The best dragon ball villain was Ginyu to be honest.. he embodies a crazy and loyal gentleman with a fantastic move set, his willingness to serve frieza is funny to see as well
Cell is my favorite Dragon Ball villain so by default he's the best in my opinion of course (specking of Cell any chance you'll do a video about him in the future?)
Frieza is perfect as a villain because he's just like Emperor Palpatine: Not just evil but DELIGHTFULLY evil. He revels in his own evil. It's fantastic
That's why frieza is so good. He takes pure pleasure out of being evil. Only looking for his own gain. There is no manipulating him, no reasoning. If it benefits him hes in. If it doesnt he will go evil.
common viewer they have polar opposite ideals, I hope freeza never becomes “good” because I feel his redeeming quality is his cunningness, you never know what he is gonna do unlike Goku because his motives are pretty much clear.
@@ratlosmappy Exactly! I feel as though his whole character is "Villian" and he is the very definition of "does as he pleases." He has one of the best chemistries with Goku because of his character traits. I however, how no issues with him working with goku.
Goku helped Freeza develop as a warrior, learning not to underestimate his opponent and a little bit of teamwork, but he definetly didn't leave as a better person. Though it may be the reason as for why he's nicer to his minions.
I think Freeza is so scared of Hell he'll play along. He realized he could achieve what he wanted without being labeled a villain. With what he went through in the tournament of power, having to be saved by Gohan, Goku and 17 over and over then saving them too... I think the writers are going to consider it as an excuse to keep him around in the series.
Frieza is HANDS DOWN the best DBZ villain. His unapologetic behavior is so satisfying as a villain lover. His classy speech pattern reminds me of mafia bosses with money & power. Love Frieza as a villain
Finally someone touched on this. I don't mind a villain just being evil. There are people even irl that are simply evil and despicable people just cuz. Fiction to an extent is just an abstract exaggerated recreation of the real world. I don't see any issues with those characters, personally.
"There are people even irl that are simply evil and despicable people just cuz." There ARE, but... *Most* of the people society calls "evil" (militants, terrorists, conmen etc etc) are the ones that think that they are in the right. Only a minority of those "evil people" are sadistic douchebags who know they are in the wrong. Thus, it's far more realistic to have a villain that actually thinks that they themselves are the good guy. Whether you think being realistic is a good thing or not is up to you. jussayin
@@helloturkey1143 You have a point. Im not saying the villain market should be over saturated with psychopaths who are just born without a care in the world for others..making that character's reasoning for committing atrocious acts easier. I'm just saying that I don't have a problem with their presence, especially if they're done well like Frieza or Dio, from JoJo's Bizzare Adv.
+HelloTurkey Trust me people being evil for the sake of evil are all to real. You just haven't met enough people yet. and isn't the point of fantasy to show the eccentric/the shining stars and wierdos of socity that have equally eccentric adventures. Nobody likes to know the story of Bob down the street and even so he has to become a special most of us would never be by the end of the story. So showing these "minorty" is realistic as well. Whether it makes good writing is a whole different story.
I love that change to his character. He's still vain, but realized that he has enemies that can rival him, so he changed his approach to the issue so he doesn't seem as much of a threat, and uses underhanded tactics to get what he wants. He got a taste of true struggle thanks to Goku and gang, so he learns to adapt with every attempt and failure to get a leg-up on the competition.
it perfectly fits his narcissistic personality. The original frieza wanted immortality so that he could rule forever he did not want strength because he thought of himself as the strongest creature in creation (acknowledge Beerus did not exist, and Freeza did not know of him at the time) Frieza character was so masterful written that he is still consistent in the "being 5cm taller" wish because you logically could attach him making that wish after being immortal. remember Frieza pointed out that he didnt want his change in size to be dramatic meaning he is/was willing make several 5cm taller wishes over a very long span of time.
He also knows that his wish can be easily undone since there are a lot of people with access to Dragon Balls. :) Back on Planet Namek he thought it's undisputedly the most strongest being in the universe by far (except Beerus and maybe Majin Buu) without the knowledge of the other versions of Dragon Balls. He would have first somehow find a way to wipe a lot of characters first before being able to wish immortality or else it would be meaningless. Besides, I think he likes all of the fighting and competition.
That's why the Dark Knight's Joker is such a great villain. The writer does not apply pressure on him to reveal his true nature. The Joker himself applies maximum pressure on Gotham City so they will reveal their moral hypocrisy. He is both the villain and the writer of the story.
Yeah but my problem isn’t necessarily with Joker but Batman. Everyone knows Batman won’t kill and Batman still gives him the benefit of a doubt and Joker knows and uses that. The joker literally has no consequences because Batman is too much of a good guy to change him. Even bad people have to be out down in society today with lethal injection for the good of the public because otherwise all these sociopaths would be given the treatment as joker only for them to keep doing the same thing. Batman doesn’t want to kill Joker for himself not necessarily for the public. It’s literally a selfish desire so he doesn’t break a rule he won’t cross. But it’s not smart, it doesn’t even make sense. Just kill him and many problems will be solved. Obviously new issues would rise but there’s plenty of other villains to keep Batman busy. All Batman ever does is send his villains to the Arkham asylum but they all literally break out, leave, or just simply walk over the asylum to the point that it’s not even a useful place. I’m not saying he should just kill everyone but he can kill Joker because Joker is a straight psychotic maniac that cannot be Frieza. Technically the same is happening with Frieda but Goku is always there to stop him and so are gods so Frieza actually has to be careful unlike Joker who ,again, has literally no consequences even with other heroes being there
@@eli2210 outside of the dark knight Batman who has a great mentality of he’ll never kill you be he has no obligation to save you is prolly the best version of Batman’s no killing mentally. Your very right joker is literally just a road bump on every street but if you get rid of the speed bump there’s no issue for the people but with Batman (just an analogy btw) doesn’t remove those speed bumps because he just doesn’t want to cause if he does he’ll think he’ll go to fast and wild out on the road which is selfish of him.
"Poits a finger at you" Bang! Gotta love Frieza. Even at his small stature he looks down on everyone. And he will destroy your world with his pinky raised, like a proper snob ^^
The real joy of watching an unsympathetic villain is that we can delight in their suffering, guilt free. This allows us to enjoy our sadistic side without feeling like we are evil. Watching Frieza getting his ass kicked or otherwise humiliated is hilarious.
The contrast between Goku, Vegeta, Broly and Frieza I really like. I’m really happy with what Toriyama has done with the character since his first revival (excluding RoF)
Considering he's worked off years of badass decay, Freeza's on fire! That being said, I'm still trying to figure out where Beerus, Freeza and Broly will be at in the future. Especially if the manga's ending is still canon...
Basically flexing clout is what you would say if you have expensive clothes and are showing them off to other people. Thats why you picture Frieza wearing designer. 🎣💨
Freeza is literally a Sociopathic Spoiled Brat. Yes he’s intelligent and Brutal but he DEADASS doesn’t care for anyone but himself. Not even his own father by the slightest and his most loyal henchmen Zarbon and Ginyu
Trump's pretty similar, only being different in paying some respects to people who cater to him... though he often doesn't even support loyal followers, as evidenced by the complaints of people who currently and formerly worked closely to him.
@@PoochieCollins Why can't Americans ever shut the fuck up about their politics ? You have no idea how annoying you guys are annoying online and IRL, it's impossible to talk to you without Trump coming up. If you took the time to enjoy stuff without thinking about him maybe you would be less perpetually butthurt.
I can't express my gratitude towards you Mark, for creating these amazing videos showcasing the deeper meaning of the franchise we love, without caring about recognition of your work, but by doing it for yourself and for fun. For us as well xD
The thing that makes an unsympathetic villain so great to me is because of how their unfettered cruelty makes them a more viable threat unlike the sympathetic villain who because of their more human quality means that you could try talking them out of committing evil acts and appealing to their humanity in a way that you could never do otherwise with the complete monster villain
I think the reason that frieza is so menacing is his intelligence, sophistication and indiscriminate menace, and his neutral evil character makes one of the greatest villains in not just anime history but in all of pop culture
According to Ginyu, he's a nice boss though. He's generous with the pay and benefits for his army. He also provided armors and healing benefit for in-work injuries.
He's the kind of villain who prefers to persuade or coerce people who can be useful to serve him rather than destroying them on sight. At least in Namek saga, he consistently offers everyone who became worthy of his attention a job and only proceeded to kill them when they refused and insisted to get in his way.
The fact is there are some people who are bad and will always be bad. They may not have been born that way, but they made choices that led them to this life of villainy. That's the way the real world works too as seen with various dictators, murderers, criminals, and monsters throughout history. You don't always need a sympathetic or complicated villain with a relatable philosophy. The best explanation is often the simplest one and the simple fact is some people are evil and they like it that way.
infogalactic.com/info/Petar_Brzica alchetron.com/Petar-Brzica And brother, are they ever proud of it! The dude wore his fingernails to the bone cutting people's necks! Also let's not forget everyone's favourite cannibalistic world leader Idi Amin! My favourite story of his: he captured the ringleader of a coup against him and promised he'd personally see the guy home safely if he ratted out the rest. Invited him onto his private chopper after he did so, flew him back to his home village. Gave him a fancy Italian coat as a gift, then took off. Turns out the coat was sewn full of C4,as once he was about 500 feet away, the house exploded. "I never promised he'd still be safe after he got home!" Some truly admirable cartoon villainy right there!
@@connorschultz380 While it's true that many Kenobi accounts exist (clones, what can you do?) there is only one true Obi-Wan Kenobi and he is me! The original. The genuine article if you will! ;-)
They can't be your favorite villain type. You just like the narrative in which those types of characters fit in. They only work within a certain narrative; that's literally what the video was about.
Unapologetic, unsympathetic. The perfect villain who wants nothing but to gain for himself. No regard for life of anyone. He has no true allies. He rules by fear alone. During the first frieza arc I was worried he would be turned by goku and ruin the character. So glad they kept him true to his character. And mostly continued with it in super. In the end he respected goku and others and stayed true to his word, but only because it benefited him.
I think Vegeta is a fan favorite (including me ) because he is essentially the product of goku and frieza's flat arc. Vegeta is caught in between the maim evil and the main good. No wonder he has traits from both.
@@john-olivierlukama1548 Wait but- instead of being brought to the good like vegeta, what if he's brought to the BAD side? Man that would've been interesting
@@Tomohiko_Tatsuno He only married her out of sympathy not because he really loved her, he didn't even remember who she was when they fought. You can argue that he grew to love her over time, but that relationship benefited her more than it did him.
Freeza: The cold tyrannical villain who knows no sympathy Cell: The culmination of everyone’s strength being used against them and is evil only to the extent of hating those who are in his way Buu: A being of chaos made to only destroy without thoughts or feelings and used as a tool for Bibidi and Babidi Zamasu: Driven to evil from multiple outside sources in which he disproved of but was not allowed to interfere with until he snapped
@@ZeoSleeps no man, every buu is pretty much the same, kid buu is just the least rational but he's always trying to entertain himself. If he was only a destruction robot as described, he would've killed Vegita and the others in an instant instead of toying with them.
Freeza reminds me a lot of the Joker( especially Heath Ledger's portrayal) The Joker never really had a definitive origin story, because that would make him too human. You're not supposed to feel sorry for the Joker because he's pure chaos.
That was a terrible portrayal of batman and joker, the best portrayals are the golden age rebirth and frank miller. Frieza and Goku are more similar to Superman and Darkseid kinda similar to their classic versions from the older versions.
Also, just because a character doesn't make an entire 180 in terms of alignment doesn't mean they can't or don't develop. Despite Frieza being evil from the moment we first see him up until now doesn't mean he never changed. In fact, he has changed a lot, and that's demonstrated in the video. Notice how at the beginning, Frieza is incredibly cocky and uses brute force to get whatever he wants. In Super, Frieza has toned down his cockiness quite a lot as his defeat at the hands of Goku, Toppo, Broly and even seeing what Beerus and Zeno are capable of has forced Frieza to adapt to the reality that he is indeed not the single most powerful being in the universe. He more often relies on manipulation now, which is why he wants Broly on his side so bad because he KNOWS he probably can't beat Goku 1v1 and certainly can't deal with Goku if Vegeta is there backing him up. To an extent, Frieza respects Goku. Not as a friend, but as a formidable adversary. He knows Goku isn't a pushover and that if he wants to ever defeat him, he's going to need all the help he can get. In Super, Frieza relies less on being a bully and more on his cunning and natural talent when it comes to manipulating those around him to get to his goals. Frieza didn't change sides, but he definitely developed as a character - so much that he was even willing to fight alongside the one person he hates more than anyone in existence as long as it meant he could be brought back to life.
When you remove the tragic backstory, you can focus in making an evil character with style, charm, and mad swag. Frieza and dio are the best examples in anime.
Dio actually does have a pretty shitty backstory, the story just goes "fuck off" when he tries to play it towards people in the 2nd episode and he goes "lol yeah you're right actually" and then becomes a based gigachad.
@@micromints1735 hell no. Dio was literally saved by George Joestar and had all the opportunities to reinvent himself & heritage to be a great man and he squandered it being jealous of Johnathan. He makes me more frustrated than Freiza. Dio is literally a perfect looking man, perfect physique, intelligent, rich due to daddy warbucks adopting him, what else more does he want???
Came looking for this, it's crazy how short it feels I've followed mark but been doing so since his anatomy series, and all of that just to be gone with in a few hours hurts as a fan. Hell the fact even the UI goku speed draw and Kakarot cover redraw was taken down just downright shows he was targeted
Anale Beads I mean can you call it character development if he went straight back to his old ways, I mean he did fight alongside Goku but that was because he didn’t want to be erased from existence. I think it’s safer to say his personality has been expanded even more, rather than development.
@Firelord86 Yeah, im not with the whole every evil person needs to develop or have a sympathetic backstory. Some people really are just evil just because they can be and Frieza is a representation of those types. Pure psychopathy
A lot of people are under the notion that sympathetic villains are more "Realistic". I'm a school teacher and I firmly disagree with that. Freeza grew up raised by king Cold and was told he could do whatever he liked to the planets they conquered. I have personally met my fair share of little ingrates who adore the idea of being above their fellow classmates so much and then lash out in anger or even violence when challenged, corrected, or asked to do something they don't want to do because at home they get what they want. They're not dumb. In fact some are quite talented in certain areas. This is just how they think of the world around them. Meanwhile some writers just slap on a sob story where this one time before they became villains they had a really bad day and now they believe they are justified at giving other people really bad days. Sometimes that's written well other times it feels like the writer is just tacking something on. I think one of the best examples of this is comparing Disney's 1991 Gaston to their 2017 Gaston. In the animated one the town loved how talented and handsome a hunter he was and spoiled him with praise and that's why he felt he was entitled to the woman he thought was hot. In the live action one they bring up how he survived a war and that maybe he struggles with keeping violent tendencies in check sometimes and it doesn't really go anywhere. It's just added on.
That and some unsympathetic villains are so charismatic in their evil ways that they are considered as better villains than complex one, and there are a lot of them like Dio or Maleficient.
@@scipion3679 after watching Jojo and finally finishing the end of stardust crusaders, I can confirm that Dio is quite possibly one of the greatest villians of all time.
Yeah, totally. Freeza is raised to be a brat with no empathy. I was very happy that the new movie (Brolyl opens up to this why Freeza is the emperor and his father isn't. Its not that Cold Can't be the emperor, or Freeza usurped him. It's just that Cold WANTS to sit back in retirement and watch his merciless offspring make the shots. Because he has raised a powerful and unempathetic person. Not once in any movie or the series is it shown that Freeza disrespects or acts up to his father. In fact he obeys him, although he could probably and easily kill him. So there is Something there. I think it's the appreciation for his position, his bloodline and the the understanding of the contempt thwy both have for other races and weaker beings. His father allowed him to be this way.
Not only that but frieza is the first one to put fear in goku’s heart in dbz. There was a scene where goku actually hesitated to attack when he had an opening because of friezas power
Or maybe he is, he seems to be pretty smart when the time comes to it, I'd put a theory out there that Goku's probably the most manipulative character.
@@up5169 honestly you're not entirely wrong here. Sometimes but not in most of it, Goku isn't even being dumb. He just doesn't give a shit about the danger he puts himself in because that shit is fun to him
@@awesomemccoolname7111 I believe this was back when Toei Animation took down basically all of Mark's videos, except this one. Which is ironic as being an unsympathetic villain was quite in line with Toei's actions at the time.
This was actually a wonderful video. I’ve been with dragonball for the long haul, but I left with a deeper appreciation for Frieza after watching this. You showcased just why we like him, even if we didn’t exactly know why ourselves explicitly. I feel like I learned something about story from this. Well done.
Love coming back to these videos. An unsympathetic villain I immediately enjoyed was All for One. The way he conducts himself and uses others is a lot like Frieza. He carries every scene he is in.
The first introduction of Frieza where Gohan, Krillin and Bulma are hiding in that cave while Frieza and his forces fly past was probably one of the most intensely chilling moments in Z. IT was just so well executed.
"True character is revealed in the choices a human being makes under pressure- the greater the pressure, the deeper the revelation, the truer the choice to the character's essential nature."
Say what you will, but the fact Frieza is pure evil just works so well with him. It is an awesome timeless classic to have him be the most evil thing ever. I hope he stays evil.
Frieza is honestly one of my favourite fictional villains of all time. He just oozes charisma. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't The Joker from DC kinda fall into the "unsympathetic villain" category along with Frieza?
Yeah. Im pretty sure either it was toei or toriyama in an interview saying they're trying to make freiza like joker, so goku would be batman and frieza joker.
One of the few videos not taken by Toei that is based on DBZ, let's hope it stays this way and we even get the others back. I and many others support you Mark.
I just love Freiza's design, I think that his final form is another reason behind his popularity. He is a pure villain and his final form truly reflects that purity.
Frankly, the more we learn of Saiyans, the more Frieza seems totally justified in wiping them out. If he ever wanted a stable Empire, these savage, warmongering nutjobs couldn't be allowed to exist.
There are wiser ways to do that. But then, Frieza's biggest weakness isn't even his arrogance, it's his inability to foresee and believe in personal consequences to his actions. When he destroyed Vegeta, he didn't follow through. When he went to earth for revenge, he didn't bring overwhelming force. When he was resurrected, he didn't do anything to gauge Goku's strength to determine if he had overwhelming force yet. I'm willing to bet this same mistake screws him in the Broly matter (haven't seen it yet) since it's a pattern of his.
@@mechwarriorny He was right though; Nappa casually suggests exterminating earths men and raping all the woman. Vegeta only shoots it down because the results could be dangerous and instead decides to just blow up the planet. Mass murderers and rapists the lot of them; how exactly could they be seen as better than Frieza? Goku Is the exception, not the rule. #FriezaDidNothingWrong
Did you forget Bardock? He saw the visions of his future and tries to do the right thing, even if it meant he died trying. Not everything is black and white
At least he cares about his friends and wanted to avenge them. And killing people was a job. He didn't enjoy it but he did it because it was his job. And he tried to do the right thing after seeing visions of Goku and seeing the kind if msn he would become. He had more character development and growth than most of the cast in SU.
My favorite villain from DBZ was Bu, specifically, Kid Bu. The whole thing about being completely unrestrained and not caring about anything other than destroying things made him scarier than other villains.
The best villain was frieza. The scariest villain was kid buu. Unrestrained destruction coupled with a very lacking sense of self preservation. Buu comes off more as an amoral villain though, rather than cunning and manipulative. Buu in his pure form lacks regular mortal morals, and doesnt have an end goal (save destroying everything). In a way he resembles a doomsday from superman, a worthy opponent, but hardly the source of evil who wrought or summoned it. Not a bad villain by any means, but nowhere near the figure that freeza represents.
The best villain was frieza. The scariest villain was kid buu. Unrestrained destruction coupled with a very lacking sense of self preservation. Buu comes off more as an amoral villain though, rather than cunning and manipulative. Buu in his pure form lacks regular mortal morals, and doesnt have an end goal (save destroying everything). In a way he resembles a doomsday from superman, a worthy opponent, but hardly the source of evil who wrought or summoned it. Not a bad villain by any means, but nowhere near the figure that freeza represents.
I know it's two years on, but I think that this is yet another thing team four star understood as seen from Frieza's short monologue in their new video "Cell in a Hell"
Honestly when I first heard Freeza would be coming back for the Tournament I was like "Ew why??" but ever since his resurrection I've been more and more on board with his involvement and character changes in the story.
I really miss classic villains like Freeza. Despite what I say in one of my video series, I do enjoy tragic villains and sympathetic ones such as Ardyn Izunia but feel they have become the norm and oversaturated. I think they need. Villains who are plain evil can be just as interesting characters, they just need a colorful personality sometimes.
Absolutely loved the four videos about the character types and how it correlates to dragon ball with its storytelling. Thank you for the informative detail and for portraying it so interestingly. Hope you're doing alright Mark, you sounded a bit different in this video.. a bit melancholic possibly? Not sure, but I wanted to make sure you were alright even if its not my place.
Great video. Frieza has always been my favorite villain because he is irredeemable. He is straight up evil and embraces it. Unlike many other DB characters, he doesn’t turn a new leaf because of meeting Goku.
When doing a poll on anything, the more popular character/thing wins pretty much universally. Hell you could make a poll about a statistical or objective "best" thing and theyll still be like "Well i like this one" or "I have a ton of nostalgia for this one " and choose the popular one regardless of what the parameters of the question was You could be like "Who has more screen time in Dragon Ball? Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, or Piccolo?" And people will be like "Vegeta is my favorite character so i picked him."
You know I truly didn’t like Friezas final form as a kid, I think it was the simplicity of it, but now as an adult especially since he got his golden form I actually think he has the best final form design out of any DBZ villain.
The unsympathetic villain. Toei knows what they're doing and they know how it reflects them to a T. Their message of disdain on Mark is abhorrent. Both RUclips and Toei are at fault and I only hope that RUclips will take the right action, even if only just to protect their self-image, as it would be good to right the wrong that Toei has done regardless. Edit : WE FUCKIN WON
I really think it's because Freeza doesn't have some tragic backstory or isn't written to be someone that I'm supposed to empathize with, that I can actually enjoy him. He truly believes that he is the top of the mountain, the peak of all mortal life. Everything he does is to obtain or maintain that belief. As such, everyone else are just insects. Some are useful while others are there to be used and discarded. But even he has brief moments that make him relatable. Like explaining what his wish is in the Broly movie. He's sensitive about that fact that he's short. How many short people wish a magical dragon could make them a little taller? And yet, even in this, he's still Freeza. If anything, through his time in the franchise he's learned to be more patient. Notice that he doesn't go back on his word and directly attack Earth. He has Broly to do it for him and when that fails, he doesn't throw a fit or try to blow up the earth. He leaves to bide his time. And yet, we know someday he'll return to try and get revenge once more. Freeza is one of the best things to come out of the Dragon Ball franchise.
8:48 "TRUE CHARACTER is revealed in the choices a human being makes under pressure - the greater the pressure, the deeper the revelation, the truer the choice to the character's essential nature." Robert McKee
Story-wise, putting 17 and Frieza together multiple times in the TOP when things were super intense was a stroke of genius. 17 had become the perfect example of the way interaction with Goku makes a character better. He has the same hero mentality Goku has, but he’s more intelligent and logical, and therefore likely less repulsive to someone like Frieza. Like you said, Frieza is the perfect example of someone who doesn’t change as a result of his interaction with Goku. In fact, he despises him more and more and even spurns Goku’s trust because of his naivety. But 17 is just like Goku, only more relatable to Frieza. Because of this, I think 17 was the most influential person to him in this whole arc. He gave a realistic representation of what it looks like to have been a villain who can change. 17 also is one of the only characters who doesn’t judge Frieza (likely because he has had no prior experience with him). I think that goes a long way in influencing someone’s character for the better too. I would argue that even though Frieza has seemingly reverted to his old ways, his interactions with 17 and Goku have begun to change him. It’ll be interesting if this gets explored over time, like it was with Vegeta back in the day.
I would prefer if Frieza stayed evil, but the idea of him and 17 being vitriolic deep-space pen pals after the Tournament of Power because 17 is the only member of the Earth crew he can stand would be funny
Man thank you for your beautiful work.. the art and the way you wrote this helped a ton im actually able to figure things out moving forward with my own comic book series !
Thank you for this video, I am honestly so freaking tired of everybody claiming a character needs to change in order to be a well-written character, ignoring other factors such as their personality, philosophy, and impact within a story. Not saying I can not enjoy a dynamic character but static characters can be just as well written an any dynamic is, and even written better in a few cases. PS: I use the terms Static and Dynamic instead of Flat and round because I feel the former terms hold less of a negative connotation.
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Which villain in Dragon Ball do you think was the best?
Black and Frieza are my top two
Frieza and Zamasu (tho Zamas was kind of wasted potential)
The best dragon ball villain was Ginyu to be honest.. he embodies a crazy and loyal gentleman with a fantastic move set, his willingness to serve frieza is funny to see as well
Frieza and King Piccolo
Cell is my favorite Dragon Ball villain so by default he's the best in my opinion of course (specking of Cell any chance you'll do a video about him in the future?)
Frieza is perfect as a villain because he's just like Emperor Palpatine: Not just evil but DELIGHTFULLY evil. He revels in his own evil. It's fantastic
YagamiFire plus they’re both extremely manipulative, which is always fun to watch
Frieza is the perfect alien god.
That's why frieza is so good. He takes pure pleasure out of being evil. Only looking for his own gain. There is no manipulating him, no reasoning. If it benefits him hes in. If it doesnt he will go evil.
YagamiFire he’s up there with joker as the greatest villain ever
It's similar to what makes Dio from JoJo so appealing
Glad the Dragon Ball Community has a Character Analysis Channel. This shit was gold.
true, i simply love this
Kinda like Frieza
@@justabrown-hairedfloof2859 eyyy
A great one at that
No,freaza is cool!
"But the villain can't just have power, he needs to have personality. A sort of charisma."
Jiren has left the conversation.
Jiren never entered the conversation in the first place.
Jiren was never a villian in the first place.
Jiren is not a villain
Hes not a character either
Manga jiren is characters
Auto-tuned baby-cry Zamasu is the highest tier villain, hands down.
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You mean highest "tear".
Eh? Ehhh?
@@TacosAreWizard Stop, your puns are too powerful!
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5:46 Do you ever just sit in your bubble car and create tension, just to flex on the namekian villagers?
I do.....
@@firegator6853 Weird flex but ok...
Every sunday
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I pray frieza stays evil. He's just a badass.
Yes thank you
Same
Frieza is the best villain of all time!
Freeza is irredeemable. Goku has had an influence on him, but not enough of one to change the ideals he's held his whole life.
common viewer they have polar opposite ideals, I hope freeza never becomes “good” because I feel his redeeming quality is his cunningness, you never know what he is gonna do unlike Goku because his motives are pretty much clear.
@@ratlosmappy Exactly! I feel as though his whole character is "Villian" and he is the very definition of "does as he pleases." He has one of the best chemistries with Goku because of his character traits. I however, how no issues with him working with goku.
Frieza is the closest to Buu as far as death count in U7 I would think. He's definitely beyond help.
Goku helped Freeza develop as a warrior, learning not to underestimate his opponent and a little bit of teamwork, but he definetly didn't leave as a better person.
Though it may be the reason as for why he's nicer to his minions.
I think Freeza is so scared of Hell he'll play along. He realized he could achieve what he wanted without being labeled a villain. With what he went through in the tournament of power, having to be saved by Gohan, Goku and 17 over and over then saving them too... I think the writers are going to consider it as an excuse to keep him around in the series.
For those who keep asking... I drew all the thumbnails for these character essays.
Nice
Loving your own comment is probably the most wholesome thing ever ❤️
Need that Gohan video Mark.
bullshit. that's really close to toriyama's style
@@ken-yo2hz Toyotaro can draw like that too, so why not?
Frieza is HANDS DOWN the best DBZ villain. His unapologetic behavior is so satisfying as a villain lover. His classy speech pattern reminds me of mafia bosses with money & power. Love Frieza as a villain
Frieza is like this because Toriyama thought that car and/or land dealers were the most evil people of all.
My favorite is cell just because his perfect form has friezas special dialect with a differential personality
Rather tone not dialect
@@fusedbrololy8672 I am in love with perfect Cell. He’s beautiful and evil. He has dna of everyone so it’s a lot to admire about him
I love Cell more, but I adore Frieza very closely as well. He's just so interesting. And I love his history with the saiyans.
Finally someone touched on this. I don't mind a villain just being evil. There are people even irl that are simply evil and despicable people just cuz. Fiction to an extent is just an abstract exaggerated recreation of the real world. I don't see any issues with those characters, personally.
"There are people even irl that are simply evil and despicable people just cuz." There ARE, but...
*Most* of the people society calls "evil" (militants, terrorists, conmen etc etc) are the ones that think that they are in the right. Only a minority of those "evil people" are sadistic douchebags who know they are in the wrong. Thus, it's far more realistic to have a villain that actually thinks that they themselves are the good guy.
Whether you think being realistic is a good thing or not is up to you.
jussayin
@@helloturkey1143 You have a point. Im not saying the villain market should be over saturated with psychopaths who are just born without a care in the world for others..making that character's reasoning for committing atrocious acts easier. I'm just saying that I don't have a problem with their presence, especially if they're done well like Frieza or Dio, from JoJo's Bizzare Adv.
You are wrong. Noone thinks themselves a villain.
@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 False, Petar Brzica, Klaus Barbie, Hillary Clinton, just to name a few.
+HelloTurkey
Trust me people being evil for the sake of evil are all to real. You just haven't met enough people yet. and isn't the point of fantasy to show the eccentric/the shining stars and wierdos of socity that have equally eccentric adventures. Nobody likes to know the story of Bob down the street and even so he has to become a special most of us would never be by the end of the story.
So showing these "minorty" is realistic as well. Whether it makes good writing is a whole different story.
Oh, Freeza does change overtime alright.
"Sir, why do you want the Dragon Balls?"
"TO GROW 5CM TALLER!!"
I love that change to his character. He's still vain, but realized that he has enemies that can rival him, so he changed his approach to the issue so he doesn't seem as much of a threat, and uses underhanded tactics to get what he wants.
He got a taste of true struggle thanks to Goku and gang, so he learns to adapt with every attempt and failure to get a leg-up on the competition.
it perfectly fits his narcissistic personality. The original frieza wanted immortality so that he could rule forever he did not want strength because he thought of himself as the strongest creature in creation (acknowledge Beerus did not exist, and Freeza did not know of him at the time) Frieza character was so masterful written that he is still consistent in the "being 5cm taller" wish because you logically could attach him making that wish after being immortal.
remember Frieza pointed out that he didnt want his change in size to be dramatic meaning he is/was willing make several 5cm taller wishes over a very long span of time.
He also knows that his wish can be easily undone since there are a lot of people with access to Dragon Balls. :) Back on Planet Namek he thought it's undisputedly the most strongest being in the universe by far (except Beerus and maybe Majin Buu) without the knowledge of the other versions of Dragon Balls. He would have first somehow find a way to wipe a lot of characters first before being able to wish immortality or else it would be meaningless. Besides, I think he likes all of the fighting and competition.
He can get taller in his golden form
@@Rikorage plus he's not the top dog anymore so the absolute arrogance is gone
Majin Buu: Crack Head
Cell: Lawyer
Frieza: Politician
Frieza (True Form): Real Estate Speculator (per Toriyama)
Zamasu: a gardener tending his fields and removing the weeds from them.
Cell: Frank Sinatra
It's a joke!
Broly: male groupie?
@@songoku4742 Broly: Confused Child
That's why the Dark Knight's Joker is such a great villain. The writer does not apply pressure on him to reveal his true nature. The Joker himself applies maximum pressure on Gotham City so they will reveal their moral hypocrisy. He is both the villain and the writer of the story.
great example
Yeah but my problem isn’t necessarily with Joker but Batman. Everyone knows Batman won’t kill and Batman still gives him the benefit of a doubt and Joker knows and uses that. The joker literally has no consequences because Batman is too much of a good guy to change him. Even bad people have to be out down in society today with lethal injection for the good of the public because otherwise all these sociopaths would be given the treatment as joker only for them to keep doing the same thing. Batman doesn’t want to kill Joker for himself not necessarily for the public. It’s literally a selfish desire so he doesn’t break a rule he won’t cross. But it’s not smart, it doesn’t even make sense. Just kill him and many problems will be solved. Obviously new issues would rise but there’s plenty of other villains to keep Batman busy. All Batman ever does is send his villains to the Arkham asylum but they all literally break out, leave, or just simply walk over the asylum to the point that it’s not even a useful place. I’m not saying he should just kill everyone but he can kill Joker because Joker is a straight psychotic maniac that cannot be Frieza. Technically the same is happening with Frieda but Goku is always there to stop him and so are gods so Frieza actually has to be careful unlike Joker who ,again, has literally no consequences even with other heroes being there
@@eli2210 outside of the dark knight Batman who has a great mentality of he’ll never kill you be he has no obligation to save you is prolly the best version of Batman’s no killing mentally.
Your very right joker is literally just a road bump on every street but if you get rid of the speed bump there’s no issue for the people but with Batman (just an analogy btw) doesn’t remove those speed bumps because he just doesn’t want to cause if he does he’ll think he’ll go to fast and wild out on the road which is selfish of him.
"Poits a finger at you" Bang!
Gotta love Frieza. Even at his small stature he looks down on everyone. And he will destroy your world with his pinky raised, like a proper snob ^^
And when he goes to his second form he can physically stare just about anyone down XD
The real joy of watching an unsympathetic villain is that we can delight in their suffering, guilt free. This allows us to enjoy our sadistic side without feeling like we are evil. Watching Frieza getting his ass kicked or otherwise humiliated is hilarious.
We should have that Broly beating up freeza,It would be even more hilarious
(._.°) yep i don't like frieza because I like watching him doing his evill deeds because I find it cool not me definitely
You kids live in a fantasy. One thing Dragon Ball gets right is that the bad guy doesn’t always lose. But in life u don’t get wished back to life.
@@jadedpigeon5585Thanks, Grandpa. Back to your scotch, now.
@@chriswentz5197buddy do I have news for you!
The contrast between Goku, Vegeta, Broly and Frieza I really like. I’m really happy with what Toriyama has done with the character since his first revival (excluding RoF)
FUCKING FACTS
Considering he's worked off years of badass decay, Freeza's on fire! That being said, I'm still trying to figure out where Beerus, Freeza and Broly will be at in the future. Especially if the manga's ending is still canon...
Unfortunately Freeza's character was completely butchered by bringing him back alive. Making a genocidal maniac a laughing stock in the new movie.
@@ken-yo2hz idk if you are joking or stupid how did the new movie make him a laughing stock 😑
@@ken-yo2hz lol no
5:46 " *FLEX HIS CLOUT OVER THE VILLAGERS* " why did i picture freeza decked out in designer
Weird flex but ok
Supreme freeza
Basically flexing clout is what you would say if you have expensive clothes and are showing them off to other people. Thats why you picture Frieza wearing designer.
🎣💨
that made me laugh lol
Drip freiza
Freeza is literally a Sociopathic Spoiled Brat. Yes he’s intelligent and Brutal but he DEADASS doesn’t care for anyone but himself. Not even his own father by the slightest and his most loyal henchmen Zarbon and Ginyu
Trump's pretty similar, only being different in paying some respects to people who cater to him... though he often doesn't even support loyal followers, as evidenced by the complaints of people who currently and formerly worked closely to him.
Poochie you just had to bring politics into dragon ball. Can’t people just enjoy something without it being political
@@SudlaSteel : it's very relevant to the video topic.
@@PoochieCollins Why can't Americans ever shut the fuck up about their politics ? You have no idea how annoying you guys are annoying online and IRL, it's impossible to talk to you without Trump coming up. If you took the time to enjoy stuff without thinking about him maybe you would be less perpetually butthurt.
Poochie Collins literally nobody cares, this is a dragon ball video, not a political one.
I can't express my gratitude towards you Mark, for creating these amazing videos showcasing the deeper meaning of the franchise we love, without caring about recognition of your work, but by doing it for yourself and for fun. For us as well xD
True
@Conrad Kujur Isn't it my friend?
The thing that makes an unsympathetic villain so great to me is because of how their unfettered cruelty makes them a more viable threat unlike the sympathetic villain who because of their more human quality means that you could try talking them out of committing evil acts and appealing to their humanity in a way that you could never do otherwise with the complete monster villain
I think the reason that frieza is so menacing is his intelligence, sophistication and indiscriminate menace, and his neutral evil character makes one of the greatest villains in not just anime history but in all of pop culture
According to Ginyu, he's a nice boss though. He's generous with the pay and benefits for his army. He also provided armors and healing benefit for in-work injuries.
He's the kind of villain who prefers to persuade or coerce people who can be useful to serve him rather than destroying them on sight.
At least in Namek saga, he consistently offers everyone who became worthy of his attention a job and only proceeded to kill them when they refused and insisted to get in his way.
I'm beginning to think my people don't understand what I pay them for
You don't pay us
Allow them to live for
When does Ginyu talk about working for Freeza? I'm genuinely curious.
The soundtrack of DBZ is one of the most underrated elements of the entire saga
@TripleDoubleNoTAS Yes, because of Nostalgia.
Agreed
It sounds like old space opera music. While fitting for the time, it sounds exceptionally dated these days.
@@onyxt3589 no. It's overall amazing. As someone who didn't grow up on DB i can tell you for sure that it's not because of nostalgia.
@@Jack-qe5qm i was referring to the Faulconer soundtrack.
The fact is there are some people who are bad and will always be bad. They may not have been born that way, but they made choices that led them to this life of villainy. That's the way the real world works too as seen with various dictators, murderers, criminals, and monsters throughout history. You don't always need a sympathetic or complicated villain with a relatable philosophy.
The best explanation is often the simplest one and the simple fact is some people are evil and they like it that way.
I've been seeing more and more Kenobi accounts by the day, and I am not disappointed.
@@litening1337 wait there not all the same guy?
Obi-Wan Kenobi Truth
infogalactic.com/info/Petar_Brzica alchetron.com/Petar-Brzica
And brother, are they ever proud of it! The dude wore his fingernails to the bone cutting people's necks!
Also let's not forget everyone's favourite cannibalistic world leader Idi Amin!
My favourite story of his: he captured the ringleader of a coup against him and promised he'd personally see the guy home safely if he ratted out the rest. Invited him onto his private chopper after he did so, flew him back to his home village. Gave him a fancy Italian coat as a gift, then took off. Turns out the coat was sewn full of C4,as once he was about 500 feet away, the house exploded. "I never promised he'd still be safe after he got home!" Some truly admirable cartoon villainy right there!
@@connorschultz380 While it's true that many Kenobi accounts exist (clones, what can you do?) there is only one true Obi-Wan Kenobi and he is me! The original. The genuine article if you will! ;-)
Now I can't get the image of a jew sent away before The Night of Broken Glass going SuperJewish to fight Hitlers final form out of my head.
"Zis isn't even mein final form..."
Gg
That was basically Eli Roth's character, The Bear Jew.
Space Hitler
Hitlers final form is him with a hipster mustache.
Pure evil villains are severely underrated. For me, they're my favourite villain type.
Some people just want to see the world burn
Underrated I don't know about that.
They gotta love being evil. I like Palpatine myself.
They can't be your favorite villain type. You just like the narrative in which those types of characters fit in. They only work within a certain narrative; that's literally what the video was about.
Yeah. one of my favorite pure evil villains are beast wars megatron, tarantulus, and lockdown. They ENJOY being bad
Unapologetic, unsympathetic. The perfect villain who wants nothing but to gain for himself. No regard for life of anyone. He has no true allies. He rules by fear alone. During the first frieza arc I was worried he would be turned by goku and ruin the character. So glad they kept him true to his character. And mostly continued with it in super. In the end he respected goku and others and stayed true to his word, but only because it benefited him.
And because they were friends with Bills , and he doesn' t want to mess with him .
Joker to Batman: "This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object."
dragonball was inspired by superman
@@poorsoul8492 DBZ, yes. But the original DB was inspired by Journey to the West.
The American version of Goku in Dragon Ball Z was inspired by Superman...
@@TheKinglaharl Goku's DBZ origin was already inspired by Superman no matter the dub.
I heard this when Hulk Hogan faced Andre The Giant in WWF
I think Vegeta is a fan favorite (including me ) because he is essentially the product of goku and frieza's flat arc. Vegeta is caught in between the maim evil and the main good. No wonder he has traits from both.
Damn you are a fan favourite congrats
That could be broly now. Stuck between goku and freeza's flat character arcs.
@@john-olivierlukama1548 Wait but- instead of being brought to the good like vegeta, what if he's brought to the BAD side?
Man that would've been interesting
Insta-sub. I enjoyed this so much. All the love for Freeza, definitely! Seeing the scene from DBS: Broly is one of my Top 3 Freeza moments, easy.
That scene felt sort of forced to me. Guess they didn't have enough screen time to flesh that one out
"No character in the entire series has manipulated goku like frieza has"
Chichi would like a word with you
So kewl
XD
Another example of DBZA influencing what people think the characters are like. In the show Goku and Chi-Chi have a very loving relationship.
In truth it was her dad who manipulated Goku to the greatest extent. He got Goku to agree to marry her without Goku knowing what being married means.
@@Tomohiko_Tatsuno He only married her out of sympathy not because he really loved her, he didn't even remember who she was when they fought. You can argue that he grew to love her over time, but that relationship benefited her more than it did him.
Freeza: The cold tyrannical villain who knows no sympathy
Cell: The culmination of everyone’s strength being used against them and is evil only to the extent of hating those who are in his way
Buu: A being of chaos made to only destroy without thoughts or feelings and used as a tool for Bibidi and Babidi
Zamasu: Driven to evil from multiple outside sources in which he disproved of but was not allowed to interfere with until he snapped
When you think about it, every villain is unique in personality and goals. Even if multiple of them can use the kamehameha
@@VaporYTVideo 👀 Gotem
I wouldn't describe buu like that. Instead I'd say he's just a spoiled brat who sees everything and everyone as his toys
@@sergiosarmiento4371 I think he means kid buu, because Fat Buu is just spoiled brat imo.
@@ZeoSleeps no man, every buu is pretty much the same, kid buu is just the least rational but he's always trying to entertain himself. If he was only a destruction robot as described, he would've killed Vegita and the others in an instant instead of toying with them.
Freeza reminds me a lot of the Joker( especially Heath Ledger's portrayal)
The Joker never really had a definitive origin story, because that would make him too human.
You're not supposed to feel sorry for the Joker because he's pure chaos.
dmp762 well this didn’t age well..
@@jayrockthegoat3786 lol
Welp time to throw that out the window
Yeah, the last person that felt sympathy towards the Joker he threw out of a window. Frieza will do just the same.
That was a terrible portrayal of batman and joker, the best portrayals are the golden age rebirth and frank miller.
Frieza and Goku are more similar to Superman and Darkseid kinda similar to their classic versions from the older versions.
Also, just because a character doesn't make an entire 180 in terms of alignment doesn't mean they can't or don't develop. Despite Frieza being evil from the moment we first see him up until now doesn't mean he never changed. In fact, he has changed a lot, and that's demonstrated in the video. Notice how at the beginning, Frieza is incredibly cocky and uses brute force to get whatever he wants. In Super, Frieza has toned down his cockiness quite a lot as his defeat at the hands of Goku, Toppo, Broly and even seeing what Beerus and Zeno are capable of has forced Frieza to adapt to the reality that he is indeed not the single most powerful being in the universe. He more often relies on manipulation now, which is why he wants Broly on his side so bad because he KNOWS he probably can't beat Goku 1v1 and certainly can't deal with Goku if Vegeta is there backing him up. To an extent, Frieza respects Goku. Not as a friend, but as a formidable adversary. He knows Goku isn't a pushover and that if he wants to ever defeat him, he's going to need all the help he can get. In Super, Frieza relies less on being a bully and more on his cunning and natural talent when it comes to manipulating those around him to get to his goals. Frieza didn't change sides, but he definitely developed as a character - so much that he was even willing to fight alongside the one person he hates more than anyone in existence as long as it meant he could be brought back to life.
Flat characters do develop, but not in the way that rounded characters do.
There's also the fact that he doesn't even want immortality or an invincible body anymore because that would take the fun out of it.
Kul story bro
*japanese freeza laugh*
OOOHOOHOOHO
YOOOOOOOOOOO
_noblewoman laugh_
You seriously made me think of Larsa from Mushihimesama!
*laughs in Japanese*
*H e l l o , m o n k e y s .*
When you remove the tragic backstory, you can focus in making an evil character with style, charm, and mad swag. Frieza and dio are the best examples in anime.
Dio actually does have a pretty shitty backstory, the story just goes "fuck off" when he tries to play it towards people in the 2nd episode and he goes "lol yeah you're right actually" and then becomes a based gigachad.
@@micromints1735 hell no. Dio was literally saved by George Joestar and had all the opportunities to reinvent himself & heritage to be a great man and he squandered it being jealous of Johnathan. He makes me more frustrated than Freiza. Dio is literally a perfect looking man, perfect physique, intelligent, rich due to daddy warbucks adopting him, what else more does he want???
@@donttalktomeyoureannoying8736to be evil.
I love dwarf lizard space hitler, he’s my favorite villain
I love this comment.
Lol the fact that him wanting to grow taller was one of his objectives!!
Freeza is an incredible character, and this video does an amazing job explaining why. Awesome stuff!
Broly movie
Frieza is such an amazing villain because he's pure evil and, no matter how cliche he is, still refuses to change
Toei Animation: The Unsympathetic Villain
lmao its kinda sad to see all of his 150 videos were taken down after all that hardwork...lets see this before this also gets taken down
Came looking for this, it's crazy how short it feels I've followed mark but been doing so since his anatomy series, and all of that just to be gone with in a few hours hurts as a fan. Hell the fact even the UI goku speed draw and Kakarot cover redraw was taken down just downright shows he was targeted
Frieza’s TOP moments was arguably at his best when it came to his character development
Anale Beads I mean can you call it character development if he went straight back to his old ways, I mean he did fight alongside Goku but that was because he didn’t want to be erased from existence. I think it’s safer to say his personality has been expanded even more, rather than development.
I honestly just like Frieza being Frieza lol. Torturing people n shit. Its who he is and I don't want it any other way lol. As fucked as that sounds
@Firelord86 Yeah, im not with the whole every evil person needs to develop or have a sympathetic backstory. Some people really are just evil just because they can be and Frieza is a representation of those types. Pure psychopathy
I love Frieza, never hated a character so much like him but I love his ruthlessness. I hope he never turns good or morally grey!
A lot of people are under the notion that sympathetic villains are more "Realistic". I'm a school teacher and I firmly disagree with that. Freeza grew up raised by king Cold and was told he could do whatever he liked to the planets they conquered. I have personally met my fair share of little ingrates who adore the idea of being above their fellow classmates so much and then lash out in anger or even violence when challenged, corrected, or asked to do something they don't want to do because at home they get what they want. They're not dumb. In fact some are quite talented in certain areas. This is just how they think of the world around them.
Meanwhile some writers just slap on a sob story where this one time before they became villains they had a really bad day and now they believe they are justified at giving other people really bad days. Sometimes that's written well other times it feels like the writer is just tacking something on.
I think one of the best examples of this is comparing Disney's 1991 Gaston to their 2017 Gaston. In the animated one the town loved how talented and handsome a hunter he was and spoiled him with praise and that's why he felt he was entitled to the woman he thought was hot. In the live action one they bring up how he survived a war and that maybe he struggles with keeping violent tendencies in check sometimes and it doesn't really go anywhere. It's just added on.
That and some unsympathetic villains are so charismatic in their evil ways that they are considered as better villains than complex one, and there are a lot of them like Dio or Maleficient.
@@scipion3679 after watching Jojo and finally finishing the end of stardust crusaders, I can confirm that Dio is quite possibly one of the greatest villians of all time.
Yeah, totally. Freeza is raised to be a brat with no empathy. I was very happy that the new movie (Brolyl opens up to this why Freeza is the emperor and his father isn't. Its not that Cold Can't be the emperor, or Freeza usurped him. It's just that Cold WANTS to sit back in retirement and watch his merciless offspring make the shots. Because he has raised a powerful and unempathetic person. Not once in any movie or the series is it shown that Freeza disrespects or acts up to his father. In fact he obeys him, although he could probably and easily kill him. So there is Something there. I think it's the appreciation for his position, his bloodline and the the understanding of the contempt thwy both have for other races and weaker beings. His father allowed him to be this way.
@@notgray88 Dio is bae.
*Frieza
Not only that but frieza is the first one to put fear in goku’s heart in dbz. There was a scene where goku actually hesitated to attack when he had an opening because of friezas power
I like that Freeza is Goku's Joker. His Moriarty. Probably a bad allegory. Goku's no Sherlock but you get what I'm saying.
Or maybe he is, he seems to be pretty smart when the time comes to it, I'd put a theory out there that Goku's probably the most manipulative character.
nah hes Goku's Lex Luthor.
Now I imagine Freeza doing Joker lines.
@@gundiel8667 now it really sucks that vegeta wasnt the one to finish buu with gis kamekaze move
@@up5169 honestly you're not entirely wrong here. Sometimes but not in most of it, Goku isn't even being dumb. He just doesn't give a shit about the danger he puts himself in because that shit is fun to him
It's kinda ironic that the only video left is about the unsympathetic villain
What do you mean? There's lots of videos on this channel. Did the guy do something?
@@awesomemccoolname7111 I believe this was back when Toei Animation took down basically all of Mark's videos, except this one. Which is ironic as being an unsympathetic villain was quite in line with Toei's actions at the time.
@@toofyboofy well, at least it wasn't his fault. I hear Toei is ruthless about that kind of stuff.
Freeza is such a great villain. I can only imagine if he was 5cm taller
But he could uses his second form...
I hope he stays short
@@iChimbo He doesn’t want to because he desire to stay in his final form, otherwise he would be weaker. F
This was actually a wonderful video. I’ve been with dragonball for the long haul, but I left with a deeper appreciation for Frieza after watching this. You showcased just why we like him, even if we didn’t exactly know why ourselves explicitly. I feel like I learned something about story from this. Well done.
My favorite protagonists who have flat negative character arcs are the cast from Seinfeld.
Damn if that ain't true
The real unsympathetic villain: Toei
Freeza: What happens when you never tell your child "no."
Love coming back to these videos. An unsympathetic villain I immediately enjoyed was All for One. The way he conducts himself and uses others is a lot like Frieza. He carries every scene he is in.
The first introduction of Frieza where Gohan, Krillin and Bulma are hiding in that cave while Frieza and his forces fly past was probably one of the most intensely chilling moments in Z. IT was just so well executed.
"True character is revealed in the choices a human being makes under pressure- the greater the pressure, the deeper the revelation, the truer the choice to the character's essential nature."
Freeza and Goku are the PERFECT Villain/Hero relationship. At the same time, they're both the opposite, and yet somewhat the same.
Cal Sheridan can you elaborate on how they are the same? Please 🙂
Say what you will, but the fact Frieza is pure evil just works so well with him. It is an awesome timeless classic to have him be the most evil thing ever.
I hope he stays evil.
Looks like they forgot this one, let’s hope it stays that way
Nah this one got taken down once before. Its probably bc of he got this one up before
I am so glad this finally got back up, this is genuinely informative and interesting to watch.
This aged beautifully since Frieza aka Space Hitler is back in the manga and boy is his new transformation is hilarious after this analysis 🤣
He was unsympathetic until Broly knocked some sense into him
Edit: thank you so much for likes guys 🙏🙏 love you all
The man was absolutely destroyed
Now he hates monkeys and he scared of them
Frieza gonna have ptsd of Broly
For 1 hour.😝
Or probably a week as far as how he tells time.
Goku saying “have fun frieza” will be etched into his mind forever
Now he got that tragic backstory.
Frieza is honestly one of my favourite fictional villains of all time. He just oozes charisma. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't The Joker from DC kinda fall into the "unsympathetic villain" category along with Frieza?
Totally agree. I've been obsessed with him for nearly 20 years. :D
Yeah. Im pretty sure either it was toei or toriyama in an interview saying they're trying to make freiza like joker, so goku would be batman and frieza joker.
One of the few videos not taken by Toei that is based on DBZ, let's hope it stays this way and we even get the others back. I and many others support you Mark.
God... I've been loving these. You've been deepening my appreciation for Dragonball so much. Thank you for your work.
I just love Freiza's design, I think that his final form is another reason behind his popularity. He is a pure villain and his final form truly reflects that purity.
Frankly, the more we learn of Saiyans, the more Frieza seems totally justified in wiping them out. If he ever wanted a stable Empire, these savage, warmongering nutjobs couldn't be allowed to exist.
There are wiser ways to do that. But then, Frieza's biggest weakness isn't even his arrogance, it's his inability to foresee and believe in personal consequences to his actions. When he destroyed Vegeta, he didn't follow through. When he went to earth for revenge, he didn't bring overwhelming force. When he was resurrected, he didn't do anything to gauge Goku's strength to determine if he had overwhelming force yet. I'm willing to bet this same mistake screws him in the Broly matter (haven't seen it yet) since it's a pattern of his.
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He was right though; Nappa casually suggests exterminating earths men and raping all the woman. Vegeta only shoots it down because the results could be dangerous and instead decides to just blow up the planet. Mass murderers and rapists the lot of them; how exactly could they be seen as better than Frieza? Goku Is the exception, not the rule. #FriezaDidNothingWrong
Did you forget Bardock? He saw the visions of his future and tries to do the right thing, even if it meant he died trying. Not everything is black and white
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He also frequently committed planet wide genocides and seemed to enjoy doing it.
At least he cares about his friends and wanted to avenge them. And killing people was a job. He didn't enjoy it but he did it because it was his job. And he tried to do the right thing after seeing visions of Goku and seeing the kind if msn he would become. He had more character development and growth than most of the cast in SU.
Rest In Peace Chris Ayres…
He's actually not evil. We're the evil ones cause we're 5 centimeters (or more) taller than he is. It's not fair and he acts accordingly.
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Accurate name.
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My first real realization of this type was dio.
Fact is dio was before frieza ova one
Is this a JoJo reference?😂😂😂
DIO*
@@nack8670 I mean dio and DIO both have same personality there's nothing different except what they are wearing
youtube user yeah but DIO has a larger cock
My favorite villain from DBZ was Bu, specifically, Kid Bu. The whole thing about being completely unrestrained and not caring about anything other than destroying things made him scarier than other villains.
The best villain was frieza.
The scariest villain was kid buu. Unrestrained destruction coupled with a very lacking sense of self preservation.
Buu comes off more as an amoral villain though, rather than cunning and manipulative. Buu in his pure form lacks regular mortal morals, and doesnt have an end goal (save destroying everything).
In a way he resembles a doomsday from superman, a worthy opponent, but hardly the source of evil who wrought or summoned it.
Not a bad villain by any means, but nowhere near the figure that freeza represents.
The best villain was frieza.
The scariest villain was kid buu. Unrestrained destruction coupled with a very lacking sense of self preservation.
Buu comes off more as an amoral villain though, rather than cunning and manipulative. Buu in his pure form lacks regular mortal morals, and doesnt have an end goal (save destroying everything).
In a way he resembles a doomsday from superman, a worthy opponent, but hardly the source of evil who wrought or summoned it.
Not a bad villain by any means, but nowhere near the figure that freeza represents.
why is this the only video toei left for mark lol
to prove that they are the real villian
Toei took it down last year and Mark already went through the long process to get this video back.
These video essays diving into the construct of the characters we love are really top notch!
I know it's two years on, but I think that this is yet another thing team four star understood as seen from Frieza's short monologue in their new video "Cell in a Hell"
I’m going to use all your videos when anyone says “DBZ is just fighting and screaming”
Freeza and Dio are great examples of the unsympathetic villain done right.
hate that this is the only video they didn't take down
Think they did it on purpose
Yeah its ironic as hell. Toei are truly unsympathetic villains
Firelord Ozai is similar in some ways, although he was more of a monolithic villain than an enduring one. Great video essays as always.
Mark gets the vid back from demonetization. What a legend
"Some people just want to watch the world burn."
But Frieza wants to watch the world blow up
Honestly when I first heard Freeza would be coming back for the Tournament I was like "Ew why??" but ever since his resurrection I've been more and more on board with his involvement and character changes in the story.
Such gripping videos. I know if I start I have to watch it all. Really good work mate!
Thank you. It’s ok to have villains that r sadist or evil for their personal reasons👏👏👏
Not in this year
I really miss classic villains like Freeza. Despite what I say in one of my video series, I do enjoy tragic villains and sympathetic ones such as Ardyn Izunia but feel they have become the norm and oversaturated. I think they need. Villains who are plain evil can be just as interesting characters, they just need a colorful personality sometimes.
Absolutely loved the four videos about the character types and how it correlates to dragon ball with its storytelling.
Thank you for the informative detail and for portraying it so interestingly.
Hope you're doing alright Mark, you sounded a bit different in this video.. a bit melancholic possibly? Not sure, but I wanted to make sure you were alright even if its not my place.
Great video. Frieza has always been my favorite villain because he is irredeemable. He is straight up evil and embraces it. Unlike many other DB characters, he doesn’t turn a new leaf because of meeting Goku.
Love how you put M. Bison's theme at 1:40. Quite fitting for Freeza and the way he was in the Namek arc.
You noticed too! I agree it is fits perfectly.
When doing a poll on anything, the more popular character/thing wins pretty much universally.
Hell you could make a poll about a statistical or objective "best" thing and theyll still be like "Well i like this one" or "I have a ton of nostalgia for this one " and choose the popular one regardless of what the parameters of the question was
You could be like "Who has more screen time in Dragon Ball? Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, or Piccolo?" And people will be like "Vegeta is my favorite character so i picked him."
You know I truly didn’t like Friezas final form as a kid, I think it was the simplicity of it, but now as an adult especially since he got his golden form I actually think he has the best final form design out of any DBZ villain.
I personally agree
Yea but Perfect Cell's perfect jawline tho
@@gerotop I mean Goku would never Cheat on Chi Chi but oh boy is he so handsome.
@@mwperk02 👀 Who says Goku ish loyal but again he probably doesn't know how to cheat
@@goduzamaki4118 Team Four Star said it. I was more or less quoting them.
Freeza has always been my favorite villain. I like him even more now that I have seen this video. :)
Somehow I'm more sympathetic to Freeza more than I'll ever be for Toei
The unsympathetic villain. Toei knows what they're doing and they know how it reflects them to a T. Their message of disdain on Mark is abhorrent. Both RUclips and Toei are at fault and I only hope that RUclips will take the right action, even if only just to protect their self-image, as it would be good to right the wrong that Toei has done regardless.
Edit : WE FUCKIN WON
I really think it's because Freeza doesn't have some tragic backstory or isn't written to be someone that I'm supposed to empathize with, that I can actually enjoy him. He truly believes that he is the top of the mountain, the peak of all mortal life. Everything he does is to obtain or maintain that belief. As such, everyone else are just insects. Some are useful while others are there to be used and discarded. But even he has brief moments that make him relatable. Like explaining what his wish is in the Broly movie. He's sensitive about that fact that he's short. How many short people wish a magical dragon could make them a little taller? And yet, even in this, he's still Freeza. If anything, through his time in the franchise he's learned to be more patient. Notice that he doesn't go back on his word and directly attack Earth. He has Broly to do it for him and when that fails, he doesn't throw a fit or try to blow up the earth. He leaves to bide his time. And yet, we know someday he'll return to try and get revenge once more. Freeza is one of the best things to come out of the Dragon Ball franchise.
8:48 "TRUE CHARACTER is revealed in the choices a human being makes under pressure - the greater the pressure, the deeper the revelation, the truer the choice to the character's essential nature."
Robert McKee
Freeza is my favorite villain of all time
Story-wise, putting 17 and Frieza together multiple times in the TOP when things were super intense was a stroke of genius. 17 had become the perfect example of the way interaction with Goku makes a character better. He has the same hero mentality Goku has, but he’s more intelligent and logical, and therefore likely less repulsive to someone like Frieza. Like you said, Frieza is the perfect example of someone who doesn’t change as a result of his interaction with Goku. In fact, he despises him more and more and even spurns Goku’s trust because of his naivety. But 17 is just like Goku, only more relatable to Frieza. Because of this, I think 17 was the most influential person to him in this whole arc. He gave a realistic representation of what it looks like to have been a villain who can change. 17 also is one of the only characters who doesn’t judge Frieza (likely because he has had no prior experience with him). I think that goes a long way in influencing someone’s character for the better too. I would argue that even though Frieza has seemingly reverted to his old ways, his interactions with 17 and Goku have begun to change him. It’ll be interesting if this gets explored over time, like it was with Vegeta back in the day.
I would prefer if Frieza stayed evil, but the idea of him and 17 being vitriolic deep-space pen pals after the Tournament of Power because 17 is the only member of the Earth crew he can stand would be funny
The biggest villain is that spelling of friezia, freeza is crazy
Wow Frieza, looks like you really dropped the ball.
Dropped the ball.
Dropped the-
*blast attempt*
*lion king theme*
"you can't feel sorry for Frieza"
Me: well maybe except that one time he had to fight Broly for an hour just because he wanted to be taller
Man thank you for your beautiful work.. the art and the way you wrote this helped a ton im actually able to figure things out moving forward with my own comic book series !
Thank you for this video, I am honestly so freaking tired of everybody claiming a character needs to change in order to be a well-written character, ignoring other factors such as their personality, philosophy, and impact within a story. Not saying I can not enjoy a dynamic character but static characters can be just as well written an any dynamic is, and even written better in a few cases.
PS: I use the terms Static and Dynamic instead of Flat and round because I feel the former terms hold less of a negative connotation.