2017 Dodge Viper ACR Nürburgring
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Official Lap Time of 7:01.3
Lance Arnold driving a 2017 Viper ACR-Extreme lapping the Nordschleife at Nurburgring.
Thank you to Viper Nation, Kumho Tire, Prefix, ViperExchange, BJ Motors, FoxProFilms, GoPro & Everyone involved in this effort.
Video by Colin G Fox / FoxProFilms
Here's to rear wheel drive, manual transmissions, and people driving cars. May those three things live on forever
Amen
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*A wild Tesla appears*
Best American car ever made, hands down.
@@hereb4theend The Viper uses faster Nürburgring lap time.
It's super effective!
Tesla has fainted!
It is so satisfying that, in 2017, a traditional manual-transmission vehicle is still one of the fastest road cars available
Well the Viper aint definetely the fastest. Its fast on track but on a highway its topspeed is only 320km/h on GTS-R verision ans 290km/h on ACR version
Get shitted on by the amg Gt black series by like 25 seconds 🤣
@@greyGG308 it makes like 100 more hp, is much more expensive, not discontinued.. just say you meat ride shitty german engineering lmao. american cars will always be on top, cry about it soyboy
@@greyGG308 that's more like 13 sec, don't forget that the Viper is designed in the 90s and it's a manual. so it's still an amazing laptime... The 911 GT3 does around 8 sec slower vs the Merc with minus 200 horsepower... how about that? :)
@@takkr1979 huh? Are you retarted and mad the 2016 Viper Acr got smoked by 30 seconds on the Nurburgring 🤣 you saying the Viper that hold the record for 7:01 was designed in the 90’s🤣🤡. Also that got destroy by the Amg 🤣🤣
The whole video is more thrilling and interesting to watch than an entire season of F1.
Haha 😂 👏
I can't get interested in f1 or indy racing. My brain cant look at those and see cars. They look like bugs to me. Racing bugs. Same for nascar. When they went from real "stock cars" to fibreglass and welded tube frames they lost me. This is a car we can actually buy (with enough money) and drive.
Congrats guys! Great result...
Shmee150 thanks guys!
+FoxProFilms
ACR / Pirelli Trofeo's with a new suspension set-up??
Expect low 6:50's.....
Can someone please set this up!
First they're gonna need a new gearbox, this one is f*cked
If you look at two onboard cameras from this run, and Dom's, Dom is actually about the same or maybe a 1/10th or so off and then in the middle section is actually ahead, but it was the last more technical part of the track and that long straight that he gained over 2 seconds.It's a a sub 7:00 car no doubt a private venture on a shoestring budget 3/10th of a second away from 7:00 at Nuremberg is crazy. I was reading how the drivers were very impressed with the performance.
You are such an idiot... "Vin russo". Calm down buddy... this fucking cheap car is dead now... lol! This stupid disguised GT3 racecar with new tires from 2017 has surely an advantage over a car that setted the track record like the 918 Spyder (four!!!! years ago), with tires from 2013. Is this so hard to understand... you clown? You can calm down now and admire your actual "heroes"... like your shitty Dodge Demon...lol!
Listen: nobody here in Europe is interested in your embarrassing American "We are the greatest thing"... you fucking stupid Trump-idiots! The shitty built Dodge Viper is dead now for a good reason! It wasn't simply good enough to convince people. The laughable selling numbers of that thing just told the truth! The best sportscars which are capable on a racetrack like the Nürburgring Norschleife are certainly not built in your country... Mr. vin russo! Greetings from Germany... not so far away from the Nordschleife!
The next absolute track record holder will be the new 911 GT2RS... That's not such a big secret anymore. And the Porsche will be absolutely streetlegal! The shitty Viper with its ridiculous GT3 racecar aero spec is just unusable on a public road. That has nothing to do with "streetlegal"!
He only missed those shifts because he was trying to hold on for dear life.
Transmission was shot from 3rd to 4th and they had no extra transmissions.
The gear box was shot, they didn't have any extra, obviously money and time were a factor, they had to use what they had, and doing 1/10th of a second from 7:00 is amazing. I applaud the fact that it was all donations from viper fans everywhere.
I love hearing that v10 redline
The driver shifted beautifully and managed the turns, braking, with control. Much better than driving an automatic transmission. Wow that Viper is a quick snake on the road! Quality American engineering well done Dodge crew!
Fantastic and fast! Raw and real... no awd, no dual clutch, no active aero!
Don't forget electric power boost that Porsche uses. I think Dom is a great driver, but a smaller lighter driver would have been faster. Dom is a big guy, over 6'0, not to mention after the first run they decided to put a roll bar on for safety. That weighed 70 pounds. so your talking 120 pounds or so more weight, that's huge. If you notice the top speeds between this guy and Dom's runs. Consistently faster on the straights, but if you look at some of the technical parts of the track Dominick is a little ahead, and pulling in to the finish Dom was faster.
There is no question that the ACR is a sub 7 minute car. If everything goes right (no miss shifts), it would easily land at around 6:55 every time.
The driver who did the 7:01 only had a single hot lap before the tire blew resulting in a wreck. The ACR still has so much more potential. It is a sub 7 minute car without a doubt.
It doesn't work that way, he had a couple of miss shifts, but it's not like in every miss shift the car stops at the exact spot, wait a second, and then continues at the same rate, the car just loses some momentum. He lost maybe 1 second in the entire lap because of that, not six seconds. He missed some apices towards the end of the lap, and that would be another second perhaps. Sub 7 car, could be. 6:55 in the same conditions, unlikely.
the missed gear coming onto the back straight can easily translate into a few seconds by the end of the straight
It works many ways. I've put both runs side by side by the second and it shows Dom and the 7:03 was ahead almost the entire first part of the circuit, even the fast middle parts. The last 3 1/2 minutes the 7:01 car gained over 3 seconds. It's silly to say this isn't a sub 7 car. These were Viper lovers who took donations, and two bare boned vipers, and see what it could do. A factory run would be much faster obviously.
+alexrex 20 hardly the miss shift coming onto the back straight hardly costed any time as the car hit its max speed and stayed there for a good 4 seconds, yes add it all up and you would get a sub 7:00 but drivers are humans and human error will always occur on a lap as long as the ring. I'd say the car would do around 6:58 given enough time don't see it going much quicker then that.
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate that this is a full h pattern manual we see here. Congrats to the driver on taming this beast, I'm sure it wasn't easy.
Proving yet again that the Viper, throughout its heritage, is the undisputed apex predator of the enthusiast world.
Any time set that is faster is either with a full race vehicle, or a specifically track prepped vehicle. There has never been a super car that is capable of what the Viper is off the showroom floor. Furthermore, there has never been one that can do it consistently without falling to pieces after a few hard runs.
Having had the chance to drive several iterations, I can whole heartedly say there is no more fulfilling experience in the automotive world, for a true enthusiast who loves the very essence of motion. Though my personal favorite is the 1993 RT/10...
Pure and visceral kinetic poetry, no matter what year or package you choose.
Hail to the King!
Ryan DeClue exactly. Mi favourite is a 2nd gen 2002 acr
Ryan DeClue F@#% Yeah man. Well said.
Keep in mind the acr is the only viper that handle's anywhere near that good. For the most part they are nothing special handling wise. The ACR EXTREME has 2000 pounds of aero. Nobody even offer's a aero package like that from the factory but considering corvette has won le mon 8 times the same aero package on it would be equal to or better than the viper as the corvette chassis has a 50/50 weight ratio. I really do like the viper though. It was strong in the tudor series too
James Avery I’m not surprised to see an idiotic comment like that from someone who’s never driven a Viper and knows nothing about them.
The Viper was putting down lap records all over the world long before the ACR package was ever a thing.
Find me some non ACR. Anybody who only likes one car has they're head up there ass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also the vette doesn't sound like a dump truck at low revs XD
You guys need to come back in October when record times are made...so close. Congrats to all.
Money.
It would help if the track surface wasn't over 50 degrees C too like when these laps were made. It just melted the tires too quickly.
Remember this was a gofundme, all donations. They're goal was 180.000 dollars and got it after months of trying. They would need about 250,000 dollars, get as much track time as possible. I saw 1.7 G's a few times, the Viper pulls 2.00 G's as shown at Laguna seca. i don't think they used the car to it's ability.also Dom is a great driver but he's a big dude, and they put on a roll bar which was 70 more pounds.Top speed it lacked, from the aero.
The Viper the Ali of Motor sports. Greatest Of All Time. Hats off....
More like Foreman, the GOAT
That's frigging awesome well done guys! What great driving. Sounded like 3-4 minor misshifts too? if so and for sure a sub 7 is possible which is insane as it's a h pattern manual! Love it guys! You are my heros.
or let Sabine take a crack at it...
This car should of had paddle shifting a long time ago. It would destroy record times on the ring.
I see many people talking about mi shifts, but that is not the case. Russ and crew only brought so much, 180,000 dollars does not go very far. But the problem with the last car is the transmission was screwed from 2nd to 3rd, and no extra, so they had to go for it. Tires were the biggest problem. They went through 16 sets of tires. That is a long bumpy track in places, and the soft compound tires would be smoking after a warm up lap. Things that happen when it's on a shoe string budget. factory support would have helped. The driver in this video had a 160MPH mash up in the other Viper because of the tires.
The whole point of a Viper is the manual. It's a 100% old school beast. Porsche had electric power boost, double clutch automatic. Of course the Viper would put up crazy numbers but it wouldn't be a Viper. You see Corvette have been testing over there all summer, 10 speed auto, horsepower, but still can't catch the viper.
+vin russo
To me, always a viper enthusiast, the whole point of the viper is to be a badass yet relatively affordable car. The point of the viper is to DESTROY.
That's why it needs a double clutch :)
Awesome!
I feel like Dodge needs to make one more ACR and make it really limited now that the hype for this car is at an all time high. The V10 has plenty of room for more power, but just some lighter parts for the car might really help it out and get a sub 6 minute lap time way easier.
It really cant get any lighter. The viper is still sporting a steel chassis that originates from the very first viper ever made. Chrysler was developing an aluminum chassis to replace it but mercedes came in and essentially stole it, made it ugly and slow and called it the SLS amg.
Being lighter doesn't help the car sell... The Viper and Corvette are stuck in limbo of it can't be priced too high ...
The car doesn't need more power. They could strap a supercharger to it, but they choose not to. It creates better track times.
Young Armani At ~3,400 lbs it is pretty light. A McClaren GT is ~3,200 lbs and is 2x the price.
Hopefully FCA will bring the Viper back
You don’t want the viper to come back trust me. To meet all the safety requirements it wouldn’t be the car we recognize and love today. Performance aside if it loses its curves and lines then it loses its soul.
Wow, the cornering speed on the Viper is outstanding. Great job!
This is the quickest manual car ever, and quite surprisingly it's American built :)
kudos to everyone who helped make this happen, it's a shame the car crashed
its not
@@hertzwave8001 It is even now in 2024.
@@supremegodemperordonaldtru3563 the porsche 956 is manual
Absolutely love this car. Building the Viper doesn't just inspire us auto enthusiasts, it inspires us as a nation!
I genuinely think there's Room for Improvement, We need to Revisit this
An amazing lap, no doubt, but it is visible that it could be better. There's potential for a sub-7 min lap there, that's for sure.
Igor Napol car tire blew up and crashed. The other viper had technical problems
Jaikar Chatha yeah, I just saw the picture on BTG. That's unfortunate. Hope these guys can put it together and maybe give it another go.
Yes, for sure. Maybe another 10 attempts and 20 crashes. LMAO.
BLT we all know you're just butthurt that Dale Lomas said this is his favourite car he has driven around the 'Ring.
Igor Napol Hell at one point or another he had it bouncing off the rev limited. I can almost guarantee that would free up at least a half a second alone.
I believe this time more so than the Lamborghini,Pagani, Ferrari, McLaren. Great Job Viper Team
Absolutely gorgeous, the driving is insane, and the editing/filming is perfect. Wonderful job guys.
Came here after watching Rimac Nevera's lap. Shows how great this car is.
Great driving, the corner entry speeds for such a big car are very impressive
Most interesting ring video in a long time... oldschool car with proper engine and manual gearbox ,,, hope they come back and try it again under 7 min is possible for this car for sure,,, btw is it the fasterst production car around ring with manual gearbox ?
Yes it is.
fastest RWD too
blueduster74 by 10 seconds I think
Radical is faster, Radicals biggest advantage compered to Viper is weight, that is also reason why tires can't hold up.
Radical isn't a production car.
Colin Fox is a wondrous and beautiful filmographer.
Farewell, Viper!
Good riddance.
Farewell?
Team Spintop production will be stopped
It’ll be back it’s not the first time the whipped off the face of the earth
idontcare80 someone's salty lol
OMG! Imagine sitting in the passenger seat of this incredibly fast car watching all the trees and other things zipping past you. I would love to be in that passenger seat of that Viper!
That would be one way to properly shit yourself...🤣.
Keep in mind that this was done in a manual which makes it even more impressive. I believe if this was paddle shift they might of been able to shave off a little more time. Very impressive
I dedicate this song to you VIper team "Kajiura Yuki - my long forgotten cloistered sleep" for 25 years of excellence in changing what the automotive marker thought of as fast.
Awesome. That's exciting. Amazing how well this car brakes.
The most impressive drive of the top ten street cars of the ring. No way was he on street tires though!
what are you talking about? He was Kumho factory tires, that was the whole point of crowd funding the car.Do you not know the story? This was the first time this guy had ever drivin the car also.
Bravo Dodge for the attempt! Excellent driving from the skilled driver!
God, I love that engine noise. I know not many people call it inspirational, but I’d beg to differ. V8’s are awesome, don’t get me wrong. But a V8 sounds like it’s going all out when it’s going all out. A Viper V10 has that bass that screams “GTFO of my way!” It’s deep and intimidating, and it’s one of the few V10’s that LOVES to rev. The Viper will always have a spot in my heart as my favorite in terms of sound.
If I could have only one one car for the rest of my life that would be it. Just so raw, hysterical, screaming in rage... A beast who's sorrow I could feast on to live the best experiences of my life. One day I will tame one and make it my devilish companion
This looks like a beautiful scenic racecourse!
❤️❤️❤️❤️🤯Manual transmision boom. I love this Car.
Absolutely thrilling! 😍😍😍👏👏👏
Breathtaking lap
What a beast! ;) I always liked the Viper, its iconic design.
People are complaining about misshifts and stuff, but in my book this dude drove really well and has some huge balls. I'm afraid to drive like that on friggin Assetto Corsa...
Consider this was not under great track conditions, that's quick. So close
acelerar um carro desse nessa pista igual esse cara fez se tá maluco, o cara toca muito e o carro é muito grip, o q eu faço no jogo esse cara fez na realidade, limite do limite👊👏👏👏
That driver is absolutely insane
What a beast !!!
Congrats dodge for the result.
It is an accepted fact that the transmission was quite rough and problematic.
Moving forward this vehicle is a beast on the track.
And you can drive it on the street.
I will not go too crazy here LO.L.
I had a cobra mustang.
Severely dropped to the ground.
Every chassis upgraded x 5
Stage 1, 2, 3 Kenne Belle installed.
Extra rectangular rails welded
Brembo 6 piston on all 4 wheels.
Brake boost / modulation.
Lower by far than ACR VIPER.
I Did not have the power or torque of the viper.
But I could hit corners and ramps as fast or faster than any vehicle at that time.
Only dude to ever stay close on 275 interstate ramp, was Viper.
30 mph ramp.
I was easily about 90 miles per hour.And I waved my hand out my window to tell him to slow down.
He got a little wiggly back-and-forth.But made it around the ramp and pulled up to me and said what the fuck is going on with your mustang
So much car to command around that track to begin with, let alone doing it with a manual gearbox.
It'll be interesting to see if the new ZR1 beats this. I suspect it might since it has 100 hp more and an automatic transmission option, but i doubt it will beat it by much. Congrats to you guys! I believe this is the fastest road legal front engine production car around the ring right now
It'll undoubtedly beat the Viper. While sad, we need to keep in mind that the Viper got that close to a sub 7 minute time on what were essentially warm up laps. GM has the money (ergo the time) to get a few more runs in. Giving them the time advantage Team Viper simply didn't have.
Unless they do another crowdfunding thing in 2017 (I'm praying they do), we'll never know what the true time of the ACR is.
in the same conditions, no. but I suspect GM will get the perfect day and beat the viper by a small margin. the ACR just has so much more grip than the corvette that itll definitely get a run for its money
Nope, it didn't
Viper. The last old school real street & race car.
oh,the viper i'ts a best v10 aspirated for me.. love so much.... congrats guys !!
My arms hurt just watching this.
Hell of a drive!
So fast it's scary! Great driving!
..Viper. can't believe all the brand x stuff ppl have bought instead, over the last quarter century. she's incomparable to look at & not just a pretty face. performance wise, she's the Queen. :'-) truly hope FCA brings Viper back.
Pleasure to watch this. Shame the Viper is out of production.
OMG, that was an exhilarating watch.
Not going to lie, this would absolutely terrify me. Through the foxhole was bonkers!
The very best in All American Too-Much-Ery
Watching all I wish is that the car got to go back. It’s definitely capable of sub 7 times
Awesome work, congrats
every single corner on the edge ... you got to have same balls!!!
How to shave 4 to 5 seconds with tiny change:
Since the competition is using tiptronic shifting the do not need to remove one hand from the steering wheel..
I can cleerly see a lartger steeri g wheel is needed.
I can clearly see the wheel and hand shake when shifting.
The larger wheel will enable finer control during shifts alowing for a gutzier performance from the driver!
Me a OSLM driver: “no one can outdrive me!!”
This guy: “About that”
Me: “Ok I’ll shut up”
do you have footage of the ACR that crashed?
Stay tuned for the full documentary
There's still some potential. I think a time around 6:58 would be possible, which would be equal to the time of the Porsche 918 Spyder. Same lap time for a 119.000$ car as a 845.000$ car. It seems like the whole hybrid concept for those hypercars (Porsche 918 Spyder, McLaren P1, La Ferrari) didn't work too well, if they're struggling to beat much cheaper cars. It's just too much extra weight.
And what was the time with the "street" legal splitter, not the "install only for track use" splitter? Can't pretend this time to be for "production"/Street legal cars. Because in this configuration it wasn't.
The driver is slowing the lap down with the weight of his massive balls.
hope the 2017 Viper ACR will be in Project Cars 2. so I can drive it on Nürburgring.
Street legal and almost into the 6 min range. Very impressive
Stunning!
What makes no sense to me was they knew the tires were an issue before they came back, why did they decide to come back in Aug??? Why didn't they wait until Oct. when track temps were much, much more favorable?
Imagine a turbo in this Beast:))
Check 2k+ HP Vipers, you can see how these monsters eating everything on the road
That guy can drive good on you mate
7:01 with missed shifts and fuckin' KUMHO tires? This things a beast. Get some proper tires on there.
Inb4 "Kumho tires are so good for the price!" Yeah, sure. But if you're setting lap times on the Nürburbring in a Viper ACR, you can afford some Michelin Cup 2's.
Damn, I don't think the coming zr1 is going to touch this.
God Save America I'd beg to differ. There is a reason it's been delayed.
i came here only for the max speed test at 6:25
And it's roughly 20 km/h slower than the others (Porsche, Lamborghini)
And to be honest the Porsche 911 GT3 RS hit something around 286-7 kph so Viper is comparable to it!
The McLaren is much faster on the top end
Nice Car, nice driving but can you please turn of the image stabilisation, it removes that natural feel of the video, thank you
6:58 is possible for this. But I don't think it can beat the Huracan.
In my eyes, the Dodge Viper ACR is an undefeated purist King on the Nurburgring!
Just goes to show that manual gearboxes still require skill to be perfect. If the ACR was paddle shifted, it would easily & consistently do sub 7 minute lap times. Very impressive to see such a quick time from a manual car, a great lap from the driver too. Definitely think a sub 7 minute lap would be possible with a perfect lap.
I thought they banned timed hot laps?
Respect ❤️❤️❤️💪💪💪
So proud of Dodge coming from a GM guy
Huracan performante still the best!
Yep but look at the prices.
The fastest and most capable race car ever built
Chevy❌
Ford🤣❌
Jdm❌
Exotic ❌
European❌
Dodge ✅
so capable it rivals Rimac Nevera which costs as much as Andrew Tate's quarterly bitcoin earnings, and weighs as much as 8x Steven Seagals after eating them Russian Desserts for being an EV hypercar might I add
I feel it could have did a 6:58
Viper more bang for the buck then all the rest. Production cars keeping up with hand built mega dollar cars.
Sequential Gearbox would have given that car at least another 8 seconds on a lap 6:53
Fastest manual, fastest front engined, and fastest RWD car (excluding Radical) round the 'Ring... Well done!
is the fastest RWD - radical isnt a production car
this could totally go under 7 mins, absolutely amazing for a street legal road car.
I'd've loaded my pants at the first attempt at a gear change on one of those corners!
They HAVE to make this car with a DCT if they want this to compete with Lamborghini's, Porsche's and Ferrari's.
I wonder what the lap time there is for Prius
half an hour probably
@@SuperGeronimo999 lol
these muscle cars, with a manual, at their limit, are made for few people. Very scary cars
Dodge Viper America’s super car.
Is it possible to take 20s to the track record?
I would love to have seen the Viper with an 8 speed dual clutch transmission just to see the time difference and a little more top end for those couple straights, I heard they actually had a faster time but blew one or two tires preventing them from trying again?? it's also too bad they are owned by the french who got rid of the Viper instead of marketing it to compete with the Corvette
Imagine this with a modern dct.
hope when the 6th gen comes out, I will have the money for it.
theyre not making any more vipers
Dang! almost in the 6's! those long straights are where the viper loses to the super-cars. The viper with all the downforce can only go around 170'ish, where the others obviously can hit 200 in a straight like these.
The Hurcan Perfromante did go over 190mph...it got to 304kph (just under 189mph).
ACR was slowed by the fact It was because the ran in 80 degree heat of the day on a july...after it was raining earlier...vs. The Lambo run which was done just before sun down in OCTOBER in 30