Picking the right AR cartridge for your needs
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2019
- This is a comparison of .223 Remington, 22 Nosler, 224 Valkyrie, and 6.5 Grendel. Which one is the perfect cartridge for you AR-15? It depends on your needs.
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"Guys in funny jackets, shooting groups to win matches." Words of wisdom
after checking my needs (which mostly consist of hunting rabbits), I have no choice but to go with .50 BMG.
Might have a issue with hitting the vitals.
Leave your skinning knife at home!
you mean "wabbits."
LMAO 🤣 🤣 🤣
@@bmstylee u funny
A few years ago, a friend let me bust a few rounds from his AR in 6.5 Grendel (6.7 actual!).
It was love at first ring of the steel for me! 5 for 5 at 500 yards! The more research I did into this cartridge, the more I had to have one.
I chose a 20" HBAR, as Grendel likes a longer barrel. NO REGRETS!!!
With Grendel, I feel the AR has finally grown up. A true Rifle with the capability to reach out several hundred yards. And with less than half the recoil of a .308! Grendel is now my GO TO platform.
I knew I made the right choice on my Grendel.
6.5 grendel can kiss my grendel
Yes....yes you did. Tell me more...
@venom snake 6.5 Grendel is for those whom are transported about within a short bus - fact
The AR platform is an engineering marvel. I do not care for it. I won't own one. My 6.5 Grendel began life as a Mini-30. It is easily a better rifle than a 6.5 Grendel AR. If I were going to own a .224 Valkyrie. I disagree with your proclamation that owning a .223. I don't really see a use for .223/5.56. The 6.5 Grendel is best for me since I have 2 excellent 6.5x55 SE Mausers.
@@magicdaveable why do you think a 6.5 grendel in a mini 30 platform is better than the ar platform ? Just curious
6.5 Grendel!
Your mock ups really helped illustrate your points, thanks for sharing
One of the best thought out and information backed cartridge/ reloading video's I have ever seen. Your knowledge coupled with experience+time+testing=trustworthy, dependable, and knowledgeable data. A formula rarely found on RUclips. Your channel will be shared with many. Thank you for your dedication and time invested in these video's.
Really enjoy the deep discussions like this. It makes you think.
I've been reloading since '86 and I love your technical analysis of reloading... I'm still learning new stuff!
Im probably the only person here, but i shoot the 6.5 Grendel in a bolt action rifle. And i really love the cartridge. Huge performance in such a small good looking package. Plus no recoil. Im a bolt gun fanatic.
Absolutely nothing wrong with a bolt action rifle. Rock what you got. 2A 👍
I seen this same comment on a nutnfancy video.. Hmm..
Where did you find that? I own an AR15 but I enjoy shooting bolt guns more. I'm an odd duck myself. I want a 223 bolt gun.
@@bmstylee howa 1500
I just got a howa 1500 in .300 blk out for suppressor use when I get approved. On month 5 right now. Ive been eyeing another in either 6.5 grendel or 7.62x39. I love those mini action howas.
One of my favorite channels hands down. Great job putting out some great info for the shooting community!!!
Took me about 400 rounds to figure out the 224 Valkyrie. I really like the way it shoots, but I only shoot steel and paper with it so far. Settled on the 88 ELD and RL-19. The secret for me was overall length. Once I loaded to magazine length, the groups shrank to sub MOA. Built a 6.8 SPC 16" light barrel and love it. Way more energy for Hogs and Deer over the 223. And yes, I have shot and killed deer with the .223 Wylde, but I shoot 70 gr Barnes bullets and they do a very nice job on deer and hogs here in Texas. I am building a light barreled 6.5 Grendel this weekend and expect good things from it as well. I finally got on the AR band wagon a few years back and now I am fully bought in. I have set up all my AR's essentially the same to accept the clip on night vision as well. Very little recoil, magazine fed, reliable...all are great guns to take in the woods or punch holes and ring steel. Johnny's channel has also inspired me to hand load for all my rifles.
A great video Johnny, it really gets to the meat of what's the better caliber for the AR platform based upon needs. I really appreciate the detailed pros and cons concerning bullet weights and case longevity for the new offerings. Thank you.
Johnny. I gotta give ya 2 thumbs up! I have been listening and watching your vids about 2 months now. Mostly at work on company computer 😵😵 anyhow you know your stuff and give a lot of great info. Thanks for your time amd effort.
Love how you mentioned the backyard commando and “tactical” scam. So crazy how people buy the “cool factor” and will buy anything with a “tactical” stamp on it.
I've said once and i will say it agian, Johnny your sir are my hero. Great info and outstanding for anyone who was on the fence about what caliber to go with. The Grendel all day and Twice on Sunday. Truly the most versatile cartridge for the AR15 platform. Love my 6.5G laod with the 130gr Berger AR Hybrid moving out at around 2500fps the Grendel is a great 1000-1300 yard round.
Would love to see you get into the 3 big bore AR15 ( 50 Beowulf, 458 SoCom and 450 Bushmaster) rounds at some point.
But whatever content you put out is always gold!!!
I love the wealth of info that you and your channel are. Thank you for sharing.
Johnny, that was some outstanding information. Your like a walking encyclopedia. Very knowledgeable. Thanks for caring and sharing......
@@casedismissedguaranteed49 isn't he talking about funny looking sponsored jackets that people wear at shooting competitions, not the military? Secondly, how is he making fun of the funny looking jackets, when he clearly said those are the guys to get info from?
@@casedismissedguaranteed49 Your response is totally inappropriate. You sound like a a hateful lefty. You have the right not to participate.
It's only been a little over a year, but remaking/updating this video might make sense. Your suggestion for folks to first get a well functioning 223 rifle is excellent. We know there are hundreds of thousands of first time gun buyers who just bought a decent 223, but they want to know what else they can do with it. Buying a quality upper for varminting (22 Nosler) or deer hunting (6.5 Grendel) or long range precision (6mm ARC) is very appealing for folks with limited budgets. An expanded comparison with Hornady 6mm ARC and 300 Blackout would be very helpful. I notice you've been gone for 5 months now, I hope everything is good with you and your family. Take care,
Great point of view and summary from previous experience. Watching your 22 Nosler, 224 Val, and 6.5 Grendel videos my pick of the three is leaning towards 6.5 Grendel for the next upper. This video also gave me a lot to consider when deciding which cartridge to pick, other than 308, in a large frame AR. 260 Rem, 6.5 Creed, and 7mm-08 are in mind. More and more it seems like the mindset needs to be pick what bullet you want to shoot first and for what purpose then pick the cartridge best suited to shoot it.
Johnny, I have just recently started with 6.5 Grendel, and it's your channel that I reference for most of my information on this clambering. The hardest thing about the Grendel is that it is not as popular as the Creedmore, but I didn't want to get into an AR10 rifle. Thank you for all of your videos on the Grendel. Very mild shooting cartridge, and as soon as I can get a supply of brass, I'm hoping to show a lot more reloading and shooting videos on my channel. Good stuff, sir
Very interesting. Thanks for the info. This makes choosing a round much easier.
For the money it's hard to beat Faxon barrels but I also like Ballistic Advantage. Thanks Johnny!👍👊🇺🇸🇺🇸
My next upper will be in 6.5 Grendel, but love shooting the 223 and Johnny’s 223 videos are the best
Great no nonsense, right to the point video. Absolutely fantastic
Best info on ammo choices and reloading by far!! Thanks man!!
I always learn something on Johnny’s channel. Great videos!
Thank you for the great info. After watching I feel I made a good decision going with the 224 Valkyrie over the 22 nosler. And limiting the 223 to 77 grain. I have a bolt AR with 24" barrel 1-7 twist and plan on shooting 62gn to 77gn bullets. and shooting > 77gn in the 224 Valkyrie, also 24"barrel.
Your idea about how people should use the pictures on the company website to determine who you're going to buy a barrel from is great, Really spot on! Guess I've thought about that subconsciously, but never put it in those words. Definitely going to plagiarize the term.
Great video with excellent information ! Thanks for sharing !
As usual a great video Johnny thanks for all the information! I have built both, a great shooting 223 with a 16 inch Wyld barrel, and a great shooting 18 inch Grendel. So glad that I didn't jump on the 224 Valkyrie or 22 Nosler band wagon. I love reloading and buying cases all the time can get expensive. I also got an 18 inch 300 Ham"r barrel from Wilson Combat and love shooting a 30 caliber with ballistic comparison to a proven 30/30 cartridge, like a 300 Blackout on steroids just no sub sonic loads, but I have my 300 Blackouts for that.
For the first time ever I've thought I might like to pick up an AR-15 (not a knock, just haven't picked up shooting with a carbine is all): Alexander Arms 6.5 Grendel Hunter.
Dunno, the 6.5 Grendel Hunter from Alexander Arms has caught my attention, and I'm somewhat fascinated with the Grendel round that can turn an 18" barrel rifle into a 1000-yard shooter.
I'm a complete novice mind you, but it seems there's something to a round that stays supersonic at 1,200-ish yards I think it is.
Anyway, thanks for the vid.
Just finished my .224 Valkyrie build with a Wilson Combat 20" barrel with 1-6.5" twist, and first 10 shot group with factory Federal 90g smk had 8 of 10 shots inside 1"
Number 8 landed 1" out of the group, right where my crosshairs were when I let it go, and shot 9 landed 1/8" low of the main group and pretty sure it was me.
So far I am pleased, especially with almost everyone else having issues. I'll know more this spring when I can put more rounds through it.
Awesome advice in the beginning about getting a good .223 barrel that shoots small groups.
My 3 best AR15 cartridges: .300BO, 6.5G, and .458 SOCOM. With careful shopping you can have them all for a grand. A single, reliable acting lower, and no lack of compromise if unlawfully confronted. And the .458 can be subbed as well. I'm avoiding the 223/556 due to potential chambering issues with the BO. So, one becomes three. Subtle to devastating. Minimal spare parts requirement. :-)
I put together a ar recently and have been nothing but happy with it, seems to shoot good regardless of the bullet weight i load for it!
Good stuff as always. I enjoyed the comparison. I agree that is all depends on what you want to do. I think they all have their place in the lineup somewhere. I am shooting and reloading for the .224 Valkyrie. Also agree with the brass life issue, hoping at some point that will get sorted out. Only time will tell.
I have hunted Elk and Deer with my Grendel,a great round,with long range ability.
Excellent presentation Johnny!
Love the Grendel. I'm getting 1/2 moa out of mine out to 400 yds with several different loads including my whitetail load that pushes a 105gr MKZ over 2700 fps. It's did a great job on Indiana whitetail this year.
I love my Rock River AR15
.223 wylde .25" 100 yds three round groups out of the box. Full disclosure they were my own personal handloads. Oh yea great video first time watcher
Love the video! I would like to also say that I've had really good luck with Faxon barrels. They are reasonably priced as well.
Agreed. They are legit. Buttoned barrels are top notch
Fellow Kentuckian here who just stumbled upon your channel. I subscribed.
I loveeeee theory of operation videos like this. Thank you so much.
I really recommend this guys mentality when looking for different rifle caliber modular rifles to choose from.
That was the best explaination of ogive I've ever heard. Thanks for that. And I like Grendel a lot as well.
Thank you for the explanation. Most other just foamed in the mouth and talking about things that don't even matter. Or just making up stuff. But you are the best !!!
Thank you for making this a separate video. I may not have watched one on the 22 Nosler or 224. They are not solid hits on my radar. I am working on a 223 Wylde, 300 Blackout and a 7.62x 39 builds and am really interested in the 6.5 Grendel, maybe next. And since I reload, your input on the brass issues really solidified my choices. Thanks again.
Get the 6.5 can't beat it especially with cheap ammo like wolf and wolf gold. Really good bullet selection. And 1200yd range
Oh man, great video! Thanks Johnny!
THE BEST cartridge comparison EVER!
It IS pretty legit
6.5 Grendel all the way
@@casedismissedguaranteed49 Is that not an AR10?
Lol!!! Open mouth, insert foot!
@@casedismissedguaranteed49 The best part of your stupidity was that you needed to edit also .
@@casedismissedguaranteed49 the M5e1 uppers are for the ar10 sized rifles, not ar15.
@@casedismissedguaranteed49 First off, Creedmore is a short action cartridge while the Ar-15 can only accept mini action cartridges. So Creedmore doesen't apply here. Sevond, in a short action rifle 6.5 PRC blows 6.5 Creedmore out of the water in every way possible. So in reality 6.5 Creedmore actualy wins nothing.
How about 6.8 SPC? Works great on this platform and is a great hunting round. It's supersonic out to about 600 yds. and ballistics are pretty good!
6.8 is good enough for the DoD....a good intermediate round IMHO and 600 yards is the sweet-spot for most of us. (IOW can't hit shit past 500 yards anyway.)
@@amramhakohen7474 not the same 6.8 at all.
I heard the 6.5 Grendel is supersonic at 1000 yards.
@@kimrandall8135 Going to try to shoot deer or hogs at 1000yds?
Great information, Johnny. Thank you.
Great work. Excellent presentation.
I agree with your cartridge choice and Kentucky is a great state for nice deer. My age and CWD has put a damper on my hunting. Thanks and have a good one 👍
Excellent video, Johnny you did a great job explaining the differences and the pros and cons I would have to agree 223/556 is definitely the way to start out.
Spot on, 223/556 first... Now I understand what you were saying about the 22noz, and the 224v being different animals. thanks... the confusion over the 6.5g type 1 or 2 bolt face, along with the type 1 or 2 chamber/throat, (chaos), being all but over, seems like it's really a better choice. all that confusion didn't do the 6.5g any favors with peoples opinions. I like that I can buy cheap, bulk, Wolf ammo for the 6.5g for plinking while hand loading the good stuff for hunting and accuracy. not much different than the 223/556. excellent vid, thanks.
6.5 out performs 224 valkyrie in energy weight and bullet selection and ammo is cheaper 6.5 is better than 556 in every way possible
Thanks Johnny! Very well explained!!
Great content! Thanks for posting!
Lovely vid J Man. Cheers.
Does a great job explaining.
Great videos! Keep up the good work!
I love my 300 blackout. I also have a 6.8 AR. If it was not so expensive to shoot. Awesome and accurate.
Thanks Johnny!! Great video. I always learn so much from your videos. Keep up the excellent work. I do, however, take issue with your "goofy shooting jackets" comment... :D
You got me curious about the 6.5 Grendel. Thanks, just subscribed to your channel.
We should add an addendum of listing the awesome cartridges of .223, of course we have the .300 blkout and the awesome 22TCM! I recently learned of .22TCM while shopping reviews of the new Ruger 5.7. This awesome little pistol cartridge based on the .223 case cut and re-necked to .22 fires a 40 grain round out of a 17 shot 1911 at 2100+ FPS! Basically nearly the same as the 5.7! This smokes .22WMR by 250 FPS and 100 FtLbs! (it has roughly 400ft lbs of energy!) I have just found my next pistol that can be reloaded for cheap! There are rifles made for this amazing little caliber also. I will even get over my disdain for the poor politics of Illinois,Rock River Arms Co.who makes them. I see 1000 rounds .22TCM loaded are 149.95 or 200 rounds loaded sell for 31.99! Also we can reload it ourselves cheap! Lee and Hornady make dies! How did I miss this .22TCP ? I nearly bought a crappy trigger, expensive ammo, and hard to reload 5.7 cal Ruger. The 2 calibers handguns are about the same price, but the savings will continue forever with .223 based .22TCM! As a bonus the Rock River Arms 1911 handguns also come with a free 9mm barrel and a decent trigger that can be made like glass! Something FN and Ruger will never have with the 5.7.
Great information, as usual!
You've made up my mind. My next upper is gonna be 6.5 Grendel . Thanks
Can't beat the 6.5 grendel I love mine IV taken many white tail with it bullet selection is great and wolf ammo is only 230$ for 1000rds. Plus 1200yd range can't beat it
Oh dear, not another one
Great video as always.
So my first ar15 was 556 bushmaster Carbon15, it has a pencil barrel with a 1/9twist and coasted 500 bucks. And it shoots better then expected. However i recently bought a 300 blackout with a 16inch barrel that have fallen in love with. So now i got me a silencer and a new saint spring field armory pistol in 300 black oht and i love it. I may be building a ar10 pistol soon
Solid video Johnny.
best reloading channel period. the one thing im not happy with is you make it hard on my wallet. getting back to reloading. you put the excitement back into it. doing a 224 build. have an upper from alpha shooting sports being built as i write this cant wait. will be following you tests with both the 224 and my 223/556. thanks again for the empty wallet. lol
Great vid. Best I've come across. New sub.
This video has got everyone talking in the comments. I love the 223/556 and thrive on pushing it out down range. I also shoot 308 the same way. Have always been curious about the middle ground between 223/?/308. The Grendel seems to be that cartridge, and will be a build for me in the future. Thanks Johnny for your videos, it would take me way longer with more expense to get where I need to be.
Yes I love the 6.5 grendel IV taken many white tail with it it shoots 1200yds it's cheaper than the other cartridges wolf makes ammo 230$for 1000 mine gun shoots 11/2 in groups with it. and u can get really good bullet selection from 90grn to 147grain and higher and it has exelent barrel life
I found this fascinating and I don't even shoot rifles, and certainly don't re-load. Learnt a lot in this one video. One thing that perplexes me is that for YEARS I thought .223 and 5.56 were the exact same thing - just one expressed in inches (civilian) and the other metric (military). But recently I discovered that there are differences, like 5.56 slightly more powerful. Maybe Johnny has a video on this.
Great descriptions
I can hear Inspector Jacques Clouseau now, "ah yes, the old talking hand video".
Great summary!
i like shooting the heavier .224Val for varmints and medium to large game also have hunted with my 125gr 7.62x39 on hogs at 150 to 250yrds.i also have two M4s in different twists with 1-7 and 1-9 twist rates and have a lot of fun with those.I 5think u sold me on a 6.5Grendel! LOL thats my next AR i want one in every caliber lol. Then ill start on AR 10s lol my wife was wonder i bought a 14gun gun cabinet....At the time my long guns were spread around my den in gun socks.I filled it 1/2 way when i finally put them in it!LOL and im still going strong i just added the 76.2x39 and havnt even had a chance to shoot it yet? lol great video keep it up bro!
Great channel - I've also watched most of 224 Valk videos. I use CCI #41 primers and found primer pocket enlargement problems in 224 V and 6.5 Grendel near max loads. If I back them down I still get max velocities with lower charges. I think it's the nature of the "magnum" primer. I use QL and adjust the burn factor until the velocity matches my LabRadar - and if that velocity shown is not over max pressure - primer pocket failures seem to subside. It's close. I usually go down .2 or .3 less to accommodate warmer temps. I also noticed this issue with #34 CCI in 6.5 Creedmoor. Just my 2 cents and theory. I use a pocket primer Gage to check.
I use starline in 224 Valkyrie and I have not had any problems with the primer pockets.. although I did when I started this cartridge o 5 moths ago but now no issues at all.. great fun...
The most insightful group on how to reload the Valkyrie is the Facebook group Valkyrie Ascending focused on reloading this cartridge since it came out there is over 2+ years ago with tons of knowledge in the group.. facebook.com/groups/398943407218038/
Try blowing out the .223 case to a straight walled case to .355--.358 diameter bullet diameter that can be saboted back to use a .243 diameter bullet centered into the bore and check out the internal ballistics which will also gain a lot of external ballistics while still using near stock magazines. The stock formula is easy to find to predict how much better than the 30 caliber blackout
To really make the right decision on what rifle calibers are the best choices for you is to be completely honest about what is it that you are going to used it for and want to accomplish . Know what is the maximum range you can shoot where you live , how often are you going to go out and shoot and be completely honest with yourself about your goal ( AND A SUPER IMPORTANT POINT IS TO MENTION HOW MUCH MONEY YOU ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN THIS PROJECTS)
could be hunting, sports, plinking, self defense, etc.
I own almost all the ar15 platform rifle calibers just missing a couple (I really don't think I'm going to get them [ shot them plentiful and if I own them they wouldn't be shot that often ]....
I own all kinds of rifles ( new and old. Ww1 ww2 and present times, bolt action, long barrels , short ones. Ar10,,, in different calibers, etc.) I have shot almost all calibers available in the gun world.
Accuracy is my passion , every shot counts.... pushing the limits and learning how to place a shot right where you want it or need it to hit is my SPECIFIC goal!!!
Is fun to learn about ballistic performance and accuracy along with the new technology that is becoming available to own!!!
also own quite a few pellet rifles and let me tell you that is quite a challenge to really understand the perfomance of these guns which by the way they are no toys, some of them are as expensive and deadly ( at 10 to 15 yards) as an ar15.
AND JUST LIKE ANY GUN JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE EXPENSIVE DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY ACCURATE OUT OF THE BOX. And yes the ones that are not so expensive can be amazingly accurate as well. But u have to find the pellet that you barrel likes.
MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL IS:
UNDERSTANDING THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE CONSTANTLY HITTING ON TARGET U NEED TO FIND THE BULLET WEIGHT AND BRAND YOUR RIFLE LIKES.
UNDERSTAND THAT A WELL PLACED SHOT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN PRACTICING:AND UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU AND YOUR RIFLE BECOME ONE.... BREATHING , TRIGGER PULL, KNOWING HOW USE YOUR SCOPE (IF YOU USE ONE) OR IRON SIGHTS . AND UNDERSTANDING BALLISTICS AND HOW THE BULLETS THAT YOU CHOSE PERFORM IN YOUR RIFLE.
there is lots and lots of talk about bullet performance out there.... realistically any caliber is potentially deadly for hunting.
Shot placing is specially important, distance, etc.
In reality the great majority of hunting kills happens between 30
to a 150 yards away from the shooter.
I think people buy into marketing to much. The 6.5X47 and 260 Remington were out before the 6.5 creedmoor but hornady marketed it well. If people already reload a bullet in a rifle cartridge they should just get an AR cartridge that uses the same or similar weight bullet. I agree that most target and hunting distances are limited to where the differences in most cartridges is negligible.
Thanks for the video brother
I handload my .22 Nosler rounds and I use Nosler brass. After several reloads, not a single problem with the brass, and the performance is stunning. Granted it's not the cheap make-a-buck brass case that the market seems to be flooded with these days, but then, you get what you pay for.
458 socom with the 325gr Hornady FTX. In WI we rarely shoot over 50 yards.
Great subject great content great video thanks for the info
omg i found my new nerd out channel. outstanding!
Johnny, will you ever be doing a test or review on the new 350 Legend? Thanks sincerely for all you do for us guys & gals. I own both .300 BO and 6.5 Grendel uppers solely for the fun of developing accurate loads, but have interest in all AR 15 calibers.
My major interest is in old/older cartridges and firearms Re: .22 K Hornet, .222 Rem Mag., .45 Colt, 6.5 X 55 Swede, 7mm Mauser, 8mm Nambu, .300 Savage, ad nauseum.
I doubt the 350 Legend will last very long in the marketplace, but reloaders should be able to feed their guns forever. Tip...buy your brass soon and put it away!
I own a 20", 16", and 10.5" Grendel. Built the last two myself. Love the 6.5. Next build is going to be a 22 Grendel, just because I can. Heard it gets better results than the 224 Val, and isn't having the accuracy issues folks are seeing with the 224 Val. I never shoot my 5.56 or 7.62x39 anymore. The Grendel does it all well. Keep up the great work Johnny!
I'm REALLY wanting to do a 6.5 Grendel build this year, but I'm torn on the barrel length and profile. Any recommendations?
MattFrmSac - 20” Odin Works 1:8 twist. 416R Stainless, Rifle Length gas port, that came with Odin Works BCG and an adjustable low profile Gas block that I’ve set opened up 45% flow for Suppression and Using a load work up as follows:
- 30.8 gr of BL-C (2), Hornady Brass trimmed to 1.511”, CCI 450 Magnum primer. The COAL utilizing the Hornady 123gr ELD came out to 2.260”.
This combo yielded 5 rounds that created one hole group that measured 0.457” in diameter
Actual Velocity: 2,451 fps SD: 14.6. Did this just today. I own (2) 300 AAC BLK (also thanks to Johnny) and ROCK RIVER “Operator” 5.56 NATO ARs.
Love that Grendel! Optic is the Sig Sauer BDX 5-14X44 “Sierra 3” that pairs via blue tooth to a phone app and the “Kilo 1800 BDX” range finder and provides your fire solution electronically to your crosshairs and lights up the correct ballistic holdover mark inside the reticle, which takes all the guess work out and provides the perfect point of impact. Essentially, making you look like a Rock Star at the range as you smack bullseyes all day long!
MattFrmSac The 16" BHW barreled rifle is my do everything Grendel. I mostly use the 20" AA GDMR for longer range target and varmint shooting. The 10.5" BHW barreled pistol is my truck gun. I travel a lot to some pretty remote places, and a 10.5" Grendel will reach out to 300 yards with some decent energy. Don't feel under-gunned even though it is such a concealable weapon.
MattFrmSac Forgot to mention optics. I use a 4-14 IOR w/MP8 on the 20". Minox 1-8 on the 16". ACOG 1.5 w/ ACSS on the 10.5". Have an OSS Helix Ti, that I mount on the 16 and 10.5. My preference is to stick with an 18" or 16" barrel. Don't give up much, and easier and lighter to carry around.
6.5 Creedmoor will not fit in the AR15 platform, which is what this video is about.
Awesome!! Thank You for the information
I also really like the 300 blk for the shorter barrel length that allows a much handier lighter and smaller rifle for an easy carrying option in the field and for hd. I know this was about bullets and cartridges but just wanted to add the other benefits for that round besides the sub sonic suppressed factor.
I agree with everything.... a possible contender for a light bullet varmint caliber other than the 22 Nosler in the AR is the 204 ruger.
They have a 6mm arc that out preforms the Grendel
Great Information ! I have a good 5.56, looking to 6.5 Grendel and rock the 120-123gr for bigger game.
Get it it out performs all other ar15 cartridges bullet selection is huge and ammo is cheap wolf makes 100grn fmj 6.5 grendel for 230$ for 1000rds. and my gun shoots 11/2 in with it. 350 for 1000 in privi partisan 120grn brass cased hp, or wold gold 120grn brass cased hp. Plus 1200yrd max range
Well covered in the discussion but cover the H2O case capacities.
The 6.5 Grendel and 300Blackout are my favorites.
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Helll yesss another reason to do my faxon 6.5 grendel pistol build
Grendel can kiss my grendel but Faxon barrels are legit
Great video! I own 5.56, 223 Wylde, 6.5Gr, and 300blk. My bases are covered. I won't be getting into 22 Nosler or 224 Valkyrie any time in the foreseeable future.
Case Dismissed Guaranteed god. You’re just like creedmoor fanboys and you have no clue wtf you’re talking about. As stated in other comments you’re blasting on about the creedmoor, the creed is NOT an AR15 cartridge. It’s an AR10 cartridge. Completely different.
soilrulz13 well he got blocked
@@casedismissedguaranteed49 you are so dumb... why not just talk about how great .50 BMG is while youre at it... except unless you are getting a single shot AR-50bmg... then you arent fitting that in an AR-15 magazine.
Sadly I can’t have a AR15 because I live in Canada but I have a tikka t3x in 223 and it’s a ton of fun for coyotes and prairie dogs. I love the 223 it’s a good price with decent ballistics.