Saw a Tweet, "A thousand dollars is a lot to owe, but not a lot to have." I'm reminded of that, because if I was armed with a 22LR pistol for self-defense, I would feel under-armed. But if someone was pointing one at me, I would feel in danger of my life.
It depends on the ammo and the barrel length in my opinion. Different people (including WDM Bell) have demonstrated that the .22 handgun can penetrate into a cow's skull, and kill it. But if the angle or placement is wrong, it can easily deflect off the cow's skull and be mostly harmless.
I spent 30 years between combat medicine and pre-hospital emergency medicine. I've seen every entry wound shown in this video and many that weren't. The most interesting case, at the time, was an unconscous male where we found the .22 pistol next to his body and trying as hard as we could, we couldn't find a bullet entry or exit anywhere. As he was deteriorating, had to intubate him, where we inserted the breathing tube into his lungs. It was at that point that we discovered with the light on our instrument a small slightly more pink area in the back of his mouth in the soft palate. It turns out that he jammed the barrel as far back in his mouth as he could, aimed upward as best he could, and pulled the trigger. Game over. 100% of the energy of that bullet was absorbed by his skull and his brains. When I was a child, my grandfather told a story of when he was in Germany in WWII. His unit was moving forward and they heard a shot ring out and the guy in front of my grandfather dropped like a rock. When they rolled him over, he had an entry wound in the middle of his forehead. Game over for that guy. The medic made his way forward, took a look and said there was nothing they could do. They were stuck there for a bit due to incoming fire and after a little while, the guy shot in the forehead started moaning and sat up. My grandfather thought he was going to have a heart attack because it looked like the guy was rising from the dead. Their medic did a closer examination and it was revealed that the bullet hit him in the middle of the forehead at what must have been a slight angle. The bullet then traveled the entire circumference of his head between the skull and the skin and then exited out the same hole it created upon entry. I remember my grandfather telling this story and as a kid, I thought it was just a war story embellishment. Then, I grew up, joined the Navy and became a Hospital Corpsman who spent all my time as a combat medic with the Marine Corps. One of my more advanced ballistic classes I received was given by an ER physician who told a virtually identical story of one of his patients. It was at that point I realized the story my grandfather told wasn't some war-time embellished combat story. Now, having seen more bullet wounds than I can count over the decades, I can tell you that bullets can enter one area and come out in a completely different part of the body or even, crazily enough, out the entry wound.
The WW2 story makes some sense to me, seems possible but rare. I know you can guide a bullet down a pipe, even a PVC pipe. I can see how at the right velocity and angle the bullet could maybe have just enough force to penetrate the skin but not the skull at the angle, and the soft skin and the hard skull next to each other could make a pipe like effect, and if everything is right it could go around and out, maybe.
As a OR RN I work at a level 1 trauma center. We check on Level 1 and 2 traumas to ascertain if we need to bring them directly from the trauma bay to the OR. I listened to one of the recorded messages on a soon to arrive trauma which stated GSW to the head entrance and exit wound, alert and oriented. ???????????!!!!! Turned out that the patient had been jack lighting deer with a .22 rifle. He had the barrel straight up in their truck when they hit a bump. The rifle discharged, ricocheted off the roof, hit him square on top of the head, the bullet had expended some of its energy and did not pierce the skull but traveled under the skin around his head and exited on the lower portion of his head. Full recovery.
This is the second comment on this video about a bullet circumventing someone's skull! Truth is stranger than fiction- I would never have believed that if I saw it in a movie.
To be fair, it has made me very conscious around stuff like heavy equipment or machinery in general. Not trying to be the Indian guy in the pics that got ran over by an excavator looking like hamburger with his eyes popping out of his head.
I can say from things I've personally witnessed in the ER, .22lr is more than capable. The scary thing is how many people don't understand that and act like it's a glorified BB gun.
@@Elitist8you can't tell me with that logic you would put a 22 any where near a bb gun, pellet gun in the same category? The damage done by a pellet gun is more similar to a 22? Or is it more similar to other small handgun calibers such as 380 or 9mm?
I saw a dash cam vid of a cop trying to arrest a guy. The suspect was shot 4 or 5 times by the cop with .357 sig If my memory serves. Then the suspect raised his little 22lr and pointed it at the cop. The cop bladed instinctively when he saw the gun pointed at him. Very unfortunate reflex. When he turned he exposed his left side gap in armor. The round went under his arm into his heart. The cop was standing by the suspects rear passenger quarter panel and barley made it around to the drivers side front fender before he fell. He pleaded into his mic for about 5 seconds then fell silent and still. The late officer was a big guy too. The suspect remained standing pointing his weapon in case the cop came back for another 20-30 seconds. We all know it's about shot placement. The question is how likely is it that a heart shot can be achieved. Of course training = skill.
I actually had a "discussion" with a college professor (Pasadena City College, Ca 1987) that said a car window would stop a point blank shotgun blast. She stood her ground even after half the class laughed out loud.
@airgunfun4248 - A wooden arrow from a primitive bow, A small metal ball bearing from a wrist rocket can also achieve a lucky shot through the armpit, even a sharp stick would do this job...
I’m watching this because my mom carries a 22 and wanted to know if it will actually stop a threat fast enough. Thank you this is very helpful. God bless you man!
@@AB-jp2ebdoesn’t matter what gun you have in your hands if you get shot first. Dude can have a Desert Eagle and it won’t make a difference if he takes five 22.s to the chest
One thing that always comes to mind when discussing .22 for self defense, is that the .22 on your body is a lot better than the .44 in your nightstand. If you carry a .22 and can adequately utilize it, you're far from disarmed. While something like a .380 or a 9mm would be more reliable for self defense, if you can properly utilize your .22, your .22 can be rather effective.
And if you use CCi Segmented hollow points, they will get the job done. 15+1 in a Ruger SR22 with 2 other 15 round mags in your pockets. Not a bad summer carry option.
.380 auto is a good compromise, I think. By all means, if you're going stupid places at stupid times (like the 7/11 at 2 AM), grab your bigger gun, but that's annoying to have to carry all the time. This little 22 is great, but I'd be concerned about chest penetration through that sternum, seeing how that's where your self defense target is gonna be.
@@iZephiroth he usually tries to draw some connection to self defense but I guess that's hard to do when you're testing a back of the neck shot, I love it lmao.
Forty years ago, an accidental discharge with a .22 LR killed a personal friend. He was walking down a country road with two friends, with his .22 rifle slung over his shoulder, muzzle up. The sling slipped off his shoulder, and when the buttstock hit the ground, the rifle discharged, which sent a round into his skull. Instantly dead. RIP Dean. Edit: thanks for the condolences and upvotes… those weren’t my reason for posting - though they are appreciated. For the record, I brought it up b/c of the video… 1 personal story demonstrating that a .22 cal. CAN kill a person. Most definitely.
@Mister_Clean the comments can be taken in several different ways. I instantly thought prioritized money over family. It appears you thought sacrifice over what your father wanted. The nuance in English is incredible
This 22 vs human video reminds me of when I was a young apprentice in the trades. One of the older guys carried a tiny hammer in his tool pouch which had a head the size of my thumb. I remember making fun of him for carrying this "tiny" hammer and telling him it's useless. When he looked me in the eye and said "If you think it's useless, put your thumb down right here and we'll se how useless it is." Needless to say, he made his point. Although a .22 may not do the damage a 9mm will, I surely don't want to be shot at with one.
I've ran EMS for about 20 years. I don't go on shootings often, but have seen a couple dozen or so. Each time that a .22 was involved (maybe a 1/4th?), the bullet always ended up far away from the point of entry. I swear that I have seen a shot in the hip end up down in the knee cap, under the skin it looked like a BB. Some of those were one-shot, one-kill too.
@@creedstump0662Yeah that means they'd have to do diagnostic tests to actually find where the bullet is and these will take crucial time away from treatment.
a South carolina state trooper wearing a vest took a single .22 cal shot to the arm pit and bled out and died on the highway within 1 minute by some guy he just shot 5 times with a 357 magnum
A friend of mine used to say, "The .22 is only a pansy round until you actually get shot by it". I can say, from my own personal experience, that a .22 round to the head will drop a large mature horse instantly. Years ago, I did some volunteer work at a big cat sanctuary and they fed the cats donated horses that were old, blind, injured, etc. Part of the volunteer work was to dispatch the horses, which was done with a Ruger MK 2. I only did one and this horse was so spooky that you couldn't just walk up on it at point blank range like they usually did. Apparently, this horse was donated to the sanctuary solely because of his temperament. He was spooky, not broken and apparently so aggressive that his owner felt this was the only option. He was so spooky that I had to basically back off from the coral for quite awhile and then finally took the shot from about 12 to 15 feet away when the horse came to a stop and faced me. I kind of had my doubts, but had been assured that a .22 was quite adequate for the job if the shot was well placed. So ... the horse literally folded up on all four legs and dropped instantly. I mean, literally "lights out" like you just hit a switch and had turned him off. It was kind of a weird, surreal life experience that was unpleasant enough that I packed it in later that day, but it just really goes to show that a well placed shot from a .22 pistol can drop and instantly kill an animal much bigger than any man out there and not limited to just point blank range, either. I've had a pretty hardy respect for the lowly .22 ever since. The ammo, by the way, was a 32 grain CCI Stinger. I usually have a 9mm as a daily carry, but really wouldn't hesitate to rely on a .22 if it was all I happened to own or could afford. That's especially true when you consider that their low recoil can really deliver a lot of accurate, well placed shots in a matter of seconds if you're competent with it.
Thanks for that info. More people should know a 22 can drop a horse. I do recall using a 22 as a kid and doing a lot of damage to a lot of things and knew right away no human is taking a shot from a 22 to the head. Even though plenty of people act as if it is only slightly stronger than a BB gun. It should never be shot at people
When I was growing up on a farm we used a .22 rifle to butcher hogs point blank behind the ear it would drop them also on that show swamp people they use a .22 on alagters
the best SDI take yet, Charlie is such a whacky member of the team, i love that he is always wandering around in the back round, makes me laugh every time.
In the past I thought he was just the autistic neighbor kid that came over every time he heard them shooting. He hasn't done much to make me think otherwise.
Actually, I'm a person who got shot by .22lr Margo old soviet pistol - into my stomach. Just as your first shot in the video. I received only 1 shot and run away. It was an assassination attempt (with a plan to blame me for being an attacker). I almost died. But not because of the injury iteslf. , but father infection that got really serious. And I received immediate medical treatment. I was very lucky to survive. They operated me 7 times all together. They couldnt take out the bullet. I'm living with it. The lead is poisoning my body. I remember that I estimated to have enough strength to keep walking another 2kms, if I would have to. Actually I just finished another court session 1 h ago
@dawidw.6016 ive been shot between the eyes with a 22 and its all in my face as fragments. I had lead testing done 3 years after and i had "lower than measurable" amount of lead in my blood test. Turns out the lead from bullets isnt very mobile in a body and isnt "poisonous" Lead poisoning comes from soluable lead from paint, etc or dust. You are safe from the bullet lead, if thats any comfort. Hope the healing goes good!
@@landerson6983you’ve got to give more context than that my man. Sorry to hear about it, and I’m glad you’re okay, but I’d really love to hear about how you got shot in the forehead and survived.
This is one of the greatest episodes ever. Anyone else feel like after GT left duty that his content just improved far beyond what it already was? Like, greatest to greatestest!
Now he gets to be haggard and openly jaded instead of haggard and quietly jaded. His voice will also probably drop, and he will immediately go gray, lol.
A standard 22 pistol report is actually quieter than average amounts of city traffic to begin with, so upping that factor with a suppressor is pretty awesome
Yes if you're talking about suppressed bolt-action rifles they make basically no sound, except for a slight "click". Suppressed semi-auto 22LR pistols on an other hand are much louder !
@@HellGatefr2 Pistols generally even bit louder than rifles because more unburned powder to ignite/burn in supressor than with rifle length barrel. But yes action noise is a thing what is very hard to tame with semi-automatics. Thats why if you want quiet as possible you want to least 16 inch barrel bolt action with good supressor and subsonics loads with quality powder which will burn cleanly before bullet even exit from a barrel. Shorter barrels tend to leave more unburned powder resin to supressor because most of ammo is optimised to rifle length barrels.
Unless you are standing more than 90 degrees in front of the barrel, then they can really hurt your ears, most people only listen from the shooting location
I just have to say that Charlie is something else. Most A-list actors seriously struggle to play this type of character convincingly, yet he just effortlessly embodies this awkward fool archetype. It's genuinely impressive how well he nails everything from the humor to the smallest subtleties of the body language. Idk if he has a background in acting and comedy, but he definitely has more than what it takes. He really adds a lot to the channel and I just want to voice some appreciation for what he does.
It's almost like he's is being genuine... lmao it is his character dude is not an actor. Might lean into it a bit but I don't think he is practicing for hours in front of a mirror for us lol.
I used to work for a coroner's office and saw a suicide with a snub nose .38 under the chin like you did and it had a very similar result. The bullet went all the way through the head and broke the skull on the top. It was stopped by the skin on the top of the head. Pretty cool to see this torso behaving similarly.
I once had the pleasure of photographing a US Navy member who had committed suicide by shooting himself under the chin with a .44 mag. The top of his head was like looking down, into an empty snow cone cup.... all the way to the entrance hole! His eyes were hanging out, dangling on his cheeks. You don't forget things like that.
Having worked in Emergency Medicine for awhile, one case comes to mind. We had a guy brought in with multiple gunshot wounds. He was entirely conscious, and answering all our questions. While we were examining him and looking for injuries, I found a small caliber entry wound that looked like it had been made by a .22. This round hit his left upper arm, passed through his tricep, exited his arm, and entered his side. During the course of examining him, we found that he'd been hit twice from the left. Of the two rounds, one came to rest in his chest, while the other took a more "creative" route. We finally found that one on CT scan. It hit one of his ribs, deflected, and traveled almost the entire length of his torso before coming to rest just shy of his bladder. Not a single round posed any direct life threats, but dude was most definitely incapacitated. One of the things he told us was that it hurt way too much for him to move. Safe to say, he was very lucky. From what we were told, he was running when he was hit. If the shooter had been any closer, and/or if he'd been stationary, things would have been different.
@PremRajput15901 people wont believe the animals ive hunted successfully with a 22 caliber rifle 30-40-50 grain, even smaller is definately capable killing with a well placed shot. Best believe that :)
@@mattiaskeinnn3317 A 50's Grizzly record that stood for years was held by an Indigenous-Canadian woman named Bella Twin who used a .22. She was using a Cooey Ace 1 single shot .22 that had duct-tape holding it together.
Thanks for sharing this story. This is exactly my issue with a 22. He was shot by a 22 and had he been armed with a 9mm and returned fire, most likely the other guy won’t make the hospital. 22 is best used in situations where your target won’t have an opportunity to return fire.
I love that SDI, primary arms, and aac are still sponsoring even with all the shenanigans. Really makes me want to support them. Once I actually have time breathe outside of work, definitely looking at sdi.
I love how hard Charlie had everyone laughing without any of it being cut out, I loved seeing Garand Thumb laugh harder than he ever has in any video ever
The first video of yours Ive ever seen, and Ive been gun tubing for a while. I laughed my ass off, I loved it you two are awesome. Subscribed. Cant wait to watch more.
My best friend was murdered beside me with a .22 I couldn’t find the bullet hole to apply pressure, no blood I checked as fast as I could and called it in. They told me after in the autopsy the small caliber round entered through his lower abdomen hitting a rib and ricocheting off his rib through his lug and into his lower heart. These guns sometimes have a slight look of an air-soft pistols so they are often not quite as effective in scaring the person on the other end.
There's a lot to be said about the non-intimidation factor for the wielder. A heavy 22lr pistol is like shooting a staple gun, so follow-up shots are significantly easier to keep accurate.
Vice versa too though... how many times have we seen a civvie get the drop on some guy in an armed robbery and it's the noise of the shots that make the bad guy take off running? A really loud bang could be the difference between leaving them with enough time to fire back, even with some good shots to the chest, vs. disorienting them and triggering the fight or flight response we all have to really loud sounds.
@@HateSpeechMoreLikeBasedSpeech I have never seen this. most people would fumble their gun in their hands and then miss most shots, wounding/killing bystanders before getting the bad guy, if they get the bad guy at all. most people don't practice with their weapons and they should. should be a requirement. passing an in person driving test and written test should be a requirement for maintaining a driver's license too. would make our world less lethal but here we are
The terrifying part isn't the fact that the .22 is effective, it's the thought of the semi / permanent state of vegetation they'll cause due to the lack of wound channel expansion. In essence this is the ice pick in the lobotomy.
I got shot piont blank in the chest. The ball round hit my vein going to my lower body. Then passed through my liver, followed my ribs and stopped in my spine. I slowly stopped breathing because my chest was filling up with blood. The doctor had to cut my chest open to pinch my vien so I could make it to surgery. DR Sandafer saved my life. See the thing with a 22 lr. Is it spins fast than it penatrates. When it stops going forward, Its still spinning and becomes a pin ball and grabs tissue.
Wait so that's more terrifying than near instant incapacitation leading to certain deletion, very shortly after, with something much more effective like a 9mm hollow point (that will blow most of the brains out)? Make some sense.
I love how the host is saying "Well it hit the rib/sternum and shattered I don't think that's a fatal blow" Yea you want to go ahead and count where all the little bone and metal fragments went into the body? It's very possible that it didn't kill the person, but also very possible that one of those 10-20 fragments ended up somewhere it shouldn't. I had a personal friend who took damage to his clavicle bone. They thought he would be ok and suddenly he passed away. The autopsy reviled his clavicle bone had splintered and many of those fragments made it into his aorta. Some injuries don't seem fatal, but until you REALLY take the aftermath into account, some of those shots could still very well kill someone EVEN with proper medical intervention.
So my mother survived a shot to the back of her head from a 22 revolver. She worked at a pharmacy and an ex cop came in, put everyone on their knees and killed 2 of the 4 people with them. With all that said, I look at this video with a different perspective than most. I’m just glad my mom knew to move the moment she did to not get hit straight on. Always love your videos my man. Stay strapped. Sources ruclips.net/video/LxPlnUir9cY/видео.html ruclips.net/video/EQShb7a_tH0/видео.html
@@cosmicbilly Met a local who survived a round to the temple, supposedly because they put the barrel directly to his forehead, which slightly slowed down the bullet with back pressure. Not sure if the last part was true, but he had the scar to prove it.
I love every single thing about this channel but honestly the dash of legit fatherly advice at the end just makes it for me. It’s always nice to have wholesome people be so based.
I'm glad you did the multi-shot tests, because I think the almost total lack of muzzle climb is a big feature of the 22. One shot's not going to do as much damage as other calibers, but you can just keep dumping without losing your aim
@@carsonhunt4642 I mean, .22lr doesn't jam as much now as it used to because a lot of the ammunition is better. Just don't buy remington ammo and you should be fine lmao
The way these ads are structured and produced is actually rhetorically fascinating. It gives the impression of just two buddies talking about a product or service they value, even though it's _definitely_ a deliberate ad read. SDI is going to have a hard time finding more quality advertising than this.
I have used both 9mm and 22lr at the range. And it is surprising at how more accurate you can be with a 22 at the same range due to the reduced recoil. And if you want to make sure you don't shoot your neighbor if that is your home defense weapon, CCI now makes a 22lr segmented round which splits into three sections on impact. Now imagine that high speed discharge with 12 rounds that actually equal 36 flechettes. This is a varmint round. I wish they would have compared round types in addition to grain.
@@jlw2915 But we get to that magic issue, ammo availability. During the Obama years we had to wait outside of Gander Mountain twice a week to buy ammo, and exotic calibers like .32 or .25 weren't easy to find. Heck, even .380 was a rare bird to find.
The low recoil makes it accurate and deadly, let's say your opponent pulls a 9mm or 40s&w ect. The bigger the caliber the longer the reset time, and on a moving target it gets worse the higher the caliber unless you specifically on purpose train reset timing after every shot and drawing. I personally carry a 9mm every day, I wouldn't be opposed to carrying a .22 . I always say, make sure you don't miss your first shot against a .22 because they can have 3 to 4 shots rapidly squeezed before you can reset because of the .22's low recoil.
Awesome video bro! I carry a Kel Tec P17 for personal defense all day, with aux mag as well. I believe in shot placement and being perforated either by a nine or 22 is equally deadly.
A friend of mine was an ER doc for 10 years in Boston. He said people tend to die of .22 more often than other calibers because of the low stopping power. People get shot and run away, then don’t go to the hospital until they are in bad shape 3 weeks later.
I've heard similar but not three weeks-- that long is a bit absurd-- but hours for sure. Someone tries to walk it off and doesn't realize they nicked a major artery or put a hole in something important that's bleeding severely (typically the liver given its position in the middle of center mass, or the kidneys). Another factor is that because it's low stopping power people tend to fire a lot more rounds, and because the rounds are smaller magazines carry more of them. the low recoil also means that people emptying a magazine will put more rounds into the target, and I don't care if it's a tiny round, no one is having a good day after having 14 to 21 holes poked all the way through their body.
Really happy mike has finally covered this. Been saying for years that a 22lr could actually be an effective carry weapon. Not everyone can carry a 9mm or higher, and some not even a 380 is viable, whereas a 22lr is. An old instructor of mine would always ask, whats better? 1 to 2 horribly placed, possible missed 9mm, or 15 22lr on target
That is, if you can actually get off that many rounds without a failure which depends on much more careful selection of your firearm and ammo than anything centerfire.
22LR is not an effective carry weapon, and this video showed exactly why: there is no instantaneous incapacitation of the assailant unless you happen to get luck and sneak one into the brain.
@@SafeAtSpeed im referring to people who have the inability to carry and fire larger calibers, had you bothered to read the comment. Not everyone can carry common calibers, and those who think they have to from social norms may only get a couple shots off
This has been my point for along time. Lack of recoil means you can dump a ton of lead on target quickly. Think of each shot from a 22 as a single pellet from a shot of 12ga buck shot
A good way to think of .22 LR is like an ice pick that you can use from farther away. You're basically just shivving someone as fast as you can...from across the room. The chances of tagging something important just keep going up the longer you keep shooting.
Since it’s penetration potential isn’t as great as other rounds it would be a good round to use in scenarios where you have to worry about people behind the target such as apartments, high traffic areas, and condensed living areas.
@@SafeAtSpeedhow about you personally take a .22 round to the head and then tell us all afterwards how effective you think it is. I’d be willing to donate one round for the cause.
@@ClipzSanEspecially for home defense or just defense in general. I am a father of 2, a 2 yr old and a 3 mo old. I would hate to use something other than a .22 with a can in a self defense situation when they're around.
Seeing the results here and also similar results from many other videos like this one it shows the type of .22lr ammo used in a pistol is an insignificant difference in performance. In a rifle yes sure there may be some notable differences but in a pistol they’re all moving at virtually the same velocity so it doesn’t really matter
Anything that can penetrate your vitals will make you have a bad time. The fact that a 22LR from a pistol barrel can kill you with proper shot placement, really speaks volumes about firearms in general. Also speaks volumes about the importance of shot placement.
There's a reason the .22 was the most used caliber in the cold war. Very quite and affective round close range and very affective subsonic and suppressed for masking the noise. It was used a lot to execute enemy spies and they could comfortably rely on the fact that the round wouldn't exit the body and go somewhere it wasn't supposed to. It's also a go to for most mobile butchers in agriculture. Mainly for the same reason as it's a safe round to be used in enclosed spaces and around other things your don't want damaged.
Because they were sloppy assassins. Just because people suck at using guns doesn't mean it's the guns fault. Plenty of veterans survive calibers from 5.56 to 7.62. That doesn't mean they are useless. Yes the rate of survival is less but there are pros and cons to every gun. You sacrifice size, weight, dexterity, noise, and recoil for damage and range. For an assassin you want the opposite to attract less attention and not have unnecessary casualities. A smart person would know the strengths and weaknesses of their gun and take advantage of it. If it does less damage and make sure you put an extra shot or two in to make sure they're dead. And this video proved you can easily make sure they're dead. @@aenimate9903
Honestly, it takes everything I have not to skip to their next video after the SDI portion of their video. They have to be happy with their sponsorship.
His look when GT was trying to sell us on the 22 in an end of the world situation haha... He had to drop his head and cover up with his shirt trying to hide his true feelings haha
Charlie's illustrious status as your favorite part of those videos speaks volumes about your dedication to embracing the pinnacle of tastelessness dull dad joke humor.
When all the dust settles from the debate on whether a .22lr is enough power for self defense, I’ve never seen anyone willing to go down range and be shot by one.
Self defense requires the stopping of the threat as fast as possible. A single shot to the chest with a .22 might not be felt by your average meth head regardless of if he dies an hour later long after he robbed + shot you. That's one argument for hollowpoints because the larger and harder hitting round stops attackers. You get shot by a .22 in your chest, you got a 90% chance to not die instantly. Get shot in the chest by a hollowpoint .40cal, you got a 90% chance to die instantly.
@@corvidconfidential8826stats gave that the aggression stopped after 1 shot in 1 third of the cases with a .22, like 32% of the cases if I remember correctly, for the 9mm, it was better, the aggression stopped after 1 shot only in like 36% of the cases, so... One third too, same with .45 ! It is not like in movies, methhead that tank a full mag aren't that common, but they do exist, and sadly even a 9mm will not save you from these rare encounter ! There are police footages where you can see it
@@corvidconfidential8826If full autos were legal I’m pretty sure a Ruger 10/22 with a fun switch and a 25rd mag would be very effective. You might not feel a single .22 instantly but you would definitely and quickly feel being pumped with .22 at 2000 rpm.
The ease of a follow up shot really bumps up the effectiveness of these smaller calibers. You can really tap the trigger without much control and have a pretty decent grouping, especially up close. That + the often higher caliber and concealability makes for a very deadly platform.
yeah i feel like this is a massive plus for 22lr there's minimal recoil and massive magazine capacity so you can quickly dump multiple rounds into a really small area that _will_ ruin someones day
Also ammo is never in short supply. You also could probably carry a whole case of it in a leg pocket or a belt pouch for functionally infinite reloads XD
The vast majority of us know what to expect here, but I bet the vast majority of us also clicked the notification quickly too, cause we know it’s always entertaining, and occasionally a little bit informative from time to time.
@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 You can't hear the actual volume in a recorded video. Subsonic .22LR suppressed is hearing safe, but it isn't whisper quiet by any means.
Living in the county as a kid. I didn't think that I would ever need anything other than a 22 lr. We dispatched 1,000 lb steers with it. Hunted all kinds of small and medium game. In all my years of it. There was only two times the 22 didn't just drop whatever it was in its tracks.
Seems that everyone what's to know the ones that didn't work. The first was a bull. You visualize a X between the eyes and the horns. The aim for the center of the X. That's normally a thin spot in the skull. This time it didn't work (it was not me shooting it was my uncle). So it didn't even phase the bull. So the 357 finished him off. The other was a large pig (also someone else). All the rest have been one shot for over 60 years. We people who grew up in the country may not sit at benches and shoot one inch groups. But when it comes to hunting and butchering we can get the job done.
Yeah we have these Cooey .22 repeaters up here in Canada and there are stories of guys shooting moose with them. Not something I'd try myself but definitely doable.
So the underrated thing about 22 is it doesn't usually exit the body and often fragments into shards as you showed, If someone is shot with it and doesn't immediately die, those shards can travel along the arteries and veins and continue to cause damage far away from the initial impact site. And all the bleeding will be internal, along with any bone chips that are carried with the slug. And those bone chips are the worst. They will be sharper than any knife, and more capable of dealing damage and spreading infection as a result. Getting shot with a 22 and dying immediately is a hitman kill. Getting shot with 22 and surviving, only to bleed out internally, is FAR worse.
When I was about 11 years old in The Boy Scouts, I took the rifle class. The instructor spent the whole first class telling us stories about people being killed by .22 and even showed us a deer skull they it managed to get through. Always respected it after that, no matter how many tests, there is always that chance one can sneak through.
Now they are made of copper instead of lead in many states I can image the penetration is better than it used to be Still gotta love those subsonic lead rounds (They are quiet)
Most assassinations in Mexico was committed with a .22 cal airgun. The pellet isnt much bigger than a .22lr bullet and can have about the same fps as a firearm. .22 has done work.
In the early mob days a 22 was the preferred close assassination weapon for "two to the hat" at close range. The initial bone penetration was good and the exit was not which caused the shot to "bounce around" in the skull cavity causing irreparable lethal damage. And, as you point out, the report is quiet and typically less than ambient area noise sources, as good or even better than silencing devices.
This is a cliché myth that has echoed through the ages from a single uneducated mob dude hypothesizing why people shot in the head from close range with a .22 died consistently. He was hardly a doctor or a ballistics expert, and didn't do an autopsy on the dudes he killed lol. It had more to do with the fact that people shot in the head usually die no matter what (>90% of cases) and shots from most .22s at close range benefit from the pressure created by expelled gas from the barrel and a tiny entry wound.
Paul Harrell pretty much completely debunks the idea that the bullet bounces around inside the skull. That being said, he has also made it clear that .22s are deadly, and the idea that they're very quiet does make them suitable for assassination. Years ago I read a book by a purported Israeli assassin who recounted how he and a team killed a bunch of Palestinian terrorist organizers, in Europe. They used small caliber pistols with short barrels and no silencers, and just shot repeatedly. Only one of the Palestinians, if I remember right, survived.
Damn the 22LR is the only round that sounds kinda like what games say silencers sound like. Not as laser gun beep like but still very close. Truly the best stealth weapon.
"There might be certain opportunities presented where you might have to dispatch someone when they're not quite aware of your presence"The matter of fact way in which he says this is absolutely priceless!😅I rewatched that 30 times and was laughing so hard. Thank you for that OH God I love this channel. BOSTONUSA 🇺🇸
This is a lot more damaging than I originally anticipated. Def. a viable survival option. Psychologically, a gun in your face is a gun in your face. No one on the planet is going to be like "that's only a .22, I could probably survive that". You could fire 3 shots in the time it take to fire and recover a 9 so there's that fact to consider as well.
It's all about bullet placement and will to survive. A large caliber could shatter your shin and you might be walking again within weeks, or shooting your toe off could cause you to bleed out. When I was a kid, I was way too immature to be carrying a gun, but there I was often in the woods with my .22 looking for moving targets, mostly squirrels, but anything really. One evening a small herd of deer passed by down the hill about 75 yards away. I aimed by rifle at the heart of the biggest one and pulled the trigger. The shot missed whizzing directly over it, but close enough to make the animal freeze and crouch slightly. I suddenly remembered reading a book where soldiers in the mountains had to aim low or "at the knees" if they were on higher ground, in order to hit the upper bodies of their enemies due to gravity being less effective the further downward one aims, and oppositely soldiers on far lower ground must aim high due to increased gravitational effect. I brought by sights down to the opening just below the animal's heart and squeezed again. This time the animal dropped and never got back up. The bullet entered straight into the heart and the beast quickly lost it's will to live. If anyone has ever witnessed how strong a deer's will to live can be, you will know how devastating that small caliber bullet placement was to have so cleanly taken out that healthy 6 point buck. That was the last animal I ever shot more than 30 years ago. I now try to protect them by buying land and preserving their habitat.
Knew someone that was killed shooting at a couch with .22 it bounced back and hit them in the leg and bled out thinking they would be okay. I’m glad the test went well for you guys because holy smokes it was scary how close yall were
There's a guy that survived that survived 2 shots to the face with a .22. It was over 2 days before he got medical attention. Ryan waller was his name. Just a crazy story.
I personally know a guy, Nick Flores who survived a 9mm that entered above his right eye and exited behind his left ear. It is amazing what humans can endure. He woke up from the robbery and closed his gun shop and drove home. He doesn't remember any of it. He was running on auto pilot.
There was also that one dude who survived a railroad spike shooting through his jaw, through his frontal lobe, and out the top of his skull, he survived but turned from a respectinle worker into a raging drunk but...he survived for a bit
I responded to a scene locally when I worked for the police department (animal control division). Guy got shot twice with a 22 pistol, one went through his mouth at the sides and the other tore a piece of his jaw out. He lived, but you'd swear from the literal ... piles of congealed blood, he should have been a dead man. I was there to collect a cat that had been left at the scene, and after trudging up three flights of literally bloody stairs, we find out that the victims niece had already come and got the cat. I had never been so glad that our boots had to be BioHaz rated grade 3 or higher.
From what I’ve seen the main problem with .22LR is crappy ammo, you’ve really gotta go for the top of the line stuff to prevent jams and failure-to-fire
I had to put down a fox earlier this year, and I was at my father's house. I went there originally to free the fox from the trap, but he was messed up and covered in yellow jackets. He wasn't in my father's yard, but in the neighbors yard. I called the neighbor and told him about it and everything. Never killed an animal before, I wasn't sure which gun to use. I went with a H&K Mp5 chambered in .22lr because it's not as loud. I regretted choosing .22 so badly. I shot him directly in the head 8 or 9 times, and he still wasn't dead. I had to run a half acre to grab a .38 and finish him, and I've never felt so guilty in my life. I'd never shoot anyone or anything with a .22lr again.
@@drownthepoor.22 can struggle to put down small game occasionally but I’ve never seen something that didn’t die immediately with 1 or 2 head shots up close
I found my uncles very old .25 tiny little silver thing. Wanted to shoot it and the gun is so small with a pretty heavy trigger that practicing with that thing made me a much much better shooter. Seriously insane how much pull you could put on it with the trigger squeeze. Having to focus on it so much helped me a ton.
It's apparently rather annoying because they often have to actually search for the bullet. It tends to get trapped between layers of skin and travel around the body. You could get hit in the face and they have to remove the round from your thigh so they often have to x-ray just to find it. (Per what was told to me by an ER doctor)
@@tarrantwolf as an xray tech i can tell you ive seen all kinds of gunshots and i can without a doubt say nobody has ever been shot in the face and the bullet wraps around to the thigh lol. the magic kennedy bullet was not real
Not that I'm in a hurry to go to prison, but I want to test an LMT 40mm with a hornet's nest 16-round 22LR GP shot...just on ONE three-letter former bartender. I HIGHLY doubt it would be a "final act" or anything, but I'd like to hear the ER doc's play-by-play fixing [them] up.
Ammunition isn't just cheap, it's light and small. I have always thought a .22 pistol would be the best weapon if I was in a survival situation that wasn't just daily bear fights.
My dad had 4 .22 slugs in his hip until the day he died because the doctor said it was more dangerous to try and remove them than to just leave them alone.
10:09 That’s hilarious because professional assassins all over the planet have sworn by a silenced .22 you could take somebody out in the same room as a witness and they might not even notice what happened.
When I was 18 I was walking at night in a bad neighborhood, long story short I was mugged and shot from a distance of around 3 yards. I quite literally walked home thinking someone had tried to rob me with a bb gun. Found out at the hospital later that a .22 had bounced along my collar bone and lodged about 3 inches from point of entry. Doctor pulled out the round with tweezer and I didn't believe it was an actual bullet until I saw it.
Yo Garand Thumb, This is why the first Pistol I bought with MY money was a 22 Mag. I had also read the book, "In Broad Daylight" about an entire town executing their 'Town-Bully', Ken McElroy on the 10Th of July, 1981 in MO. He was shot with a 12 Ga shotgun, a 30.06, AND a 22 Lr. At the autopsy it was proven that it was the 22 to the temple that killed McElroy. Thanks for the Post, ~Mark~
I think the thing the 22LR does well is dump absolutely all of its energy into the target. When you have a projectile ending up just under the surface on the downrange side of the target, that means that every single newton of kinetic energy that bullet had has been spent into the target with none left over. Any kind of overpenetration means that some of that energy was left in the bullet.
That's true, but I think it misses something. A 29 grain .22 bullet out of a 4 inch barrel going about 948 feet per second will have (rounded to the nearest whole number) 58 energy foot pounds. Whereas a 115 grain 9mm bullet out of a 4 inch barrel going about 1094 feet per second has (rounded) 306 energy foot pounds. In other words, a 9mm round out of a comparable barrel length has five and a quarter times more impact energy than a .22 round. If the 9mm transferred half of its energy into the target, it would still be more than two and a half times more energy than a .22 that came to a full stop in the target.
The fackler school suggests that 9mm is about 4x as effective as .22LR as it expands to 4x larger frontal area than .22LR hollowpoints (.66-inch vs .33-inch) but the project SALVO studies say you get diminishing returns making a bigger hole as if you hit the heart with anything it's KIA, and a bigger hole in the lung will result in the same effect of the lung collapsing. Project SALVO concludes it's better to have more smaller projectiles as the more projectiles the greater chance of both lungs being hit or at least one bullet hitting the heart. Kinetic energy is a good relative guide but it is hard to relate it to reality, to what actually has a specific effect.
@@TreblaineWhich is why I imagine the ideal is a 9mm with quite a few rounds and enough practice to fire those rounds quickly and accurately. If you're a big dude with giant man hands, then maybe a larger round still in a double stack pistol would be effective, but my little baby hands would not be able to get enough rounds on target quickly with anything over 9mm.
@@TheSpecialJ11 You could go even smaller than 9mm. It's a balance of how much faster you can shoot with an even lighter recoiling round, the number of hits and accuracy of hits count way more. The major limitation in self-defense shootings is getting the shots out quick enough without missing.
Actually, a buddy of mine who retired from the US Marshall's Office, said that the PREFERRED weapon of the MOB was the .22 revolver. It doesn't make a loud noise, and is incredibly effective at close range.
As a former member of organized crime the revolver is preferred because it doesn't eject the shells. There is also further ballistics stuff that doesn't happen with it. They can't match the slug to it. I liked it because it was like a cowboy thing, man to man 10 paces not 9 not 9 and a half. Man to man. I nearly risked my life to save a woman and her baby from a truck yesterday, I didn't have time to think I was just ready to get them out of the way. That's how everyone was, I'm sure any of those guys would have done the same. So not news worthy info.
@@axelsjoberg7979 Yeah my best friends dad was a famous gangster in Australia. Now I'm into helping the environment. The government is still the main enemy. Who would have thought the same ones against the sale of narcotics would be the same ones allowing the burning of fossil fuels!
Saw a Tweet, "A thousand dollars is a lot to owe, but not a lot to have."
I'm reminded of that, because if I was armed with a 22LR pistol for self-defense, I would feel under-armed. But if someone was pointing one at me, I would feel in danger of my life.
Good take.
Well put
Damn, that’s a powerful way to put it in perspective.
It depends on the ammo and the barrel length in my opinion. Different people (including WDM Bell) have demonstrated that the .22 handgun can penetrate into a cow's skull, and kill it. But if the angle or placement is wrong, it can easily deflect off the cow's skull and be mostly harmless.
@@infogunvault6920 so you just summed up what the OP said.
I spent 30 years between combat medicine and pre-hospital emergency medicine. I've seen every entry wound shown in this video and many that weren't. The most interesting case, at the time, was an unconscous male where we found the .22 pistol next to his body and trying as hard as we could, we couldn't find a bullet entry or exit anywhere. As he was deteriorating, had to intubate him, where we inserted the breathing tube into his lungs. It was at that point that we discovered with the light on our instrument a small slightly more pink area in the back of his mouth in the soft palate. It turns out that he jammed the barrel as far back in his mouth as he could, aimed upward as best he could, and pulled the trigger. Game over. 100% of the energy of that bullet was absorbed by his skull and his brains. When I was a child, my grandfather told a story of when he was in Germany in WWII. His unit was moving forward and they heard a shot ring out and the guy in front of my grandfather dropped like a rock. When they rolled him over, he had an entry wound in the middle of his forehead. Game over for that guy. The medic made his way forward, took a look and said there was nothing they could do. They were stuck there for a bit due to incoming fire and after a little while, the guy shot in the forehead started moaning and sat up. My grandfather thought he was going to have a heart attack because it looked like the guy was rising from the dead. Their medic did a closer examination and it was revealed that the bullet hit him in the middle of the forehead at what must have been a slight angle. The bullet then traveled the entire circumference of his head between the skull and the skin and then exited out the same hole it created upon entry. I remember my grandfather telling this story and as a kid, I thought it was just a war story embellishment. Then, I grew up, joined the Navy and became a Hospital Corpsman who spent all my time as a combat medic with the Marine Corps. One of my more advanced ballistic classes I received was given by an ER physician who told a virtually identical story of one of his patients. It was at that point I realized the story my grandfather told wasn't some war-time embellished combat story. Now, having seen more bullet wounds than I can count over the decades, I can tell you that bullets can enter one area and come out in a completely different part of the body or even, crazily enough, out the entry wound.
Amazing yet still hard to believe! Thank you for your service
I value your experience. Bullets are terrifying. Video games and movies make you forget how terrible it truly is to be shot
Awesome sir❤
The WW2 story makes some sense to me, seems possible but rare. I know you can guide a bullet down a pipe, even a PVC pipe. I can see how at the right velocity and angle the bullet could maybe have just enough force to penetrate the skin but not the skull at the angle, and the soft skin and the hard skull next to each other could make a pipe like effect, and if everything is right it could go around and out, maybe.
That's brilliant.😮
Out the same hole?😂😂🫣
Bullet immunity is very important to practice. See, their issue was not starting with metal BBs.
Remember 1 pump only for true beginners
BBs, yes 1 pump until you are immune. Then work up to 10 pumps. Then go to pellets. Repeat.
This how we did it in the Mojave. I am now immune to 20mm
@@williamjeffersonclinton69*laughs in Boomer artillery barrage*
Wait, I'm confused to frozen paintball come before or after bb's? Where do the pellets come into play?
Got a BB behind my eye still, almost died.
As a OR RN I work at a level 1 trauma center. We check on Level 1 and 2 traumas to ascertain if we need to bring them directly from the trauma bay to the OR. I listened to one of the recorded messages on a soon to arrive trauma which stated GSW to the head entrance and exit wound, alert and oriented. ???????????!!!!! Turned out that the patient had been jack lighting deer with a .22 rifle. He had the barrel straight up in their truck when they hit a bump. The rifle discharged, ricocheted off the roof, hit him square on top of the head, the bullet had expended some of its energy and did not pierce the skull but traveled under the skin around his head and exited on the lower portion of his head. Full recovery.
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This is the second comment on this video about a bullet circumventing someone's skull! Truth is stranger than fiction- I would never have believed that if I saw it in a movie.
“I had a lot of internet access as a child, it wasn’t good for me”
I felt this so much. Thanks Documenting Reality.
Oh God. Flashbacks to forensic science class...
Ebaum'sWorld was a riot as a middle schooler. 😸
To be fair, it has made me very conscious around stuff like heavy equipment or machinery in general. Not trying to be the Indian guy in the pics that got ran over by an excavator looking like hamburger with his eyes popping out of his head.
In the early 2000s you couldn't go a day on the web without stumbling on a beheading video, hardcore porn or scooter rider smeared by a truck
Cartel shenanigans are very educational.
I can say from things I've personally witnessed in the ER, .22lr is more than capable. The scary thing is how many people don't understand that and act like it's a glorified BB gun.
It kills a lot of people because people that don't own one, but talk a lot of crap seem to spread that it's harmless.
It kind of is a glorified BB gun. It has the highest survival rate of any handgun rounds.
@@Elitist8you can't tell me with that logic you would put a 22 any where near a bb gun, pellet gun in the same category?
The damage done by a pellet gun is more similar to a 22? Or is it more similar to other small handgun calibers such as 380 or 9mm?
@@Elitist8most people murdered from guns are from a 22.
@@Elitist8 Which would you rather stand in front of? .22LR or a BB?
I had a “discussion” with someone online who honest to God believed a .22 would not penetrate human skin beyond point blank
lmao
It wasn't Nomad, in his Crysis nanosuit was it?
I saw a dash cam vid of a cop trying to arrest a guy. The suspect was shot 4 or 5 times by the cop with .357 sig If my memory serves. Then the suspect raised his little 22lr and pointed it at the cop. The cop bladed instinctively when he saw the gun pointed at him. Very unfortunate reflex. When he turned he exposed his left side gap in armor. The round went under his arm into his heart. The cop was standing by the suspects rear passenger quarter panel and barley made it around to the drivers side front fender before he fell. He pleaded into his mic for about 5 seconds then fell silent and still. The late officer was a big guy too. The suspect remained standing pointing his weapon in case the cop came back for another 20-30 seconds. We all know it's about shot placement. The question is how likely is it that a heart shot can be achieved. Of course training = skill.
I actually had a "discussion" with a college professor (Pasadena City College, Ca 1987) that said a car window would stop a point blank shotgun blast. She stood her ground even after half the class laughed out loud.
@airgunfun4248 - A wooden arrow from a primitive bow, A small metal ball bearing from a wrist rocket can also achieve a lucky shot through the armpit, even a sharp stick would do this job...
I’m watching this because my mom carries a 22 and wanted to know if it will actually stop a threat fast enough. Thank you this is very helpful. God bless you man!
Yeah
Same reason here haha
@@AB-jp2ebdoesn’t matter what gun you have in your hands if you get shot first. Dude can have a Desert Eagle and it won’t make a difference if he takes five 22.s to the chest
@@AB-jp2eb would be if its a headshot and/or faceshot
I talked my mom into 380 for her minimum. Use xtreme defenders or penetrators. Hollow points won't go deep enough.
One thing that always comes to mind when discussing .22 for self defense, is that the .22 on your body is a lot better than the .44 in your nightstand. If you carry a .22 and can adequately utilize it, you're far from disarmed. While something like a .380 or a 9mm would be more reliable for self defense, if you can properly utilize your .22, your .22 can be rather effective.
Not many likes for your comment. But you are totally correct.
I agree 100%
And if you use CCi Segmented hollow points, they will get the job done. 15+1 in a Ruger SR22 with 2 other 15 round mags in your pockets. Not a bad summer carry option.
Until meat becomes impervious to metal
.380 auto is a good compromise, I think. By all means, if you're going stupid places at stupid times (like the 7/11 at 2 AM), grab your bigger gun, but that's annoying to have to carry all the time. This little 22 is great, but I'd be concerned about chest penetration through that sternum, seeing how that's where your self defense target is gonna be.
Mike has been slowly becoming more unhinged over the years and I am _so_ here for it.
Anyone that stumbles upon this video that isn’t into guns at all will 100% think it’s wrong and say he’s a psychopath. 😂
@@iZephiroth he usually tries to draw some connection to self defense but I guess that's hard to do when you're testing a back of the neck shot, I love it lmao.
I’d go with unleashed. I think he’s always been that way.
.22 LR BERETTA PISTOL 🔫 is the Favorite Assassin's weapon of the MOSSAD, THE ISRAELI HIT TEAM 😮
" and we are reaping all the benefits! "
Forty years ago, an accidental discharge with a .22 LR killed a personal friend. He was walking down a country road with two friends, with his .22 rifle slung over his shoulder, muzzle up. The sling slipped off his shoulder, and when the buttstock hit the ground, the rifle discharged, which sent a round into his skull.
Instantly dead.
RIP Dean.
Edit: thanks for the condolences and upvotes… those weren’t my reason for posting - though they are appreciated. For the record, I brought it up b/c of the video… 1 personal story demonstrating that a .22 cal. CAN kill a person. Most definitely.
May he rest in peace
Om Shanti
Terribly sorry for your loss. I hope that people read these comments and keep things like that in mind, to help improve awareness of gun safety.
Forty years man, damn. Hope you’re well, he would appreciate you still thinking of him
That's a darwin award winner if I've ever heard of one.
8:24 “maybe the real suppressor was the friends we made along the way” in a whole new light
"The only person that's going to remember you working late is your kid"
Geezzz that hit harder than it was supposed to
Gonna have to get me a kid if I intend on any legacy at all I 'spose.
Fuck...
I'm gonna go tell my dad I love him now
Yikes… That’s intense
Maybe
@Mister_Clean the comments can be taken in several different ways. I instantly thought prioritized money over family. It appears you thought sacrifice over what your father wanted. The nuance in English is incredible
Actually the best dad advice that this channel has ever given. Well played Charles, well played!
Especially given the modern cultural push to destroy the family unit.
grandthumbs "only your kids will remember you working late" that was awesome too
Sweaty disabled idiots?
@@gunner1963 at what timestamp is this
In a alternate universe there is a GarandThumb who got a medical degree and became the best surgeon known to man
And then suffered a crippling accident, destroying the dexterity of his hands, leading to him becoming a sorcerer
@@williamflowers9435and sorcery didn't work out so he ran a Travis Haley cloning facility, overseeing project Facilitative Conclusions
evil garandthumb be like *flawlessly perfoms surgery and saves a life*
Where does Charlie fit into this alternate universe?
@@williamflowers9435Mike found him in California
This 22 vs human video reminds me of when I was a young apprentice in the trades. One of the older guys carried a tiny hammer in his tool pouch which had a head the size of my thumb. I remember making fun of him for carrying this "tiny" hammer and telling him it's useless. When he looked me in the eye and said "If you think it's useless, put your thumb down right here and we'll se how useless it is."
Needless to say, he made his point.
Although a .22 may not do the damage a 9mm will, I surely don't want to be shot at with one.
I've ran EMS for about 20 years. I don't go on shootings often, but have seen a couple dozen or so. Each time that a .22 was involved (maybe a 1/4th?), the bullet always ended up far away from the point of entry. I swear that I have seen a shot in the hip end up down in the knee cap, under the skin it looked like a BB. Some of those were one-shot, one-kill too.
i’d imagine the guarantee (?) of no exit wound with a .22 would also be scary
@@creedstump0662Yeah that means they'd have to do diagnostic tests to actually find where the bullet is and these will take crucial time away from treatment.
@@creedstump0662 I don't think I have seen one. I can say that the explanation of the bullet "bouncing around" in the body is accurate.
Ever heard of the American 180?
"Death by angry bees"
Imagine being the bloke who has to deal with someone who was shot with that and just holding on
a South carolina state trooper wearing a vest took a single .22 cal shot to the arm pit and bled out and died on the highway within 1 minute by some guy he just shot 5 times with a 357 magnum
A friend of mine used to say, "The .22 is only a pansy round until you actually get shot by it". I can say, from my own personal experience, that a .22 round to the head will drop a large mature horse instantly. Years ago, I did some volunteer work at a big cat sanctuary and they fed the cats donated horses that were old, blind, injured, etc. Part of the volunteer work was to dispatch the horses, which was done with a Ruger MK 2. I only did one and this horse was so spooky that you couldn't just walk up on it at point blank range like they usually did. Apparently, this horse was donated to the sanctuary solely because of his temperament. He was spooky, not broken and apparently so aggressive that his owner felt this was the only option. He was so spooky that I had to basically back off from the coral for quite awhile and then finally took the shot from about 12 to 15 feet away when the horse came to a stop and faced me. I kind of had my doubts, but had been assured that a .22 was quite adequate for the job if the shot was well placed. So ... the horse literally folded up on all four legs and dropped instantly. I mean, literally "lights out" like you just hit a switch and had turned him off. It was kind of a weird, surreal life experience that was unpleasant enough that I packed it in later that day, but it just really goes to show that a well placed shot from a .22 pistol can drop and instantly kill an animal much bigger than any man out there and not limited to just point blank range, either. I've had a pretty hardy respect for the lowly .22 ever since. The ammo, by the way, was a 32 grain CCI Stinger. I usually have a 9mm as a daily carry, but really wouldn't hesitate to rely on a .22 if it was all I happened to own or could afford. That's especially true when you consider that their low recoil can really deliver a lot of accurate, well placed shots in a matter of seconds if you're competent with it.
My grandpa raised hogs. We killed them with a .22 rifle.
@@tonyjones2994 and pigs got thick skulls too
Thanks for that info. More people should know a 22 can drop a horse. I do recall using a 22 as a kid and doing a lot of damage to a lot of things and knew right away no human is taking a shot from a 22 to the head. Even though plenty of people act as if it is only slightly stronger than a BB gun. It should never be shot at people
There's a RUclipsr, who hunts pythons in florida, he uses a 22 on those beasts, straight to the dome
When I was growing up on a farm we used a .22 rifle to butcher hogs point blank behind the ear it would drop them also on that show swamp people they use a .22 on alagters
the best SDI take yet, Charlie is such a whacky member of the team, i love that he is always wandering around in the back round, makes me laugh every time.
I agree, the combination of experiments being demonstrated while a guy chases imaginary butterflies is extremely amusing to watch.
In the past I thought he was just the autistic neighbor kid that came over every time he heard them shooting. He hasn't done much to make me think otherwise.
> _the best SDI take yet_
Yep, that was genius - never have seen Flannel Daddy getting *_that_* blindsided. 🙂
Actually, I'm a person who got shot by .22lr Margo old soviet pistol - into my stomach. Just as your first shot in the video. I received only 1 shot and run away. It was an assassination attempt (with a plan to blame me for being an attacker).
I almost died. But not because of the injury iteslf. , but father infection that got really serious. And I received immediate medical treatment. I was very lucky to survive.
They operated me 7 times all together.
They couldnt take out the bullet. I'm living with it. The lead is poisoning my body.
I remember that I estimated to have enough strength to keep walking another 2kms, if I would have to.
Actually I just finished another court session 1 h ago
@dawidw.6016 ive been shot between the eyes with a 22 and its all in my face as fragments. I had lead testing done 3 years after and i had "lower than measurable" amount of lead in my blood test. Turns out the lead from bullets isnt very mobile in a body and isnt "poisonous" Lead poisoning comes from soluable lead from paint, etc or dust. You are safe from the bullet lead, if thats any comfort. Hope the healing goes good!
@@landerson6983 Man, I'm glad you are alive and I can read your comments. We both were lucky
Wow this is crazy 😮
@@landerson6983you’ve got to give more context than that my man. Sorry to hear about it, and I’m glad you’re okay, but I’d really love to hear about how you got shot in the forehead and survived.
This is one of the greatest episodes ever. Anyone else feel like after GT left duty that his content just improved far beyond what it already was? Like, greatest to greatestest!
I think this channel has gotten too silly
Now he gets to be haggard and openly jaded instead of haggard and quietly jaded. His voice will also probably drop, and he will immediately go gray, lol.
@crazylegokid27 you must be so much fun at parties.
@@MichaelVanHeemstGotta maintain while at the same time draw in the millenials too. Doesn't take long at all to get swiped by.
@@MichaelVanHeemst Exactly
A standard 22 pistol report is actually quieter than average amounts of city traffic to begin with, so upping that factor with a suppressor is pretty awesome
Exactly, there were reports of snipers in Iraq using .22 near busy roads at checkpoints aiming and shooting for the face within 100 yards .
Yes if you're talking about suppressed bolt-action rifles they make basically no sound, except for a slight "click".
Suppressed semi-auto 22LR pistols on an other hand are much louder !
@@HellGatefr2 Pistols generally even bit louder than rifles because more unburned powder
to ignite/burn in supressor than with rifle length barrel. But yes action noise is a thing
what is very hard to tame with semi-automatics.
Thats why if you want quiet as possible you want to least 16 inch barrel bolt action
with good supressor and subsonics loads with quality powder which will burn cleanly
before bullet even exit from a barrel.
Shorter barrels tend to leave more unburned powder resin to supressor because
most of ammo is optimised to rifle length barrels.
Unless you are standing more than 90 degrees in front of the barrel, then they can really hurt your ears, most people only listen from the shooting location
I just have to say that Charlie is something else. Most A-list actors seriously struggle to play this type of character convincingly, yet he just effortlessly embodies this awkward fool archetype. It's genuinely impressive how well he nails everything from the humor to the smallest subtleties of the body language. Idk if he has a background in acting and comedy, but he definitely has more than what it takes. He really adds a lot to the channel and I just want to voice some appreciation for what he does.
For example, at 5:40 when Mike says "We'll give it a shot", and Charlie awkwardly turns on his heel and blankly stares at him. It's just gold. haha
Just think, this might be his real character.
It's almost like he's is being genuine... lmao it is his character dude is not an actor. Might lean into it a bit but I don't think he is practicing for hours in front of a mirror for us lol.
Charlie must be protected at all costs!
He has military experience I’m pretty sure. They usually act like that lol.
A friend of mine was shot in the head with a .22 Rifle on the 4th of July and few years ago and it killed him. RIP Charlie!
Garand: "We spend about 80% of our time dry-firing."
Me: "You might wanna see a doctor about that."
😂
Sounds like a Cyraxx/Chance Wilkins problem agagaga
So are you using a moly oil for your dry firing, or still on some vegi thing like olive.
Oh my god so original and funny bro! They should get you on the channel with your kind of creativity.
*dry humping
I used to work for a coroner's office and saw a suicide with a snub nose .38 under the chin like you did and it had a very similar result. The bullet went all the way through the head and broke the skull on the top. It was stopped by the skin on the top of the head. Pretty cool to see this torso behaving similarly.
@@ZeevGhaavI'm sure it impacted their tennis game
@@ZeevGhaav What are you talking about lol
@@42ZaphodB42he's asking if they had incriminating information about the Clinton's.
@@getthegoons I'm just baffled that people see conspiracies everywhere nowadays. In random ass youtube comments lol.
I once had the pleasure of photographing a US Navy member who had committed suicide by shooting himself under the chin with a .44 mag. The top of his head was like looking down, into an empty snow cone cup.... all the way to the entrance hole! His eyes were hanging out, dangling on his cheeks. You don't forget things like that.
Not sure why but Garand Thumb has that “dad that’s extremely angry you can’t hold the dang flashlight right” look today
sunscreen in eyes causing swelling
@@GarandThumb I’ll have to remember that excuse next time
Well, hold the dang flashlight right
@@GarandThumb riiiiiight
Dont ever forgët the USS Libërty and the men who died on that day
0:13 he fell almost perfectly 🤣
Deadass ragdolled
Having worked in Emergency Medicine for awhile, one case comes to mind. We had a guy brought in with multiple gunshot wounds. He was entirely conscious, and answering all our questions. While we were examining him and looking for injuries, I found a small caliber entry wound that looked like it had been made by a .22. This round hit his left upper arm, passed through his tricep, exited his arm, and entered his side. During the course of examining him, we found that he'd been hit twice from the left. Of the two rounds, one came to rest in his chest, while the other took a more "creative" route. We finally found that one on CT scan. It hit one of his ribs, deflected, and traveled almost the entire length of his torso before coming to rest just shy of his bladder. Not a single round posed any direct life threats, but dude was most definitely incapacitated. One of the things he told us was that it hurt way too much for him to move. Safe to say, he was very lucky. From what we were told, he was running when he was hit. If the shooter had been any closer, and/or if he'd been stationary, things would have been different.
@PremRajput15901 people wont believe the animals ive hunted successfully with a 22 caliber rifle 30-40-50 grain, even smaller is definately capable killing with a well placed shot. Best believe that :)
@@mattiaskeinnn3317 A 50's Grizzly record that stood for years was held by an Indigenous-Canadian woman named Bella Twin who used a .22. She was using a Cooey Ace 1 single shot .22 that had duct-tape holding it together.
A few inches the other way and he'd haven't been shot at all.
@@scottashe984 yeah, it was, and wasn't, his lucky night.
Thanks for sharing this story. This is exactly my issue with a 22. He was shot by a 22 and had he been armed with a 9mm and returned fire, most likely the other guy won’t make the hospital. 22 is best used in situations where your target won’t have an opportunity to return fire.
I love that SDI, primary arms, and aac are still sponsoring even with all the shenanigans. Really makes me want to support them. Once I actually have time breathe outside of work, definitely looking at sdi.
Yeah learn how to gunsmith online... lol.. that's like learning to run by sitting down
@@goodluck2522 : So for what you were in school ?
You were in school ?
@@TomKappeln you having a stroke?
I took a peek at the SDI class and lmao I can learn all that by building a single AR or P80 from scratch by myself
@@boygonewhoopdataZZ it's a complete scam
I love how hard Charlie had everyone laughing without any of it being cut out, I loved seeing Garand Thumb laugh harder than he ever has in any video ever
I had to go see what Ivar the Boneless was all about.
The first video of yours Ive ever seen, and Ive been gun tubing for a while. I laughed my ass off, I loved it you two are awesome. Subscribed. Cant wait to watch more.
As quiet as the .22 suppressor is, we all know the most effective suppressor is suppressing fire
The entire idea of ww1
Suppressing fire followed by close air support......with napalm. Ya, that's the ticket.
Easy Cyril Figgis.
Or bombing the all the villages and towns before you even get troops on the ground --> see Gulf War
The real suppressor is the friends we made along the way
My best friend was murdered beside me with a .22 I couldn’t find the bullet hole to apply pressure, no blood I checked as fast as I could and called it in. They told me after in the autopsy the small caliber round entered through his lower abdomen hitting a rib and ricocheting off his rib through his lug and into his lower heart. These guns sometimes have a slight look of an air-soft pistols so they are often not quite as effective in scaring the person on the other end.
Damn sorry dude
Sorry for your loss
I'm really sorry. I lost my best friend 2 years ago and it broke me. Stay strong.
CHICAGO LATIN KINGS
I'm really sorry to hear that. That's awful luck.
It warms my heart every time someone gets Mike to break character.
Thumb: “Charles, you do know that this is not a real person right?”
Charles: “Like a communist.”
Pure Gold!!
If not for those "not real persons", dude would be speaking German 😂 but ok
Charley was on fire. Even the Dad advice was spot on.
the ivar the boneless reference killed me
" Like a Communist "
These guys kill me every time I stop by here.
A little hunter Biden
There's a lot to be said about the non-intimidation factor for the wielder. A heavy 22lr pistol is like shooting a staple gun, so follow-up shots are significantly easier to keep accurate.
Vice versa too though... how many times have we seen a civvie get the drop on some guy in an armed robbery and it's the noise of the shots that make the bad guy take off running? A really loud bang could be the difference between leaving them with enough time to fire back, even with some good shots to the chest, vs. disorienting them and triggering the fight or flight response we all have to really loud sounds.
⌚ Europa thê last battlê
That's why I carry a fn5.7
@@HateSpeechMoreLikeBasedSpeech I have never seen this. most people would fumble their gun in their hands and then miss most shots, wounding/killing bystanders before getting the bad guy, if they get the bad guy at all. most people don't practice with their weapons and they should. should be a requirement. passing an in person driving test and written test should be a requirement for maintaining a driver's license too. would make our world less lethal but here we are
@@berengerchristy6256
>Should be a requirement
And that leads to more and more "common sense" and "for your safety" regulations
The terrifying part isn't the fact that the .22 is effective, it's the thought of the semi / permanent state of vegetation they'll cause due to the lack of wound channel expansion. In essence this is the ice pick in the lobotomy.
It's the "Basic Instinct" of gats? Like the Sharon Stone of firearms?
I can think of many people who would do well to have a lobotomy...
I got shot piont blank in the chest. The ball round hit my vein going to my lower body. Then passed through my liver, followed my ribs and stopped in my spine. I slowly stopped breathing because my chest was filling up with blood. The doctor had to cut my chest open to pinch my vien so I could make it to surgery. DR Sandafer saved my life. See the thing with a 22 lr. Is it spins fast than it penatrates. When it stops going forward, Its still spinning and becomes a pin ball and grabs tissue.
@@timlambert9771 Glad you lived to tell the tale but any reason why you got shot point blank with a .22? Or just a “hold my beer” type of thing?
Wait so that's more terrifying than near instant incapacitation leading to certain deletion, very shortly after, with something much more effective like a 9mm hollow point (that will blow most of the brains out)? Make some sense.
I love how the host is saying "Well it hit the rib/sternum and shattered I don't think that's a fatal blow" Yea you want to go ahead and count where all the little bone and metal fragments went into the body? It's very possible that it didn't kill the person, but also very possible that one of those 10-20 fragments ended up somewhere it shouldn't. I had a personal friend who took damage to his clavicle bone. They thought he would be ok and suddenly he passed away. The autopsy reviled his clavicle bone had splintered and many of those fragments made it into his aorta. Some injuries don't seem fatal, but until you REALLY take the aftermath into account, some of those shots could still very well kill someone EVEN with proper medical intervention.
“I guess the real suppressor the entire time was a human body” -Garand Thumb
Wha
Made it 69
So my mother survived a shot to the back of her head from a 22 revolver. She worked at a pharmacy and an ex cop came in, put everyone on their knees and killed 2 of the 4 people with them. With all that said, I look at this video with a different perspective than most. I’m just glad my mom knew to move the moment she did to not get hit straight on. Always love your videos my man. Stay strapped. Sources ruclips.net/video/LxPlnUir9cY/видео.html ruclips.net/video/EQShb7a_tH0/видео.html
That’s tragic man I’m glad she survived. Is there any news on this incident? I’d like to read more about it
Source: His ass
@@DeeDee-bm9hrThere's always one of you.
@@DeeDee-bm9hrlots of people have survived being shot in the head.
It happens.
@@cosmicbilly Met a local who survived a round to the temple, supposedly because they put the barrel directly to his forehead, which slightly slowed down the bullet with back pressure. Not sure if the last part was true, but he had the scar to prove it.
I love every single thing about this channel but honestly the dash of legit fatherly advice at the end just makes it for me. It’s always nice to have wholesome people be so based.
Charles has been an absolute blessing, or curse for the the channel.
Mike has become more and more unhinged and it’s amazing.
I'm glad you did the multi-shot tests, because I think the almost total lack of muzzle climb is a big feature of the 22. One shot's not going to do as much damage as other calibers, but you can just keep dumping without losing your aim
.22 with 100 rd drum😂😂
Except when ur 22lr jams 😂
@@carsonhunt4642 Yeah, I'm not going to act like 22lr is a perfect round
@@devilishirvthat would be so fun😭😭😭😭
@@carsonhunt4642 I mean, .22lr doesn't jam as much now as it used to because a lot of the ammunition is better. Just don't buy remington ammo and you should be fine lmao
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the comedic genius that Charlie offers to the videos.
Charlie is Steve Zahn from Reality Bites
It’s like old school SNL where they’re trying to set everyone else off. 😂
I'm just happy to see special needs people given a chance in the community...
no it adds 10 minutes to a video that could be 5
Charlie ate my hamster! You can't trust him!
The fact that SDI puts up with Charlie’s antics and is still a sponsor proves they are a true patriots.
Or they know it is true. Not saying.
Tbh him constantly fucking up the name makes me remember the company better.
@@darkchild130 ^^^^ THIS. Perfect marketing strat actually...
The way these ads are structured and produced is actually rhetorically fascinating. It gives the impression of just two buddies talking about a product or service they value, even though it's _definitely_ a deliberate ad read. SDI is going to have a hard time finding more quality advertising than this.
@@StupidAnon-gn8ih Same with Primary Arms'. Don't know of any other company that'd allow creators to come up with "promotions" for them
Efective on CEO's
Came here for this
@@LJXrot We all did.
I have used both 9mm and 22lr at the range. And it is surprising at how more accurate you can be with a 22 at the same range due to the reduced recoil. And if you want to make sure you don't shoot your neighbor if that is your home defense weapon, CCI now makes a 22lr segmented round which splits into three sections on impact. Now imagine that high speed discharge with 12 rounds that actually equal 36 flechettes. This is a varmint round. I wish they would have compared round types in addition to grain.
The Beretta 81 in .32 is a pleasant lower middle ground. 1000 fps because of the barrel length and a lot more power than a 22.
@@jlw2915 But we get to that magic issue, ammo availability. During the Obama years we had to wait outside of Gander Mountain twice a week to buy ammo, and exotic calibers like .32 or .25 weren't easy to find. Heck, even .380 was a rare bird to find.
Yup, this video has sold me on the hk 22 mp5.
The low recoil makes it accurate and deadly, let's say your opponent pulls a 9mm or 40s&w ect. The bigger the caliber the longer the reset time, and on a moving target it gets worse the higher the caliber unless you specifically on purpose train reset timing after every shot and drawing. I personally carry a 9mm every day, I wouldn't be opposed to carrying a .22 . I always say, make sure you don't miss your first shot against a .22 because they can have 3 to 4 shots rapidly squeezed before you can reset because of the .22's low recoil.
This is why the AR platform is so popular in 223 or 556
Charlie always has me in tears. He's become my favorite part of these videos lol
I feel the same, I get annoyed when he isn’t in the videos.
I dont think I've ever seen Charlie make Thumb break character before. That was gold.
Awesome video bro! I carry a Kel Tec P17 for personal defense all day, with aux mag as well. I believe in shot placement and being perforated either by a nine or 22 is equally deadly.
Charlie's comedic presence in these videos keeps getting better and better. That guy is a treasure.
Funny because I found most of his bits annoying.
@@HeyitsLEEtheagent everyone has preferences for comedy, however a lot of people enjoy him so I don't believe he's going anywhere for a while
@@tatermna0557 and my preference was that I didn't ask.
@@HeyitsLEEtheagent who pissed in your cheerios lmao
He's like bubbles of trailer park 😂
A friend of mine was an ER doc for 10 years in Boston. He said people tend to die of .22 more often than other calibers because of the low stopping power. People get shot and run away, then don’t go to the hospital until they are in bad shape 3 weeks later.
If I’m protecting myself I’d rather them die on the spot from 357…not 3 weeks later from a 22
I've heard similar but not three weeks-- that long is a bit absurd-- but hours for sure. Someone tries to walk it off and doesn't realize they nicked a major artery or put a hole in something important that's bleeding severely (typically the liver given its position in the middle of center mass, or the kidneys). Another factor is that because it's low stopping power people tend to fire a lot more rounds, and because the rounds are smaller magazines carry more of them. the low recoil also means that people emptying a magazine will put more rounds into the target, and I don't care if it's a tiny round, no one is having a good day after having 14 to 21 holes poked all the way through their body.
@@dangerszewski9816it’s like getting stabbed from 10 feet away with a barbecue fork in less than second repeatedly
Who gets shot and not get it removed yall watching to many 🎬 movies
@@jontaylor8188like yeah what the hell
Really happy mike has finally covered this. Been saying for years that a 22lr could actually be an effective carry weapon. Not everyone can carry a 9mm or higher, and some not even a 380 is viable, whereas a 22lr is. An old instructor of mine would always ask, whats better? 1 to 2 horribly placed, possible missed 9mm, or 15 22lr on target
That is, if you can actually get off that many rounds without a failure which depends on much more careful selection of your firearm and ammo than anything centerfire.
22LR is not an effective carry weapon, and this video showed exactly why: there is no instantaneous incapacitation of the assailant unless you happen to get luck and sneak one into the brain.
Never heard of a 9mm that only holds 1 or 2 shots? Seems like a bit of an unfair and honestly stupid comparison
@@SafeAtSpeed im referring to people who have the inability to carry and fire larger calibers, had you bothered to read the comment. Not everyone can carry common calibers, and those who think they have to from social norms may only get a couple shots off
@@jimjamauto ive had only a handful of jams from my thousands of rounds on my 22lr pistol, and even less from my 22 rifle
“what kind of hitman uses a .22” a hitman in 2024
This has been my point for along time. Lack of recoil means you can dump a ton of lead on target quickly. Think of each shot from a 22 as a single pellet from a shot of 12ga buck shot
@@scottwermuth9201actually it depends on what size buckshot you’re using-0, 00, 000, #1,#2,#3,#4 (this being very close to .22 caliber).
I can out a lot of lead on target with anything.
00 Buck pellets avg .35 dia. That's really close the same diameter as 9mm which .355.
A good way to think of .22 LR is like an ice pick that you can use from farther away. You're basically just shivving someone as fast as you can...from across the room. The chances of tagging something important just keep going up the longer you keep shooting.
Way more damaging than one pelet
Well, Charles has shown .22 to be SUPER effective...against Charles.
Charles isn't human. He is MORE human than human.
Charles has a huge hit-box
Read that as Rob Zombie.
I have a feeling Charles takes the ballistics dummies home so he can keep talking to them.
Dammit all now that's gonna be in my head
So Charles is Roy Batty from Blade Runner?
I believe it.
Since it’s penetration potential isn’t as great as other rounds it would be a good round to use in scenarios where you have to worry about people behind the target such as apartments, high traffic areas, and condensed living areas.
Or just use 9mm or 45acp with hollows. Don't have to worry Abt over penetration, and it'll actually be an effective self defense tool
@@SafeAtSpeedhow about you personally take a .22 round to the head and then tell us all afterwards how effective you think it is. I’d be willing to donate one round for the cause.
@@SafeAtSpeed I disagree.
@@SafeAtSpeedyou just dont want to use a “weak round” this video proves why .22 is fine and damn near better then others for self defense
@@ClipzSanEspecially for home defense or just defense in general. I am a father of 2, a 2 yr old and a 3 mo old. I would hate to use something other than a .22 with a can in a self defense situation when they're around.
That eerie music makes this more serious and really drives home how lethal this lil gun can be
At 12:18 it's the same melody as the theme of 28 days later
@@maxfern5701 I think it's not the same but thanks for that hint.
@@tomasbarta3020 It's the same note progression.
Would be cool to try unique types of .22 like the cci segmenting hollows, copper-22 , stingers, cheap box , federal punch, and more
I think this vid kind of says that you should be sticking with fmjs since the penetration is the problem here.
@@CtrlAltRetreat he only used sub sonic , coppers are moving at 1850fps , that may fit the penetration issue
@@kevinmarshall239 pretty much every 22lr is subsonic in a pistol
Viper round?
Seeing the results here and also similar results from many other videos like this one it shows the type of .22lr ammo used in a pistol is an insignificant difference in performance. In a rifle yes sure there may be some notable differences but in a pistol they’re all moving at virtually the same velocity so it doesn’t really matter
I think we ALL missed Charlie from the show. Glad to have him back in this one. Just makes it so much better
Big big 10-4 on that.. 💯%
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Anything that can penetrate your vitals will make you have a bad time. The fact that a 22LR from a pistol barrel can kill you with proper shot placement, really speaks volumes about firearms in general. Also speaks volumes about the importance of shot placement.
There's a reason the .22 was the most used caliber in the cold war. Very quite and affective round close range and very affective subsonic and suppressed for masking the noise. It was used a lot to execute enemy spies and they could comfortably rely on the fact that the round wouldn't exit the body and go somewhere it wasn't supposed to. It's also a go to for most mobile butchers in agriculture. Mainly for the same reason as it's a safe round to be used in enclosed spaces and around other things your don't want damaged.
Also one of the highest causes of failed assasssinations
the failure of these actions depends on many factors....I don't agree@@aenimate9903
But it wasn't the most used caliber in the cold war.
Because they were sloppy assassins. Just because people suck at using guns doesn't mean it's the guns fault. Plenty of veterans survive calibers from 5.56 to 7.62. That doesn't mean they are useless. Yes the rate of survival is less but there are pros and cons to every gun. You sacrifice size, weight, dexterity, noise, and recoil for damage and range. For an assassin you want the opposite to attract less attention and not have unnecessary casualities. A smart person would know the strengths and weaknesses of their gun and take advantage of it. If it does less damage and make sure you put an extra shot or two in to make sure they're dead. And this video proved you can easily make sure they're dead. @@aenimate9903
"affective" holy fuck lmao
Let’s be honest, we’re all here for Charlie’s spot on wit and humor 😂
Facts!
Not me. Charlie is one of those examples where less is more.
Not really, I actually hate it.
Honestly, it takes everything I have not to skip to their next video after the SDI portion of their video. They have to be happy with their sponsorship.
"Is a 22 deadly?"
Well I've never heard of the guy who got shot by a 22 and then said "Yes please do that again"
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Charlie always has me in tears. He's become no joke my favorite part of these videos
Does my dad love me dude….He cracks me up 😅😂
Let's make a video 😂
His look when GT was trying to sell us on the 22 in an end of the world situation haha... He had to drop his head and cover up with his shirt trying to hide his true feelings haha
This episode had me belly laughing.
Charlie's illustrious status as your favorite part of those videos speaks volumes about your dedication to embracing the pinnacle of tastelessness dull dad joke humor.
When all the dust settles from the debate on whether a .22lr is enough power for self defense, I’ve never seen anyone willing to go down range and be shot by one.
Self defense requires the stopping of the threat as fast as possible. A single shot to the chest with a .22 might not be felt by your average meth head regardless of if he dies an hour later long after he robbed + shot you. That's one argument for hollowpoints because the larger and harder hitting round stops attackers.
You get shot by a .22 in your chest, you got a 90% chance to not die instantly. Get shot in the chest by a hollowpoint .40cal, you got a 90% chance to die instantly.
@@corvidconfidential8826stats gave that the aggression stopped after 1 shot in 1 third of the cases with a .22, like 32% of the cases if I remember correctly, for the 9mm, it was better, the aggression stopped after 1 shot only in like 36% of the cases, so... One third too, same with .45 !
It is not like in movies, methhead that tank a full mag aren't that common, but they do exist, and sadly even a 9mm will not save you from these rare encounter ! There are police footages where you can see it
@@corvidconfidential8826If full autos were legal I’m pretty sure a Ruger 10/22 with a fun switch and a 25rd mag would be very effective. You might not feel a single .22 instantly but you would definitely and quickly feel being pumped with .22 at 2000 rpm.
@@pH_Dav M&P15-22 with Echo trigger has entered the chat
Ian Malcolm voice: "...Well...there it is."
Garand: I think the .22 is a very effective caliber, what do you think Charles?
Charles: *smells rake handle and smiles*
Its GoNNA BouNCE ArOUnd
The Fuddlore
I too watched the video.
@nine108 don't you dare call Steve Martin a fudd
Fuddisms 😂
Careful with them 22s sonny. They'll go a mile.
The ease of a follow up shot really bumps up the effectiveness of these smaller calibers. You can really tap the trigger without much control and have a pretty decent grouping, especially up close. That + the often higher caliber and concealability makes for a very deadly platform.
I'm with you. I don't use a . 22 as my daily. But they have their place, and everybody should have a few.
yeah i feel like this is a massive plus for 22lr
there's minimal recoil and massive magazine capacity so you can quickly dump multiple rounds into a really small area that _will_ ruin someones day
Also ammo is never in short supply. You also could probably carry a whole case of it in a leg pocket or a belt pouch for functionally infinite reloads XD
I feel its not powerful enough though 9mm is perfect
Also a low chance of collateral damage
The vast majority of us know what to expect here, but I bet the vast majority of us also clicked the notification quickly too, cause we know it’s always entertaining, and occasionally a little bit informative from time to time.
I certainly didn't expect the suppressor to perform like the "Hollywood Silencer". Seems like a good option if you are using it to do bad things.
@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 You can't hear the actual volume in a recorded video.
Subsonic .22LR suppressed is hearing safe, but it isn't whisper quiet by any means.
@@pewpewTN on a pistol, it’s very very quiet, on a bolt action rifle though, it’s absolutely Hollywood quiet. Ask me how I know.
Okay guys…..right out the gate you had me laughing! Great vid and presentation, the humor is excellent!!! Think I’m going to subscribe!
Living in the county as a kid. I didn't think that I would ever need anything other than a 22 lr. We dispatched 1,000 lb steers with it. Hunted all kinds of small and medium game. In all my years of it. There was only two times the 22 didn't just drop whatever it was in its tracks.
imma guess 1 was a riccochet off of a raccoon's skull. the other idk.
Where did you shoot them the head and vital organs anywhere else won't do shit get a 45 acp for a pistol dude
Seems that everyone what's to know the ones that didn't work. The first was a bull. You visualize a X between the eyes and the horns. The aim for the center of the X. That's normally a thin spot in the skull. This time it didn't work (it was not me shooting it was my uncle). So it didn't even phase the bull. So the 357 finished him off. The other was a large pig (also someone else). All the rest have been one shot for over 60 years. We people who grew up in the country may not sit at benches and shoot one inch groups. But when it comes to hunting and butchering we can get the job done.
Yeah we have these Cooey .22 repeaters up here in Canada and there are stories of guys shooting moose with them. Not something I'd try myself but definitely doable.
@@markanderson9857 hell yeah brother
So the underrated thing about 22 is it doesn't usually exit the body and often fragments into shards as you showed, If someone is shot with it and doesn't immediately die, those shards can travel along the arteries and veins and continue to cause damage far away from the initial impact site. And all the bleeding will be internal, along with any bone chips that are carried with the slug. And those bone chips are the worst. They will be sharper than any knife, and more capable of dealing damage and spreading infection as a result. Getting shot with a 22 and dying immediately is a hitman kill. Getting shot with 22 and surviving, only to bleed out internally, is FAR worse.
100% 👍
I can’t imagine that pain 😬
Not a good way to go huh.I mean either way is deadly,but knowing that you are bleeding out.😮😮😮😮😮
That's all fine and dandy but I'm not worrying about the long term outcome of the threat I'm attempting to stop. I just need the threat to be stopped.
When doc shot ringo in the head and he was still walking. Yikes
Charlie is a national treasure he must be protected.
Yes, for example he needs placed in a "special" class if he ever was alowed to goto school.... 😂
Oh,you know Charlie is strapped. 😂
I think the biggest advantage of a 22lr handgun is the user is more likely to score a hit under extreme stress against a moving target.
When I was about 11 years old in The Boy Scouts, I took the rifle class. The instructor spent the whole first class telling us stories about people being killed by .22 and even showed us a deer skull they it managed to get through. Always respected it after that, no matter how many tests, there is always that chance one can sneak through.
I also took the rifle merit badge, it was very safety orientated with wooden single shot .22lr. Good badge for gun safety
Now they are made of copper instead of lead in many states I can image the penetration is better than it used to be
Still gotta love those subsonic lead rounds (They are quiet)
Most assassinations in Mexico was committed with a .22 cal airgun. The pellet isnt much bigger than a .22lr bullet and can have about the same fps as a firearm. .22 has done work.
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I was looking at those "BB" guns the other day
How many feet per second is it?
1500?
Damn we only had archery when I was in Boy Scouts.
In the early mob days a 22 was the preferred close assassination weapon for "two to the hat" at close range. The initial bone penetration was good and the exit was not which caused the shot to "bounce around" in the skull cavity causing irreparable lethal damage. And, as you point out, the report is quiet and typically less than ambient area noise sources, as good or even better than silencing devices.
with less powder 22. rimfires can get quiet
Less penetration means less cleanup too if the mob is looking to get rid of the body and evidence.
.22 does not bounce around inside of the skull.. It's a myth. It's been debunked numerous times.
This is a cliché myth that has echoed through the ages from a single uneducated mob dude hypothesizing why people shot in the head from close range with a .22 died consistently. He was hardly a doctor or a ballistics expert, and didn't do an autopsy on the dudes he killed lol. It had more to do with the fact that people shot in the head usually die no matter what (>90% of cases) and shots from most .22s at close range benefit from the pressure created by expelled gas from the barrel and a tiny entry wound.
Paul Harrell pretty much completely debunks the idea that the bullet bounces around inside the skull. That being said, he has also made it clear that .22s are deadly, and the idea that they're very quiet does make them suitable for assassination. Years ago I read a book by a purported Israeli assassin who recounted how he and a team killed a bunch of Palestinian terrorist organizers, in Europe. They used small caliber pistols with short barrels and no silencers, and just shot repeatedly. Only one of the Palestinians, if I remember right, survived.
Damn the 22LR is the only round that sounds kinda like what games say silencers sound like. Not as laser gun beep like but still very close. Truly the best stealth weapon.
"There might be certain opportunities presented where you might have to dispatch someone when they're not quite aware of your presence"The matter of fact way in which he says this is absolutely priceless!😅I rewatched that 30 times and was laughing so hard. Thank you for that OH God I love this channel. BOSTONUSA 🇺🇸
I think Charles needs some testing to see if he should be handling firearms... bless his mind.
he's more qualified than most politicians
@@Daves_Not_Here_Man_76 He's more qualified than most law enforcement
he just exaggerates his personality.
he does do hilarious shit, but its not like the character he portrays on this channel.
If I have a firearm anyone can have a firearm.
This is a lot more damaging than I originally anticipated. Def. a viable survival option. Psychologically, a gun in your face is a gun in your face. No one on the planet is going to be like "that's only a .22, I could probably survive that". You could fire 3 shots in the time it take to fire and recover a 9 so there's that fact to consider as well.
It's all about bullet placement and will to survive. A large caliber could shatter your shin and you might be walking again within weeks, or shooting your toe off could cause you to bleed out. When I was a kid, I was way too immature to be carrying a gun, but there I was often in the woods with my .22 looking for moving targets, mostly squirrels, but anything really. One evening a small herd of deer passed by down the hill about 75 yards away. I aimed by rifle at the heart of the biggest one and pulled the trigger. The shot missed whizzing directly over it, but close enough to make the animal freeze and crouch slightly. I suddenly remembered reading a book where soldiers in the mountains had to aim low or "at the knees" if they were on higher ground, in order to hit the upper bodies of their enemies due to gravity being less effective the further downward one aims, and oppositely soldiers on far lower ground must aim high due to increased gravitational effect. I brought by sights down to the opening just below the animal's heart and squeezed again. This time the animal dropped and never got back up. The bullet entered straight into the heart and the beast quickly lost it's will to live.
If anyone has ever witnessed how strong a deer's will to live can be, you will know how devastating that small caliber bullet placement was to have so cleanly taken out that healthy 6 point buck.
That was the last animal I ever shot more than 30 years ago. I now try to protect them by buying land and preserving their habitat.
@@Rick-the-Swift Yeah. ceasing a vital bodily function tends to end your "will to live" pretty quickly
Hi Rick the Swift, I would like to do the same as you, buy land and protect habitat, I wish I had a mentor 😞 I don’t know where to start !
You sound like a glowing, @ godswittness69
I dunno man, some people are pretty damn stupid.
With the long time that the .36 caliber cap and ball revolvers were used i can't help but wonder how effective they really were.
With no effective medical treatment, they would have been very effective.
I have some C&B and i can tell you : Same as 9x19 and .45.
they werent power houses but they killed a lot
They were mostly used for stray rabid dog defense than anything and that's a got-dam fact.
@@johnqpublic2718 cap and ball revolvers seen extensive use in armed civil and military conflicts extensively in the 19th century
Knew someone that was killed shooting at a couch with .22 it bounced back and hit them in the leg and bled out thinking they would be okay. I’m glad the test went well for you guys because holy smokes it was scary how close yall were
There's a guy that survived that survived 2 shots to the face with a .22. It was over 2 days before he got medical attention. Ryan waller was his name. Just a crazy story.
I personally know a guy, Nick Flores who survived a 9mm that entered above his right eye and exited behind his left ear. It is amazing what humans can endure. He woke up from the robbery and closed his gun shop and drove home. He doesn't remember any of it. He was running on auto pilot.
There was also that one dude who survived a railroad spike shooting through his jaw, through his frontal lobe, and out the top of his skull, he survived but turned from a respectinle worker into a raging drunk but...he survived for a bit
@@jacksnexus2616phineas gage I think
I responded to a scene locally when I worked for the police department (animal control division). Guy got shot twice with a 22 pistol, one went through his mouth at the sides and the other tore a piece of his jaw out. He lived, but you'd swear from the literal ... piles of congealed blood, he should have been a dead man. I was there to collect a cat that had been left at the scene, and after trudging up three flights of literally bloody stairs, we find out that the victims niece had already come and got the cat. I had never been so glad that our boots had to be BioHaz rated grade 3 or higher.
@@jacksnexus2616Phineas Gage, damn that was a long ass rod too that got blasted
From what I’ve seen the main problem with .22LR is crappy ammo, you’ve really gotta go for the top of the line stuff to prevent jams and failure-to-fire
Exactly, any and all Winchester is a really bad idea. Failure rates for brands like Federal and CCI are much lower.
I had to put down a fox earlier this year, and I was at my father's house. I went there originally to free the fox from the trap, but he was messed up and covered in yellow jackets.
He wasn't in my father's yard, but in the neighbors yard. I called the neighbor and told him about it and everything.
Never killed an animal before, I wasn't sure which gun to use.
I went with a H&K Mp5 chambered in .22lr because it's not as loud.
I regretted choosing .22 so badly. I shot him directly in the head 8 or 9 times, and he still wasn't dead.
I had to run a half acre to grab a .38 and finish him, and I've never felt so guilty in my life.
I'd never shoot anyone or anything with a .22lr again.
@@drownthepoor.22 can struggle to put down small game occasionally but I’ve never seen something that didn’t die immediately with 1 or 2 head shots up close
Weird… I’ve killed 300lb hogs with .22 to the head.
I’ve shot about 450 rounds through my Ruger 10/22 with mini-mags. Not a single jam!
Of the literally hundreds of reviews from various firearms channels over the years, this one by far is my favorite. Subbing now.
I found my uncles very old .25 tiny little silver thing. Wanted to shoot it and the gun is so small with a pretty heavy trigger that practicing with that thing made me a much much better shooter. Seriously insane how much pull you could put on it with the trigger squeeze. Having to focus on it so much helped me a ton.
my heart goes out to all the ER doctors that have to deal with these kinds of gunshots...
It's apparently rather annoying because they often have to actually search for the bullet. It tends to get trapped between layers of skin and travel around the body. You could get hit in the face and they have to remove the round from your thigh so they often have to x-ray just to find it. (Per what was told to me by an ER doctor)
Imagine the people who got the bullet in them
@@tarrantwolf as an xray tech i can tell you ive seen all kinds of gunshots and i can without a doubt say nobody has ever been shot in the face and the bullet wraps around to the thigh lol. the magic kennedy bullet was not real
@@johnnysothersack6829bro wtf
Not that I'm in a hurry to go to prison, but I want to test an LMT 40mm with a hornet's nest 16-round 22LR GP shot...just on ONE three-letter former bartender.
I HIGHLY doubt it would be a "final act" or anything, but I'd like to hear the ER doc's play-by-play fixing [them] up.
Ammunition isn't just cheap, it's light and small. I have always thought a .22 pistol would be the best weapon if I was in a survival situation that wasn't just daily bear fights.
Charlie is a national treasure and must be protected at all costs.
Fuckin' A
“Charlie is a national criminal, and we should be protected from him at all costs”
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for being a racist, right wing biggot? Nice logic.
@@RealMTBAddict never had a first before eh?
My dad had 4 .22 slugs in his hip until the day he died because the doctor said it was more dangerous to try and remove them than to just leave them alone.
Real good episode. Never seen such in-depth ballistic testing of .22. Thanks for the relevant information.
10:09 That’s hilarious because professional assassins all over the planet have sworn by a silenced .22 you could take somebody out in the same room as a witness and they might not even notice what happened.
Reckon we're all gonna be assassin's now because of this thread
When I was 18 I was walking at night in a bad neighborhood, long story short I was mugged and shot from a distance of around 3 yards. I quite literally walked home thinking someone had tried to rob me with a bb gun. Found out at the hospital later that a .22 had bounced along my collar bone and lodged about 3 inches from point of entry. Doctor pulled out the round with tweezer and I didn't believe it was an actual bullet until I saw it.
Was it a .22 pellet or .22lr?
Stupid people robbing you
could have been a short. those are pretty anemic
Yo Garand Thumb, This is why the first Pistol I bought with MY money was a 22 Mag. I had also read the book, "In Broad Daylight" about an entire town executing their 'Town-Bully', Ken McElroy on the 10Th of July, 1981 in MO. He was shot with a 12 Ga shotgun, a 30.06, AND a 22 Lr. At the autopsy it was proven that it was the 22 to the temple that killed McElroy. Thanks for the Post, ~Mark~
I think the thing the 22LR does well is dump absolutely all of its energy into the target. When you have a projectile ending up just under the surface on the downrange side of the target, that means that every single newton of kinetic energy that bullet had has been spent into the target with none left over. Any kind of overpenetration means that some of that energy was left in the bullet.
That's true, but I think it misses something. A 29 grain .22 bullet out of a 4 inch barrel going about 948 feet per second will have (rounded to the nearest whole number) 58 energy foot pounds. Whereas a 115 grain 9mm bullet out of a 4 inch barrel going about 1094 feet per second has (rounded) 306 energy foot pounds. In other words, a 9mm round out of a comparable barrel length has five and a quarter times more impact energy than a .22 round. If the 9mm transferred half of its energy into the target, it would still be more than two and a half times more energy than a .22 that came to a full stop in the target.
The fackler school suggests that 9mm is about 4x as effective as .22LR as it expands to 4x larger frontal area than .22LR hollowpoints (.66-inch vs .33-inch) but the project SALVO studies say you get diminishing returns making a bigger hole as if you hit the heart with anything it's KIA, and a bigger hole in the lung will result in the same effect of the lung collapsing. Project SALVO concludes it's better to have more smaller projectiles as the more projectiles the greater chance of both lungs being hit or at least one bullet hitting the heart.
Kinetic energy is a good relative guide but it is hard to relate it to reality, to what actually has a specific effect.
@@TreblaineWhich is why I imagine the ideal is a 9mm with quite a few rounds and enough practice to fire those rounds quickly and accurately. If you're a big dude with giant man hands, then maybe a larger round still in a double stack pistol would be effective, but my little baby hands would not be able to get enough rounds on target quickly with anything over 9mm.
@@TheSpecialJ11 You could go even smaller than 9mm.
It's a balance of how much faster you can shoot with an even lighter recoiling round, the number of hits and accuracy of hits count way more.
The major limitation in self-defense shootings is getting the shots out quick enough without missing.
@@TheSpecialJ11 I can't over the image of your cute little pudgy fingers trying to somehow get wrapped around that big ole trigger😂
Actually, a buddy of mine who retired from the US Marshall's Office, said that the PREFERRED weapon of the MOB was the .22 revolver. It doesn't make a loud noise, and is incredibly effective at close range.
I've always thought it's the best caliber to have when you don't have time to put on hearing protection. (As is so common with self defense).
As a former member of organized crime the revolver is preferred because it doesn't eject the shells. There is also further ballistics stuff that doesn't happen with it. They can't match the slug to it. I liked it because it was like a cowboy thing, man to man 10 paces not 9 not 9 and a half. Man to man. I nearly risked my life to save a woman and her baby from a truck yesterday, I didn't have time to think I was just ready to get them out of the way. That's how everyone was, I'm sure any of those guys would have done the same. So not news worthy info.
@@jhowardsupporter”As a former member of organized crime”🤓🤓
yeah the demeo crew were known for using only .22s for the gemini method
@@axelsjoberg7979 Yeah my best friends dad was a famous gangster in Australia. Now I'm into helping the environment. The government is still the main enemy. Who would have thought the same ones against the sale of narcotics would be the same ones allowing the burning of fossil fuels!