Bang & Olufsen (B&O MX7000 & MX4000) overview
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2017
- Over the past few months I've had various questions about my B&O's.... So here is a video :-)
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These are the geometry settings I used (these will be tweaked in the future but make a good base setting. You will probably find that they will want altering on your set as well)
I must stress to write down all of your original settings before any adjustments are made, it's easy to get lost!
These are the settings I used in the video:
Brilliance 32 colour 52 contrast 61 tint 32
Rdr 36
Gdr 39
Rcu 33
Gcu 15
BRI 04
COL 04
hfq 26
Hph 55
Ham 22
Vam 30
Vsc 31
Vsh 20
Vli 20
Ewc 16
Ewp 20
Ewt 48
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Nice overview mate! Gameplay at the end looked pretty good!!
Cheers mate, sadly the 'gameplay' was just a demo. I tried talking and playing but failed to actually do the talking part right
Great advice! Nice one. I have an MX7000 with software version 2.0 so I need to jump two prongs inside the tv after taking the back off to access the service menu and it won't allow me to view anything but TV mode while in service menu. It's extremely annoying. People should be aware that there is a Horizontal Position Potentiometer on the back-end of the Yoke assembly so if your HPH - Horizontal position setting in the service menu isn't helping enough then that can be played with. Unfortunately my AV signal goes bad after 10 minutes of being powered on and starts to flicker badly. I think this is down to capacitors so that's gonna be a pain in the arse to fix.
Great video mate, good to know depth etc for future purchasing! Interesting you mentioned about the smaller set being your preferred choice; I had both a 29" and a 20" (poss 21) Trinitron and the picture was better on the smaller set and I preferred to play on that as it seemed to have a sharper image (using RGB SCART).
Hi Darren I imagine it's down to pixel size which makes the picture look more or less sharper... Or I could be making it up.!
I've had 2x both of these sets and I still prefer the 4000. I imagine if you just had the larger 7000 then you'd never know.
Thanks for watching and commenting :-)
Great overview, Russ. I'm well chuffed with my MX8000, one of the best purchases I've made.
Cheers pete! :-)
onaretrotip the mx8000 should have some nasty digital process to the image. You can't obtain a clean pixel image.
why does mx8000 have this
Thanks for the great video. Just got my first MX4000 and your settings worked great. Seems that mine could have a issue with left speaker as only the right one produces sound. Also still need to find how to tune to AV-2 using the remote 😂
Brilliant vid Russ. Just what I needed, been on the look out for a B+O for a while. Not seen any in my area though but ill keep trying. I have a Sony trinitron at the moment but could do with an extra TV.
Check all the auction and second hand sites and setup some alerts etc. Ukvac and jamma+ forums are a good place to check as well :-)
In Denmark they are free. 😁 I have alot of them in stock because they are free 🥳
Very helpful/informative video mate
It's no BVM ;-)
Great vid mate, nice overview :)
Cheers mate, thanks for watching :-)
Nice one mate grate tvs they are b n o I'm love my lcd one I picked up locally last year dose a good job it has scart sockets it's perfect
They are very stylish and also extremely expensive when they were new! Cheers Rich
Bang & Osome look Russ both are very nice crt's and in depth comparison .. Thanks for sharing ;)
Cheers Adam, hope your well mate
Very informative mate 👍
Cheers simon :-)
superb video mate!
Cheers mate, hope yours is all sorted ? :-)
GRUSS Newton the remote I got from eBay wouldn't work so I've found someone to fix my original, fingers crossed!
They are very good TVs as I've always heard and seen, if I was there what I'd get for sure to use playing retro games.
Cheers mike :-)
very cool!! so jealous, due to the tiny hatch into my mancave/loft the only CRT I have up there is a tiny Phillips video monitor (plugged into my A1200)
Would love a nice B&O or Trinitron up there for the ultimate retro experience :)
That's a shame Chris, must be a tiny hatch. The B&O 4000 as you've seen it's fairly slim in comparison to other tvs
In the states the Sony Trinitron is the CRTV to get! Especially the ones that came out last before LCDs! I have one back in the states! Love it!! Great Picture!!
SegaTron yer we had Trinitron in the UK too, however B&O was a top top end option for hi-fi and TV etc.
They do look amazing! Im heading to England next month for 2 years so my plan is to find one of these CRTs to put in the house for my consoles
I had a trinitron at my parents and my original 4000 blinded it to be honest. Check the B&O playlist and you'll find a very very early video showing it
@@GRUSSNewton They are different tube types that both have different looks, Sony use aperture grill while B&O use shadow mask, Sony sets are better for higher fidelity 3D games and watching SD video content (especially animation), B&O are amazing for 8 & 16-Bit 240p, perfect for NES/SNES/SMD/etc, Sony is superb for DC/PS2/GC/XB/etc, I'd also say AG tubes are better all-rounders, whereas B&O/Panasonic/Thomson/Toshiba/JVC (these all have a similar curvy style tube) curved shadow masks are best for 240p arcade/retro content with nice prominent scanlines, they are not too soft and not to sharp just right imo for playing 8/16-Bit console and arcade games.
Of course either CRT type, if it's a good set it will look good regardless, the above is just how I prefer to display games/content, then there is also SD 16:9 aspect, the same rule generally applies there, curvy widescreen shadow mask CRTs for some games/content (some SD 16:9 DVD's look best on these sets) and flat-screen AG widescreens for higher fidelity/resolution games/video, for instance Laserdisc looks awsome on a 32" flat-screen Sony Trinitron, and if you have room you can even have a decent progressive scan widescreen CRT, Sony and Panasonic are the only decent ones for the most part, I'm sure there are some exceptions though.
Thank for your vídeo!
Your personal settings list used in this vídeo would work well in a MX8000 ?? (26”) ???
Or your settings only work well un Mx7000??
Thank you very much
Been after a B&O for quite some time, they never come up in Cornwall/Devon to collect from buyer. An informative vid bud!
Thanks for watching Paul, check your eyes peeled and setup alerts on various websites and forums etc
Paul, have you seen this?
www.gumtree.com/p/televisions-plasma-lcd-tvs/bang-and-olufsen-tv-mx4002/1228371473
Hi Rich, thank you for sharing. Is the B&O local to you?
No, I'm near Oxford. I was looking for a motorised stand for my MX4000 today and remembered that when I read your comment just now!
The 7000 has a light sensor in the top right corner. Try light it with a flashligt and the image will get brighter than the sun (well .. "almost"). Iam trying to find out if its possible to have that high brightness on all the time somehow.
Really helpful video matey, I'm really tempted to pick one up now...is there anyway to check the hours on the tube like you can with bvms etc
Hi mate, sadly not (that I'm aware of)
This is what i found out about the settings so far. The color settings are superb :). But why did you change the Horizontal frequency? Isn't this a standard by the manufacture? I'm not an expert :P so sorry for the stupid question.
RDR = Red Drive
GDR = Green Drive
RCU = Red cut-off balance
GCU = Green cut-off balance
BRI = Brillance preset
COL = Colour preset
HFQ = Horizontal freq
HPH = Horizontal position
HAM = Horizontal amplitude (width size)
VAM = Vertical amplitude (height size)
VSC = Vertical s-correction
VSH = Vertical position
VLI = Vertical linearity
EWC = East west corner
EWP = East west parabole
EWT = East west tilt
got a 4000,got a non gen remote,was a pain to use to at first,great picture and sound.
Sounds like you got it sorted :-)
Welcome. I've searched probably all sources of information on how to enable the de-interlacing option in mx8000. they write so far but I'm of a different opinion. Please tell me if this option instances in mx8000 really ?? Best wishes
Great video Russ! I'm assuming you know that on the MX4000 you need to go to sound menu and select speakers 1 (3 is the default for some reason). And you get much better bass and overall sound. On the MX7000 it makes no difference.
futurematt5 Hi matt, I didn’t know that no but I’ll be trying it out!
Hope you’re well in this crazy time we’re living in at the moment
Hi futurematt, I just bought an MX4000 and trying to find the speaker setting you talk about but I can't find it?
I'm on regular TV, then press menu, then sound, all I get is balance / volume and then on the next page Bass /Treble / Loudness.
Can you point me the right way?
You need to turn that of in the menü. The 1-2-3 is only relevant if you got two active speakers hooked up ( meaning 1 only the Tv is playing - 2 only the two speakers playing and 3 - all of them ) You can turn that off so you dont have to change it. And the Tv will play with full bass.
Hi, thanks for this precious video. May i ask how do u duplicate the image on both video?
Great video can you confirm the mx7000 and mx8000 have a 50hz refresh rate for lightgun games?
Hey Mate, really appreciate your explanation, I have same tv and I plugged a character generator but after 1h it turns off automatically. Can you help me please.
Thank you
Hey! So I have question. I have a mx6000 and a mx4000 and when I play sonic 2 on them (or any game really) I get the blue bars at the top and bottom. I've used your settings for vam and ham and I see your genesis covers up the whole screen as mine doesn't. I even built a Scart cable where pin 8 is disabled so the TV can't start in 16:9 either. Wonder if you have any suggestions what the issue might be? Thanks in advance!
How many tvl does this tv has? Also which is better? This or pvm/bvm?
Great tv that mate, love the stand, can you use light guns on the B & O
You can but the front glass contrast screen can cause problems
i just got an mx4000 w a video terminal remote, that doesn't have the menu button. how does one enter commands w/o it?
Your gonna have to help me find one of these once i get into england! so i can hook up my megadrive i picked up here in germany.
Of course mate.! I'll keeps my eyes open for you :-)
Tell me how you connected 2 TVs to each other so that they show the same picture?
I really need to find someone who service mine. I have a MX4200 which was the last one they did which has meant to have several improvements over the 4000 series, including 2 RGB ports. Its from 2003 so should be good for a few years to come.
Finding someone who is willing to look at CRT's is a challenge I'll admit.
I’ve been repairing and restoring old electronics for years. Drop me a message
i have MX1500 tiny and neat with great picture!
The MX series is really good :-) thanks for watching
now MX6000 coming :)
@@TheLemminkainen I have an MX 6000 and the Geometry isn't that Bad I won't change it
When it says on the sticker SW 1.0 or 1.1 is that then 100% right or can it be different when you check it on the tv?
I have an annoying problem with my MX7000, where the image randomly blurs really bad. Each time it's done it, after a week or so it fixes itself.
I wanna recap it, but have ZERO experience or electrical knowledge and really dont fancy frying myself!
Any advice?
Hello GRUSS Newton!! I want to know if the psx g-con 45 light gun works on B&O mx4000. Do you know that?? Thanks a lot for your videos!👏🏻👏🏻🕹
Jesús Gar hello there and thanks for the kind comments. I’ve tried a few light guns over the years... they do work, however the glass contrast screen will easily deflect the light beam so unless you’re sitting very close and square on to the tv you may struggle.
Hello and thanks for the video. I have a question if you don’t mind: I’m about to buy an MX7000: do you know if it’s multistandard? Most of my console are NTSC ( both Japanese and American ). Thank you
I have Japanese consoles and they all work with no problem. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
My MX7000 has software version 1.1 I haven't tried getting into the service menu yet, but that shouldn't be possible using the remote then, should it?
Apparently mine's had an upgrade because it has 3.10x installed instead of what it says on the sticker. Perhaps it's been serviced somewhere along the line. Thanks for the settings!
Thanks for the software information. Many MX series being sold on Ebay with SW version lower than 4.0. So is that a setting at the time of manufacture and cannot be upgraded by end user? Also would you say that the Beovision MX series is best B&F for retro gaming being CRT and 60Hz (for light gun games). Or is there another B&F that is superior to MX for old school games.
SaminPK I don’t thing the S.W version can be changed, I’ve had a couple of earlier versions and there was a slight difference in picture quality, but the main thing is the access to the service mode via the remote.
Personally I love the smaller MX4000 for retro gaming although the set isn’t fantastic for light gun games due to the contrast screen on the front.
I use my PVM for that (I have a video) but for style and space the 4000 wins in my book.
If the 4.0 on eBay has the remote and is cheap enough, it’s probably worth picking up.
Hope that helps and thanks for the sub :-)
Thanks a lot - its very nice and helpful when channel owners actually care about comments on their videos and reply back to queries. Thumbs up.
I really need advice for picking up a MX 7000 with SW 1.0 for 70 € and 300 km drive back and forth. Would you recommend it or should I pass? I have a nice TV but want to change to a MX 7000. Thank you
I connected my ps3 via rgb scart and keep getting just a black screen. Please help me.
Many people are the opinion that the MX8000 has the best image quality? What would you say to that?
(I‘ve got a Mx4000 in best condition with all the extras.)
Hi you looking at selling any of the 2 tvs?
Any crt will do me as long as I can use light guns when one of mine breaks I might look into getting one
Aye up gav
Alright Russ, I have just picked up an MX4000. Did you use the same settings for both? Check out my pick ups video of it mate, fantastic TV.
SegaSaturnLad yeah mate pretty much both settings with minor tweaking. It’s on my watch list 👍
Hello posting a comment here as there's no way of DM you now. Can the MX4000 run at 60Hz? The back of the TV implies it cant, it only says 50Hz where most tvs say 50Hz/60Hz
StuRoRo yes mate it can
I also have the Japanese Sega Saturn.
In the Netherlands you can get the B&O TV'S for free....
People no longer wants to lift those heavy tv's
And they are happy that you will do that for them.
So I have 1 mx3500 1 mx4000 with electric stand and 1 mx7000
And perhaps I will get a Beovision Avant for free this week...
True, mine was free. Apparently no one wanted it. Can't understand why because it's a beautiful piece of technology.
Please send me one in Ukraine. its very hard to find mx beovision 4002/4020 here
1 question : mx7000 50hz only +(superfamicom 60hz) on tv = 60hz or 50hz ?
petit thanh Le the 7000 should be 50/60hz but for some reason it's just 50 then I imagine the SFC wouldn't work with the tv
What about the audio? Is there much difference between them in terms of quality?
Personally I prefer the small 4000
Hi Gruss, I have recently obtained a MX7000, works great apart from the screen sometimes (say every ten minutes or so) going black for just a second (not longer) - almost like it is refreshing or being turned off and on extremely quickly. Do you know what might be causing this? Is this a symptom that it is starting to die?
HorgothTheRelentless does it do it with every console?
@@GRUSSNewton Yes, every source I throw at it.
Hi GRUSS. I picked up an MX4000 today (sw2.0 so not able to adjust geometry) however when i press menu I only see program list and setup and within these menus there is no way to adjust sound, picture or tuning. Any ideas?
I havet the same problem. Searching for a fix now
Did you figure it out? I'm having the same problem
i can buy the 7000 series with firmware 4.7 with remote 60 euros do i buy it or not
scroeffie sounds good to me! 👍
Hi
Looking to pick up MX 7000 locally. Sticker on the back says SW1.0. Does that mean it's no good. I'm ideally looking to play lightgun games. Is it best just to find an old sony or toshiba crt?
Think I replied last week via facebook?
Yes, thanks Gruss.
I won on eBay a MX4000 with SW 4.7 but unfortunately I can't pick it up yet what with Covid/travel restrictions/lockdown etc. I'm desperate to pick it up!!
Congrats! 4.7 is pretty late as well 👍
Sorry i'm new to it, what is SW ?
@@Malheirods software
I have an issue with my mx7000, and I'm hoping someone can help me with it. I've bought an RGB SCART cable to go with my SNES to improve its visuals on the tv (even though it's pretty darn awesome as it is only using component), but when plugging it in using AV1 and the V-Tape "mode" the image comes out really dark. The sound comes out fine but the image is pitch black. However, when accessing the menu i on V-tape mode, the image pops back in view until you exit the menu, and it again turns completely black. I've seen others having the same issue and asking the same question online, but I've failed to find an answer to the problem. Does anybody know what causes this, and is there a remedy for it?
Hmm have you got another console you can try? PAL scart lead on a PAL machine?
Actually, I just solved the problem, and it was just me being ignorant. I'm from Sweden, so I'm running a PAL system and I bought the cable on an online auction site where the seller said that it was a PAL RGB cable. However, when I picked up another B&O set from a retro gamer, I asked him about it. He said that the issue was that the cable was an NTSC cable, and then proceeded to sell me an actual PAL cable, and it worked great. So it all came down to me not realizing it was an NTSC cable. The thing I couldn't understand was why I managed to get a picture when pressing the menu button on the remote. As it turns out, when doing so in V-Tape mode, the TV automatically switches to composite mode rather then RGB and you get a picture. So there we have it. Thanks for the answer though :)
I think the dark picture is due to some extra resistors in the cable. I had the same issue but after i removed those the picture was perfect.
+Caladas could you explain so i could understand? i use PS1 on MX6000. And Aldo have the dark color/nice color when pressing menu.
The thing with SNES RGB cables is that they differ between PAL (Europe/Australia) and NTSC (North America/Japan) regions. The difference being that the PAL systems does not require resistors in the RGB scart cable, where the NTSC systems do. That means that (as I did) if you use a PAL system with an NTSC cable with resistors in it, the picture will not get through the resistors in the cable, and you will get no picture. Unless you press the menu-button, then the signal will change to a traditional composite signal, and the image will get through. I am not an expert on this though, nor on PS1's, but I recall there are differences in signals between PAL and NTSC regioins there aswell. I suggest you check out the "My Life In Gaming" channel here on youtube, and watch their episode on PS1 (ruclips.net/video/f7fCTHu99bk/видео.html), there they talk a bot about RGB options for the PS1. Also I suggest you buy a good cable from "Retro-gaming cables" (www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/) and make sure it's for the correct region for you PAL/NTSC. And as a last thing if you run a NTSC console, make sure the TV supports 60Hz, or I fear it will not be able to display unmodified NTSC signals.
Hope that helps :)
Do you have any video on how to connect the video game?
The games console?
Is it possible to use this tvset without original remote?
Yes but your pretty limited
Would you recommend this TV for PS1 and PS2 games?
I would yeah but there not very good with light gun games due to the contrast screen
@@GRUSSNewton I have the mx7000. So this tv also will not work well with Dreamcast light gun..??? :(
@@Kapojos don’t think I’ve ever tried it with the DC gun however I know the contrast screen doesn’t help.
Just an excuse to buy a PVM then (see my other vids)
Hi. I got an MX7000 as a birthday present, and I love it. I just have a few difficulties with it. I can't find the "SOUND" cue to add to the list when accessing "ADD?", and, because of that, I can only play in Mono. I also read from someone that they can access "SOUND", but mono remains mono (I also tried tuning it, but, it doesn't change it).
My other issue is that when I plug in my ps2 through scart, the image is less bright than my android tv box for example, which I have hooked up through a converter to SCART.
Hey you should be able to change that in the menu of the tv.
@@Lennart942 I've tried that, and more. If you read my comment, I explained how the option is nonexistent in my library of cues or settings I can change. And, the one place where the mono setting can be found, it doesn't change no matter what I press.
@@Lennart942 I don't understand what made you think that telling me that would help me.
@@Melibond64 i diddent write that to annoy you, but to help you. I just tried it on My old Mx 7000 witch i havent used for 14 years. I was wrong, there is no option in the tv menu, where you can change it. Sorry. But i can se it automatic changes to stereo on my tv.
@@Lennart942 I was annoyed, but, I was also confused, and, I genuinely didn't understand what made you think that telling me that would help me, since, if you'd read my comment, you'd see that I already tried that, and, that it isn't helpful to tell me that. I understand now though* that it was just a quick thought that you thought could help me, without making full sense of my original comment. Anyway. I'm glad yours works. I've given up on mine. Forums are having issues with newly created accounts*, so, I'm not being able to ask for help there, and, I tried asking everyone that has videos related to the MX7000 on youtube. Maybe I'll go back to using it with mono anyway, who knows.
Great video! Would software version 3.1 be ok or is it too old?
Yardley I wouldn’t be sure if you could gain access to the service menu through the remote with that software version.
You probably could access it manually by removing the back and fitting a switch across the service pins but it’s just a bit of a pain.
Hope that helps
Thanks, I was wondering if you could help me choose the right stand for the MX4000 between the two pictured in the link. I think the one on the left has the right bracket but I'm not sure. ibb.co/dKZyKd
Yardley yeah the left one is the motorised stand (I have that same stand) great for putting the tv in the corner then you can set it to auto turn etc when you turn the tv on and off
GRUSS Newton thanks, I figured that one was the correct one. The other bracket looks like it’s for a higher set.
Do you have PS1 and N64 to try with this?
stuffums no N64 but I do have a ps2 I use with my CRT's
I have one the mx 7000 and i want to sell it to buy a new computer. Its with the remote and fully working. How much euros should i get for it?
it really depends were you live and how fast you want to sell it. If you live in a big city there will be many people hunting that model, but it's a niche market, not so many potential buyers in a small village. They are more common in Britain and Northern Europe too, so they go cheaper. I'm trying to get one (or Beovision1/MX8000) in Madrid, and I have seen sales of that model from 50€ to 200€ during the last year, usually over 100€ at second hand apps, but looks like they don't sell nearly as fast over 120€.
@@elbitxo5945 oh damn thanks. I listed kt about 5 days ago for 80 euros but got no reaction. Sadly i dont have the stand where the tv sits on top of
Would you recommend taking off the contrast screen my friend? Either to clean it or to leave it off. Lee
How heavy is the MX7000 without the stand?
tfgward i would say approx 30-40kg
It can be lifted on your own but probably better if there’s 2 of you
@@GRUSSNewton Thank you
Thank you for the review. I just got my hands on MS6000 (not MX). Its sadly SW 1.2 . Whats even worst i cant access TV menu. Picture has slight black bar on right side of the screen trough RGB on my PS1. While Megadrive (Genesis) has both bars on right side and bottom (testing with PAL games on PAL console). I never encountered this problem back in 90s when i tried these consoles on multiple CRTs. They always fit the screen with no overscan. If i adjust the screen for PS1 it wont be enough of an adjustment for Megadrive. Almost as if it is wrong aspect ratio. Any help would be appreciate it.
Anyone has some good settings for a mx8000?
unrealdevon write yours down and then try the 4000/7000 ones. I doubt they will be perfect so a bit of trial and error is required to get it how you want it
GRUSS Newton
I was going to but then i saw that the settings are named differently.
And to me this is next to impossible.
I took a photo of the geometry values on the tv.
I will post them later, hopefully some kind soul can help.