When F1 Drivers Raced the SAME CARS (And SENNA Won)

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  • @epicmoon8874
    @epicmoon8874 3 месяца назад +6357

    I think this should be a thing in every season in f1, everyone gets the same car, same tires no pitstops

    • @sierratango6574
      @sierratango6574 3 месяца назад +334

      Oh man!!!! That would be a great idea! I doubt FIA has the balls to do such a thing but that's how it should be done! ❤🏁

    • @thekingmansplainer6813
      @thekingmansplainer6813 3 месяца назад +162

      I know this might be such a American idea but that would be a fun idea for All-star race. Give it a million dollar prize pool put it at a fun circuit could become a classic event

    • @jaxxsparrow96
      @jaxxsparrow96 3 месяца назад +58

      @@thekingmansplainer6813 a 1million dollar prize for what? drive around? they dont get paid enough already

    • @dionv7391
      @dionv7391 3 месяца назад +40

      if u wanna see such a race just watch any other racing series

    • @chrisbee9643
      @chrisbee9643 3 месяца назад +58

      Zero manufacturer have interest in this. F1 is an advertisement show for them to showcase their engeneering craft...
      I hate the FIA as much as you do, but in this case its Red Bull, Merc, Ferrari and so on...
      Just look how they treat Andretti Autosport... Instead of making the competition closer, they want to keep it, how it is...
      You need to stop watching this crap and watch proper racing... V8 Supercars or Indycar for example...

  • @vinnycordeiro
    @vinnycordeiro 3 месяца назад +2445

    One thing that Scott didn't mention but you can read on Senna's biography written by Christopher Hilton: Senna was so committed to win this race that once he discovered what car model would be used, he rented a similar enough Mercedes model and drove it with a friend to a "practice" trip. It is said that it was enough to make Senna understand how the suspension worked, then on the race day he just had to make the adjustments necessary because of the car modifications.

    • @Driver61
      @Driver61  3 месяца назад +476

      Wow - excellent insight. Thanks for sharing!

    • @Butman28
      @Butman28 3 месяца назад +142

      I knew it! Senna was such a competitor I figured he would practice on a car. Full commitment!

    • @razgriz380
      @razgriz380 3 месяца назад +66

      So, he cheated by giving himself an unfair advantage. Kind of defeats the objective don't you think?

    • @HAbarneyWK
      @HAbarneyWK 3 месяца назад +261

      ​@@razgriz380how is it cheating? It wasn't against the rules. He just went the extra mile, the others apparently did not. It just shows his dedication.

    • @davids3539
      @davids3539 3 месяца назад +127

      @@HAbarneyWK True, but it voids this race as a comparison of drivers racing identical and unfamiliar machinery. Well, at least as a comparison between Senna and the others.
      These days we limit CFD and other forms of practice because obviously the more practice you get, the better you'll be, and the richer teams will be able to afford more testing. Obviously Senna has a massive advantage if he's taken the car for a test drive first.

  • @jorgrositzke7556
    @jorgrositzke7556 2 месяца назад +483

    I was there at the Nürburgring that cold day in may 1984. It was more than astonishing to see this young driver winning, and I am still happy that I could witness this great race!

    • @elessar5848
      @elessar5848 2 месяца назад +30

      You have had an experience and now a memory that money cannot buy. 👌🏻

    • @Gabrielnobre
      @Gabrielnobre 2 месяца назад +9

      You are a very lucky/blessed guy.

    • @Raphael198427
      @Raphael198427 Месяц назад +1

      Incrível, eu estava nascendo nesse mês, que privilégio meu amigo.

    • @troop-r
      @troop-r Месяц назад +2

      Lucky man you are

    • @ЕвгенийБатькович-б9ь
      @ЕвгенийБатькович-б9ь 29 дней назад

      я только родился в этом году)

  • @TopGLPD1987
    @TopGLPD1987 3 месяца назад +1982

    I’m Brazilian and I can tell you.. After Senna’s death 90% of the Brazilians stopped watching F1. He was bigger than football.

    • @KarmelukUstim
      @KarmelukUstim 3 месяца назад +114

      A.Senna was the greatest pilot and good man!!! Glory to the legend!!!

    • @jackringo9878
      @jackringo9878 3 месяца назад +111

      May 1, 1994 I stopped watching F1, too.

    • @grayrace7720
      @grayrace7720 3 месяца назад +64

      Brazilians also left the seating areas in Interlagos 1994 in big masses as Senna was out of the race.
      That shows me how quickly most Brazilians are getting emotionally hurt.

    • @MitosNãoKagghamNaSuaCabeça
      @MitosNãoKagghamNaSuaCabeça 3 месяца назад +94

      @@grayrace7720 If you're not Brazilian, you can't understand what his passing meant to his local fans.
      Anyway, it was a very sad moment, taking away their most important sportsman.

    • @Expressoraul
      @Expressoraul 3 месяца назад +5

      True!

  • @snack711
    @snack711 3 месяца назад +3535

    lauda climbing to 2nd sounds pretty impressive as well

    • @C0lon0
      @C0lon0 3 месяца назад +171

      With more laps he could get in first for how he was driving.

    • @cristian9365
      @cristian9365 3 месяца назад +146

      ​@@sergiobadaro7099some guys get really triggered with these words for some reason.
      It must be a psychological problem.

    • @C0lon0
      @C0lon0 3 месяца назад +136

      @@sergiobadaro7099 im a Senna fan, but you have to give credits to Lauda

    • @AbrahamdeLacy-xm8sb
      @AbrahamdeLacy-xm8sb 3 месяца назад +79

      My thinking as well. Lauda proved he was an awesome driver still.
      Cheers 🍺

    • @jimiverson3085
      @jimiverson3085 3 месяца назад +47

      @@AbrahamdeLacy-xm8sb
      He was World Champion that year, so it's not like he was over the hill.

  • @jcastillox
    @jcastillox 3 месяца назад +190

    No mention of remarkable Reutemann, performance, who came from 3 years of retirement and finished 3rd. Senna and Lauda were active, Lauda was champion same year.

    • @danielbroomhall8882
      @danielbroomhall8882 15 дней назад +1

      Yes, but Senna controlled the whole race from beginning to start leaving everyone else behind. He was the true goat.

  • @zanemurcha9742
    @zanemurcha9742 3 месяца назад +418

    Some back stories from this race.
    Alan Jones led the first few laps but his car died and gave Senna the lead.
    James Hunt kept cutting the first corners just because he wanted to.
    John Surtees liked his car so much he took the race smoothly as he wanted to keep it.
    The driver he refers to at 9:39 is Jody Sheckter who set the fastest lap.
    Although he did not race Juan Manuel Fangio did still attend this event and even demonstrated his 1955 Mercedes W196.
    The reason for the first two laps being missed was due to the President of the region of Germany delivering a prolonged speech.

    • @BobSaint
      @BobSaint 3 месяца назад +38

      😂 Of course Hunt would do something funny

    • @victor_2216
      @victor_2216 3 месяца назад +14

      Sounds like a bunch of excuses as to why a driver wouldn't try to win. It sounds much better to say that the driver "didn't take it serious" and thus he lost, compared to "the driver was not as good" and thus he lost.

    • @J5L5M6
      @J5L5M6 3 месяца назад +6

      Wonderful knowledge drop - thanks!

    • @StevenBenjaminAuthor
      @StevenBenjaminAuthor 3 месяца назад +4

      Yeah, Sheckter had a reputation before joining F1 as having a 'wild style' of driving... was effective tho

    • @NickTaylorRickPowers
      @NickTaylorRickPowers 3 месяца назад +5

      James Hunt was the man

  • @Richard-Gore
    @Richard-Gore 3 месяца назад +823

    My friend told me about this funny race a few days ago😂
    Prost the young driver was on pole in this "obviously just for fun race", but was soon pushed off the track by a e~ven younger driver. "Race for fun? No, I race for the win." His name is Aryton Senna.

    • @MahadShahzad08
      @MahadShahzad08 3 месяца назад +33

      Senna needed this opportunity to improve himself that's why he was so dedicated and was serious. Maybe this incident was the start of the rivalry between Senna and Prost

    • @xchromsx
      @xchromsx 3 месяца назад +22

      "If you no longer go for a gap which exists you are no longer a racing driver"

    • @ThaDutchDK1989
      @ThaDutchDK1989 3 месяца назад +18

      Senna crashed into Prost wich went off into the sand .everyone Always protecting Senna 🤮 Prost would’ve won otherwise I am sure ..

    • @tombaker6240
      @tombaker6240 3 месяца назад +28

      ​@@ThaDutchDK1989 That's correct. It's very funny how people says they are atonished about how Senna could won this race. "Nobody wanted this win as much as Senna", he says on the video. It should be that way. He pushed out of the track both Prost and Lauda. And the poor John Watson, who was storming through the track to win the race, had an engine failure. Senna wasn't at all the fastest. But people loves to think whatever they love to think, even against the timings and the reality.

    • @ozyfran72
      @ozyfran72 3 месяца назад +7

      And if I remember correctly, Marlboro asked Prost to bring Senna from the airport to the track together, first time they met

  • @DanBanYamYanHarishan
    @DanBanYamYanHarishan 2 месяца назад +57

    That kinda precision is not of this world. The man Senna keeps surprising me to this day...

    • @donaldduck830
      @donaldduck830 Месяц назад +2

      Senna surprised even himself. So precise in his steering, he once crashed his car at Monaco GP with a huge lead over the 2nd, empty track, nothing wrong with the car, he just steered it into the wall. Amazing.

  • @anegoro21
    @anegoro21 3 месяца назад +891

    SENNA was a true legend.

    • @ssenssel
      @ssenssel 3 месяца назад +7

      Because I've started watching F1 in 1978 as a "wee lad" here in Brazil I immediately become a Nelson Piquet fan, who won his first of 3 Championship titles in 1980, and due to the rivalry that developed in the mid to late 80s between him and Ayrton Senna I've never liked the latter.. The truth is that I was in denial for most of my life of how brilliant Senna was. He is the GOAT of race car driving, a perfectionist. And Nelson.. well, he become a j0ke of a p3rson really.

    • @allmotorkris1
      @allmotorkris1 3 месяца назад +11

      Still is a legend

    • @DanBanYamYanHarishan
      @DanBanYamYanHarishan 2 месяца назад +5

      Is...

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 2 месяца назад +2

      The thing that made Senna a legend was he died before that he was the most hated driver on the track he rammed into everybody on the track that tried to pass

    • @Heavren
      @Heavren 2 месяца назад

      Ok

  • @SaschaPallenberg
    @SaschaPallenberg 3 месяца назад +152

    I used to work for Daimler and probably one of the most amazing experiences was to visit our classic collection which includes Ayrton's 190 from this race.... Still have the photos of me sitting in it!

    • @AndyFromBeaverton
      @AndyFromBeaverton 3 месяца назад +3

      My dad used to own the 109E 16v with all the body skirts. It was a fun car to drive.

    • @Bizmyurt
      @Bizmyurt 3 месяца назад +1

      @@AndyFromBeaverton ofcourse all body work, without they were 8v.

    • @RST-R-MODS
      @RST-R-MODS 3 месяца назад

      @@Bizmyurt ,but the all have the same suspencion geometry,even the diesel versions.

  • @calebamore
    @calebamore Месяц назад +45

    Seems pretty clear the Senna was the best ever

  • @paulf9487
    @paulf9487 3 месяца назад +857

    Peak Senna and peak Schumacher in identical machinery would have been amazing, especially having the two rain masters together in a wet race.

    • @bagpussmacfarlan9008
      @bagpussmacfarlan9008 3 месяца назад +49

      Yep, what a shame we never got to see them really battle it out 😢

    • @NexuJin
      @NexuJin 3 месяца назад +49

      @SophiaLiechtenstein Some day, some where, some one will use machine learning and AI to collect all the data about a drivers personal techniques based on video footages and other material and recreate a virtual driving avatar that you can race against or have them race against each other.

    • @NuSuntRaresh
      @NuSuntRaresh 3 месяца назад +1

      @SophiaLiechtensteinthought she was one of those onlyfans bots

    • @ondrejkratochvil4589
      @ondrejkratochvil4589 3 месяца назад +97

      You mean like the 1993 Donington, where Schumacher qualified third with Senna just .1s behind him, only for Senna to do one of the legendary drives of all time (in the end laping everybody but P2), while Schumacher spun out in lap 22? :)

    • @RyChu05_Pleasing05
      @RyChu05_Pleasing05 3 месяца назад +12

      @@ondrejkratochvil4589I thought its not identical cars, Schumi had a better car then?

  • @TheTripol
    @TheTripol 3 месяца назад +138

    Lauda came from 14th to 2nd with barely any practise previously, or none at all. And was actually catching Senna finishing 1.5sec behind.
    Wish there was more races like this with equal, not so powerful road cars for example, would be amazing to see the current grid head to head like that

    • @marcioaguiar1985
      @marcioaguiar1985 3 месяца назад +13

      Have in mind that Senna had only 4 races in F1 at that time, he was just a rookie while Lauda was already a world champion

    • @ThaDutchDK1989
      @ThaDutchDK1989 3 месяца назад +9

      Have in mind this 190e isn’t a F1 car 🤦‍♂️😂

    • @marcioaguiar1985
      @marcioaguiar1985 3 месяца назад +9

      @@ThaDutchDK1989 When I said to have in mind that Senna had only 4 races and Lauda was already a champion, it is to show the huge difference in experience between them. It doesn't matter if they are racing in F1 or any other car, experience counts.

    • @CowboyManMusic
      @CowboyManMusic 3 месяца назад +13

      Well nothing against SENNA - a master - BUT THE REAL STORY IS: Nik Lauda was not doing practicing or qualifying! Niki started from 15th (fifteen!) place - and was ONLY 1,5 SECONDS BEHIND SENNA THEN AT THE FINISH! IN THE RAIN! ON THE CIRBUIT OF NEAR-DEATH OF NIKI!!! So the speaker here is saying just "nearby" that Lauda started from 15th. SO NIKI WAS THE SENSATION TOTALLY OF THIS RACE! AND PLEASE DON´T FORGET TO MENTION AS WELL: IN 1979 they have already the same cars: The BMW M1 Pro Car Series! And Niki Lauda won the season! Amen!

    • @palmito22
      @palmito22 3 месяца назад +4

      Imagine how many hours the Austrian pilot have driven the German car in his life…

  • @jackalmete
    @jackalmete 2 месяца назад +110

    Senna is a legend, but coming from 14 to 2 shows how ambitious Lauda is. I'm sure Hunt was one of the people having fun in the back 😂

    • @donaldduck830
      @donaldduck830 Месяц назад +2

      Schuhmacher once won a race when he started from 15 or 16. These are the three greatest drivers: Fangio, Lauda, Schuhmacher.
      Senna is legendary as a crash pilot. I still remember when he crashed his car in Monaco: Nobody near him, empty track, huge lead over the second, car was fine, but he crashed.

    • @skrattaoppar9753
      @skrattaoppar9753 Месяц назад

      Bro James is just blasting his radio if the organizers didn't remove it.

    • @GianWarGasm
      @GianWarGasm Месяц назад +9

      @@donaldduck830 Almost all F1 drivers say Senna is the best ever F1 driver, a legend. But you sir know more than all of them right? The guy who never raced professionally, never took a corner in a formula car.

    • @donaldduck830
      @donaldduck830 Месяц назад +1

      @@GianWarGasm BS. All F1 drivers said during the 20th century that Fangio was the greatest and during the 21st it is split between Schuhmacher and Hamilton.

    • @GianWarGasm
      @GianWarGasm Месяц назад +3

      @@donaldduck830 guess what, Senna aint 21st so that point is invalid. No most of them say Senna is the legend of the sport, you sadly are just of hater of Senna. Yeah Fangio was incredible but because of the decades he raced in he is very forgotten because of lack of footage and things like that. Senna was different and everyone knows that, and he also raced in the peak of F1 (80s-90s)

  • @2airvette3
    @2airvette3 3 месяца назад +33

    if anything else was to be said or proven about Ayrton Senna, I think this was it.... I´ve just loved to see a young Fangio competing against him to see what happened, but it is clear that no other driver came or comes close to Ayrton still today. the way he understood the machine, made it perform to its absolute limit and his unparallel desire to win, made him the best pilot of all times.

  • @Itsallfun3000
    @Itsallfun3000 3 месяца назад +385

    This was an epic event. I wish stuff like this happened now but it would never be allowed

    • @rigel8755
      @rigel8755 3 месяца назад +27

      People are dying over a driver being prohibided of playing games at home, because he threw a hissy fit at the race.
      Driving seriously out of the championship set can never happen indeed. I don't even know how most drivers were allowed to drive at Goodwood reccently.
      Ironically, the safest place for them to compete is in F1 lol.

    • @Itsallfun3000
      @Itsallfun3000 3 месяца назад +13

      @rigel8755 it's not the games itself, it's the concern over lack of sleep I would think

    • @rigel8755
      @rigel8755 3 месяца назад +6

      @@Itsallfun3000 Exactly, if the people responsible for him were concerned about lack of sleep, there's no way they would even consider letting him compete outside of F1. These guys can't even eat a big mac ffs. It's babysitting at its finnest.

    • @Itsallfun3000
      @Itsallfun3000 3 месяца назад +8

      @@rigel8755 😅 I tell you something. Piastri and the gang celebrated his first win by going to McDonald's. They discussed it on midweek motorsport last week

    • @AndyFromBeaverton
      @AndyFromBeaverton 3 месяца назад +8

      And some of the drivers' egos prevent them from competing.

  • @EcoPolyglot
    @EcoPolyglot Месяц назад +38

    Ayrton Senna was one of the greatest Formula 1 drivers the world has ever seen an amazing person and a true champion

    • @igorferrer949
      @igorferrer949 Месяц назад +4

      THE BEST

    • @phantom213
      @phantom213 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@igorferrer949 the most naturally talented and fast for sure.

    • @sidneygpaiva_sgp
      @sidneygpaiva_sgp 21 день назад +1

      He was the BEST

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 21 день назад

      Senna may have created the Most Dhupala, he sure was not the best driver. Schumacher or Jim Clark would have handed Senna his ass. Oh that is right Schumacher did hand Senna his ass.

    • @danielbroomhall8882
      @danielbroomhall8882 16 дней назад

      @@mylanmiller9656 that's not true....Senna always did way better than Schumi...in 1994 and 1995, Senna started the year badly, but would have beaten Schumi anyway till the end.

  • @PinkAsAPistol
    @PinkAsAPistol 3 месяца назад +126

    The organizers were thinking how cool it would be for someone like Lauda to win and for them to put his car to the museum. Imagine the bummer when they saw that the museum car would bear the name of a Brazilian that nobody knew.

    • @Halbi1987
      @Halbi1987 3 месяца назад +4

      Or Häkkinin and Senna... oh wait that happened, and Senna did not like it.

  • @Mart77
    @Mart77 3 месяца назад +230

    I think nowdays Top Gear's "Reasonably priced car" was the only opportunity to see F1 drivers driving the same car.

    • @Felix-st2ue
      @Felix-st2ue 3 месяца назад +47

      Yes, but with the conditions being all over the place, it's somewhat misleading.

    • @zef9151
      @zef9151 3 месяца назад +16

      As much as I love the trio Top Gear was never supposed to be taken seriously. But I do agree it is the closest thing we'll ever get with driver contracts getting more and more complicated

    • @alxx26
      @alxx26 3 месяца назад +5

      Race of champions still a thing seach it up ..but most current drivers have to much ego to go there..but some did vettel ,kubica,and others champion like jimmy johnson or sebastien loeb it hapoen every year around december

    • @KuryRice
      @KuryRice 3 месяца назад +5

      I agree. The last f1 driver was Daniel Riccardo who was .7 seconds faster than 2nd place, Lewis Hamilton. However, Ben Collin, the Stig, did say the last corner was heavily changed at some point which allowed for faster times. The doesn’t take away from Daniel’s sick oversteer entry into the 2nd to last corner.

    • @vdochev
      @vdochev 3 месяца назад +1

      But it's just a show, so they aren't driving seriously.

  • @stevetheodore_specialtycars
    @stevetheodore_specialtycars 3 месяца назад +12

    Senna Sempre! The day he died I can definitely say the world lost some of its luster for me, as I couldn't conceive of that fate for him. He was my favorite F1 driver by the largest margin I could ever describe.

  • @AndyFromBeaverton
    @AndyFromBeaverton 3 месяца назад +123

    In the 90's and early 00's, the drivers would get together for karting events.

    • @iasonasboidanis3622
      @iasonasboidanis3622 3 месяца назад +7

      Now they have 24 races and 6 sprints

    • @T0mPickles
      @T0mPickles 3 месяца назад +6

      @@iasonasboidanis3622not to mention the insane levels of professionalism that has taken over the sport.

    • @Felix-st2ue
      @Felix-st2ue 3 месяца назад +2

      Last year, there was a picture of Max's family's timing sheet from the cart track. So at least sometimes something like that happens.

    • @joeyhfld
      @joeyhfld 3 месяца назад +1

      Also late 70s you had the bmw m1 procar cup wich had a mix of (ex) f1 drivers and rich af gentleman drivers

    • @framegrace1
      @framegrace1 3 месяца назад

      Yeah, they seemed to have lots of fun. Karts are more similar to F1 too. It's not done anymore? I remember one before a race where they all ran with the same kart, Shumacher, Alonso, Raikonen.... (Well, I think, memories fade away)

  • @panosvougiou
    @panosvougiou 3 месяца назад +1091

    Lauda climbing from 14th to 2nd place, without practice, past his prime, sounds way more impressive to me.

    • @uncannysnake
      @uncannysnake 3 месяца назад +185

      While that is true, the "past his prime" part is not true. Lauda won the WDC in 1984, same year as that race

    • @gnubbolo
      @gnubbolo 3 месяца назад +86

      @@uncannysnake Lauda was on average 1 second per lap slower than Prost in 1984.
      10 years earlier he was on average faster than ALL the drivers by half a second per lap.
      in 1973 at Nurb, driving a piece of junk, he qualified with an 8 second advantage over his two teammates, a monster.

    • @uncannysnake
      @uncannysnake 3 месяца назад +29

      @@gnubbolo So your argument is "was still the best but not just as good anymore, so not in his prime". Fair enough

    • @mprece
      @mprece 3 месяца назад +2

      @@gnubbolo yes but at end is 0.5 upper Prost... it's the final result that counts
      and anyway it was slower in testing not in the race

    • @galaxyspro4791
      @galaxyspro4791 3 месяца назад +33

      Senna wins lauda in same car in every era, lauda is really god but Senna on some races is almost invencible

  • @alexandrlyan1591
    @alexandrlyan1591 2 месяца назад +48

    Сенна - величайший гонщик на все времена! Светлая память чемпиону

    • @FernandoYott-ux1ke
      @FernandoYott-ux1ke Месяц назад +1

      Fangio fue el más grande,ya lo dijeron los mayores analistas

    • @tonytrivinogavilan6903
      @tonytrivinogavilan6903 Месяц назад +7

      Nosotros somos libres de dar nuestro parecer. Lo que diga un analista me da igual.

    • @DiegoCajias
      @DiegoCajias Месяц назад

      De acuerdo

    • @SHAMANN7777
      @SHAMANN7777 Месяц назад +4

      Я перестал смотреть формулу после гибели Сенны.

    • @СтаниславСмеркалов
      @СтаниславСмеркалов 15 дней назад +1

      ​@@SHAMANN7777я пытался смотреть, но ничего не вышло, без Сенны - это оказался достаточно скучный вид спорта....

  • @rreif5934
    @rreif5934 3 месяца назад +50

    They did several multi-race seasons of the Procar championship in '79 and '80 where they used BMW M1 cars. Lauda won the first season and Nelson Piquet won the second.

    • @CowboyManMusic
      @CowboyManMusic 3 месяца назад +10

      Well nothing against SENNA - a master - BUT THE REAL STORY IS: Nik Lauda was not doing practicing or qualifying! Niki started from 15th (fifteen!) place - and was ONLY 1,5 SECONDS BEHIND SENNA THEN AT THE FINISH! IN THE RAIN! ON THE CIRBUIT OF NEAR-DEATH OF NIKI!!! So the speaker here is saying just "nearby" that Lauda started from 15th. SO NIKI WAS THE SENSATION TOTALLY OF THIS RACE! AND PLEASE DON´T FORGET TO MENTION AS WELL: IN 1979 they have already the same cars: The BMW M1 Pro Car Series! And Niki Lauda won the season! Amen!

    • @danielbroomhall8882
      @danielbroomhall8882 15 дней назад

      @@CowboyManMusic 1.5 second is a lot of time when it comes to racing....Senna had just started in F1 and won against Lauda, the current champ. That's by far, way more impressive than Lauda finishing at second.

  • @ldarm
    @ldarm 3 месяца назад +89

    I've always considered Lauda's performance during that race to be incredible. Top driver.

  • @fedexweb
    @fedexweb 2 месяца назад +62

    Juan Manuel Fangio was already an old man for that race, but he had already shown that he could win with any car (Alfa Romeo, Maserati, Mercedes, Ferrari), something that was never repeated again in the history of F1.

    • @dmitripetrenko4999
      @dmitripetrenko4999 2 месяца назад +7

      There is nobody like El Maestro.

    • @frankcousins7655
      @frankcousins7655 2 месяца назад +1

      He was a great driver but he would take his team mates car if he damaged his own

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 2 месяца назад +4

      Fangio was just like Senna, a team jumper he Run whatever car was best that year, He was a winning driver so when he wanted a ride they would give him a car. If you are in the best car it is not hard for a good driver to win.

    • @LuisAbe-r7o
      @LuisAbe-r7o Месяц назад

      @@mylanmiller9656 You have not discovered the gunpowder. with your phrase. All teams have driver one and driver 2. Driver one is always the best on the team.

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 Месяц назад +1

      @@LuisAbe-r7o yes I seen that when Prost and Senna where on team McClaren. IT was not who was the best driver it was, the Japanese had a favorite driver, they would give Senna engines that t had more power because they wanted him to win. It was proven in the Mexico GP, when Prost was up to race speed and senna Came out of the pit and passed Prost on the first straight.

  • @Driftuner
    @Driftuner 3 месяца назад +217

    The story with the barrier moving 5mm causing him to crash gave me goosebumps

    • @superfoxbat
      @superfoxbat 3 месяца назад +10

      Watching him driving in suzuka is amazing how could he make such a heavy car bouncing like a go cart ruclips.net/video/vKLywfzi0xU/видео.htmlsi=2YbJD52aHuxbmAiG&t=84

    • @TheColinChapman
      @TheColinChapman 3 месяца назад +22

      the story sounds impressive, but leaves out that he already had spun several laps before and was running dead last anyway.

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz 3 месяца назад +25

      Some race drivers are that way. There's a story in an interview with Walter Röhrl in some rallye 40 years ago.
      He can still describe to you the way to the corner with a concrete wall they went close to every year and in which year at which weather ect. a spectator sat there dangling his feet down there where the nose of the car would have been.
      He was angry at the guy because he had to change the line to not hit his feet.

    • @HarcM.
      @HarcM. 3 месяца назад +4

      They went to the spot after he crashed. Most likely he himself was the cause of the moved barrier.

    • @coolcat23
      @coolcat23 3 месяца назад +9

      I call BS on the story of the wall hitting him instead of him hitting the wall, regardless of tyre temperature, rubber on the track, brake condition, amount of fuel in the tank, etc. If he was so precise, why didn't he see the wall not being in its original place? I realise that he probably used a different landmark to decide when to start braking, but he would have to hit that with more than millimetre precision to be that precise within the corner. I have no trouble accepting that some drivers can be astoundingly precise, but get a ruler out and check what distance four millimetre are (surely, he had left a millimetre to spare to the wall before it allegedly moved by five millimetres). Yeah, not buying it.

  • @chicobicalho5621
    @chicobicalho5621 3 месяца назад +116

    That same year, a few months before, I witnessed a bit of "F1 history" for I was standing 2 meters from Senna's Toleman at the pits in the now defunct Jacarepaguá circuit in Rio for the 1984 tyre tests done in January, when he engaged first hear and left the pit for his very first F1 drive in Brazil. Coincidentally Emerson Fittipaldi was also there, for his last F1 drive, in a weird car with a Mickey Mouse livery. I also withessed a bit of history with Fittipaldi, for I saw when he did his very first lap in a F1 car in Brazil on a Lotus 72 in the non championship race at Interlagos in 1972. It was amazing that he was driving the fastest and most advanced F1 of the time in "his" circuit, where only a few years before he had been racing adapted road cars.

    • @allanhughes7859
      @allanhughes7859 3 месяца назад +12

      My claim to fame is Stewart running over my foot in the 6 wheeler when I managed to get a press pass from a friend. It was only a show thing where he was demonstrating it for a commercial.. It still hurt my bloody foot and he did not say sorry !!! L.O.L.........

    • @KayoMichiels
      @KayoMichiels 3 месяца назад +5

      Defunct? You mean demolished for the Olympics...

    • @ronpinto9588
      @ronpinto9588 3 месяца назад +5

      I remember Fittipaldi testing/showing off the Lotus Golden Leaf in Interlagos one year before the first F1 race there. I was listening on the Jovem Pan and laughing at the announcer enthusiasm over the car breaking the track record with each lap, breaking the previous lap's record each time. I believe the announcer was Fittipaldi's dad.

    • @rexmangham9164
      @rexmangham9164 3 месяца назад +1

      Emmerson Fittipaldi was driving in F1 in 1970. He won the 1970 USA Grand Prix after the death of Jochen Rindt at Monza.

    • @hsiman1
      @hsiman1 2 месяца назад +3

      Boa tarde Chico, tudo bem com você? Rapaz, incrível... Eu estava presente nestes testes de pneus em Jacarepaguá. Lembro do Emerson testando a topollino, a Spirit honda iniciando na F1 ainda com um carro base F2 e Senna e Cecotto na Toleman. Foi um dia inesquecível, tenho um anuário do Francisco Santos com assinatura que quase todos os pilotos que participaram, e também do Kenn Tyrrell e Jean Sage, engenheiro da Renault. Consegui uma breve conversa com Senna (na parada do almoço) e logicamente seu autógrafo que guardo com carinho. Dia fantástico, grande abraço.

  • @Carli1962
    @Carli1962 2 месяца назад +13

    Senna 1ro. Lauda 2do. Reuteman 3ro. Luego de estar más de 2 años retirado del automovilismo, grande el Lole.

  • @Goneforgood81
    @Goneforgood81 3 месяца назад +46

    Omg this reminds me why I used to wake up whatever time on Sunday morning to watch Senna racing and the passion for racing he had.

    • @evoluitech
      @evoluitech Месяц назад +1

      I too, He was The Best!

  • @abc5228
    @abc5228 3 месяца назад +89

    I never was a Senna fan. But he was, indeed, the best racing driver ever.

    • @yegorlyozoff310
      @yegorlyozoff310 3 месяца назад +1

      Looks closer to Lauda

    • @sandmonkey1243
      @sandmonkey1243 3 месяца назад +3

      sounds like you are one now.

    • @fejuncor
      @fejuncor 3 месяца назад +7

      @@yegorlyozoff310 Lauda at his prime was near Senna's level. Schumacher and Senna are the best ever

    • @lecosan2008
      @lecosan2008 2 месяца назад

      The best.

    • @frankcousins7655
      @frankcousins7655 2 месяца назад

      He only won two titles, that surely proves otherwise

  • @ziggyplay
    @ziggyplay Месяц назад +4

    This race, and this type of competition, is by far much more interesting and fun than the usual races we are used to. This should become the norm!

  • @ADadasadasdadw
    @ADadasadasdadw 3 месяца назад +18

    I wonder how many of the current F1 drivers would be willing to participate in a same-car race like this.

  • @LincoM88DO
    @LincoM88DO 3 месяца назад +200

    Senna was a Unique Pilot, he was ahead of his time for sure.

    • @tritont370
      @tritont370 3 месяца назад +4

      faster, but not the best f1 pilot, 1988 belong to prost, he was better, and score more points,
      faster its not same to be a pilot
      Prost was out in 1992 because of worst ferrari f1 in 1991

    • @florencemodina6293
      @florencemodina6293 3 месяца назад +42

      ​@@tritont370senna was voted by 217 f1 drivers as the greatest driver of all time...deal with it tutt...😊

    • @florencemodina6293
      @florencemodina6293 3 месяца назад

      ​@@tritont370Senna was voted as the greatest driver of all time by 217 f1 drivers....so he is the best...you can google it.

    • @Karincl7
      @Karincl7 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@tritont370the french era

    • @rafinha4376
      @rafinha4376 3 месяца назад +4

      @@tritont370 1989 belong to Senna!

  • @RenatoNRamos
    @RenatoNRamos 3 месяца назад +8

    I don't know what I'm happier about, this excellent video or knowing that there is an audio track in Portuguese!! Congratulations on the amazing work! Having this track in the 'The Drivers University' playlist would be incredible! Best regards from Brazil. Renato"

  • @ramadhanisme7
    @ramadhanisme7 3 месяца назад +66

    Senna obviously star of this race but man lauda is on another whole level, finishing 2nd at his age can't imagine if he got the qualified race and battle senna

    • @ingoweber1406
      @ingoweber1406 3 месяца назад +6

      And Rosberg from 17th to 4th!

    • @uncannysnake
      @uncannysnake 3 месяца назад +9

      Lauda actually won the WDC in the same year (1984), which was amazing as well! Man of two eras

    • @azaph_yt
      @azaph_yt 3 месяца назад +9

      Niki Lauda was only 35 at the time. Tho the facial scaring made him look older.

    • @gnubbolo
      @gnubbolo 3 месяца назад +6

      @@azaph_yt he had serious kidney and lung problems, obviously he wasn't so stupid to make them public otherwise the sponsors would have dumped him. his stamina compared to a healthy driver was halved. Turbocharged cars demanded a lot from the body.

    • @tombaker6240
      @tombaker6240 3 месяца назад +2

      Actually, he did. When overtaking Senna, the brazilian, as he always did all long during his career with whoever driver tried to overtake him, hit Lauda out of the track.

  • @Schuey_M
    @Schuey_M 3 месяца назад +59

    Nice video Scott. But those 190E’s weren’t any ordinary 190E’s, they were the special 190E 2.3-16v cars, engines Mercedes developed in partnership with Cosworth. This was the car Mercedes developed to take the fight to BMW’s mighty M3 in the German DTM Championship.
    So these were very special 190E’s and prices of these cars today highlight that. A Mercedes 190E Cosworth back in the day was basically a Super Saloon. 😎

    • @BenjaminRowe-hc7uo
      @BenjaminRowe-hc7uo 3 месяца назад +9

      Too right mate,I worked on them at Mercedes Benz, absolutely beautiful cars,they had special colour coded aero kits,hot 2.3lt eng's and g/boxes and suspension etc.The Cosworth Merc 190's sounded great as well and they went really quick also.I think they were about $15-20 grand($au) over a standard 190 Merc.A great car with no Mercedes Cosworth or modern equivalent type of Sports car made by them now!🇦🇺🫡

    • @Schuey_M
      @Schuey_M 3 месяца назад +6

      @@BenjaminRowe-hc7uo Hey mate, thanks for sharing your experience working on those engines. Hopefully you had plenty of chances to get the cars out on a road test back in the day. Absolutely loved them and would love to have one in my dream garage! 😎

    • @yourtraining9709
      @yourtraining9709 3 месяца назад

      суперседан с 185лс? )))) хонда интегра тех годов выдавала 200 с 1.8. сивик 160 с 1.6. а ехали они куда интереснее. тойота левин 1.6 170 сил, 6.5 до сотни ))))

    • @MrSteveo114
      @MrSteveo114 3 месяца назад +4

      Yeah it actually annoyed me when he made out that they were just ordinary 190E’s with some “modifications” when they were anything but🤣 They were 190E Cosworths, BMW M3 competitors so they were a mighty performance car to begin with for the standard of the day.

    • @yourtraining9709
      @yourtraining9709 3 месяца назад

      @@BenjaminRowe-hc7uo суперседан с 185лс? )))) хонда интегра тех годов выдавала 200 с 1.8. сивик 160 с 1.6. а ехали они куда интереснее. тойота левин 1.6 170 сил, 6.5 до сотни ))))

  • @devita73ful
    @devita73ful 2 месяца назад +40

    Senna best racing driver of all times.

    • @donaldduck830
      @donaldduck830 Месяц назад +1

      Lulz. He won the championship in a superior car and when all the "electronic driver assistance" stuff was banned, he could not keep his car on the road anymore.
      My sister is a better driver than Senna.

    • @srsr2771
      @srsr2771 Месяц назад +3

      @@donaldduck830 ok grandma, now go back to bed, you are delirious😂

    • @danielbroomhall8882
      @danielbroomhall8882 15 дней назад +1

      @@donaldduck830 what a joke, Senna is a true legend....he won against everyone and everything...the fact that he was also from Brazil, only make things way harder for him. Schumi, Prost, Lauda etc had a way easier path to get to a better car.

    • @donaldduck830
      @donaldduck830 15 дней назад

      @@danielbroomhall8882 delulu
      Lots of great racers from Brazil (Fittipaldi, Piquet). Schumi had a more difficult path. Lauda had to work real hard to even get a chance at a cockpit (watch "Rush").
      And Senna did not win against everyone.
      Senna won when he had the best car.
      Verstappen's win last weekend with an inferior car is impressive. Winning a Nascar race with equal cars is impressive. Winning with a car a monkey could win in... NOT impressive.

  • @lukewood2662
    @lukewood2662 3 месяца назад +51

    We don't have much stories like these about the other GOATs, or do we? Senna takes the top spot for me. Literally legendary.

    • @mikekadlcak1963
      @mikekadlcak1963 3 месяца назад

      There was the Jochen Rindt era ... and the F3 fixed cars. Nicky Laudas Idol.

    • @felipeaugusto6472
      @felipeaugusto6472 2 месяца назад +1

      Senna, legend...goat

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 21 день назад

      Senna was not even the best of his time let alone the best ever. Prost was better than Senna and a lot easier on his Car. Niki Lauda and Clark where a cut above Senna and Schumacher handed Senna his ass.

    • @danielbroomhall8882
      @danielbroomhall8882 15 дней назад

      @@mylanmiller9656 You gotta be joking haha, Senna was the best of his time for sure. His precision and skill were amazing, he did not win many more titles cuz he was not European like the others and had to prove himself countless times.

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 13 дней назад

      @@danielbroomhall8882 Senna was a driver that Drove over his head, that is why He crashed.
      if Senna was not in the best car he wouldn't have been anything Special Senna drove a lot like Villeneuve, the end results turned out to be the same.

  • @felipetartasics
    @felipetartasics 3 месяца назад +72

    Senna drove by feeling, he felt the car like no one else, which is why he adapted so quickly to any car and any scenario.

    • @fablewalls
      @fablewalls 3 месяца назад +2

      Spending a couple of days practicing before the race in a similar model Mercedes also helped....

    • @Vitor_Ribeiro00
      @Vitor_Ribeiro00 3 месяца назад +4

      @@fablewallsStill the most talented. Stop the hate on him.

    • @fablewalls
      @fablewalls 3 месяца назад +3

      @@Vitor_Ribeiro00 How is that hate? Facts are not hate.

    • @kevinprengemann7456
      @kevinprengemann7456 3 месяца назад +3

      @@fablewallsSenna fans always quickly get offended if you say even the slightest thing against their "god", even when its facts.

  • @KainedbutAble123
    @KainedbutAble123 Месяц назад +9

    One of the best Senna stories 11:40

  • @geoffnelson4777
    @geoffnelson4777 3 месяца назад +10

    I'd like to add some details to this event if I may. 11-12 May 1984. Ca. 90,000 spectators. Top six qualifiers were Prost, Reutemann, Senna, Hulme, Jones and Watson. "A few drivers, including Laffite, missed practice". The 'local drivers to fill the gaps? Hans Hermann, Klaus Ludwig ('78 'Ring 1000K winner w/Heyer/Hezemans), Manfred Schurti ('79 1000K winner w/Wollek/Fitzpatrick) and Udo Schutz ('67 1000K winner w/Buzzetta). Race results: Senna, Lauda, Reutemann, Rosberg, Watson, Hulme, Scheckter, Brabham, Ludwig, Hunt, Surtees, Hill, Schurti, Moss, Prost, Laffite, Hermann, de Angelis, Jones and Schutz. As part of a "Ford - Sixty Years of Racing History" exhibition a '73 Tyrrell-Ford w/Tom Wheatcroft and a '84 IMSA Mustang were featured. Johnny Cecotto demonstrated a BMW bike, Hermann Lang demonstrated a '54 Benz W154, Marc Surer a '84 Arrows-BMW, Manfred Winkelhock a '83 Brabham-BMW. As part of 'Auto Motor und Sport's' exhibits, a '62 Porsche ('61 French GP winner), a Benz W196 and an Auto Union V-16 were featured. Fangio was listed as demonstrating a '27 Benz sports car.

  • @PocketUau
    @PocketUau 3 месяца назад +34

    To shorten 14 minutes, Senna was smooth and precise, which helped him win.

  • @ChrisKurak
    @ChrisKurak 3 месяца назад +4

    It should be noted that Senna was not using his wipers or lights, while the drivers behind him were. The slightly reduced load on the alternator would provide a slight HP advantage. This does not take anything away from Senna's smooth driving, but speaks to his deep understanding of cars. Another advantage of being in the lead.

  • @twitchsheinz
    @twitchsheinz 3 месяца назад +26

    When top gear asked some F1 drivers who was their #1 driver, a lot of them picked Senna including Schumacher, Alonso, Barrichello, etc... I wonder what kind of insight they had to make that choice.
    This video scratches my itch a little, but I think it's just the tip of the iceberg!

    • @johnkluge3421
      @johnkluge3421 3 месяца назад +3

      He was their favorite because they were kids when he was at his peak. He is a childhood hero. Guys in the 80s would have said Clark or Stewart. Guys in the 60s and 70s would have said Fangio or Moss.

    • @twitchsheinz
      @twitchsheinz 3 месяца назад +5

      @@johnkluge3421 what about jeremy clarkson who said his favorite was gilles villeneuve before making the video, but then changed to senna after having to research all the footage? Not to mention all of the people who worked with him like gordon murray etc? they were not kids. Regardless, they all obviously know things we don't about racing, their pick will never be as simplistic as of a normal spectator

    • @johnkluge3421
      @johnkluge3421 3 месяца назад +1

      @@twitchsheinz I disagree with Clarkson. I am a huge Senna fan but I don't think he is the best ever. Part of that is not his fault. He drove in an era where F1 drivers were largely not allowed to drive in other series. So, guys like Clark, Stewart, and Fangio accomplished things across motorsport that Senna didn't. They also raced in things like the Targa and the Miglia Milia that were levels of difficulty and danger beyond anything that could occur in Senna's time let alone today. Beyond that Clarkson puts too much emphasis on being quick. Villeneuve was amazingly quick but also incredibly hard on his cars and reckless to the point of getting himself killed. That is why he never won World Title. As quick as he was, he didn't have the consistency and wasn't easy enough on his cars while being quick to win in the long run. Senna was much better in that regard than Villeneuve and is much higher on the list of greatest drivers in my opinion as a result. I have a hard time putting him, number 1, however. If Senna is 1, then Prost is 1A or a very close 2. Prost beat Senna in the same car in 1989 and almost beat him in an inferior car in 1990. While Prost is great, I wouldn't put him that high. So, I can't put Senna that high either. I would say he is top ten overall, and certainly top 3, along with Schumacher, and Hamilton, post killer years. My top five would be Fangio, Clark, Moss, Stewart in any order with Lauda being a solid number five.

    • @twitchsheinz
      @twitchsheinz 3 месяца назад

      @@johnkluge3421 that's why I'm curious about F1 drivers perspective, not a spectator. Your "analysis" is incredibly superficial and full of flaws

    • @johnkluge3421
      @johnkluge3421 3 месяца назад

      @@twitchsheinz a lot of F1 drivers agree with me. No driver has ever been held in higher regard by other drivers than Fangio. Literally every driver who ever drove against him considered him the best. Clark’s generation held him in nearly equal regard.
      Learn something about the actual history of racing before engaging in these sorts of conversations. You will embarrass yourself a lot less.

  • @aydankhaliq2967
    @aydankhaliq2967 3 месяца назад +12

    Before this race, there was actually a competitive racing series with all the F1 driver against touring car drivers all racing identical cars called ProCar. It ran for 2 seasons and the champions were Niki Lauda and Nelson Piquet.

    • @CowboyManMusic
      @CowboyManMusic 3 месяца назад

      Well nothing against SENNA - a master - BUT THE REAL STORY IS: Nik Lauda was not doing practicing or qualifying! Niki started from 15th (fifteen!) place - and was ONLY 1,5 SECONDS BEHIND SENNA THEN AT THE FINISH! IN THE RAIN! ON THE CIRBUIT OF NEAR-DEATH OF NIKI!!! So the speaker here is saying just "nearby" that Lauda started from 15th. SO NIKI WAS THE SENSATION TOTALLY OF THIS RACE! AND PLEASE DON´T FORGET TO MENTION AS WELL: IN 1979 they have already the same cars: The BMW M1 Pro Car Series! And Niki Lauda won the season! Amen!

    • @aydankhaliq2967
      @aydankhaliq2967 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@CowboyManMusic Apparently, Niki Lauda and his team boss Bernie Ecclestone made a deal that Niki could keep the M1 if he won the title, which Niki promptly did. So Niki waited for Bernie to deliver the car but it never came...

  • @graupa
    @graupa Месяц назад +4

    This is the absolutely best homage of Ayrtons performance and the evidence, that Ayrton was not only a F1 driver with a good car. Thank you!

  • @GERntleMAN
    @GERntleMAN 3 месяца назад +47

    I'm German, but there is no denying that Senna was an exceptional talent amongst exceptional talents. Maybe Stefan Bellof would've been his biggest rival, although 3 years older. Still, Lauda wasn't that far behind. Would've been intersting to see Walter Röhrl in the field. A man mastering every class he raced in

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz 3 месяца назад +8

      Röhrl is pretty fond about Laudas judgement of his skills. I don't remember what Lauda said about Röhlr, but he does remember.
      There was mutual respect between the two. (apparent when Lauda died and Röhrl was aked his opinion about Lauda.)
      Best, funnest thing to watch is Röhls first full race in the US with an Audi quattro on a city cirquit where he lapped the whole field apart from the guy comming second.
      It's in full on YT, even with the original TV comentary.
      (Did watch that video 2 years ago. Had such a laugh when they first didn't show the leader for quite some time only slightly mentioning that Röhl in the Audi is in the lead. And at some corner were astonished about the corner speed the guys were doing in their V8's and Turbo V6 cars.
      And when they finaly showed the leader (Röhrl) going through that corner he went around 10 mph or so faster through that 90° corner than the fastest of the others...)

    • @buckrogers2828
      @buckrogers2828 3 месяца назад

      Henri Toivenien The driver that made Music with the Lancia S4 intergrale

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 3 месяца назад +3

      Bellof was an absolute class act. I was a big fan - back in the day.

    • @buckrogers2828
      @buckrogers2828 3 месяца назад

      @@CosmicSeeker69 Wasn't him that was killed at spa driving a Porsche grp C car

    • @MacVSog64-72
      @MacVSog64-72 3 месяца назад

      @@nirfz Got a link to the video where Röhrl nailed the rest of the field by a lap?

  • @MH-ev3wr
    @MH-ev3wr 3 месяца назад +17

    This used to happen all the time with the IROC series. You had the best drivers from all series competing in identical cars.

    • @glennac
      @glennac 3 месяца назад +4

      Yep, this is exactly the series I was thinking of as well. Boy, I miss it.

  • @armagaan007
    @armagaan007 Месяц назад +1

    I've wanted this forever. Have two race days, one where everyone has the same car designed by f1, the other designed by the teams themselves.
    Right now, it's pretty much the fastest car wins. Red bull's car became subpar and all of a sudden Max is off the podium

  • @johnkluge3421
    @johnkluge3421 3 месяца назад +30

    A 57 year old Phil Hill qualified 10th and finished 12th in that race, ahead of younger drivers like Proust, DeAngeles, and Laffite. John Surtees qualified 9th and finished 11th. He was 50. Surtees and Hill are for my money the two most underrated drivers of all time.

    • @johnkluge3421
      @johnkluge3421 3 месяца назад +3

      @@sergiobadaro7099 By lots of people. Even Surtees gets respect for being a motorcycle and F1 champion but few people fully appreciate how good he was in a car. Hill is practically never mentioned in such discussions

    • @MichaelG1986
      @MichaelG1986 3 месяца назад +5

      "Underrated?" How? Two F1 world champions. Hill is one of only two American F1 champions and Surtees was an F1 champion, a motorcycle Grand Prix champion and a TT winner. They're legends of motorsports.

    • @johnkluge3421
      @johnkluge3421 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MichaelG1986 Yes they are, but few people know who Hill is and Surtees doesn't get enough credit for how great of a driver he was and is just credited for winning on two and four wheels. You may not underrate them but many do.

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz 3 месяца назад

      50? I can tell you something i wittnessed in the early 2000's so when he was way older:
      There is a certain clasic car rallye here in austria for a long time each summer in an alpine valley. And John Surtees came here for many years. (even Rowan Atkinson did 2 or 3 times) Most of the time Mercedes would get out some special cars from their museum and let Surtees and Moss drive them. (Porsche did with a few other drivers...)
      I don't remember the exact year, but Mercedes had brought a W125 (until the 80's this was seen as the most powerfull F1 car) And Audi an Autounion Typ C (which got piloted by Karl Wendlinger)
      If you don't know that thing, you need to look it up: W125: 8cylinders (straight 8) 5600cc and more than 500 hp.
      But a huge wooden steering wheel, no seatbelt, just a wide flat seat. Manual gearbox but not with the today common H pattern.
      H pattern but the gears weren't where they are today i mean. (so 1st was not left front 2nd was not left back ect.)
      And the pedals were also not like today: clutch was on the left, but brakes thottle were the other way around. (brakes right, throttle in the middle)
      The tyres were very slim, maybe a handwidth and they had drum brakes.
      After this setup: Surtees was warming up the engine with throttle blips. Which sounded awsome!
      And then he and Wendlinger did laps for the crowd around the inner part of the small town.
      While The Autounion sounded great Wendlinger was quite cautious in his driving.
      And John surtees? He did drift that monster on cobble stone, onehanded while waving at us spectators with the other hand!
      Thanks to him and Mercedes i got to see a W125 driving and a year later also hear and see the original 722 being driven at that classic car rallye too. Will never forget that.

    • @bboptique9084
      @bboptique9084 3 месяца назад +2

      Underrated is Carlos Reutemann, who finished third in that race and is the only driver in history to obtain podiums in the Sport Prototype, Formula 1 and Rally world championships; and no one mentions it.

  • @sanderheijselaar5687
    @sanderheijselaar5687 3 месяца назад +28

    If I remember correctly, the people at Mercedes where disappointed that Senna won, because they hoped that a big name would win so they could show off the car at shows etc. In hind sight, Senna was the best winner we could imagined. This may also be the reason why both cars of Senna and Lauda where preserved, because Lauda was one of the big names they wanted and came in second.
    I never get tired of seeing this footage

    • @kevincampos3797
      @kevincampos3797 3 месяца назад +2

      Their loss. He became the man of Honda and even helped them perfect their cars.

  • @caioperez6617
    @caioperez6617 2 месяца назад +51

    Senna sem sombra de dúvidas é melhor piloto da história, fora a grande pessoa! Saudades dessa época!

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 27 дней назад

      Senna was far from the best there ever was, and as for what kind of person he was, he was a two-faced ass, when Prost confronted him about running him off the track Senna was such a tit he started to cry. I have been watching F 1 since the early 1960's and was watching when senna was at his best! there was never a time when all the other drivers were happy with the way Senna deliberately took out his opponent if they tried to pass him. There were much better drivers and way better sportsmen in F1 than Senna it was not until Senna died then they made him a Hero.

  • @bertomsons
    @bertomsons 3 месяца назад +29

    5:55 cause he's the best driver of all time

    • @bremCZ
      @bremCZ 3 месяца назад +2

      And Lauda qualified 14th

    • @alanboee
      @alanboee 2 месяца назад

      Fangio was too old

    • @cristianseibriger799
      @cristianseibriger799 2 месяца назад +1

      Senna was't the best of all time. He was good, one of the best, but not the best. He was very dependable of his car....While other driver that is really the best,had the ability to win in bad car, and build a team. So Senna great driver,but not the most complete driver.

    • @alanboee
      @alanboee 2 месяца назад

      @@cristianseibriger799 so who was

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 2 месяца назад

      No he won 3 championships Schumacher won 7
      seven is more than 3.

  • @xaropano
    @xaropano Месяц назад +4

    "S E N N A"
    LEGENDS NEVER DIE

  • @phantom213
    @phantom213 Месяц назад +1

    Senna the Magician in action. Uniquely talented. The most naturally gifted racer in history, no doubt.Thank you for the informative video & analysis. But what really has always captivated me it's that Senna drove the car like noone else, even an amateur watching could feel how special he was: the passion, the dedication, the willingness to go to the very edge and to remain there longer than all of the competitors. Senna and passion were synonyms. He really raced as if demons were chasing him. It always fascinated me to no end. There was something transcendental about it.

  • @ezequielgrimau6344
    @ezequielgrimau6344 2 месяца назад +37

    Senna and Fangio, the best drivers in the history of F1.

    • @stuartbritton4811
      @stuartbritton4811 2 месяца назад +1

      Clark and Fangio.

    • @HugoStiglitz88
      @HugoStiglitz88 2 месяца назад +2

      Delusional. Clark and fangio had no competition whatsoever. Pretending like they're the best ever is ridiculous
      Being the best in their eras really doesn't mean anything

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 2 месяца назад +1

      Schumacher and Clark were better.

    • @joseluiscerrato3107
      @joseluiscerrato3107 2 месяца назад +2

      Hablar de todos los tiempos es desacertado, quien tiene capacidad omnipresente???
      La épocas cambian junto a la tecnología y no son comparables más que en cada momento historico.

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 2 месяца назад +1

      @@HugoStiglitz88 Senna was a team jumper just like Fangio, It makes them look good because they were on the best team. Schumacker left the best team to make a shitty team good. Clark stayed on the same team for his race carrier. Schumacker could have won more if he jumped to the best team like Senna, the way it was He won 7 championships. If Schumacker had went to McClaren when he left Benneton
      he may have won 10 titles. if Senna had raced during the time Clark raced he wouldn't have lasted one season, With his driving style he would have crashed and died in the first season, in those old cars.

  • @grahamtait8031
    @grahamtait8031 3 месяца назад +8

    The talk of Verstappen being in Senna's leave makes me howl with laughter. Senna faced off against the likes of Lauda, Prost, Piquet, Mansell, all bad ass world champions. Even drivers like Berger, Herbert, Brundle and Alesi wouldn't have put up with Max's antics.

  • @thiagojoseferbit
    @thiagojoseferbit Месяц назад +1

    Senna was a genius on the track! Whatever he drove, he would always do well. It's a good thing these videos exist to prove how great Senna was, so people don't just speak highly of him without reason. Nowadays, F1 isn't exciting, the drivers can't show how skilled they are because the cars run on their own and don't let the drivers truly drive.

  • @chrisc475
    @chrisc475 3 месяца назад +7

    That anecdote about the moving wall is one of my all time favourite Senna facts. Astonishing talent.

    • @LarsFerdinand
      @LarsFerdinand 3 месяца назад

      Imagine when you find out he won a GP in his F3 years without brakes....

    • @chrisc475
      @chrisc475 3 месяца назад

      @@LarsFerdinand Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks!

  • @WasleySchultz
    @WasleySchultz 3 месяца назад +10

    The funny thing is Lauda finished second but he actually qualified in 14th! Not to take away from Lauda or Senna (the goat) but that shows most of these dudes were there for fun. Prost took pole but finished in 15th LOL. This would be such a blast to see today. Once a year let these dudes battle it out in equal road cars haha😂

    • @paperplane-db8qf
      @paperplane-db8qf 3 месяца назад +1

      They can all race in the ROC if they want but the current F1 drivers are too chicken about driving equal cars - especially against WEC or WRC legends.

    • @WasleySchultz
      @WasleySchultz 3 месяца назад

      @@paperplane-db8qf I disagree. Most of those dudes would race. They’re all competitive fiends.

    • @nirfz
      @nirfz 3 месяца назад +1

      Well, Lauda (as mentioned in the video) had TV obligations. He was contractually obliged to appear on a TV show, so he could not attend practice and only had one short go for the qualifying.
      Some other drivers did not take it fully serious and "drank a little" the night before.
      But when the race is finally on, they still do get competitive very competitive in some cases.

    • @CowboyManMusic
      @CowboyManMusic 3 месяца назад +1

      Well nothing against SENNA - a master - BUT THE REAL STORY IS: Nik Lauda was not doing practicing or qualifying! Niki started from 15th (fifteen!) place - and was ONLY 1,5 SECONDS BEHIND SENNA THEN AT THE FINISH! IN THE RAIN! ON THE CIRBUIT OF NEAR-DEATH OF NIKI!!! So the speaker here is saying just "nearby" that Lauda started from 15th. SO NIKI WAS THE SENSATION TOTALLY OF THIS RACE! AND PLEASE DON´T FORGET TO MENTION AS WELL: IN 1979 they have already the same cars: The BMW M1 Pro Car Series! And Niki Lauda won the season! Amen!

    • @leeswindell9694
      @leeswindell9694 3 месяца назад

      Gee, from pole to 15th. That’s not very good is it? Is there any word as to how that happened? No one talks about it, but seems like a reasonably big deal to me.
      ?
      lol.

  • @danielbroomhall8882
    @danielbroomhall8882 15 дней назад +2

    If Senna had started in a top car at a very young age (18-20) like most world champions nowadays (Hamilton, Verstappen etc), he would be, by far ,the driver with most titles and records, easily.
    The fact that, he was not from usa or Europe, was a huge obstacle in his career, as he had to climb from the very bottom up to the top and prove himself many times, which took him a few years.
    He is, by far, the best F1 driver ever.

  • @sidneygpaiva_sgp
    @sidneygpaiva_sgp 21 день назад +5

    Ayrton Senna The Greatest of All Time

  • @taal1979
    @taal1979 Месяц назад +4

    That's why Senna is the GOAT!!

  • @lPKSl
    @lPKSl 3 месяца назад +2

    SENNA is the GOAT... brings me to tears watching old stories of him, everytime...

  • @TheEmolano
    @TheEmolano 3 месяца назад +5

    Someone like Mercedes or Aston Martin should fund a race like this with their own road cars.

  • @Housestationlive
    @Housestationlive 3 месяца назад +8

    i watched belgium grand prix on swizz television and one commentator said senna complained at the radio about something moving in his car at imola 1994. i never heard about his radio message despite all the studies i made on this topic. but i would be surprised if senna didn't mentionned the issue to its team, since it started to broke almost a whole lap before the accident.

    • @RuanFernandesofc
      @RuanFernandesofc 3 месяца назад +1

      I don't know if you've watched this video, but it describes exactly what you said.
      ruclips.net/video/XwQKKLyqZm8/видео.html
      Seeing Senna explaining what was probably the cause of his own accident is painful 😞

    • @Housestationlive
      @Housestationlive 3 месяца назад

      @@RuanFernandesofc williams was not taking care of his feedback the same way like mclaren did.

  • @MaxwellAerialPhotography
    @MaxwellAerialPhotography Месяц назад +1

    James Hunt just dicking around having fun at the back of the field is 100% in character for him.

  • @williamjolka4351
    @williamjolka4351 3 месяца назад +7

    It looks like Jimmy Clark s driving !!
    Never forcing the car allways on an ideal line like a sliding carpet..
    Tks for the sharing . Never seen or heard something abt this race !!

    • @mylanmiller9656
      @mylanmiller9656 2 месяца назад

      And about Clark, don't forget going faster than everybody else. The cars were no more than 4 wheels, an engine and a driver seat!

  • @claudetintinger5019
    @claudetintinger5019 3 месяца назад +5

    Ich habe es damals Live gesehen und war von da an Senna-Fan bis zu einem 1 Mai in Italien von da an war die F1 für mich gestorben.

  • @SISchminka
    @SISchminka 9 дней назад +2

    ❤❤❤ Ayrton didn't die! He’s just one lap ahead of everyone else.

  • @brenofabbri2478
    @brenofabbri2478 Месяц назад +4

    As a brazilian I can tell, Senna was the last hero Brazil has ever had.

  • @guillermofernandez6278
    @guillermofernandez6278 2 месяца назад +4

    Hola, soy argentino, Fangio es y será el más ganador de todos los tiempos, pero Ayrton Senna será el mejor manejando, su conducción ha sido exquisita y milimétrica, ganándole a grandes escuderías. Gracias Ayrton por tu legado !!!!!

  • @kresimircosic9035
    @kresimircosic9035 2 месяца назад +2

    It is so much more beautiful to watch actual racing, with slip angles and softer suspension where it is hard to balance all three pedals with the wheel. Much more fun than on-rails F1.

  • @18000rpm
    @18000rpm 3 месяца назад +13

    It's not just "a 190E". It's a 190E 2.3-16, which is basically Mercedes' version of the E30 M3.

    • @SweetFoxyEU
      @SweetFoxyEU 3 месяца назад +2

      That's what I thought to myself.
      "Normal boxy 190E with just some aero and suspension mods and no other upgrades".
      While it's one of the most important 80s sports cars made, with a Cosworth tuned 2.3-16V 😅

  • @hersent.delacruzartica2048
    @hersent.delacruzartica2048 2 месяца назад +15

    It's sad to see that today they compare Verstapen with Senna... as if Senna had used asymmetric braking to win a world championship

  • @MrLuiz2610
    @MrLuiz2610 27 дней назад +2

    He was just the perfect driver in every single form.

  • @Marcelosfv
    @Marcelosfv Месяц назад +4

    the greatest pilot of all time. O maior piloto de todos os tempos é do Brasil.

  • @pepasvec2842
    @pepasvec2842 3 месяца назад +15

    4:32 Hello,my name is Ayrton Senna :D

  • @leandrocintioli5146
    @leandrocintioli5146 2 месяца назад +6

    FANGIO SAID SENNA IS THE BEST AFTER ME

  • @MrLemos38
    @MrLemos38 3 месяца назад +7

    SENNA será único, eternamente, assim como NURBURGRING. Raros, exclusivos e mágicos! Corridas q emocionavam.

  • @DhevendranGovender
    @DhevendranGovender 19 дней назад +2

    Ayrton Senna is the G.O.A.T of F1. There will never be another. RIP..❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @luizfbs
    @luizfbs Месяц назад +5

    Senna, the GOAT

  • @leonardosoliveira1
    @leonardosoliveira1 Месяц назад +6

    Ayrton Senna. Orgulho do Brasil 🇧🇷
    Saudades eternas

  • @SuperIronDan
    @SuperIronDan Месяц назад +1

    True legend, all of them. No fragile ego, we will never see such a race today.

  • @edsongoes171
    @edsongoes171 2 месяца назад +14

    Simply the Best... Senna's GOAT.

    • @donaldduck830
      @donaldduck830 Месяц назад

      There are at least a hundred better and greater drivers.

  • @山上勝巳
    @山上勝巳 Месяц назад +4

    彼が雨で強いのはマシンの優位性が削がれドライバーの資質や才能がいかんなく発揮されるからだ!!!セナを越える、いや近い存在すら未だに現れない。私はいい時代に生まれた、彼の全盛期に毎年鈴鹿の最終コーナーで炸裂咆哮するセナ足を堪能出来たのだから!

  • @HugoStiglitz88
    @HugoStiglitz88 2 месяца назад +1

    Awesome seeing someone talk about this on RUclips. I've always been amazed by how Senna dominated even when he was a rookie , against LEGENDS
    prost did good too I think

  • @Blackout201_
    @Blackout201_ 3 месяца назад +7

    Blaming the wall itself is such a racing driver excuse... and then it turns out to be true 😂

    • @mikekadlcak1963
      @mikekadlcak1963 3 месяца назад +1

      yea but if he was so precise... why didnt he see the difference and crashed?

    • @leo523
      @leo523 2 месяца назад

      @@mikekadlcak1963 a racing driver memorize the course. They not look every moment, they feel.

  • @allanhughes7859
    @allanhughes7859 3 месяца назад +15

    SENNA SENNA SENNA SENNA GREAT MAN GREAT DRIVER FANTASTIC COMPETITOR NO ONE TO MATCH THIS MANS TALENT EVEN TODAY !!!

    • @anltolunaydonmez7242
      @anltolunaydonmez7242 3 месяца назад +1

      Relax man Schumi is better than senna

    • @MayconMLG
      @MayconMLG 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@anltolunaydonmez7242hell nah... Michael managed to drive even dirtier than Senna (somehow)

  • @GianWarGasm
    @GianWarGasm Месяц назад +1

    This is why i love Race Of Champions. All drivers there having fun, but racing to win.

  • @RoisinT2
    @RoisinT2 2 месяца назад +4

    This doesnt surprise me that Senna won. Hes just that much in his own league..

  • @user37814
    @user37814 3 месяца назад +13

    One of the best F1 racers Sena

    • @MrMustache-yn4zm
      @MrMustache-yn4zm 3 месяца назад +2

      Prost faster in the race

    • @ThaDutchDK1989
      @ThaDutchDK1989 3 месяца назад +3

      Senna crashed into Prost wich went off into the sand .everyone Always protecting Senna 🤮 Prost would’ve won otherwise I am sure ..

    • @MayconMLG
      @MayconMLG 3 месяца назад

      ​@@ThaDutchDK1989Prost would've done nothing lol

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 3 месяца назад +1

      If he was that good, maybe you should spell his name properly. Not hard

    • @fejuncor
      @fejuncor 3 месяца назад

      @@ThaDutchDK1989 even F1 drivers like Schumacher, Alonso, Barrichello said Senna is the #1 driver

  • @stanettiels7367
    @stanettiels7367 2 месяца назад +1

    That story about the wall moving is insane. I’ve never heard that one before. That’s surgical precision.

  • @sennagalisfan
    @sennagalisfan 3 месяца назад +9

    Senna the GOAT

  • @eudesdavid4498
    @eudesdavid4498 Месяц назад +5

    No braço não tem piloto como Senna! 🇧🇷

    • @papai9698
      @papai9698 Месяц назад

      Senna largou atrás do Prost e do fraco Carlos Reutemann, tirou o Prost da pista e da corrida e quase foi ultrapassado pelo Lauda que largou em 14⁰. e Piquet e Mansell não correram. Senna foi uma fraude desde a primeira corrida até a última.

  • @Kevin-b2p3v
    @Kevin-b2p3v 3 месяца назад +1

    He could dance a car breaking late and exit the apex with greatest momentum I consider him a great and humble man.

  • @petereffamy8740
    @petereffamy8740 3 месяца назад +5

    The minute you said that Lauda came from 14th to 2nd without any practice, and the fact that he is just a few car lengths behind Senna, makes me more interested in that story.

    • @fejuncor
      @fejuncor 3 месяца назад +2

      great champions are not like us, they have a talent that is eternal

  • @chris-zl4wm
    @chris-zl4wm 3 месяца назад +7

    If Jim Clark had been in this race he would have won easily. He has to this day the biggest win margin in f1 which is 5 mins not seconds. He was also incredible in saloon car and touring car racing.