I crashed my Motorcycle 5 years ago. Got stabbed in my lung a little by a rib when I tried to pick up my bike. It's like taking a tabbaco bong rip and drowning in your saliva.
@@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661 I assume you're being sarcastic but, why dont cops carry 45 ACP? They carry 9mm because its faster and more common, more accurate at range. .45s have more bullet drop and are substantially slower to reach the target, the knockdown power is all they got going for them. Everyone thinks a 45 is so badass, and it actually is in a self defence situation, but if you do some long range plinking with one you can literally hear the shot fire then hear it hit the target afterwards. Thats alot of weight moving down range.
When I was growing up, using nothing more than a 10/22 with iron sights, I could easily hit a can of bush’s baked beans, the one with the bacon in it, and a hint of brown sugar, with its signature blend of 10 spices coming together in perfect harmony to compliment the smooth but firm feeling of all American beans in a mixture that will leave your mouth saying, “WOW”. Anyways, where was I going with this?
Love the comical ad lib and also love the illustration, apparently I now know that there is a difference between stopping power and lethal, because on most gun channels you will hear them say that the 22 has little to no stopping power but clearly you have shown that it's Lethal, exceptional content here.
That`s the answer I would expect to hear Though back in the day it was 1 mile and I know the ammo isn`t any hotter now. .22 WHMR used to be rated at 1.5 mile but now it`s 2 mile
@@come1atmebro Maybe its changed, or maybe my instructor lied; but my class was told that question is on every version of the non-restricted exam and it was on mine.
Thank you for making this video. It resolved my internet frustration when some terminally online person tried telling me the 22 is useless on anything bigger than a squirrel.
@@elferson Oh I would never think that! The discussion was about a 22 being used by an assassin and a lot of people talking shit, when it is the #1 choice of assassins. They were arguing that the other person was making stuff up because why would an assassin pick the weakest bullet known to man, which I explained that A its not, and B it is still deadly much further than most would ever expect it to be. A lot of places say 22lr is only "effective" to 100-150m and I would like to suggest that rimfire PRS being out to 400m would disagree with that.
I was like oh poor guy seems a little awkward having the camera thrust on him like that, and then he hit us with the most fire joke of the whole video.
The army estimates 136 joules to be lethal. A standard 22LR hits with 138. So depending on which way a butterfly in Brazil is flapping its junk, your round may or may not be lethal.
@@drelipe340 I mean technically a knife is less than 18J, and that can kill you with a good shot. But I think the idea here is kinetic energy being the killer vs putting a hole in something. Obviously penetration matters and if you put a hole somewhere critical, it can kill them. But even without a critical hole, 136J can create enough overpressure inside you to cause massive collateral damage, whereas 18J probably can't. You're talking about something half the size of a 22LR moving at the velocity of a 45ACP. Put it straight through someone's heart or aorta, and I have no doubt it will kill them. Like they said, put enough qualifiers on anything 😁 Edit: sorry, half the velocity of a 45. So way worse than I thought. My exact numbers were 24gr and 500fps, but apparently a standard 45ACP is around 830fps (and wayyyy bigger). And even they get questioned for their "stopping power" vs mag size 😉
Even air rifles are dangerous. Doubt you could kill someone with one unless you hit an artery or organ, but you can most certainly put holes in them at very close range as I've seen it happen.
@@swaggadash9017 absolutely, gotta be careful with anything that shoots a projectile. At least one guntuber has featured 50cal air rifles that probably have at least the penetration if not the energy of a rifle round.
I'm a 60 year old woman, in my teens I used an antique .22 single shot rifle to hunt grouse...had to shoot the heads off, so as not to ruin what little amount of meat they had on them. I used a 30-30 Marlin lever action for the deer hunting. My dad's antique rifle had peep sights, but mine rifle had open sights. I was a very good shot, sometimes I would miss, but usually I hit the bird in the head first shot, which is difficult because those birds are constantly moving their heads about, bopping them up and down and to the left and right. We use to just skin them, rather than defeather them. I would marinate the meat in a brown sugar, apple cider mix, then put it in the smoker for a few hours, using apple wood, or sometimes alder wood, then brush on a little bit of honey and butter mix, wrap in foil and bake the meat. : ) When I turned 18 and moved out of the house and into my own home/adult life.... my dad gifted me with a .22 revolver for my protection. I still have it. I've had people, (mostly men) tell me I needed a more powerful weapon to kill an intruder if one ever broke into my home. Too many people underestimate what a .22 can do...and the one thing I do like about a .22 pistol/revolver is that once fired...and it hits the target, it has less chance than a high powered slug of going through the person. And even if it does, it's lost a lot of energy and the bullet probably isn't going to keep traveling through several walls and end up hurting someone in other rooms, another apartment, or even outside of the building/home.
When I was growing up in rural Indiana, we had a burn barrel at the back of our 1 acre property. Behind us was a corn field. I’m guessing two-three hundred yards until it butted up against a line of trees. Then a small river and then just on the other side of the river, a very hole-in-wall general/convenience store. My brother and I had .22LR rifles our dad bought for us (I still have the bolt action one) and we would regularly go out back and shoot holes in the burn barrel and put up targets like pop cans to shoot at. One summer we were out riding our bikes and stopped in the store to get a soda. Mind you our house was not even visible from the store. They were talking about the fact that someone had shot holes in the back of the store. 🥴 We looked at each other and never knew if we were the ones who had shot them. It seemed far-fetched but plausible. Thank God no one got shot or died.
🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️😆👍🏻 this is too accurate for what brothers get up to when we're younger (innocently might I add!). Only to find out the next day what you were doing simply as harmless play, had some catastrophic consequences upstream somewhere and it even made the papers. You and your brother just give one another the silent "uh oh 👀" look and pray no one got hurt 😬😬🤐🤐🙏🏻🙏🏻. That, and you didn't want the absolute ass whooping dad would bring. 😆
@@discipleaj agreed! I remember growing up and doing the same thing shooting coke cans I had set up in the woods like I was a sniper. Prob only 200 yards from where I was shooting and not thinking about it really going that far through the woods, put a couple through my great-grandmother’s mailbox! I figured with the elevation difference and being on the woods, nothing would make it out. My dads belt made it out however!
@@justaaron2558 I think we all did!😂😂 that and the Marlin semi auto piece of shit or the pump action 22 that stored the rounds in the tube under the barrel!
About 40 years ago when my dad was a teenager, he had a stray .22 bullet come across the lake and stick into his back. His friend pulled it out and he never told his mom.
@@jdnoble1000All bullets have range and once it loses velocity it's basically a bb. Definitely believable, not sure why you find it hard to comprehend..."Lmfao"
Unless someone was wearing body Armor I wouldn't hesitate to use a .22 long rifle for defense. For one they are highly accurate. And two, a .22 round is more lethal than most people think. A round that small has better chance ricocheting off bones and changing course in the body.. that doesn't happen everytime but it definitely happens
But .22's are definitely loud enough to give away your position usually unless its suppressed.. tho that last one he was shooting seemed as quiet as a pellet gun lol
my brother in christ what the fuck do you think 5.56 is.... its a slightly oversized .22 with a fuck load of more powder... the u.s. government sends men to war with varmint rifles... and sometimes the good idea fairy also makes the u.s government send experimental rounds with said varmint rifles like titanium coated 5.56. which is fucking retarded.
@@e.k.izzle32 My favorite part about is that if you have a semi auto and you can hit a target once, you can probably hit with at least 3 or 4 follow up shots because the recoil is so light. The round has survived 100+ years for good reason.
When I was 9 someone shot a .22 from a backyard a couple over. It went right past my head. It sounded like a loud mosquito. I will never forget that sound.
@@Kesssuli that is my assumption. When the bullet is in the transonic phase it will lose stability. Some calibers/bullet shapes do better than others however.
It's all about truing the BC correctly. And the SD of velocity. As long as you've got a good curve the wind becomes the primary variable. 400 is more then doable 500 is a bit more inconsistent but still not bad at all. Most rimfire match ammo is subsonic and doesn't have issues with the transonic shift. That happens at under 100yards with supers...
@@HS-qt3jr so. I have a savage B22 with a vortex diamondback 4-16x44 standar velocity cci. And with it I get very consistent hits at 300 yds, around 380 I can hit 70% of the time (with a bit of wind ~6mph on the day I went) and when I went to 425 it took 28 shots to get 1 hit. And the bullets were landing on a 10' circle all around the target. So it was all luck at that point. Edit: even with a 20moa rail I was out of reticle and elevation to use.
Hello dr thumb, I’m sure you are aware of the special made hard-cast, penetrator rounds that people carry in their sidearm as protection when hunting in grizzly territory. I know they are made in 10mm and 9mm at least. It would be awesome to see a video analyzing how effect these are compared to standard FMJ! I’ve been told that 10mm is the ultimate grizzly stopping caliber for semi-auto handguns. Thanks for the awesome videos!
Underwood Xtreme Penetrator rounds are decent large animal protection even in 9mm. Of course shot placement is key, but this round has changed the situation about 9mm not being enough against bear.
The majority of 10mm is loaded much below spec these days unfortunately. Some brands like Buffalo Bore & Underwood still load them hot like they should be.
Years ago, my friend caught what appeared to be a 30 caliber round that twisted into the knit fabric of the stocking cap he was wearing. He did not hear the rifle shot that it came from. What scared him was he was alone, and thought someone smacked him in the back of the hear very hard. Really spooked him, since he was by himself. Took a minute to discover the bullet. This is a no shit story, he still has the cap, with the bullet stuck in the fabric.
The fact that my thumb jammed in my Garand 2 days ago, which my father always warned me of, Garand Thumb...I joined because of your name and tour cool content.
I've always wondered what the story with the "Dangerous up to 1-mile" label that's on every .22LR box, meanwhile absolutely no other cartridge or shotgun shell box has a similar warning (Some have ballistic charts, but no like a "Dangerous up to 5-miles")
That is because it has been a really common round for about 150 years and also commonly used by children, so way back yonder times some would think it is such a small bullet they could just shoot it up at birds and squirrels and such which, even in trees, often have nothing but air as a backstop, because what could it hurt? As it turns out the answer is 'Everything' and so some started putting a warning on boxes that it is still lethal and still dangerous and you still have to be careful. Only the very rare idiot would launch a 6.5 Creedmoor up at a squirrel, so there has not been a call to remind people on the box.
Very perplexing indeed. Shotguns are deadly out to a couple hundred yards with buckshot (low chance that any pellets even connect past that) and longer with a slug if you can make it that far. Any larger rifle calibers are gonna be deadly to pretty much any range due to projectile shape and size, if you can get them out to whatever range that is. If money weren't an issue, I'd love to set up a 30-mile long strip of land with markers every 100yds and just arc the hell out of some big calibers and see where they end up. Since that's not possible for me, maybe I'll try to do the math/physics on maximum flight distance if I get really bored one day lmao
@@alexithymia6288 most rounds that are military issue or similar have been tested fully, so you can check those reports. Modern rounds sometimes have but it is more difficult to find the info since it is usually a private company doing it instead of a government agency that is required to publish results eventually
Probably because it is easy to believe that .22 is too weak - even Garand Thumb thought so in the video above. The sound, recoil, and lag time from shot to contact makes it very easy to underestimate the potential lethality of the .22.
@@ShellShock11C Outdoor range day up in the mountains (I'm from Colorado), bad trigger discipline, teenagers. I was standing to his right, and when he turned to remark to my uncle that he'd hit bullseye, he flagged and popped me. Thankfully, the 2 adults in attendance were a veteran (my dad) and a practical guy with first aid certification (my uncle.) It hit the outermost bone in that foot. I wore a boot for a month while the bone set, pinky toe still doesn't bend all the way... but at least he flagged my foot and not my torso.
Had a friend growing up who was shot with a .22 round at unknown distance which struck him in the stomach. He thought he heard a report from far away after being struck. He walked a mile back to his truck. His father was there and drove him at top speed to the hospital where his life was spared. From that day on his nickname became Wolfman because it would take more than a lead bullet to kill him. He was always teased about having two belly buttons.. A true lesson to always have a trauma kit with you especially during hunting season. Thank God his father was there that day!
I took a report about 30 years ago. A little girl was sitting on a fence when a .22 hit her leg. Pushed her Levis into her leg, but it didn't puncture the Levis. No shot heard. From a variety of things I came up with the most plausible scenario being someone was probably throwing something in the air and shooting at it. The bullet went up and traveled several hundred yards and came down on the little girl's leg. Just enough velocity to do some damage but not enough to penetrate the denim.
That's likely what a 1 mile shot with .22 looks like. It was likely carrying about 5 to 7 ft/lbs of energy, which I happen to know won't break through heavier clothing like jeans but can certainly cause injury.
My grandfather had a story that he was out in the woods when he was younger and felt like he got stung on his shoulder, on his back where he couldn't reach. The spot got more sore and swollen over a few days. Went to doctor, and he popped it like a pimple. Out came a .22 bullet.
There was a study done where they collected data from hundreds of trauma surgeons, and the conclusion was that caliber is largely irrelevant. It is shot placement that kills. Train with your weapon and it will be effective.
@@thegamingbean953 and getting hit with an RPG7 or a warhead from a Trident missile is worse than a .22 also. You’re missing the point. Those weapon systems aren’t even comparable to small arms.
Out in the sticks in the early 80s, as a 12 yr old, my friends and I could buy boxes of 50 .22LR bullets for $2 each at a general store. On the end flap it would say: Range 1.5 miles.
@@thebeastmaster3453 Obviously it would be stupid, but why else would a .22 lr round fly over a mile away? It would be because someone did something stupid.
Yeah, people put way too much importance into these stupid numbers. A 22 bullet is not necessarily less dangerous than a 45 or a 50 bullet, just like it probably doesn't mean it's more deadly than 12 or 9. And what those numbers are meaning anyway? Is it the amount of powder inside the bullet or something? I don't think it's really important anyway...
@@Reth_Hard It is pretty significant. .22 represents the diameter of the bullet in millimeters. a larger bullet is (generally speaking) going to create a larger hole. ofc there are other confounding variables like amount of powder and the length of the barrel of the gun. but size definitely does matter.
Just to be clear, a collapsed lung will eventually put enough pressure on the other lung to kill you by asphyxiation. That’s if the air doesn’t also travel over to the other side of your chest and collapse the other lung.
I'm not the biggest gun nerd but the transformation this channel has had in terms of it's production quality/choices is really inspiring. You guys are doing something truly unique in this space.
@@GarandThumb I remember back when I was about 12-13 or so and during my hunter education course for 4H the Conservation Officer had a pretty crazy story about a guy on a riding lawn mower found dead. He had a bullet wound from a .22 that was shot almost a mile away by some kids hunting squirrels in the woods, they were shooting into the tree tops and a round had missed and the dude just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time when the bullet came back down. Now I don't know if this was "urban legend" used to scare kids about the danger of firearms or a true story but it seems plausible none the less.
@@RealMTBAddict yes it is, but however, it has still gone up significantly as compared to what it was. 500 rounds at under $10 is now almost $30. I was just merely saying that all ammo is going up and not as cheap as it used to be. All good
My great uncle died from a 22 bullet that was shot from over a mile away. Some idiot shooting 22s into the air put one right through his heart. He was 17.
@@ShellShock11C yup. He was a a kid. My great great grandparents never wanted to press charges for it and just wanted the kid to do his best in life and learn from it. I think they kept in contact for a few years too.
bro the chances of a shot going over a mile and hitting someone in the heart is like 1 in millions and one of those freak accidents that almost sound surreal
@@djsubliminalreeve In Finland it similiar happened. If i remember it was bit before 2000. Man took a shot to bird in tree and missed. After miss he started walk back to his camp to find out his own brother lying on groud near campfire. Shot trough a heart. It was corfirmed by police investigation that that shot he missed from 3 kilometers away hit his brother and killed him a spot. Also rare case where no charges were applied because someone already had it rough enough.
@@djsubliminalreeve It has happened several times in California. People shooting guns into the air and then hits someone somewhere across the city. It's very confusing for forensics but they basically assume because the entrance wound was at such a high angle and there wasn't anything tall enough for the shooter to stand on, it had to have been a distant shot.
The 1-2 mile warning on the box isn't just random CYA. There have been fatal hits with 22lr at 1+mile (random bad luck in these cases) where it hit someone and went through the skin and had a jolly good time on their insides. Turns out it takes very little energy to penetrate human skin. Muscle does a fairly good job of slowing things down though. The more muscle you have the more energy will bleed off. Still, yeah. The hits won't make you DRT but 22lr can cause serious injury at great distance.
@@imeprezime1285 There was a local in my area who was shot by a .22lr at what the news said was “over 2 miles” But looking at it on google maps, and measuring the distance between the recorded points (a gravel pit used as a firing range, to a trail) it was 1.3 miles. It hit him in the neck, almost clean through. He died on the way to the hospital from massive blood loss. An EMT I know told me the details they learned later, confirming it was a .22lr. However that’s like a 1 in a bajillion chance of that happening. And the person who fired the shot was never identified.
@@tricksterjoy9740 Maybe they thought 1.2 miles. That might be possible during summer time and some tail wind assistance I guess. However, deep wound you describe is quite improbable. 22 LR is very wimpy at max distance it can travel to
@@imeprezime1285 oh definitely, the odds of something like that happening are extraordinarily low. And my best guess is the ammo had to be something more potent then standard lead round nose. Maybe even a significantly hotter then it’s supposed to be round. As that’s not entirely uncommon with some brands. (Having inconsistent powder loads) Something like that is almost in the legal category of “acts of god” like weather and tsunamis type of things.
Always loved the 22LR. Truth is hit a target enough it can die. Best part about the 22 is the fact that there is basically zero recoil. So as long the barrel stays cooled you're probably able to get more shots out of it before it malfunctions. It depends on the rounds more than the gun. I love these.
@@spectralknight7142 no doubt. However how fast can you recover from firing off a 50 cal shot. What if you miss. Can you get on target quick enough. How long can you carry the 50 bmg. Can you shot from a standing position. There are plenty of factors with every gun. I like every weapon, be that gun or melee. I just see a problem lugging around a larger gun than I do a smaller one. However if I can have both the 50bmg and this I surely would. However for many people price is a factor that will make the choice for us. Also I prefer a faster set up. Yet as a tennessean i love the 50 cal.
I love the 22 for the same reason. Not to mention they are very underestimated for personal defense. I'd take a .22 pistol with an 18-24 round magazine over a 9mm with just 8-12. But I prefer the rifles, mainly the bolt-action. I'm not sure why but I always shoot best with a bolt-action rifle.
@@MildarValsik ...and you can put 100 rounds of 22LR in your pocket, but for a 50 bmg you need a small backpack or sling. But then again you'll struggle to shoot through a car door with a 22LR while the 50 bmg can shoot through the whole engine block. Choose the right tool for the job.
@@Sindrijo that is a clear reason that the 50 BMG was created for. Key word is right tool for the job. People are arguing about this and that. Yet never thought about which job I'm talking about for the 22LR. There is something to be said about stopping power, penetration, and effectiveness. Is the 22LR a tool of war... hell no.. Is it going to work for any civilian defensive reason. Probably not the most effective. However it can give more practice time in to be able to put a penny on the floor in one shot without breaking the bank. That's my point of it's effectiveness. Some 22LR systems can be the one thing to put on target and disable a threat with the least danger to anything behind it. I call this a "Soft target round". It's made to do the job of hitting and stoping soft targets or take out soft spots.
I always wondered why people say the 22 isn’t deadly. Sure, it won’t immediately delete someone but the pain/shock of having a round in you will likely put you on the ground, making you an easy target to finish off
A 22 heads shot is an instant death. Even if you somehow would survive you'd be unconscious with bits of bone in your brain. Also it depends where it hits. For the most part there have been tons of time where people that got shot had so much adrenaline they did even know they got hit, if it his a bone or something vital you'll different realize you got shot.
Unless we are talking about a guy with thick muscles, guy in delirium state, or guy high in drugs. A shotgun slug maybe good, but better emptying the whole mag of 22LR while running away.
@@jerichojaramillo449 crazily enough I know someone who got shot point blank w a 22 in the face and was lucky enough to not have it hit anything vital and survived
so the reason people say 22 isn't deadly is the ballistic shock of the round, I.E. the cavitation of air at impact and through the travel of the body that shreads soft tissue, a 22 is so small that unless you get a dead on vital point shot that if you're anywhere near a modern hospital your chances of survival are through the roof. normal rule of thumb that brain, brainstem, or heart is deadly with anything going through it. a 7.62 round can MISS the heart but the cavitation's of the bullet traveling through you can and will still shread your heart and lungs beyond repair or surviving if its within say 3-4 inches of your vital organs. so basically, the difference of direct heartshot or brain shot, vs, neck and above, or anywhere within 4 inches of the heart, or your liver, and it'll take ribs through those compared to a 22 which unless coming at a 90* angle will probably ricochet off into your body elsewhere.
As someone who has vested interest in the public appearance of the company that they work at I agree that SDI probably love it. It makes SDI easily remembered and makes it look like a leading member of the community likes them.
What I am most impressed with isnt the lethality of the 22LR. It is the off hand open sight pinpoint accuracy you have shooting 22LR OFFHAND. Hitting sternum and throat shots. Must have had 0 wind
Ever hear a 22 crack after passing thru a target? Sounds super scary, small target practice, using cci stinger, and segments hp mini mag, every shot that goes thru the tree will sound like a loud crack, also heard it ricochet after messing around shooting small target, heard the ricochet up towards a hill and impact, yeah never underestimate a 22
Sadly, when I was in college in the 70’s, we had a kid killed while watching a lacrosse match. The shot came from a middle school kid, almost a half a mile away, shooting birds out of his bedroom window. I am sure that it a was parabolic flight path…..but fatal nonetheless.
When I was in high school a kid and two of his brothers were rabbit hunting with .22s when his brother was shot in the chest and died. The youngest brother who I was friends with (who pulled the trigger) said the bullet ricocheted off a rock on the ground then hit another rock then reflected off a tree then hit his brother in the lung. It was investigated and his story checked out
I can believe it. Lifelong shooter myself, I've had 2 experiences of "near misses" from OTHER people using 22's. I heard a neighbour (rural area) blazing away with a semi automatic, thought I'd wander down the hill and take a squiz. Faster than I could react, like a stone skipping across water but 10x faster, I saw the puffs of dirt screaming uphill towards me as a bullet missed my legs by a couple of yards at most. I drove round to abuse the person responsible, and realised they were NOT doing anything I would have considered "really stupid" - just letting their kids shoot up a fencepost well inside their own boundary. Nowhere near my direction, but the bullet had ricocheted off the flat face of a wooden fencepost at a 90 degree angle, then "bounced" its way a good 400m - UPHILL - towards me. "Unexpected" is an understatement. The second close call was so unbelievable I won't mention it. But yeah, 22's can ricochet.
Mike seriously thank you for putting out information like this for us to use and help educate us for times like when a U.S. president candidate gets nearly shot by what we think a .22 and this really helps us make a great comparison.
Happy new year! Ngl, at this point Charlie's one-liners need their own carry license. ^^ Your balance between comedy and education is on top and imo second to none on yt.
As a serious science nerd and a shooter since I was 8 I love this channel! I also very much enjoy the humor. You guys make me laugh 10x more than Saturday Night Live’s recent episodes. Science doesn’t have to be dull.
Yeah at 100yds with a good suppressor you probably wouldn't hear enough of the sound to realize it was a gun firing. Ninja caliber for sure. Think it was on an episode of NCIS where the killer was a woman who seduced sailors and proceeded to kill them with a suppressed .22 pistol so that their bodies wouldn't be found for a few days as nobody around the area heard a gunshot.
A .22 requires good shot placement i would not want to use it for self-defense though not as a main gun as a backup sure or a toss in my glove box and forget till needed gun yep any day of the week For something to just pick up and plink um yeh no question at all 22 is one of the most fun guns you can have honestly The Israelis used .22s to lets just say get even after the Olympics attack in 72 10 round mag loaded with 8 to save on the spring ...
@@nanaki-seto .22 LRs are good offensive weapons, not good defensive weapons. If you need to survive long term, a suppressed 10/22 is a great choice. You can hunt with that and easily have enough ammo with you to last the rest of your life. And if you need to use it against a human in some kind of ambush where they don't see you coming you could do that too (but pretty stupid to be going around deliberately killing people in a SHTF situation anyway, people should be grouping up as there's strength in numbers, not being lone wolves). A .22 LR is practically the last thing you'd want to use in an actual gunfight. Unless you're a very good/lucky shot under stress, you're simply not going to be able to stop the fight quickly enough.
Just got accepted to SDI because of you, excited to start in March! Full in on the Associate Of Science In Firearms Technology Degree. I think it was subliminal, hearing it from every single video you put out, it's like etched into my brain lol.
Do you have to have prior experience with machine shop stuff or no? I can't really find out on their website and I don't want to sit and have a full on phone conversation with someone trying to get me to sign up just to find out something simple like that
@@ryanbrown4053 Nope. It helps to have things such as basic tools, a vise, clamps, etc. They will send you all of the materials you will need for the projects and such.
@@ryanbrown4053 I work at a manufacturing plant and I have my own wood shop and half of a metal shop, I'm still working on getting my forge. I'm an engineer by trade now though so having experience like that absolutely helps. None of that is required however, but to make the muzzleloader you will most certainly need to be at least decent working with wood and mechanically inclined, and to be a gunsmith or armorsmith you need some experience along with knowledge for sure. The internet cannot instill the skills required to be one but you can be an apprentice, entry level, or practice in your garage. Milling however, requires on the job experience unless you can afford a used Bridgeport or similar milling machine and a lathe. I believe anyone can do it though if you try hard enough. I'm strictly speaking post graduate of course. The only downside is that the average gunsmith salary is not very high, at all. I'm not doing it to become one for a living, I am doing it for my passion for firearms, fixing things, and fabrication. I would not recommend doing it for a living unless you open your own shop. They simply just don't make that much money, on average. I make FAR more as an automation engineer. That said, there's nothing wrong with not making a ton of money if you love what you do, but I plan on doing it on the side and for my own enjoyment. Not to say I wouldn't become one full time under the right circumstances but I am fortunate to have an amazing job, and frankly just plain lucky. I learned all my skills mostly on my own at home by just, making random crap with a cheap $100 welder, my tools that I have collected over the years, and just practice for fun. My job however vastly improved and honed my skills of course. I now fabricate all sorts of random things such as jigs, custom tooling for our robots, custom tables for robot picking and placing. It's all really just years of messing around and practice on anything I could get my hands on.
Charlie and his SDI flub-ups!! And Kenny...the diversity hire!!?? I'M DEAD!! HA HA HA HA!!!! The beginning of this episode KILLED!! Another great job guys!! Keep em coming and Happy 2023!!
Dear doctor, please help me, my hearings damaged. I didn't wear my ear plugs when I should. I liked to hear, the 20mm casings, ringing off the deck but now my hearing is fkd. Missed all the dialogue, please doc, bring back the captions
As a person who is just an observer from Perth, WESTERN AUSTRALIA I can conclude that this video has been extremely useful in understanding the .22 rifle.
Charlie was absolutely on fire this time out! I'm also glad to see that the rake (R.I.P., blue plastic rake) has been replaced with a tool I hope to see more of in future videos, though the wrench could be improved upon by swapping the basic sling out for a tactical sling. You never know when you'll need a giant wrench, so it's best to be prepared as much as possible. Also, definitely looking forward to more diversi...uh, Kenny-related content. He's doing magnificent work, especially with all the new equipment from the influx of PatreonBucks that needs to be set up. Hooray Kenny!
So I’m not sure how accurate this story is, but my boss was a police officer in a very small town in Missouri in the late 70’s and told me this story: he said that they were called to a plant nursery because a worked just collapsed randomly while tending to some plants. When they turned her over, she was bleeding from the base of the back of her head. They did an autopsy and found she was shot with a .22lr and they had no suspects or anything. They publish the story asking for the public to come forth with information and the only person to come forward was an elderly man who had been rabbit hunting over a mile away in the field that was adjacent to the nursery. He said he had missed a shot on a rabbit and had no idea where the round went. Apparently he had been shooting upwards at it, in the direction of the nursery. They had no other leads and came to the conclusion that he missed his shot and killed her from over a mile away. No charges were filed and it was closed as an accident. No idea if that’s possible or if that’s what happened, and my boss felt the same way, but that is the official cause of death in that case. Wonder if it actually was correct. I didn’t really think .22 would still be deadly past 400yds. Who knows, just figured the story was interesting and on topic.
@@gunfisher4661 yeah still not sure I believe it, but there’s definitely more merit to it than I first thought based on this video. I know it’s well beyond .22’s effective (accurate at the very least) range. That’s for sure.
you forgot to do the headshots. i wanted to see how viable a 22 sniper would in a theorethical zombie apocalypse. i've long held the opnion that a silenced 22 (either rifle or pistol) would be ideal for zombie survival due to ammo abundancy, ammo weight and ability to be really fucking quiet, only thing i am unsure about how good it is at popping heads wich is kinda important when dealing with the undead.
It's shit at popping heads. The only time a .22lr would ever "pop" a head is if you crammed a pound of tannerite into someone's mouth before shooting them. Even then, you'd probably just blow off their jaw and crack the skull to shit.
Well I've made headshots on camels with a 22lr at about 50 yards. If it can kill those boneheaded morons, zombies don't stand a chance. I think the biggest problem is the bullet is moving relatively slow, so it can bounce off more easily if it hits at an angle. For example, the only time I got penetration of skin on a camel was with a right angle impact. That said, 22 magnum gets much more penetration, with the downside of being supersonic.
As a firemedic, I’ve had more people commit suicide with a .22. Funny enough, the guy that tried to kill himself with a 12 gauge in the chest missed his heart removed a lobe of his lung and a armpit, he lived, then had another guy try with some sort of a .30 caliber rifle. He is still alive, even after losing most of his palate, cheek, jaw, and part of his skull. Unfortunately, his minor daughter was tasked with cleaning brain material from the ceiling.
When I was severely depressed years ago and contemplated suicide… that was always my worst fear… lol.. failing at killing yourself, and blowing half you face off.
I was shot at near point blank range from a 22 hollow point in the arm. The bullet hit dead center of the bone, and then shattered, parts of the bullet went all the way through, and I actually entered into the skin of my stomach. In the x-ray a half inch of my bone was disintegrated.
@@gansior4744 apparently there’s some old army doctrine that if a bullet will pass through a 1/2” pine board it could kill a person. Not super scientific lol
As someone who has had a collapsed lung I can confirm there are two of them.
thank you for the confirmation as I wasn't sure.
null, why was your lung collapsed ?
I crashed my Motorcycle 5 years ago. Got stabbed in my lung a little by a rib when I tried to pick up my bike. It's like taking a tabbaco bong rip and drowning in your saliva.
@@CoKanet-no2jt gangster
@@CoKanet-no2jt that's rough man, glad you can tell the story .
Nobody ever said “don’t worry, they’re only shooting at us with a .22”
👍 Best comment.
Also never met anyone who wanted to get hit by a 22.
People who know nothing about guns do.
"Oh its just a 22! We'll be fi
@@bowez9 That would be worse. The bone would fragment and shoot everywhere. like a mini frag grenade but bone and in your body
I correct, morons have said that. They then either die or smarten up
Alls I know is that no matter what caliber, no matter from how far away, I don't want it being fired at me
ditto
You'd almost think that's the point of the thing.
@@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661 frfr
@@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661 I assume you're being sarcastic but, why dont cops carry 45 ACP? They carry 9mm because its faster and more common, more accurate at range. .45s have more bullet drop and are substantially slower to reach the target, the knockdown power is all they got going for them. Everyone thinks a 45 is so badass, and it actually is in a self defence situation, but if you do some long range plinking with one you can literally hear the shot fire then hear it hit the target afterwards. Thats alot of weight moving down range.
@@squarebodyscottsdale4773 when the target moves faster than the .45ACP, I'll start believing in the 9mm.
When I was growing up, using nothing more than a 10/22 with iron sights, I could easily hit a can of bush’s baked beans, the one with the bacon in it, and a hint of brown sugar, with its signature blend of 10 spices coming together in perfect harmony to compliment the smooth but firm feeling of all American beans in a mixture that will leave your mouth saying, “WOW”. Anyways, where was I going with this?
to lube up
Joe you're president stop commenting on RUclips video's
Moe Griswald would approve this message!
Snavely Snook and Horace Nimquist too!!😊😊
Bush's found their new spokesman.
Well he showed you
I’m guessing I’m not the only one looking for the dude that said he could hit a can at 700 with irons
lol nope there's 2 of us! 😆 🤣 😂
Dude same
Same bro. LmAo. Your comment is what legends Are made of.
There’s no way
650m with a Iron Sight and a shitty .22 there is no way
You know, the complete lack of seriousness with SDI's name is what makes me remember it more than any other supporter of a channel.
it really does. Honestly they ought to give Charlie additional kickbacks just for the hilarious shit he says that makes me remember who they even are.
Their campus is only a mile from my house, and I can feel them giggle when Charlie fucks it up.
I was talking to my rapist about it just the other day.
Honestly, it does. It's about the only thing I remember from the first minute of most videos
Love the comical ad lib and also love the illustration, apparently I now know that there is a difference between stopping power and lethal, because on most gun channels you will hear them say that the 22 has little to no stopping power but clearly you have shown that it's Lethal, exceptional content here.
The question that every Canadian firearm owner had to answer to get their PAL:
To what range is .22 LR potentially lethal?
Answer: 1.1 miles
I'm sorry you live in a communist country.
That`s the answer I would expect to hear Though back in the day it was 1 mile and I know the ammo isn`t any hotter now. .22 WHMR used to be rated at 1.5 mile but now it`s 2 mile
It’s definitely potentially lethal to 1.1 and greater. But not accurate.
Canadian PAL holder restricted and non restricted. I didn’t get this question on a test or never discussed it either…..
@@come1atmebro Maybe its changed, or maybe my instructor lied; but my class was told that question is on every version of the non-restricted exam and it was on mine.
Thank you for making this video. It resolved my internet frustration when some terminally online person tried telling me the 22 is useless on anything bigger than a squirrel.
it still is for self defense tho. It can definitely kill but not enough to defend yourself in the moment
@@elferson Oh I would never think that! The discussion was about a 22 being used by an assassin and a lot of people talking shit, when it is the #1 choice of assassins. They were arguing that the other person was making stuff up because why would an assassin pick the weakest bullet known to man, which I explained that A its not, and B it is still deadly much further than most would ever expect it to be. A lot of places say 22lr is only "effective" to 100-150m and I would like to suggest that rimfire PRS being out to 400m would disagree with that.
@@elfersonthat’s why you binary it. Quantity over quality 😂
Plus the 22has killed more game any other round
I've watched caribou shot in the lungs with a .22 collaspe within 50 yards.
We thank you Dr.Thumb,for your scientific endeavors. Your research is priceless,and the results even more so.
*Dr. Thumb
@@jacklawson3769 He is a Dr In New Jersey after all
thank you, we’ll be publishing ournresearch to a paper soon
@@GarandThumb the art and war podcast is your new paper lmao
I like the new name Charlie thought of for SDI....he's such an amazing scientist.
“Hi I’m the diversity hire” fucking killed me! Had to replay fours times 🤣
2:02 Timestamp for those that want to revisit in the future
@@dnboii4404a true gigachad!
Lol that was funny as hell.
Laughed my ass off!!!!
I was like oh poor guy seems a little awkward having the camera thrust on him like that, and then he hit us with the most fire joke of the whole video.
The army estimates 136 joules to be lethal. A standard 22LR hits with 138. So depending on which way a butterfly in Brazil is flapping its junk, your round may or may not be lethal.
Much less than This …18J kills you easly….
@@drelipe340 I mean technically a knife is less than 18J, and that can kill you with a good shot. But I think the idea here is kinetic energy being the killer vs putting a hole in something. Obviously penetration matters and if you put a hole somewhere critical, it can kill them. But even without a critical hole, 136J can create enough overpressure inside you to cause massive collateral damage, whereas 18J probably can't. You're talking about something half the size of a 22LR moving at the velocity of a 45ACP. Put it straight through someone's heart or aorta, and I have no doubt it will kill them. Like they said, put enough qualifiers on anything 😁
Edit: sorry, half the velocity of a 45. So way worse than I thought. My exact numbers were 24gr and 500fps, but apparently a standard 45ACP is around 830fps (and wayyyy bigger). And even they get questioned for their "stopping power" vs mag size 😉
Even air rifles are dangerous. Doubt you could kill someone with one unless you hit an artery or organ, but you can most certainly put holes in them at very close range as I've seen it happen.
@@swaggadash9017 absolutely, gotta be careful with anything that shoots a projectile. At least one guntuber has featured 50cal air rifles that probably have at least the penetration if not the energy of a rifle round.
It seems the main difference is lethal
Or incapacitated. A 22 at distance may kill but more than likely it won’t be in a timely manner.
I'm a 60 year old woman, in my teens I used an antique .22 single shot rifle to hunt grouse...had to shoot the heads off, so as not to ruin what little amount of meat they had on them. I used a 30-30 Marlin lever action for the deer hunting. My dad's antique rifle had peep sights, but mine rifle had open sights.
I was a very good shot, sometimes I would miss, but usually I hit the bird in the head first shot, which is difficult because those birds are constantly moving their heads about, bopping them up and down and to the left and right. We use to just skin them, rather than defeather them. I would marinate the meat in a brown sugar, apple cider mix, then put it in the smoker for a few hours, using apple wood, or sometimes alder wood, then brush on a little bit of honey and butter mix, wrap in foil and bake the meat. : )
When I turned 18 and moved out of the house and into my own home/adult life.... my dad gifted me with a .22 revolver for my protection. I still have it. I've had people, (mostly men) tell me I needed a more powerful weapon to kill an intruder if one ever broke into my home.
Too many people underestimate what a .22 can do...and the one thing I do like about a .22 pistol/revolver is that once fired...and it hits the target, it has less chance than a high powered slug of going through the person. And even if it does, it's lost a lot of energy and the bullet probably isn't going to keep traveling through several walls and end up hurting someone in other rooms, another apartment, or even outside of the building/home.
People really underestimate a .22, it is very dangerous my father hunted ibex with a .22 and he killed alot.
Cool story bro
That is the least american thing i have seen on the internet for the past year.
@@MrSkullSociety What hunting ibex? Or having something less than a cannon to defend one's life and property...lol
All other issues aside, better to have a 22 than nothing, and it's not an assassin's caliber for no reason.
1 minute in and I already lost my shit twice to Charlie, the man is the national treasure we must all protect and cherish
Full Agree
The fuckin massive wrench with a sling had me dying
he was on fire
Bro, he is witty and fast with it 🤣
@@jdoerr779 Everyone needs a tactical assault wrench.
The meme edditing lately has been A+. Compliments to the editor,
@micahmayfield
Compliments, Micah!
@@GarandThumb is they/them another diversity hire?
@@GarandThumb ty, subbed to our boi
Agreed this video was hilarious!
When I was growing up in rural Indiana, we had a burn barrel at the back of our 1 acre property. Behind us was a corn field. I’m guessing two-three hundred yards until it butted up against a line of trees. Then a small river and then just on the other side of the river, a very hole-in-wall general/convenience store. My brother and I had .22LR rifles our dad bought for us (I still have the bolt action one) and we would regularly go out back and shoot holes in the burn barrel and put up targets like pop cans to shoot at.
One summer we were out riding our bikes and stopped in the store to get a soda. Mind you our house was not even visible from the store. They were talking about the fact that someone had shot holes in the back of the store. 🥴
We looked at each other and never knew if we were the ones who had shot them. It seemed far-fetched but plausible. Thank God no one got shot or died.
🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️😆👍🏻 this is too accurate for what brothers get up to when we're younger (innocently might I add!). Only to find out the next day what you were doing simply as harmless play, had some catastrophic consequences upstream somewhere and it even made the papers. You and your brother just give one another the silent "uh oh 👀" look and pray no one got hurt 😬😬🤐🤐🙏🏻🙏🏻. That, and you didn't want the absolute ass whooping dad would bring. 😆
@@discipleaj agreed! I remember growing up and doing the same thing shooting coke cans I had set up in the woods like I was a sniper. Prob only 200 yards from where I was shooting and not thinking about it really going that far through the woods, put a couple through my great-grandmother’s mailbox! I figured with the elevation difference and being on the woods, nothing would make it out. My dads belt made it out however!
As someone from Indiana, I can relate to this. Though I had a cheap lever action bought from Wal-mart.
@@justaaron2558 I think we all did!😂😂 that and the Marlin semi auto piece of shit or the pump action 22 that stored the rounds in the tube under the barrel!
@Chris Jones Any home-brew devices just for the fun of it or because you were playing commando? We did 😆
Good times in the wild! 😎✊🏻
About 40 years ago when my dad was a teenager, he had a stray .22 bullet come across the lake and stick into his back. His friend pulled it out and he never told his mom.
He is lucky to be alive! If it had fragmented it would definitely have killed him!
@@DuplexWeevil337 yes he is especially with the amount of whiskey he is drinking these days is 57
That's how we did things back then. The last thing we wanted was our parents getting on to us for getting hurt.
No he didn't. Lmfao
@@jdnoble1000All bullets have range and once it loses velocity it's basically a bb. Definitely believable, not sure why you find it hard to comprehend..."Lmfao"
I love how at times this seems like a skit show that happens to feature firearm info and I'm all for it, I need to simultaneously laugh while l learn
Reminds me of carnik con.
"I'm a diversity hire-"
"OH NO NO NO-"
This channel might be my favorite.
Brandon enters the chat ...
California in a nutshell.
It's why Elon fired so many people from twitter, most of em were paid to do nothing.
@@number3766 dude you should try going outside instead of getting the high score on internet “am I autistic” tests
@@HourEleven I mean, he's right though. You don't need 100 pajeet coders sitting around banning people all day in order to run Twitter lol.
@@HourEleven he could never beat me
This is insane! So .22 in a pinch can actually be a very good range defense option. With as quiet as it is, you’d never give up your location.
Unless someone was wearing body Armor I wouldn't hesitate to use a .22 long rifle for defense. For one they are highly accurate. And two, a .22 round is more lethal than most people think. A round that small has better chance ricocheting off bones and changing course in the body.. that doesn't happen everytime but it definitely happens
But .22's are definitely loud enough to give away your position usually unless its suppressed.. tho that last one he was shooting seemed as quiet as a pellet gun lol
@@e.k.izzle32 9 times out of 10 if you are using it for defense they don’t have body armor on. Even if they did body armor doesn’t cover the face
my brother in christ what the fuck do you think 5.56 is.... its a slightly oversized .22 with a fuck load of more powder... the u.s. government sends men to war with varmint rifles... and sometimes the good idea fairy also makes the u.s government send experimental rounds with said varmint rifles like titanium coated 5.56. which is fucking retarded.
@@e.k.izzle32 My favorite part about is that if you have a semi auto and you can hit a target once, you can probably hit with at least 3 or 4 follow up shots because the recoil is so light. The round has survived 100+ years for good reason.
When I was 9 someone shot a .22 from a backyard a couple over. It went right past my head. It sounded like a loud mosquito. I will never forget that sound.
Lucky.
You sure someone didn’t try to assassinate you? lol
I have a small scar on my forehead from a 22
As a person that has pushed .22 to 425 yds I can attest that it becomes very unstable past 380 yds and goes all over the place.
Anything to do with supersonic ammunition to going subsonic in middle of flight ?
@@Kesssuli that is my assumption. When the bullet is in the transonic phase it will lose stability. Some calibers/bullet shapes do better than others however.
It's all about truing the BC correctly. And the SD of velocity. As long as you've got a good curve the wind becomes the primary variable. 400 is more then doable 500 is a bit more inconsistent but still not bad at all.
Most rimfire match ammo is subsonic and doesn't have issues with the transonic shift. That happens at under 100yards with supers...
@@HS-qt3jr so. I have a savage B22 with a vortex diamondback 4-16x44 standar velocity cci. And with it I get very consistent hits at 300 yds, around 380 I can hit 70% of the time (with a bit of wind ~6mph on the day I went) and when I went to 425 it took 28 shots to get 1 hit. And the bullets were landing on a 10' circle all around the target. So it was all luck at that point.
Edit: even with a 20moa rail I was out of reticle and elevation to use.
@@Kesssuli 22 rimfire at 1200 fps prob goes transonic at about 50 yds. So no, that's not the reason for a loss of stability at 400 yds.
Hello dr thumb, I’m sure you are aware of the special made hard-cast, penetrator rounds that people carry in their sidearm as protection when hunting in grizzly territory. I know they are made in 10mm and 9mm at least. It would be awesome to see a video analyzing how effect these are compared to standard FMJ! I’ve been told that 10mm is the ultimate grizzly stopping caliber for semi-auto handguns. Thanks for the awesome videos!
It's been done. Just search it
Long and short, the bear is very angry while killing you.
Ill take my chances woth a 45-70 guide gun
Underwood Xtreme Penetrator rounds are decent large animal protection even in 9mm. Of course shot placement is key, but this round has changed the situation about 9mm not being enough against bear.
The majority of 10mm is loaded much below spec these days unfortunately. Some brands like Buffalo Bore & Underwood still load them hot like they should be.
Years ago, my friend caught what appeared to be a 30 caliber round that twisted into the knit fabric of the stocking cap he was wearing. He did not hear the rifle shot that it came from. What scared him was he was alone, and thought someone smacked him in the back of the hear very hard. Really spooked him, since he was by himself. Took a minute to discover the bullet. This is a no shit story, he still has the cap, with the bullet stuck in the fabric.
Where was he when it happened?
Duuuude. That's insane.
@@aaronthompson192 He was at a relatives home in MI, the backyard which abuts farm land, wide open fields...
I can definitely believe that.
@@duenge that is Wild.
The fact that my thumb jammed in my Garand 2 days ago, which my father always warned me of, Garand Thumb...I joined because of your name and tour cool content.
Moral of the story: people are, in general, really easy to poke holes in.
All them spears, bows, crossbows trough the history
Ballistics dummies are *way* easier though. You can do it with a finger.
@@gratefulguy4130 I dunno, Fist of the North Star made it look pretty easy to poke fingers into people as well!
Love
Fist of the Northstar!
The original one and the newer one.
English dub only.
Some have holes that are easy to poke.
Use this as a button to request more SCIENCE!
At what point will they become the new and improved Church of the Scientology!?
MORE DATA NEEDED PLEASE
Do a Ruger Mini 14 or Beretta CX4 Storm review!
Nah, science is great, but we need Recce-Videos! (personal opinion)
Moar sy ants pleez!
I've always wondered what the story with the "Dangerous up to 1-mile" label that's on every .22LR box, meanwhile absolutely no other cartridge or shotgun shell box has a similar warning (Some have ballistic charts, but no like a "Dangerous up to 5-miles")
That is because it has been a really common round for about 150 years and also commonly used by children, so way back yonder times some would think it is such a small bullet they could just shoot it up at birds and squirrels and such which, even in trees, often have nothing but air as a backstop, because what could it hurt? As it turns out the answer is 'Everything' and so some started putting a warning on boxes that it is still lethal and still dangerous and you still have to be careful. Only the very rare idiot would launch a 6.5 Creedmoor up at a squirrel, so there has not been a call to remind people on the box.
Very perplexing indeed. Shotguns are deadly out to a couple hundred yards with buckshot (low chance that any pellets even connect past that) and longer with a slug if you can make it that far. Any larger rifle calibers are gonna be deadly to pretty much any range due to projectile shape and size, if you can get them out to whatever range that is.
If money weren't an issue, I'd love to set up a 30-mile long strip of land with markers every 100yds and just arc the hell out of some big calibers and see where they end up. Since that's not possible for me, maybe I'll try to do the math/physics on maximum flight distance if I get really bored one day lmao
Hey that's a good point! I never realized that. No other ammo states dangerous range.
@@alexithymia6288 most rounds that are military issue or similar have been tested fully, so you can check those reports. Modern rounds sometimes have but it is more difficult to find the info since it is usually a private company doing it instead of a government agency that is required to publish results eventually
Probably because it is easy to believe that .22 is too weak - even Garand Thumb thought so in the video above. The sound, recoil, and lag time from shot to contact makes it very easy to underestimate the potential lethality of the .22.
Good to know that the warnings I got as young Un about the 22 being deadly further out than I could actually hit something were Indeed accurate.
The editing on that final shot of the dummy getting murked was brilliant. The music matched up to the shots.
jFK style
*For $cience!!!!*
Cinematic😔👌
Yeh that was pretty gnarly
"That's a shot to the heart"
"But who's to blame?"
Underrated line.
You give love a bad name.
I talked to that dude on the phone once - right as he was becoming a Big Shot. He's a World Class Dickhead lol
.22 is nonlethal at any distance if you aim for the foot. Evidence: I took a .22 to the foot from 1.5yd thanks to my cousin ND'ing.
I demand details. Lol
@@ShellShock11C Outdoor range day up in the mountains (I'm from Colorado), bad trigger discipline, teenagers. I was standing to his right, and when he turned to remark to my uncle that he'd hit bullseye, he flagged and popped me. Thankfully, the 2 adults in attendance were a veteran (my dad) and a practical guy with first aid certification (my uncle.)
It hit the outermost bone in that foot. I wore a boot for a month while the bone set, pinky toe still doesn't bend all the way... but at least he flagged my foot and not my torso.
You guys cool now?
No it aint lmao.
@@jbeef4306 yeah, we were cool pretty quickly since it was an accident. This was also like... 2014?
Had a friend growing up who was shot with a .22 round at unknown distance which struck him in the stomach. He thought he heard a report from far away after being struck. He walked a mile back to his truck. His father was there and drove him at top speed to the hospital where his life was spared. From that day on his nickname became Wolfman because it would take more than a lead bullet to kill him. He was always teased about having two belly buttons.. A true lesson to always have a trauma kit with you especially during hunting season. Thank God his father was there that day!
I took a report about 30 years ago. A little girl was sitting on a fence when a .22 hit her leg. Pushed her Levis into her leg, but it didn't puncture the Levis. No shot heard. From a variety of things I came up with the most plausible scenario being someone was probably throwing something in the air and shooting at it. The bullet went up and traveled several hundred yards and came down on the little girl's leg. Just enough velocity to do some damage but not enough to penetrate the denim.
That's likely what a 1 mile shot with .22 looks like. It was likely carrying about 5 to 7 ft/lbs of energy, which I happen to know won't break through heavier clothing like jeans but can certainly cause injury.
My grandfather had a story that he was out in the woods when he was younger and felt like he got stung on his shoulder, on his back where he couldn't reach. The spot got more sore and swollen over a few days. Went to doctor, and he popped it like a pimple. Out came a .22 bullet.
Wtffff
Probably a short or a flobert.
There was a study done where they collected data from hundreds of trauma surgeons, and the conclusion was that caliber is largely irrelevant. It is shot placement that kills. Train with your weapon and it will be effective.
I think being shot in the gut with a .50 BMG would be a lot worse than a .22, a .22 you might survive, a .50 you would not
@@thegamingbean953 and getting hit with an RPG7 or a warhead from a Trident missile is worse than a .22 also. You’re missing the point. Those weapon systems aren’t even comparable to small arms.
You forgot the nuke
@@AutisticMelon1 a Trident is a submarine launched ballistic nuclear missile.
@@briannewman532 didn’t know that thank you 🙏🏻
Almost 2 minutes in and Charlie is already killing it.
I was on the floor after the SDI sponsorship part XD
He’s simply annoying.
@@Glocktard You're annoying. GTFO here. This is the "we love Charlie" zone and you're not welcome here. :(
@@Glocktard ok killjoy
Out in the sticks in the early 80s, as a 12 yr old, my friends and I could buy boxes of 50 .22LR bullets for $2 each at a general store. On the end flap it would say: Range 1.5 miles.
Someone might have done actual tests for safety, like if you shoot at a bird and miss where will the bullet land
I remember some boxes saying Range 2 miles.
most modern bullets fired at a 45* angle can and will go miles not including if you're higher up then the impact point. 1.5 miles for safety.
@@JWQweqOPDH You do not shoot at a bird with standard ammunition, that is just stupid.
@@thebeastmaster3453 Obviously it would be stupid, but why else would a .22 lr round fly over a mile away? It would be because someone did something stupid.
The SDI jokes are getting even more fucked up.
I love it,
I swear I heard 'Sonoran Desert Prostitute.'
@@DrJohnTaylorKent "Dora's Snoring Prostitutes"... I think. 🤣🤣
@@DrJohnTaylorKent
I heard Sonoran Dead Prostitute😄
I hope SDI know we understand it's Sonoran Dessert Institute.
I heard Dora snoring prostitutes
@@DrJohnTaylorKent well... i head "Doras snoring prostitutes" so...
I nearly spit my coffee at(5:24). "We got a Bear?" And the blank stare back. IDK why, but I periodically chucked even a minute later. Lol
I just love how the lab coat gets every bit bloodier with each episode
Looks like Heinz Doofenschmirts from Phineas and Pherb
Sorry boys. Couldn't find the original .22 man comment. He will live on in our hearts as a hero
That's what I was looking for
Everybody always highly underestimates the .22
.22 is the round used my hitmen because it's subsonic and easy to suppress.
@Johnny Black a .22 subsonic suppressed is the craziest sound I've ever heard. It's almost like you're dry firing the gun.
Yeah, people put way too much importance into these stupid numbers.
A 22 bullet is not necessarily less dangerous than a 45 or a 50 bullet, just like it probably doesn't mean it's more deadly than 12 or 9.
And what those numbers are meaning anyway? Is it the amount of powder inside the bullet or something? I don't think it's really important anyway...
@@Reth_Hard It is pretty significant. .22 represents the diameter of the bullet in millimeters. a larger bullet is (generally speaking) going to create a larger hole. ofc there are other confounding variables like amount of powder and the length of the barrel of the gun. but size definitely does matter.
@@rat_king-os2lp To be a smart-ass, .22 is the diameter in inches and is called caliber. After a quick Google search, .22 comes up as 5.6mm on average
The only type of ammo we can fire in the UK, also can't own centerfire rifles, but, can own .22 firing rifles.
Make freedom legal again. Repeal those laws.
Love that Charles is carrying a huge wrench on a sling. These guys are mastering their unique comedic style and timing.
Thank you for making us all start the new year with a good laugh! So many good one-liners
Charlie was ready for this home run derby. How does the team recover to get back on camera and continue to shoot any footage? Amazing.
This content is pure gold, my friend.
Just to be clear, a collapsed lung will eventually put enough pressure on the other lung to kill you by asphyxiation. That’s if the air doesn’t also travel over to the other side of your chest and collapse the other lung.
sucking chest wound akin to drowning
Thanks Dr Fauci
@@Goodnightandgoodluck-c7m put an occlusive dressing that valves open, taped on 3 sides. Then get to a hospital, you’re gonna need a chest tube.
Good to know if I ever get to shoot a .22 👍
Fauci and his friends would collapse your lungs, but with a different type of shot 💉
I'm not the biggest gun nerd but the transformation this channel has had in terms of it's production quality/choices is really inspiring. You guys are doing something truly unique in this space.
Other tests and yours have basically cemented my opinion that .22lr is still deadly out to ranges where you can't hit shit.
Good video
it blew my mind tbh
@@GarandThumb That's what she said.
I feel like it says "dangerous at 1.5 miles" on the box for a reason, probably found out the hard way.
@@bdkj3e Guess I'm gonna go check some boxes at home later lol
@@GarandThumb I remember back when I was about 12-13 or so and during my hunter education course for 4H the Conservation Officer had a pretty crazy story about a guy on a riding lawn mower found dead. He had a bullet wound from a .22 that was shot almost a mile away by some kids hunting squirrels in the woods, they were shooting into the tree tops and a round had missed and the dude just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time when the bullet came back down. Now I don't know if this was "urban legend" used to scare kids about the danger of firearms or a true story but it seems plausible none the less.
I'm saving up for a stainless steel 10-22 and I'm going to use it for fun, home defense, hunting and shtf
Literally 15 seconds in and I already love it.
Wow you used the word literally again. Probably your 85th time today.
Just not so cheap anymore as all ammo is not
@@billwood5502 .22lr is cheaper than other popular ammo!
@@RealMTBAddict yes it is, but however, it has still gone up significantly as compared to what it was. 500 rounds at under $10 is now almost $30. I was just merely saying that all ammo is going up and not as cheap as it used to be. All good
@@RealMTBAddictWow, should I edit it out if it hurts your feelings this much? You ok?
This channel has always been awesome. But over the past year you guys have taken it to another level of entertainment and education.
My great uncle died from a 22 bullet that was shot from over a mile away.
Some idiot shooting 22s into the air put one right through his heart.
He was 17.
They catch the retard shooter?
@@ShellShock11C yup. He was a a kid.
My great great grandparents never wanted to press charges for it and just wanted the kid to do his best in life and learn from it. I think they kept in contact for a few years too.
bro the chances of a shot going over a mile and hitting someone in the heart is like 1 in millions and one of those freak accidents that almost sound surreal
@@djsubliminalreeve In Finland it similiar happened.
If i remember it was bit before 2000.
Man took a shot to bird in tree and missed. After miss he started walk back to
his camp to find out his own brother lying on groud near campfire. Shot trough a heart.
It was corfirmed by police investigation that that shot he missed from 3 kilometers away hit
his brother and killed him a spot.
Also rare case where no charges were applied because someone already had it rough enough.
@@djsubliminalreeve It has happened several times in California. People shooting guns into the air and then hits someone somewhere across the city. It's very confusing for forensics but they basically assume because the entrance wound was at such a high angle and there wasn't anything tall enough for the shooter to stand on, it had to have been a distant shot.
I love what you do garandthumb but I would really love more 22lr videos it’s such an underestimated round
I think it’d be cool to see different armor types going against different calibers at different ranges
I mean if everybody is paying for weapons and stuff for both sides it's probably already a world war
armors are rated to certain calibers and theyre all mostly accurate so just check those out
Watch demolition ranch
The 1-2 mile warning on the box isn't just random CYA. There have been fatal hits with 22lr at 1+mile (random bad luck in these cases) where it hit someone and went through the skin and had a jolly good time on their insides. Turns out it takes very little energy to penetrate human skin. Muscle does a fairly good job of slowing things down though. The more muscle you have the more energy will bleed off. Still, yeah. The hits won't make you DRT but 22lr can cause serious injury at great distance.
BS
@@imeprezime1285 There was a local in my area who was shot by a .22lr at what the news said was “over 2 miles”
But looking at it on google maps, and measuring the distance between the recorded points (a gravel pit used as a firing range, to a trail) it was 1.3 miles.
It hit him in the neck, almost clean through. He died on the way to the hospital from massive blood loss. An EMT I know told me the details they learned later, confirming it was a .22lr.
However that’s like a 1 in a bajillion chance of that happening. And the person who fired the shot was never identified.
@@tricksterjoy9740 Maybe they thought 1.2 miles. That might be possible during summer time and some tail wind assistance I guess. However, deep wound you describe is quite improbable. 22 LR is very wimpy at max distance it can travel to
@@imeprezime1285 oh definitely, the odds of something like that happening are extraordinarily low. And my best guess is the ammo had to be something more potent then standard lead round nose. Maybe even a significantly hotter then it’s supposed to be round. As that’s not entirely uncommon with some brands. (Having inconsistent powder loads)
Something like that is almost in the legal category of “acts of god” like weather and tsunamis type of things.
Always loved the 22LR. Truth is hit a target enough it can die. Best part about the 22 is the fact that there is basically zero recoil. So as long the barrel stays cooled you're probably able to get more shots out of it before it malfunctions. It depends on the rounds more than the gun. I love these.
"You can dispatch a target with 5 or 6 round or just one" *points to 50bmg*
@@spectralknight7142 no doubt. However how fast can you recover from firing off a 50 cal shot. What if you miss. Can you get on target quick enough. How long can you carry the 50 bmg. Can you shot from a standing position. There are plenty of factors with every gun. I like every weapon, be that gun or melee. I just see a problem lugging around a larger gun than I do a smaller one. However if I can have both the 50bmg and this I surely would. However for many people price is a factor that will make the choice for us. Also I prefer a faster set up. Yet as a tennessean i love the 50 cal.
I love the 22 for the same reason. Not to mention they are very underestimated for personal defense. I'd take a .22 pistol with an 18-24 round magazine over a 9mm with just 8-12. But I prefer the rifles, mainly the bolt-action. I'm not sure why but I always shoot best with a bolt-action rifle.
@@MildarValsik ...and you can put 100 rounds of 22LR in your pocket, but for a 50 bmg you need a small backpack or sling.
But then again you'll struggle to shoot through a car door with a 22LR while the 50 bmg can shoot through the whole engine block.
Choose the right tool for the job.
@@Sindrijo that is a clear reason that the 50 BMG was created for. Key word is right tool for the job. People are arguing about this and that. Yet never thought about which job I'm talking about for the 22LR. There is something to be said about stopping power, penetration, and effectiveness. Is the 22LR a tool of war... hell no.. Is it going to work for any civilian defensive reason. Probably not the most effective. However it can give more practice time in to be able to put a penny on the floor in one shot without breaking the bank. That's my point of it's effectiveness. Some 22LR systems can be the one thing to put on target and disable a threat with the least danger to anything behind it. I call this a "Soft target round". It's made to do the job of hitting and stoping soft targets or take out soft spots.
In class with SDI currently. Lots of writing/reading to start but I’m loving the history aspect that is brought to the table.
If nothing else this is an excellent demonstration on why a larger heavier round is best for longer range shots.
100% true
I always wondered why people say the 22 isn’t deadly. Sure, it won’t immediately delete someone but the pain/shock of having a round in you will likely put you on the ground, making you an easy target to finish off
A 22 heads shot is an instant death. Even if you somehow would survive you'd be unconscious with bits of bone in your brain. Also it depends where it hits. For the most part there have been tons of time where people that got shot had so much adrenaline they did even know they got hit, if it his a bone or something vital you'll different realize you got shot.
Unless we are talking about a guy with thick muscles, guy in delirium state, or guy high in drugs.
A shotgun slug maybe good, but better emptying the whole mag of 22LR while running away.
@@jerichojaramillo449don’t forget if the bullet enters the skull… your brain is essentially a maraca now
@@jerichojaramillo449 crazily enough I know someone who got shot point blank w a 22 in the face and was lucky enough to not have it hit anything vital and survived
so the reason people say 22 isn't deadly is the ballistic shock of the round, I.E. the cavitation of air at impact and through the travel of the body that shreads soft tissue, a 22 is so small that unless you get a dead on vital point shot that if you're anywhere near a modern hospital your chances of survival are through the roof. normal rule of thumb that brain, brainstem, or heart is deadly with anything going through it. a 7.62 round can MISS the heart but the cavitation's of the bullet traveling through you can and will still shread your heart and lungs beyond repair or surviving if its within say 3-4 inches of your vital organs. so basically, the difference of direct heartshot or brain shot, vs, neck and above, or anywhere within 4 inches of the heart, or your liver, and it'll take ribs through those compared to a 22 which unless coming at a 90* angle will probably ricochet off into your body elsewhere.
Mike raffle off that hat and support fellow Veterans. The Altoid, you can keep. Lol. Love the climatic music.
Charlie was on point on this episode. I watched him introduce SDI 5 times. Nicely done Gentlemen.
Literally the best advertisement skit. I watched it multiple times laughing
@@asidAttack so did I
Same here!! He was so funny this episode!
It’s a miracle SDI keeps sponsoring the boys with Charlie’s remarks every video 😂😂😂
No such thing as bad Publicity!
Pretty sure that's WHY they keep doing it. We all think its hilarious and remember them more because of that goofball.
Probably why they keep at it. Makes it funnier, which is easier for people to remember
As someone who has vested interest in the public appearance of the company that they work at I agree that SDI probably love it. It makes SDI easily remembered and makes it look like a leading member of the community likes them.
You might think so until you realize they can take a joke. They aren’t some stuck up liberals arts college.
I shot 400 suppressed .22 rounds out of my MKIV yesterday. I didn’t even make time for the GAU 5 A/A. That’s how damn fun it is.
wait what
@@ghislainedidntkillherself My same reaction to this comment.
What I am most impressed with isnt the lethality of the 22LR. It is the off hand open sight pinpoint accuracy you have shooting 22LR OFFHAND. Hitting sternum and throat shots. Must have had 0 wind
Ever hear a 22 crack after passing thru a target? Sounds super scary, small target practice, using cci stinger, and segments hp mini mag, every shot that goes thru the tree will sound like a loud crack, also heard it ricochet after messing around shooting small target, heard the ricochet up towards a hill and impact, yeah never underestimate a 22
Fweeet!!
That's the noise I heard the two times I was shot at by a .22.
Once deliberately. Once by mistake.
Never shot one at a target but there was the one time at Walmart...
As an SDI alumni, I love the inventive mangling of the school name.
So what is your honest opinion of the school??
Yes, worth your time and money or no?
Experience? What’s it like?
Man I really want to do sdi but I don't have the resources currently to mill an 80% lower
@Abe Adams Sonoran desert institute
Sadly, when I was in college in the 70’s, we had a kid killed while watching a lacrosse match. The shot came from a middle school kid, almost a half a mile away, shooting birds out of his bedroom window. I am sure that it a was parabolic flight path…..but fatal nonetheless.
Damn thats some rotten luck.
When I was in high school a kid and two of his brothers were rabbit hunting with .22s when his brother was shot in the chest and died. The youngest brother who I was friends with (who pulled the trigger) said the bullet ricocheted off a rock on the ground then hit another rock then reflected off a tree then hit his brother in the lung. It was investigated and his story checked out
come on man!
Dude is going through his entire life knowing he killed his brother. Holy shit
I can believe it. Lifelong shooter myself, I've had 2 experiences of "near misses" from OTHER people using 22's.
I heard a neighbour (rural area) blazing away with a semi automatic, thought I'd wander down the hill and take a squiz. Faster than I could react, like a stone skipping across water but 10x faster, I saw the puffs of dirt screaming uphill towards me as a bullet missed my legs by a couple of yards at most. I drove round to abuse the person responsible, and realised they were NOT doing anything I would have considered "really stupid" - just letting their kids shoot up a fencepost well inside their own boundary. Nowhere near my direction, but the bullet had ricocheted off the flat face of a wooden fencepost at a 90 degree angle, then "bounced" its way a good 400m - UPHILL - towards me. "Unexpected" is an understatement. The second close call was so unbelievable I won't mention it. But yeah, 22's can ricochet.
Was his name Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mike seriously thank you for putting out information like this for us to use and help educate us for times like when a U.S. president candidate gets nearly shot by what we think a .22 and this really helps us make a great comparison.
😂😂😂 the videos have always been good but lord the comedic quality is leaps and bounds better these days
“I’m the diversity hire” I felt that on a personal level.
Happy new year!
Ngl, at this point Charlie's one-liners need their own carry license. ^^
Your balance between comedy and education is on top and imo second to none on yt.
Well said.
As a serious science nerd and a shooter since I was 8 I love this channel! I also very much enjoy the humor. You guys make me laugh 10x more than Saturday Night Live’s recent episodes. Science doesn’t have to be dull.
There is something that is incredibly scary about that little bullet quietly flying into the target
Yeah at 100yds with a good suppressor you probably wouldn't hear enough of the sound to realize it was a gun firing. Ninja caliber for sure. Think it was on an episode of NCIS where the killer was a woman who seduced sailors and proceeded to kill them with a suppressed .22 pistol so that their bodies wouldn't be found for a few days as nobody around the area heard a gunshot.
@@alexithymia6288 yep, that one🧜♀️
Lmao Charlie is a national treasure
A bit like Macaulay Culkin as Ron Jeremy’s meat shield.
Love the .22lr caliber, just a fun and cheap round to shoot. 👍
lol it looks and sounds like a bb gun
@@andrew9371 depending in your country (or state) the less "scary" your gun the better
Prices doubled since 2019
@@thomasgellos1732 about 7 cents a round currently. 10cents for good stuff
Ive seen my father drop a 130 lb buck with a heart shot at 60 yards... with a 90 dollar Marlin 22LR from Walmart. Do not sleep on a .22!
Back in the 1960s when I was a kid a guy was killed squirrel hunting at almost a mile with a 22 .
Seems legit.
@@andreivaldez2929 It is it was in all the local papers and news for a few days, the sheriff decided it was an accidental shooting
That's a pretty impressive shot for a squirrel to make.
That’s one eagle-eyed squirrel
@@junioraltamontent.7582 They made a movie about it, the squirrel was played by Mark Wahlberg ruclips.net/video/XbpKJIQXEuY/видео.html
This might be the most based science videos I've ever seen.
It's "basted"
Amazing right!
And your assesment one of the most stupid!
.22 can kill at that range IF you can hit the target (no spoilers how far they took this). A bit surprising, but not totally shocking either.
May want to give this a watch... not hard to hit if you know what you are doing. ruclips.net/video/d_EMY7fJFlc/видео.html
A .22 requires good shot placement i would not want to use it for self-defense though not as a main gun as a backup sure or a toss in my glove box and forget till needed gun yep any day of the week
For something to just pick up and plink um yeh no question at all 22 is one of the most fun guns you can have honestly
The Israelis used .22s to lets just say get even after the Olympics attack in 72 10 round mag loaded with 8 to save on the spring ...
@@nanaki-seto .22 LRs are good offensive weapons, not good defensive weapons. If you need to survive long term, a suppressed 10/22 is a great choice. You can hunt with that and easily have enough ammo with you to last the rest of your life. And if you need to use it against a human in some kind of ambush where they don't see you coming you could do that too (but pretty stupid to be going around deliberately killing people in a SHTF situation anyway, people should be grouping up as there's strength in numbers, not being lone wolves). A .22 LR is practically the last thing you'd want to use in an actual gunfight. Unless you're a very good/lucky shot under stress, you're simply not going to be able to stop the fight quickly enough.
@@fakecubed I agree but someone I know dropped two dudes dead pretty much instantly that where trying to rob him with a 25.
@@505fastlife6 That can happen with the right shot placement but it’s not something I’d count on happening.
“.22 isn’t a self defense round!”
the .22 that just shattered the dummy’s rib:
“are you sure about that?”
meaning if they’re full of adrenaline and charging me with a knife or they have any other weapon i can still definitely die!
Just got accepted to SDI because of you, excited to start in March! Full in on the Associate Of Science In Firearms Technology Degree. I think it was subliminal, hearing it from every single video you put out, it's like etched into my brain lol.
Just graduated. Definitely worth it.
Do you have to have prior experience with machine shop stuff or no? I can't really find out on their website and I don't want to sit and have a full on phone conversation with someone trying to get me to sign up just to find out something simple like that
@@ryanbrown4053 Nope. It helps to have things such as basic tools, a vise, clamps, etc. They will send you all of the materials you will need for the projects and such.
@@Beans933 and no kind of mechanical experience of any kind is required? I mean obviously it's preferred but not required?
@@ryanbrown4053 I work at a manufacturing plant and I have my own wood shop and half of a metal shop, I'm still working on getting my forge. I'm an engineer by trade now though so having experience like that absolutely helps. None of that is required however, but to make the muzzleloader you will most certainly need to be at least decent working with wood and mechanically inclined, and to be a gunsmith or armorsmith you need some experience along with knowledge for sure. The internet cannot instill the skills required to be one but you can be an apprentice, entry level, or practice in your garage. Milling however, requires on the job experience unless you can afford a used Bridgeport or similar milling machine and a lathe. I believe anyone can do it though if you try hard enough. I'm strictly speaking post graduate of course. The only downside is that the average gunsmith salary is not very high, at all. I'm not doing it to become one for a living, I am doing it for my passion for firearms, fixing things, and fabrication. I would not recommend doing it for a living unless you open your own shop. They simply just don't make that much money, on average. I make FAR more as an automation engineer. That said, there's nothing wrong with not making a ton of money if you love what you do, but I plan on doing it on the side and for my own enjoyment. Not to say I wouldn't become one full time under the right circumstances but I am fortunate to have an amazing job, and frankly just plain lucky. I learned all my skills mostly on my own at home by just, making random crap with a cheap $100 welder, my tools that I have collected over the years, and just practice for fun. My job however vastly improved and honed my skills of course. I now fabricate all sorts of random things such as jigs, custom tooling for our robots, custom tables for robot picking and placing. It's all really just years of messing around and practice on anything I could get my hands on.
The chemistry the Garand Thumb team has is priceless!
Charlie and his SDI flub-ups!! And Kenny...the diversity hire!!?? I'M DEAD!! HA HA HA HA!!!! The beginning of this episode KILLED!! Another great job guys!! Keep em coming and Happy 2023!!
Dear doctor, please help me, my hearings damaged. I didn't wear my ear plugs when I should. I liked to hear, the 20mm casings, ringing off the deck but now my hearing is fkd. Missed all the dialogue, please doc, bring back the captions
God damn Charlie's fuck up was priceless in this. He's gonna have to try hard to top that throughout the year
As a person who is just an observer from Perth, WESTERN AUSTRALIA
I can conclude that this video has been extremely useful in understanding the .22 rifle.
Charlie was absolutely on fire this time out! I'm also glad to see that the rake (R.I.P., blue plastic rake) has been replaced with a tool I hope to see more of in future videos, though the wrench could be improved upon by swapping the basic sling out for a tactical sling. You never know when you'll need a giant wrench, so it's best to be prepared as much as possible.
Also, definitely looking forward to more diversi...uh, Kenny-related content. He's doing magnificent work, especially with all the new equipment from the influx of PatreonBucks that needs to be set up. Hooray Kenny!
Charlie wakes up and chooses factual violence. What a great way to start the year.
When does Charlie start his own channel?? The lad is a beauty and deserves more attention!
9:06 thank you for the idea.
Charlie NEEDS HIS OWN CHANNEL!! featuring Garand Thumb
He does, its called Garand Thumb
we got a bear really too everyone off guard. mike almost broke
So I’m not sure how accurate this story is, but my boss was a police officer in a very small town in Missouri in the late 70’s and told me this story: he said that they were called to a plant nursery because a worked just collapsed randomly while tending to some plants. When they turned her over, she was bleeding from the base of the back of her head. They did an autopsy and found she was shot with a .22lr and they had no suspects or anything. They publish the story asking for the public to come forth with information and the only person to come forward was an elderly man who had been rabbit hunting over a mile away in the field that was adjacent to the nursery. He said he had missed a shot on a rabbit and had no idea where the round went. Apparently he had been shooting upwards at it, in the direction of the nursery. They had no other leads and came to the conclusion that he missed his shot and killed her from over a mile away. No charges were filed and it was closed as an accident. No idea if that’s possible or if that’s what happened, and my boss felt the same way, but that is the official cause of death in that case. Wonder if it actually was correct. I didn’t really think .22 would still be deadly past 400yds. Who knows, just figured the story was interesting and on topic.
There have been other recorded incidents of a .22 Lr at similar ranges.
@@gunfisher4661 yeah still not sure I believe it, but there’s definitely more merit to it than I first thought based on this video.
I know it’s well beyond .22’s effective (accurate at the very least) range. That’s for sure.
Accident my ass. He broke the firearm's safety rules and should've had his assed kicked.
Bro the first 3 minutes have me rolling 😂 that joke Kenny made was too much haha
That original LOTR callout @7:29 was both amusing and unexpected and I love how it hung around a while. Well played gents.
Yes
you forgot to do the headshots. i wanted to see how viable a 22 sniper would in a theorethical zombie apocalypse. i've long held the opnion that a silenced 22 (either rifle or pistol) would be ideal for zombie survival due to ammo abundancy, ammo weight and ability to be really fucking quiet, only thing i am unsure about how good it is at popping heads wich is kinda important when dealing with the undead.
Theoretically it only takes 10 ft lbs of energy to penetrate a human skull.
It's shit at popping heads. The only time a .22lr would ever "pop" a head is if you crammed a pound of tannerite into someone's mouth before shooting them. Even then, you'd probably just blow off their jaw and crack the skull to shit.
Literally just had this conversation with someone this weekend.
Well I've made headshots on camels with a 22lr at about 50 yards. If it can kill those boneheaded morons, zombies don't stand a chance. I think the biggest problem is the bullet is moving relatively slow, so it can bounce off more easily if it hits at an angle. For example, the only time I got penetration of skin on a camel was with a right angle impact. That said, 22 magnum gets much more penetration, with the downside of being supersonic.
@@SoMuchFacepalmI have to ask why are you shooting camels with 22s
As a firemedic, I’ve had more people commit suicide with a .22. Funny enough, the guy that tried to kill himself with a 12 gauge in the chest missed his heart removed a lobe of his lung and a armpit, he lived, then had another guy try with some sort of a .30 caliber rifle. He is still alive, even after losing most of his palate, cheek, jaw, and part of his skull. Unfortunately, his minor daughter was tasked with cleaning brain material from the ceiling.
When I was severely depressed years ago and contemplated suicide… that was always my worst fear… lol.. failing at killing yourself, and blowing half you face off.
@@dwightchaosisRoninI thought about it but the thought of drifting off scares me
Starting the new year off right with Dr. Garand Thumb and SCIENCE!
I was shot at near point blank range from a 22 hollow point in the arm. The bullet hit dead center of the bone, and then shattered, parts of the bullet went all the way through, and I actually entered into the skin of my stomach. In the x-ray a half inch of my bone was disintegrated.
Iraq veteran 8888 did a video testing this using a pine board and found it is deadly further than you could accurately make hits
Pine board lol
Served us well in the Great Pine War of 1892
@@gansior4744 apparently there’s some old army doctrine that if a bullet will pass through a 1/2” pine board it could kill a person. Not super scientific lol