I like how GG kidnapped Spidey like in the late afternoon and then had to wait for him to wake up. I wonder how many times Peter started to stir and Goblin started his monologue before he realized Peter was still asleep, and just had to sit around waiting
"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you." Never realized until re-watching the movie that the Goblin is projecting his own betrayal onto Peter. Norman started Oscorp and did great things for the company and his associates, and in the end, they all stabbed him in the back and tossed him aside like he was nothing.
@@Bat-talk Exactly Jameson was just protecting his own money not Peter. If he actually cared for him he would have payed him more for his pictures also why he would have risked his life just to save Peter here? I mean they just met in this movie.
@@the_sam_strong lemme guess according to you all CEO's or high level managers are heartless greedy people.You've been watching too much Hollywood, and to less living in the real world.
It doesn't do anything. If spiderman was miles morales or anyone else that is not related to him he wouldn't know anyway. In the Justice Leaguge animated where Lex get in the body of Flash and he instantly unmask himself to see who is Flash and he just cannot figure it out as Wally has nothing to do with Lex and they never meet before
@@naka4214 If he didn't care, he would just see who he is in case spiderman refused his offer. But instead, he respects spiderman by not unmasking him in hopes of making an alligence.
Green Goblin was a nicer dude compared to his other villains. He offered Peter a good job and gave Spiderman the choice to team up when he could've killed him in his sleep. Goblin was a fun guy
In Spiderman Homecoming, Michael Keaton did the same thing, like to stay outta his business only because he saved his daughter but it wasn't as good as William Dafoe though
2:20 - The way Goblin just playfully slaps Spidey and leans on the roof like he's just chilling with his friend is absolutely hilarious. Like, imagine two arch nemeses talking to each other like this.
@@trivonnereid8877 I thought of Batman and Joker when I watched this scene and I wondered why and then it hit me. Heath Ledger sort of told Christian Bale the same exact thing in the prison interrogation scene in The Dark Knight.
"Or we can cause the deaths of thousands as we selfishly battle again and again and again and AGAIN! Is that what you want?" The entirety of the most legendary comic rivalries in a single take.
@@zoxyy.1x No I said what I quoted, I may have forgotten that part but what I posted was the lesson I was bringing up from this underappreciated quote that reflects the part of every famous fictional rivalry that too many people take for granted.
You know, this is my favorite scene in all three of Rami's spider man movies. Everything from JJ lying to protect Peter to the Goblin's speech... simply magnificent.
While Spider-man was selling papers, the Bugle was doing fine before Spider-man photos. I really do think he knew the Goblin wasn't going to talk to the photographer in a polite way. The Goblin already killed a few people.
Neoblackdragon Actually, Green Goblin wouldn't kill Peter as Peter was the only one who could lead him to Spider Man. However, Green Goblin wouldn't ask Peter nicely as you have mentioned
I watched an interview of Willem Defoe, he said he fought to get this part, because back then, making movies from comics wasn’t all that big yet, and people were questioning on him why he chose this role, he said it was different and it ended up being fun to do. Happy Willem Defoe had fun making it ❤️
When comicbook movies as a genre were still just a small demographic in a wider variety of movie genres. Mainstream marvel movies really took off after the original blade and xmen movies. Dafoe committed to the film because he knew it would be a box office smash. He knew he was part of something prestigious. From the public’s perspective 2002 was a year in which superheroes had very little stakes in the blockbuster territory but people working inside Hollywood could see the rise and potential of this genre. Twenty years later and comicbook films have dominated the cinematic landscape. Some would say that the market is oversaturated.
“You n’ me, we’re exceptional…” The delivery of that line is chilling. Great way to get across his philosophy. People admire and raise up those who are unique and powerful, there’s nobody else as unique and powerful as them so why shouldn’t they be on top. Great scene!
@@andrewdoriani617 you can sell oppression as something "liberating" to the simpleminded. Look how many college kids went from defending Israel to hating on it in just a couple years , because bloggers solds them the idea that Palestine is a tiny poor country that has never done anything to its neighbors
@@Dan_KanervaThat is so true, a lot of people, especially well “educated” people have beliefs that they don’t know the basis, nor the origin of. A lot of people believe whatever is most popular, because they do not want to feel indifferent, they have no insensitive for Independent thought.
@@Dan_KanervaI don't know anyone who believes what you're claiming, I only know of people who think murdering citizens is wrong no matter who it is that's doing it or who those citizens are.
when I was a kid I never understood why Jameson was saying " I don't know who he is his stuff comes in the mail". Now I realize, he is trying to protect Peter
Only for selfish reasons he’s protecting Peter. If he sold him out, then he would lose his source of income from someone who can take photos from otherwise impossible angles.
Joker: "In their final moments, people show you who they really are." Jameson when threatened by GG: "I don't know who he is, his stuff comes in the mail!"
Green Goblin nicely sums up how battle with superheroes and supervillains go, and he makes it clear he doesn't care if the battles end with him dead as long as he has his fun.
Not really, that’s the Joker. Green Goblin wants power and he’ll kill anyone who gets in his way. The point he was making was that fighting until they both die, because he won’t stop until victorious, is pointless compared them joining forces to achieve his goals. He reveals his secret identity and makes a sympathy play JUST to confuse Peter and stab him in the back in the final fight because Peter beat him physically and likely might’ve killed him.
@@danielwood6833 I was thinking about his speech in light of what we saw of him in No Way Home. Plus in this movie we don't see the Green Goblin has much of goal beyond being evil, his actions at the climax have no purpose beyond making Spider Man suffer.
@@dragonstormx true but that’s because he’s petty like that, plus the power trip he’d gain from making the only possible equal he has die layer by layer. When he pretty much goads the MCU Spidey to kill him that was either a ‘lost the battle but win the war’ move, or just inconsistent writing.
@@danielwood6833 I wouldn't call that inconsistent writing. Green Goblin in No Way Home knew he would die if he was returned to his universe, so he decided to have as much fun as possible before kicking the bucket.
This scene legitimately made me realize as a kid we were in a different age of Superhero movies. The hero and villain having a legitimate, drama filled conversation on the rooftops straight out of the comics. Played dead serious even though they're in these over the top costumes.
Spider man 1 awesome, 2002 Spider man 2 best spider film Spiderman 3 Awful 2007 The first two movies were great just because 1 movie not performed as it should be , 5 yrs of spiderman's fan base broken, in spite everything spiderman og give eventually they hated him for 1 or 2 reason
I remember hearing Snyder say, "you can't have a serious conversation between two people wearing silly comic book costumes" This scene right here proves that you can.
Snyder's an edgelord who thinks characters who are permanently miserable for no reason and pretentious religious symbolism comparing them to gods is character depth so best not to listen to him.
Snyder is an unintelligent failure who ruined an entire universe especially two comic heroes who were the easiest to make movies on. The guy doesn't know a thing about movie making except shoe horning characters and fight scenes without a nn context.
@@Xehanort10 the worst mistake WB did was hiring that director who shredded DC to ruins. His fans are even worse. Illiterate folks think he makes some masterpieces.
There’s multiple levels to it I find because if the goblin gets Peter, JJ won’t get any more Spider-Man pictures. So ultimately still greed-motivated, but also nice JJ protected him.
@@demonkingofvalor8162 J.J. didn't try to protect his money. He tried to protect Peter. He doesn't give a crap about his money if he is about to get the snot beat out of him. He worried that Pete might get hurt. You can also see J help Peter in the comics.
when i was a kid, i was like, man this scene is fucking boring, fight already, but now years later as adult, im fascinated with this scene. goblin makes a good point.
Same, I've been rewatching the Raimi trilogy and I've learned to appreciate the small moments like these. Uncle Ben's talk, this conversation, Doc Ock's conversation about intelligence, even the small interactions with Ursula, especially the cake scene. It's brilliant
William DeFoe played that Green Goblin character so well. His voice is so perfect for the character. I had to laugh when he smacked Spider-Man on the head😂
Po:"You finally met your match,(Dramatically)Chameleon."(The Chameleon's eyes glow into Aquamarine, and she begins to grow.)Chameleon:"1:47"(The Chameleon transforms into Po, but with sharp Teeth, Reptile-like Aquamarine Eyes, and Spikes and Scales on the body.)Chameleon(Like Po)(Deep voice):' *SKADOOSH!!!* 'Po:"Stand back! I'm gonna kick. my. Butt!"
As a kid I didn’t understand one bit of Goblin’s speech. Now as an adult, it really resonates with me. Growing up kinda sucks, but understanding stuff like this is pretty awesome
Shit for me to this day I can quote every line. Not sure why but sometimes it’ll randomly pop in my head. I’ll randomly be quoting it. Must’ve been my favorite scene as a kid 🤷♂️
@Sharty Waffles no dude, he was referencing JJ Jameson's appearance in No Way Home. Same actor, but the hair was goofed up down the middle. The joke is Jameson says he trusted his barber to cut his hair nicely, who is probably the reason why 20 years later his hair got so badly screwed up in NWH
@@str2010 wtf? his hair is not goofed up because of a bad haircut. he just has male pattern baldness. your comment is the definition of confidently incorrect lmao
he's actually right about Spider Man being the villain, Spider Man is a vigilante who takes justice in his own hands, sure he doesn't really harm anyone but who's there to restrict him if he decides to hunt for bigger criminals and more controversial ones?
@@RagnarLoudpak controversies and unclear evidence, l'm not talking about bank robbers I'm talking stuff like a mafia boss, corrupt government officals, stuff like that, there's a reason why laws exist
Yeah, I like that after their first confrontation, knowing that spiderman is a potential threat to whatever plan the Green Goblin has, his approach is to try and work with him rather than trying to kill him, and it's only after getting rejected that he focuses on killing spiderman and making him suffer as much as possible in the process.
"In spite of everything you've done for them... eventually they will hate you... why bother?" ^ The most "real" thing I've ever heard a movie villain say.
Thats why i hate marvel movies nowadays thier for big cgi movie bucks not for true good old classic hero saving ppl while the vilian stalks the hero or someshit i hope marvel does a zombie movie one day bc theres a comic where all the heroes and villians turn into zombies its cool asf the last surviviors were iron man and his assistant i think idk i haven't read the comic in a while
@@imposterblockade1826 ok good point and agree it feel like the Marvel aren't even trying well they are trying but by using CGI it feel lazy as hell tbh
"There are 8 million people in this city, and those teeming masses exist for the sole purpose of lifting the few exceptional people onto their shoulders." That's the truth about the majority of the world's population too... 😵
I always loved how in the Rami trilogy, Spider-Man and his villains had very comic booky moments like with how over the top the Green Goblin was at times, but also had these very human elements blended into their scenes. It adds so many layers to the Goblin's character and makes some people wonder whether if he's really a mad lunatic or a genius who's outlook on life is very warped. Green Goblin's so crazy that he sings when he's destroying and hurting people, yet at the same time also gives compelling arguments that make the audience question whether he's right and Spider-Man is wrong to try to keep being a hero.
Although Green Goblin’s ulterior motives for wanting Spider-Man as a partner were not revealed, it’s likely he desired power since Spidey is the only one who can stop him.
While Goblin knows that Spidey is the only one who can stop him, he gives Spidey the choice of joining him willingly. In their next fight, Spidey makes it clear he refuses and Goblin comes to the conclusion Spidey must be eliminated if he cannot be turned to the dark side and continues to stand in his way.
I never understood the weight of this conversation as a child. As a young man now I see how valid some of his points are. And it kills me to know that the bad guys always have some pretty damn good points
@@joseguevara3269 It's the way it is! I mean, in the 50's people were having babies marrying and getting their lifelong jobs at 20. Now some of us get to choose what to do with our 20's. That's good and bad, because people extend that to their late 30's
I’ve always respect to the fact that JJ never sold Peter out. Y’all have to understand that JJ is actually a good guy He truly believes all the crap that comes from his mouth.
I always thought it was because Jameson’s a shrewd businessman and Parker is a freelance photographer who works for essentially peanuts. If Jameson had told Goblin who takes Spider-Man’s pictures, he’d have to hire another photographer who’ll want a decent enough salary which is Jameson’s worst nightmare. But that’s just my personal opinion.
i just realized that he does this! very interesting. i'm wondering if he is genuinely protecting peter or only protecting him because he provides the photos.
“I’ve watched you from deep behind Norman’s cowardly eyes; struggling to have everything you want, while the world tries to make you choose. Gods don’t have to choose. We take!”
Although I'm totally hyped to see Green Goblin and William Defoe return, I have NO idea how they'll go about it since he literally dies in the first movie and Sandman as well as Doc Oc from the same universe also are going to be in the movie.
“In spite of everything you’ve done for them, eventually they will hate you.” Love this quote, and it even speaks for today’s standards and I so can’t wait to see No Way Home, tomorrow🕷🕸
I love how Goblin goes through all this trouble just to ask who takes the pictures of Spiderman when he could simply walk down the street, buy a newspaper and see the words "photo by Peter Parker" right under any picture of Spiderman.
Unless i missed it somewhere in the movie, i find it unlikely The Bugle, more specifically, JJ, would give the photographer any credit for the shots given how he pays for the pictures and immediately gives em the boot
@@Karma-pq9fi yup. I'd send you a picture if I could. But on one of the papers when there is a close up on the picture in the paper, if you pause it and zoom, you'll see "ter Parker" the name will be cut off because of how the camera catches it but I'm sure we can all agree that's Peter Parker
I agree he was a great Goblin, did just about all of his own stunts too. He's a very athletic man. knows several forms of martial arts and is a great actor,in all of his movies. I loved him in John Wick and in the movie The Florida project. He really knows how to draw you into the movies.
The green goblin spitting facts 💯💯 1:58 i can relate to him. No matter how good you treat people they will eventually turn against you and still do you wrong so damn true 💯 i understood that fact as a kid early
Legit. One of my favourite character moments for Jameson in this series. Despite the fact he acts, and let’s face it, is super greedy and self centred, REFUSED to tell Green Goblin jack, when all he has to do it point to Peter and say “that’s him! That’s the photographer!”. Peters just a kid, and at the end of the day Jameson wouldn’t throw a kid in front of a bus if it meant saving his own life. Gotta respect it ✊.
@@appendixlessloser4806 You serious? Joker is chaos for the sake of chaos, Goblin is greedy and narcissistic, everything he does is for his own good or his ego.
@@maxhydekyle2425 What I meant was their characters seem very similar to me. Maybe it's because I don't read Spider-man comics, but I always viewed Goblin as an insane maniac out to emotionally hurt Spider-Man, kinda like how the Joker tries to emotionally hurt others. They even look similar! Their facial expressions, their mannerisms, their ways of doing things just seem very similar to me, and if you don't agree that's totally fine. I don't care. I just think that they both are similar, insane maniacs. That is all.
I mean it hits harder in this movie itself. Mysterio had to fake an entire attack and blame it on Peter in order for people to lose hope in him. Tobey's spidey was just doing what he could to help, but because of a small rumour everyone hated him.
This is Obviously the only relevant Outfit. The comic book goblin looks like a one shot NPC, like just an average goblin, the Not badass clishee Goblin we know from Fairy Stories.
JK Simmons will always be the one and only Jameson to me, he looks and feels like he was pulled from the comic books / cartoons and brought to life on the screen.
"The one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you." One of the best and truest quotes to date. Can apply to all super hero movies as of 2019.
Just saying...it was day when Goblin gassed Spiderman to sleep. It's night when the conversation happens. I can just imagine Goblin walking about the rooftop, staring at the people and the city, thinking up his little speech. Maybe stops to smoke a cigarette or two. I can see him walking over and flicking Spiderman on the cheek, telling him to wake up, before just being like "...shit. Well, I guess I could order a pizza or something...", and just sitting there having a little pizza party to himself. Then he hears Spiderman groan as he's starting to come awake, and Goblin quickly finishes up his slice and chucks the box off the roof.
I've always and still enjoy William Dafoe's portrayal of the Green Goblin in this movie, especially in his tone of voice, it sounds menacing and delivers some great dialogue and monologuing and this scene proves it
Gaming Minds of Awesomeness I think Gary Oldman could play Norman Osborn in the MCU. I can't unheard Gary Oldman whenever Green Goblin speaks here, especially when he said "WHO'S THE PHOTOGRAPHER TAKING THE PICTURE OF SPIDER-MAN?"
Right?! As a kid I loved it. He was awesome and it made the movie so much better. Good villains like this make a good superhero movies. Time to bring this kind of green goblin back in action.
He had a type of mutual respect for Spiderman because he viewed him as exceptional. He wanted to remove him from the equation if possible but he have respect for spideys power. Its a great dynamic
I think for Goblin, at that time it doesn't matter who Spider-man really was, if was a random guy that he never see before? It really doesn't make the difference for him. Lucky for Peter, but Norman finds out the truth later on, so...
"in spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you." You can ask the Incredibles You can ask the avengers You can ask Superman
The most terrifying villains are NOT the ones who look scary or laugh menacingly. The most terrifying villains are the ones where you realize they are partially right in their assessment of our world (but have chosen the completely wrong way to remedy it)! When our society goes awry, it can produce countless monsters of the worst kind.
@@jeremygonzalez9270 The Day The Earth Stood Still is a powerful example of this. Humans hurt Klaatu because they fear him (and can't control him), but then when he calls out their destructive ambitions, their fear turns into utter hatred. Only one family and a group of scientists will listen to the alien before militaries force him to leave Earth (the only peaceful option he's basically given).
the analogy between goblin’s proposal in Spider-man and Joker’s speech during interrogation in the Dark knight is evident, both dialogues reveal to be not so wrong after all, that does the spectator think, “you and I are not so different” and “you complete me” are the perfect representation of the hero/villain relationship, they do have more in common than what it seems.
Well that was the dynamic. Both had been gifted extraordinary powers but how they used them is what defined them. Norman used his power for his own selfish reasons. Peter used his to help those who could not. And yet it goes deeper than that. Norman by his nature is a jaded individual who only sees the worst in people. A philosophy he points out to Harry during Thanksgiving because that's what he's been surrounded with. People who only want to exploit him and toss him aside when no longer useful hence his line to Peter telling him that the city will eventually hate him and root for his downfall. That's what separates Norman from Peter.
@@muigokublack6487 agree, they all had struggles in their life and then something happened (powers discovering), it’s the way they act the difference, the outcome of it, which defines and separates good from evil. (either for Spider-man and Batman movies)
I love the depth behind JJJ's character in this scene. At first, you'd think he's just a scumbag tabloid executive that's only willing to twist the truth every time he speaks, for his own gain. But here, he twisted the truth not for himself, but for Peter's safety. He had nothing to gain from lying to Goblin like this. He easily could have said it was Peter, or he could have thrown the name of his least favorite employee. But no, he went with the extremely directionless answer of "I don't know who he is."
@@notoriousblt1038 Sounds rather cynical, but you have a point. At the same time, JJJ doesn’t hate Peter like he hates Spiderman, so I wouldn’t be so quick to throw the “soullessly pragmatic” card just yet.
@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight well yeah but when some psycho is holding u by the throat and likely going to kill u then money probably ain’t on his mind at the moment
It goes further in Spider-Man 3 when Peter exposed Brock’s photo as a fake, and he prints a retraction and fires Brock instead of running with the false story because it’s interesting.
@@jeremytewari3346 How It Should Have Ended. Goblin: I could have squashed you like a bug right now. But I am offering you a choice. Join me... At that moment the Punisher shows up. Frank: One badge. Two badge. Penny and dime. Because here... I ... come! Goblin: Wo are you? Frank does not answer and he is preparing the weapons. Goblin: Spider-Man, do you know this guy? Spider-Man faintly: I... I.... I don't know. Frank: Goodbye, asshole. And then he shoots and kills the Green Goblin.
Spider-Man 1: "Join me, imagine what we could accomplish together..." Spider-Man 3: *Spider-Man and Goblin together were able to defeat Venom AND Sandman* I guess Green Goblin had a point
OP Malfit It's called being redundant for the sake of cheesiness. There is dumb redundancy and then there are those that are just to make yourself look like a cheesy ass.
I love Jamison's face when he says "I trust my barber" and then it cuts to Peter and neither of them say a word for a sec, Peter's probably thinking "okay the problem with you is you trust the WRONG people" lol
Well you do need to trust your barber to not mess up your hair lol. As one dude said, “there’s two people who don’t mess with: your cook and your barber”.
I wish I got to experience new york in the 90's and early 2000's it seemed fun. I was 8 when I visited new york in 2008, it was nice but this definitely seemed like peak new york
"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you." - Green Goblin Damn, did that line made more sense in the new teaser trailer of Spider-man: No Way Home. Also, it applies in real life. After all the good things you've done, people will still point out the bad thing you've done. Even if the bad thing you did is true or not. People live to see controversies and issues to add spice to their lives. Which is a very sad attribute to us humans.
@@qwertyki9367 It's just like what my grandpa told me before, "Give someone a clean paper with a little dot of ink in the middle and they will notice the dot more than paper itself."
Napoleon said something similar to someone who said that the people loved him and were happy to see him, he responded by saying “They would be happy to see me hang too.”
Green Goblin predicted what’s gonna happen in the spider no way home movie “In spite of everything you’ve done for them, eventually they will hate you.”
Ok can we talk about how cool Goblin was in this scene like he's having a perfectly normal conversation with Spider Man and respected him enough to not take off his mask.
This is balls on a filmmaker, this is perfectly cheesy, perfectly acted, perfectly acted, perfectly edited. Everything about this scene is flawless, every film student needs to study why this scene works.
There is no "moral relativism" idiot. One is an insane murderer and the other is simply a teenager trying to eliminate crime from an entire city without any obligation.
Let's not forget that he, Green Goblin, offed the ones who were getting rid of him, despite everything he had done for Oscorp. Therefore, he indeed had some reasons to off people who pushed him to the edge.
@@juandidino5482 Unless One believes in God or a higher power and that he is the absolute standard for Mans morality then there is no morals. It doesn’t exist. Because society says something or the government does doesn’t make it so. Everyone’s definition of “morality” and right and wrong would be different in their own eyes.
You gotta love scenes where the villain just wants to talk to the hero for a little before they ultimately have a death battle. It makes for very fun chemistry/scenes!
Excellent scene, Willem Dafoe was phenomenal as Norman Osborn/Green Goblin & was the perfect choice to play both. He’s definitely my personal favorite villain of this excellent film trilogy.
Honestly, most fans will say he was the best villain of the trilogy, which I agree with. Alfred Molina’s Doc Ock was menacing, but he never quite got to the level that Dafoe’s Green Goblin did. And...we don’t even talk about the Spider-Man 3 trio, even though Thomas Haden Church’s Sandman was the most tolerable of that bunch.
I personally prefer Doc Ock's character in this franschise,partially due to his naturally humble and down to earth nature but I see where you are coming from. To each their own
@@Davidscomix saying that word isn’t bad unless you use it in a sensitive way yall need to stop being so close minded ong man’s was just making a joke goddamm
MCU doesn't allow Villians to be understandable so it's up to fans to understand the mindset basically its probably gonna be a bunch of villain taunting with a heroic speech where some villains have a change of heart.
I love these kinds of movies that bring out the harsh truth of super heros, all the destruction caused by just them fighting would take so many lives irl
Jameson's qoute can also relate to some who despises and hate the meaning of "Slander" when they think they can say, think what they want about something when it's not true.
this kinda shows he knew exactly whats going on with spidey, but choose to run with a news hating on him because he knew it would generate more income for the company. does he hate him? he shown to be but in actuality fuck no, spiderman single handedly improves his company profit by tenfold. his self justification is that, much like in Whiplash, if spiderman is truly paragon of good, no matter how much shit we threw at him, he wont break, he will overcome it. he will be great.
![Blox Fruits Dragon Rework Update [Full Stream]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EqDAp8udhm0/mqdefault.jpg)
I like how GG kidnapped Spidey like in the late afternoon and then had to wait for him to wake up. I wonder how many times Peter started to stir and Goblin started his monologue before he realized Peter was still asleep, and just had to sit around waiting
Man probably practiced it while spidey was asleep lmao
😆
He has been telling Spidey to Wake Up for HOURS
@@Commander_Shepard. probably slapped him around too
All that time he was staring at him, quite creepy 😬
"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you." Never realized until re-watching the movie that the Goblin is projecting his own betrayal onto Peter. Norman started Oscorp and did great things for the company and his associates, and in the end, they all stabbed him in the back and tossed him aside like he was nothing.
Do you know what I sacrificed!!!!!!!
@@AndreNitroX You are out, Norman.
Very good observation
Never realized until now with your comment
@@CrowMan434 you are out, Norman
Props to J.J for not selling out Peter. He's a hardass but he's not evil.
Joe Montag Gaming well peter does make them money
@@Bat-talk Exactly Jameson was just protecting his own money not Peter. If he actually cared for him he would have payed him more for his pictures also why he would have risked his life just to save Peter here? I mean they just met in this movie.
@@the_sam_strong what good is money if he's dead
@@mrbust999 counter question why would a selfish rich guy with family die for a guy he just met?
@@the_sam_strong lemme guess according to you all CEO's or high level managers are heartless greedy people.You've been watching too much Hollywood, and to less living in the real world.
"The one thing they love more than a hero, is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying" that line hits different everytime I hear it
"In spite of everything you've done for them eventually they will hate you why bother?" Hits harder
Yea green goblin had game he knew what he was doing trynna take over , Spider-Man is lame not joining
Yeah That Quote 🙂🥀🖤
He is actually talking truth
He is actually talking truth look how in spider man 2 they started hateing him caues of jj goblin was talking truth all along
Let’s appreciate the fact that green goblin was evil, but still respected spiderman enough to not unmask him
I feel like he just didn’t care, not like he would recognize some random New Yorker
I mean idk because one he found d out it was Peter he attacked the ones he loved.
@@naka4214 Little did he know that was a New Yorker he did know.
It doesn't do anything. If spiderman was miles morales or anyone else that is not related to him he wouldn't know anyway. In the Justice Leaguge animated where Lex get in the body of Flash and he instantly unmask himself to see who is Flash and he just cannot figure it out as Wally has nothing to do with Lex and they never meet before
@@naka4214 If he didn't care, he would just see who he is in case spiderman refused his offer. But instead, he respects spiderman by not unmasking him in hopes of making an alligence.
Green Goblin was a nicer dude compared to his other villains. He offered Peter a good job and gave Spiderman the choice to team up when he could've killed him in his sleep. Goblin was a fun guy
In Spiderman Homecoming, Michael Keaton did the same thing, like to stay outta his business only because he saved his daughter but it wasn't as good as William Dafoe though
Himawari is 2nd best girl.
Best girl is Akari
Doc Ock is the only one that actually reformed
@@dboslice Did we all just have ingrore the fact that he said to Peter to stay out of his way WITH A LITERAL GUN TO HIS HEAD?!
Flaky Batu I mean most of his movie villains were kinda nice and sympathetic, the real exceptions were mysterio and venom.
2:20 - The way Goblin just playfully slaps Spidey and leans on the roof like he's just chilling with his friend is absolutely hilarious. Like, imagine two arch nemeses talking to each other like this.
here i thought the joker and batman had chemistry
@@trivonnereid8877 I thought of Batman and Joker when I watched this scene and I wondered why and then it hit me. Heath Ledger sort of told Christian Bale the same exact thing in the prison interrogation scene in The Dark Knight.
@@whatutalkinboutwillis6122 yeah
I loved that as well
Joker did the same thing in Arkham city when Batman was strapped to the chair 🪑
It took me 19 years to understand that this speech from Goblin didn’t come out of nowhere, He was speaking from his own recent experience.
Very true, I never thought of it like that
It's no different from the Joker's speech in The Dark Knight.
Yeah his prediction came true in spider-man tnas
So have you been sitting in your room and thinking about what that spider-man scene meant for a fourth of your life?
Why bother?
Jameson is a real MVP. Didn’t rat out Peter even when he was on the verge of getting his ass whooped.
Ass whooped? I think he was about to get killed lol
Ass whooped is an understatement.
Journalists protect their sources.
Jameson aint no snitch 😤
@@IDK83 so glad to see him in mcu spiderman movies again
"Or we can cause the deaths of thousands as we selfishly battle again and again and again and AGAIN! Is that what you want?" The entirety of the most legendary comic rivalries in a single take.
"You and I were destined to do this forever"
Hey we got stories to tell and money to make
"Think about it, hero!"
you missed the before we’re both dead part bc they both died while fighting each other
@@zoxyy.1x No I said what I quoted, I may have forgotten that part but what I posted was the lesson I was bringing up from this underappreciated quote that reflects the part of every famous fictional rivalry that too many people take for granted.
“In spite of everything you’ve done for them, eventually they will hate you”
After seeing No Way Home, the chills are incredible
Facts
This quote aged so well...
Cringe
I miss the part where that’s my problem
@@FlaccidSunday Gonna cry?
Joker: “In their last moments, people show you who they really are.”
JJJ: “I don’t know who he is! His stuff comes in the mail!”
Up the irons buddy
He was great
The Joker was explaining why he uses a Knife!
Say what you will about JJJ but he has always shown to be a man with integrity
Yea J.J had balls most woulda gave them up INSTANTLY to save there own skin
I love that JJ isn’t willing to risk Peter to protect himself
I think u got it backwards but yeah
Caleb Couto what do you mean when the goblin asked who takes the pictures he lied and said they came through the mail
@@Captainbadger123 oh my bad I thought you said “ I love that JJ IS willing to risk Peter” lol
I was surprised af thinking that he would sell him out
Just like in spectacular Spider-Man
You know, this is my favorite scene in all three of Rami's spider man movies. Everything from JJ lying to protect Peter to the Goblin's speech... simply magnificent.
While Spider-man was selling papers, the Bugle was doing fine before Spider-man photos. I really do think he knew the Goblin wasn't going to talk to the photographer in a polite way. The Goblin already killed a few people.
Neoblackdragon Actually, Green Goblin wouldn't kill Peter as Peter was the only one who could lead him to Spider Man. However, Green Goblin wouldn't ask Peter nicely as you have mentioned
Spider Speedster Z Johan Jamerson didn't know Peter was Green Goblin's son's best friend.
Spider Speedster Z I understand. GG has no intention of killing Peter, but that doesn't explain why Johan Jamerson didn't sell out Peter.
Mine too my favorite suit is a black suit
I watched an interview of Willem Defoe, he said he fought to get this part, because back then, making movies from comics wasn’t all that big yet, and people were questioning on him why he chose this role, he said it was different and it ended up being fun to do.
Happy Willem Defoe had fun making it ❤️
he also insisted on being in the suit as much as possible
The Passion of Willem Defoe. ❤️
William dafoe....the man who familiarized me with memes
When comicbook movies as a genre were still just a small demographic in a wider variety of movie genres. Mainstream marvel movies really took off after the original blade and xmen movies. Dafoe committed to the film because he knew it would be a box office smash. He knew he was part of something prestigious. From the public’s perspective 2002 was a year in which superheroes had very little stakes in the blockbuster territory but people working inside Hollywood could see the rise and potential of this genre. Twenty years later and comicbook films have dominated the cinematic landscape. Some would say that the market is oversaturated.
I think it's also fair to say he nailed it!
“You n’ me, we’re exceptional…”
The delivery of that line is chilling. Great way to get across his philosophy. People admire and raise up those who are unique and powerful, there’s nobody else as unique and powerful as them so why shouldn’t they be on top. Great scene!
unless they fear oppression and destruction
@@andrewdoriani617 I’m referring to the Goblin’s justification. It’s cruel and wicked but he makes his point effectively.
@@andrewdoriani617 you can sell oppression as something "liberating" to the simpleminded. Look how many college kids went from defending Israel to hating on it in just a couple years , because bloggers solds them the idea that Palestine is a tiny poor country that has never done anything to its neighbors
@@Dan_KanervaThat is so true, a lot of people, especially well “educated” people have beliefs that they don’t know the basis, nor the origin of. A lot of people believe whatever is most popular, because they do not want to feel indifferent, they have no insensitive for Independent thought.
@@Dan_KanervaI don't know anyone who believes what you're claiming, I only know of people who think murdering citizens is wrong no matter who it is that's doing it or who those citizens are.
when I was a kid I never understood why Jameson was saying " I don't know who he is his stuff comes in the mail". Now I realize, he is trying to protect Peter
Only for selfish reasons he’s protecting Peter. If he sold him out, then he would lose his source of income from someone who can take photos from otherwise impossible angles.
@@DestructiveDave1900 thats make sense
Me too.
DestructiveDave1900 Goblin was about to pummel him to death. I don't think Jameson cares THAT much about money.
Nah its consistently shown in most adaptations JJ protects peter but despises spiderman
2:20 - Green Goblin giving Spiderman a casual smack across the back of his head lol.
Lol i always loved that prt as he lounges next to him when he could easily kill him 🤣
I've always thought that was the funniest part of the movie. It should've been a meme.
(love)
He should’ve smacked his ass instead
@@s.m4125 Shame he didn't. Doctor Conners, on the other hand: ruclips.net/video/7OaEHpKDz_M/видео.html
Joker: "In their final moments, people show you who they really are."
Jameson when threatened by GG: "I don't know who he is, his stuff comes in the mail!"
As greedy and stingy he is he still wouldn't use other people to bail himself out. He is a great man.
according to this theory, lying in his last moments makes him a total asshole or a noble guy trying to protect a young photographer boy?
@@randomlivinglifeform In the comics he actually loved Peter like a son even if he wouldn't admit publicly
@@randomlivinglifeform … It’s the latter dude… If he told the truth that would have made him a cowardly asshole.
@@user-vr5zk9ox8d That's too difficult to understand to some people as you can see lol
Green Goblin nicely sums up how battle with superheroes and supervillains go, and he makes it clear he doesn't care if the battles end with him dead as long as he has his fun.
Not really, that’s the Joker. Green Goblin wants power and he’ll kill anyone who gets in his way. The point he was making was that fighting until they both die, because he won’t stop until victorious, is pointless compared them joining forces to achieve his goals.
He reveals his secret identity and makes a sympathy play JUST to confuse Peter and stab him in the back in the final fight because Peter beat him physically and likely might’ve killed him.
@@danielwood6833 I was thinking about his speech in light of what we saw of him in No Way Home. Plus in this movie we don't see the Green Goblin has much of goal beyond being evil, his actions at the climax have no purpose beyond making Spider Man suffer.
@@dragonstormx true but that’s because he’s petty like that, plus the power trip he’d gain from making the only possible equal he has die layer by layer.
When he pretty much goads the MCU Spidey to kill him that was either a ‘lost the battle but win the war’ move, or just inconsistent writing.
@@danielwood6833 I wouldn't call that inconsistent writing. Green Goblin in No Way Home knew he would die if he was returned to his universe, so he decided to have as much fun as possible before kicking the bucket.
@@dragonstormx I think it is the inconsistent writing of the writing in no way home
"In spite of everything you've done for them, they will eventually hate you, why bother?"
Very relatable quote till to this day...
LEGEND 25 spidey should’ve saved Aunt May in ps4
And then Spider-Man replies in Neo’s voice, “Because I choose to.”
Sounds like something Joker says to Batman
Well...Since Gotham is New York....You could say it was like that...More or less.
It really is a relatable quote. That's why I like Green Goblin's part in this scene because of some of the things he says
This scene legitimately made me realize as a kid we were in a different age of Superhero movies. The hero and villain having a legitimate, drama filled conversation on the rooftops straight out of the comics. Played dead serious even though they're in these over the top costumes.
@Mystic Editor nowadays it’s on sight no sequel 😂
what? over the top costumes?
@@zoxyy.1x Green Goblin is in a Power Ranger villain suit
The MCU doesn't have stuff like this.
@@codafett daredevil enters the chat*
"In Spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you.."
-Green Goblin
Came back from the "No Way Home" trailer just to hear that...
Spider man 1 awesome, 2002
Spider man 2 best spider film
Spiderman 3 Awful 2007
The first two movies were great just because 1 movie not performed as it should be , 5 yrs of spiderman's fan base broken, in spite everything spiderman og give eventually they hated him for 1 or 2 reason
Wtf is a Jojo reference doing here?
And we did see them hate him by the third one but it wasn’t his fault.
Well…maybe a little.
People comparing Spider-Man 2002 masterpiece with shitty No Way Home makes alot of cringe
I remember hearing Snyder say, "you can't have a serious conversation between two people wearing silly comic book costumes"
This scene right here proves that you can.
Snyder is a hack, so doesn't matter what he says.
So does the Joker speaking to Batman in the Dark Knight.
Snyder's an edgelord who thinks characters who are permanently miserable for no reason and pretentious religious symbolism comparing them to gods is character depth so best not to listen to him.
Snyder is an unintelligent failure who ruined an entire universe especially two comic heroes who were the easiest to make movies on. The guy doesn't know a thing about movie making except shoe horning characters and fight scenes without a nn context.
@@Xehanort10 the worst mistake WB did was hiring that director who shredded DC to ruins. His fans are even worse. Illiterate folks think he makes some masterpieces.
As a kid I never realized how important this was for his character. The way he protected Peter and didn't give him up even in the face of death.
yee very based
hes a real one!!
@@omnackymy name is based but RUclips fucked it up TYBG
There’s multiple levels to it I find because if the goblin gets Peter, JJ won’t get any more Spider-Man pictures. So ultimately still greed-motivated, but also nice JJ protected him.
@@jackacebedo2318 what use is money if you're turned into a skeleton by some guy on a flying scooter
God the casual slap on the head gets me all the time
It’s so chill
Didn't expect you here
YOU
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 same
yeah i know i love that movment
This scene shows that Jameson isn't a heartless bastard
He lied to the Goblin’s face to protect Peter
@@demonkingofvalor8162 no amount of money will have you lie in the face of a murderer holding you by your throat if you didn't care about the source
@@demonkingofvalor8162 What use is money if the Goblin kills him or beats him to an inch of his life? Use your fucking head.
@@demonkingofvalor8162 J.J. didn't try to protect his money. He tried to protect Peter. He doesn't give a crap about his money if he is about to get the snot beat out of him. He worried that Pete might get hurt. You can also see J help Peter in the comics.
@@demonkingofvalor8162 k
I love how Goblin says "I could squash u like a bug right now" to make spiders not seem so intimidating💪👏
then how about "... squash you like an arachnid right now"
ehh, sounded off abit but at least it accurate
"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you."
@@phasedcloak2835
Bug is a blanket term used to describe arthropods.
"In spite of everything you've done for them eventually they will hate you."
This aged very well
They will eventually hate you
Yep
Who we hating ?
@@TheUncleSpiderX in no way home, people hate spidey
@@amithrb5693 it’s spider supporters and Mysterio supporters
when i was a kid, i was like, man this scene is fucking boring, fight already, but now years later as adult, im fascinated with this scene. goblin makes a good point.
Blu omg dude same
Thats because as kids, we have fucking small attention spans.
Same
Blu SAME
Same, I've been rewatching the Raimi trilogy and I've learned to appreciate the small moments like these. Uncle Ben's talk, this conversation, Doc Ock's conversation about intelligence, even the small interactions with Ursula, especially the cake scene. It's brilliant
Always liked that Jameson lied to Goblin and jeopardized his life when he could have sold Peter out.
doesn't he truly care about those who work for him despite his angry exterior?
The Strong He only cares about himself
The Strong e
The Strong @ saban
yih
William DeFoe played that Green Goblin character so well. His voice is so perfect for the character. I had to laugh when he smacked Spider-Man on the head😂
Jydferrrtuio😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊❤Ich habe mir die Bücher Deuio Dertuio Deruio Sertuio
Po:"You finally met your match,(Dramatically)Chameleon."(The Chameleon's eyes glow into Aquamarine, and she begins to grow.)Chameleon:"1:47"(The Chameleon transforms into Po, but with sharp Teeth, Reptile-like Aquamarine Eyes, and Spikes and Scales on the body.)Chameleon(Like Po)(Deep voice):' *SKADOOSH!!!* 'Po:"Stand back! I'm gonna kick. my. Butt!"
IMAGINE Willem Dafoe playing the JOKER!!!!
As a kid I didn’t understand one bit of Goblin’s speech. Now as an adult, it really resonates with me. Growing up kinda sucks, but understanding stuff like this is pretty awesome
Shit for me to this day I can quote every line. Not sure why but sometimes it’ll randomly pop in my head. I’ll randomly be quoting it. Must’ve been my favorite scene as a kid 🤷♂️
100th like
"Let's do evil evil things together" - yes, pretty hard to understand.
Don't Panic
Shut up you Donkey Kong Player -JACK
"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you"
This aged very well
"I trust my barber"
This...however...this did not...
@@danjoredd check out JJ Jameson in Far from Home
@Sharty Waffles no dude, he was referencing JJ Jameson's appearance in No Way Home. Same actor, but the hair was goofed up down the middle. The joke is Jameson says he trusted his barber to cut his hair nicely, who is probably the reason why 20 years later his hair got so badly screwed up in NWH
@@str2010 his hair wasn’t goofed up, JK Simmons just got older
@@str2010 wtf? his hair is not goofed up because of a bad haircut. he just has male pattern baldness. your comment is the definition of confidently incorrect lmao
Gotta get those daily bugle supplements
After watching No way home, Willem dafoe's Green goblin is undoubtedly one of the greatest villains of all time.
I feel like he carried no way home not gonna lie !!
@@kristianhutchison9066 Big facts
@@kristianhutchison9066 He stole the show for me. Absolutely killed that role! 🔥
Love that he lost that mask! Dafoe really has the best crazed expressions.
Agreed minus the one of
jameson protecting peter from the green goblin is really overlooked in my opinion
I noticed that too.
As much as I don’t like Jameson talking down on the homie Spidey I gotta give him mad props for not being a snitch
he's actually right about Spider Man being the villain, Spider Man is a vigilante who takes justice in his own hands, sure he doesn't really harm anyone but who's there to restrict him if he decides to hunt for bigger criminals and more controversial ones?
@@shepherdlavellen3301 vigilante, sure. But how does being able to hunt bigger criminals make him a villain?
@@RagnarLoudpak controversies and unclear evidence, l'm not talking about bank robbers I'm talking stuff like a mafia boss, corrupt government officals, stuff like that, there's a reason why laws exist
not only was willem dafoe a stunning green goblin actor. He was also a perfect fit for being james franco's father
They really do make a father and son act alright.
They look exactly alike that one will think that James Franco's father is William Dafoe
I offered you friendship.. and you spat in my face!
We gonna Have a Hellava Time
They have a similar hairstyle in this movie
I love the way he casually slaps his head at 2:21 lmao
Mark 1996 I lose it every time that happens. Such a Halloween party gesture.
that was actually not in the script, Willem Dafoe made it to annoy Tobey because they didn't get along
Samot the actually didn’t get along
Lol
Samot how do you know ?
"Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel." That line went over my head as a kid
Really appreciate the subtlties, Jamison wouldn't give up Peter to save himself and Goblin would not Kill Spiderman or unmask him... Fantastic movie!
Agreed
Yeah, I like that after their first confrontation, knowing that spiderman is a potential threat to whatever plan the Green Goblin has, his approach is to try and work with him rather than trying to kill him, and it's only after getting rejected that he focuses on killing spiderman and making him suffer as much as possible in the process.
@@p20sm just like a businessman would do, which is ironic since norman is a businessman.
Y
A
I was too young to fully understand this scene 19 years ago but now I realize the Green Goblin was speaking facts.
The situation with mysterio proved it
@@kredfieldk It certainly did
@@kredfieldk explain
@@CHAMP_-gw5ys you living under a rock?
@@mianhussain2357 yes explain
"In spite of everything you've done for them... eventually they will hate you... why bother?"
^ The most "real" thing I've ever heard a movie villain say.
Thats why i hate marvel movies nowadays thier for big cgi movie bucks not for true good old classic hero saving ppl while the vilian stalks the hero or someshit i hope marvel does a zombie movie one day bc theres a comic where all the heroes and villians turn into zombies its cool asf the last surviviors were iron man and his assistant i think idk i haven't read the comic in a while
This movie has so many awe inspiring quotes. Personally, my favorite is 1:13
Fat Brown Buffalo when spider man 3 was released
@@imposterblockade1826 ok good point and agree it feel like the Marvel aren't even trying well they are trying but by using CGI it feel lazy as hell tbh
"There are 8 million people in this city, and those teeming masses exist for the sole purpose of lifting the few exceptional people onto their shoulders."
That's the truth about the majority of the world's population too... 😵
I always loved how in the Rami trilogy, Spider-Man and his villains had very comic booky moments like with how over the top the Green Goblin was at times, but also had these very human elements blended into their scenes. It adds so many layers to the Goblin's character and makes some people wonder whether if he's really a mad lunatic or a genius who's outlook on life is very warped. Green Goblin's so crazy that he sings when he's destroying and hurting people, yet at the same time also gives compelling arguments that make the audience question whether he's right and Spider-Man is wrong to try to keep being a hero.
"I trust my barber!"
*seventeen years later: Jameson is completely bald*
That’s a backstabber!
"The last time I trust someone. I lost my hair."
@@khoadao3071 He got karma for making Spiderman look bad.
he wears a wig in these movies;)
@@khoadao3071 let me tell you about the hair initiative.
Please don’t cut my hair! NOOOOOOOO!
Don’t touch my hair.
Proposing to Spider-Man on a rooftop with a view of the city? Who knew Green Goblin was such a romantic?
not THAT kind of proposal lol it's more like an alliance proposal.
...or was that sarcasm? lol
😂😂😂
Although Green Goblin’s ulterior motives for wanting Spider-Man as a partner were not revealed, it’s likely he desired power since Spidey is the only one who can stop him.
While Goblin knows that Spidey is the only one who can stop him, he gives Spidey the choice of joining him willingly. In their next fight, Spidey makes it clear he refuses and Goblin comes to the conclusion Spidey must be eliminated if he cannot be turned to the dark side and continues to stand in his way.
he even carried him in a romantic style
I never understood the weight of this conversation as a child. As a young man now I see how valid some of his points are. And it kills me to know that the bad guys always have some pretty damn good points
love how young men like to identify themselves as young men instead of adults
@@xers8719 because Society sees 20 year old men as grown up teenagers
@@BoricuaKelfa sadly :(
Thats why villain is actually a real hero for adult.
@@joseguevara3269 It's the way it is! I mean, in the 50's people were having babies marrying and getting their lifelong jobs at 20. Now some of us get to choose what to do with our 20's. That's good and bad, because people extend that to their late 30's
I’ve always respect to the fact that JJ never sold Peter out.
Y’all have to understand that JJ is actually a good guy
He truly believes all the crap that comes from his mouth.
JJ believes in heroism, it’s just that he simply doesn’t believe Spider-Man is a hero.
Because he doesn’t trust anybody that easily, much less people in disguise, despite their actions
I always thought it was because Jameson’s a shrewd businessman and Parker is a freelance photographer who works for essentially peanuts. If Jameson had told Goblin who takes Spider-Man’s pictures, he’d have to hire another photographer who’ll want a decent enough salary which is Jameson’s worst nightmare. But that’s just my personal opinion.
@@carlosserra689he trusts his barber😂
William Defoe is THE Green Goblin. He captured the insane nature of Norman Osborne to a T and I'm SO glad he's coming back to reprise his role.
Sorry overdosed schmuck but Willem Dafoe's Goblin is much better than Joker.
@@loganshitsallbatmanmovies5465 Thanks for agreeing with me?
@@loganshitsallbatmanmovies5465 bro he said nothing about Ledger’s joker
@@dewanscorpion ikr
@@loganshitsallbatmanmovies5465 bro you trippin
J. Jonah Jameson refusing to give up Peter Parker to the Green Goblin was probably JJJ’s best moment
i just realized that he does this! very interesting. i'm wondering if he is genuinely protecting peter or only protecting him because he provides the photos.
@@skybelowus_ well, in the comics, he actually does care about him.
....plus journalist ought to protect his/her sources:)
The scene was similar in Spectacular Spider-Man where JJ did the same when Rhino held him.
@@skybelowus_ I mean, if the other option is dying, having supply of photos is the least of your concerns
“I’ve watched you from deep behind Norman’s cowardly eyes; struggling to have everything you want, while the world tries to make you choose. Gods don’t have to choose. We take!”
Sorry Ledger but Willem Dafoe's Goblin is much better than Joker.
@@loganshitsallbatmanmovies5465 I respectfully disagree
Although I'm totally hyped to see Green Goblin and William Defoe return, I have NO idea how they'll go about it since he literally dies in the first movie and Sandman as well as Doc Oc from the same universe also are going to be in the movie.
@@justalpha9138 alternate universes are all at different points in time, and you can travel to another universe at any point on its timelime
STRONG ENOUGH TO HAVE IT ALL, TOO WEAK TO TAKE IT
"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you" - what an amazing line. I'm not even kidding, that's modern Shakespeare.
“In spite of everything you’ve done for them, eventually they will hate you.”
Love this quote, and it even speaks for today’s standards and I so can’t wait to see No Way Home, tomorrow🕷🕸
Same 😅
"Why bother?"
"Because…. It’s right!"
Just watched it... It doesn't disappoint
@ Kanye West 🥲
That’s a great line especially considering no way home
I love how Goblin goes through all this trouble just to ask who takes the pictures of Spiderman when he could simply walk down the street, buy a newspaper and see the words "photo by Peter Parker" right under any picture of Spiderman.
Ohhhhhh😂
Unless i missed it somewhere in the movie, i find it unlikely The Bugle, more specifically, JJ, would give the photographer any credit for the shots given how he pays for the pictures and immediately gives em the boot
Is this a fact that you know or an assumption? Do the newspapers in this movie show his name?
@@Karma-pq9fi yup. I'd send you a picture if I could. But on one of the papers when there is a close up on the picture in the paper, if you pause it and zoom, you'll see "ter Parker" the name will be cut off because of how the camera catches it but I'm sure we can all agree that's Peter Parker
@@gavinfreenone6626 nah, his name is there, you can see it
"I could squash you like a bug right now" cracks me up every time William Dafoe was fantastic in this movie.
king shawn I thought it was a cheesy line
Is willem not william
osaro runner and he did in the final fight.
I agree he was a great Goblin, did just about all of his own stunts too. He's a very athletic man. knows several forms of martial arts and is a great actor,in all of his movies. I loved him in John Wick and in the movie The Florida project. He really knows how to draw you into the movies.
His delivery was so on point!
The green goblin spitting facts 💯💯 1:58 i can relate to him. No matter how good you treat people they will eventually turn against you and still do you wrong so damn true 💯 i understood that fact as a kid early
0:50
"At the last moments of their life, people show you who they really are."
Legit. One of my favourite character moments for Jameson in this series. Despite the fact he acts, and let’s face it, is super greedy and self centred, REFUSED to tell Green Goblin jack, when all he has to do it point to Peter and say “that’s him! That’s the photographer!”. Peters just a kid, and at the end of the day Jameson wouldn’t throw a kid in front of a bus if it meant saving his own life. Gotta respect it ✊.
Goblin is just Joker. Change my mind.
@@appendixlessloser4806 You serious? Joker is chaos for the sake of chaos, Goblin is greedy and narcissistic, everything he does is for his own good or his ego.
@@maxhydekyle2425 What I meant was their characters seem very similar to me. Maybe it's because I don't read Spider-man comics, but I always viewed Goblin as an insane maniac out to emotionally hurt Spider-Man, kinda like how the Joker tries to emotionally hurt others. They even look similar! Their facial expressions, their mannerisms, their ways of doing things just seem very similar to me, and if you don't agree that's totally fine. I don't care. I just think that they both are similar, insane maniacs. That is all.
Gsg@@MW2isthebest123
“In spite of everything you’ve done for them eventually they will hate you.”
This quote hits different after seeing the trailer for No Way Home.
True that
I mean it hits harder in this movie itself.
Mysterio had to fake an entire attack and blame it on Peter in order for people to lose hope in him.
Tobey's spidey was just doing what he could to help, but because of a small rumour everyone hated him.
I don’t care what people think now, Green Goblin’s costume is still badass to me.
I agree
This is Obviously the only relevant Outfit. The comic book goblin looks like a one shot NPC, like just an average goblin, the Not badass clishee Goblin we know from Fairy Stories.
I just focus on how good William is as an actor, he really gave it his all to be the goblin.
@@lking1540 yea and he done an astonishing job and even enjoyed the role
When I was like 10 yrs old I thought it was cool too. Now it looks goofy as hell.
“In spite of everything you done for them, you eventually they will hate you” being the nice guy never got me anywhere. I resonate with this line now
Sadly in the real world being nice just tells other people they can walk all over you knowing you won't retaliate.
Exactly. You can help someone 100 times. But the moment you make a mistake, they hold that against you and forget the last 100 times you helped them.
True that same here
@@muigokublack6487perfect for getting bullied. Me as an example
@@breakingbenjamin555my mom says that this is how this works works so you gotta be 100% perfect
JK Simmons will always be the one and only Jameson to me, he looks and feels like he was pulled from the comic books / cartoons and brought to life on the screen.
That was perfect casting! I couldn’t see anyone else pulling off Jameson like Simmons did
probably why they casted him in the new movies lol
Facts I'd be scared if he was my dad and portraying his character in this film
I agree and that’s why they brought him back I can’t see any other actor playing JJJ
He was born for those cast...
"The one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you."
One of the best and truest quotes to date. Can apply to all super hero movies as of 2019.
I'm14andthisisdeep
@@56mdk hi skullkid
It can apply to real life.
That’s depressing and makes people despicable
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 it's true
2:20 I love how he just causally smacks spider-man on the head.
@The Man That Uploads It All really?
@The Man That Uploads It All lmao so petty
"I like your cut G"
@The Man That Uploads It All source?
@The Man That Uploads It All I pretty sure that was james franco they didn't get along.
Props to Goblin for waiting patiently for Peter to wake up.
Just saying...it was day when Goblin gassed Spiderman to sleep. It's night when the conversation happens.
I can just imagine Goblin walking about the rooftop, staring at the people and the city, thinking up his little speech. Maybe stops to smoke a cigarette or two. I can see him walking over and flicking Spiderman on the cheek, telling him to wake up, before just being like "...shit. Well, I guess I could order a pizza or something...", and just sitting there having a little pizza party to himself. Then he hears Spiderman groan as he's starting to come awake, and Goblin quickly finishes up his slice and chucks the box off the roof.
@@Seeker-wq8jcRight, exactly! Please reply to me!
@@Seeker-wq8jc😂
@@Seeker-wq8jcWhat a waste of a good pizza.
@WallyWest23 Well. He is pretty evil so...😂
Goblin: "SLEEEEEEEEEEEEP"
That voice always gets me
Me too I'll never get tired of replying it every year
It’s so creepy
@@ArnavKhode I agree that's it's my favorite line
And the little "aaaahhhh..." he does afterwards always gets me lol
Agreed!!!!
2:40 Willem Dafoe's voice is pitch-perfect.
It really is
Which is I guess is why Pixar chose him to play Gill in Finding Nemo
@@saulthechicanootaku that's really nice
I'm the 900th to LIKE your comment
It only took 3 years @@johnstriker480
I've always and still enjoy William Dafoe's portrayal of the Green Goblin in this movie, especially in his tone of voice, it sounds menacing and delivers some great dialogue and monologuing and this scene proves it
Gaming Minds of Awesomeness I think Gary Oldman could play Norman Osborn in the MCU. I can't unheard Gary Oldman whenever Green Goblin speaks here, especially when he said "WHO'S THE PHOTOGRAPHER TAKING THE PICTURE OF SPIDER-MAN?"
Tbh William Dafoe as Green Goblin is much scarier than mysterio in far from home and vulture in homecoming as well
Right?! As a kid I loved it. He was awesome and it made the movie so much better. Good villains like this make a good superhero movies. Time to bring this kind of green goblin back in action.
This scene is the perfect example of "Villains aren't born, they are made."
"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"- Harvey Dent
What about cuckoos? Those are some evil ass birds from birth
@@GBlockbreakerI think birds and dolphins are the exception. Along with a few other species.
@@adolphaselrah9506 Orcas too
Good guy goblin doesn't unmask spiderman even when he's unconscious. Respect.
Yess❤
He had a type of mutual respect for Spiderman because he viewed him as exceptional. He wanted to remove him from the equation if possible but he have respect for spideys power. Its a great dynamic
I think for Goblin, at that time it doesn't matter who Spider-man really was, if was a random guy that he never see before? It really doesn't make the difference for him. Lucky for Peter, but Norman finds out the truth later on, so...
Remember how mad joker got when his henchman removed Batman's mask
That would be too easy
"in spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you."
You can ask the Incredibles
You can ask the avengers
You can ask Superman
The most terrifying villains are NOT the ones who look scary or laugh menacingly. The most terrifying villains are the ones where you realize they are partially right in their assessment of our world (but have chosen the completely wrong way to remedy it)! When our society goes awry, it can produce countless monsters of the worst kind.
People fear what, or whom, they cannot control.
@@jeremygonzalez9270 The Day The Earth Stood Still is a powerful example of this. Humans hurt Klaatu because they fear him (and can't control him), but then when he calls out their destructive ambitions, their fear turns into utter hatred. Only one family and a group of scientists will listen to the alien before militaries force him to leave Earth (the only peaceful option he's basically given).
@@thunderbird1921 well said
@@thunderbird1921 exactly just like the joker 2019
"That's slander."
"It is not, I resent that!... Slander is spoken, in print it's libel"
J.K. Simmons as J.J.J was just perfect
I mean, he said his script...
@@turbotrup96 well duh, it matters HOW he said it
@@shmekelfreckles8157 sometimes I feel like certain actors' fans forget that script helps in their performance, though...
@@turbotrup96 bruv, take a seat
@@StevosoFilms ok, stop pretending that's not a thing. Fanboys will often hype their favourite actors beyond their actual capabilities.
the analogy between goblin’s proposal in Spider-man and Joker’s speech during interrogation in the Dark knight is evident, both dialogues reveal to be not so wrong after all, that does the spectator think, “you and I are not so different” and “you complete me” are the perfect representation of the hero/villain relationship, they do have more in common than what it seems.
Well that was the dynamic. Both had been gifted extraordinary powers but how they used them is what defined them. Norman used his power for his own selfish reasons. Peter used his to help those who could not.
And yet it goes deeper than that. Norman by his nature is a jaded individual who only sees the worst in people. A philosophy he points out to Harry during Thanksgiving because that's what he's been surrounded with. People who only want to exploit him and toss him aside when no longer useful hence his line to Peter telling him that the city will eventually hate him and root for his downfall.
That's what separates Norman from Peter.
@@muigokublack6487 agree, they all had struggles in their life and then something happened (powers discovering), it’s the way they act the difference, the outcome of it, which defines and separates good from evil.
(either for Spider-man and Batman movies)
Green Goblin basically is spidermans Joker
@@dagger1580 of course
@@userr_742 They're villainous kindred spirits.
I love the depth behind JJJ's character in this scene. At first, you'd think he's just a scumbag tabloid executive that's only willing to twist the truth every time he speaks, for his own gain. But here, he twisted the truth not for himself, but for Peter's safety. He had nothing to gain from lying to Goblin like this. He easily could have said it was Peter, or he could have thrown the name of his least favorite employee. But no, he went with the extremely directionless answer of "I don't know who he is."
Also, if Peter dies he can’t get any more pictures of Spider-Man
@@notoriousblt1038 Sounds rather cynical, but you have a point. At the same time, JJJ doesn’t hate Peter like he hates Spiderman, so I wouldn’t be so quick to throw the “soullessly pragmatic” card just yet.
@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight well yeah but when some psycho is holding u by the throat and likely going to kill u then money probably ain’t on his mind at the moment
It goes further in Spider-Man 3 when Peter exposed Brock’s photo as a fake, and he prints a retraction and fires Brock instead of running with the false story because it’s interesting.
i can imagine him saying hoffman's name lol
Peter… You’re struggling .. to have everything you want.. while the world tries to make you choose.
I see you posting this on every Green Goblin scene lol
@@golightning291 yes hahaha
Yeah, this line made me rewatch the scene.
to me that is the best lone of green goblin
p.s. my favorite spiderman villain lol
Green goblin’s favorite word. Choose
The green goblin, even when talking like a complete maniac, speaks in a soothing way, I just love listening to him talk and giving speeches.
He’s almost devilish in that regard.
Him and Agent Smith... I could listen to both of them to no end.
"What are you?..his lawyer?...get outta here, let him sue me and get rich like a normal person"😂
Dude imagine if some random dude went up to the roof just for a smoke and then accidentally walked into them just talking
LOL! XD!
He’d probably say, “oh my god what the hell is going on here”!
ThatOscarGuy99 And then Green Goblin would Skele-bomb him
Absolutely Peter would be so depressed about not being able to do anything at the same time.
@@jeremytewari3346
How It Should Have Ended.
Goblin: I could have squashed you like a bug right now. But I am offering you a choice. Join me...
At that moment the Punisher shows up.
Frank: One badge. Two badge. Penny and dime. Because here... I ... come!
Goblin: Wo are you?
Frank does not answer and he is preparing the weapons.
Goblin: Spider-Man, do you know this guy?
Spider-Man faintly: I... I.... I don't know.
Frank: Goodbye, asshole.
And then he shoots and kills the Green Goblin.
This movie was so ahead of its time in alot of ways
I think it's just that the bar has been lowered due to mass production of modern cinema.
@@turbotrup96 then again, mcu has been amazing so far
@@kritikill7779 I strongly disagree. The movies feel so similar to each other which make them feel generic.
@@turbotrup96 What about them is generic?
@@turbotrup96 And what about them is similar, theyre part of the same universe, have cameos from other actors, made by the same studios
Spider-Man 1: "Join me, imagine what we could accomplish together..."
Spider-Man 3: *Spider-Man and Goblin together were able to defeat Venom AND Sandman*
I guess Green Goblin had a point
that goblin was still a bit sane tho, this one not so much
that's not Goblin.. that was Lil Goblin Jr.
*Gonna cry?*
Venom whooped them both.
Sorry overdosed schmuck but Willem Dafoe's Goblin is much better than Joker.
1:05
The older I get, the more I understand the Goblin
“You don’t trust anybody, that’s your problem”
“I trust my barber”
😂😂😂
Kold Fusion I don’t even trust my barber 😂😂
Zak Ismail me too
What are you? His lawyer?
Apparently not anymore
This aged well 😂😂
Can we just appreciate how well written the dialogue is?
Nathan Jones its a masterpiece
>masterpiece
>we're not so different you and I
OP Malfit It's called being redundant for the sake of cheesiness. There is dumb redundancy and then there are those that are just to make yourself look like a cheesy ass.
I'm cool with cheesy, just not gonna call it masterpiece :D
OP Malfit Misery, misery, misery, that's all you will choose by listening to trash dialogues and not to this one.
I love Jamison's face when he says "I trust my barber" and then it cuts to Peter and neither of them say a word for a sec, Peter's probably thinking "okay the problem with you is you trust the WRONG people" lol
Oh, JJJ trusted the wrong people alright. Look what happened to his hair in Tom Holland's Spiderman
Well you do need to trust your barber to not mess up your hair lol. As one dude said, “there’s two people who don’t mess with: your cook and your barber”.
@@3DSDF Unless you’re your own chef and happen to be permanently glabrous, respectively.
@@3DSDFthe point op was making is that his barber is very bad at his job
Who else just loves seeing footage of early 2000s New York?
I wish I got to experience new york in the 90's and early 2000's it seemed fun. I was 8 when I visited new york in 2008, it was nice but this definitely seemed like peak new york
I do
You gotta respect JJJ , He comes of as a bad guy and mean , but when it comes down to it hes courageous.
But then again. No Peter Parker no pics of Spiderman....
@@mrosh3726 If he didn't say who takes the pictures goblin would've killed him, so if he dies what's the point of spidey pics? smh
@@johnaaayyy6602 yeah, that's what I meant
I loved that in the original comics that's exactly how Stan Lee wrote him
Just goes to show why he's the boss. He's harsh but not unfair or cruel.
"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually, they will hate you." - Green Goblin
Damn, did that line made more sense in the new teaser trailer of Spider-man: No Way Home. Also, it applies in real life. After all the good things you've done, people will still point out the bad thing you've done. Even if the bad thing you did is true or not. People live to see controversies and issues to add spice to their lives. Which is a very sad attribute to us humans.
yea its fucking annoying, probably us being naturally pessimistic for safety reasons is a part of it
@@qwertyki9367 It's just like what my grandpa told me before, "Give someone a clean paper with a little dot of ink in the middle and they will notice the dot more than paper itself."
You can be a friggin' saint, but that's never going to matter because people are going to remember you for the only bad thing you ever done.
Napoleon said something similar to someone who said that the people loved him and were happy to see him, he responded by saying “They would be happy to see me hang too.”
it not Spiderman fault, it is mysterio fault too.
"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you"
OMG, Goblin just predicted the future 🕸
Nah he just stated what happens all the time.
Spiderman Lotus
That is what happened to the overseer (David Dunn)
No way home
Norman / Goblin was smart.
“Imagine what we could accomplish together.” At least Peter teaming up with Harry in the third film proved Norman right.
It probably wasn’t in the way he expected though.
@@ryanangelastro504your mother
I never realized how good this scene was as a kid until now.
This version of Green Goblin is criminally underrated
Actually I feel like EVERYONE knows how great he is.
Oh yeah, very underated
He’s literally the devil in this trilogy, he dies in this one but haunts Peter and story for the rest of the trilogy
In what universe is he underrated? 😂 he’s the most well known and most popular version of the character.
The only "good" thing about this movie...despite his costume
Green Goblin predicted what’s gonna happen in the spider no way home movie “In spite of everything you’ve done for them, eventually they will hate you.”
I hope there's a flashback to this very scene
Or he'd tell Pete
"I warned you that they'd hate you, so join me or die fighting"
Not just that but also mentioned that they would be unstoppable green goblin and spider man team
@@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer cringe
@@WolfshotPlayz you ok??
Ok can we talk about how cool Goblin was in this scene like he's having a perfectly normal conversation with Spider Man and respected him enough to not take off his mask.
This is balls on a filmmaker, this is perfectly cheesy, perfectly acted, perfectly acted, perfectly edited. Everything about this scene is flawless, every film student needs to study why this scene works.
I saw Hi Top comment this same comment on a different video
@@jadedemotions9891 must be a meme
THIS is why the Raimi directed Spider-Man films work!!!!!!!!!
The thing is this type of cheesiness and camp only works in certain movies and it prolly wouldn’t well received now a days
hi top
"You're A MURDERER!"
"Well, to each his own!"
Moral Relativism at it's worst.
There is no "moral relativism" idiot. One is an insane murderer and the other is simply a teenager trying to eliminate crime from an entire city without any obligation.
Let's not forget that he, Green Goblin, offed the ones who were getting rid of him, despite everything he had done for Oscorp. Therefore, he indeed had some reasons to off people who pushed him to the edge.
@@juandidino5482 what the hell is your problem?! It's a bloody joke seriously dude you need to get laid
@@juandidino5482 Unless One believes in God or a higher power and that he is the absolute standard for Mans morality then there is no morals. It doesn’t exist. Because society says something or the government does doesn’t make it so. Everyone’s definition of “morality” and right and wrong would be different in their own eyes.
@@taegotkash good points
JK Simmons was so good as Jameson
Jimmy Kim yeah so true
Jimmy Kim he didn't just play Jameson HE WAS JAMESON ...amazing acting
Now we're gonna see him as Commissioner Gordon in JL
after seeing him and getting comfortable to. him as jameson i couldn't take him seriously as gordon
Jimmy Kim hell yeah
You gotta love scenes where the villain just wants to talk to the hero for a little before they ultimately have a death battle. It makes for very fun chemistry/scenes!
Imagine if in Death Battle Green Goblin vs Joker. that would be a perfect fight
Excellent scene, Willem Dafoe was phenomenal as Norman Osborn/Green Goblin & was the perfect choice to play both. He’s definitely my personal favorite villain of this excellent film trilogy.
The green goblin suit suked do
FUNKO CON I agree, but Dafoe’s performance almost makes you forget about that horrendous suit.
Honestly, most fans will say he was the best villain of the trilogy, which I agree with. Alfred Molina’s Doc Ock was menacing, but he never quite got to the level that Dafoe’s Green Goblin did. And...we don’t even talk about the Spider-Man 3 trio, even though Thomas Haden Church’s Sandman was the most tolerable of that bunch.
I personally prefer Doc Ock's character in this franschise,partially due to his naturally humble and down to earth nature but I see where you are coming from. To each their own
Green Goblin was the best villain in the whole Marvel Universe, and Maguire was the best spidey (even tough his suit was definitely not the best)
2:21 That head slap is so simple and yet extremely funny 😂
@Sprite yo?
@@Davidscomix saying that word isn’t bad unless you use it in a sensitive way yall need to stop being so close minded ong man’s was just making a joke goddamm
@@ezcap5174 exactly, I thought this word was legal enough to be used, I guess people still couldn't move on from it.
I've always loved that part. Like they are homies.
@@ezcap5174what was it
I can't wait to see this version of Green Goblin giving another speech to Tom Holland's Spider Man.
Yeah but he gave one in the new trailer
@@anishchoudhury8537 That was just a glimpse of the speech he will give.
MCU doesn't allow Villians to be understandable so it's up to fans to understand the mindset basically its probably gonna be a bunch of villain taunting with a heroic speech where some villains have a change of heart.
*we all know its gonna happen and were all excited*
*Peter.... Your struggling... To have everything you want.... While the world.... Tries to make you choose....*
I love these kinds of movies that bring out the harsh truth of super heros, all the destruction caused by just them fighting would take so many lives irl
"That's slander."
"It is NOT. I resent that. Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel."
I love that lol. The way he says, “IT IS NOT!” Is great
I love how initially he seems offended at the accusation but no he just wants Peter to use the right words
Jameson's qoute can also relate to some who despises and hate the meaning of "Slander" when they think they can say, think what they want about something when it's not true.
this kinda shows he knew exactly whats going on with spidey, but choose to run with a news hating on him because he knew it would generate more income for the company.
does he hate him? he shown to be but in actuality fuck no, spiderman single handedly improves his company profit by tenfold.
his self justification is that, much like in Whiplash, if spiderman is truly paragon of good, no matter how much shit we threw at him, he wont break, he will overcome it. he will be great.
What are you guys his lawyer? Get outta here!! Let him sue me lol