Operation Raccoon City: RE Retrospective
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Maybe you've heard about Operation Raccoon city, and how it may be the worst game ever released in the Resident Evil series..... Well.....that's both true and not true at the same time. It's complicated! 
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"You can't beat the premise or general idea of being the only member of your team left alive as the zombie horde closes in"
If only resident evil had a badass mysterious character in a gas mask who is known to be the soul survivor of his team and might appear in a certain upcoming remake
Tofu OP
And he's made entirely out of homogeneous soy protein!
If such a man existed, I'd call him "Mr. Death." or something. Seriously though, The 4th Survivor better be in RE2make
@@TurbulentEitri I thought Tofu was a refrigerator when I was a kid.🙄 I didn't know that Tofu was a food until I was much older.
Who is mister death?
I'm always glad when people can see something to like even in mediocre games. ORC is very much a guilty pleasure.
yeah it really is
It's incredibly fun with friends
That last battle against Leon was such a surprise. I was playing with 3 friends so imagine my surprise when all of a sudden, instead of choosing to obey orders and terminate Leon, my teammates sided with him, wich turned into me VS all 3 of them + Leon. Such features are so rare, yet so intense, RE:ORC 2, amirite
And I'm guilty.
@@AvalancheReviews oh you like ORC? you got it on pc? I JUST recently made a mod to improve the gameplay. the mod files link is in the description. Here's my video: ruclips.net/video/3y-GvWRyg48/видео.html
I liked the infection mechanic where you slowly become a zombie after you get bitten
Yeah, I liked that mechanic in Outbreak, so it was awesome to see it here too.
@@AvalancheReviews I also like how when one of your teammates is infected, you can just shoot them in the head before they turn and then revive them
@@AvalancheReviews I think the hilarious part is when they do turn into zombies, they also have a chance of becoming Crimson Heads, and you can kill them and dismember their corpses all you like, then when you go to revive them, they instantaneously regrow all their lost limbs and revive good as new
Hot take: Racoon city was actually pretty fun
The hottest take
Especially with the dlc costumes.
It was fun man. I think homeboy is butt hurt with canon which I understand. But the story arch’s are just that. Story arch’s.
@@simplyshane6477 its also a glitchy mess most of the time but boy do I have some great memories playing it with friends it certainly isn't a great game. Hell its probably not even a good game, but was it fun, for me the answer is absolutely. The multiplayer especially was a riot
If this game had a split screen mode on consoles I would had more fun with it
This needs a reboot! It has all the things that should be included. Bleed outs attracting more zombies, you can get infected and cure it and you can actually break away from the zombies if they get you.
Nah, RE: Outbreak series reboot is much more interesting.
@@ElBandito would be cool if they also integrated umbrella operatives scenarios
@Dominic dominic The fact resistance sucks and was bundled in just to cover up the fact R3make is such a poor product. Outbreak would be amazing if rereleased, many many fans have been vocal about wanting a remaster or File 3.
EDIT: wait neverming you're dominic, the R3make shill 😂
The developer slant six shut down but Capcom still can possibly fix the game or remaster it.
No mention of the spec ops team? And the fact the game was marketed to look like it had 2 campaigns but you had to buy the spec ops story.
And how Slant Six repeatedly claimed that you could kill survivors and mainline characters stressing Leon was killable at any time as an example only for the full game to force you to make that decision at the end of the game.
That was my issue. They were sneaky about it, saying it was part of the game, but only the first tiny bit was there. Then the two "expansions" had to be bought at $10 each to finish the game, which I have not once seen put on sale. Since Capcom puts RE stuff on sale every other week, I'd guess it is the devs with the distribution rights and Capcom has never tried to get them because they don't want them. Calling them expansions is a joke anyway since the main story has a super abrupt stopping point if you don't fork over for the content that should have been included. It would be like if they had released Revelations 2 as Claire/Moira only, then Barry/Natalia later for more money. Or leaving out all of Chris' part in Code Veronica unless you paid more.
It wasn't free? That's how I got it.
You got the first Echo Six mission free. There were two more Echo Six packs that are to this day still $9.99 and add three missions each. Those have only ever been available as DLC that has to be purchased. Even the special edition didn't get them free.
@@AthenisKS81 damn. Might get them if I get my PS3 fixed 😅😅
I actually liked this game...the action part makes sense considering who you play as.
Have to agree with this you're genuinely in a city filled with zombies like it or not the Resident Evil style of gameplay we're all used to really wouldn't have fit well, I view this like the differences between the regular Resi 2 scenario's and Hunk's, survivial tense horror vibe vs all out assault on the undead vibe
I enjoyed it alot it was more fun then 6 to me
Returning to raccoon was a blast! I like it way more than 4/5/6. And let’s not forget multiplayer. For a game that was done by a outside company, I thought it was done well. And rumors of a second game covering CV had me excited, until to many people who were stuck in the past, killed that. How about Operation CV with new RE engine?
Greg Lewis ok but 4 is great
I thought it was a fun game to play, it had Resident Evil elements and also was fun at the same time. They would have been fucking awesome if they had included Leon, but not to the point where they have to "kill him" at the end. They then could have gone full circle and briefly included the U.S.S. in REmake 2 : / . Guess they didn't have enough foresight for that one.
This game is a mixed bag. It's clear that they didn't have the greatest budget or creative team or enough polish time...but the game has a lot of really cool concepts, aesthetic, style, music, and overall vibe. I wouldn't mind a sequel/remake that maximized it's initial potential.
Very much so. What other re game can you come back as a zombie and attack your teammates???
@@madbart214yomother7 outbreak
I love when YT recommends a video that actually interests me from a smaller channel, it gives me some faith there's still hope for up and comers
good stuff, love the FF7 theme on the channel!
Well damn, Thanks for the love man! I'm usually the first to complain about RUclips, but lately they have actually been doing a good job getting my stuff out to people.
Something something something darks souls of recommendations
uh, yeah, but Avalanche Reviews is a big channel directed at harvesting income from monetization, dude…
Game was worth it just for the Re2/Re3 nostalgia, and the character design was absolutely fantastic.
I agree
I love this channel. Giving credit where credit is due. This is actually a fun game.
Thanks! Much appreciated
Operation Bullet Sponge
Lol
tfw you wasted a entire clip on just a soldier made me really angry
This game in a nut shell. Though it gets a little less frustrating once you unlock more powerful weapons.
@murat balamsa It gets worse when you have to deal with Hunters, Zombies AND human soldiers
@murat balamsa Yea, Lickers can be annoying too, but they at least don't doo much damage. Their stun attack is what makes them dangerous if you're dealing with other enemy types at the same time. The thing with Ada is not so much a boss fight, but rather a scripted event. Speaking of Nemesis, you encounter him multiple times in the Spec Ops campaign and he will be invincible until you reach a certain point where he will be able to take damage, which will take a while.
This game is ok and just ok not the worst nor the best
The worst will always be Gaiden.
literally the worst.
@@shooter5769 we shouldn't speak that name lol
SHOOTER 57 RE: survivor is the worst. RE: Gaiden is actually pretty good for what a GBC game of RE is pretty solid.
ORC is a okay game, but had the potential to be great. Way better than the garbage that was the Umbrella Corps shooter game.
Umbrella Corps is the worst, but this game isn't much better. I give Gaiden and Survivor a pass because of the hardware they're on.
Not gonna lie, but this game is my guilty pleasure. I've played through it at least 5 times, with my fiancèe and my buddies, and we spent an ungodly amount of hours playing it online. I can positively say it's NOT a great game by any means, but played in the "right" way, it becomes fun as hell. Coop, Friendly Fire On, and on the hardest difficulty, and you're gonna have a really good time! :)
Vector is my man, he's a badass, while my fiancèe stuck to Lupo.
Keep up the good work, Jared!
Yes exactly! I'm a fan of Lupo myself.
Yessir! Vector is no slouch either tho: Keep in mind he's the protegè of Mr. Death himself, HUNK! :o
This is probably the best multiplayer RE game released in the last 10 years definitely deserves more credit if it had a bit more time for polish and quality of life support. This could’ve been a great game still played to this day. I’m glad it’s backwards compatible just got the dlc expansions going through them with a few friends having a blast like I did way back around release.
Would you believe people actually still play this game ?
I buyed it for Xbox and it's fun I love to be in racoon city with my squad
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 Good. I hope more people play this online then Resistance or ReVerse.
Alright, this game...everything you said is true but let me paint you a picture: launch day, 3 friends and I (all hardcore RE aficionados like yourself) take a day off work and meet at my place for 4-player co-op in the same room all day long. Let me tell you, the word "fun" is an understatement.
Yeah it's like if you took the frenetic energy of smash bros and mario kart and made them into a zombie shooter. Easily one of my top "party games" I could ever imagine. The dif characters and tons of guns and hundreds of zombies is what sells it. So much fun as a party game!
Exactly!
Can you play with a system link or is it all local?
@@jonathanmitchell8668 No system link, unfortunately. We all just signed into Xbox Live from the same place.
SlyBeast same, ill always love this game
May you have the strength to pull through Umbrella Corps. I have a copy of that game through a bundle, but I haven't even touched it out of fear.
I guess that makes it a return to survival horror in a way.
Listen to me, I bought it 3 months after release during free weekend on Steam, campaign wasn't really interesting but it actually had sense, also some awesome lore. Multiplayer had nothing of RE except maps, but it was very dynamic. For 2 years I've been playing with other RE fans on Steam group to get a platinum. Guess what? If you like playing with people who also love the franchise, it turns out to be actually awesome. So at least try it and feel bo fear.
The campaign is a lot of fun, although its missing a few modes on Spanish Village and two maps they came out with post-launch which is really unfortunate... We begged them to finish it but the RE7 trolls had scared Cap away, unfortunately.
Multi is super super fun, and although ORC has a few things UC doesn't have, UC has a few things ORC didn't have. So neither is a complete experience, but both are very fun. Only need 4 people to get UC going, so don't get discouraged and uninstall. Finding 3 people is pretty easy ;)
I thought that game was lack luster. Seems like all you do is kill zombies in a map and move on to the next. I’ll have to try it out again since the last time I played it, there weren’t any people online...sad
Came here to talk about Umbrella Corps as well!
The only resident evil I haven't played. I saw game play and said no. Haha which is sad. I usually love all resident evil. But that.... that is not resident evil... I don't know what it is.
Despite all the hate this game gets, I actually really liked it. I wouldn't nominate it for GOTY or anything, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have a blast playing through it with people online. I kinda wish the characters were a little more unique, but there is a solid reason to play as one over another. Although the Russian surveillance guy is pretty damn useless, the rest seem pretty solid. It is a huge shame that they chose a cop-out ending that made the game noncanon, because this game would've otherwise fit in pretty well with the series timeline. I can think of a few alternate endings that would've upheld canon and made this game much more memorable. And yes there are bugs and glitches, and it's not extremely polished, but I enjoyed it for what it is, both gameplay and aesthetic-wise. If anything, it's just a guilty pleasure and a fun diversion for series vets. I actually played this on PS3 and didn't notice any of the control issues, so who knows.
yeah, I think you're spot on. I think the control issues were really specific to the pc version. It seems clear they didn't know anything about pc ports.
My friends and i had a blast playing through coop when it came out. I went back recently and played it solo on pc and i still had some fun.
I drop 10 pound and thought fuck it. It's not great by any means, but I had fun playing it for what it is.
Honestly, I enjoyed the hell out of Operation Raccoon City. Yes, it had the downsides you mentioned but it had that pseudo nostalgic charm to it where you got to see Nemesis and Tyrant in HD. Being able to fight them as the bad guys was definitely interesting and proved to still be a challenging fight.
I also loved the choices of passive abilities for your characters. Lupo being my favorite to be able to control zombies and infect enemies to become zombies.
The only thing that sucks about the PC version is that it uses Games for Windows which is no longer a service being offered and there is no official patch to remove that from the game to allow for utilization of steam's multiplayer services.
I think you're thinking of Four-Eyes. Lupo's active abilities were Incendiary rounds, Bottomless Mags, and Temporary Invincibility.
I did when I first played Xbox 360 back in 2014
@Radical Thestral You're right! My mistake.
dont know if this is still relevant to you anymore, but that Games for Windows has been fixed
@@quickdrawmcgraw3567 Oh? I've seen it constantly fail for me even when I use the hack dll.
This isn't related to Operation Raccoon City but I love how you use the typewriter sound effect on these videos.
Thanks! I couldn't find a proper RE font, so I dug a sprite sheet out of the second game, and sampled the type writer sound from the first. I have to hand edit each time a letter and sound happen, so it's nice that people appreciate that.
I might be forgetting something but why kidnap sherry? Uninfected, shes just some orphan little girl to a big...shadowy...gro-oh god!
...........shit...
Because she has the virus on her, and she's the kid of the company's best researchers....talk about a future investment.
any1 remember little lisa trevor? lol knowin umbrella even uninfected they do have plans or then theres kidnappin jill and keepin her cryostasised
Well Sherry has the Anti-Virus Strains in her blood, she was able to actually adapt to the vaccine thus being really useful to study, much like Jill who was infected with the T-Virus and then given a Vaccine by Carlos, Jill was also kidnapped by Wesker when they both fell off the window.
im not a big RE FAN nor do i know a lot about Survival horror but as a average fan of the series this game wasn't bad. i honestly wish there was a sequel
Me too!
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It sounds like the soldier said 'MY LEG!' XD
I still can't believe that Slant Six claimed this was the first game that featured players becoming zombies. Also really hated that not only the Spec Ops story was DLC the USS characters never ran into to them in the main game. That said though I wouldn't mind seeing the characters make a comeback just in a much better game. Also I'm not sure if you're aware of this but multi player in Umbrella Corps is practically dead however you can set up private matches and set up custom classes since sll weapons are available in private matches.
Yeah, I tried to get a private match going, but it fell through. Which sucks because I imagine this game would give in multi player
What platform did you get it on? I got it on sale for PS4 so if you needed people to play with I'd be down I just need to redownload it. I think I also have footage still lying around which if you want I could send it to you.
I think Outbreak had players turn into zombies as well.
BioDevil_Dom this game is on PS4????
The trailers were amazing and really it was the story that I was the most excited about this game. But it didn't reach its potential.
The story isn't that bad, but I think that what they needed to do to make it better was:
1. Don't make the wolf pack interact directly with core characters, if they are going to interact make it indirectly.
2. Get rid of the Spec Ops storyline, only focus on the wolf pack.
3.Don't make the wolf pack a 6 person team, stay with a 4 person one if the game is 4 person co-op so that the story remains consistent.
4. In cutscenes keep each member character and role consistent. If im playing the explosive expert and the team has a team leader, why the hell am I taking charge and all the decisions? I get it, the player is the main character, but it hurts the story if the team leader is following orders from the medic.
I agree with all of this.
I know this comment is two years old but it would've been fine to keep the Spec Ops story, although not as paid DLC. Otherwise I agree.
I think if the game is considered not canon, then it's fine to do whatever you want with it, just make it playable and not frustrating. If more time was put into making a smoother and slightly longer game then we wouldn't be talking here but it's such a chore to play through like avalanche said. Now its backwards compat on Xbox s and x and runs smooth af and it's a blast to play. Even spent the 20 to download it digitally. I think I remember the devs saying it wasn't Canon makes it tolerable and whatever happens, happens. Kinda cool you can switch characters and have them interact with each other differently in game and in the cutscenes it shows the exact character do said action. I always hated when the game FORCES the main character to do everything, like why have everyone else around if this person is gonna do everything? I think for when it came out and what they tried to do with this game, its a good game not great. This ain't Re2 here and never meant to be.
This was one of the first games in my life that I got as much news as I could to watch demos and gameplay interviews until release.
I really enjoyed the ORC game. It had such cheesy and campy dialogue and voice acting, which IMO...was part of the first RE games, such as...
"Jill sandwich!"
"Jill, there's many demons....OUCH!"
*Leon first encounters the Licker*
"Oh, boy!"
"Ladies love my accent, it drives 'em crazy!"
Walking the zombie infested streets of Raccoon City really fleshed out some lore of the city and how both Umbrella and the government handled the viral outbreak. Revisiting old locations rode high on my nostalgia waves.
Lol he says oh boy? Really? Haha
@@fearthepointman3134 He totally did. 😂
As a console owner, myself included,and a fan of Resident Evil, I would like to see this game get a HD port for X1 and PS4
That would be cool to see. Might throw down money for a physical copy of that.
Yes :) totally agree!
Only if they fix or completely redo the gameplay. A sequel or reboot of ORC would be the safest bet, especially with a seasoned development team. I think my dream would be ORC by Naughty Dog.
Something to look forward to that is kinda like ORC is Daymare 1998, I have such high hopes for that game.
I fear it might get stuck in development hell though. It was supposed to be released in 2018, and it's hard to find any info on the games development.
You can play it with PsNow
@@tylerwilliams6022 Daymare looks pretty good, something that could very well go under the radar.
Fun fact: this is the last Named Resident Evil game with Nemesis in it
Side note: I like this game. I like how it takes place before, during, and after RE2 and some of RE3
I did play this when it released. Yeah it was hard to get use too and all, yet I enjoyed it. Though I do have one question: Why didn't you cover the DLC for operation raccoon city? True, it's mostly the same thing, yet with a different squad and you have more encounters with the characters from 2 and 3 along with a brand new final boss at the end.
Same, was looking forward to a DLC mention.
6 new chars all with their own cool twisted backstories. I like a few of the levels more also. A lot of people don't even know there are another set of stages out there. :(
I honestly don’t think that dlc is worth anyone’s time tbh. The nemesis fight was ight and seeing jill again was pretty good, but other than that I think it’s a complete waste of time.
Yo the other group was fun & way more harder.
I paid full price for both DLC's and totally enjoyed them, felt like a gauntlet at parts!
Since I got the RE2 remake, I've been saying that ORC should have a Remake. Have it built from the ground up with the the RE Engine or similar. I love the game, not gonna lie cause it was fun for me, but it could be fleshed out.
Like whatever character you play as can have a flashback scene on how they came to be with Umbrella (like Karena LeProux aka LUPO's background of being a soldier, to a wife killing her abusive husband then mercanary work to provide for her kids then Umbrella.)
I also didn't like the split at the end, I kinda want a trust thing in there for them to make their decision to side with you, at varying degrees though to match their personalities so easy being Beltway then hardest being vector, or not and choose what happens with those who don't.
It had potential. A remake would fix it and would be awesome to see.
Re orc WAS NOT AS BAD AS PEOPLE SAY IT IS! I enjoyed it, & think the criticism was very harsh
@D C No it wasn't.
@D C Definitely wasn't.
@D C Ironically coming from a moron.
@D C A moronic counter coming from a bit of a fuckwit. I find your lack of brain cells disturbing. I like the game & plenty of other people thought it was decent. "to each their own" U mention it had bad scores when it was released, mount and blade warband had bad scores when released, does that make it a bad, shit game 2? WRONG. Was 1 of the most fun addictive games I've played in a long time. It's all subjective. You don't like it, ok then. Idc. Go away now dweeb.
@D C Unfortunately with time the moron still couldn't comprehend idgaf with his opinion is as I've already stated. For someone who's an utter fuckwit u have a good way of exemplifying it.
I really liked to premise and characters in this game, but it had so many obnoxious hiccups that made it difficult to really enjoy. I'd love to see this kind of game done right.
I would love to see another shot at this type of game too.
I really don't understand why Capcom didn't make it themselves. Had they made it play like RE5, but with 4 players, it could have been a great game.
This was actually my first RE game so this one holds a special place in my heart
Same here
The characters could've been so good and memorable too. Each characters' backstory was a good set-up to how they could act and interact with each other in-game. But instead they decided to make them bland and forgettable. Honestly, this game has so much wasted potential.
Wake up and see a video from Avalanche. It's going to be a good day.
Umbrellas aesthetic of gas masks never misses that’s the thing people remember the most about this game
They looked great when I was in highschool but looking back now they are goofy AF and terrible. (except for vector). I wish they had stuck to the more realistic and intimidating look like HUNK
also note for operation you did neglect to mention the dlc story packs that alternatively lets you play as the army members that came in and aid jill and sherry while fighting uss
I did indeed. I didn't have any of the dlc, and I really couldn't justify buying any.
@@AvalancheReviews they did have free story dlc pack on ps3 where it first came out on that it included the army facing nemesis and running into jill
ORC and Umbrella corps are easily the two RE games I’m the most torn over thanks to how fun they actually are to play
Ikr
Awesome video!!! And the most accurate retrospective in this series. Once you’re out on the streets of Raccoon City it is so much fun! Ever since RE2 I’ve always wanted to see more of Raccoon City. I feel like this game finally let us experience the chaotic outbreak in the opening cinematic of RE3. Bravo Avalanche, keep up the great work
just recently played this again after so long. i remember being really obsessed with it.
honestly i wouldn’t call it a good game but it’s still fun
This game is my guilty pleasure. I absolutely loved it's premise. Playing as bad guys. I'd love to see Lupo return in some future RE game.
At bargain bin prices, I would say it might be fun with friends. Nice little LAN party.
Yep! Exactly
It is definitely fun with friends, but that is a very low bar to clear, especially in video games. I did enjoy this game personally since it was a much better realization of RE multiplayer than the Outbreak titles, but mechanically it's a hopeless mess.
Thinking about buying this game the dlc echo six expansion 2 on sale do i need echo six 1 to play the 2nd one?
The weird thing is, when I was a kid growing up on the original trilogy, I always wanted to see what a RE game would be like in a tactical squad based shooter style enviroment. Except that game finally came(kinda), and this game is what we got. While ok and fun, didn't scratch the itch I was hoping for. I really wanted one part survival horror and one part just what would be Rainbow Six Vegas honestly. I guess ORC tried to do that, but I feel it failed.
I kind of had similar feelings. When I was playing RE2 and had Ada with me in the sewers, it made me want a game where I had a group with me shooting zombies.
definitely need a modern version of outbreak soon, actual real survival horror and all
Am i the only person that likes this game? I found it really fun. I never had any issues with it.
It's still a blast to play! I wish there was still an active PVP community here....that was the very best part of this game!
I thought it was pretty fun
you cant go with the critic all the time, my brother and i loved this game
Not a good resi game though, but still fun
I remember being super hyped for this thinking it would be a new Outbreak.
It’s wasn’t.
I started watching the Retrospective because I played a lot of RE1-3 when I was very, very young and the videos were a great analysis that reminded me of the great moments of those games. It's been years and years since I've played RE2 or 3 so those videos were really nice. I continued watching the Retrospective because I played a lot of the later games more recently and was interested in how your opinion of RE4-6, pretty controversial games in the franchise, compared to mine. I was especially interested in your opinion of RE7. Thought I would stop watching with that. But the analysis of these spinoffs has been great. I've generally not played these spinoff games, especially the more obscure ones, so it's been super interesting to watch your analysis of these games. I'm not sure if I'll ever try them out, but I won't stop watching the videos! I hope there is enough content left to cover for you to continue the Retrospective into the release of REmake 2.
Thanks man! I appreciate that! I love making these videos, so it's awesome to see people are really getting into them. Makes me so damn happy
Great video as always and btw, nice tattoo! I planning on getting the face of the first zombie ( the one that tilts his head towards you while chewing on flesh in re1)
Thanks man! I want to get a licker on the other side, and just devote the rest of my leg to RE.
Goddamnit nickolai...get back here
Nicholai you piece of shit, stop killing your team off every time I replay this map. WTF is wrong with you!
@@chancepaladin LMAO exactly
How are there 2day old comments on a video that released half an hour ago?
Might have been unlisted and released early for paterons
@@DaltonGoesSlow Ok.
Yes, paterons get it early.
I really like your reviews! They are all well put together, informative, and clearly take a lot of effort!
Thank you!
I had fun playing ORC when I gave it a spin a few years ago on the 360. Like you, I enjoyed it for what it was. I did enjoy the inclusion of the Crimson Heads and the the strategy change they offered when they'd spawn in a group of zombies. I also enjoyed the lighting and atmosphere of the outside areas which really had a great September night in the middle of Hell feel. Never played the Echo Six DLC, but might do so eventually. I'd like to get the whole story even if it isn't canon. You better believe I'll be here for Umbrella Corps. I was surprised how much I enjoyed it after seeing how badly reviewed it was.
Well said. I’ll defend this game till the day I die. Some of my most fond Gaming memories are playing this late into the night with a good buddy of mine. Is it a mess? Absolutely, but it hits the right parts of my brain somehow and that coupled with the fact that they nail the RE feel (art design not gameplay) makes this one of my guiltiest pleasures. Great review. Cheers!
I'm so happy im not the only one that enjoys this game like a guilty pleasure~
I know its not a survival horror game, but its an absolute blast - playing it co op with my friends has always been fun, so much so ive reinstalled the game multiple times - absolute blast!
wish the DLC was cheap... sad that the DLC chapters actually cost more ( indivudally ) then the game itself :/
You think you're happy? I thought people were going to tear me apart for liking it. It's great to see im not the only one.
I remember buying the base game on 360 at full price, and full price again for the DLC. When I moved to PS3, I re-bought it for like... 5 euros, and managed to find the DLC on sale on PSN for another fiver...
@@AvalancheReviews yeah man absolutely happy! I know it's a flawed experience, but seeing the rpd like that was more then worth it to me~ the pc bugs like no sound used to be pretty irritating, but having replayed the game around a year ago now, all that's been fixed, and the game is a blast, doubly so with friends... nothing's funnier then seeing someone get infected, only to turn around, blow there head off so they ragdoll and die... Then just pick them up and be like "relax, your all cured beltway!" Never cease to make me laugh
@@PierreC71 nice! I brought the game for around 40, and still don't own all the dlc as I keep missing it on sale :/
Its good to see someone give this game a fair shake. It's not knock-your-socks-off amazing from a technical standpoint, but a lot of heart went in to the little things. The creative team deserves a boatload of credit for actually paying attention to the timeline of events in Raccoon City, like the fact that the mission to take the G-virus happened a week before the events of RE2, and you can see that in the movie between the first and second missions. Sure, they took some liberties here and there, but you have to when the premise of the game has the USS having a showdown with Leon.
Another great video, I look forward to seeing each and everyone of these!
Thanks man!
MUST PLAY before Resident Evil 2 Remake
FACT
A lot of flaws to be sure but damn man I loved this game. Thanks man for covering this game and giving it a honest review as you always do. Cheers.
My pleasure!!
hey im planning on picking this game up when its next on sale (use too play on ps3 and love it) but anyways, ive heard some bad stuff about GFWL (games for window live) and how its hard af to run on PC, should i be prepared to do some crazy shit with my files or what?
The Steam ver booted right up for me, with no issues. I have heard it can be a pain to get people playing with you, thanks to GFWL, but in my experience, it's not hard to get this game up and running. I just installed through steam, and I was in.
@@AvalancheReviews apparently you cant save unless you have GFWL, i dont plan to play online mostly offline so hopefully when i do get it i wont need GFWL, thank you for replying, i just recently found your RE vids and ive been watching them since, ill def watch your RE2 vids
Before I check if my pc can run it, is there a difference between the PS3 and 360 version?
I don’t understand the comment about DC Comics, are you taking a about Injustice?
Wish they’d just hit the redo button on this game, use the new REengine, and develop it internally.
I have been waiting for this for like a week or so.
Got my 360 set up in my studio too ready to give it another playthrough once I get a bit more free time.
@avalanche reviews Which RE would you recommend to a person as their first RE game?
I would say, RE2 is probably the best to start with. You might miss out on the story and experience of part 1, but you'll get the gameplay improvements and more user friendly mechanics. Once you get your head wrapped around how RE2 works, you'll be set to dive into the more difficult titles like RE Code Veronica and RE Zero.
As I'm replaying remake and zero in prep for 2 remake, I just got done watching every single one of your resident evil retrospective videos, loved them. Then, this one gets uploaded too.
Awesome stuff man, great job. I can see the hard work and effort youve put into this series. Great work.
P.S: Umbrella Corps is the worst game in the RE universe. Operation Raccoon City is a close second. Both are awful.
This is the first game I ever preordered. I learned my lesson and will never ever preorder a game for the rest of my life.
My first pre order was the re1 remake. I had a little better experience than you. HA!
Avalanche Reviews I think I’ll make an exception with the upcoming RE2 Remake.
I haven't, I got the game, played it and decided never to play it ever again. I preordered red dead Redemption a few weeks ago and I have no clue if it was worth it. I hope its actually a good game, if it isn't I'll definitely learn that lesson.
I’m so sorry. I preordered aliens cm so I know how you feel.
Mine was Watchdogs :/
I bought this game used about 8 years ago and never really played much of it. This makes me want to go back and give it another try. Really good job on these retrospectives man. They’re great.
Been subscribed since the start of the retrospective. I love every video so far! You should check out the dead rising games. I know it’s a very different style of game compared to RE, but I would love to hear your thoughts on the franchise. Also thanks for the great content on the channel
Fuck yeah thanks! I absolutely loved the first Dead Rising, but never really played any of the others. I got the remaster of 1 recently, so I'd love to dive back in and review on the channel at some point.
an Okay game that had a chance to be great but flopped.
This game is just fanservice. I played the shit outta this game when I was younger lol and also thought the concept was badass. The cgi trailers made it this game even more hype. However, I played it again a month ago and man oh man does the gameplay suck. This game and dead aim are my guilty pleasures of the series. Although I will say anyone planning on picking this up....stay away from the dlc. It’s just not worth your time imo.
awesome tattoo my friend! about your retrospektive: the quality of your videos is outstanding!
Can someone tell me, how i get it to work to invite a friend to my game?
I can't play this game coop, because invitations always fail, but somehow joining another persons game works, but we can't find each other games :/
I'm not sure honestly. I installed the steam ver of the game, and everything just worked. I was able to send a receive game and friend invites, without an issue.
@@AvalancheReviews I got it to work, but you won't believe, what I had to go trough xD
Took me 4 hours of research and data manipulation ^^
But it was worth it, the game is so much fun in coop.
HA! The things we do for not quite old, but not quite modern games.
Ah my first xbox 360 game
Gameplay was shitty at first but years later i found it better
I admit, this is a guilty pleasure of mine!
I absolutely adored this game when it came out. Played it a lot on the 360 by myself and with my friends. And the devs even went to the trouble to release DLC that doubled the campaign's length; which was interesting. The main campaign focusing more on RE2 and the US military campaign focusing more on RE3. Of course, where the multiplayer is concerned, they made the all-too-common mistake of selling a multiplayer mode - ensuring that the player pool would be torn into pieces between the people who buy it and the ones who didn't.
And it had those water cooler moments. You know that part in the main campaign where hunters are dropped in in their pods? I was playing with some friends and was chatting as I ran out ahead...only to get squashed by a pod. It happens so fast that one minute I'm there, the next I'm gone. I stopped talking immediately and stared. Hilarious in hindsight, but holy shit.
Can someone tell me if the servers are still up on PS3? or if people still play the campaign on mp ?
i love the RE games everyone hates lol, feels like theres an RE game for everyone
I would argue that re4 is survival horror. Still prefer the fixed perspective games though. Nice video also!
Thanks!
Hey man since your getting close to the end of you retrospective video series can you consider reviewing the 3 cgi movies? Regeneration, Damnation then Vendetta?
Hey dude! Great video as always! Good news is...looks like you're pretty much done with the RE series (and what a great series it was) now you can focus on another resident evil style game...like one with instead of zombies there are...oh I dunno ..dinosaurs?
Kidding, seriously great work and keep it up!
Ha! Dino Crisis is going to make for a really fun series to make a retrospective on. Short, and varied. It'll be sweet! Don't think I'll jump right into a another survival horror series though. I want to put out a few one-off reviews and then get back into a full series type of deal. Don't worry though, Dino Crisis, Silent Hill and Onimusha are going under the microscope very soon!
@@AvalancheReviews psh dude if you start doing silent Hill I may have to increase my patreon donation. As much of a hardcore resi fan as I am, I still hold SH2 above them all. Amazing series. What other games are you looking to do in the meantime?
Op:Raccoon City was fun
Really wish the would do another game like this but flesh out the delta team more
Man, I want a fresh crack at this formula so bad!!
Avalanche Reviews so would I honestly just hope if one day they do go back to it they have delta team return that’s literally the only thing im asking for 😂 wonder if they would ever consider remaking it with some good and fun multiplayer modes and good campaign
My college roomy was a build engineer for Slant Six and was a major dev for this game. He was stressed out during his time there and they dissolved shortly after its release. Tells you pretty much what you need to know.
I always say it with you (Welcome to the Resident Evil Retrospective)
I never played this game because everyone was saying how bad it was, I'm really happy you made an episode about it.
Ha! That made my day!
@@AvalancheReviews keep up the good work and good luck to you ♥️
I still play this game online today 2023 it’s still alive
I played on Xbox One last year, full lobby. Pretty cool.
Here is why this game is a survival horror:
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@@imposterblockade1826 I'll see u there bro.
This is a man that generates his ideas on his own by his own experience, not letting everyone else's ideas and judgments become his own. Mad respect to you and great series retrospective.
Thank you! I do try to think that way. I might just be too old to care what anyone else thinks though. HAA!
For any fans of this game I would recommend listening to the Crimson Head Elder podcast with this games director Andrew Santos - it goes into the development issues and other decisions the developers made - the game was supposed to have the Spec Op's campaign in the original release and not as DLC. There are some interesting revelations to hear!
I love this game despite it's flaws! I know it is not survival horror it is ultimately a SPIN OFF game! Why not let the series experiment in a side game instead of cramming many different genres into one game like RE6? It is too bad they couldn't make a Canon version of this were theses characters can cover Umbrella's ass during the initial days of the outbreak!
surprised I expected you to absolutely shit on this game. I will admit this one is a guilty pleasure the premise is awesome I feel it was just poorly executed.
37 euro on steam for the complete collection isn't kinda cheap :P
Damn I got it off steam for 10$ but I didn't buy any of the dlc.
Avalanche Reviews how do you play the steam version? My version just got a black screen, didn’t even get past that.
Not sure honestly. It installed and I never had any issues getting it up and running.
Having watched all of your series here, I've noticed you frequently tackle the question of "what is Survival Horror?", so I figured I'd throw my two cents in. My answer probably isn't the most satisfying one and might be seen as a cop out, but for me Survival Horror is basically just whatever Capcom says it is. They invented the term as far as I know for Resident Evil 1, and seem to apply it to all of the mainline RE games (and don't apply it for spinoffs that deviate too heavily, like ORC). Not the deepest or clearest definition, I know.
Much like yourself, I also enjoyed ORC to a degree, just because I love the RE universe and seeing the locations and monsters again was fun. That being said, you're coming up to what I think is the only RE title (or RE based game, seeing as it doesn't actually even call itself Resident Evil, for some reason) I legitimately did not enjoy and did not finish in Umbrella Corps. I can push through poor and broken gameplay if there's a story that is at least somewhat engaging, but that game's story is little more than what is essentially a progressing series of RE5's Mercenaries stages where you unlock a short file to read between them. So yeah, have fun with that, haha! I look forward to your review.
I don't necessarily agree with your definition of survival horror, but I can see where you're coming from. I tend to think it stays with the games that created it, and not necessarily the developers, although sometimes that is the case. As for Umbrella Corps.......... yeah, not really looking forward to it.
Is anyone down to help on my professional mode play through on 360?
Fun fact:
This game has more Raccoon City than Resident Evil 3 Remake
Wow
what about mercenaries 3d
I don't think I'll be covering it.
Avalanche Reviews you’re this far in might as well, I had so much fun with it.
Keep up the good work.
Take Mercenaries from 5 and put it on the 3DS
Bam Mercenaries 3D, pretty decent for a few hours but nothing substantial
well I did like re3 jill in the re4 village n claire needed leon n ada
vaugna16 except it’s not that simple. There were a lot of compromises to make it work on 3DS like the amount of active AI and AI not immediately in front of the player running at 15fps or lower. It was hardly just a simple case of taking 5’s mercenaries and putting it on 3DS. It’s nowhere near as hectic or smooth of an experiences because of all the compromises and this is coming from someone that bought it day one and played it for dozens of hours.
Hey man great vid, shame you didn’t mention multiplayer I honestly spent 100 of hours on it. The inclusion of zombies in traditional multiplayer modes made matches so chaotic and the heroes mode was a ton of fun. Also not sure if you played it or not but the dlc campaign for ORC is definitely worth checking out if you enjoyed the main game. It offers a completely new cast (the spec ops that were in the trailers prerelease) and had some way better level design and boss fights than the base game. It’s a shame more people didn’t check it out because it shows how much better ORC is with improved level design
Thanks! I meant to mention mp, but I couldn't get any online matches going. I've been hearing the dlc campaign makes for a more fun experience. Going to have to look into that. Not sure I'm down with forking out more money, but I'd be interested if it was in the 5 dollar range.
Avalanche Reviews ah damn shame to hear the multiplayer is dead now, I genuinely felt it was a unique experience. (Umbrella Corps is pretty much just a terrible recreation of it, so you’ll have fun with that) yeah I think in total the dlc campaign is around £16, I remember it coming in two separate packs. A little steep maybe, though the fact you get a campaign that is about the same length of the original and is arguably better I’d say it’s worth it.
Oi man, i haven't watched some of your retrospectives to avoid spoilers, but i like your work, is pretty good. Anyway, with the upcoming Onimusha remake i wonder if you will ever talk about that series, the first one at least is basically resident evil with samurais.
I was hearing this game was fun I gotta try it.
This game could be one of the best RE games ever, if only they just put more work on it.
steam sale? im searching for it right now and i cant find it. is it region locked or something?
He said "wait for a steam sale." It'll be like $5 or so with DLC. Humble bundle sometimes too.
store.steampowered.com/app/209100/Resident_Evil_Operation_Raccoon_City/
Look, ever since RE 4, I stayed away from every major release in the series.
But, after playing 7 and watching your review of this one, it kinda makes me eager to give them a try (and at least, see what i've been missing at the time.)
Thanks Avalanche, your take on the series really motivates me to watch every single video you do in this retrospective.