True. I don't know why it was included in the dirty driving category. They pushed each other hard but fair and did not crash. Proper racing. Just because a driver ignored team orders doesn't make the racing itself dirty. Schumacher torpedoing Villeneuve or Senna and Prost in 89 are better examples of dirty driving.
@@Georgking8514 I get that, still disobeying a team order is not really at the top of my list for unsportsmanlike behavior. Regarding Vettel for example him banging wheels with Hamilton at Baku during a safety car is a better example for unsporting behavior from him. Vettel has disobeyed team orders many times at Ferrari too, possibly it cost him that drive in the end but for me dirty driving and crashing into opponents intentionally is way way worse than disobeying a team order.
@@gforce833 Because Vettel assured his team that he will not attack Webber, they told Mark and he didn`t go full gas to save his tyres. Then all of a sudden Vettel started attacking him.
schumacher did the same again (or tried to) with Villeneuve. Calling Schumcaher a multiple champion disgusts me. He is as good of a champion as Hamilton who "won" ceveral tours de France
@@ludodg Villeneuve is a waster. The Williams was the best car on the circuit in 1997. Schumacher's Ferrari was a piece of junk. Yet Schumacher managed to bring the champion to the wire. You know nothing about F1. You get told your opinion on RUclips.
Yet german sheeple fans will defend this move adamantly. Even though Schumacher is one the best all time, his behavior was disgusting at times and the race commission turned a blind eye
To be fair, rules indicate that if the car behind has the pace to unlap he can clearly do it... Ocon was on super soft, and Verstappen on soft so he already has better rhytm... and a common sense thing.. you are winning, taking him a lap, do you neef to throw your car like that?, he was mad because he couldnt pass him for the tyred so he starts annoying, so, thats the result... ocon hasnt room where to go and make contact
The cleanest F1 world champion I ever knew: Kimi Raikkonen Funny thing is that he didn't weaved right and left to add heat on his tyres for the race, I believe it was in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix...2017 I think..
No he was correcting himself because it was on the right originally so it can't move from the left. He was saying his request was to have it moved to the left
Due to senna bad sportsmanship as he confessed that he did it on purpose to win the title. How hollow. Bad sportsman and low IQ. Same as Michael Schumacher
Yeah HAM is so cool and collected he fell asleep in Baku and pushed the wrong brake-bias button. If anything he can learn a lot from young VER, the only true champion of last decades.
Funny thing is that if Alonso hadn’t deliberately waited and got a grid penalty, he probably would have finished higher, and scored more points than Raikkonen, winning the 2007 championship
Yes. Two men who acted at completely opposite ends of the scale. Damon is, to this day, a sportsman, gentleman,and ambassador for the sport. Graham Hill was in every way the same as Damon. After getting up to watch that race and feeling the anger and disappointment for Damon and the Williams team. On reflection, both drivers and teams showed exactly what they were.
You gotta shove gently at 200 mph or you'll both end up minced. A gentle shove is plenty at that speed. Looks pretty deliberate. Verstappen is a spoiled little shit, even though he's not the first driver to do this and won't be the last
I still can't believe to this day 30 years later that Schumacher wasn't banned from the entire season for deliberately crashing into hill after he hit a wall. And he tried that again against Villeneuve in 97, thankfully he didn't get away with it that time, but it only goes to show how unfair the 1994 situation was.
Can you really blame Senna ? He saw the writing on the wall. No one listened and instead of holding back taking 2nd place in shame he proved his point.
The part about alonso blocking Hamilton leaves out the bit at the start of quali, where alonso was supposed to leave the pits first, but instead Hamilton’s garage colluded against him and sent Hamilton out first, which no one in alonsos garage took well
@Frank Bullitt Hamilton is the best driver ever. And, actually, he is the most popular driver ever, with 39 million social media followers around the world. That's 24 million more than anyone else. It's only ageing losers like you with a massive chip on your shoulder that have your pathetic, racist, small-minded opinion. Hamilton is the GOAT and the most loved ever.
You can make an entire video of the Michael taking the Michael. Lets see, in no order - Adelaide 94 - Jerez 97, you hit the wrong bit Micheal - Overtaking on a parade lap - Ferrari team orders, making Barrichello hand over more than 1 win,apart from that time he tried to rig a simultaneous finish and came second. - Parking at the rascasse. - Binning it into coulthard at spa, then trying to fight him. Coulthard had pulled over to let him pass, but the spray was too much to see. - That time he tried to bin Barrichellos Williams into a wall on the pit straight. - that time he tried to bin hakkinen, and hakkinen made it 3 wide with a back marker filling to pass. Thats the one where post race hakkinen was caught on camera explaining why the micheal was taking the micheal again. But the absolute worst is Singapore. No one truly believes Alonso's denials about that one.
Binning it into coulthard at spa, then trying to fight him. Coulthard had pulled over to let him pass, but the spray was too much to see. Coulthard nearly killed Michael here. Coulthard should have been permanently banned from driving and should have faced a jail term for this!
Maybe calls I'm American and it's not nearly as common nore acceptable hear but team orders are gross and in complete opposition to the spirit of competition. It's a race let them race may the best man win.
@@robertstone9988 Well F1 is, first and foremost, a constructor's championship. So while team orders may be in opposition to the spirit of competition on the level of individual drivers, it is necessary for maximizing the performance of the team as a whole. Experience is, letting your drivers race each other affects the overall outcome negatively, sometimes drastically so. In that spirit, we could say that individual drivers wanting to one-up each other is in direct opposition to them racing together as a team. You see, it only really depends on what angle you're looking at it.
@@Navajonkee I'm all about the individual hear. No one becomes a athlete to make a team mate look good. I'm hear to compete I want to beat everyone every time. 2nd is first looser really. F1 is pretty gay.
@@robertstone9988 I believe you've never seen team sports, like, at all. Your preferences won't change facts. F1 is a competition between constructors. Drivers are merely overly popularized tools.
It’s amazing to me the Schumacher was constant bashed for his antics, but Senna was loved. I loved both drivers, but I’ve always thought that was ridiculous.
Watching "Senna", you could see that he was fighting against an unhealthily cosy Prost/FIA relationship, and an unscrupulous rival in Prost himself. His action at Suzuka was wrong, but could be seen as natural justice. Schumacher just rammed other drivers off the track to stop them beating him. Plain cynical and surely worse.
Senna crashing into Prost in 90 at Suzuka is only unsportsmanlike if you don’t know what happened the year before. He made it clear after 89 and going into the 90 race that if the situation were ever reversed, he wasn’t gonna let Prost even have a chance at spoiling his title.
And then he gets completely banned from the 1997 championship for driving into Villeneauve, in a move that only put himself off the track... And that was in a season where he LOST the championship!
Oh so very true!...Prost deliberatly took Senna out at the tracks slowest point at Suzuka,...I have no particular axe to grind, but I lost a lot of respect for Prost that day.
@@cass276 kekw! he did not. Prost was ahead, Senna dove in. What was Prost supposed to do, just let him through? Classic race incident. But the 1990 incident was Senna being pure hooligan, luckily Noone got hurt. Senna was brilliant but when things didn't go his way he turned into some kind of a spoiled brat bitch.
I was watching the 89 crash life on Tv on vacation in the South of France and ofcourse they all blamed Senna. Revenge came the Year later and it tasted sweet..
@@makkie211175 that's true, watch the old days of F1, the drivers would fight for real when some stupid lapped pilot makes something like this, and even if you are fighting for the position on that days, if you ruined the race of some pilots, they would jump on you for a beating.
Prost did the same to him a year ago, and Senna was disqualified, even after such a heroic drive, all because of dirty politics, Balestre and Prost ‘the French connection….they wanted to do him dirty again by shifting pole position to dirty side of track in 1990 as well…Senna was not ready to take that 💩
How can anyone regard a cheat like Schumacher as legend is beyond me. I guess depends who cheats. For some, that’s being smart, for some, that’s a crime against humanity. One among many reasons why Hamilton is F1 GOAT. No shenanigans like this, pure racer. Fair racer.
I still remember the after race comment in the tv: "Schumacher after breaking his car (here in 2:40) looking in his rearview mirror to see where Hill would try to pass him and swerving to collide with him". And after: "the Fia did not sanction him because there had never been a German champion in 44 years and they wanted to win that market". Heated moments.
Senna's marboloro car was iconic but I think Prost's ferrari is one of the cleanest best looking cars in F1 history, along with Senna's Lotus 98t and all the 70s Lotus's
Senna's one was clear revenge from the previous year. It's funny how he wasn't disqualified from the race for the incident itself, but because he didn't just came back to the track in the most dangerous way (very fair). And next year when he took the pole it was in the dirty side of the track. A lot of coincidences going on
Yeah, people forget that Prost crashing into Senna at the chicane in 89 was also blatant cheating - when you see it from the front angle, Prost turns into Senna way before the corner, similar to Schumacher in Jerez 1997
Balestre was the main guy in F1 during that time so it's absolutely no surprise. I reckon the Balestre why didn't disqualify Senna from the whole title in 1990 is because he would have made it waaay too obvious he was pulling the strings in favor of Prost.
The most unsportsmanlike thing was to put Sennas pole position on the dirty side of the track before the race, to support Prost. Which was done by his fellow frenchman Balestre. If i was Senna I would do the same. They took 1989 from him and wanted to do the same in 1990.
Hungary 2007 had a backstory where alonso was to be lead car but lewis went out first and ruined alonso's lap so fernando in rage did his favours back to lewis
@@gabrielsiqueira4384 Because I don't like scumbags who will hurt others to get the stupid prize ? Or because I do not approve sore loosers who will use every dirty trick in the book to have their way ?
Senna's crash into Prost was because he was fed up with the French run FIA (Jean Marie Balestre) favouring Frenchman Prost, and changing pole position to the dirty side of the track after Senna had won pole was the most egregious example of this.
@@supermario8416 you choose to blindly dismiss the above comment. Doesnt change the facts though. Any logical person will understand that when you win pole position, you should be the one with the advantage not the other way around.
@@supermario8416that is absolute bullshit. He also stopped to help drivers in distress. Prost just got a well deserved paypabck there. I never liked Prost, he was always calculating. Senna was undoubtedly the better driver. And anyway, fuck the frogs...
@@SilentScreamer413 Still Senna was the dirties F1 driver ever. And Prost was slower than Senna only in qualifiying but in reces he was equal if not even better than Senna. In 1990 Prost in an inferior Ferrari almost won the championship against Senna in a much faster McLaren. Senna had to intentionally crash into Prost to win the championship.
@@supermario8416 yadiyadiyada. As I said and as you're obviously too biased (and stupid) to admit, the frog did the same thing a year before. Senna only got a sweet revenge there. Senna was a real competitor on the track not a mathematician like Prost was (his nickname wasn't by accident). Schumacher drove quite dirty, actually there are lots of drivers that did dirty moves but none of them had Senna's talent behind the wheel, period.
Damon Hill was nothing short of a gentleman in '95, allowing Schumacher his hollow victory. Smacked him in the face with his EXTREMELY well deserved title win in '96. That title, for me, was pure nostalgia, karma and talent. Schumacher is hailed as one of the greatest. His talent is undeniable, but his ability to implement cheating is also undeniable. An extremely unsportsmanlike champion when he wants and has the opportunity. Funny thing is as well, the tailend of the '90s was basically karma hitting him in the face for his behaviour. Jacque Villeneuve was too tough and wily to bow to the cheating of Schumacher, remember Jerez? Remember Schumacher leading Villeneuve by a point and Villeneuve staying steady, expecting Schumacher to cheat? Villeneuve was ready, Schumacher tried it, failed and the blatent cheating attempt resulted in Schumacher crashing out? Karma, repeating the circumstances of '95, and dealing with in the proper way. But it won't be talked about as it didn't work for him. But a cheat will always be a cheat, regardless.
@@ludodg "Verstappen reminds you of Schumacher"! What are you on? Verstappen's character is nothing like Schumacher. You are just talking off the top of your head to make it look like you actually know what you are talking about. Give up sprouting nonsense
There needs to be some context. Senna deliberately crashed into Prost, because the FIA put Prost in the better racing line even though Senna was in pole position. This followed on from the previous year in which Senna was DQ'd from the final race, leaving Prost to win due to some stupid technicality that was actually more dangerous than what Senna actually did.
yeah, clearly it's absolutly "legendary" if a sports-championship is won without any sporting done by forcing a DQF in minute one, in other words, by cheating... -_-
@@gtcell8331 а какая разница, британец он или нет? Ну, вот мнение из России: Шумахер замарал себя в 1994-м по полной! Никакие чемпионства не смоют такого. И его радостных прыжков в Имоле. PS до всего этого многие болели за него(и я - тоже): "солнечный мальчик", "новая надежда Ф-1" и всё такое...
Ocon was at fault and yes in a perfect world Verstappen should have just swallowed his anger and move on but F1 can be a very fiesty and emotional sport so there is also that, Chris Horner also said that while he doesn't condone violence, he does say these things can happen
OK I'm gonna say it - Senna's move on Prost in Japan was THE worst move in F1 history. Senna was a great driver but his obsessive nature on wanting to beat Prost at all costs was nothing to admired at the time.
I didn’t get to see Senna or Prost in action back in the day, but my respect for Senna just dropped way down after watching him do that 100% on purpose.
A ME SENNA NON PIACEVA, NE LUI, NE LA SUA MCLAREN, MA PIù LO RIVEDO, E PIù SONO CONVINTO CHE SIA IL FRANCESE A CHIUDERE IL BRASILIANO, CHE OVVIAMENTE, AVEVA TUTTO DA GUADAGNARE DA UN TAMPONAMENTO DEL GENERE.. MAGARI PROST AVEVA IN MENTE DI BUTTARLO FUORI DAVVERO E PER PRIMO...
You have to look at the what proceeded it. Basically Senna took pole yet they put pole on the unfavorable side of the track starting for the first turn.. which from my understanding defeats the purpose of getting pole.
@@stevejpm1 Youngest driver in the history of Formula 1, youngest Formula 1 race winner, has over 50 podiums at only 23 and could soon be one of the youngest Formula 1 world champions. Sounds like a winner to me
Schumacher proved at Jerez 1997 that Adelaide 1994 was definitely deliberate. And TBH its one of the reasons I never liked Michael Schumacher. The worst part is that Schumacher was good enough not to have to resort to the tactics he did in F1. I get that F1 is a business and to succeed you have to be ruthless both as a driver and when running a team. But there is being ruthless and there is being downright dirty and those two incidents, both designed to get Schumacher the title, were dirty driving IMO.
Alonso at the 2010 German GP. Massa faster all weekend, leads the race and team orders give Alonso the win....a win he said he deserved and would've won anyway...nobody really mentions this. At least when Michael got that in Austria he was upset about it. Didn't stop the media taking shots.
There's a lot more to the Senna Prost incident than what you see in this clip. Head of FIA or whatever it was back then was a French guy who openly favoured Prost. I believe they initially agreed to Sennas request and then changed it back.
Many were taken out of context like Senna losing the championship earlier on Suzuka by a dubious disqualification as well as the sudden grid change so he had to start om the dirty side and Ocon really behaving like an absolute brick for ramming Max.
Dubious disqualification???? He was push started not to get to a safer spot but to cut a chicane and rejoin the race. There’s 2 illegal points there. Pole position was always on the dirty right side of the track at Suzuka. For at least the previous 7 seasons at least. HRH Senna was just whining as usual and making out that there was a conspiracy against him like he always did. When senna crashed or didn’t finish a race, it was always someone else’s fault. When HRH Senna won, it was because of his magnificence as a truly superb driver sent from heaven on the wings of angels.
@@thedorianmode8087 push starts were not illegal back then. Cutting the chincane was necessary in order to avoid going backwards on the track to rejoin at the same spot. That was made clear in the driver's briefings the next year before the 1990 Suzuka GP, when Piquet raised the point and everybody agreed that the right to do was cutting the chicane. Yes, the pole had been in the dirty side in all previous races before 1990 and that was wrong, because it made being on pole a punishment rather than a reward for the fastest driver. When Senna raised this point BEFORE qualifying, everybody agreed to move the pole to the clean side, including the Stewards. But Balestre intervened to block it after Senna qualified on pole in the hopes that this would make him lose P1 at the start just like it happened in 1989. Whining and blaming others was Prost's thing, not Senna's.
You should add Schumacher too then. In 1994 the FIA banned / disqualified Schumacher for 4 races for pretty small infringements. He was by far the best driver that year and Hill did not deserve the title AT ALL and wouldn't be in contention if Schumacher participated / got points in all races.
Verstappen pushes Ocon? Wtf? Ocon was lapped... Didn't have to be there taking such a risk. He deserved his theeth getting re-organized if you ask me 😂
Ocon has better pace... he was already unlapping... but child max doesnt tolerate to be pass so he brakes late and throw the car on ocon's car, and you get mad about it...
@@ignaci2330He had better pace? He was LAPPED. He should not go into a fight with anyone that it a lap ahead. Why do they get blue flags if they are allowed to 'fight' with cars that are a lap ahead? That simply doesn't make sense.
Schimacher, having attempted to eliminate his main rivals twice by crashing into them, is top if my list. Had he been a little bit more humble as a human when it mattered most and with millions watching, he would probably be conscious of his place in history even today. The universe doesn't sleep. Senna's 1990 moment should be put in context with what happened just one year prior at the same track - Balestre using his political power to bend rules and give Prost the championship - AND with the same Balestre moving the pole position onto the dirty side of the track to ensure Prost, his compatriote, gets a better chance off the line from second, again favoring the frenchman. I wonder why Balestre didn't disqualify Senna for his actions after the race, like he did in 1989. Probably for fear of being too obvious.
@@markusmueller2246 Experience being NICELY ROBBED for the previous year championship, so NOT letting someone pass the first lap with the POLE position being purposedly CHANGED so as to let him loose again was not a simply revenge but just paying with the SAME COIN, and for such the Frenchmen COMPLÔT that had been long time established did not punished Senna that time, cause they new they have ROBBED Senna the the previous year. More than very well done sportsmanship attitute from Senna paying on the SAME COIN what he had been ROBBED the previous year... And just for reference the SAME frenchmen duo had ALSO robbed Senna in Monaco 1984, and that ROBBERY lead to the frenchmen loosing the championship by just 0,5 had not he had halved his ROBBED first place at Monaco, so as to not leave Senna to win such race which ended up costing the frenchmen title that year... That was a divine punishment for cheating over a third world pilot, which for then one would end up being the BEST of ALL TIME... Unsportsmanship were Prost, Schumacher, Verstappen and the others presented, missing Eddie Irvine among others...
Special mention for the Williams team sabotaging Carlos Reutemann's car so that he does not win the 1981 drivers' championship in Las Vegas USA. PS: That, Frank, was not very British of you.
Well, Patrick Head didn't gave a damn about Piquet's contract to give Mansell a head start in 86/87. Alan Jones himself threw his car against Piquet's in Canada 1980. In the end, there is a lot of shite on F1 Circus, but we love it, anyway.
With Rosbergs father saying how dirty it was in 2006 when Michael did it...and Rosberg still denying it to this day while Michael even admitted it to Massa later....
Well there is something to be said about being a good number 2 driver. Look at many of the number 2 drivers and how they reacted to those kind of team orders, Massa and Barichello come to mind and absolutely furious or disappointed they were in the team order. Now my question is “Is it okay to potentially rob a driver of a victory or a higher position just because the team wants the other to increase his standings” and for me the answer is no, the drivers need to race on the merits and not given positions of victory judt because of team orders.
I’m not saying bottas is idiot he done everything right even a better 2 driver but I’m talking about which is more exciting not who is doing better like sometimes we prefer to watch 2 people fight on the street than saying hi
On numer one ... a quick note. Senna did that (ironically) because in the championship of 1989 Prost did exactly the same in Suzuka and won the championship, hitting Senna in a curve.
He just switched to super soft tyre and was faster he had the right to unlap himself (even though he took a lit of risks where it wasn't necessary) Max close the door as if Ocon wasnt there
Putting Verstappen at 5 for that incident is dumb. That was off the track and was a genuine grievance for Verstappen. Cost him the race. Ocon had no business contesting Verstappen on the track. That was Ocon's pride.
@@zacharyradford5552 What does Schumacher have to do with the original comment? We’ve already seen you replying with similar hate in other comments so your bias is obvious. Both drivers are legends and had more similarities than either fan bases like to admit so quit deflecting with whataboutisms lol
Bullshit, Senna was only really unsportsmanlike once or twice in his entire career. He had every right to do what he did in 1990. His actions off track and saving Comas’ life more than redeemed his actions. He raced clean and fair in the last 3 years of his career anyways, even in the slower car.
@@motorsportfan1246 if you think only once or twice then you have no idea. How is deliberately causing a potentially fatal crash ever justified? All the times he stuck the car where it had no right to be causing huge collision and then jsut shrugged it off like nothing. Never once too responsibility for what he did. Yes he was a phenominal driver, but if you raced like him today yoj would be out of the sport. Martin brunel does a great segment on him where he shows senna deliberately crashes him off the circuit simply because he was faster
Senna goes for a closing gap at high speed on the first lap and dangerously takes his championship rival out - everyone "Senna is the greatest" Hamilton goes for a closing gap at high speed on the first lap and dangerously takes his championship rival out - everyone "He should be banned, dirty bastard...blah blah blah"
Err, ok, we brazilians were not happy with Senna's atitude, but he was fighting against cheater Prost and French stewards, who gave Prost advantages for long time. Schumacher was another kind of cheater for long time, He won 7 champ, but he doenst deserved half of them.
i mean people love senna cuz he was a good driver. believe me people will treat hamilton like senna. they are just bored from the mercedes domination thats all. both of them were mistaken and everyone knows that. everyone knows that hamilton is top 3 f1 driver. someone might consider him the goat but everyone knows hes top 3. and senna is being hyped cuz he died thats all. if he was alive he would be treated like prost. prost was a really good driver but he gets much less love then senna.
@@DAZUNIVERSALINDUSTREIS bevause ocon is running his own race and had people to beat. He never knows if he might get a puncture or someone makes a mistake. You always want to be going full out
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No thank you. Enough disappointment after only one video
No, thanks. I don't need any british bullshit again
We seem to have forgotten Nigel Mansell's ignoring the black flag at the Estoril circuit in 1989
@@formulafilmed6537 Mhhhm I wonder which driver you support....🙂
The Red Bull cars racing eachother was so cool to watch
True. I don't know why it was included in the dirty driving category. They pushed each other hard but fair and did not crash. Proper racing. Just because a driver ignored team orders doesn't make the racing itself dirty. Schumacher torpedoing Villeneuve or Senna and Prost in 89 are better examples of dirty driving.
@@gforce833 It's not about dirty driving, it's about sportsmanship. The two things are very different
@@Georgking8514 I get that, still disobeying a team order is not really at the top of my list for unsportsmanlike behavior. Regarding Vettel for example him banging wheels with Hamilton at Baku during a safety car is a better example for unsporting behavior from him. Vettel has disobeyed team orders many times at Ferrari too, possibly it cost him that drive in the end but for me dirty driving and crashing into opponents intentionally is way way worse than disobeying a team order.
Continue racing is for me Sportsmanlike behaviour.
@@gforce833 Because Vettel assured his team that he will not attack Webber, they told Mark and he didn`t go full gas to save his tyres. Then all of a sudden Vettel started attacking him.
Verstappen can be as rude as he wants, what's Red Bull gonna do? Replace him with Albon?
If Hamilton did the same thing I doubt everyone would appreciate it.
Albon isn’t with red bull anymore
@@jordangroves9753 this message was made before the race of Bahrain
@@jordangroves9753 he is rest driver right?
@@quirfz4673 ah ok
Schumacher ramming Hill out of the race should have been number one. Senna just returned the favor of the year before.
schumacher did the same again (or tried to) with Villeneuve.
Calling Schumcaher a multiple champion disgusts me.
He is as good of a champion as Hamilton who "won" ceveral tours de France
@@ludodg
Villeneuve is a waster. The Williams was the best car on the circuit in 1997. Schumacher's Ferrari was a piece of junk. Yet Schumacher managed to bring the champion to the wire. You know nothing about F1. You get told your opinion on RUclips.
@@martin4458 Exactly this.
@@ludodgSchumacher is the goat.
Yet german sheeple fans will defend this move adamantly.
Even though Schumacher is one the best all time, his behavior was disgusting at times and the race commission turned a blind eye
To be fair, I would also be VERY ANGRY if I was leading a race and got punted off like that by a backmarker.
You can't be that stupid. You met the backmarker pass cause you are clever enough not to risk you race
And Ocon is just an anoying guy. Very anoying.
And after the race Ocon simply said "that he was faster" without apolygizing for his stupid move. That would make me angry as well.
@@ruubvanhulst he did what DC did to Schumi in Spa and expected Max to not be fuming.
To be fair, rules indicate that if the car behind has the pace to unlap he can clearly do it... Ocon was on super soft, and Verstappen on soft so he already has better rhytm... and a common sense thing.. you are winning, taking him a lap, do you neef to throw your car like that?, he was mad because he couldnt pass him for the tyred so he starts annoying, so, thats the result... ocon hasnt room where to go and make contact
The cleanest F1 world champion I ever knew: Kimi Raikkonen
Funny thing is that he didn't weaved right and left to add heat on his tyres for the race, I believe it was in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix...2017 I think..
Ice 🥶🧊
Nah it’s Lewis
@@Samson44444 Nope. Lewis had lie-gate in 2009 Australia.
@@Samson44444 nah he did dirty things also
Fangio is the guy
3:09 Damon's like "I'm not driving it with the wishbone bent, Patrick." 🤣💀
"He asked for the pole position to be changed from the left to the left". Classic.
RIP Murray. :(
Murrayism
Maybe he asked for the pole position to be changed from the left to what's left...
At that moment I was lost
No he was correcting himself because it was on the right originally so it can't move from the left. He was saying his request was to have it moved to the left
"Prost and Senna have made up their feud now"
-top 10 things said before disaster
LMAO
Prost deserved that so bad lol 💀🤣
Due to senna bad sportsmanship as he confessed that he did it on purpose to win the title. How hollow. Bad sportsman and low IQ. Same as Michael Schumacher
Dude ate those words a few minutes later 😂
Yep. I would love to see Schumacher trying to pull what he did with hill to Senna
He would have been grabbed by the throat
"He had nothing to lose you had everything to lose". Wise words from Hamilton to Max in the cold room that day at Brazil
Honestly that was Lewis learning Max a big lesson that day. I really appreciated Lewis doing that.
@@Jizzajaap correct, Max didn't expect this action from Ocon but he should have realized. Wise words from Lewis.
@@Jizzajaap Agree ... doesn't appear that Max ever took it on board though, still the same
Yeah HAM is so cool and collected he fell asleep in Baku and pushed the wrong brake-bias button. If anything he can learn a lot from young VER, the only true champion of last decades.
@@dzmach74to be fair Lewis got a hard lesson from silverstone 2021. Pretty much never recovered since. Since then he always makes mistakes
Funny thing is that if Alonso hadn’t deliberately waited and got a grid penalty, he probably would have finished higher, and scored more points than Raikkonen, winning the 2007 championship
Then he would’ve joined Red bull and then Mercedes
Worth it
Ironically he got “Karma”
the difference between an ice cold northen man and a feidty, spicy, mediterranean
@@banino9295 bro what
Bottas just walking to the scale while Max and Ocon are fighting is one of my favorite off the track F1 moments
LOL I didn't even notice it.
no one likes Ocon , hes a huge prick apparently
Not much of a fight. Ocon showed remarkable restraint . Max was lucky. After the third shove he should have had a helmet shoved in his face.
Classic Scandinavian chill 😄
Damon Hill acted with such class after the 1994 race in Australia.
*Looks confused at Suzuka 1997 & Monaco 2010*
Yes. Two men who acted at completely opposite ends of the scale.
Damon is,
to this day, a sportsman, gentleman,and ambassador for the sport. Graham Hill was in every way the same as Damon.
After getting up to watch that race and feeling the anger and disappointment for Damon and the Williams team. On reflection, both drivers and teams showed exactly what they were.
Michael did not cheat lol
@@nxco1108 Call it what you please.
My opinion will remain undoubtedly the same.
That is true 🙂👍
*gets smashed into a wall*
commentators: THAT WAS ABSOULTY AMAZING
Murray Walker ❤❤
"Absoulty" LOL
*absolutely man
rip Murray Walker
Fantastic
Terrible commentating break then, thadunlyy we have pros now in thy booth
#f1 #HAMMRTIME #RUclips #PS5
That first one was the most gentle shove I’ve ever seen.
Ocon got lucky if that would have been Jos verstappen he would have left with a black eye just like mazepin did in f2 😂
@@silentwolvesnld8831 haha, those were different times
You cant expect him to know how to shove when he got abused by his daddy his whole life
@@silentwolvesnld8831 I doubt it. Jos picks targets that can't defend themselves. He likes beating defenseless women for example
You gotta shove gently at 200 mph or you'll both end up minced. A gentle shove is plenty at that speed. Looks pretty deliberate. Verstappen is a spoiled little shit, even though he's not the first driver to do this and won't be the last
I still can't believe to this day 30 years later that Schumacher wasn't banned from the entire season for deliberately crashing into hill after he hit a wall. And he tried that again against Villeneuve in 97, thankfully he didn't get away with it that time, but it only goes to show how unfair the 1994 situation was.
Shoemaker was a dirty cheating kraut.
He got his karma in life.
@@samblack5313 yikes
Schumacher will aiways be a cheat in my eyes.
@@samblack5313nah
Love the commentary when Alonso held back lewis. Thats really really, really. Up to you chuck lol
do you know what Ron said to Alonso's physiotherapist ?
@@aubinstafford1880 “come with me, take your helmet off. We are going to a have a little chat”
@@jbsmotorsports What did the physiotherapist have to do with that ?
@@morganfreeman5171i'm guessing that's because was (and is) very close to Alonso
That was a moment of pure gold, rate to see two AH spoil each others race.
Senna and Prost was some really epic rivalry
Senna vs Prost = Verstappen vs Hamilton 😂😂😂
@ it was fucking better
@@gianlucatixson6621 its not yet
@ no man, there is no rivality like senna vs prost nowadays
@ how old are you?
Can you really blame Senna ? He saw the writing on the wall. No one listened and instead of holding back taking 2nd place in shame he proved his point.
Vettel always sounds like he is crying on radio when bad things happens.
He is...
Also true...
@@AlxanderSpetz makes sense why they get along
This video has quarter the population of the F1 fans with the worst opinions lol
@@darkox4172 how is liking any1 else then hamilton bad?
The part about alonso blocking Hamilton leaves out the bit at the start of quali, where alonso was supposed to leave the pits first, but instead Hamilton’s garage colluded against him and sent Hamilton out first, which no one in alonsos garage took well
@Frank Bullitt touch grass
@Frank Bullitt congratulations! You said a whole lot of nothing.
@Frank Bullitt they race me so hard
That wasn't even the worst of the shit Alonso was put through in that team, shocking behaviour by so called professionals
@Frank Bullitt Hamilton is the best driver ever. And, actually, he is the most popular driver ever, with 39 million social media followers around the world. That's 24 million more than anyone else.
It's only ageing losers like you with a massive chip on your shoulder that have your pathetic, racist, small-minded opinion.
Hamilton is the GOAT and the most loved ever.
You can make an entire video of the Michael taking the Michael.
Lets see, in no order
- Adelaide 94
- Jerez 97, you hit the wrong bit Micheal
- Overtaking on a parade lap
- Ferrari team orders, making Barrichello hand over more than 1 win,apart from that time he tried to rig a simultaneous finish and came second.
- Parking at the rascasse.
- Binning it into coulthard at spa, then trying to fight him. Coulthard had pulled over to let him pass, but the spray was too much to see.
- That time he tried to bin Barrichellos Williams into a wall on the pit straight.
- that time he tried to bin hakkinen, and hakkinen made it 3 wide with a back marker filling to pass. Thats the one where post race hakkinen was caught on camera explaining why the micheal was taking the micheal again.
But the absolute worst is Singapore. No one truly believes Alonso's denials about that one.
Spa was Coulthard's fault, he even admitted it
Adelaide in 1994 was by far the worst. He won the title by intentionally binning it into Hill.
Binning it into coulthard at spa, then trying to fight him. Coulthard had pulled over to let him pass, but the spray was too much to see.
Coulthard nearly killed Michael here. Coulthard should have been permanently banned from driving and should have faced a jail term for this!
how butthurt can a Brit be about a German. Bloody hell mate, grow up.
Neither is 94 on Schumacher nor is 98.
What the hell are you sniffing?
I still love Multilap 21 so much. Vettel claiming he had to do it because he was "so scared" is just one of F1s funniest moments.
Maybe calls I'm American and it's not nearly as common nore acceptable hear but team orders are gross and in complete opposition to the spirit of competition. It's a race let them race may the best man win.
@@robertstone9988 Well F1 is, first and foremost, a constructor's championship. So while team orders may be in opposition to the spirit of competition on the level of individual drivers, it is necessary for maximizing the performance of the team as a whole. Experience is, letting your drivers race each other affects the overall outcome negatively, sometimes drastically so. In that spirit, we could say that individual drivers wanting to one-up each other is in direct opposition to them racing together as a team.
You see, it only really depends on what angle you're looking at it.
@@Navajonkee I'm all about the individual hear. No one becomes a athlete to make a team mate look good. I'm hear to compete I want to beat everyone every time. 2nd is first looser really. F1 is pretty gay.
@@robertstone9988 I believe you've never seen team sports, like, at all.
Your preferences won't change facts. F1 is a competition between constructors. Drivers are merely overly popularized tools.
@@robertstone9988You are the exact reason why American F1 fans have the reputation we do. Please be quiet.
It’s amazing to me the Schumacher was constant bashed for his antics, but Senna was loved. I loved both drivers, but I’ve always thought that was ridiculous.
Wait until MSC passes away. People will usually change their tone when someone dies.
Watching "Senna", you could see that he was fighting against an unhealthily cosy Prost/FIA relationship, and an unscrupulous rival in Prost himself. His action at Suzuka was wrong, but could be seen as natural justice. Schumacher just rammed other drivers off the track to stop them beating him. Plain cynical and surely worse.
@@kevinmac2200 I see. So you’re all for drivers risking each other’s lives when it’s in the name of “justice?” That’s just weak man.
@@rizalm77 He is a cripple now that probably can't do anything without help. Isn't that on the same level as dead for a man like Michael?
Because Schumacher was dominant for many years. People hate dominant drivers
Senna crashing into Prost in 90 at Suzuka is only unsportsmanlike if you don’t know what happened the year before. He made it clear after 89 and going into the 90 race that if the situation were ever reversed, he wasn’t gonna let Prost even have a chance at spoiling his title.
Schumacher on hill was so obvious can’t believe he was not disqualified
And then he gets completely banned from the 1997 championship for driving into Villeneauve, in a move that only put himself off the track... And that was in a season where he LOST the championship!
Schumacher is disqualified since 2013 🥲
@@49521Kevintong bro
@@49521Kevintong not funny knobhead
Hill disagrees but ok
Senna crashing into Prost was literally payback for Prost doing the same thing earlier to win the champinship.
Oh so very true!...Prost deliberatly took Senna out at the tracks slowest point at Suzuka,...I have no particular axe to grind, but I lost a lot of respect for Prost that day.
@@cass276 kekw! he did not. Prost was ahead, Senna dove in. What was Prost supposed to do, just let him through? Classic race incident. But the 1990 incident was Senna being pure hooligan, luckily Noone got hurt. Senna was brilliant but when things didn't go his way he turned into some kind of a spoiled brat bitch.
I don't how you blame prost 1989 when senna dive bombed him
Senna only made the going for a gap statement to excuse a stupid move that could’ve been done later. He’s overrated cause he’s dead
I was watching the 89 crash life on Tv on vacation in the South of France and ofcourse they all blamed Senna. Revenge came the Year later and it tasted sweet..
Surprised Schumacher didn't take all top 5s on your list.
Да это самый грязный читер за всю историю. Но он получил обратку от судьбы и заплатил по полной за все гадости, что делал в гонках.
@@swampfolk2526
You're a nasty piece of work. I wish you nothing but bad luck
@@swampfolk2526wow what a sad person you have to be to wish someone a fate as Schumi
@@swampfolk2526 that language says it all x) sad little sausage
@@swampfolk2526 Look at your country right now and repeat this bull**** again.
Schumacher parking his car at Rascasse at Monaco in qualifying to block anyone beating his time surely would make a top 10.
Indeed probably one of the worst, worse than 94 as that was more heat of the moment.
Schumacher was a bad loser
@@colinashby3775 🤡
@@colinashby3775Not as bad as Senna as he intentionally try to kill
God keeps the score. No one escapes unpunished.
Schumacher on Villeneuve 1997 is clearly missing here
But villeneuve winn this one and shumi got the grass
@@alexandreaudette2434 The grass, removed from championship standings, ravaged by Italian media...
I think that's because the right result still happened there.
he tried to pull a 1994 move again but it backfired
@@ultra_01 Damon hill was a scrap driver, he win 1996 championship just luck, villeneuve was better
From the comfortness of my armchair, I can tell you that I enjoyed each and everyone of those moments.
I type up good sportsmanship moments and i get this
Uno reverse card
🤣🤣🤣
Me when I see Suzuka 1990: ooh I gotta check the comments.
Schumacher was always known for not being the cleanest on the grid.
Verstappen vs Ocon, it's like watching two teddy bears have a fight!
i think any driver would react the same as Verstappen if he was in the same situation. maybe even more violent.
@@makkie211175 that's true, watch the old days of F1, the drivers would fight for real when some stupid lapped pilot makes something like this, and even if you are fighting for the position on that days, if you ruined the race of some pilots, they would jump on you for a beating.
Drivers are skinnier than ever and most of them are soft rich boys.
@@ryche.rising how is that true in the same video how did prost react when senna chrashed with him
I would have loved to see Ocon knocked out for his smugness
6:59 Senna was like: "That's a job well done!".
Kimi Velocini: Bet
Prost did the same to him a year ago, and Senna was disqualified, even after such a heroic drive, all because of dirty politics, Balestre and Prost ‘the French connection….they wanted to do him dirty again by shifting pole position to dirty side of track in 1990 as well…Senna was not ready to take that 💩
@@rahulkadiyan332
💯. I don’t blame Senna. They literally gave him no choice
How can anyone regard a cheat like Schumacher as legend is beyond me.
I guess depends who cheats. For some, that’s being smart, for some, that’s a crime against humanity.
One among many reasons why Hamilton is F1 GOAT. No shenanigans like this, pure racer. Fair racer.
Bottas watching ocon and verstappen: traditions…
Top 5 you say, you can make a whole documentary on Schumi alone.
Absolutely.
and Senna
irrelevant
1997 he was at fault but 1994 i still don’t think it was
And Hamilton too
I still remember the after race comment in the tv: "Schumacher after breaking his car (here in 2:40) looking in his rearview mirror to see where Hill would try to pass him and swerving to collide with him". And after: "the Fia did not sanction him because there had never been a German champion in 44 years and they wanted to win that market". Heated moments.
Senna's marboloro car was iconic but I think Prost's ferrari is one of the cleanest best looking cars in F1 history, along with Senna's Lotus 98t and all the 70s Lotus's
Senna's one was clear revenge from the previous year. It's funny how he wasn't disqualified from the race for the incident itself, but because he didn't just came back to the track in the most dangerous way (very fair).
And next year when he took the pole it was in the dirty side of the track. A lot of coincidences going on
Yeah, people forget that Prost crashing into Senna at the chicane in 89 was also blatant cheating - when you see it from the front angle, Prost turns into Senna way before the corner, similar to Schumacher in Jerez 1997
Balestre was the main guy in F1 during that time so it's absolutely no surprise. I reckon the Balestre why didn't disqualify Senna from the whole title in 1990 is because he would have made it waaay too obvious he was pulling the strings in favor of Prost.
The most unsportsmanlike thing was to put Sennas pole position on the dirty side of the track before the race, to support Prost. Which was done by his fellow frenchman Balestre. If i was Senna I would do the same. They took 1989 from him and wanted to do the same in 1990.
bullshit. go and watch the previous races in suzuka and be surprised where the pole position is.
Pole was always on that side.
Why would someone change starting position? Nonsense
Balestre did that in 84 in Monaco and Prost lost the title to Lauda hahahahahahahahah
@@balazsbernat7827 Indeed was in 1988, I guess they were getting to have it changed but as soon as Senna marked the pole the FIA changed their minds.
Hungary 2007 had a backstory where alonso was to be lead car but lewis went out first and ruined alonso's lap so fernando in rage did his favours back to lewis
If it was the other way around everyone would call Lewis a crybaby and a sore loser
@@kelkh_4355 yeah but still both were to blame not just fernando
@@kelkh_4355
After Silverstone race, we all clearly saw who is sore loser and dirty scumbag.
@@Marko-od7eb guess you're the crybaby
@@gabrielsiqueira4384
Because I don't like scumbags who will hurt others to get the stupid prize ?
Or because I do not approve sore loosers who will use every dirty trick in the book to have their way ?
Red Bull cars racing each other was kinda cool to watch.
Senna's crash into Prost was because he was fed up with the French run FIA (Jean Marie Balestre) favouring Frenchman Prost, and changing pole position to the dirty side of the track after Senna had won pole was the most egregious example of this.
Senna was the dirtiest driver in F1 history.
@@supermario8416 you choose to blindly dismiss the above comment. Doesnt change the facts though. Any logical person will understand that when you win pole position, you should be the one with the advantage not the other way around.
@@supermario8416that is absolute bullshit. He also stopped to help drivers in distress. Prost just got a well deserved paypabck there. I never liked Prost, he was always calculating. Senna was undoubtedly the better driver. And anyway, fuck the frogs...
@@SilentScreamer413 Still Senna was the dirties F1 driver ever. And Prost was slower than Senna only in qualifiying but in reces he was equal if not even better than Senna. In 1990 Prost in an inferior Ferrari almost won the championship against Senna in a much faster McLaren. Senna had to intentionally crash into Prost to win the championship.
@@supermario8416 yadiyadiyada. As I said and as you're obviously too biased (and stupid) to admit, the frog did the same thing a year before. Senna only got a sweet revenge there. Senna was a real competitor on the track not a mathematician like Prost was (his nickname wasn't by accident). Schumacher drove quite dirty, actually there are lots of drivers that did dirty moves but none of them had Senna's talent behind the wheel, period.
2 redbull drivers battling each other and saying " now lets see who has got the wings"😁😁😁😁
Seb really said “Multi-map, shmulti-map. I’m winning this”
A win for Webber would just be a waste!
Damon Hill was nothing short of a gentleman in '95, allowing Schumacher his hollow victory. Smacked him in the face with his EXTREMELY well deserved title win in '96. That title, for me, was pure nostalgia, karma and talent. Schumacher is hailed as one of the greatest. His talent is undeniable, but his ability to implement cheating is also undeniable. An extremely unsportsmanlike champion when he wants and has the opportunity. Funny thing is as well, the tailend of the '90s was basically karma hitting him in the face for his behaviour. Jacque Villeneuve was too tough and wily to bow to the cheating of Schumacher, remember Jerez? Remember Schumacher leading Villeneuve by a point and Villeneuve staying steady, expecting Schumacher to cheat? Villeneuve was ready, Schumacher tried it, failed and the blatent cheating attempt resulted in Schumacher crashing out? Karma, repeating the circumstances of '95, and dealing with in the proper way. But it won't be talked about as it didn't work for him. But a cheat will always be a cheat, regardless.
Судьбу не обманешь. Шумахер жестоко поплатился за все выходки на гоночных трассах. Судьба догнала на горнолыжной трассе.
Notice the thumbnail to this vid was of Schumacher's tantrum when he tried to punch Coulthard in the pit lane..
You sound like you would let Hill cuck you
true statements, dear sir! And Verstappen reminds me of Schumacher: a true winner .. at all costs ... but not a gentleman
@@ludodg
"Verstappen reminds you of Schumacher"! What are you on? Verstappen's character is nothing like Schumacher. You are just talking off the top of your head to make it look like you actually know what you are talking about. Give up sprouting nonsense
*Violent crash at high speed*
Commentator: THIS IS AMAZING!
The good old times.... Too many people crying nowdays
6:43
That's Murray Walker
It was
Amazing because it gave senna the WDC
He puts the 1990 incident but fail to put 1989 incident. BRILLIANT!
There needs to be some context. Senna deliberately crashed into Prost, because the FIA put Prost in the better racing line even though Senna was in pole position. This followed on from the previous year in which Senna was DQ'd from the final race, leaving Prost to win due to some stupid technicality that was actually more dangerous than what Senna actually did.
5:22 In my opinion, the most legendary race in Formula 1 history. Lap 1, turn 1, new Champion: Ayrton Senna.
He wasn't a new champion.
He won in 1988
@@idontknow08 Oh really?!?!! ;P It’s called new champion for that year genius
yeah, clearly it's absolutly "legendary" if a sports-championship is won without any sporting done by forcing a DQF in minute one, in other words, by cheating... -_-
@@idontknow08 1989 the champion was PROST. 1990, Senna won it back, making him the new champion. That is how championships work.
@@Simon-bu4kc Yes. Absolutely "legendary" just like Suzuka the previous year.
Ocon was a lap behind and attacking the race leader when he's 15 places down. He deserved more than a push
Schumacher was the *master* of this unsportsmanship debate
You are a British fan so I understand you 😂😂😂
@@gtcell8331 He´s right. Schumi was not any saint. Specially at the beginning of his career.
@@gtcell8331 а какая разница, британец он или нет?
Ну, вот мнение из России: Шумахер замарал себя в 1994-м по полной! Никакие чемпионства не смоют такого. И его радостных прыжков в Имоле.
PS до всего этого многие болели за него(и я - тоже): "солнечный мальчик", "новая надежда Ф-1" и всё такое...
@@gtcell8331 E TU SEI UN ANTISPORTIVO!!
E FINALMENTE QUALCUNO HA IL CORAGGIO DI DIRLO!!!😠
Ocon was at fault and yes in a perfect world Verstappen should have just swallowed his anger and move on but F1 can be a very fiesty and emotional sport so there is also that, Chris Horner also said that while he doesn't condone violence, he does say these things can happen
Ocon deserved to be confronted.
Verstappen was 100% at fault, as usual
@@byanymeansnecessary9329
Lewis fan spotted lmao
@@ihavewaited90daystochangem51 maxipad spotted
@@byanymeansnecessary9329
Get a grip, How was that collision his fault?
Surprised Piquet didn't make it with him punching and kicking Renault drivers
Its ATS, it is as bad as Osella
Both Piquets could have made their way to the list tbh
You thinking of Salazar after he was punted off by him? Never got anywhere near a renault lol
OK I'm gonna say it - Senna's move on Prost in Japan was THE worst move in F1 history. Senna was a great driver but his obsessive nature on wanting to beat Prost at all costs was nothing to admired at the time.
Just imagine Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Ramos was a formula one driver
Prost vs Senna. First time a Frenchman was surprised that other nations are capable of cheating too.
Weird how every driver in this video are multiple world champions. Hot-headedness and "passion" really does keep you going.
0:26 didn't think Max actually meant he'd actually *seek out* Ocon and pick a fight.
Don't know how I've never seen this.
New to F1?
@@esMusicalus No been watching for 15 years just didnt know Max was such an arse somehow
That Schumacher 1994 thing was the most obvious cheating I've ever seen. He just rammed him. Should have been DQ'd for the season as he was in 1997.
1990 senna
David Quoulthar'd?
I didn’t get to see Senna or Prost in action back in the day, but my respect for Senna just dropped way down after watching him do that 100% on purpose.
This was more or less his signature move. He did it multiple times.
Prodt started that in estoril 88 and suzuka 89.senna was too fast for him
A ME SENNA NON PIACEVA, NE LUI, NE LA SUA MCLAREN, MA PIù LO RIVEDO, E PIù SONO CONVINTO CHE SIA IL FRANCESE A CHIUDERE IL BRASILIANO, CHE OVVIAMENTE, AVEVA TUTTO DA GUADAGNARE DA UN TAMPONAMENTO DEL GENERE.. MAGARI PROST AVEVA IN MENTE DI BUTTARLO FUORI DAVVERO E PER PRIMO...
You have to look at the what proceeded it. Basically Senna took pole yet they put pole on the unfavorable side of the track starting for the first turn.. which from my understanding defeats the purpose of getting pole.
@@cefb8923 That doesn't excuse deliberately crashing into someone.
I have recently realised Max is a legend, but sometimes as James Hunt would say he has the mental age of 10
he hasn't won bugger all yet,so what's legendary about him.
Legend how sir ?
He is, he will be (or is already) the next senna. So fast at a time where driver skills matter usually so much less than in the past.
@@stevejpm1 Youngest driver in the history of Formula 1, youngest Formula 1 race winner, has over 50 podiums at only 23 and could soon be one of the youngest Formula 1 world champions. Sounds like a winner to me
That doesn't make him a legend ... good driver maybe but legend I don't know . 😕
Seb was just racing ! Great stuff
Schumacher proved at Jerez 1997 that Adelaide 1994 was definitely deliberate. And TBH its one of the reasons I never liked Michael Schumacher.
The worst part is that Schumacher was good enough not to have to resort to the tactics he did in F1. I get that F1 is a business and to succeed you have to be ruthless both as a driver and when running a team. But there is being ruthless and there is being downright dirty and those two incidents, both designed to get Schumacher the title, were dirty driving IMO.
Agreed 👍
ocon thought he was fighting for first place till reality kicked in
Missing Piquet Jr./crashgate and Prost vs. Senna 1989. Hamilton blocking Rosberg in Abu Dhabi 2016 as well. And mostly Schumacher in Jerez 1997.
I guess the author is a British biased one?
Alonso at the 2010 German GP.
Massa faster all weekend, leads the race and team orders give Alonso the win....a win he said he deserved and would've won anyway...nobody really mentions this.
At least when Michael got that in Austria he was upset about it. Didn't stop the media taking shots.
There's a lot more to the Senna Prost incident than what you see in this clip. Head of FIA or whatever it was back then was a French guy who openly favoured Prost. I believe they initially agreed to Sennas request and then changed it back.
Many were taken out of context like Senna losing the championship earlier on Suzuka by a dubious disqualification as well as the sudden grid change so he had to start om the dirty side and Ocon really behaving like an absolute brick for ramming Max.
Dubious disqualification????
He was push started not to get to a safer spot but to cut a chicane and rejoin the race.
There’s 2 illegal points there.
Pole position was always on the dirty right side of the track at Suzuka. For at least the previous 7 seasons at least. HRH Senna was just whining as usual and making out that there was a conspiracy against him like he always did. When senna crashed or didn’t finish a race, it was always someone else’s fault. When HRH Senna won, it was because of his magnificence as a truly superb driver sent from heaven on the wings of angels.
@@thedorianmode8087 let me guess, french? lol
@@phrsngx5675 actually, Croatian/Australian.
@@thedorianmode8087 push starts were not illegal back then. Cutting the chincane was necessary in order to avoid going backwards on the track to rejoin at the same spot. That was made clear in the driver's briefings the next year before the 1990 Suzuka GP, when Piquet raised the point and everybody agreed that the right to do was cutting the chicane. Yes, the pole had been in the dirty side in all previous races before 1990 and that was wrong, because it made being on pole a punishment rather than a reward for the fastest driver. When Senna raised this point BEFORE qualifying, everybody agreed to move the pole to the clean side, including the Stewards. But Balestre intervened to block it after Senna qualified on pole in the hopes that this would make him lose P1 at the start just like it happened in 1989. Whining and blaming others was Prost's thing, not Senna's.
You should add Schumacher too then. In 1994 the FIA banned / disqualified Schumacher for 4 races for pretty small infringements. He was by far the best driver that year and Hill did not deserve the title AT ALL and wouldn't be in contention if Schumacher participated / got points in all races.
Verstappen pushes Ocon?
Wtf? Ocon was lapped... Didn't have to be there taking such a risk.
He deserved his theeth getting re-organized if you ask me 😂
I think he meant after the race. He pushed him to the chest.
@@erdemozgur7399 still why the f did ocon stay there should have backed Out there
@@theunknowngamer7757 he had every right to unlap himself if he was faster. Max just being max and expecting everyone else to back out.
Ocon has better pace... he was already unlapping... but child max doesnt tolerate to be pass so he brakes late and throw the car on ocon's car, and you get mad about it...
@@ignaci2330He had better pace? He was LAPPED.
He should not go into a fight with anyone that it a lap ahead.
Why do they get blue flags if they are allowed to 'fight' with cars that are a lap ahead?
That simply doesn't make sense.
Schimacher, having attempted to eliminate his main rivals twice by crashing into them, is top if my list. Had he been a little bit more humble as a human when it mattered most and with millions watching, he would probably be conscious of his place in history even today. The universe doesn't sleep.
Senna's 1990 moment should be put in context with what happened just one year prior at the same track - Balestre using his political power to bend rules and give Prost the championship - AND with the same Balestre moving the pole position onto the dirty side of the track to ensure Prost, his compatriote, gets a better chance off the line from second, again favoring the frenchman. I wonder why Balestre didn't disqualify Senna for his actions after the race, like he did in 1989. Probably for fear of being too obvious.
no excuse for Senna either. He and Schumacjher will always go down as cheats.
@@markusmueller2246 MOLTO DI PIù SCHUMACHER PERO'!!
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@@markusmueller2246 Experience being NICELY ROBBED for the previous year championship, so NOT letting someone pass the first lap with the POLE position being purposedly CHANGED so as to let him loose again was not a simply revenge but just paying with the SAME COIN, and for such the Frenchmen COMPLÔT that had been long time established did not punished Senna that time, cause they new they have ROBBED Senna the the previous year. More than very well done sportsmanship attitute from Senna paying on the SAME COIN what he had been ROBBED the previous year... And just for reference the SAME frenchmen duo had ALSO robbed Senna in Monaco 1984, and that ROBBERY lead to the frenchmen loosing the championship by just 0,5 had not he had halved his ROBBED first place at Monaco, so as to not leave Senna to win such race which ended up costing the frenchmen title that year... That was a divine punishment for cheating over a third world pilot, which for then one would end up being the BEST of ALL TIME... Unsportsmanship were Prost, Schumacher, Verstappen and the others presented, missing Eddie Irvine among others...
“at a circuit where passing is virtually impossible”
monaco and jeddah: allow us to introduce ourselves
you can actually overtake easily in jeddah just not follow
I love how every clip features atleast a world champion. Except Max.. for now.
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how do i watch the 2021 season?
He is going to get in this year.
@@AdmiralStickney unless the merc maffia wont take him out a few times
Damon Hill will forever be a 2 times world champion. Everyone knows that, including Schumacher.
Max Vs ocan fight has a similarity with Michel's pit lane fight with David Coulthard .
Except Max wanted to play patty-cake and Schumacher looked like bossman ready to put one of his employees on indefinite leave.
Except Max was immature yet
Special mention for the Williams team sabotaging Carlos Reutemann's car so that he does not win the 1981 drivers' championship in Las Vegas USA.
PS: That, Frank, was not very British of you.
And in general Alan Jones being childish and not helping his teammate at all during the season.
Well, Patrick Head didn't gave a damn about Piquet's contract to give Mansell a head start in 86/87. Alan Jones himself threw his car against Piquet's in Canada 1980. In the end, there is a lot of shite on F1 Circus, but we love it, anyway.
What about Rosberg deliberately stopping in Monaco to prevent Hamilton getting pole in 2014
Or Michael doing that... twice
With Rosbergs father saying how dirty it was in 2006 when Michael did it...and Rosberg still denying it to this day while Michael even admitted it to Massa later....
@@Vulpes_Shinbi Yeah, in 2006 when Alonso was just starting his flying lap and was sure to get pole. Michael parked in La Rascasse
Alonso blocking Hamilton is 100 times excited than bottas letting Hamilton pass through him like an idiot
like a good teammate
Well there is something to be said about being a good number 2 driver. Look at many of the number 2 drivers and how they reacted to those kind of team orders, Massa and Barichello come to mind and absolutely furious or disappointed they were in the team order. Now my question is “Is it okay to potentially rob a driver of a victory or a higher position just because the team wants the other to increase his standings” and for me the answer is no, the drivers need to race on the merits and not given positions of victory judt because of team orders.
I’m not saying bottas is idiot he done everything right even a better 2 driver but I’m talking about which is more exciting not who is doing better like sometimes we prefer to watch 2 people fight on the street than saying hi
Well thats what happends when ur #2. The team basically worships hamilton and forget bottas even exists lol
@@sovietman2591 it is tampering with result legally which is dumb and shouldnt be allowed
For me, Schumacher didn't win that 94 championship. They should get in the ring and slug it out. Whoever wins, gets the trophy.
On numer one ... a quick note. Senna did that (ironically) because in the championship of 1989 Prost did exactly the same in Suzuka and won the championship, hitting Senna in a curve.
Lol stopped the first seconds
Ocon was a lap behind so he had to back down. Important context to note here
He just switched to super soft tyre and was faster he had the right to unlap himself (even though he took a lit of risks where it wasn't necessary) Max close the door as if Ocon wasnt there
0:16 WDY it was Ocon
I don't know what's going on but I'm binging F1 content.
Putting Verstappen at 5 for that incident is dumb. That was off the track and was a genuine grievance for Verstappen. Cost him the race. Ocon had no business contesting Verstappen on the track. That was Ocon's pride.
I think it was Ocon saying "I was faster than you" after the race that made Max snap, not the incident itself
You can make an entire video of Max being unsportsmanlike...can't wait.
you know a subject like this.. Senna will show up.. he was nuts .. an accident waiting to happen
Schumacher was way worse.
@@zacharyradford5552 What does Schumacher have to do with the original comment? We’ve already seen you replying with similar hate in other comments so your bias is obvious. Both drivers are legends and had more similarities than either fan bases like to admit so quit deflecting with whataboutisms lol
Bullshit, Senna was only really unsportsmanlike once or twice in his entire career. He had every right to do what he did in 1990. His actions off track and saving Comas’ life more than redeemed his actions. He raced clean and fair in the last 3 years of his career anyways, even in the slower car.
@@motorsportfan1246 if you think only once or twice then you have no idea. How is deliberately causing a potentially fatal crash ever justified? All the times he stuck the car where it had no right to be causing huge collision and then jsut shrugged it off like nothing. Never once too responsibility for what he did. Yes he was a phenominal driver, but if you raced like him today yoj would be out of the sport. Martin brunel does a great segment on him where he shows senna deliberately crashes him off the circuit simply because he was faster
@@dannywhite132 yes I’ve seen the f3 accident and he was dangerous but we all know brundle hates him cuz he was infinitely better.
Occon waving for help, getting it then acting tough is everything he is.
People always give Lewis a hard time, but he may literally be the fairest world champion in F1 history.
Schumacher always did that shit
What about 1997? Schumacher driving into Villeneuve and losing all his points for the year?
Yes
Well done Paul!
Senna goes for a closing gap at high speed on the first lap and dangerously takes his championship rival out - everyone "Senna is the greatest"
Hamilton goes for a closing gap at high speed on the first lap and dangerously takes his championship rival out - everyone "He should be banned, dirty bastard...blah blah blah"
Err, ok, we brazilians were not happy with Senna's atitude, but he was fighting against cheater Prost and French stewards, who gave Prost advantages for long time.
Schumacher was another kind of cheater for long time, He won 7 champ, but he doenst deserved half of them.
i mean people love senna cuz he was a good driver. believe me people will treat hamilton like senna. they are just bored from the mercedes domination thats all. both of them were mistaken and everyone knows that. everyone knows that hamilton is top 3 f1 driver. someone might consider him the goat but everyone knows hes top 3. and senna is being hyped cuz he died thats all. if he was alive he would be treated like prost. prost was a really good driver but he gets much less love then senna.
You realize it now? F1 fans are the biggest hypocrite community I've ever seen
max go for a closing gap, hit the kerb and crashes: "nooooooo, he almost killed lewis, assassin, should be banned from f1!"
The difference is Hamilton is a wanker off the track with zero personality
Schumacher was the biggest prick of ‘m all…
You forgot 1997 Villeneuve - Schumacher. And 1989, Suzuka , Prost - Senna. And Schumacher parking in the qualifying session of Monaco.
Ocon was out of order tho
Not really. I like max, but he was fighting for no reason, and he just turned across ocon. Where was he meant to go?
@@dannywhite132 he was lapped
@@nickshelton8423 that is irrelevant. Ocon was overtaking and max turned into him
@@dannywhite132 yeah but why would he overtake max who was a lap ahead and much faster
@@DAZUNIVERSALINDUSTREIS bevause ocon is running his own race and had people to beat. He never knows if he might get a puncture or someone makes a mistake. You always want to be going full out
n°1 is just Karma for Prost :D
@@masterlan8557 Show some respect douchebag
@@Lolzyyyyyyyyyy And where's the respect for Prost? Respect goes both ways, douchebag.
This is F1, the real F1.
MSC was one of the iconic drivers ever.
He was a fighter, no matter how high is the prize.
That Verstappen and Ocon incident would make me mad too.
It was more Vertsappen fault tho