Thunderstorms and Atlantic Aviation Ramp Fees-Things to Avoid! Best landing Ever?
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So the ramp fee story...goes like this. I have been into Atlantic Midway several times in the past. I have always done so to pick up or drop-off a family member. In doing so, they charge me a "Drop off" fee which is less than the normal "Ramp Fee". On this day, I was picking up my son who was waiting for me in the FBO. I went to the counter to pay my fee. She handed me the $345 fee. I said, no you need to charge me the drop off fee. To which she responded that I wasn't dropping somebody off, I was picking somebody up. I asked her to tell me the difference...either way, I taxi in, I park, I get out of the plane, I go to the counter and pay the bill and then I leave. She acknowledged that there was no difference but that it was again a drop-off fee not a pick up fee. I asked her to call her manager. She picked up the phone and talked to somebody-or acted like she was. She hung it up and said she couldn't do anything about it. I argued my point some more and finally surrendered and left. Two days later, the manager Mike called me. We went through the whole scenario again and he regurgitated what the lady behind the counter told me. I asked him to explain to me the difference between a drop off and a pick up that neccesitated the higher charge. Not surprisingly, he couldn't explain the difference but assured me that he looked into it and I was charged the correct price.
And I thought SFS was a rip off......
Good news, he confirmed they charged me the correct amount. Ha ha that was great.
😂😂😂 regurgitated...I think you're fantastic Mr. P 💫 by the way, in all my commenting glory I forgot to say that I hope you and your family have a nice Thanksgiving Day!
With a drop off your passenger gets out of the airplane, walks thru the FBO, gets into his ride, and is wheels up in a matter of seconds. With the pick up while your passenger is waiting there is time to use the facilities, drink some of that free stale, burned coffee, eat some of those yummie stale free cookies, maybe grab a bag of that special soggy FBO popcorn, and then set a spell on those very special FBO couches. You don't expect Atlantic to be giving that stuff away now do you?
Oh....wait a minute...I suppose a drop off passenger could use the facilities and eat the food while waiting for his ride to show up. Never mind.
Anyway nice grease job and thanks for the ride. Check six.
Looking forward to a greased landing in Gary next time!
I'm taking my Private Pilot written test today! Watching your videos over last few years has caused me to want to pursue this as a career. Thank you!
EDIT: Just took it and I passed!
Alright!!!
Congrats!
Congrats man!
@ryan Yep, about to solo!
Congrats....That is fantastic!
That was the greasiest landing I have ever seen. The cameras didn't even jiggle. Loved the Knife Fight in a phone booth. Thanks greg!
Seriously, I didn't even realize he was on the ground! Pretty sure even passengers wouldn't have been able to tell.
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You know it's a smooth greased landing when your viewer thinks you're in ground effect but you actually just nailed the landing!
Yep, another half a degree pitch would have ballooned it... Perfect
it's a good day when greg uploads
Amen too that.
Absolutely GREASED that landing! Beautiful!
It's not a "greaser" until you have to call tower/ground to confirm you are on the ground! Auto spoilers is the way I usually knew there is weight on the wheels. Of course, that assumes I remembered to lower the gear... You will know that you forgot the gear because it will take MAX power to taxi clear of the runway.
@@arkiefyler or when other pilots say butter 🧈
dang you need to call the EPA leavin that much grease on the runway
Thanks for posting Greg. Am doing my PPL right now and your posts are a great inspiration.Cheers.
...thanks Greg..as always..yet another beautiful and perfect video...
I loved how clearance delivery talked like a normal person this time. Usually it feels like there trying to see if they can talk faster than you can write. 😂
Yeah, that was the only handicap in my training as well, learning to write and abbreviate as fast as they talk. When I eventually succeeded to do just that I wasn‘t able to read my writing….. sigh 😩
Hi Greg! Great to see another P1D video. I hope this message finds you and your loved ones safe and healthy. Keep safe and keep up the great content!
Greg thanks for the info. I am so glad to hear that of you. I was really worried for you even though I don't know you but I have such a good relaxing time with you in the right seat on your flights, I have seen the others pilot videos but yours is the only one I watch now exclusively due to the way you make us feel like we're there with you and teach us, none pilots, what you do while flying alone. it is very interesting and your music selections, when you play them, are great too, they really add to the flight. So happy for you and here's wishing you and yours the best of festive seasons now and on through to the New Year.
Greg, may have seen it before, but your video are always a joy to watch and learn! Thank you Sir :)
I learned so much from your videos about flying IFR, and I appreciate your uploads so much, as well as so much of the other youtubers. Thank you! Just got my commercial done and gonna transition out of the military here in a couple months to become a CFI and hopefully go to an airline when they recover someday. You all have helped to inspire me in my journey.
Love the reaction to your "smooth as butter" landing!
Premier 1 Driver videos are just absolutely great fun to watch. I use these videos as a guide to flying the Premier 1 in the X-Plane 11 flight simulation, and almost get the same level of satisfaction as if I was flying a real one. Keep em coming Greg, and thank you for creating this channel. All the best for 2021.
Love these ride along's. Pilot has so much confidence and is laid-back which makes it just a joy to watch. It's almost like actually being in the cockpit. Thanks!
Once again thank you for your time in putting this video.
Most of all Happy Thanksgiving.
Stay safe.
"Trip Advisor" write up......... That's good stuff!
Greg I always find your content enjoyable as a former pilot it’s nice to ride along at the flight levels and the arrivals and departures. Thanks again!
Greg, thanks for allowing us to fly along with you. I enjoy seeing the ride from up front . While in the Air Force I had a ride up front behind the FO on a DC-9 cargo jet. Great fun .
Thanks for sharing Greg. You have a great channel, even though you were an f16 pilot. I was an F15E mechanic, I am a little biased. Love the videos. You are very professional. Keep up the great work.
Beautiful coming in Chicago...thanks for "sharing" the flight Greg! Oh and very nice landing!
My pleasure!!
I’ve known alot of pilots and you are impressive! Thanks for the ride!
Very smooth landing. Great flight, quite challenging
When you touched down on 4R I swear, my own OH MY came out almost in sync with you on the video. Sweet!
I admire your teaching skills. Thank you for a great lesson on ground steering.
Glad you enjoy it!
Thanks for taking us on another great trip!!
I loved the way you picked your way thru the cells, you are a professional!
Beautiful photography and your editing is spot on. I feel like I am in the FO seat! Both a exciting and satisfying experience.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Greg after wachting all your video i'm finally convinced myself to take a flight training next spring,i'm 66 and it's been on my bucket list for years, your videos are inspiring Happy Thanksgiving
That is awesome! Happy Thanksgiving to you as well!
Thank you Greg for bringing us with you.
Always a treat, informative and enjoyable....thx.
Awesome Flight & Excellent Landing Greg! In case I didn't mention it the last time I watched. I keep learning more & more from you watching you for the second time... I would be honored to meet you someday... Thank you Greg... Godspeed...
You are always so critical of your landings that to hear you happy with a landing was a great moment. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours! 🌈❤
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well!
@@gregmink happy thanksgiving Greg blessing to your family from Canada
Reminded “The” Baron Pilot the other day that pilots are always judged by their landing (no matter all the other skills/knowledge required) … you won the Gold Medal on this one! Great, informative flight. Thanks!!!
Thanks!
Gold....lol...no, how about Titanium!!!
Great job navigating those thunderstorms! Awesome greaser landing. I love that sound when the wheels kiss the ground. Definitely your best landing yet in 390GM. Very professional job!!! Always a pleasure to watch! Thanks again Greg!!
Northwest Indiana my old stomping grounds...Hobart. Love to see those videos on that area. Thank you again for going forward with all those videos even after that episode of someone calling you into the FAA...Keep them coming sir!
Awesome landing! Couldn’t even tell when you touched down.
Me neither 😂
you are living the dream while the rest of us are getting by on commercial. great job. enjoy your videos. came up in my recommendations maybe 6 months ago where you were driving your porsche to the airfield to fly somewhere. montana I think.
Glad to have you on board!
Greg, do you have a CFI ticket? Would love to take lessons from you, you are so proficient in explaining the instruments and their functions, keep those videos coming, and don’t wait so long in putting them out, postal pete
@@bcgcbcbbccbc4793 I had it but haven't renewed it in a long time.
does the FAA require you to state these videos are for entertainment use and not a substitute for actual flight training?
@@mjphillips76 LOL there's always one. If that curious why not look it up yourself? And then write to all RUclipsrs and make sure they comply.
As always, thank you sir for sharing. Just love the flights and your narration!. So educational.
Thanks Greg. Always fun to go along with you.
Damn that landing 😍 was amazing! Nice job Capt!
I keep hoping to hear you on Indy approach or see you when I’m flying the ILS 36 at exec. Maybe one day.
Man, a great watch! Makes me reminisce back to my opportunity to fly right seat in a Phenom 100 with a flying buddy of mine who is a PALS pilot. As a private pilot SEL and having some ATC training back in the 90's, getting an opportunity to handle the radios and busy airspace and take the controls on a couple of occasions was enough to make me giddy like a kid in a candy store. Thanks for posting your videos. I watch these to learn more and enjoy!
I just saw this on my list in You Tube sorry I missed it earlier. Fantastic safe maneuvering through bad weather. Better to be overly cautious than overly confident! You’re a great pilot!
Man i love waking up to Zero Golf Mike in the morning!!
I think he's married
Smells like....Flying!!
That’s what she said! 😜
Nothing personal but it’s “Gulf”
@@1musicsearcher it’s Golf.
Beautiful landing man
Love how you keep it real, Greg! Thanks for the descript narration. 👍👍 I may be biased my friend, but I rank you as #1 alongside Citation Max! You guys rock! Your friend and loyal follower, Mike!
Great landing...had to back it up and watch it again......that weather leaving was gross....great job getting through that!
dang you need to call the EPA leavin that much grease on the runway
How kind of the manager to call you and confirm that ripping you off was indeed fully intentional. :P
salt right into the wound
It’s called, “bait and switch” by used car salesmen...
Another great video Greg. Some of these give one the chance to follow the flight step by step. This is one of them.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for taking us along.
That landing was so smooth, I thought that you were floating down the runway
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Landing! Nice management staying ahead of the weather too! Happy 🦃 Day!
...Bermuda.. Bahamas...and then down to Kokomo...(or Midway)...always good to see you Greg..thanks again for sharing...and inviting us again to fly along with you...
Another great video Greg. Elegantly picked your way through those storms. The big city airports sure think a lot of their real estate. Best to you and your family this holiday season. ✈️🎄
There are very few things in life as good as nailing that perfect landing :-)
I can think of a few others, but that is one of them!
RIP Chuck Yeager. I'd wish him Godspeed, but I think he had that covered.
Greg, Loved your remark “ speed of stink.” Great!😎 Nasty weather!
Great video Greg, like sitting in the cockpit next to you (which I would love to do). You make the trip so enjoyable with all the technical stuff and your great commentary. I used to fly into Indianapolis regularly for my job in IT, now retired.
Dang, Steveo couldn't have beaten that landing!
Better not forget to text your wife Greg, if she's anything like mine she can get angrier than that storm you were trying to avoid haha.
@Commenter2 It was a joke mate.
Great riding along again!! Been missing it! Happy Thanksgiving and have a Merry Christmas!
Great bumper music for the deplane phase too
That buttery landing ... jeez dude, save some trim for the rest of us!
That's very funny!
GREAT landing Greg. Your ramp fee seems outrageously hi.
Outrageous for sure.
@@gregmink Has this practice changed over the years? Back when I was an active Single-engine IFR/ASL, I parked at both KOKC and KDAL, left the plane there several hours, and was charged not a single dime, even though bought no fuel or services, and was even offered a free freshly-baked cookie. Would Atlantic/MDW charge $300+ for a C172SP, or is it based on weight or some other factor?
@@tonyphillips910 The facility fees are based off aircraft size. Also, buying fuel waves the fees. I believe if you buy 15 gallons, that waves the fee on a single engine piston.
Thank you once again for fab video, audio and editing, most grateful. 🇬🇧
Always enjoy flying with you.
You think they’d wave the charge especially if you buy fuel, or at the very least, reduce it.
That landing was good!!! That investment in your auto-land system was really worth the money!! 😂
Why sweat it when computers can do the grunt work for you? LOL...
I just do like you taught me Kris...close my eyes and hope for the best!
It was a Grease Job on that landing. This is the best video I have ever seen regarding how to penetrate a line of big weather. Very Professional. thanks !!
Thanks for the ride! Fun to see the weather from your side, I always wonder if my descriptions of the storms are helping out at all...lots of people are up flying with Nexrad, so was good to see how delayed that info is to them as apposed to onboard radar...we only see precip areas and precip intensity, no way to tell the cloud heights so we really rely on pireps, especially in approach control
"Knife fight in a phone booth!" :-)
I think you forgot Stevo1kinevo, he flew in your plane one time remember?
according to the scuttlebutt, There is a story there that I don't know if Greg wants to go into.
@@mjphillips76 , so what's the story? We saw vid of their flight together. What magical intel do you have via scuttlebutt?
My son and I always look forward to watching your videos, and my seven year old son Rylan loves aviation. Blue Skies ahead from Battle Creek, Michigan.
straight down the middle and in like butter. Wow that was smooth... especially considering all the turbulence. Props Greg. "We're not worthy.. we're not worthy!"
After that dude reported you, you don’t post weekly videos anymore and we miss that 😩😞
Well the bigger issue is editing and my day job. I just don't have a ton of free time.
@@gregmink don’t edit it that much. We will watch it all 🥰
@Premier 1 Driver Greg, my reasoning for wanting to meet you revolves around my writings. I am a private pilot but never got beyond for several reasons, although I've flown 15 different aircraft to include the Grob 109 Sailplane in Ft. Wayne and T-28 Trojan in Texas. I moved around a lot to include living 20-years in Canada where I was given a modified C152 to fly at will. All I had to do was put gas in it for eight-years. I developed a back injury in 2010 and went through many procedures and medications, one of them being Oxycodone. I was and have never been addicted to it, but because of the bad rap it has received, I stopped flying for fear of losing my medical. I returned to the US in 2014 and continued my writing. You can see my six-books on Amazon. I'm writing a 7th. I have been featured in a magazine called The Universal Pages. Each of my main characters flies a personal jet of some type. The primary character flies a rebuilt Polish TS-11 Iskra. So the reason for meeting you is to get a better understanding of what it's like to sit in one's own jet, preparation, phraseology, etc. BTW, while in Canada, I was on the airport escort security detail at Calgary International. I got to meet and sit in the seat of the former Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Not many Americans can make that statement. Also I got to meet two F-16 pilots on their visit and the picture taken of me with them is used in two of my books. As you look at my profile picture, that's the same picture with the pilot's edited out. So again these are my reasons for wanting to meet you.
I’ve missed your videos Greg. I know this is going to be a silly question but are those Beechcraft rudder pedals?
pretty sure Premier's were made by Beechcraft
@@PlaneGeek007 I thought that might be the case, but had never heard that before.
@@navy_flyer2331 gotcha. I never knew Beechcraft made Premier.
Enjoyed your slight power adjustments on final approach very informative concerning flying around problematic weather
a VERY INSTRUCTIONAL AND ENJOABLE FLIGHT, THANK YOU GREG.
Thank you!
Next time I take my wife in for a CT scan, I'm going to ask for the "drop off" fee...😉
Normal pilots like Greg....Never fly into a storm, NEVER
Hurricane Hunters....Hold my beer
Be like Greg ;)
Hope you and your family have a Happy Thanksgiving.
Thanks for flying and showing us when you do it. :)
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well!
I really appreciate you explaining what you're doing and why in these videos it's almost like being in Ground School
Great vid , thanks for sharing your flights !!
The humongous tax rates in Illinois, is causing a lot of this. It has to be.
It’s just one of many states trying to grasp ahold of the finances during corona
One of the best instructional videos for IFR procedures and weather avoidance. It is great practice to follow along by inserting the route into Foreflight. Well done!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the answer to the question on how you steer the plane w/o a tiller.
Greg it's great it see a video from you again hope to see more and man that landing was amazing.👍🏿 It's like I didn't even hear the wheels hit the ground.
Just started watching Greg, not a pilot but enjoy the avionics and environment. Thanks for letting us fly with you...Tim
A very informative video
thank you.
Im in England so nice to see some of the airports you fly into. And the citys you fly over.
My pleasure!
Thank you for your explanation of taxiing! Happy Thanksgiving!
Thoroughly enjoyable thankyou for sharing!
Thank you for your you tubes , really enjoy them
Appreciate you took the time to explain how to steer the plane on the ground. I was familiar, but it was nice to have a quick lesson for us non pilot fans. Thanks.
I really enjoy your explanation on different aspects of flying. You are such a nice individual.
Oh thank you!
That was a slick landing. Doesn’t get any better
Another thing to be thankful for this crazy year: a new video from @premier1driver! Thank you for continuing to post, Gregg! Wishing you and yours a happy holidays! 🥰🥳🇺🇸
Same to you!
SWEET landing Greg! Thanks for vectoring us around those buildups...
Yeah we needed to stay out of those!
Landing so smooth i couldn't even tell the touch down ! Great job !
Hey Greg, busy flight working through that weather. Nice job. Was cool that you felt good about the landing even before the wheels touched the runway. Nice video. Thanks.