Bang & Olufsen MX8000 Retro Gaming CRT Review & Setup Guide
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2020
- Bang & Olufsen MX8000 CRT Review, Setup Guide, Service Menu and why I think it is one of the best consumer grade CRTs you can get for Retro Gaming these days!
Games demoed on a modified SNES outputting NTSC 60hz and MSU1 audio via an SD2SNES flash cart.
Service Manual PDF's:
1drv.ms/u/s!AvXwQ7GFidfhlJRj8...
Forum talking about disabling SVM cable:
circuit-board.de/forum/index.... 
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Few things I forgot to mention...
There are 2x RGB SCART inputs but no SVIDEO (which was on the MX7000)
The picture is much much brighter and a huge improvement over the MX7000 so removing the contrast screen is no longer necessary
Full Colour and picture adjustments can now be made on the RGB input mode (previously not possible on the MX7000)
S-video works trough rgb scart on this 👍🏻
I thought European Scart is or supports RGB?
@@lullylew9083 Composite,RGB.Svideo all from 21 pin scart. If the TV/monitor supports its. Check Scart pinout you see whats there.
@@TheLemminkainen Spot on ty.
Thé best crt is bvm Sony or diamontron Mitsubishi
Now that's a flex. Dammmmm. That thing looks and sounds state of the art. Incredible blacks and crisp as hell.
Awesome crt. I'm so jealous! Great video capture. Thanks for sharing, I subscribed!
The mx8000 has a better picture, sharper image and better colors than my Sony L420 pvm. It is amazing.
Really good review! Not really heard much of the 8000 so good to see such an informative review on it! Picture and sound look and sound amazing even through the RUclips compression! Great vid 👍
Thanks Roy! Much appreciated
Danish used market is flooded with old B&O crts. They were very popular.
that's where they been made
Golden video! I might have gotten my hands on a MX8000 myself, I'm crossing my fingers for the logistics to get in order lol!
Constantly on the hunt for a great CRT going to keep this one in mind thank you for the content
I have a mx4000 (removed the contrast screen) and it’s the best retro gaming picture I’ve had and seen ( and I had 2 Sony trintrons before). I run my consoles via retro gaming cables and official cables and looks so good. I’ll be buying another and storing for back up if see another one pop up on eBay close by.
Great information buddy let me know if you see one sale so I can upgrade 👍🏽
Great video mate!
I got a mx8000 myself a few years back.
I had to travel like 3hours by train to get it haha.
But it's an awesome set for sure.
Thanks for making this video! Always fun to watch.
Btw is there any chance you could make a monitor guide about MX 8000 calibration?
I know each set is unique but still an overview on this topic should be very useful.
I'm sure it would help me and others.
You carried a Mx8000 on the train? Mad man. Have you figured anything out about calibrating it?
Thank you SO MUCH for this. Recieved my MX8000 today and was going bonkers since on my remote it doesnt say "FORMAT", it says "PICTURE" and I managed to set it to 4:3 again.
Excellent glad it helped !
I know this is a late reply but I've just won one of these off eBay. I pick it up this Saturday. I hope you're still enjoying yours!
How’s the geometry?
@@abdelll9737 Very good, I had to tweak it slightly as the image was shifted to the left too much. The TV gives such a nice bright and colourful image. Very happy with it.
@@daveishereuk Mine is pissing me off. No matter what I do I can’t get the whole image on it when I plug a console to it. And the image is all crooked. Oh well…
@@abdelll9737 I take it you've been into the service menu and made some alterations to the geometry?
I finally got one yesterday and yes, it is better than my 2 MX7000. For AV i use Decoder 2 set on the channel 1 so i can use the peritel input on the channel 1 (not Vtape or DVD)
I got one about 2 years ago. Fantastic. I now watch all my movies on it and buy CD’s to listen to on it. Sadly the speakers have blown, the foam disintegrated. I’m building up the nerve to try and remove them and replace the foam things, none online are an exact match for size, couple of mm off, so I’m worried it won’t work.
One of the few benefits of cheaper/lower end CRT’s would be cardboard speaker cones - much less affected by age.
Yeah i've seen an old MX4000 which I repaired for a friend where the speaker foam / rubber round the outside had turned to dust! I'm sure as long as you find a speaker with the same specs e.g. impedance then it should work just fine! As long as you can mount them in the same holes of course.
cool video I was thing of getting a Bang & Olufsen if I can finde one I live in uk I nits you had a number of scary cables and boxes for them have you got a video demonstrating how and what you used id be intrested also this TV set how well does it handle newer console like xbox 360 ps3 ps2 thanks again for making this video
Love these sets, I have the mx7000 for now but hoping to grab this model if one comes up locally. Any chance youve got the docs for the mx7000 by any chance?
Hi! Sorry for the late reply but yes i do have some docs for the MX7000 here 1drv.ms/f/s!AvXwQ7GFidfhlJRogU0zMRY94yFKWw
Very useful video mate. I just picked up an MX8000 a couple of weeks ago and love it.
One thing I can't work out is how to get anything displayed via the front AV port. Any idea what I have to press or menu setting to change?
There's a front AV port!? lol soo there is! mine was hidden behind a bit of plastic.... that's handy! I just tested it out and got it working :) I read the manual and it refers to it as a camcorder input it says to switch to TV input first and turn on the device and yep lo and behold it switched to the AV input, alternatively it says you can press list on the remote repeatedly until CAMCORD* is displayed and then press GO. Hope that works for ya, let me know how you get on.
@@RetroFlex1981 yeah mine was hidden too! Thanks for the info, I'll try it out.
@RetroFlex1981 Which SW version is it on this one in the video?
I love these sound systems. I am not sure if Id choose Sony over This and by that I mean 24" max because the weight.... I would only take round tubes. Sad EU do not have all brands. My desk is full with 1 bad Benq TN, NEC FE2111SB 19.9" 1440p VGA monitor and OEV 143 Sony PVM. Now time to get my new Extron shipped to my doorstep to get PS3 VGA gaming running :))))
I have an MX7000 today, how much would you pay to get an upgrade to the MX8000? The bleak RGB-colors are bothering me a little bit on the MX7000 to be honest, but other than that (and some geometry issues even after calibration) it is quite amazing :)
I bought the Tv today the only problem are 3 corners are blury and one is shaky in the middle is just perfect i wish i could fix it. Does anyone know how to fix it?
Wish I could get one of these in the states.
This Vs the sony trinitron pvm L5?
Looking at buying one of these, but the one on sale looks like the image is slightly tilted. Is there anyway to fix that in the service menu without having to adjust the yoke manually?
Hi. I am not aware of an option to adjust the image tilt in the service menu, even this set has a small amount of it as the bottom line of the 240p test suite does go off the screen more at the bottom left than it does the right side so is a bit uneven but then no consumer set is going to be perfect! How bad is it? If you look in the video description there is a link to the service manual pdfs I uploaded and it has a page where it details what all of the service menu options do so worth a look! You might be able to correct some of it with the east west or bow settings.
If you open up your SCART cable and disconnect pin 8, the widescreen problem goes away. I have an MX4200 that has the same behaviour. For some reason, every SCART cable seems to wire up pin 8 with the voltage that sets 16:9.
yeah I was aware of the pin 8 voltage thing, some consoles like the SNES always provide it not sure why they did this!
Hello!! Could you post your values of colour settings in service menu please? Its Rdr, hdr, etc... Thanks a lot in advance
No problem... here you go:
Offsets Regulation:
Brightness 19
Colour 7
Contrast 25
R-DR 25
G-DR 25
B-DR 36
Black Offset R 0
Black Offset G 0
Soft Clip 0
PWL 10
I actually recently backed off the Red and Green drive a lot because I was getting over saturated reds before. Also refer to the service manual link I posted because some of these are not supposed to be changed. Also keep in mind that every set is different so these settings might not suit yours.
Does anyone know where to find the G2 calibration.?
What is that?
Shout out to crt collective!
How does the mx7000 compare to this model ?
Better RGB mode colours as they were a bit washed out and couldn’t be adjusted on the 7000 and the 8000 also has a much better menu system and a few others things I’ve already mentioned in this video and the pinned comment. However the 7000 is still a great tv it looks identical to this one and has the same amazing active sound system, they are a lot more common (in the UK anyway) as took me a long time to hunt down an 8000.
Why does the music in super mario world sound do different? Is this the pal version differnt.?
He plays SMW rom with some audio enhancements (in video 9:00).
yeah was an MSU1 rom hack. They are available here www.zeldix.net/t1437-super-mario-world-msu . PAL version is exactly the same but runs at 50hz instead.
I got the mx 4000
Works for light guns games like Time Crisis II?
Yep I can confirm it works with NES and PS1 light gun games! So assume it will work for that.
Good afternoon, asks for the PIN code of the TV, how to find it?MX 8000
Visit a dealer. They gave me the master PIN.
Have you tried playing ps2 on this tv if so how does it look
yeah looks decent.. most ps2 games are 480i though so can look a bit flickery especially at PAL 50HZ looks pretty good running at NTSC 60hz though!
I have got myself a MX4000. The picture is very dim though and I am not sure why.
yeah the MX4000 and MX7000 are known for being a bit dim due to the contrast screen in front of them (which can be removed btw), plus they are old sets now its likely that some of the components might be wearing e.g. capacitor. They should still have a nice picture if its working correctly!
I used to own one of these about a year ago I sold it. I couldn’t handle the flickering. It was giving me a headache. My question is, is there a way to reduce the flickering of crt tvs? Because I just found a smaller version and I really want it. But I need to reduce the refresh flickering.
The flickering might be if you feed it an interlaced signal like 480i some people are more sensitive to that than others. If you feed it a progressive scan signal like 240p in theory the flickering is reduced by half.
yeah I agree it sounds like you might have been watching an interlaced source like a ps2, one thing I find that does help with this is running games at the american NTSC 60hz (480i) output rather than the slower PAL 50hz output (576i) as I personally find the interlacted flickering much more noticable when its a PAL game.
@@RetroFlex1981 it was broadcast tv but still you’re right. It was 50hz because i live in Europe. All the crt’s here are 50hz.
@@RetroFlex1981I just got a MX4002 that’s 50hz - 60hz. I’m so happy but I need help calibrating the image. The color looks somewhat washed out and the sharpness is not like yours.
@@abdelll9737 an MX4002 is basically the same as the MX7000, the equivelent set to the MX8000 is actually the MX4200 so the colours are known to be a bit "washed out" in RGB mode on the older models as it doesnt allow you to adjust the colour setting, only when using composite input and not RGB. Something the later MX4200/8000 set allows you to do.
Fantastic set if it's working well when you get it. Crap if you have to open it up and work inside. It's horrible in there. Whereas a 25-27" Panasonic/Sony has one board and a neck board this thing has like I dunno 7 boards all packed in there tightly interconnected by cables. I wouldn't repair one if my best friend asked me to.
Mx8000 here sw 2.5 and youre sw you can see back of tv sticker
Bro have got geometry settings for best adjust? I own MX800 sw 1.4
Why is s mario world music not like the original?
:D Its a rom hack that replaces the audio with cd quality audio tracks known as MSU1 and can be applied to many games, although you need something like an SD2SNES rom cart to take advantage of it. www.zeldix.net/t1437-super-mario-world-msu
@@RetroFlex1981 i have a 800 in 1 snes cart. Is there a guide on how i setup the files?
@@swardmusic I don’t think an 800 in 1 rom cart will have the necessary hardware to emulate msu1 unfortunately
Would you mind sharing your picture settings under the service meny ?
No problem... here you go:
Offsets Regulation:
Brightness 19
Colour 7
Contrast 25
R-DR 25
G-DR 25
B-DR 36
Black Offset R 0
Black Offset G 0
Soft Clip 0
PWL 10
@@RetroFlex1981 That is the weirdest coincidence in a long time! Redoing my game room these days, and I had just fired up my MX7000 and MX8000 for some tuning when you replied lol. Looks like we've landed on almost the same settings there actually, nice! Thanks for posting!
I think the 7000/8000 are too big. For me the 4000/4200 is the best.
The Beovision 1 is pretty much the same model, so the remote inputs and service menu is identical
Thats good to know. I heard John Linneman @dark1x on the Digital Foundary podcast talking about this set recently and he mentioned the same hack works with regarding to disabling SVM (see my other video). Are there any other major differences with the set vs the MX8000?
@RetroFlex1981 The Beovision 1 doesn't have any major differences, it's essentially the same unit in a different housing and no contrast screen, I have a Beovisons 1, an MX7000 and an MX8000
The 8000 is my personal favourite, mines either a 28" or 32" model, play pretty much all of my SD/4:3 content through it