the ankles. And then they hoisted that a-hole and carried him out of the stadium. Really was the beginning of the decline of CJ's body and overall dominance, that one game.

  • @DrtyALGreen
    @DrtyALGreen Год назад +9

    Ouch didn't even take until 2024 for the Rodgers prediction to go bust.😂

  • @WVUer21
    @WVUer21 Год назад +9

    My Detroit-native cousin moved to Cleveland in 2015, experiencing both imperfect seasons in person. More proof to stay away from him.

    • @SaltySpark
      @SaltySpark Год назад +8

      Tell him to move to KC lol

  • @bentorrey12
    @bentorrey12 Год назад +42

    I think the 0 fer buccaneers were the worst

    • @Jevarohdail
      @Jevarohdail Год назад +5

      Wasn’t that team bad at everything? Like the Browns were competitive, and the Lions had a good team to the point ESPN analyst were confused at how it went 0-16, but wasn’t the Bucs team just plain bad

    • @pxrays547
      @pxrays547 Год назад +8

      Yes, 0-14, with most like the worst offense ever (in the modern era).

    • @dylanshort1661
      @dylanshort1661 Год назад +6

      yeah but they were an expansion team tbf also it was only a 14 game regular season so they aren't qualified for the worst 0-16 team

    • @dylanshort1661
      @dylanshort1661 Год назад

      ​@@pxrays547 I actually saw a video about this the offense they had the next year was actually worse than the 0-14 teams offense

    • @thatsgoodsports
      @thatsgoodsports  Год назад +16

      Anyone can lose 14 games

  • @WillKnapp18
    @WillKnapp18 Год назад +17

    Commenting before the video, I'm saying the Lions. There was an article that came out in I think 2009 or 2010 that included a comment from then Lions QB John Kitna. Apparently during training camp when the coaching staff were giving the players the "new" playbook, Kitna looked at the HC and said something like "If we implement this system we won't win a single game."

  • @sunlitsonata6853
    @sunlitsonata6853 8 месяцев назад +2

    Back when both of these teams are playoff bound with reasonable chance to end up in the Super Bowl

  • @lancegulyash204
    @lancegulyash204 7 месяцев назад +4

    The Packers saw how the Lions defense performed and said "Yes. We need their DC."

  • @paulweston8408
    @paulweston8408 Год назад +17

    As a lifelong Vikings fan I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone talk about a player/team having a great play/game/win and without even looking at the screen I know I'm about to re-live a moment of horrible Minnesota Viking's history I never wanted to see again!
    Thank you, Brandon, for reminding me that the only team the 0-16 Lions came close to beating was the Vikings.

    • @Knightmessenger
      @Knightmessenger Год назад +1

      Didn't they lose to Carolina after the refs missed a blatant facemask on a 2pt tying attempt?

    • @saryphx
      @saryphx Год назад

      And to think we won the division that year with Gus Frerotte lol

  • @Visionary_Watcher
    @Visionary_Watcher Год назад +9

    If NFL executives would have actually watched these two teams for 16 games, we wouldn't have moved to a 17 game schedule, we would've regressed to a 14 game schedule

    • @OSIRISREZEKTD
      @OSIRISREZEKTD 8 месяцев назад

      Why?

    • @Visionary_Watcher
      @Visionary_Watcher 8 месяцев назад

      @@OSIRISREZEKTD As a fan of one of these teams it was hopeless near the end. It was bad football week after week after week. By week 13 I knew the team was bad, I wanted the season to be over.

  • @calebmarek
    @calebmarek Год назад +7

    Many of us never forget about those two points against Minnesota. It's impossible.

  • @tierrewatt7935
    @tierrewatt7935 Год назад +9

    As a lions fan, our 0-16 was like a 9 year train ride which we fell off a damn cliff. I bet that the best GM's in the league have a picture of Matt Millen to remind them constantly, how not to run a team.

  • @Thedominator-tr2su
    @Thedominator-tr2su Год назад +4

    13:50 that aged well

  • @nasis18
    @nasis18 Год назад +5

    The Lions couldn't win a game with Megatron. That takes the cake for me.

  • @mikeclark7026
    @mikeclark7026 Год назад +6

    This is the best show on RUclips.
    Not That’s Good as a whole. But Balls Deep is fantastic.
    He knows enough about football to be dangerous; but not enough to where he’ll drone on with stuff, and his trademark humor is able to be everywhere on these episodes.

  • @tanneraitken3768
    @tanneraitken3768 Год назад +4

    13:52 well… no one could have predicted that result

  • @Younima4
    @Younima4 Год назад +30

    Hue Jackson vs. Matt Milen
    The greatest comparison since Adam Gase and Bobby Petrino

    • @pxrays547
      @pxrays547 Год назад

      He was comparing the two coaches, in Cleveland Jackson got the most blame, whereas in Detroit, Millen caught the shit and Marinelli avoided the wrath.

  • @Aezetyr
    @Aezetyr Год назад +7

    Perna, Dan Campbell was on that 2008 Lions team, FYI. Awesome video BTW, thanks for this one. I remember 2008 a bit foggy. The Red Wings were in the Cup finals so we in Detroit were okay as long as we were Wings fans.

    • @Rodanguirus
      @Rodanguirus Год назад

      Wings won it all, Pistons went to the ECF, Shock won it all that year...really a great year for Detroit sports in general...just not if you hitched your wagon to the Lions in particular (also true of the '00s as a decade).

  • @SuperSaiyanGuyver
    @SuperSaiyanGuyver Год назад +5

    The '17 Browns coming so close here and still losing is probably the most Browns thing I've ever seen.

  • @Thedominator-tr2su
    @Thedominator-tr2su Год назад +18

    When the browns went 0-16, as a lions fan it made me so happy to see that another team could be so bad that they didn’t win a game. Just imagine had the chargers beaten them the year before we would’ve had back to back 0-16 seasons

  • @huchlvr
    @huchlvr Год назад +3

    Thank you for not naming the Browns the worst team on the day Jim Brown's death was announced.
    RIP my sports God.

  • @ohmy...9007
    @ohmy...9007 Год назад +2

    Wow i didn't know Calvin Johnson was on that 0-16 lions team. Yal should be grateful that he didn't retire sooner.

  • @theelike4302
    @theelike4302 Год назад +11

    As a Bucs fan I really hope Baker works out. We haven't had much luck with first overall picks.

  • @lucase.2546
    @lucase.2546 Год назад +1

    “Say the line, Bart!”
    “Orlovsky safety”
    [uproarious cheering]

  • @sml2k186
    @sml2k186 Год назад +6

    As a bengals fan, it’s easily Detroits season. But I still am curious on why Cleveland actually KEPT hue jackson for a few more games until finally firing him

    • @rjante2236
      @rjante2236 Год назад +1

      If the tanking allegations are true, they probably wanted to see how he'd do with an actual roster?
      Or maybe they're stupid.

  • @CaptainCrockpot
    @CaptainCrockpot Год назад +4

    Strength of schedule tells it like it is. Whoever went 0-16 with the easier schedule was the worse team.

  • @denomolous
    @denomolous Год назад +5

    I live near Tampa and I am surprised, that I am saddened, that the 1976 Buccaneers get left out the the worst team discussions.

  • @dredhead117
    @dredhead117 Год назад +3

    that "much like the German Kaiser joke..." was gold Perna. Made this history buff fan of yours proud

  • @JacobLara
    @JacobLara Год назад +5

    Haha love it! I approve of your reasoning. I would also throw in the consistent horrible GM jobs for both teams. Lions drafting 3 WR each year and the Browns seemingly drafting #1 QB busts each year.

  • @timdecoursey287
    @timdecoursey287 Год назад +10

    I do want to point out that the Lions put Jon Kitna, imo our best QB, on injured reserve that year. I think we would have won one game at least with him.

    • @johnny__topside
      @johnny__topside Год назад +1

      He definitely would’ve won the Vikings game when Orlovsky stepped out of the end zone

    • @aceofpizza9932
      @aceofpizza9932 Год назад

      Eh... Naw...

  • @Jevarohdail
    @Jevarohdail Год назад +6

    My man Brandon, Always coming at you with the Real Questions, Perna.

  • @janedoe3043
    @janedoe3043 11 месяцев назад +1

    I knew someone within the Lions organization that said to me that Millen wasn't completely to blame. The ownership continued to meddle with their picks, which is why so many WRs were drafted and certain players were forced on him by his coaches as the Fords basically were too many cooks.
    The Lions seem to be doing well now because ownership passed to Sheila Died who you can see in the draft room staying completely quiet and just letting the GM do whatever he thinks is best.

  • @TheMailmanOfSteel
    @TheMailmanOfSteel Год назад +3

    I like the "Lioms" logo, seems about right for that team. I distinctly remember pre-season talk of the team being very competitive after they won all of their pre-season games, which were the only wins all year. Thanks Matt Millen!

    • @Knightmessenger
      @Knightmessenger Год назад +1

      What's even more hilarious is that the Browns also went 4-0 preseason during their 0-16 season.

  • @AlexCentury
    @AlexCentury Год назад +2

    The 17 Browns would beat the 08 Lions if the two teams played a game. The 17 Browns had a decent running back and at least respectable receivers while the 2008 Lions had arguably the worst defense in NFL history.

  • @oddballskull1941
    @oddballskull1941 Год назад +3

    Nobody talks about the winless Colts from the strike season, I know it's a short season but still remarkable

  • @thornysnotsoepic
    @thornysnotsoepic 11 месяцев назад +1

    The fact Hue Jackson got to keep his job despite going 0-16 and 1-15 the season prior is the most Browns thing ever.

  • @exterminaiden2703
    @exterminaiden2703 Год назад +4

    I absolutely love videos like these, as a NFL fan this is just perfect. Please keep it up Perna🙏

  • @tylermalizia3059
    @tylermalizia3059 7 месяцев назад +2

    The funny thing is it’s 2024 and we still don’t know if Perna’s take on Hackett and Rodgers was right or wrong😂😭

  • @robynsnest8668
    @robynsnest8668 Год назад +5

    Lost in the matrix, Lions were 4-0 in preseason and coupled with the improvement the year before, ticket sales and smack talk was at all-time high. Then the season started. It was pathetically bad. Yeah, Browns can't even win this one. And don't forget, Dan "Kneecaps" Campbell was a Tight End on this team too.

    • @Djturnt
      @Djturnt Год назад +1

      The lions won the last game the nfl literally changed the rules to make them lose

    • @Djturnt
      @Djturnt Год назад

      And Dan was on IR smart guy

    • @DeepSubmerge
      @DeepSubmerge Год назад +1

      Browns also went 4-0 in the preseason but were trending down following a 3 win and then 1 win season so seems like 0-16 was just par for the course.

  • @detroitandclevelandfan5503
    @detroitandclevelandfan5503 Год назад +2

    In my opinion, the Browns. At least the Lions got it right, by drafting Stafford. It actually gave us Lions fans hope. Seeing Stafford and Megatron gave us so much hope. We actually had a great shot at going to the playoffs, sometimes, and one time we did.
    Where the Browns. Fail draft pick after draft pick. Knowing we're going to have a losing season. Playoffs not in sight. Hands down the Browns were the worst.

  • @larryloveless2967
    @larryloveless2967 Год назад +3

    I recall both these teams well and would call it a tie even after overtime since the bottom line is they were winless. As a long time NFL follower going back to the St. Louis Cardinals in 1960 when they arrived from Chicago the Browns had very good teams in the 1960s.The others under Brian Sipe. Of course similar to the original Washington Senators becoming the Minnesota Twins in 1961 and the Senators becoming an expansion team, the original Cleveland Browns are in Baltimore and these are an expansion Cleveland Browns team. I wish St. Louis had been given an expansion team when Stan Kroenke moved the STL Rams in a similar manner., but an owner was needed anyway. They were well supported and St. Louis was prepared to build even yet another stadium for the STL Rams. It was all about the large TV market of L.A.. I hardly remember the Lions ever having a good team outside of Barry Sanders years . I guess Lions fans must be the best in the league given their support for a team like the old St. Louis Browns of the American League in baseball. That being said, the St. Louis Rams of 2007-2011 must rank among the worst ever for a 5 year period. Owner Stan Kroenke wondered why attendance was dwindling.. I really rnjoyed the XFL BattleHawks this past season in St. Louis. They were exciting.

  • @BrandonKellogg22
    @BrandonKellogg22 Год назад +2

    Jason Hanson was by far the most reliable player on the Detroit Lions of all time. You hated to see him come out because he came out all the time, but everyone knew he was virtually guaranteed to do his job. And he would kick for the Lions for 20 years.

  • @GlobalWarmingSkeptic
    @GlobalWarmingSkeptic Год назад +6

    Remembering both teams, I felt like Detroit was the better team. Cleveland had some close games but they also played some bad opponents, as strength of schedule showed, and even the less bad teams were riddled with injuries. Detroit gave up a few blodouts but they were also in a lot of close games if you take away those blowouts.

  • @Mortiz21
    @Mortiz21 Год назад +1

    0:20 as a Lions fan I'd 100% wear a shirt with that Lions logo.

  • @HeCalledFairCatch
    @HeCalledFairCatch Год назад +3

    Wonder who the first 0-17 team will be

  • @TillmanStudios
    @TillmanStudios Год назад +2

    I'm shocked that Calvin didn't break all of the single season records. Seems like he should have considering he was the only good player on the team.

  • @MrPloppy1
    @MrPloppy1 Год назад +4

    I don't know which was worse, but the die-hard fans that stick with these 2 teams year after year, through thick and thin, prove they're the GOAT fans in football.
    We deserve back-to-back Browns-Lions Super Bowls with each winning one. You know, so that some of us can experience what it's like to watch our team win it before we die of old fuckin age.

    • @SaltySpark
      @SaltySpark Год назад

      My team is the Lions, but my back up team is the Titans. The pain. Watching them lose to the Rams in the Superbowl hurt more than the lions not even sniffing the wildcard round.

    • @nautgamingnautgaming9949
      @nautgamingnautgaming9949 Год назад +1

      ​​@@SaltySpark the lions I'd feel bad for but there in my division so I enjoy the comedy hours you guys put together n you had that dirty dtackle named suh who stomped on various football opponents which is uncalled for
      Other than those things I would like you guys as a packers fan
      The browns DESERVE HELL for 2 reasons
      1. The beer bottle incident where fans chucked bottles at the opposing team AND THE REFEREES 20 years ago
      2a n 2b Deshaun Watson n Jimmy haslem
      It's debatable which incident is worse n I probably despise them more than everyone else except Seahawks or vikings fans
      The titans I do feel bad for as they are A CLASSY not trashy franchise
      Chill fanbase. Decent stadium just bad luck and honestly that fanbase n Derrick Henry deserves a ring or 2, I know this because I traveled in packers at titans to Nashville

  • @carterpksa1929
    @carterpksa1929 Год назад +1

    I’ve heard things that said the lions purposely lost 16 games because they didn’t like their QB or something and they wanted Stafford.

  • @bigk8210
    @bigk8210 Год назад +3

    Just heard. R.I.P Jim Brown. 🏈

  • @louisnemzer6801
    @louisnemzer6801 Год назад +2

    "I'm not even mad, that's amazing" very aptly applied to the combined 1-31 Browns seasons

  • @FirstNameLastName-vf9hf
    @FirstNameLastName-vf9hf Год назад +3

    A part of me felt bad for Deshone Kizer. I wish the dude could’ve had another shot somewhere else to prove some worth

    • @rjante2236
      @rjante2236 Год назад

      Well, he certainly wasn't good for us that one time

  • @Mr.HowardsClass
    @Mr.HowardsClass Год назад +1

    I lost my job that year, house lost 30% of its value and the Lions did not help. “Detroit is a place where we’ve had it pretty tough. But there is a generosity here and a well of kindness that goes deep.” We will win in the end. ❤

  • @JestingJoker013
    @JestingJoker013 Год назад +10

    Q: Who does it again first?
    A: Hue Jackson

  • @JasonTom
    @JasonTom Год назад +2

    You aren’t even using the current Detroit Lions 🦁 logo. _Rough seasons_ don’t last. The *Mighty Detroit Lions* 🦁 do. They will _dig deep_ and _roar out_ in _beast mode._ *2023 Detroit Lions* will win the *NFC North Division.* Let’s go.

  • @darianclark3980
    @darianclark3980 Год назад +4

    If these 2 teams had to face eachother,
    I'd say the Browns were worse

  • @tthomaselli2
    @tthomaselli2 Год назад +1

    Although the 2008-2009 Detroit Lions were the first team to go 0-16, the 2017-2018 Cleveland Browns were a complete shocker to 99.9999999-and-¾% of us--even if we weren't Cleveland Browns fans.

  • @PizzaHutCEO
    @PizzaHutCEO Год назад +3

    Pictured: the season Bears fans expect for the Panthers for some reason

  • @huchlvr
    @huchlvr Год назад +1

    Oh, that playoff game the Browns won was on Steeler's field. That's what it was so big a deal. We won in Pissburgh for the first time in 17 years.

  • @AkamexAris1023
    @AkamexAris1023 Год назад +5

    Being the one team that gave the 1-31 Browns their only W in 2 years will forever haunt my dreams

  • @darthmid_gaming7875
    @darthmid_gaming7875 8 месяцев назад +1

    That 12-10 viking game was screwy. They called a phantom pass interference to allow the vikings to get a touchdown.

  • @matthewbasala1827
    @matthewbasala1827 Год назад +3

    Nthaniel hacket amd who on the jets?

  • @toddvangessel5699
    @toddvangessel5699 Год назад +1

    The 2008 Lions also teased fans with a 4-0 preseason.

  • @robs7163
    @robs7163 Год назад +7

    As a Packers fan it brings me nothing but pain to know that the guy responsible for that Lions defense is somehow now responsible for ours

    • @SaltySpark
      @SaltySpark Год назад +1

      As a Lion's fan, I'm truly sorry bro. Best of luck.

    • @nautgamingnautgaming9949
      @nautgamingnautgaming9949 Год назад +1

      ​@@SaltySpark he can't be worse than Dom capers who consistently was 0 N 16 BAD at coaching
      We had 3 division championships with A DEAD LAST RANKED defense (there were 5 or 6 years too We're We almost also were bottom 5 or 10 defense under capers

    • @SaltySpark
      @SaltySpark Год назад

      @@nautgamingnautgaming9949 that's a fair point as well lol

    • @nautgamingnautgaming9949
      @nautgamingnautgaming9949 Год назад

      ​@@SaltySpark I will be filling out a petition to name the TRASH DUMP after Dom capers so the kids can remember how TRASH he was at his job

  • @ultimateactivitiesdude2685
    @ultimateactivitiesdude2685 8 месяцев назад +2

    Imagine if this is the Super Bowl this year 😂

  • @ollanius-pius
    @ollanius-pius Год назад +3

    Both are not so great but a lot of people pull for Detroit. They're just a huge underdog team that people feel sorry for. No one outside of Ohio gives a damn about Cleveland. And I mean no one

    • @Not_Brandino
      @Not_Brandino Год назад

      As someone from Toledo, Ohio let me tell you.
      No one outside of Cleveland cares about Cleveland lol. No one here likes Cleveland

  • @RyanWow65
    @RyanWow65 Год назад +2

    The 2017 Browns had Spero Dedes call their games almost every week. That makes them worse.

  • @mosespf
    @mosespf Год назад +4

    has to be the Lions… didn’t the Browns lose like 6 one possesion games?

    • @lorax8172
      @lorax8172 Год назад +2

      I'm not sure how many, but I definitely remember watching a few heartbreakers that year (wife is from Cleveland)

  • @stacktus9158
    @stacktus9158 3 месяца назад +1

    Best part about moving to a 17 game schedule is now waiting to see who will be the new worst team ever.