The Powerful 6.8spc Round vs. GEL / MEAT / & BONE
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I'm really sad to say and announce that Stand1Armory is having to close down their business. They're being sued by an EX employee for some BS reasons...this is causing them to have to close up shop. It's really sucks, S1A makes some of the BEST bulk competition ammo on the market!
GY6vids 😢 sad news indeed.. New subscriber here. Love your vids man very professional, with a mix of lightheadedness,. Lots of good information, educational. Keep up the good work brother
Bro what is your name?
GY6vids damn that sucks so much ass. Sorry to hear that. Really sad when all it takes is one person to destroy something these days. Just hope the company will bounce back.
We're does the ex employee live?
GY6vids I have toured the Hornaday factory before and they hand inspect all ammunition. Same as stand1armory.
Thanks for throwing in that explanation about how it's inflicting as much damage as possible and killing an animal quickly is the desired effect. A lot of people don't understand that.
Iv'e been using the 6.8SPC for 10 years. Have taken hog's, coyotes and deer with it out to 290 yards. Great round and I believe it is the best hunting caliber available in the AR-15 platform.
In all honesty, the 6.8 SPC is better than the 5.56. The results speak for themselves. I think this is what the military needs.
I think it was originally developed for the military
bub cough cough keep an eye in the up coming months and the future holds for our service members. they are looking at this
Yeah, absolutely. Just not as prevalent now as was hoped. Like ‘Small Arms Solutions’ Chris B says, the main companies are trying to recoup their R & D costs even now...
@@dontall71 yep IT was
depends on the load. Compared to Mk262 the SPC has nothing over the 5.56 other than raw kinetic energy within 300 yards or so.
Glad to see you all enjoying the video, many days of filming go into making these videos, not to mention hours editing. Please continue to support GY6vids by "Liking" "Sharing" the content and SUBSCRIBING to by GY6vids and GY6slowmo...Thanks for all the support and kind words below, can't respond to them all, but I see them;-)
High quality stuff as always :D
GY6vids Think you'll do a review of H&MG's STG44 reproduction?
Is there any way you can get a grenade launcher and shoot a propane tank
If you ever feel like making a silly video, use a Speech Jammer while trying to explain something technical, like long range ballistics or the parallax between sights and the barrel and we'll laugh ourselves silly.
"If you can't laugh at yourself, someone else surely will." -Me
GY6vids I've had the 6.8spc round in an ar platform for about 5 years now and I love it. Excellent video. I would like to see a video with it out to 500yds and maybe some data to go with it.
love the idea of long range gel tests
Great video I am an avid hunter and I have been hunting with a 6.8 spc going on 5 years. The 6.8 has never failed me when hunting small or big game in New Mexico.
I love the round too! Been hunting with mine for 2 yrs.
@@pickledcottoncandy Still working good on Texas hogs in 2022!
I have a 6.8 SPC with an 18” barrel. It’s a real tack driver. It has proven itself as an extremely effective pig killer. Only issue is ammo availability. Because of this, I recently started hand loading the round. So far, results are good, but not quite what I’m looking for. I’m confident I’ll have the right recipe figured out shortly. Keep up the great work.
I've had a 6.8 for 3 yrs now and it's a very accurate round. My a.r. upper was built with an 18 in. Barrel from shilen. I use the 110 gr Hornady factory load. Everything I have shot with it hit the ground immediately. We have very large axis here in Tom Green county and this gun is plenty Good for the biggest of them. I highly recommend it in a good a.r.
I would be interested in more 6.8 videos! It's an interesting cartridge I'd like to get into. Heard it was supposed to be the cross between an AR's 5.56 and an AK's 7.62. Lot of stopping power but also speed and distance.
Instead of going by what you've heard, why don't you read some actual material about the round? We have this thing called Google. You can use it to find ALLLLLLL sorts of stuff. Even stuff about 6.8 SPC.
This round has absolutely nothing to do with the military. They're testing completely different ammo.
You should use the previously mentioned Google to learn the difference.
@@blazer6248 : Jordanians and the Saudis have been using the 6.8 with their militaries.
Definitely want to see what happens at longer ranges compared to up close
Please do a second video at like 100+ yards
;-) oh just you wait!
GY6vids love ur channel been watching since the start
Seconded--I've never shot anything/anyone at 30 feet, while quite a few at 50-120m. Would like to know how different 6.8 options perform at that range. Would definitely appreciate it.
All you and your crews work is greatly appreciated and it would be awesome to see how the system performs at a longer range
Idk why your channel doesnt have more subs,keep up man, greetings from Brazil!
Dude, the production of your vids are awesome. Great job.
Excellent review, thanks. I've been interested in this round for years, I wanted my first M4 to Be 6.8, got talked out of it into 5.56/.223 but it's still on my list ...glad to know it hasn't been given up on just yet
Great content. Always love your scientific approach! The production is excellent, keep up the good work!
I am really fascinated with the new 6.8 round and I would love a video showing it's performance at longer range.
@william terry it's actually a very handy round. We use the 6.8 on hogs mostly and has out performed all the other rounds we have used in a AR15 Platform.
120gr SST isn't a short fat bullet either. It is suprising how well they shoot out to 600 yards.
@william terryum.. yea, I've been shooting long range stuff for 18 years. I must add I've never shot factory ammo in a 6.8, only reloads so I can't compare that.
My 6.8 reloads average 400-415 fps faster than the 7.62x39 in the same barrel length. I'll look for my load workup data for the 7.62x39. It wasn't very impressive at all on velocity.
@william terry
The difference between 6.8 and 7.62x39 is similar to the difference between 7.62x39 and 5.56. Is that significant? You be the judge.
William Terry-Buy both 6.5 &6.8 and test both then make an educated statement. Both bullets stop expanding around the same threshold, The 6.8 with factory ammo starts off apx 100fps faster with the same weight bullet and same length barrel. The Grendel catches up but too late to make any worthwhile difference at hunting ranges. If all you are doing is poking holes in paper then the 224 Valkyrie will beat the 6.5 Grendel in exterior ballistics. The 6mmAR will also.
The Immortal wait wait wait. You’re saying 6.8 and 556 have the same ballistics? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Andrew thank you for all the time and work you invest into these vids
I love your vids and really appreciate it.
Thank you for saying that....countless days of work go into each one, and more $$$ than I care to admit. Thank you for LIKING and SHARING the content.
This round should DEFINITELY be more popular.
terry why does it suck or what about it sucks?
@william terry BS
223 79 gr drt is better
william terry testing shows the 6.8 has a longer range so explain exactly what you mean by shooting flatter?
@@Jjb-gk4ce it doesnt bro...5.56 ammo have better bc and better velocity. 77gr TMK bc @420 with muzzle velocity of 2800 fps out of 20" barrel.
Fantastic stuff. Outstanding work.
You do such a great job on this videos and learn alot as well. Thanks again and keep on keeping on.
Really nice video, to the point and very informative/well edited. Love the slow motion too.
I have an MC6 in 5.56. Easily the best rifle I own. Modern Outfitters is one of my favorite places to shop and shoot.
im sold. absolutely devastating. love the energy dump in the first 12 inches.
That is a bad ass round! I figured it would be a little better than a 5.56 but I was very wrong. Keep the videos comin man!!
The editing on this video was so nice. No BS just what I cam to see!!
Would love to see a follow up on this video. YES PLEASE! Love the SST. Stupid accurate and I'm yet to loose a Whitetail using this round. Last one I took was an 8 pt buck 168lbs dressed. It went all of 15 feet a dropped. The heart disintegrated, lungs were butter and the exit wound...daaaaayuum. They forever have me as a customer. Thanks for the videos. Spot on as always.
We shot a bunch of deer and hogs 2007-2008 with both the 6.8 and 6.5. The 6.5 bullets wouldn't expand very well and we were getting higher velocity out of 16" 6.8 barrels along with better bullet performance so we chose the 6.8 for the family.
Hey buddy - Thanks for the "inhumane" clarification! Peeps would be amazed at how many times I've heard that word while talking about hunting rounds!
Thanks a lot for the vid, Andrew! G'stuff as always!
I love the 6.8 SPC, it's my favorite intermediate caliber cartridge (if only the rifles weren't so damn expensive). The Federal Gold Dot rounds being my favorite.
What a great video. Keep em coming
Great vid. I would love to see more with the 6.8spc
I love your videos keep up the good work
Excellent vid, more please!!! Would like to see that round used in longer ranged shots.
Outstanding. Great product. Excellent content. Quality is 2nd to none. Very impressive round & results.
You are the best RUclipsr i have watched love your vids
Thank you for the support! Much appreciated.
Great work and excellent video! Thanks for putting the imagery up. Please ring it out to 100 yards plus when you get a chance, thank you.
Thank you so very much love to see more 6.8
Excellent video! I just received a box of Hornady 120gr SST and a box of Federal 115gr Fusion to test for accuracy in my 18" 6.8 , which ever shoots the tighter group is what I'll use. I've done some hand loading of the 6.8 with 95gr Barnes TTSX but couldn't get less tan a 1-1/4 inch group at 100 yards. So I'll give the store bought a try.
Amazing video, by the way!😁
looking forward to your next video brotha 👍🏼
Great job on this video. Starting to become a 6.8 fan. The Russian Roulette video with the 500 magnum is still my favorite though.
6.5 Grendel next.
LastCaress7 YEESSS!! PLEASE ANDREW!
This guy used to teach youngsters what it means to work hard, be great, and succeed educationally. Good to see you teaching a broader range of people something you enjoy. Great videos and quality too. Keep it up man 👍
;-) don't know who you are...but I'm guessing you know/knew me outside of all this craziness ;-)
+GY6vids Upward Bound my man. You were a good motivater and mentor then as you are now.
JOSH!!!!!! Hey brother. Hope all is well on your end.
+GY6vids Doing great man. No complaints here.
That is some serious impact. Makes me want to scrap the 308 project I have in mind and get into that rifle. The Recoil looked a little punchy, but coming from a round like that, it would be expected. Thank you for the upload.
10 MILLION THUMBS WAAAY UP !!!!!!! on this 1 - thank you thank thank you - and yes you MUST do a 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900, 1000 meter video now - love the gun, ammo, video ... love it all
Really like that you shoot trough meat. Nice having a steady stream of gy6 vids recently!
Yes, another video!!
great review,how did I miss this 2 years ago lol.
Been hinging with the 6.8 for years. It's one of my favorites
Great video bro
Bummer to see Stand One closing, such a great ammo company. Great vid
No one has a good side by side review of the 6.8 spc vs the 6.5 Grendel. My purpose is a boar and deer rifle off the AR 15 PLATFORM without entering into an AR 10 via 308. Ballistics and devestation between the two? 200 yards would be good since that's an average kill shot. Love your videos and the honesty you bring to the table. Cheers
I'll have to look into that comparison...should be a good one yeah 200-300 would be best
GY6vids fantastic. I'm hoping I keep seeing 6.5 grendal 1000 yd videos but no long range on the 6.8 spc. I'm not convinced either one is an effective 1000 yd cartridge in the least. I'm interested solely in functionality and effective average range results Your awesome!
@@thebbhic Silver State Armory made a long range round for a short time but I doubt you would be able to find any. I think 0-600 is more in the 6.8 SPC's effective range. You could put it on paper at 1000 but I wouldn't count on humane kills by any means.
Get a 6.5 Grendel you wont be disappointed. 6.8spc is a good round ,but the 6.5 Grendel is the best.
The grendel is flatter long range. I know that people are hitting piper at 1k yards, but I dont think it has enough energy to harvest game at that distance. Where the 6.8 shines is through a short barrel.
I love my 6.8's. Especially the SBR
For Q&A: I'm kind of new to the channel but really enjoy the content, so i don't know if you've said, but have you ever had a firearm related accident? If so what was the worst incident?
Yes I have, I have had a accidental discharge(In Home) due to firearm malfunction. Luckily I was following proper firearms safety and had the gun pointed in a safe direction...the only thing damaged was drywall and my hearing lol.
Great video. I just added a Bushmaster ACR in 6.8 (already have an LWRC Six8) and can't wait to put some lead downrange. 6.8 isn't popular (William Terry makes a habit of going to 6.8 videos and making inane comments) but it sure is effective.
Keep up the amazing work. By far and away the best reviewer on RUclips, and frankly reviewer period.
Any chance you'd be willing to review the Hudson H9 or the new CZ-75 SP-01 Tactical? And, of course, the meme gun SilencerCo Maxim 9.
Hello happy Monday. Have a great day and thanks for sharing.
Great review. Do the LWRC 6.8 rifle next.
Thank you for saying that more people need to realize that
Another great video! Let's see some long range shooting. Keep up the great work GY6
New subscriber love the video bro
Welcome to GY6vids
I love Modern Outfitters! Im right down the road from them. How did you link up with them?
Good demostration
Great video mate! Hornady vmax would be interesting! Keep on rocking, your hard work is noticed.
vmax is a different category
I chose the 6.8 SPC-II because I wanted a light weight rifle with low recoil for my children to hunt with. I also like guns to be usable for defense when possible. The AR-15 naturally fits that category.
I like my 5.56 rounds (actually 223 Wylde), and have hunted with 100% success with them, but wanted more power. Wildcats or rare rounds were off the table for me. I do reload a bit, but also want to be able to buy ammo in a need be situation...so this left me to choose from 300BO, 6.5 Grendel, or the 6.8.
The 300BO drops too fast for my liking as a rifle round, although if one wants a pistol it is a great choice.
The 6.5 seems to be a good choice for long range (because of ballistic coefficency and sectional density) of the bullets used, but at hunting distances the 6.8 out performs it, especially when using a barrel length I would want to carry hunting. I don't want hike around with a barrel over 16," much less 20-24." I like light weight platforms...and I don't shoot deer or hogs over 300 yards, much less over 400 yards...and if I did, even the Grendel would be insufficient at those distances since bullet expansion/performance would be unreliable at those distances in either the 6.5 Grendel or the 6.8 SPC/SPC-II. Not trying to bust the 6.5 Grendel, but I also considered it also has a weaker bolt and seems to have more issues with reliability and durability of components as a result of chamber/case dimensions and bolt strengths. The case taper of the 6.5 Grendel is half of that of the 6.8 and the 5.56, and seems to make the 6.8 and 5.56 more reliable for feeding/extraction. Once I get a set up complete, I want it to run. I am sure some Grendels are 100%, but it seems reliability reports favor the 6.8.
The 6.8 allows us to choose good bullets designed for hunting (Cavity Back Bullets, TSX, TTSX, Accubond, and others), brass isn't hard to find, and we can find loaded hunting ammo for it if we want/need to (Federal Fusion, Hog Hammer, and others).
When loaded in their safe "max loads" (I put quotes because I am not a wildcat guy that tests for peak pressures or pushes the envelope), with similar bullet weights the 6.8 has a muzzle velocity of around 125-250 fps faster (depending on load) from barrels I am willing to carry while hunting (12.5-16")...and the 6.8 stays ahead in performance even with a lower BC until you get around 250 yards, and from 250-300 they are about tied. Most of my hunting is less than 200 yards, and 300 yards would be max for me. For those pushing the 6.8 to its max, I understand the 6.8 stays ahead of the 6.5 Grendel much longer, but to be honest, I didn't really consider that since it doesn't apply to me.
I don't hunt over 300 yards. Some hunters may go out further, but I don't. I am sure very few shots should be taken between 300-400 yards on deer or hogs with any AR-15 platform. This isn't the AR-10 type of power. It is a light weight platform, and should be used as such...but it certainly offers the power I need to reach out the ranges I hunt (300 yards and less...mostly under 200 yards). Neither ammo carries enough power for bullets to reliably expand at distances over 400 yards...even if you could hit the target humanly. Without bullet expansion, your target shrinks. You have to be very precise and very accurate. Body shots now must be nearly dead center of the vitals. Brain shots doesn't leave enough margin for error at that distance for shooter, wind, or error in range estimation that far out.
Finally, the 6.8 fits nicely into how I like to sight my rifles in for hunting. I do not sight in at 100 yards, nor do I use the Maximum Point Blank Range will put the far zero around 210-215 yards. While both methods can work, I find the 100 yard zero method requires me to remember too much as it pertains to bullet drop from 150-300 yards, and I don't want to error on my memory. Meanwhile, I find the MPBR method to build in too much error in one's shot, for at max distance around 250 you have no room for error in your shooting with that method since that method adds about 4" of error BUILT IN to your aiming (if you cut the kill zone in half...8" / 2 = 4"). This method, it is less precise, and therefore I don't recommend it...so I cut my margin of error to 1.25" and recalculate the "PBR" using what I call Precision Point Blank Range...as long range and shooting long range are two different things. When hunting, you need your hits to be effective and ethical, and you need your bullet to not just "hit" but to perform (causing damage the vitals).
Therefore, for ME seeking precision when I hunt, I seek to reduce the built in error...not increase it. Knowing where my bullet will hit in relationship to the center of the kill zone is important when hunting. When using the MPBR, my bullets would be the bottom of the kill zone at far distances, and as a result, if I happen to shoot low (or even left or right since the kill zone is generally oblique in shape) I would not have an ethical shot. Add lack of expansion and energy to the equation and you don't have an ethical kill. By using the PRECISION Point Blank Range and setting my far zero to 150 yards instead of the MPBR of 210, I will cut the built in error of precision three to four fold, making for much more ethical kills...and know you just need to know the approximate bullet drop at 200, 250, and 300 yards. What is cool for ME is these numbers are easy to remember with the 6.8...being ~3", ~6," and ~12" respectively. By knowing the drop at these three distances I can estimate 225 and 275 and adjust. And when less shooting 175 my built in error will remain within 1 - 1.25" (1 & 1/4" max error) of center instead of having having 4" of error built in. I am not a perfect shooter, and want room for error, allowance for wind, or error in minor range estimation. AND, I still don't want to have my bullets perform, and don't hunt beyond a bullet's performance range or MY ABILITIES.
The 6.8 fits my goals well.
Shot a pronghorn in Colorado with factory Hornady 120gr SST out of my 16" ARP barreled AR. About 100 yards head on. Bullet hit dead center, buck tried to take a step back, but he just collapsed, drt. Found the core just under the membrane of a hind quarter. Never found any jacket, but almost complete lengthwise penetration! Not an ounce of meat lost. Got to see the whole thing through the scope because there is so little recoil. I'm not a long range type of hunter, so the 6.8 suits me great.
Hey Andrew I know this is quite a while after the original posting of the video. But would love to see some affects on ballistic gel during long range shooting. Keep up the solid work man
Thank you, yeah I plan on it.
Awesome video. You should make a video about shooting incendiary rounds into the jelly stuff if you don't already have one. Got yourself a new sub 👍
Great stuff as always! Just a question, what do you use to film the slow motion and what speed do you usually playback at?
I wanna see this round go against barriers and long range shooting
My LWRCi's in the 6.8 platform are extremely durable, lethal and so fun to shoot. The round has a punch.
I love ur channel I've been watching since the start
Can't say thank you enough for the support! Thank you for "LIKING" and "SHARING"
GY6vids no thank you
GY6vids it has been a fun ride that I don't want to end
It won't! ;-)
Love my 6.8, still enjoy shooting 5.56,but I've become a big fan of this round
Yeah it’s a solid caliber
@@GY6vids ammo is hard to find but target shooting on the range is alot of fun ..accurate rifle, good kick
Hey GY6
Love the video's, thank you.
1) 'In the face' episodes no longer a thing?
2) what are your thoughts on steel cased ammo?
Thank you for the support!
No it's still a think, just need fans to be more active in supporting that channel. It is a ton of work for very little return to produce those videos on the 2nd channel. Takes over 3 days to make each of those heads, and a full day to film them(Travel over an hour to our filming spots).
Steel case ammo is fine for pistols that are meant for abuse...but can be tough on extractors.
I have an Olympic arms 6.8spc topped with a vortex 3-12x44 and love it
damn,love to see more,damn that'd hurt bad.
Awesome vid👍👍,6.5 grendel next?
greeting from Costa Rica! love your vids keep it up! also, how long does it take to film one of these vids? I see that the quality of them is very good
Anywhere form 1-2 weeks from start to finish. Plus Post Production which takes about average of 50-100hours. Thanks for the support.
would definitely like to see some long range gel tests
Great video, I can see how the SST will make a good hunting bullet, I'll give them a try in my 6.8 and check the accuracy. I have a 1:11 twist in an 18 inch barrel, which I think may better for lighter bullets but I'll see how it works out.
11 twist will handle bullets up to 130gr and even the 140gr Berger.
What a performance!
"No one can survive that! Even very large game would die after the first round."
"Great video!"
I’m an old Veteran. This 6.8 round looks devastating.
Seeing that slow internal explosion is very satisfying
Please sir, may we have another? Video that is. Great work.
Nice. Try the 7.62x39mm 8M3 ammo. sgammo has it for sale and it's supposed to be the real deal.
Great video as usual!
Thank you for all your hard work.
2nd video good stuff man
Anyone else see that gnarly flash when the gel snapped back at 2:55?
100% hand inspection means you don't have process control. It is also a significant time and financial waste. My immediate thought is the inherent low quality of the ammunition.
I have a custom built mega arms ar15 with an ar performance barrel chambered in 6.8 spc and i can validate that it is extremely accurate!
Love the MC6
I would love to see some more long distance ballistic test in some rifle calibers. No one seems to do that.
Curious about that flash explosion 4 to 6 inches inside the gel. It left some burn spots in the wound cavity. Have you determined a cause for that? Some unburned powder perhaps that went off in the gel?
2 questions for you:
Can you test 12GA slugs and shot in your point blank series?
And what is that song that plays during the slow motion in this video?
Something I have considered doing and I'm sure it will happen.
Custom song I purchased the right to.
Love those test
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Love the vids mate, keep up the good work, I'm new to air rifle shooting and struggling with my left eye being dominant and being right handed, any tips?
only think I have seen work is really forcing your left eye closed and using the right eye....Practice Practice Practice!
GY6vids Thanks for the reply, I will keep practising 🤠🔫