Resident Evil 5: RE Retrospective
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Well, we have finally got to the boulder punching phenomenon that is Resident Evil 5. A game that is not afraid to wear its influences on its shoulder. Is it possible for a game to followup the success of Resident evil 4???? Let's find out on the Resident Evil Retrospective! 
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I'll always fondly remember playing it coop with a South Korean exchange student living with my family
We couldn't talk properly, but we new how to play.
The real universal language
Avalanche Reviews That sounds cool
That is so cool! 😄
Thats awesome!
Wow that's a really good memory
Sheva's devotion to Chris seemed less jarring than Leon's trust in Ada in RE2. He's known her for like an hour and is all like "No! I know Ada! She would never do that!"
Leon was also a horn-dog in his early twenties.
@@jsward96 sheva was around the same age as leon in re5
Ikr
Leon's also just a kid in re2, albeit 21 years of age but most 21 year olds don't have that much experience, though everyone IS different.
There's an age gap between Sheva and Chris so her devotion to him is possible. Hes grizzled and hardened from fighting for so long.
I will always remember Playing this game with my mom as a 9 year old she would always tell me “Aim for the head” and save “the shotgun for the boss”
Talk about real life advice!
Haha I could see these quotes on flowery hd backgrounds for mother's day.
Son, aim for the head.
Jesus loves you and died and rose again for your sins
Until you unlock the infinite RPG….
Then it goes from “save the shotgun for the boss” to “what boss?”
your mom is a G
I like Chris getting buff . It makes sense in the story . I've heard a youtuber "the4thsnake" say "Realising he will never match Wesker's speed , he made sure that if he did get some hits in , they'de be damn good ones ."
Lol never understood why people got upset that human being whom is capable of exercise got buff over a decade time gap.
Playing devil's advocate (I LIKE buff Chris), it might be that between Revelations and this game, there isn't a chance for Chris to workout to the point of becoming that buff what with being a top-ranking BSAA agent running around all over the world. Of course to that I'll say, "dude, who CARES, buff dudes are like busty yet thin women, they're HOT! Let both genders be hot!"
G1ingy He’s still pretty buff in Revelations so there was time I think.
@@EazyLai it's just that the deltoid and his biceps brachi is so huge lol
Yeah and his work is to kill monsters. I repeat, MONSTERS! You don’t fight those 10 ft zombies or BOW with a slim body and no muscle at all. When compare to Leon, Chris focuses on brute force while Leon focuses on his agility so there is a reason why those two are build differently
My theory for Chris being such a muscle monster has always been that ass kicking he received by Wesker at the end of Code Veronica, Wesker made him feel helpless and in feeling so helpless it made him push his body to it's limit to try and compensate. It makes sense to me and made it easy to write off those arms lol
You are literally the only person I’ve ever heard who likes putting the healing items on the cpu controlled character. I wanted to yank my hair out any time I’d barely go into caution and sheva would blow an aid spray
I don't know why, but it just worked for me. I never ran out of healing items this way.
I always made her a glorified grenade pouch lol
If you dont get hit she won't heal you
@@AvalancheReviews To be fair, judging by few times you were damaged during the gameplay in this video, so you probably played on amateur so that's why you never ran out of healing items.
count me in as well
Sheva's shoulder tattoo means 'hero' in Swahili.
This is the first Resident Evil game where all previous games are referenced, in so much as upon completing the game, a history of Resident Evil is unlocked detailing the past 70 years. This means that it is finally explicitly confirmed that the survivors of Resident Evil (1996)/Resident Evil (2002) were Chris, Jill, Barry, Brad and Rebecca, and that the level "Umbrella's End" from Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles (2007) is officially considered canon.
This game was the first Resident Evil to be released on the PS3 and Xbox 360.
Technically, when it came out, this was Resident Evil 7, because when Resident Evil Zero (2002) chronologically became the first one in the series, this made Resident Evil: Code: Veronica (2000) the fifth and Resident Evil 4 (2005) the sixth. With the later release of Resident Evil: Revelations (2012) (which takes place between Resident Evil 4 and 5), this game technically became Resident Evil 8.
The returning enemies of Resident Evil 4 (2005)'s new line of enemies are: chainsaw users, Gatling Gun users and a giant creature.
The first appearance of Sheva Alomar.
First Resident Evil game presented in Dolby TrueHD 5.1 surround sound.
This is the first Resident Evil game where you earn PlayStaton 3 trophies and Xbox points for accomplishments.
The infinite ammo unlocked in the main game isn't transferable in the "Lost In Nightmare" and "Desperate Escape" scenario.
This is the first time that Jill Valentine is seen as a blond with a different hair style, instead of a brunette with her hair down to the sides. The same change in appearance was carried over into the movie adaptations of the series.
Like the other playable characters in the game, Albert Wesker can also perform physical attacks on stunned enemies. One of these attacks is called "Tiger Uppercut" - a reference to a special move from the Street Fighter series, a game also developed and published by Capcom.
This is the first main Resident Evil game where the subtitles are enabled during cut-scenes. All the previous games had none or a very limited amount of subtitles.
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Also the main reason Chris got so dang buff and strong was, rewatch the ending of Code Veronica when Chris and Wesker fight you can see Chris just gets tossed around and nearly dies from a few punches. A few years later when he and Jill encounter him at the Spencer estate Chris can kind of hold his own now. So it makes sense for Chris to constantly keep upping his strength as he wants to avenge the death of his fellow Stars comrades and Jill. The man's got a lot of anger issues I think I would too if I watched all my friends die from viral infected freaks and one of them still alive causing more outbreaks and problems
Also considering the time period, it's been like a decade between Code Veronica and RE5, so even without steroids, a person could totally put on a s*** ton of muscle mass in that amount of time.
@@sgtvirus6696 good point and even if he is on steroids so? In the real world most actors and Olympians are on steroids so it's really not far fetched
@@SuperCuttyBlackSow True.
Jill "The Sandwich" Valentine
I had to pause the vid, that cracked me up too much, lmao
Ha!!! My jokes rarely land, but when they do!
I laughed so hard I woke my housemates.
I had to pause when he said 5 took place a decade over 4
The funniest thing to me about this game (and your review of it, since you do the same thing) is that they just keep referring to Africa like it's a country and not a huge continent filled with different governments, cultures, and ethnicities.
A couple of people pointed that out to me. I think it's just an American thing. When we learn about other countries in school, it's always just surface level shit.
The problem is; relative to the 1st and 2nd world the 3rd world doesn't get nearly as much journalistic coverage or written/filmed works in general. Even the western nations that had colonies there dont want you to look into it too much. As a westerner, you have to have. an overriding interest in Africa to suss out the worthwhile and significant knowledge. Just ask any westerner about mansa musa or the Songhai empire and observe their befuddled expression. Dark is the best word for Africa its a dark spot on many maps of people's knowledge and if you take the time to look into it, it only gets darker with how excessively horrible and sad most of the knowledge you find is.
It’s definitely an American thing. I grew up in a heavily Chinese neighbourhood and let me tell you a lot of Chinese and Japanese people hate it when Americans use “Asian” to group them together. Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Korean, Laotian and Philipino people don’t like being lumped together as one big collective group. Another dirty secret is, there is a ton of racism in between the different Asian countries too.
@@AvalancheReviews you understand you’re allowed to learn outside public school right.
@@samlibutti the guy just pointed the issue out, he never said that people shouldn't learn anything new once they're done with the school...
Lost in nightmare is terrifying, the executioner when jill is stuck in the spike room
Still the best-selling RE Game to date.
The racism controversy really paid off
Rode the hype of RE4 to the bank.
Best selling doesn't mean much. If that's the case, minecraft is infinitely better than all REs combined
AydarBMSTU Duh, no one’s insinuating that sale figures equals quality
@@SubjectZ3RO stop pretending like this comment doesn't imply anything with its statement, stoner
I'm unsure that Sheva's devotion is too out of touch with reality. Remember, these two are "soldiers" going through a pretty fubar situation. Circumstances like that usually forge deep and lasting camaraderies fast. Even normal people who come out of something horrible together end up with a deepened connection. Unless somehow they hated each other from the get go and despite that somehow miraculously managed to get out of said hellhole together in one piece, but that seems like reaching. Also, this is a videogame. There isn't a ton of time for character development. You have to rush things a little.
That's true. I guess I just expected a little more development, but in their defense, Capcom added her at the 11th hour so people would stop calling them racist.
Yeah.... well if I went thru something so horrible to where I could say.... Damn.... We Almost got killed by those things back their.... So.... Wanna do it!? Cause I mean, we might never get outa here alive! ;D
It's not uncommon for soldiers in the military to view each other as brothers and sisters.
Woohoo trauma bonds!
RE5's alternative title; Chris "John Cena" Redfield: The Meatening
Fucking fitting!! HAA
Re5: steroid edition.
More like the rock chris is huge in this game would make cena look small.
@@sallydavies9253 I once thought Rock was MEGA HUGE after his performance in Pain & Gain. But when he wrestled Cena they were the same size.
Pain & Gain came out in 2013 and rock fought Cena back to back 2012-2013.
Cena was big too & was known for his canon like arms and big chest plus was deemed one of the strongest in the locker rooms.
He would make a fabulous Buff Chris Redfield
I like Chris "Boulder Biceps" Redfield myself
This was my first RE game as a kid and I don't regret it. It was interesting enough to get me to play all the older games and it was a hell of a ride!
I’m in my early 20s and this comment made me feel real old
@@chaisewhitlock1717 hell yea mines was 2 but I was born in 01 so i basically played 2 3 n 4 on my grandma’s ps1 n 2 good memories
I just started playing RE5 recently (even though I'm a long time fan of the franchise) and really enjoy it. Considering all the hatred it gets, I was surprised about how enjoyable it is. I love hearing your honest and positive opinion of the game!
I had the same experience! Really not sure why people hate it so much.
From what I’ve seen most people who hate re5 are big fans of re4
@@ryder9562 Yeah, you're right there. The only legitimate complaint or critique I often hear about Resident evil 5 was that it tried too hard to be Resident evil 4. A first level that throws your character into a 'hold off and survive' event against a large mob of enemies? That is almost a carbon copy. A semi-common chainsaw wielding enemy that one shots you. A mines level, an ancient more puzzle focused setting (Castle in RE4 vs ruins in RE5). I really wish I could have seen what the single player version of this game looked like before all this racism backlash. I wonder how much changed.
Anthony Johnson RE5 sold the best, doesn’t mean it’s the one people like the best
Anthony Johnson RE5 sold extremely well to people who had either never played the series before, or to people that love RE 4 more than any other game in the series. If you’d never played a game in the series before, sure you’d love this game and think it’s amazing. However a shit ton of the people that bought this game were hardcore RE4 fanboys, who were then disappointed by it. Once again, just because it sold better than any game in the series, doesn’t mean it’s the most widely loved
I still play mercenaries to this day on PS4. Best part of the game.
Good thing I’m not the only one who actually really enjoyed this game. Good video 👍🏼
You're definitely not alone
Back in the days on the 360 I've finished it like 10 times more.
Now I bought it on steam for the pc. It's still a gold game for me. It's really immersive.
Definitely not, I loved the campaign and mercenaries was some of my happiest memories of the ps3
I mean it's a good game. It can be really tense and fun at times. However a lot of people didn't like it because it wasn't very faithful to what people expected from RE.
@@AtemiRaven People need to think about what is the downfall first, hmmm, RE 4.
I've heard the racist thing before, and its premise isn't even true.
"The game is racist because you play a white guy and all your enemies are black guys"
This isn't true. Even discounting named evil characters, the standard enemy type has white variants. Find any mob in the game during gameplay, and you'll find white enemies in that mob. Its not even very hard. Its like 7 out of 10 enemies are black, and the rest are white. Its almost as if its a reflection of the population demographics of the setting.
Think of it, a white guy is enslaving and forcing a bunch of black people into an army. It's premise wasn't racial but it can be.
@@TheUltimateNavigator1 not really, because his goal was Global Saturation of the uroboros virus. Then in all the other resident evil games. The majority of the Zombies were white. Wesker ain't racist cause he hates all people equally.Black White Asian alike. If you got a butt Wesker wants to shove a virus up it. In resident evil 4 They were all white people,I don't remember a single person of any kind of color. Spanish are European so they're white,What makes them different on this side of the Hemisphere. Is that They were originally Inca,Aztec,Mayan,and etc. They're mixed so "they don't count as white" So everyone that was white was an infected and had to get wiped. Then remember Wesker killed his own Father as well,his own team mates, the white woman that was in love with him. plus there were so many white infected,like the blonde girl in Kijuju that you get the pendant from. Ya know the one in the cut scene that was kidnapped. In short It's premise can only be racist if you're looking for it to be racist,and that would be a real stretch given Wesker's history he hates humanity as a hole so race has nothing to do with it.
@@skylarmccloud4080 I know. I'm not saying I think of it being racist but I can see why they may think of it being racist. Imagine never playing a resident evil and then you hear about 5 in 2008 and basically Wesker enslaving a bunch of African Americans and you killing them as Chris, I can see why they thought that.
It isnt racist beacuse the country is in afrika were black people are but in the other games there ar white people and u ar killing them so it is the only games with black and no comments in the about the skin or weak. So its not racist
Why are they wearing masks and seem generally more cultural than your typical modern West African as zombies? Does reverting the body to a braindead primitive zombie state also revert africans back to savage mask wearing, fire spinning cultural stereotypes?
"I'm from south Florida. This is my commute from work" boy if that isnt the truest thing I've ever heard.
-Florida boy here as well
Ha! Good to know some people who watch this video knows what's up.
Also from Florida and the uroboros crocodiles were one of my favorite animal enemies in a game ever
I think this game it's fun to play in cooperative, i play it with my brother and it was pretty good.
I'm currently playing this game with my sister and we are having a boat load of fun playing it
Jill “The Master of Unlocking” Valentine.
Best damn unlocker on planet earth!
I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you for doing this excellent series. New thoughts and high quality content is always worth commending, and you have done excellent!
Thank you very much! It's awesome to see that people are really liking these videos.
Just wanted to say that your retrospective of this game is what gave me the inspiration to replay the game. I appreciate the heck out of everything the developers did to make this game, from the choreographed cutscenes to the beautiful visuals. I am thoroughly enjoying going through this game again with my brother who, this is his first Resident Evil game.
Love your retrospectives!
You're retrospectives are very well produced. Surprised you don't have more views. Your channel has become a "hidden gem" for me. Keep up the good work.
Those are some kind words. Thank you, I will!!
I'm definitely surprised by your opinion on RE5, but in a good way. RE5 seems to get way too much hate for being a pretty solid overall game, but I definitely felt RE4 had better pacing and better level design (offering more variety, and more fun sandbox-like "arenas"). I think the partner system in RE5 makes the game far more frustrating, especially when Sheva's AI can't seem to handle professional mode at all. Mercenaries mode was wonderful, though. The little bit of tweaks to RE4's combat really shine in this mode. Because of Mercenaries, RE5 was easily my most played game on the 360. Hey, remember when RE games offered major unlockable game modes in the base game? RE7 certainly forgot...
As for your social commentary... I was surprised you included it because of how divisive it could be to your viewerbase. I agree, though. RE5 clearly isn't a racist game for anyone who plays it.
Anyway, RE6 is next. I'm excited to hear your thoughts on it. I have trouble predicting your opinions in this retrospective, which is what is keeping it so exciting for me!
Ha! Yeah, I tend to be all over the map with my odd ass tastes. Let's hope I can keep you guessing till the end!
as much as I loved re7 I always felt like Capcom not adding anything extra after you bet the game(without counting madhouse) was a big letdown, yes you get some arcade modes with the dlcs, but still, IMO one of the best parts of resident evil games are those extra game modes that you get, either mercenaries or raid mode or battle game/extreme battle
Good comment here, and it's so funny to see you mention how this was your "most played" 360 game due to Mercenaries. MAN, LET ME TELL YOU - I was still living at home when this came out for 360, and I would play mercs so much I shit you not I would catch my mom humming the merc's level music. And my mom hates videogames. So funny.
Also, playing Professional with AI Sheva ruined it for me - I had to stop at the Jill/Wesker fight because she would get one-shot time and time again.
I bought RE5 for PC on a steam sale and went through it two more times, and mercenaries and mercs reunion is simply amazing especially when you play No Mercy. Cobra striking majinis for dayyyyys "hheeeeuurgh- yeeeuuuh!"
KeeSomething lol wut? I beat the game on pro by myself twice because i was fed up with the morons on live.
Again how the FUCK are you supposed to be afraid unless you're alone?
There is a cannon reason to Chris' new body builder physique in RE5. It was after his last confrontation with Wesker, in which he was thrown around like a rag doll, and to his knowledge, cost Jill her life. Wracked with guilt over that last battle he started preparing for the day when he would face Wesker again. Hence the big muscles.
I love re5, the story is well written and it's a great send off to the Umbrella saga in my humble opinion. Great video and incredible research as usual.
I actually like Resident Evil 5. Yeah, it's not as survival horror heavy but the story feels like a true, finale to the Umbrella saga started in RE1. Plus I like co-op games and my friends and I had a blast with the game. In all honesty, this game gets hated on for asine reasons IMHO, but to each their own. Oh and also I was super PO'd about the 'racist' commentary that followed after the first trailer. Given how bad that crap is now, yeah it was a sign of things to come and should have been called out and quashed.
Yeah, if we would have only known how bad this stuff would get, back when we had a chance to squash it.
Avalanche Reviews how would you have squashed it then ?
It’s also more of a finale than resident filler 6
This game is so much fun, it looks amazing, plays great, and is packed full of extra features :)
And boulder punching with a fist..
Don't forget the multiplayer! 😁
Damn right!
RE5 is my favorite video game of all time, I am so glad someone else can say positive things about it. I was convinced people were band wagoners or just were too bad at the game and controls to fully enjoy it. (I honestly believe Capcom should make a mercenaries exclusive title like they did for the 3Ds)
Yea, I wish they would make a high quality Merc standalone. Use the RE Engine, give each character voice lines. Lots of unlockables and customization, lots of weapons, etc. Would be sick.
I was never expecting re5 to be my favorite, especially after playing re1 remake, 0 and 4. But here we are
8:45 in Sheava's defense she was Chris's liaison and She was actually the first of the 2 to suggest and i quote Sheva word for word "We should both get the hell out of here" after they defeated el gigante. But was convinced by Chris who wants to keep going to find out what happened to Jill, Sheva would even re affirmed with Chris if the Woman in the Data file was Jill as she was very adamant initially they should both leave the place thinking they were over there head. However with Chris wanting to continue the both decide to press on anyways as they were realizing they were at that point knee deep in something much bigger and the fact Sheva saw it as her people who were dying here and saw that its best she go with Chris given the situation there in opts to work with Chris to get to the bottom of it.
So I wouldn't say its unrealistic its just outside of narrative it looks that way.
I miss the old ways of RE like everyone else but damn, I love this game! Me and a friend have played through it several times over the years. I don't know how you can say you love RE4 and, in the same breath, say you hate this one. That doesn't compute.
RIGHT?!?!?! I agree completely! The old games were the best, but if you're going to play that style of RE game, 5 is the clear winner so far.
In RE4 you had to rely on yourself and yourself only (with only a few exceptions) while in RE5 you spend the whole game with a (AI or not) buddy helping you out, the atmosphere was very different (RE5 is pretty moody but I'd argue that RE4 is a lot more grim looking in its environment, or at least it's very different), it had one of the best inventory system of all time, controls that were intended to be a bit stiff like the older games to add tension when you're chased by ennemies (the strafing changed that), it had yellow herbs that gave a nice feeling of progression, the marchand (and its weird minigame), typewriters and regeneradors
While I love RE4 I also like RE5 a lot, I'd say it's one of the best coop game of all time imo and I will always defend it but for very different reasons and I personally can see why some people didn't like it
@bigevilworldwide1 RE4 doesn't take place in an Umbrella mansion nor in an urban city tho
i had a lot of fun with 5 and played the hell out of it just as much as 4 but i like 4 better overall. i like the creepier setting and enemies more. 4 was also significantly longer and added separate ways for ada which was also decently long. i definitely liked the mercenaries in 5 better though. it took me years of playing on and off to get an ss ranking with every character on every stage and it was satisfying as hell when i finally pulled it off.
@@Igneeka there is a castle that is very similar to the mansion aswell as a military base island with an underground bunker.
If i was alone on a island for the rest of my life i would bring this game i played more than 400 hours plus in all the ports put together fun game and my god playing with a friend is so much fun
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i have vague memories of being a REALLY little kid watching my dad play this. im too scared to play it on my own now but i wanted to see something on it for the nostalgia. thanks for the vid its great.✌
That same fear might later turn into a pure passion for the series, *Because* of the nostalgia & memories. I was just like you, I had distinct memories of my dad playing a resident evil but it was the remake for the GameCube back in the early 2000’s. It scared the shit out of me. Now I’m 26 and I love Resident Evil. And the fear it once gave me, I can look back with a smile. These games are sick!
To me this game is an absolute masterpiece. The music the charactor models, the environments, for someone that has lived in Africa this game nailed the environments. Not to mention the dlc, the dlc was crazy especially desperate escape where you get to see Jills incredible assets
People don't like it, because it is almost like RE 4. Even though RE 1, RE 2 and RE 3 were so similar too. Also RE 5 was the game that went all Action. RE 4 was part horror/part action.
For me, the horror in 4 was lessened by the intentional humor. Don't get me wrong, 5 has a lot of stuff that takes away from the horror, but it's not as extreme in my opinion.
I disagree. Re4 is camp/action/with some horror elements sprinkled in, and basically kickstarted the series to an all action format. Re5 , as the video states has better story , better characters, better antagonist and just has that creepy vibe. Obviously due to it being next gen has better graphics and smoother controls. Don't get me wrong re4 is a great game ,(even if it's a tad too long ) and it gave a series a shot in the arm it needed . I just think Re4 gets blown too hard.
@trump 2020 fair assessment
@Doomguy Same with 5. How is that bad?
@@kingkold i would argue that re3 was the start of the more action based gameplay. even though it had the fixed cameras it got much faster, added counters and dodges, gave you a lot of powerful weapons and plenty of ammo. in some ways 3 feels more action based than 4 to me.
Funny, I also really like 5. I played the heck out of it on Xbox 360, collecting every emblem and buying and upgrading every weapon to the max. The capability to continue from any completed level at any time really gave it a long life IMO.
Yeah, I took advantage of that to have a little fun with the late game weapons, in the earlier stages.
13:25 I still remember me and my girl laughing are asses of when we played the game and that part came on. The CROSS JUMP is so extra, loved it.
And as always, GREAT VIDEO
Recently started playing 5 for the first time and really enjoying it. I especially enjoyed the deeper dive into characters like wesker, Jill, etc.
I've been replaying this with a friend recently, and we have had a mostly fun time. QTEs are still the worst part imo, but for how cheap the game is now, there are some good hours of co-op there.
I enjoyed it. The graphics were awesome for the time, too.
I love RE5, the story especially. To actually see and understand a bit more about the progenitor virus and how it hails from Africa was so cool. Sheva is so underrated as a companion and I hope to see her again in another game someday. And finally I was so for Chris becoming this huge hunking mass of muscle, he’s my second favorite RE character, Jill being my favorite.
Yeah, I really liked Africa as a setting. It just felt right, and all the stuff about how they originally got a hold of the progenator virus, was cool as all hell.
16:01
I DIDN'T hate 5. I just thought that 4 had a better atmosphere, and I had more fun with it.
Shylok yes! Exactly
Well RE4 is better in many ways, gameplay included. RE5 is only better in graphics department (technically, NOT in art direction)
Re4s goofy nature really ruins its atmosphere
AydarBMSTU how is is better gameplay wise? They are literally the same
@@DrowsyBean ?
I think the hate stems from the fact that it always takes itself seriously as a horror game with a deep plot, but has dumb scenes that are about as hammy are re4. I cant get emotionally attached to the isolation and journey, when every action involves an unneeded frontflip or over the top action set piece (like an army of motorcycle riding zombies chasing you while mounted on a turret). I also feel Sheva was underdeveloped, even though I really like her.
Exactly. At the beginning of the game you see Jill forcing the Plagas into a guy and he attacked you which is pretty scary and awesome, but then you have the motorcycle scene and the famous boulder-punching QTE which somehow made it into the game.
I think re5 is the tipping point for action vs horror. Re4 was more balanced in terms of action and horror and I think re4 had an overall better atmosphere then re5. And I never want my horror games to be coop. Coop takes away from horror
@@TheEnigma271 lmao The only horror in Re 4 is regenerators. Its an all out action game.
@@bluesyrupgc4224 I mean, my counterpoint is RE1 had both effective horror like the dog scene but also had zombie sharks right out of a Sam Raimi horror comedy. As well, I kind of like that something so dumb is playing itself straight. That's how RE1 was. RE1 was DUMB, let's not act like it wasn't. But it took itself seriously. I HATED how RE4 was so "wink to the camera" heavy, it was insincere to a tee.
@@jackjax7921 The village section I d day can also be considered as horror, and while the castle isn't technically horror, it still has this horror like atmosphere, especially when you have these priests whispering in the backgroud. Re4 only goes full action in the island, which to be honest, I am not a big fan of, but the Island still has some cool stuff like the Regeneretors, that one cave full of flying insects and the Krauser boss fight if you don't fighf him with a knife. My only problem with Re4 is how boring the fight with Saddler is.
The Framework engine is miles better than Unreal. That's why the game still looks great and performs smoothly.
RexVergstrong yup. DMC4 still looks amazing because of this.
Monster Hunter World uses it too and it looks great. Very versatile engine that I also like more than Unreal.
Not only did DMC looks amazing but it also ran at 60 FPS. Come dmc they can't pull it because of the Unreal engine.
This is absolutely true!
I think you mean MT Framework. And I haven't looked into it much. But it really is ultimately determined by the skills of the dev team with the tools they use for how great something looks and performs.
I absolutely love this game but as a black person myself I can definitely see where the criticism is coming from. That's why I think it was both awesome and important to include strong non stereotypical black characters like my girl Sheva and also Josh. (I did not feel like they were forced into the story at all) It was really nice to play as Sheva she's kind but sassy, brave and beautiful as a AI companion she can be very helpful but also irritating sometimes so I was really excited to finally play as her. I wish the two dlc chapters were part of the main game great addition to the story Lost in Nightmares as the intro and Desperate Escape in between before the finale both from Jill's point of view accompanied by either Chris or Josh. Absolutely loved the relationship between the four characters (Chris, Sheva, Jill and Josh) good chemistry I really love the idea of teamwork, working together trusting your partner to defeat the enemy ! And I would love to see these 4 return in a future RE game
Can you explain further on where you think the racist criticsm stems from that you agree with? Id love to hear your opinion. My only gripe about the game racially is how extremely whitewashed Sheva is as a character. She has very soft european features, straight hair and just a tinge of darkness to her skin. Would have been cool if the Resident Evil universe had a beautiful rambunctious dark skin woman with more accurate black features fighting BOWs. I could see the Japanese developers being uncomfortable in trying to portray a foriegn continent that they're unfamiliar with, but still representation matters! Ada is also whitewashed to kingdom come too, so not completely surprised. Nonetheless, love RE5!
@@Joey-rs7uq european woman are hotter then black woman ;)
Your RE retrospective is such an amazing series, I always come back to it even though I know most of the main line games like the back of my hand, it’s interesting to hear your perspective and always be fair to all entries, I always love to play RE 1 through 3 on my PS1, and occasionally my GameCube RE4 or some of the remakes I enjoyed like the classic REmake or RE2 & RE4 which I think were amazing, I haven’t play RE5 or 6 in a very long time and I’ve been toying with the idea of going back and re visiting them and your video made me realise how much I used to love playing this co op back in the day after school with my friends, I think the graphics still hold up amazingly there’s something about the look of this game still impresses me, that 2007 trailer is amazing too, wish we got something closer to that intensity in the finished version
I'm glad you made an exception in talking about serious topic to discuss these allegations of racism. The idea that Japan produced a white supremacist game gained way too much traction to be health.
These videos are a love letter to Resident Evil fans and actually take into consideration the thoughts and feelings of the time. It's easy to forget context in the age of speedrunning and nostalgia goggles. Your analysis stays grounded and level headed.
That's some high praise. I'm glad I didn't drag the video down with the socio-political nonsense. I just always thought that was fucking ridiculous. Thanks bruv!
@Anthony Johnson Sheva was always in the game, though she did get promoted to side-kick somewhere among development, replacing Barry Burton as Chris's partner.
@Anthony Johnson shoe-horned. Wow, actually do some research on a game before commenting on its development.
@Anthony Johnson No, she existed in early drafts but she wasn't a partner character.
@Anthony Johnson that was only in ONE PART of the game, the rest of the time, they had relatively normal liking people.
Well, Spanish people from Europe are white people, so I can kinda see why the journalist didn't consider it the same thing as killing infected Africans. Regardless, I didn't see one damn racist thing in the entire game. Sheva is in the fight too, right?
As for the game, RE5 is fucking fantastic! It's my second favorite in the series after RE4. I put 100+ hours into the game! I love how quick-paced it is, full of action, the boat and jeep parts, and my favorite thing: online two-player simultaneous play. My friend and I used to play this game online all of the time, often starting from the very beginning and then completing it. Being able to split up and communicate is fun as hell, and the addition of the hidden blue emblems created so much replay value that my friend and I would get online together just to hunt for them, refusing to look up their locations online. I have some great memories of this game and really enjoyed the different, daytime look. I haven't played it in a while and am looking forward to revisiting it soon.
I don't know if I can agree with that first part. Spanish people in Europe are far from Caucasian, but I agree there's absolutely nothing racist in the game. As for your 100 hours, HOLY SHIT! Don't get me wrong, the game was fun as fuck, but you gotta love something your putting that much time into. I never really got into the co-op aspect, but this comment section is definitely making me regret that.
I would be down to play the PS3 version with you online.
I might need to take you up on that.
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"Spanish people in Europe are far from Caucasian" Well, that's a sticky topic to broach but I feel like you've the confidence that stems from either knowing a topic well or not realizing how sticky a topic it is in actuality. We have to ask ourselves questions like "What are the 'rules' for being 'Caucasian'?" We have to journey into the various rationales regarding the topic. If Spanish people aren't 'Caucasian' then are Italians not Caucasian either? Especially not Sicilians or other Southern Italians, what about South-East Europe or the Levant? When does the line get drawn? Typically, Italians in the US are considered 'White' but this hasn't always been the case - same with people from Spain or Eastern-Europe - it's very much politicized - so I have to ask, what exactly do you mean by the aforementioned statement "Spanish people in Europe are far from Caucasian" ? Even in the 19th and 20th centuries - when politically-motivated anthropologists attempted to separate "Mediterraneans" into their own 'racial sub-group' in order to justify their prejudice (in addition to out of a misguided interest in the subject in general besides outright, conscious prejudice), it was still categorized within the confines of the "Caucasian" race - if those eternally misguided academics were able to see no other place for these people but under the banner of "Caucasian" (despite their best attempts at putting fences up WITHIN the confines of the over-arching "Race") - I am incredible curious as to your reasoning for excluding them. If you'll indulge my curiosity. I just want to know what I am if not Caucasian anymore.
We'll talk... Aside from the boulder punching finale in the volcano and having to take care of her health bar which you don't have to do in part 6 this was a good game.
Great retrospective in a so-far awesome series of retrospectives. Listened to the whole thing and loved it. I support your very sensible rant as well.
While I feel the allegations of racism and bigotry were absolutely over-blown, I also feel that the game did little to depict Africa as a varied, layered, and absolutely immense continent rather than one homogeneous place of primal people with grass skirts and spears (just using an example shown within the video) or crumbling streets that could be easily extracted out of Black Hawk Down. Nearly all games that depict Africa do it in this way, and in truth much of media (films, literature, etc) do this also - dating all the way back to Heart of Darkness and before. However, the reason I even state this concerning this one game in particular is because of the impression it gave me upon first playing it. Some of Sheva's first words to Chris, welcoming him, isn't something like "Welcome to Mogadishu" or "Johannesburg" or even "Welcome to Kenya" - she says "Welcome to *Africa* " and as trivial as it sounds it was a first impression that made me able to consider the rest of the game through this mindset, to at least understand with the people crying foul if definitely not agreeing with them. For the record, I do not think Capcom were racist or bigoted in their depiction of Africa - no, but I would go out on a limb and say they were culturally ignorant, likely unconsciously, and that's actually not surprising at all because even though Africa is an incredibly immense and varied continent we only hear about the nasty bits. So, I almost don't fault Capcom for this ignorance. It is Japan, after all, it would almost be culturally ignorant of myself to assume a Japanese game company would go to the same lengths a European or (especially) American one would in order to pro-actively stymie any potential race or culture-based heckling. MGS:TPP used a semi-similar setting but it localized it, it didn't say "This is Africa" it gave a specific location and a specific conflict/time-frame and so this didn't strike me as nearly as culturally (if honestly, not just geographically/anthropologically) ignorant. That's not a trivial distinction, it actually makes a world of difference. It did in my case, and I'm not exactly one prone to political flights of fancy - I'm very much methodical in coming to stances and viewpoints. So yeah, Capcom exercised all of the nuance and depth we've come to expect from the plot of a Resident Evil game. That's pretty much it. In attempting to co-opt some of that "Hollywood" cinematic quality they also borrowed a notably "Hollywood" trope - Africa, the country.
To be honest, though, I actually really liked the setting of Resi 5 - I felt it was something distinct from what I'd come to expect from a Resident Evil title. It was window dressing but it was nice window dressing. Vibrant.
I can agree with this completely. Capcom was clearly uneducated on this subject and that shown through the dialouge. I think we both agree there was no ill intent, and I also agree that Africa was a killer song for the game.
No ill intent at all. I honestly think a lot of that sort of ignorance stemmed from a wider societal trend regarding Africa, and Capcom's desire to conjure up that 'Hollywood', 'blockbuster cinema' vibe for the game's emphasis on action over horror. "The big-fuck movies show a very narrow view of Africa, so we gotta do that, too" sorta that. That's my theory, anyway. But hey, I appreciate you taking the time to not only read my long-ass comments but to thoughtfully respond to them, as well. I just came across this channel and I think this is going to be beginning of a beautiful 'content creator-consumer' relationship. ;P
Ha! Well, glad to hear that man. Here's to a beautiful relationship.
Sometimes people think that by saying "this is racist" is like you want them in jail, you're comparing them to KKK hatred or sh*t like that, but in fact the racist callout is also used to "everything that reinforces that bad image" you described. It's like a bar that goes from 1 to 10 and this stereotypical bad looking approach is "2/10 racist". I'd totally agree that it's more like ignorance than ill intent, however this should not be used as an excuse in my opinion. 21st century, internet and all.... you make a game that takes place in a real world scenario, so could you just bother a little bit to research instead of using an stereotype of tribal/slum black people, you know? :/
I'm from Brazil and it really made me sad when people from US and Europe (when I was abroad) learned about it and started to talk things like samba, football and violence.... or asked me how it is to live in the rain forest, with nature, crystals, monkeys and stuff.... I live in the biggest city of the country (sigh...). It all reinforces that 3rd world pov which is bad. If you make this into a game that sells thousands, there will be thousands of people getting this wrong message.
Other than that, excellent review! Really digging the channel content, kinda binge watching them :P
I believe the game creators said in an interview that they specifically looked to Black Hawk Down as a direct references, hence the "Mozambique" set pieces in the beginning.
I'm in the same boat. People complain about this game in person I ask them why they don't like it and they don't have an answer for me. I just saw this game as a fun ride and I enjoyed it.
Yeah, I get a lot of the same from people.
The game sucks because it lacks the gameplay depth from 4. In 4, there were plenty of ways to dispatch and circumvent enemies, each one being equally viable depending on the situation. In 5, it's a matter of how fast you can shoot and aim. It's another mindless shooter that doesn't compare to dedicated shooters like Vanquish, another game directed by Mikami.
@@etiennelatour3435 is that the only reason lol
Had some I’ve my best gaming moments with friends on 5 that’s how I looked at 5 and 6 they were fun co-op games
Couch co op is definitely the best way to play. I got this game way back in the day on the ps3 and me and a friend pretty much stayed up all night almost beating but it's definitely one of my favorite gaming experiences. It's kinda a shame you didn't fully talk about the level where you use the boat to go to different locations and where everything opened up for a bit it was definitely my favorite part of RE 5
Resident Evil 5 is one of my favorite resi games, its the hipsters now who shun it over 4 saying that the game brought the series in the wrong direction, when in fact it was 4.
Yeah, I can see where you're coming from. 5 is better than 4 in every way, as far as I'm concerned.
As much as I loved 5, I gotta disagree man. I remember playing Resident Evil 4 while my mother read through the strategy guide and helped me with it lol. Like Leon more than Chris. When it comes to an overall game, I feel like RE5 was better and more polished, but nothing can top the memories I had with 4 lmao
5 is better in every way except it isn't open world. 4 could have been 5 in every way, but nobody wanted to work in co-op, which would fit into the story just fine, and they didn't want to add optional chapters. Would have done wonders for the game.
I get that, but I think that has a lot to do with your memories surrounding the game, and not as much to do with the actual game itself.
Russia Good Code Veronica was the one that started what 4 continued.
RE5 and Revelations 2 are my favorites, judge me.
You suck
Revelations 2 is really good and I agree with you there. RE5 is mediocre at best.
Those games are amazing
Revelations 2 is the best game next to 4
@Ebiegberi Adonkie You might as well play Modern Warfare instead
"Hells yes?" I was waiting for the trademark "resounding yes!" :P
Tip: turn attack reaction off when you’re playing with friends especially when you both have the infinite rocket launcher
Thank you!! I felt like i was alone on this in my opinion its on my top 5 favourites. Iv been playing through the re games since re 2 remake and re 5 was the one i have had the most fun on so far.
My pleasure!
I'm glad you have positive views on RE5, because I actually enjoyed this game myself. Whether by myself or with a buddy, it was a good time and I love the weapons in this game. This is actually one of my favorite games not in the series, but as a video game in general. I will always love RE4 and continue to replay that as well. But RE6 will never earn my love.
EDIT: I'm from SF too! Good to know a youtuber I watch lives in the same location. A follow FL RE fan
Just found the channel. Already watched from RE 1 until this point. Excellent content, and I like how you just flat-out give your opinions on the matter - some of which I don't agree with, but that's neither here nor there. Keep up the awesome videos!
Very awesome to hear! I know I tend to have odd opinions, so disagreements are definitely expected.
Resident Evil 5 is one of my all time favorite games to play with my brother! It’s still our go to when deciding what to play. While it might be different than the early RE entries, it is one of the best coop games out there!
RE5 was originally supposed to be a single-player game until all the racist allegations. They toyed around with the thought of Barry being Chris's partner, but that was probably just during certain parts of the game. Sheva was originally a militia soldier who showed up once or twice.
The merchant was also supposed to appear, but was cut. Twas unfortunate. Also, 5 doesnt take place a decade after 4. It was only about 5 years.
I just checked my notes, and I was supposed to say half a decade. Not sure how I didn't catch that. Good eye. I think having the merchant would've helped the game feel less sectioned off. Kind of like it wasn't a level based deal.
Haha I noticed the decade thing too, I thought I had the timeline wrong.
Oh no, that's a drag about the merchant getting cut! I did like Sheva though, so at least that was a positive change.
Yup. It's sad how everything is racist when it's a white vs black... everything seems to be left agenda pushing. Star wars is another now. I dont see this coming from the right
The fucking merchant??? OMG how I wish he was in this one!
Realy liked the game, played it multiple times through. Made a Platinum and loved the Merc mode from the gold edition. 150 Enemies, Prison here i come! When i play it i still reload trough menu when i meele, like i was used to it back then. ^^
I didn't even know you could access the menu while doing a melee attack. Damn
5 will always have a special place in my heart. plus, it’s the conclusion of the Redfield-Wesker Saga, which is the story that started in the original. based on that alone, 5 always holds my attention more than 4 does. I can’t replay through 4 like I can 5, and I have no idea why that’s the case. 5 was my series favorite until the new REmakes came along.
It was only a little while when I popped this game back in for a play through with a buddy when I noticed that Wesker in here still uses his Samurai Edge and it made have a wickedly large smile having a small detail like that
From a story standpoint, it’s the best story in the series. It’s an epic conclusion to a story arc that started in the first game. The voice acting also helped it a lot too. You can feel the emotion just oozing off the characters in this game, especially in the Boss battle with Jill. It’s a shame that they never continue Jill’s newer story arc in RE6. Hopefully, we’ll get to see that story continued soon. Don’t even get me started on the soundtrack. It’s soo fucking good.
I never really noticed the soundtrack in this game. Not sure if that's a bad thing or a good thing, but I can't really remember any tunes that I heard while playing.
Listen to the tracks Sad But True and Trust off the soundtrack. It’s the music used for Jill’s Boss battle and the cutscene after it. It portrays the emotion of the moment very well.
Never clicked on a video this fast
Beat of blues I know what you mean
Ha!! Glad to hear that
OK, so comment for the actual video itself.
Personally I prefer 5 over 4, but that's just me not really getting what was appealing in 4. For me 4 had the most out of place story, and yes, even compared to 6 (which I'm not a big fan of, but more of that when you post part 6 hehe). I think playing this game co-op is a blast, but I do get frustrated playing with an AI. I think RE nailed it down the line with the Revelations series, so I guess there's that. I do feel that 5 is the least scary in terms of the main entries though. That might be why some people hate it. Personally, I've never met anyone that says they're a big fan of RE that hates this game. I kiiiind of think a lot of people haven't even played it, like a lot of things on the internet haha. See you on part 6!
I think you're right about that. Some portion of the hate had to come from people who haven't played it. At least it seems that way to me. I agree with you about 4s story. It really did feel it of place.
These have kept me happy at work, thankyou
Thanks for changing my mind about this game, I just got a ps4 copy and I am having a great time. Awesome retrospective, I love it.
Very happy to hear that!!!
What's with the camera change in X360 and PS4?
Also, for PC version, it was initially released with Games For Windows Live service (I bought the game DVD for it :D) but around around 2014-15, they switched to Steamworks and brought the then console exclusive DLC Lost In Nightmare.
Splitscreen was there in GFWL version, but absent from newer rerelease. However, you can change to old version via Steam properties. But you need a mod for that which is a whole new hassle.
Fuck! I remember games for windows live! That service ruined pc ports of fighting games for a long time. Never knew you could switch to the old version. Pretty damn cool.
also, the PS4/XBONE version also is based on the PC version and makes a number of weird changes, such as making the FOV wider and mixing both mercenaries modes into one, but due to it being botched, you cant play with the original mercenaries combo rules and enemy placements
I actually like the fov change. It improved the action for me.
i completly agree, i actually have a mod on the PC version to do the same, the problem is that they ruined mercenaries by removing options and making the game unbalanced
I love this game. Especially The Mercenaries.
I’m so pleased to see you enjoyed this one so much! As much as I love all the recent RE Engine games, RE5 is still my baby. I’ve played this game SO many times, both with friends and solo. RE5 is to me what RE4 is to everybody else. I really hope Capcom can capture the same feeling for me with an RE5 remake, but even if they don’t, I’ve still got this to continue to come back to again and again!
Btw, I also love RE6, but 5 is still my favorite
RE 5 was the first game in the series I ever played after I once tried to play the 2002 remake of the original and got scared shitless as a kid. My friends actually introduced me to it and honestly I loved the game. We grew so much closer and had a lot of fun playing it. RE5 holds a close place to my heart and I honestly wouldn't trade it for my life.
I can't wait to hear your thoughts on RE 6!
I'm actually psyched to start it up. Don't remember a lot about it.
I personally loved this game! When I saw the first trailers I was like the rest of the fans thinking that this game was gonna be a copy of RE4 but with Chris as the protagonist I didn’t have much hope for it but after it release I had the luck to play the Gold Edition and it was an amazing experience, I guess even though it’s not the best RE game is really enjoyable and more with all the extra modes that it has, the Versus mode was the most popular I guess that’s why it’s the best sell RE but for anymore that hasn’t played RE5 I totally recommend it
I'm right there with you. It may not have been the best, but it's great.
I always saw pictures of Resident evil games as a kid but RE5 was my first RE game that I played alone and damn did it scare me out at times! it still tense asf when your outnumbered, both you and your partner are out of ammo and one hit away from death, it becomes a terrifying experience. I’ll always have a soft spot for this game, it takes away what you hate about RE4 but improves everything you loved
I can't deny this probably isn't a real Resident Evil type game but I love it. Coop is a lot of fun and I find it very replayable due to the access to costumes and infinite ammo with points earned from gameplay and rankings.
Thanks for the awesome video I hope to see something at E3 for RE2 remake
My pleasure! I have my fingers crossed that it's good news.
Im glad I'm not the only one who thought Resident Evil 5 was a better experience than 4. Great video as always!
I still get so surprised when people actually agree with me!
I think so too. 4 was just too silly and ridiculous to be a horror game. Also, there was almost nothing tying it to the rest of the series. If you replaced Leon and Ada with original characters, you'd never guess it was an RE game. At least 5 makes it seem like a legit RE tale, and makes some huge improvements in the gameplay department as well as tone.
I agree wholeheartedly. It's nice to see there's at least a few of us!
I'm so surprised to see there's actually a lot of people that think this way XD
I always feel like I'm gonna get burned when I say this on the internet!
SilentBobVG I disagree
in 2011, i remember asking my mom for dead island for my birthday. she came home with resident evil 5. she said the guy at gamestop said i would like it more. i remember being kind of disappointed at first, until i booted up the game. i had never played anything like it before. that was my first introduction to resident evil and ive been hooked since.
I’ve always really enjoyed dead island
@@AvalancheReviews me too. the trailer was misleading so i get why a lot of people were upset. wonder if we'll ever see dead island 2 make its way out of development.
I'm loving these retrospective videos there insanely good
This game was always so much better to me then most people gave it credit for. I get it wasn't RE4, and that upset a lot of people, but that game is impossible to recreate anyway. The co-op while I understand took the survival fear element out of the game, was an amazing experience with me and a friend. To me, who was un experienced with the franchise, having a buddy to back you up was nice. I LOVED this game top to bottom. I can fondly remember even playing the co-op demo over and over with my friend, even though it was short, and getting so hyped for the game. It delivered for me personally.
On the game itself, this game was Hella fun.
I wouldn't say this wasn't the worst and it has a special place in my heart as the RE game that I finished with my high school best friend/short-term sweetheart. She was on marksman duty as Sheva and I was the pointman as Chris. It was great. ☺
It's definitely an improvement in terms of gameplay over RE 4. The variety in the Majini was fascinating (the tribal ones were the creepiest to me) and the most fun I had was out of both the vanilla and "Gold" edition of this game was the mercenaries mode.
Overall, my only gripe was what they did to Wesker in the story, they made him into a hammy MCU villain, and that darn inventory system. But at least the story was less cheesy than RE 4's.
Lastly, I didn't really mind the growth in physique with Chris. Coming from a family of Law Enforcers and as a Martial Artist myself, it makes sense to me to have Chris get buffer as a natural effect of staying getting in-shape as a Soldier and to compensate for having to deal with inhuman threats.
(EDIT) And Jill's sacrifice to save Chris in Lost in Nightmares is pretty much like how James at the end of House of the Dead 4 was... pointless. 😂
Yeah, I spend 6 days a week in the gym, so Chris getting muscular was always a plus for me. Just kind of made sense. I will say, that I didn't like Wesker's super powers that much either, but they're starting to grow on me, if I'm being honest.
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The bulk really helped Chris with Wesker later on when it came to hand-to-hand combat .
Wesker's powers were most fun in MVC 3/UMVC 3. I do like his more toned down post-mansion incident portrayal in Umbrella Chronicles though.
Man I wish I'd found this sooner. Subbed. This was my second RE game ever after 2 (I had a meandering route to playing all the RE games) and I always kinda liked the absurdity of Chris "Fuck Boulder's" Redfield it kinda fit with Leon "Suplex" Kennedy
This was my first introduction to re and ive been a fan ever since.
You are the best RE fans i've ever known. I mean, even that you love the old school series, and the recent RE7, but how you didn't make RE 4,5,6 as a punching bag amazed me so much. I hope all the RE fans can be open minded like you man.
That's awesome to hear. I get accused of doing the opposite, all the time. I want to be as unbiased as possible. So I go into the new games without expecting them to be like the old ones.
I agree that It's important to have non-white zombies as funny as that may sound, and ironically Croal agrees with you too. Croal made some pretty valid points that you didn't mention. He said if the setting had been historical Nazi Germany, the game studio would have been very careful to not have the zombies look like they could be interpreted as Holocaust victims and would provide more historical context and acknowledgments accordingly. But it was set in modern day Africa so what's the problem?
Well, Africa and it's residents have been taken advantage of, colonized, brutalized, enslaved, raped, exploited, and maimed for centuries by people who look like Chris Redfield. This has continued into modern-day times, and has been accompanied by rhetoric and ideologies central to Western societies that characterize Africans as less than, dirty, inferior, and disease-ridden (like zombies). Moreover, a lot of contemporary African regimes have been set up by Western governmental and military powers to act in the best interests of people who look like Chris Redfield, and antithetical to the best interests of people who more resemble the zombies in this game. Many of Africa's people are still living the devastatingly negative effects of imperialism and colonism waged by people who look like Chris Redfield. And if that wasn't enough, mainstream politicians who look like Chris Redfield, speak poorly about African citizens and discuss them and their cultures as though they are outright inferior.
All Croal was saying is that, If you're going to have a Chris Redfield killing a bunch of faceless zombies in Africa, It would be nice to establish more context and acknowledge some of the factors at play the way they would if the setting more so resembled the Holocaust. That sounds pretty valid all things considered lol.
The ideologies in cultural artifacts like video games have distinct consequences when consumed by audiences. I had a friend in college who played resident evil 5 and would make a lot more racist jokes after doing so. It was always in him but he would go on distinctly more intense and longer racially charged tirades after playing for a few hours. How we consistently portray people who look like Chris Redfield juxtaposed to how we consistently portray people who look more so like the zombies, ultimately impacts the lives of both. In many cases it's subtle, but when it happens repeatedly and systemically it affects everyone involved pretty profoundly. People like my friend go on to have a lot of power and what they think matters.
Croal also brought up how video game studios whether Japanese or not, tend to hire disproportionately few non-white employees, leading to representations of non-white people that are inaccurate and sometimes harmful. That's a valid criticism. It seems in many situations black skin is a disqualification for working in a video game studio. It shouldn't be that way. If everything were reversed, I'm sure people like yourself would notice some of the subtle nuances that were off and wonder why white people were seemingly prohibited from working at video game studios except under rare circumstances.
The biggest issue here though is your implication that responding to and identifying racism and bigotry is more of an issue than the racism and bigotry itself. I have to say that's a strange viewpoint to take. You get offended by people confronting racism and bigotry, and take issue when people even acknowledge racism might be present, but seem to have very little problem with racism and bigotry itself. You are outspokenly against discussing racism, but have very little to say about actual racism. To you, identifying and confronting racism and bigotry is the problem not the racism and bigotry. That perspective has clearly been molded by your lived experiences in your skin which has formed your strong belief systems on these matters. I get it, you don't have to experience it, so you wonder why other people bother talking about it. But just because you don't experience it firsthand doesn't mean it's non-existent.
Anti-black racism embedded in media consumed by westerners has existed for as long as anti-black racism has existed in said western societies (seemingly since their inception lol), and it's important to confront it whenever and wherever it presents itself. Whether merely discussing it offends people like you or not. It just so happens that in recent times, more mainstream journalists have finally been allowed to talk about it. That shouldn't offend you more than the racism prevalent throughout Western history itself. Racism is cancerous, and like cancer, we can't do anything about it until we acknowledge its presence and face it.
All this being said, I appreciate your content and love of survival horror games and the games that followed. I'm already excited to watch your review of the Silent Hill 2 remake that hopefully comes out in 2023. Also, I'm glad you spoke your piece openly. It's very important to discuss these matters
well said
I love your retrospectives. Especially since I haven't played them all. BTW guys Capcom is having a HUGE SALE on a lot of the RE games right now!
Very happy to hear that!! Thanks for the love!
@@AvalancheReviews For sure! Thank you for dedicating your time to do these retrospectives! I hope you keep doing what you're doing, because you're great at it!
Oh! Also I hope one day you'll collaborate with Sphere Hunter. She's phenomenal. Her and you are where I go for survival horror and RE. Best in the biz!
RE 5 was first RE game that I really, really got into. Now I have played it tens of times with different people on local Coop and always had a blast.
I really appreciate you being honest with the accusations of racism. I remember reading that the company was stunned and people need to realize that in the case of Japanese people I really feel it didn't come from a place of racism whatsoever
Nice to see someone else who views RE5 as the better game of the two.
I think people hate RE5 because it steered away from the japanese randomness and cheesiness of RE4 and added co-op thus 'killing' RE4's supposed horror aspect. If RE4 was supposed to be scary and atmospheric we would have ended up with the hookman version instead of that carnival ride...
Yeah, re4 did way more to kill its horror feel, than 5 ever could. You're absolutely right
No, I hate it because it sucked so bad.
It was just a mess to slog through.
You don't knıw what you are talking. Its not about Japanese bullshit. Game is just bad action game not survival horror.
Dante XE 4 had a short midget zombie as the villain, that game is most definitely not a survival horror
Resident evil 5 was one of the first I played in the series, and I got to play co-op with my older brother, so I have very fond memories of it.
I've always enjoyed this game ever since it came out. My dad and I played the absolute hell out of it through co-op on the PS3. I have alot of fond memories with it. Now my girlfriend and I are playing through it on PS4 and we're both enjoying it. I love this game.
Whether or not it was intended for her to be partnered to Chris from the start, Sheva is a great addition to the gameplay and plot (and is still my favorite RE character). The creepiness in the game is there, albeit minimal, and I think I prefer the look of the previous gen version as the contrast not only invokes Black Hawk Down, but creates an eerier experience. And although it changed absolutely nothing in the long run, I do like that they had Jill be brainwashed and take on an antagonistic role. It would have been nice to see more come of it in the form of some PTSD or lingering issues, but this is Resident Evil, so I guess that is asking a bit much.
I think my main criticism, though, is that Chris can be a bit of a cipher at times. Beyond his facial expressions, his emoting can leave much to be desired, especially when it comes to Jill, and that final boss fight is just ridiculous in a mostly not good way. The boulder punching is a fun kind of campy, but the fight itself just doubles down on the series trope of overblown main antagonist mutations (something that would later ruin the Leon/Helena campaign in 6 for me).
I prefer 4 for its tighter level design and the incredibly unscientific factor of replayability, but I do still like 5 a lot. It strays even further from the classic RE formula in gameplay than 4 did though, so it's not hard to see why somebody who's already put off by 4 could just write it off. My biggest problem with the story I guess are the new characters besides Sheva, they're pretty bland and unmemorable. Say what you want about 4's Saturday morning cartoon villains, but you're not going to forget them any time soon. Look forward to hearing your thoughts on 6.
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I think RE4 still had some classic RE elements (some backtracking, exploring, dark and creepy sections) while 5 was just about shooting everything. No backtracking, "puzzles"had the keys just lying nearby. It was waaaay more focused on action than before