Thanks for posting this. I’ve found few videos of snowy FSD driving. The car is trying hard, but there’s still some improvement needed to be a low-stress unsupervised ride for passengers. Tesla team: increase the following distance when in Chill mode. This is too close, especially on a snowy highway.
You'll love v13 man I did a short road trip of 207 miles totally on fsd, it dodged a runaway tire on the road very smoothly i was mind blown, i wish i had my cameras on, I'm not a content creator so, i just use fsd for fun. Believe me y'all will be mind blown, I even tested it with a fake mask which has an eyeball and I could trick the vehicle which is a problem but honestly I felt asleep for about 30 minutes and when I woke up, I was still on the way comfortable maneuvering in traffic smoothly, i didn't have anyone in the car with me though, but i really wish to see y'all reaction when you finally get this, I was mind blown words can't explain.
Thanks soo much for your comment! Yes I'm soo very excited to test it! Can't wait till it rolls out wide and we get it here in Canada. Did you get lucky enough to be in the early testers group or did you luck out and get it with them? Exciting stuff
Definitely way better than I expected. True testament to what Tesla has accomplished. No other entity can even come close to FSD. Also this is available for $100 a month. Personal chauffeur for 100. 😂😂
Looks like fun! Once FSD learns how to drive well in these conditions, lots of people will be much safer! There's always lots of accidents after a snowfall.
@@DerekDavis213 _FSD cannot drive safely (and all alone) in a busy big city. Human intervention is required._ Depends on the city. In areas where there is a sufficient concentration of Teslas for the NN to be fully trained, this is what I like to call *FALSE.* The least research will shown scores of YT videos in Los Angeles and the SF Bay area, some hours long, with no human intervention. And in San Diego, FSD has been driving me around for several weeks now on v12.5.6.x in a 2024 HW4 Model Y, completely hands-free, with only 2-3 disengagements-all of which were navigation issues, which FSD worked out by rerouting to get to the set destination. It's like being driven around by a professional chauffeur, with my hands in my lap or on the armrests. It even does limousine stops at every stop, a skill I've tried unsuccessfully to master. _FSD in snowy conditions? That is decades away at best._ What an absurd claim, for which you have absolutely no basis. Your fatuous assertions are becoming more and more irrelevant, as FSD gets closer to release of V13 and FSD (Unsupervised).
@@GlenLittle95 The current design of FSD is flawed, and will never behave like human eyes with a human brain. FSD is nothing like a human being that can drive every day for years without any incidents. It's been about 11 months now of AI + neural nets training, and the v12 software is still buggy and not worthy of trust. Elan said that the 30 day free trial of FSD would bring in tons of new training data. But that made little difference. And now, Elan says there will be 10 billion (yes, billion with a B) android robots in people's homes within 15 short years. He is clearly usinng some very good weed, or else intentionally spewing nonsense to the public?
Thank you very much for the informative video! As a Japanese person living in Japan, I cannot try FSD myself. I believe it’s crucial to see how FSD performs under challenging conditions like snowy roads, so your video was very helpful!
Your welcome I'm lucky to live in this climate to be able to test fsd in these conditions. Sharing my experience with the world brings me alot of joy. Glad you liked it
Drove for the first time in snow like this today on the highway and it did ok. Not great, but good enough. The only complaint I have is the following distance is just a tad too close considering the conditions.
@@DerekDavis213 _Robo taxi is years late and nowhere to be seen._ Completely irrelevant to a video on FSD. _Meanwhile, Waymo is in business and giving many people rides every day._ Waymo is giving rides every day, in a few thousand square miles, on precision-mapped streets, at urban speeds, in cars costing triple what Teslas do. Meanwhile, FSD is giving >400,000 people rides every day, in >7 million square miles of the US and Canada, on any street, road or highway, mapped or not, paved or not, at speeds up to 85 MPH, and has driven nearly 100 times as far as Waymo, with an astonishing record of safety. Please tell me in what bizarre world Waymo is somehow better than FSD? Oh, you're going to tell me about 17,000 miles between disengagements. Yeah, you can show great statistics if everyone else counts incidents where the ADS or ADAS is actually disengaged, while Waymo only reports when a car is stuck somewhere and has to be physically retrieved-which is what I like to call *CHEATING.*
@@DerekDavis213 Not entirely true, as Tesla is using a different business model. There are Waymos in a handful of cities, while there are Tesla's across the US and Canada that can do supervised hands free driving (in good weather...i.e. the only places that Waymo operates) with approx 25000 miles between truly critical disengagments. Tesla will spool up significantly faster then Waymo in the southern US states. RT supervised rides with start early next year and most like driverless rides in some locations by EoY.
@@dankarau2307 _Tesla will spool up significantly faster then Waymo_ Don't bet on that. One thing we have learned by now: Tesla timetables and predictions are not to be relied upon. For example, Elon said there would be 1 million Robotaxis on the road by year 2020. Elon said the Semi Truck would change the world of trucking. That was years ago. Today, 99 percent of trucks are still diesel, while Pepsi-Cola uses a small number of Tesla Semis.
This is super interesting to watch/follow. And I'm still sour at Tesla that I haven't gotten the smooth visualizations update yet lol (I think?).. oh and yeah no FSD in Norway either. :P
@@TeslaColdEnvy Autopark has been available for years wih the previous cars, and ASS still requires you to be like 3 meters from the car for it to work.
@teslacoldenvy I'm fascinated that you drive with bare arms. I don't live in snow territory, but when it's cold outside, I'm wearing my outerwear in the car. Thanks for your videos!
Thanks bderoes for your comment! Much appreciated. I mostly have long sleeve for shirts and such. This was the weekend and was headed out for a drive only. Tesla stays warm very well 👌
when you need speed, put it in standard acceleration & ijmn hurry mode in fsd, so you will not have to disengage, also, if you tab accelerator, fsd will not disangage.
Hi thanks for your comment! Glad you watched the video and enjoyed it. It was clean for sure I would have noticed when backing out the driveway for the drive. I keep soapy water spray in my car and clean the camera lense if it's dirty.
Will FSD reliance on a lead vehicle become dangerous when the lead is also FSD (UNsupervised), and that car has no human-driven lead? Heck, does the current FSD override foolish lead car behavior? Today I got a chime for exceeding the (reduced) speed limit in a construction zone on the freeway - all the cars around me were speeding too. I'm glad I wasn't in the lane adjacent to the construction crew.
@@TeslaColdEnvy FSD chimed again today when it read the temporary 55 mph signs on the freeway in the construction zone, and we were all going faster. No workers were present on this weekend day.
@@TeslaColdEnvy Probably. I wasn't complaining about the chime. I was drawing the parallel that FSD did NOT slow down to obey the new limit; it kept doing what the other cars were doing. So "follow the leader/group" is not a perfect idea. On the other hand, suddenly slowing down because of the sign would be dangerous when surrounded by lots of other cars that ignore the sign.
FSD driving in the snow is not a must for it to be acceptable. Most people don't know how to drive in the snow or icy roads. So FSD won't work during a snow storm and you have to wait for the roads to be plowed, that just sounds like good common sense to me.
Uh yes it is a must if they want to reach autonomy. Roads don't get plowed down to the asphalt where I live, there's gonna be packed snow on the road all winter.
It absolutely is a must, it's not really FSD then is it? Or is this supposed have small print that says it's for sunny 80F days only? People would like to use this outside of California as well. Currently this looks completely useless and just dangerous.
Thanks for the video! To me, it looks just as bad as the previous major version of FSD from last year. It has absolutely no clue how to deal with these conditions. It does every basic thing wrong and should disable itself when it detects this kind of conditions instead of continuing to allow you to use it.
Thanks for your comment and watching! I'm glad you liked it more videos to come. My videos are honest and transparent and viewers are free to interpret based on what they see. I try hard to bring accross the "feeling" and experience to help. 💪
@TeslaColdEnvy you did a great job in this one! If I were a passenger with a driver doing what FSD was doing, I'd force them to exit and switch with me or I'd take a cab the rest of the way if they didn't accept that. This was not a tough winter driving scenario, it was pretty standard.
It's not for the faint hearted... Also as I mentioned once in the video even if a human is driving I would be on the edge of my seat. My wife similarly when we have tod rice in these conditions. Best thing is to stay home, but my curiosity always gets the best of me.
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Thanks for posting this. I’ve found few videos of snowy FSD driving. The car is trying hard, but there’s still some improvement needed to be a low-stress unsupervised ride for passengers.
Tesla team: increase the following distance when in Chill mode. This is too close, especially on a snowy highway.
Agree follow distance needs adjustments
You are a braver man than I. Thanks for showing us the state of the technology!
You'll love v13 man I did a short road trip of 207 miles totally on fsd, it dodged a runaway tire on the road very smoothly i was mind blown, i wish i had my cameras on, I'm not a content creator so, i just use fsd for fun. Believe me y'all will be mind blown, I even tested it with a fake mask which has an eyeball and I could trick the vehicle which is a problem but honestly I felt asleep for about 30 minutes and when I woke up, I was still on the way comfortable maneuvering in traffic smoothly, i didn't have anyone in the car with me though, but i really wish to see y'all reaction when you finally get this, I was mind blown words can't explain.
Thanks soo much for your comment! Yes I'm soo very excited to test it! Can't wait till it rolls out wide and we get it here in Canada. Did you get lucky enough to be in the early testers group or did you luck out and get it with them? Exciting stuff
Definitely way better than I expected. True testament to what Tesla has accomplished. No other entity can even come close to FSD. Also this is available for $100 a month. Personal chauffeur for 100. 😂😂
Indeed it's unbelievable how far and well it has become! 👏 Good job tesla vision team
Been waiting for a FSD winterly conditions test.
It‘s doing a lot better than I expected. But still a bit to learn for the system.
Thanks for your comment Karla! I make alot of videos
Looks like fun! Once FSD learns how to drive well in these conditions, lots of people will be much safer! There's always lots of accidents after a snowfall.
Indeed thanks for watching Glen! Stay warm
FSD cannot drive safely (and all alone) in a busy big city. Human intervention is required.
FSD in snowy conditions? That is decades away at best.
@@DerekDavis213 _FSD cannot drive safely (and all alone) in a busy big city. Human intervention is required._
Depends on the city. In areas where there is a sufficient concentration of Teslas for the NN to be fully trained, this is what I like to call *FALSE.* The least research will shown scores of YT videos in Los Angeles and the SF Bay area, some hours long, with no human intervention. And in San Diego, FSD has been driving me around for several weeks now on v12.5.6.x in a 2024 HW4 Model Y, completely hands-free, with only 2-3 disengagements-all of which were navigation issues, which FSD worked out by rerouting to get to the set destination. It's like being driven around by a professional chauffeur, with my hands in my lap or on the armrests. It even does limousine stops at every stop, a skill I've tried unsuccessfully to master.
_FSD in snowy conditions? That is decades away at best._
What an absurd claim, for which you have absolutely no basis. Your fatuous assertions are becoming more and more irrelevant, as FSD gets closer to release of V13 and FSD (Unsupervised).
@@DerekDavis213 Guess we'll have to check back in 20 years!
@@GlenLittle95 The current design of FSD is flawed, and will never behave like human eyes with a human brain.
FSD is nothing like a human being that can drive every day for years without any incidents. It's been about 11 months now of AI + neural nets training, and the v12 software is still buggy and not worthy of trust. Elan said that the 30 day free trial of FSD would bring in tons of new training data. But that made little difference.
And now, Elan says there will be 10 billion (yes, billion with a B) android robots in people's homes within 15 short years. He is clearly usinng some very good weed, or else intentionally spewing nonsense to the public?
Thank you very much for the informative video! As a Japanese person living in Japan, I cannot try FSD myself. I believe it’s crucial to see how FSD performs under challenging conditions like snowy roads, so your video was very helpful!
Thanks soo much Ken! Appreciate your comment and thanks for sharing my clips on your channel 🤗
Thx. I think this was extremely valuable. Not as much for driving in snow, but more for seeing the problem solving engine hard at work
Your welcome I'm lucky to live in this climate to be able to test fsd in these conditions. Sharing my experience with the world brings me alot of joy. Glad you liked it
Drove for the first time in snow like this today on the highway and it did ok. Not great, but good enough. The only complaint I have is the following distance is just a tad too close considering the conditions.
Thanks for sharing! I agree about the follow distance
Now imagine having no steering wheel or brake peddles! Robotaxi is a ways off for true winter conditions. I'm hopeful, but it will be a wait.
Robo taxi is years late and nowhere to be seen. Meanwhile, Waymo is in business and giving many people rides every day.
@@DerekDavis213 _Robo taxi is years late and nowhere to be seen._
Completely irrelevant to a video on FSD.
_Meanwhile, Waymo is in business and giving many people rides every day._
Waymo is giving rides every day, in a few thousand square miles, on precision-mapped streets, at urban speeds, in cars costing triple what Teslas do. Meanwhile, FSD is giving >400,000 people rides every day, in >7 million square miles of the US and Canada, on any street, road or highway, mapped or not, paved or not, at speeds up to 85 MPH, and has driven nearly 100 times as far as Waymo, with an astonishing record of safety.
Please tell me in what bizarre world Waymo is somehow better than FSD? Oh, you're going to tell me about 17,000 miles between disengagements. Yeah, you can show great statistics if everyone else counts incidents where the ADS or ADAS is actually disengaged, while Waymo only reports when a car is stuck somewhere and has to be physically retrieved-which is what I like to call *CHEATING.*
@@DerekDavis213 Not entirely true, as Tesla is using a different business model. There are Waymos in a handful of cities, while there are Tesla's across the US and Canada that can do supervised hands free driving (in good weather...i.e. the only places that Waymo operates) with approx 25000 miles between truly critical disengagments. Tesla will spool up significantly faster then Waymo in the southern US states. RT supervised rides with start early next year and most like driverless rides in some locations by EoY.
Good point Dan I think that's bound to happen
@@dankarau2307 _Tesla will spool up significantly faster then Waymo_
Don't bet on that. One thing we have learned by now: Tesla timetables and predictions are not to be relied upon. For example, Elon said there would be 1 million Robotaxis on the road by year 2020.
Elon said the Semi Truck would change the world of trucking. That was years ago. Today, 99 percent of trucks are still diesel, while Pepsi-Cola uses a small number of Tesla Semis.
i think this is high-valued data for tesla team, if you record the Disengagement voice note, it would be super helpful for them
Yea I kinda started getting lazy in those will start making it a habit
This is super interesting to watch/follow.
And I'm still sour at Tesla that I haven't gotten the smooth visualizations update yet lol (I think?).. oh and yeah no FSD in Norway either. :P
Hope you guys in Europe get it soon. Heard you guys got autopark and actually smart summon just recently!
@@TeslaColdEnvy Autopark has been available for years wih the previous cars, and ASS still requires you to be like 3 meters from the car for it to work.
@teslacoldenvy
I'm fascinated that you drive with bare arms.
I don't live in snow territory, but when it's cold outside, I'm wearing my outerwear in the car.
Thanks for your videos!
Thanks bderoes for your comment! Much appreciated. I mostly have long sleeve for shirts and such. This was the weekend and was headed out for a drive only. Tesla stays warm very well 👌
when you need speed, put it in standard acceleration & ijmn hurry mode in fsd, so you will not have to disengage, also, if you tab accelerator, fsd will not disangage.
The new speed profiles are amazing
What are the flashing red lights above the rearview mirror? Maybe the attention monitoring camera has infrared illumination??
Yes those are infrared blasted I assume for lowlights condition s
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Thanks for your kind comment!
You are very brave. Do you have HW3 or HW4? HW4 has infrared cameras.
I have both but this is hw4 test on the new highway stack in snow
Did you clean the camera first and this accumulated over the drive. Or was it never cleaned before the drive?
Hi thanks for your comment! Glad you watched the video and enjoyed it. It was clean for sure I would have noticed when backing out the driveway for the drive. I keep soapy water spray in my car and clean the camera lense if it's dirty.
Thx for this
82mph on snow covered roads is insane
ok, i see kmph. still 55 on snow is fast
It is fast I agree I should be more careful
It's common. Just use proper tires.
Yeah, 80km/h is nothing. Here in Sweden we often drive even faster in similar conditions. Proper tires and common sense will make it safe!
@jockearnold exactly I mean you won't be able to get anywhere with slow speed. You guys have big distances also like us.
Is the car HW3 with AMD or with Intel MCU ?
This is a hw4 with amd ryzen thanks for the question 👍
Will FSD reliance on a lead vehicle become dangerous when the lead is also FSD (UNsupervised), and that car has no human-driven lead?
Heck, does the current FSD override foolish lead car behavior? Today I got a chime for exceeding the (reduced) speed limit in a construction zone on the freeway - all the cars around me were speeding too. I'm glad I wasn't in the lane adjacent to the construction crew.
Not sure that seems like a weird scenario. Did you get the chime on eap or fsd? Thanks
In the video it doesn’t seem to really follow a lead car, it’s offset to right side.
@@TeslaColdEnvy FSD chimed again today when it read the temporary 55 mph signs on the freeway in the construction zone, and we were all going faster. No workers were present on this weekend day.
@bderoes2731 wouldnt the speed limit hold even if no one is working?
@@TeslaColdEnvy Probably. I wasn't complaining about the chime. I was drawing the parallel that FSD did NOT slow down to obey the new limit; it kept doing what the other cars were doing. So "follow the leader/group" is not a perfect idea.
On the other hand, suddenly slowing down because of the sign would be dangerous when surrounded by lots of other cars that ignore the sign.
FSD driving in the snow is not a must for it to be acceptable. Most people don't know how to drive in the snow or icy roads. So FSD won't work during a snow storm and you have to wait for the roads to be plowed, that just sounds like good common sense to me.
Uh yes it is a must if they want to reach autonomy. Roads don't get plowed down to the asphalt where I live, there's gonna be packed snow on the road all winter.
It absolutely is a must, it's not really FSD then is it? Or is this supposed have small print that says it's for sunny 80F days only? People would like to use this outside of California as well. Currently this looks completely useless and just dangerous.
Fsd, so close yet so far
@tonymcflattie2450 Not far at all. Waymo is already doing it and their system has more limitations than Tesla's FSD.
@@didier_777 Waymo is completely different system.
Do you have snow tires for this drive?
Yes 💪 I swap out to winters every season. Michlen x ice
this is the last boss
Hahaha it felt like it 🤣 many disengagements... If it did this smoothly I would have been really shocked
It's much, much harder to drive at night when it's snowing heavily.
Thanks for the video! To me, it looks just as bad as the previous major version of FSD from last year. It has absolutely no clue how to deal with these conditions. It does every basic thing wrong and should disable itself when it detects this kind of conditions instead of continuing to allow you to use it.
Thanks for your comment and watching! I'm glad you liked it more videos to come. My videos are honest and transparent and viewers are free to interpret based on what they see. I try hard to bring accross the "feeling" and experience to help. 💪
@TeslaColdEnvy you did a great job in this one! If I were a passenger with a driver doing what FSD was doing, I'd force them to exit and switch with me or I'd take a cab the rest of the way if they didn't accept that. This was not a tough winter driving scenario, it was pretty standard.
It's not for the faint hearted... Also as I mentioned once in the video even if a human is driving I would be on the edge of my seat. My wife similarly when we have tod rice in these conditions. Best thing is to stay home, but my curiosity always gets the best of me.
Do you think AI is going to be able to figure this out…?
It's headed towards the right way... The new highways stack is way better than older one. But still needs adjustments and more training data
Sometimes is better just to stay home and not risk an accident.
Indeed
Stay at home just because of snow? Huh?
Haha, that would bankrupt the whole northern Europe.
@@abbcc555 Some people genuinely don't understand how the rest of the world functions.
Oh my god this is difficult to watch. I hoped it would be so much better. This truly is a California gimmick for now.