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How to Disable VisionClear SVM Digital Sharpness Processing on a Bang & Olufsen MX8000 CRT
A Mod / Hack to disable the VisionClear Scan Velocity Modulation (SVM) digital sharpness processing circuit on a Bang & Olufsen MX8000 CRT.
Warning! Please know what you are doing or use someone qualified before working on a CRT as they can carry extremely high voltages. Perform this mod at your own risk.
Circuit-Board.de Forum page talking about disabling SVM cable:
circuit-board.de/forum/index.php/Thread/17570-Hilfe-bei-Bang-Olufsen-MX-4000-6000-7000-8000-Beovision-Beocenter-1-Beitrag-Nr-1/?postID=840111#post840111
Service Manual PDF's:
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Bang & Olufsen MX8000 Retro Gaming CRT Review & Setup Guide
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Bang & Olufsen MX8000 CRT Review, Setup Guide, Service Menu and why I think it is one of the best consumer grade CRTs you can get for Retro Gaming these days! Games demoed on a modified SNES outputting NTSC 60hz and MSU1 audio via an SD2SNES flash cart. Service Manual PDF's: 1drv.ms/u/s!AvXwQ7GFidfhlJRj8p7oeVDSTNXy_w?e=yq6Eq2 Forum talking about disabling SVM cable: circuit-board.de/forum/index...
Bang & Olufsen MX7000 CRT - Retro Gaming TV
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Little demo of what this set looks & sounds like for Retro Gaming. Playing games from a modified PAL SNES in NTSC format using MSU1 Enhanced Audio. This model is fitted with an active speaker system which sounds great and the screen generates some really nice scan lines.

Комментарии

  • @JamesVspec
    @JamesVspec День назад

    Great video this! I have just bought a scart switch and found that it cuts automatically to half a screen. Does anyone know if you can lock the tv somehow to format 2? I’m having to change it every time I switch consoles. Also regarding the geometry is there settings which centre the screen across all consoles n64, ps2, mega drive etc

  • @davethebulb
    @davethebulb 21 день назад

    If you want to see the left border, simply adjust the H Blanking until it appears. ;-)

  • @atariandre5014
    @atariandre5014 Месяц назад

    The MX8000 has a LOT better picture than the MX7000 and now you want to bring it back to 7000 level…. Wel just buy a 7000 then! Totally love my MX8000 as is. You guys are crazy….

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Месяц назад

      @@atariandre5014 lol just the softness of the picture…. Everything else is soo much better like the brightness of the picture, the user interface, being able to adjust the picture in rgb mode etc etc. This doesn’t change any of that just removes the artificial over sharpening of the image.

  • @ARadicalDream
    @ARadicalDream 2 месяца назад

    I have 2 mx7000 and just bought a mx8000. Which one is better?

  • @hectorprojector
    @hectorprojector 3 месяца назад

    SVM is actually an analogue processing and not digital.

  • @dinoklein688
    @dinoklein688 4 месяца назад

    i have this problem were i turn on the tv it goes on for a little while and then it just turns of by itsellf. Do you know any way to fix this?

    • @AmigaVR
      @AmigaVR 4 месяца назад

      Hi this is a common problem I see. The advice I got was to sell it so I did. Bought a different brand CRT for a cheaper price and I am just as pleased 🤘🏻

  • @hectorprojector
    @hectorprojector 7 месяцев назад

    @RetroFlex1981 Which SW version is it on this one in the video?

  • @daveishereuk
    @daveishereuk 7 месяцев назад

    Is this VisionClear on all of the MX8000's? I only ask as mine doesn't give anywhere near as sharp of an image as your comparison shots show (when still connected). I doubt the previous owner disconnected it as he was an old chap (not used it for retro gaming 🤣) and he'd owned the set from new (2003).

  • @daveishereuk
    @daveishereuk 8 месяцев назад

    I know this is a late reply but I've just won one of these off eBay. I pick it up this Saturday. I hope you're still enjoying yours!

    • @abdelll9737
      @abdelll9737 7 месяцев назад

      How’s the geometry?

    • @daveishereuk
      @daveishereuk 7 месяцев назад

      @@abdelll9737 Very good, I had to tweak it slightly as the image was shifted to the left too much. The TV gives such a nice bright and colourful image. Very happy with it.

    • @abdelll9737
      @abdelll9737 7 месяцев назад

      @@daveishereuk Mine is pissing me off. No matter what I do I can’t get the whole image on it when I plug a console to it. And the image is all crooked. Oh well…

    • @daveishereuk
      @daveishereuk 7 месяцев назад

      @@abdelll9737 I take it you've been into the service menu and made some alterations to the geometry?

  • @lovemadeinjapan
    @lovemadeinjapan 8 месяцев назад

    I think the 7000/8000 are too big. For me the 4000/4200 is the best.

  • @MyBrothersKeeper101
    @MyBrothersKeeper101 8 месяцев назад

    Constantly on the hunt for a great CRT going to keep this one in mind thank you for the content

  • @xcntry8908
    @xcntry8908 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you soo much,i disconnected this cable on my Beovision Avant 28 type 8166

  • @pinstripebanditt
    @pinstripebanditt 10 месяцев назад

    cool video I was thing of getting a Bang & Olufsen if I can finde one I live in uk I nits you had a number of scary cables and boxes for them have you got a video demonstrating how and what you used id be intrested also this TV set how well does it handle newer console like xbox 360 ps3 ps2 thanks again for making this video

  • @elessar5848
    @elessar5848 Год назад

    The mx8000 has a better picture, sharper image and better colors than my Sony L420 pvm. It is amazing.

  • @Dave_LNT
    @Dave_LNT Год назад

    I'm going to get my MX7000 this weekend, and i can't wait !! The seller told me that the CRT works perfectly... and that it's hard for him to sold it.

  • @JeroenNijssen
    @JeroenNijssen Год назад

    Does anyone know where to find the G2 calibration.?

  • @Psykofab
    @Psykofab Год назад

    I finally got one yesterday and yes, it is better than my 2 MX7000. For AV i use Decoder 2 set on the channel 1 so i can use the peritel input on the channel 1 (not Vtape or DVD)

  • @Bubba_s
    @Bubba_s Год назад

    That added SVM sharpness doesn't really bother me that much and it doesn't create "ringing" artifacts etc what I can see, so it's ok from the distance I'm sitting. What I would like to do though is turn off the sensor that makes the tv set adjust brightness and contrast according to available light source. I wanna be able to turn it off and adjust it to my own liking but doesn't seem to work to disable that sensor without loosing remote control function?

  • @EvilSam75
    @EvilSam75 Год назад

    Does this work on a MX4000 too?

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      No the mx4000 doesn’t have this circuit and already has the softer image. This only applies to the later models mx8000 and possibly the mx4200.

    • @Alexis_du_60
      @Alexis_du_60 6 месяцев назад

      I checked on my MX4200 (manufactured circa 2004) and there's indeed the same connector on the neckboard that goes to a coil right behind the convergence rings.

  • @sinetwo
    @sinetwo Год назад

    Shout out to crt collective!

  • @Kjetil_MB
    @Kjetil_MB Год назад

    Did it make the screen brighter? On my mx7000 the visionclear sensor dims the screen and brightens it when it recieves more light

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      No. That’s not the same thing you are referring to there that’s something entirely different to SVM which the MX7000 doesn’t have.

    • @Kjetil_MB
      @Kjetil_MB Год назад

      Ah ok. Do to know how to disable that feature on the mx7000 to get a brighter image?

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      Unfortunatley not no. I dont recall the MX7000 having an ambient light sensor though but I could be wrong. I know some people remove the contrast screen to increase the brigtness but I think this somewhat detracts from the look of the set. This was another one of the reasons I upgraded to the 8000.

  • @Mr_Wh1
    @Mr_Wh1 Год назад

    I have got myself a MX4000. The picture is very dim though and I am not sure why.

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      yeah the MX4000 and MX7000 are known for being a bit dim due to the contrast screen in front of them (which can be removed btw), plus they are old sets now its likely that some of the components might be wearing e.g. capacitor. They should still have a nice picture if its working correctly!

    • @lovemadeinjapan
      @lovemadeinjapan 2 месяца назад

      Make sure contrast is at 62, saturation at 62 and brightness around 20-30. By default, contrast is too low. These models do wear out phosphors faster than TV's without contrast screen, so they might have some wear and burn-in.

    • @Mr_Wh1
      @Mr_Wh1 2 месяца назад

      @@lovemadeinjapan Thank you for coming back to my question. Sadly, shortly after asking this question, the TV died. I am not sure if it was from old age, or because I accidently fed my PAL TV a NTSC input for some time. It sounded like it was the high voltage transformer that shorted. So it's sadly dead. But hey, I found a MX4200 for cheap.

    • @lovemadeinjapan
      @lovemadeinjapan 2 месяца назад

      @@Mr_Wh1 All MX models 3500-8000 and 1500 accept both NTSC and PAL.

  • @user-le3eb9jj6s
    @user-le3eb9jj6s Год назад

    does it add lag if its not removed?

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      I dont think it makes any difference lag wise, its still a CRT so it would have to keep up with the image being projected from the electron guns being fired. I certainly didnt notice any either way.

    • @user-le3eb9jj6s
      @user-le3eb9jj6s Год назад

      @@RetroFlex1981 i don't feel any input lag as well but since it's called " digital processing

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      @@user-le3eb9jj6s yeah i wouldnt get too hung up on me calling it "digital" its all getting far too technical, however I am sure there is a digital circuit somewhere that sharpens the image on the fly but it still has to keep up with the image that is being refreshed and drawn on screen so like i say there shouldnt be any lag. Obviously I am just making some educated guesses / assumptions here so I wouldnt put too much trust in what I am saying you would have to test it yourself to be sure :D

    • @user-le3eb9jj6s
      @user-le3eb9jj6s Год назад

      @@RetroFlex1981I think you are right . I just wondered and hoped U maybe knew for certain if it does . Great CRT regardless tho very happy with mine

  • @meatballtime
    @meatballtime Год назад

    If you open up your SCART cable and disconnect pin 8, the widescreen problem goes away. I have an MX4200 that has the same behaviour. For some reason, every SCART cable seems to wire up pin 8 with the voltage that sets 16:9.

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      yeah I was aware of the pin 8 voltage thing, some consoles like the SNES always provide it not sure why they did this!

  • @DrxSlump
    @DrxSlump Год назад

    Does this apply to the Beovision 1 as well?

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      I have heard that it does indeed, apparantly they share very similar internals.

  • @dinoklein688
    @dinoklein688 Год назад

    My bang & olufsen tv keeps turning off. I just found my old bang and olufson beovision mx8000 tv again but when i turn it on the screen starts flickering for a couple op seconds and then just turns itself off. I tried plugging it in and out again but u keep having the same isue. Does somebody now a solution to this problem?

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      Hi! As always you will need someone who knows a bit about troubleshooting electronics etc, and I know that is increasingly hard to find these days but I suspect from what you describe it would be capacitor related as is quite commonly the case with aging electronics.

  • @AmbientAnalogue
    @AmbientAnalogue Год назад

    The Beovision 1 is pretty much the same model, so the remote inputs and service menu is identical

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      Thats good to know. I heard John Linneman @dark1x on the Digital Foundary podcast talking about this set recently and he mentioned the same hack works with regarding to disabling SVM (see my other video). Are there any other major differences with the set vs the MX8000?

    • @AmbientAnalogue
      @AmbientAnalogue Год назад

      @RetroFlex1981 The Beovision 1 doesn't have any major differences, it's essentially the same unit in a different housing and no contrast screen, I have a Beovisons 1, an MX7000 and an MX8000 The 8000 is my personal favourite, mines either a 28" or 32" model, play pretty much all of my SD/4:3 content through it

  • @engimatovega9930
    @engimatovega9930 Год назад

    How does the mx7000 compare to this model ?

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      Better RGB mode colours as they were a bit washed out and couldn’t be adjusted on the 7000 and the 8000 also has a much better menu system and a few others things I’ve already mentioned in this video and the pinned comment. However the 7000 is still a great tv it looks identical to this one and has the same amazing active sound system, they are a lot more common (in the UK anyway) as took me a long time to hunt down an 8000.

  • @israelgonzalezabrego3551
    @israelgonzalezabrego3551 Год назад

    Works for light guns games like Time Crisis II?

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      Yep I can confirm it works with NES and PS1 light gun games! So assume it will work for that.

  • @bensupreme2908
    @bensupreme2908 2 года назад

    Hi what are your settings for playing snes and sega megadrive thank you

  • @dolfholland
    @dolfholland 2 года назад

    Mx8000 here sw 2.5 and youre sw you can see back of tv sticker

  • @lullylew9083
    @lullylew9083 2 года назад

    Fantastic set if it's working well when you get it. Crap if you have to open it up and work inside. It's horrible in there. Whereas a 25-27" Panasonic/Sony has one board and a neck board this thing has like I dunno 7 boards all packed in there tightly interconnected by cables. I wouldn't repair one if my best friend asked me to.

  • @sdfghgtrew
    @sdfghgtrew 2 года назад

    I got the mx 4000

  • @ym6297
    @ym6297 2 года назад

    Hey man, i just bought a mx7000 and i am wondering what settings i need to do for to show my games in a good way. (Nes,Snes,N64 etc) do you have maybe some basic settings for me. Thankyou in advance

  • @Melibond64
    @Melibond64 2 года назад

    Are you there ? I fixed the brightness issue. I can't find anyone to help me with the SOUND issue though. Forums aren't replying to me, for whatever reason (my registered accounts aren't being activated, and team members aren't replying to my emails.).

    • @Kjetil_MB
      @Kjetil_MB 8 месяцев назад

      How did you fix the brightness issue?

  • @Melibond64
    @Melibond64 2 года назад

    Hi . I got an MX7000 as a birthday present , and I love it . I just have a few difficulties with it . I can't find the " SOUND " cue to add to the list when accessing " ADD ? " , and , because of that , I can only play in Mono . I also read from someone that they can access " SOUND " , but mono remains mono ( I also tried tuning it , but , it doesn't change it ) . My other issue is that when I plug in my ps2 through scart , the image is less bright than my android tv box for example , which I have hooked up through a converter to SCART .

  • @crtinkering7323
    @crtinkering7323 2 года назад

    Why does the music in super mario world sound do different? Is this the pal version differnt.?

    • @kamilsebastian8328
      @kamilsebastian8328 2 года назад

      He plays SMW rom with some audio enhancements (in video 9:00).

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      yeah was an MSU1 rom hack. They are available here www.zeldix.net/t1437-super-mario-world-msu . PAL version is exactly the same but runs at 50hz instead.

  • @unrealdevon
    @unrealdevon 2 года назад

    Real nice video! Thanks allot for this information. I wonder tho🤔 it might make the picture to soft? I much prefer the sharpness of the Trinitron. Maybe if i disconnect the cable and then just adjust the sharpness manually on the back?

  • @unrealdevon
    @unrealdevon 2 года назад

    Great video mate! I got a mx8000 myself a few years back. I had to travel like 3hours by train to get it haha. But it's an awesome set for sure. Thanks for making this video! Always fun to watch. Btw is there any chance you could make a monitor guide about MX 8000 calibration? I know each set is unique but still an overview on this topic should be very useful. I'm sure it would help me and others.

    • @prebenjaeger
      @prebenjaeger Год назад

      You carried a Mx8000 on the train? Mad man. Have you figured anything out about calibrating it?

  • @swardmusic
    @swardmusic 2 года назад

    Why is s mario world music not like the original?

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      :D Its a rom hack that replaces the audio with cd quality audio tracks known as MSU1 and can be applied to many games, although you need something like an SD2SNES rom cart to take advantage of it. www.zeldix.net/t1437-super-mario-world-msu

    • @swardmusic
      @swardmusic Год назад

      @@RetroFlex1981 i have a 800 in 1 snes cart. Is there a guide on how i setup the files?

    • @waynosdaboss
      @waynosdaboss Год назад

      @@swardmusic I don’t think an 800 in 1 rom cart will have the necessary hardware to emulate msu1 unfortunately

  • @jesperpersson2738
    @jesperpersson2738 2 года назад

    My MX7000 looks shit with rgb cable, blue looks Grey most colors turns a Little bit of Grey and green, but with composit it looks like it should. But a Little more blue

  • @zairman
    @zairman 2 года назад

    Wish I could get one of these in the states.

  • @paulblakeman4011
    @paulblakeman4011 2 года назад

    Do you need to do this on the Beocenter 1 TV ?

  • @ТарасБибик
    @ТарасБибик 2 года назад

    Good afternoon, asks for the PIN code of the TV, how to find it?MX 8000

    • @lovemadeinjapan
      @lovemadeinjapan 8 месяцев назад

      Visit a dealer. They gave me the master PIN.

  • @TheWishin
    @TheWishin 2 года назад

    I bought the Tv today the only problem are 3 corners are blury and one is shaky in the middle is just perfect i wish i could fix it. Does anyone know how to fix it?

  • @Zogun_85
    @Zogun_85 3 года назад

    I have an MX7000 today, how much would you pay to get an upgrade to the MX8000? The bleak RGB-colors are bothering me a little bit on the MX7000 to be honest, but other than that (and some geometry issues even after calibration) it is quite amazing :)

  • @PapiFed
    @PapiFed 3 года назад

    Is this "trick" also applicable to the MX7000 ?

    • @limited.timestruggle
      @limited.timestruggle 3 года назад

      The point of the video is to bring the sharpness down toward the MX7000 level. No such cable on the MX7000 sets :)

    • @PapiFed
      @PapiFed 3 года назад

      @@limited.timestruggle Thanks for the clarification !

    • @vinnievincent85
      @vinnievincent85 Год назад

      @@limited.timestruggle the mx7000 has a light sensor. If you shoot it with a flashlight it will give more contrast than what is possible in the menu. Do you know if it is possible to make it always use that high contrast?

    • @limited.timestruggle
      @limited.timestruggle Год назад

      @@vinnievincent85 I'm sorry, I ever looked into that feature when I had the MX 7000 sets!

    • @vinnievincent85
      @vinnievincent85 Год назад

      @@limited.timestruggle its fine. I am messaging b&o about a possible solution. Lets see if they can help

  • @Psykofab
    @Psykofab 3 года назад

    Does it work on MX7000 ?

    • @limited.timestruggle
      @limited.timestruggle 3 года назад

      The point of the video is to bring the sharpness down toward the MX7000 level. No such cable on the MX7000 sets :)

    • @Psykofab
      @Psykofab 3 года назад

      @@limited.timestruggle i love my MX7000. Just the wave effect when scrolling is disturbing. It appears the effect is lower on MX8000

    • @limited.timestruggle
      @limited.timestruggle 3 года назад

      @@Psykofab I have two MX7000's and one MX8000, and the barrel-roll effect is indeed nearly rectified on the 8000 set :)

    • @riggles
      @riggles 2 года назад

      @@Psykofab I have a mod on how to fix this for any TV that has barrel distortion as well as bad Left/Right linearity.

    • @Psykofab
      @Psykofab 2 года назад

      @@riggles seriously ? Could you tell me more ?

  • @Tagvillainy
    @Tagvillainy 3 года назад

    Have you tried playing ps2 on this tv if so how does it look

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      yeah looks decent.. most ps2 games are 480i though so can look a bit flickery especially at PAL 50HZ looks pretty good running at NTSC 60hz though!

  • @abdelll9737
    @abdelll9737 3 года назад

    I used to own one of these about a year ago I sold it. I couldn’t handle the flickering. It was giving me a headache. My question is, is there a way to reduce the flickering of crt tvs? Because I just found a smaller version and I really want it. But I need to reduce the refresh flickering.

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      yeah I agree it sounds like you might have been watching an interlaced source like a ps2, one thing I find that does help with this is running games at the american NTSC 60hz (480i) output rather than the slower PAL 50hz output (576i) as I personally find the interlacted flickering much more noticable when its a PAL game.

    • @abdelll9737
      @abdelll9737 Год назад

      @@RetroFlex1981 it was broadcast tv but still you’re right. It was 50hz because i live in Europe. All the crt’s here are 50hz.

    • @abdelll9737
      @abdelll9737 Год назад

      @@RetroFlex1981I just got a MX4002 that’s 50hz - 60hz. I’m so happy but I need help calibrating the image. The color looks somewhat washed out and the sharpness is not like yours.

    • @RetroFlex1981
      @RetroFlex1981 Год назад

      @@abdelll9737 an MX4002 is basically the same as the MX7000, the equivelent set to the MX8000 is actually the MX4200 so the colours are known to be a bit "washed out" in RGB mode on the older models as it doesnt allow you to adjust the colour setting, only when using composite input and not RGB. Something the later MX4200/8000 set allows you to do.

    • @FunkBuster69
      @FunkBuster69 Год назад

      Is it a 50 hertz or 60 hertz I want to use it for retrogaming ?