@@brokenwing51 Then R&D polls on their weapon development, "Hello Helldiver! How do you like our new invention!" kind of thing, it would fit, and make realistic sense.
@NathanTruby it's all votes. You can tell by the both the ladies in the ship you can talk to how they discuss the new voting system and how they couldn't imagine having to actually vote by hand
The devs need to remember that this is a PVE game. They have been buffing/nerfing stuff more than CoD has done in 24 months which makes absolutely no sense. Update from below after people lost it: I stand by what I wrote. Adjusting the difficulty of a game like Helldivers 2 can be done in mutiple ways that are far less controversial than adjusting the weapons. For example by changing the stats of the enemies (damage/speed/health) or the frequency/count they spawn etc. It would be way easier to fine-tune it that way, especially on a mission by mission level and it even opens up for A/B-testing. Changing the weapons all the time makes no sense what so ever, unless there are some things that are broken. Look for example at breaches/bot drops. You could easily tweak the count/type/cooldown, you name it. There are so many parameters in this game that could be tweaked instead of just making erratic changes to the weapons.
Because they expected 20k players max. Then they got half a mil concurrent with over 10 million copies sold. They had to immediately rethink the whole balance of the game, including planet liberation, spawn rates etc to account for the sheer amount of players. The game needs to be fun yet challenging and I imagine they had to start rethinking their whole approach when player count went through the roof.
@@DroosterH Except they nerf what was already shit into more shit and then nerfing whatever worked or was fun to the ground. Their “balancing” is just them hating the player base and nerfing whatever is popular at the moment. It’s all frustration and no fun/reward
The only things they’ve really done to need weapons has been reduced magazines for practically infinite ammo rifles and balanced the rail gun. It was op af. Same with the quasar. It made other weapons obsolete. It still does even with an increased cooldown. The one rifle Eruptor mess was an attempted fix. Womp womp. Other than, there hasn’t been anything meaningful nerf wise. The rail gun nerf was actually positive because the player base had to grow and learn not to rely on the rail gun crutch. They’ve made a couple of missteps, but the nerfs were not bad and there have been loads of buffs. It’s disheartening to see the communities poor reactions to many things.
If you look under the "Known Issues" section for this latest patch, they've practically announced they're going to buff the Tenderizer as it is doing "too little damage" and is not in the state they are intending.
If the CEO has to have multiple meetings with Devs over "balance" in a PVE game, it might be time to let someone go and find a replacement. It's getting silly
I've managed to play with pre nerfed eruptor for just 1 week, a crossbow for 3 missions. Now I regret purchasing previous warbond, because all weapons got heavily nerfed.
@sadghfajdslhgsadklgk it really isn't. The damage is alright, but the fire rate isn't great, and the recoil is to significant to full auto at long range, making your dps pretty awful unless they're close up.
I hadn't unlocked the crossbow by the time it was nerfed. For this reason I chose not to immediately buy the new war bond. I want to wait 2-3 weeks and see how they change them before spending real money on them.
Biggest problem with the game. Every single weapon in the game that has come from a Warbond is either borderline useless or is fun... Then gets nerfed into paste. What's the point in buying any of these Warbonds if the weapons just turn crap or already are crap? Both Deomcractic Detonation and the newest Bond aren't worth buying now.
bloated overlength zero information videos. I keep clicking "do not recommend videos from this channel" but somehow there is always one more channel producing this nonsense content. "content"
@Steir12 I don't know what part of the multiverse you're from, but in this universe, that guy got flamed for being an idiot. Also meta-cringe reddit brains will exist, and kick you, regardless of the quality of the weapons you use. In fact, if all the weapons are weaker than they are now, the probability increases as the meta weapons would be "the ones that actually work" if all weapons are viable it'll take longer for reddit brains to ruin the fun
Yeah. I just uninstalled the game after 15 min of endless battle on main objective. And it is not first time. Freaking spawnfest out of nowhere straight in to your face. Game become too frustrating to play right now. I need to take a mental break. I have maxed out everything, i've keep played because i enjoyed the game but now its just a nerf fest with broken spawn system.
Please also understand that a lot players got tired of playing it day after day for weeks. A lot players might play something else as a break. And then all drama with PSN linking and balance issue also doesn't help. But I have already noticed players drop before all current the issues we're discussed. And I also took break for 2 weeks and played other games.
Yeah the devs been through a lot of stress after PSN and there trying to stand up and get on track, the reason why the game skyrocketed because of videos, TikTok, and the memes, but after awhile the hype died down. And after the fallout show people definitely switched over to there games. The players were going to drop anyways because that’s every live service games. Goes the same with FN, apex, overwatch, among us, etc. But even then, still enjoy the quality of the game compared to other live service games
I really hope they can get it right, this game has absolutely incredible potential! Spawns of patrols in particular (even at 4 players) is a huge one as well as weapon balancing.
Honestly i think people who played for 500+ hours (!) are just burnt out. They think it's not fun because devs messed up something but in reality game just doesn't feel fresh to them anymore and they're tired. Too bad they are the ones that shape community consensus.
@@Steir12 Just speaking for myself here. I hit 250 hours and I was playing for over a week daily with all upgrades, warbonds complete, samples/medals/req. capped just for the fun of it right up until the April 29th nerf patch. 3 of my 4 load out items got hit and it became more of a grind than fun. Add in the Sony nonsense as the cherry on top. I am currently account suspended for TOS violations after closing my PSN account this past Saturday just as an extra FU from Sony.
@@Steir12 I was at 400+hrs before the "balance" patch hit. I still tried to play a couple solos a night during my lunchbreak but the increased spawn rate + all my favorite weapons being broken or shite + I hate SMG/AR/Shotgun gameplay means I "burnt out". I wasn't having fun. I'm still not having fun.
@@DarkRavenhaft 513hrs. Still want to play the game but am sick of how unplayable it is now. People talk of "burn out" when in fact it's the objective fact the game has had all the fun nerfed out of it. Even the CEO acknowledges "as soon as someone finds something fun, we remove the fun". It's not burn out, it's refusing to play a game that has changed so much that the fun no longer exists - or is so infrequent it doesn't warrant playing.
Did you not watch the rest of the video? The dev team is absolutely burnt out. They expects to have 10k peak players and they are the fastest selling playstation game of all time. They are literally struggling on multiple fronts. And all you can do is sit and moan. Just crack on anyway, have some dignity instead of whining. They'll get to it as they are doing and have been doing.
@@thenooticer7392 you're weak minded and just suck at the game. Burnt out from being an indie dev that expected to have 10k peak players. Is now the fastest selling playstation game of all time..... They've had emergency buy new servers, hire new staff, try and keep up with the content schedules, patching and now Sony nuking the player base. Do you think the Spartans at the hot gates moaned the Persians had lighter spears? What happened to men?
@@KillFrenzy96 If you're accurate with your shots the DR CS is king at the moment due to one shotting devastators to the head. Take the redeemer and switch to semi to handle the smaller infantry and strategems for the heavies.
My brother in christ it was near useles until latest patch when it was buffed to onetap devastators in the head. It was literally "dilegence but worse".
@@KillFrenzy96 Countersniper is great when everything goes smoothly you can kill multiple devastators in a blink of an eye. When things get a bit hectic you will wish u had dominator.
6:26 This is what infuriates me to no end with this game. They want you to be super accurate yet the recoil, flinch, sway and handling all work against you and on top of that, they want to rain enemies down on you. Couple that with the constant weapon nerfs that makes dealing with them a chore and it gets very unfun very fast.
@@TinToastCan Let me know how that goes when your being swarmed by hunters and there are 2 stalkers aswell oh and the random charger that stealth attacks and don't get me started on the bile Spewer nuking you from 40 feet away because reason's. Being accurate when your under pressure and panicking is a little difficult.
I'm rarely a get good andy, but I'm almost 40 years old and got those old man reflexes and I have no trouble aiming in this game. So if I can do it, anyone can.
@@rupertbear4447 Don't trigger so many patrols then? Fight what you've got and try your damn best not to bring in everything else. Most randos just keep running around, stand your ground and fight! Remember you've got a bag of tricks a mile wide to use; grenades, smokes, stuns, flames of all sorts, lightning bolts, turrets and cannon shells raining down from the sky with absolute impunity. Every single diver is a one man army. Too many little bugs? Bring some wide area attacks to swat them, team not listening? Walk. The. Hell. Away. Big bugs? They can EAT this and smoke off. TLDR? Don't trigger a mess when you can be smarter about how you engage. Big swarms are a result of bad trigger discipline or bad target priorities. Chargers, and Bile titans are not the most dangerous shit out there, those little scavenger bastards are, cause they keep calling more in.
@@8-7-styx94 who said anything about triggering patrols? I know how to play this game got over 300 hrs now. He was talking about accuracy and the sway of the weapons and i said it could be difficult when your under pressure
IMO they need to buff things sure, but also need to evaluate some functionalities/interactions, I`m going to give a few examples. -Have it so the ammo backpack can refill turret strategems. -Have it so you can call in ammo box for the Mech, so it can be repaired and re-armed. -Adjust the CD on strategems, some of the CD makes zero sense, why the 380mm has the same CD as the 120mm? -Add variations instead of punishments for planets traits, like, the AA that makes you lose 1 strategem? Yes but also you get (-50% CD on turret stratems, has an example). Or you can`t use Eagle Strikes, but all other strategems are dropped faster and the barrages have double the ammo. Strategems takes longer to deploy but now you can carry 5 instead of 4. -Make it so the Heavy Machine Gun can pierce Bots armor, any bot armor, except the Factory Strider, also it should pen chargers and Bile Titans. Improve existing stragems, like Eagle Rocket, make it so it attacks twice instead of just once, this can be an upgrade that uses samples.
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@@nootsgaming5517no it wasn't because the nerf had nothing to do with it being a sniper dude. If it was then they would've nerfed the range which they literally didn't do. They nerfed the damage, destruction capability and the stagger. Now the first 2 nerfs i can consider but nerfing its stagger which was it's sole ability was not justified and had nothing to do with it "being a sniper" it's nerf made no sense to the reason
@@nootsgaming5517 That's the stupidest reason I've ever heard for nerfing a shotgun, "It's too good of a sniper so instead of buffing the 2 underperforming snipers, we'll just nerf the only good thing, what a great idea!"
@@somethingmissing7108 and don't slug rounds actually have pretty far ranges even for shotguns, do while even if not a sniper shouldn't it still have a fair distance?
The balances issue is weird because most of this things were sort out in Helldivers 1, most of the weapons felt good and powerful, mechs were amazing and you had a small window to exit the vehicle before it exploded etc.
I just want the more of the warbond weapons to be more viable, and the strategems to be geared for handling the more armored enemies to a better degree. They don’t want us to use the same strategy, but if they nerf everything we’re ONLY going to use what works. I still love the game, but that needs to change fr, so I’m glad they’re at least meeting about it.
I hope they don't slow down the warbond releases. I need something to spend my medals and super credits since I'm max on everything except super credits. Slowly I'm buying everything from the super store too.
if you look at Arrowheads past library (did you play magicka?) weak pointless primary guns are kind of the point. its to funnel you into risking the barely controlled chaos of big attacks or starts int his game. they seem to be shifting to what the cod bros want
@Stylosa, I don't think new mechs are coming anytime soon mainly because of how they're implemented currently. Let me explain it like this, how many turrets can you bring to a mission and how many can you deploy at once? With that answer in mind, imagine having 3-4 exo-suit stratagems on deck and you basically run through all 8 of them through out the mission. You run one either dry or until it nearly blows up (or does) and then you call in another, rinse and repeat. With enough smarts (not really skill just more self restraint and know how of when to progress and when to hold back) someone could realistically just be playing MechWarrior: HellDivers 2 edition. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but then the exo-suits would need rebalancing to make them not so OP so that such a tactic (having 4 exo-suits deployed on the mission ALL the time for the entire mission) isn't broken, which either results in the exo-suits not being worth the stratagem slot for how fast they die OR enemies end up getting buffed to the point you will need an exo-suit to take on a scavenger and not burn through all of your ammo. Don't get me wrong on that either. It would be so much fun and chaos to have like the flame suit, AC suit, and then like an artillery big-ol' cannon suit, but that's a lot of changing the game from Helldivers to Titanfall. Some kind of new "vehicle/exo-suit" designated stratagem slot will need to be created to limit how many we can take. Otherwise, we're going to just have a "Mech Meta" that will get nerfed to the ground. I can't take credit for this POV as I read an article pointing this out and I think it's pretty valid. I mean you can run an all eagle build, an all turret build, and an all orbital build. There'd be nothing stopping you from doing an all mech build if they added more without any kind of restraints.
At the very least, all ARs need a dmg buff of 5-10 and a magazine capacity increase of 15-30 rounds based upon the role it should be fulfilling. The main reason for just these two stats increases is that your trigger time vs what you effectively kill is currently awful, (it's why the Sickle feels good despite obvious trouble with healthier targets). For example... The Tenderizer: +5 dmg, +30 rounds... It's role is to clear up small targets with its light armor pen. You'll still dump a considerable amount of ammo into a brood commander but you'll kill it within a full mag. It's a waste of ammo but you can do it and not feel hopeless. The Adjudicator: +10 dmg, +15 rounds... It's role is the heavier targets in the group, so you should be able to put them down quickly and not feel like you are mag dumping to kill just 1 or 2. You can killing the smaller bugs but like above, it would be a waste of ammo. ARs also just lack variety or characteristics that set them apart and create reasons to pick one over there other, imo you either take the Sickle or the Adjudicator as there is no reason to pick any of the other ARs. The Shotguns on the other hand have a lot more varied characteristics that separates them. There is a reason and scenario why you would pick 1 particular shotgun over the other but each have legitimate use as they each perform their role well. To prove this look at the Arc Blitzer, the Slugger(FFS bring the stagger back), and Plasma Punisher, each have a dmg of 250 but each fill a role well and are effective against certain enemies. Slugger is a great general use for both bugs and bots with Med armor pen, the blitzer is fantastic against the close encounters with ammo eating bugs, and the plasma punisher is extremely effective at killing and staggering all bots except the Hulk. Adding some characteristics to the ARs would also allow you to fiddle around more with dmg and magazine capacity, like a 100dmg AR with 60 mag capacity but it has a 5-round burst, great for mediums and up but crap for fodder. It's ok to specialize so long as it fulfills it's role well and feels distinct.
On the test server: one thing I’ve seen on other platforms is opening a beta for a limited amount of time when there’s a big update ready to go so that the crew isn’t totally overrun by having to maintain two servers at once. Idk if this is something for AH to look into since they seem to like the trickle method of adding content to the game but still putting it out there
i know the AH is a small team but they need to tone down warbond release so they dont get overwhelmed with all the weapons that they need to balance...im worry that they will give us 100 weapons and only 10 that is viable and they have to trouble themselves to balance out the rest 90 weapons on top of everything else that need fixings i think DRG is the only live service game that we don't find too much problem while playing as they take time to branch out their stuffs instead of "keep pumping out useless guns we called contents"
It's a monetary issue, teams requite a lot of funding to operate. After years in development you need to recoup your losses. Don't forget the production studio SONY in this case, is also getting a major (like 40% or more) cut of the sales. So while the devs are trying to balance everything out, they also need to feed their families like the rest of us. DLC is essentially the best way to do that and keep people interested at the same time.
It didn't take them weeks to remove the fun from every weapon, this delay on making weapons fun to use again is just going to lose them more players in order to satisfy the lead balance dev's pride at being a know-it-all that is never wrong. His attitude ruined one game in the past and its well on the way for Helldivers as well.
I figured out a tech with the r-36 eruptor where if you dive and shoot close to the ground it can give you extra space with no damage, but if you aim closer to your feet you get completely ragdolled and take damage, but it is countered with a stim before hand. Spread the word as no one listened to me.
Well they have given out some pretty big buffs before. Example: Flamethrower: 50% more dps to the spray; plus a number of buffs to fire DoT. Incendiary breaker: 33% more damage; plus a number of buffs to fire DoT. Arc Blitzer: 50% faster rate of fire Jar Dominator: a lot more stagger plus 50% more damage (since been reduced to just 37.5% more damage)
You don't need to add a test server, if you want to add new guns to the game, sprinkle them in as lootables throughout the mission, do it for like six plus. Randomly give players additional stratagems see what they do with them. Whenever this occurs, record the match.
My take for weapon balance is to have each weapon have a purpose. Burst Damage (High Damage, RPM, and recoil. Average reload and Mags size/count) Sustained Damage (High mag size. Average damage, RPM, recoil, reload, mag count) Consistent Damage (Fast reload and high mag count. Average damage, RPM, recoil, mag size) Things like that... 😢
I always figured for balance to really be useful it's gotta be a rock paper scissors kind of thing. An HMG should take out hulks, but get swamped by little dudes easily. For the most part that seems to work as is. TIP: Aim for the legs, not the eye. Makes life a lot easier.
When they nerf a weapon they might as well just remove it from the game altogether. Currently they remove FUN and we have to stop playing entirely before they bring it back. Oh amd they made the game more difficult + made the game more difficult if someone leaves i.e. kicked because the game has issues. So essentially, they are punishing players with harder difficulty, not fixing players involuntarily leaving due to game issues which also makes it more difficult because its programmed that way, then they take away decent weapons and spend all this time pushing new weapons & armor that tliterally NO ONE wants to use...
For all of you who play deep rock galactic has anbody else noticed lately one od the dwarves says "Im doing my part" and i dont remember hearing that before HD2 came out. Maybe a little nod to HD2 thrown in there?
I think AH could take a page from Destiny on making weapons and giving them their own feel, sound, and look. There's 10 auto rifles and 10 smgs, but everyone has their favorite, and they all feel good to shoot.
I dont wanna get to excited because the buffs they have done dont feel like anything so hopefully they take it serious and dont just change tiny bits just to shut us up
But don't you know that they akshually buffed more weapons then they nerfed til now? Yeah ok, the buffs were all like putting an extra 5hp on a 150hp car, while the nerfs were literal engine kill switches, but there's been more buffs mkay
That is the typical way Helldiver devs operate, they nerf things out of usability then make insignificant "buffs" to make it seem as though things are even with buffs and nerfs, when in reality the game just gets NERF NERF NERFED EVERY SINGLE PATCH.
@GalvanizeOO7 yea i feel like all damage for guns should start at 120 and go up from there and im talkin smgs. otherwise i dont notice a difference especially taking away schrapnel on the eruptor feels like that thing went from 760 to 400 ......
What are you people talking about? Mech is fantastic. It's an "Oh shit, I'm in danger" button for any bug mission out there, which allows you to counter whatever you facing on your own. Minigun shreds anything smaller then a charger, and you have enough rockets to take down ~5 chargers or 2-3 titans. What other single stratagem can do that? Moreover you're nearly completly immune when you're inside of it. the only thing that can stop you are chargers, which can be stunned with rockets or a huge amount of bile, which you generally can sidestep. Rockets ARE aligned correctly, you just need to use "Switch camera side" button for them to become a priority gun. Now, there's a problem that you can't use that without aiming first, and in terms of a Mech that means you need to constantly fire minigun. THIS needs to be fixed, I agree. Or, you know, just compensate a your rockets by aiming a little bit to the right.
I think the problem is, it's useless against bots. Which is true of every flame strat as well. Soooo the only things not good vs bugs is smoke and ballistic shield, but there are more than a few strats which are pointless vs bots. IIRC it's like 7 strats are totally pointless vs bots, but only about 2 vs bugs. Ultimately this will probably change if we get a different mech specialized for fighting bots, which would be nice. Think that's an autocannon mech that's in the works?
@@8-7-styx94 there aren't a lot of strategems or weapons that are universally good,and most top tier ones are only that in their specific niche. Nobody complains that dominator or counter sniper do not have enough bullets or firerate to deal with hoards of bugs, neither anybody complains that incendiary S&P lack damage for bots. Hell, 500 kg is next to useless on bots, and mandatory on bugs. So miss me with that "useless VS bots" argument.
The fact that the devs continue to back and forth nerf buff nerf buff is the primary reason I am no longer playing. Arrowhead you incompetent fools it’s PVE. Leave it alone you are killing your game.
If the devs are irritated that people use only the best support weapons. They should make the support stratagem choose 3 different weapons and you can call one of the 3 in. That way different weapons could be used for different circumstances.
I loved the mech against bugs, but it feels like they changed the way the rockets work. You have to aim next to what ever u want to hit, so it just feels bad to use them now :/
Okay, hear me out: A mech with a huge ass ballistic shield and a medium/high pen machine gun OR a laser cannon This could be good for automatons while now being too strong agai s terminids
The constant swarming of patrols, weapons degradation and OP bots is killing the fun of this game. Sony is going to screw the gamers over profit and will screw this game in drama. Quit the lip service a bring back the FUN!!!!!!
It's not our fault that developers complain about being under too much pressure trying to fix the disastrous updates they've made. From day one, we asked them to stop releasing updates and focus on fixing the errors. We care more about the quality of the game than the quantity. They've done the opposite because of the opinion of a minority, and now it's blowing up in their face.
First off they need to improve all weapons being worked on not make them worse. Secondly, I’m worried about another patch when we all know and have seen it will just break the game further.
The reason why Helldivers 2 is doing so well is because: 1) The game is fun to play 2) It only costs $40 where its pretty normal now to see games go for $70 3) It treats the players fairly in terms of monetization - no FOMO, can earn currency in game, etc 4) The game is fun to play! It being released on PC and PS5 at the same time helps, but I would not say that is what is making the game successful.
Let's see how they dig up the balance. It seems to me there are only two options. The first is that the developers will listen to the community and greatly enhance all weapons, which will lead to a total simplification of the game (fun). The second option is that they will simply change the meta.
Im 100% okay if they need time to catch up. they have already released a good game and for only 40 bucks it is well worth it. its such a relief to have a team that actually interacts with the community and any one throwing hate towards them is dumb as hell tbh lol. in my book arrow head did their job anything else is just icing on top.
burnout is real ... branches in flight while stuff in master queued up for delivery ... rinse repeat ... a PTR could help to tighten that loop but it's just another env to maintain never mind the infra / onboarding yadda yadda
Game is going one direction only,,, META. I was trying to use the railgun few days ago against automatons and in game i just realize its not much what you can do with it, you can argue that it can kill devastators and hulks and its a valid point but when you see 6 ships bringing 2 AT Striders, 2 tanks and a lot of hulks and devastators you realize you are not really helping your team. I don't know what are they going to do but this "balancing" subject look like a really hard task to pull.
Stylosa my guy. They are already maintaining two versions of the game. That's what the current patch, and the coming patch ARE. Having a test realm can only decrease the work they have UNLESS THEY ARE NOT DOING IT.
Sounds like they needed to cook the game a few more months. Shocked pikachu face. I wish they had honestly. Considering how the game blew up had the waited a bit longer and it was more polished... One wonders how much they are squashing bugs as opposed to creating content and making fun stuff.
they should do what runescape does and they put what they can add and then allow us to vote and it will only get put in if 75% of the players vote for it and we do that for content
They do that breaker fire version. And I’ll be a god. It’s already such a underrated gun. It’s better then scorcher with bugs. Trash tied with bots. But this gun can take down a titan if even a sliver of armour is off. Chargers will always be on fire just just left or right last second and literally any other bug is obliterated by it if your with another guy using this gun. Your basic a sun. Just a walking sun put this with the flamethrower and you’ve basically found cheats
I honestly have no clue what Sonys issue with reopening the blocked countries. Granted I'm not a businessman or anything but logically to me it could only be a good thing. Looking at it simply, more countries=more reach (that they don't \would have had otherwise)=more possible players=more sales=more profit. There isn't even logistical concerns as it's not a physical product. It just doesn't make sense
Couple reasons that the hd2 outrage sjw won't tell you. 1. Not enough people with ps5 in regions. Infrastructure would not make sense and waste of money. 2. Country or region have laws that banned or so many laws against sony ps 2. Corporate warfare. Steam knew about the linking, sold the game without a proper warning. Then used leverage or blackmail with the fans. And when Sony saw it with hd2 they yeeted ghosts of tsushima quick. 4 Japanese hack. The glitch identifying bought and earned super credits where refunding of earned as bought is fraud that is happening Some more reasons I currently forgot
@@denhawken @denhawken all very good points. However, to address some. 1. I'm only speaking in terms of the PC release. So who has a PS5 where, is irrelevant. While yes that affects where PSN support and infrastructure goes, PSN is no longer a requirement for PC players and thus not a limiting factor in regards to what PC players can buy the game. 2. This is most likely the most valid and important point and certainly applies to a fair portion of the countries and regions affected. 3. Though not impossible I find it unlikely as Steam would also stand to gain from the larger market space. As far as the requirement warning it is still there. So it has and is posted, but I absolutely agree that it should have been made more clear and should have been placed with the system requirements as well . 4. While yes it's obviously total fraud that covers only 1 country out of 180 and just reading patch notes measures are\have been taken to prevent further incidents. It would likely ease up tensions if we were to get some announcement as to what countries \ regions are affected by such laws as to prevent PC sales and play as that makes that situation completely out of Arrowheads, Sony and Steams hands.
@@Shantros yes the listed areas are due to either not enough infrastructure, countries laws that sony cannot sell there, or even in the case of Japan where the Japanese are farming supercredits and asking for refunds. You can only refund bought supercredits nit earned. Japan glitch hack causing issues. It was always mandatory with the linking. It's sonys exclusive platform game. Linking is necessary to cross-platform effectively and then the major bugs can be worked on. I own it on both ps5 and steam. Ove been playing mostly on steam. When I linked up to steam. None of my data carried over. Arrowhead said they must solve the linking issue first.. so that is the bs drama we are going through now. Some pc players will leave stomp and cry their way out.. I like the game I will play.. if I didn't like it I would of left.. good words by Spitz to say such..
@@Shantros but I hope best case scenario is ps5 will grandfather in those fooled by steam.. be nice.. but realistically by corporate warefare and business practice.. if you want to play a ps5 exclusive game... it's link up time. Sony saw what happened to hd2 with steam and yeeted ghosts of tsushima quick this time around.
@@denhawken the rub is in reality it is not a PS5 exclusive. It's also on PC. linking accounts is not necessary for cross platform play. As a recent example of this would be Darktide. Not a single PC player was required or so much as asked to link to an Xbox account to play with Xbox players. Monster hunter world being an even better example. No PC player had to link a Xbox account or PSN account to play with the other players respectfully. Nor did any Xbox player have to link to a PSN account to play with PS5 players or vise versa. I sincerely doubt Steam attempted anything malicious. It's far more likely that they were told to release in the countries it originally did by Sony. Odds are someone on Sonys legal team dropped the ball and failed to properly relay what countries they couldn't sell to. Steam is a distributor if they sell outside where they are supposed to because they were told to (accidentally or not) that's not on Steam.
People are sleeping on the patriot mech against bots. I use it every drop lvl 7 bots. Be aware of any canons and dont waste your rockets. They can 1v1 a factory walker..... 3 rockets for the turret and ive not seen one eat more than 9 rockets to the face. Thats crazy powerful. Yes sometimes i goes shit but 80% of the time i hop out of an empty mech with multiple heavies and a swathe of light and medium armor dead.
The crossbow was too good at doing it's job. It has no sound. Everyone was using it. It destroyed everything. It needed to be nerfed so it takes at least two shots to kill a hunter. Now it is balanced. /s
Pilestedt is fucking carrying his team and pr right now what a gigachad
Literally his job.
Balance devs should feel embarrassed and ashamed. Johan is a saint for not firing them.
@@Max_Ohm pr is supposed to be the community manager's job but they're shit so he has to do it himself
@@anonnymus3652 at the end of the day, if nobody else can do it he has to. That's why he gets paid the big bucks :)
@@Max_Ohm Yeah but all the time he wastes doing someone else's job is time he's not spending on more meaningful work
Putting polls in the game in the form of a voting machine would be funny.
The problem is canonically voting is done by ai suited to the individual person. They don't choose the ai assigned to them votes for them
@@brokenwing51 Then R&D polls on their weapon development, "Hello Helldiver! How do you like our new invention!" kind of thing, it would fit, and make realistic sense.
@@brokenwing51is that applied to all votes that occur or major ones like for the world leader?
@NathanTruby it's all votes. You can tell by the both the ladies in the ship you can talk to how they discuss the new voting system and how they couldn't imagine having to actually vote by hand
@@brokenwing51
"Hah! Imagine. Everyone would just become political experts overnight."
The devs need to remember that this is a PVE game. They have been buffing/nerfing stuff more than CoD has done in 24 months which makes absolutely no sense.
Update from below after people lost it:
I stand by what I wrote. Adjusting the difficulty of a game like Helldivers 2 can be done in mutiple ways that are far less controversial than adjusting the weapons. For example by changing the stats of the enemies (damage/speed/health) or the frequency/count they spawn etc. It would be way easier to fine-tune it that way, especially on a mission by mission level and it even opens up for A/B-testing. Changing the weapons all the time makes no sense what so ever, unless there are some things that are broken. Look for example at breaches/bot drops. You could easily tweak the count/type/cooldown, you name it. There are so many parameters in this game that could be tweaked instead of just making erratic changes to the weapons.
Sorry but the eruptor killing chargers was wrong. The shrapnel removal coulda been improved but yeah the balancing was necessary
This argument is so stupid because there are PvE games that are made to be challenging - like GTFO for instance
Because they expected 20k players max. Then they got half a mil concurrent with over 10 million copies sold.
They had to immediately rethink the whole balance of the game, including planet liberation, spawn rates etc to account for the sheer amount of players.
The game needs to be fun yet challenging and I imagine they had to start rethinking their whole approach when player count went through the roof.
@@DroosterH Except they nerf what was already shit into more shit and then nerfing whatever worked or was fun to the ground. Their “balancing” is just them hating the player base and nerfing whatever is popular at the moment. It’s all frustration and no fun/reward
The only things they’ve really done to need weapons has been reduced magazines for practically infinite ammo rifles and balanced the rail gun. It was op af. Same with the quasar. It made other weapons obsolete. It still does even with an increased cooldown.
The one rifle Eruptor mess was an attempted fix. Womp womp.
Other than, there hasn’t been anything meaningful nerf wise.
The rail gun nerf was actually positive because the player base had to grow and learn not to rely on the rail gun crutch.
They’ve made a couple of missteps, but the nerfs were not bad and there have been loads of buffs.
It’s disheartening to see the communities poor reactions to many things.
If you look under the "Known Issues" section for this latest patch, they've practically announced they're going to buff the Tenderizer as it is doing "too little damage" and is not in the state they are intending.
Playing the nerfed weapons is as feel good as scratching the itch from a bile titans acidic asscrack.
@@SmoggyFroggy Oh do shut up.
@@DroosterH Why don't you practice what you preach pal? Kick rocks.
I wonder if damage values are harder to change than just putting a different number.
and some people were defending the guns stats....
If the CEO has to have multiple meetings with Devs over "balance" in a PVE game, it might be time to let someone go and find a replacement. It's getting silly
I've managed to play with pre nerfed eruptor for just 1 week, a crossbow for 3 missions. Now I regret purchasing previous warbond, because all weapons got heavily nerfed.
Eruptor was so much fun while it was good, but I'm glad they've yet to nerf my beloved defender SMG
yeah, tho the adjudicator is genuinely good now
@sadghfajdslhgsadklgk
Its not “good” but its probably the only genuinely useable AR on higher difficulties.
@sadghfajdslhgsadklgk it really isn't. The damage is alright, but the fire rate isn't great, and the recoil is to significant to full auto at long range, making your dps pretty awful unless they're close up.
I hadn't unlocked the crossbow by the time it was nerfed. For this reason I chose not to immediately buy the new war bond. I want to wait 2-3 weeks and see how they change them before spending real money on them.
Nothing they have done balance-wise has made the game more fun.
Biggest problem with the game.
Every single weapon in the game that has come from a Warbond is either borderline useless or is fun... Then gets nerfed into paste. What's the point in buying any of these Warbonds if the weapons just turn crap or already are crap? Both Deomcractic Detonation and the newest Bond aren't worth buying now.
Flamethrower, breaker incendiary
I disagree. The buff to flamethrower? The stagger added to arc thrower?
Remember when they let rocket launchers one-shot chargers? Yea lets revert that it wasn’t fun… goofy
@@gangsterguardsman4576they still one-shot chargers lmao
This is great communication from Twinbeard. Simply acknowledging and informing can go so far even without any immediate action.
3 minutes in and u said nothing of substance outside the screenshot of the CM
He’s just like every other “content” creator. They just review, give the same information that every other one does, but nothing special.
bloated overlength zero information videos. I keep clicking "do not recommend videos from this channel" but somehow there is always one more channel producing this nonsense content. "content"
Many such cases
True but not nearly as bad as cloud plays. That dude seemed to spam my feed.
Give this man a dislike all he do is click bait like bro there's plenty of games to make news about stop bating us into these fake news
I don't want balance. I want fun. I couldn't care less if someone else is using an OP weapon as king as the weapon I like is still really good.
How you would like to be kicked for not using meta weapon? Because that was very common on diff9 during pre nerf railgun era.
@@Steir12Never happened to me, could be cuz im lvl 150 so people dont care about what i run
@Steir12
I don't know what part of the multiverse you're from, but in this universe, that guy got flamed for being an idiot. Also meta-cringe reddit brains will exist, and kick you, regardless of the quality of the weapons you use. In fact, if all the weapons are weaker than they are now, the probability increases as the meta weapons would be "the ones that actually work" if all weapons are viable it'll take longer for reddit brains to ruin the fun
The "balance" is neither balancing nor enhancing fun.
@@Steir12 thats an issue with the players, also wasn't common at all stop making stuff up.
Yeah. I just uninstalled the game after 15 min of endless battle on main objective. And it is not first time. Freaking spawnfest out of nowhere straight in to your face. Game become too frustrating to play right now. I need to take a mental break. I have maxed out everything, i've keep played because i enjoyed the game but now its just a nerf fest with broken spawn system.
35k players online earlier when we had 150k on a few days back.
Does not look good.
Game will be dead in 6 months the way the devs are operating. I'm not even upset about it the way they have shot themselves in the foot so many times.
Please also understand that a lot players got tired of playing it day after day for weeks. A lot players might play something else as a break. And then all drama with PSN linking and balance issue also doesn't help. But I have already noticed players drop before all current the issues we're discussed. And I also took break for 2 weeks and played other games.
I'm playing Deep Rock Galactic ATM. Been playing HD2 for months. Needed something else.
They just have to fix the worst bugs and then release a new super awesome weapon, new map or something; and they will be back in business.
Yeah the devs been through a lot of stress after PSN and there trying to stand up and get on track, the reason why the game skyrocketed because of videos, TikTok, and the memes, but after awhile the hype died down. And after the fallout show people definitely switched over to there games. The players were going to drop anyways because that’s every live service games. Goes the same with FN, apex, overwatch, among us, etc. But even then, still enjoy the quality of the game compared to other live service games
I really hope they can get it right, this game has absolutely incredible potential! Spawns of patrols in particular (even at 4 players) is a huge one as well as weapon balancing.
I was really excited for some buffs this morning but nothing… They’ve been talking about buffs for almost 4 weeks when are they gonna actually do it
Ceo had to talk to balancing team first and remind them damage isn't the only factor
TLDR: Game is currently not fun. Devs are discussing lack of said fun and the game may be fun in the future. No promises.
Honestly i think people who played for 500+ hours (!) are just burnt out. They think it's not fun because devs messed up something but in reality game just doesn't feel fresh to them anymore and they're tired. Too bad they are the ones that shape community consensus.
@@Steir12 Just speaking for myself here. I hit 250 hours and I was playing for over a week daily with all upgrades, warbonds complete, samples/medals/req. capped just for the fun of it right up until the April 29th nerf patch. 3 of my 4 load out items got hit and it became more of a grind than fun. Add in the Sony nonsense as the cherry on top. I am currently account suspended for TOS violations after closing my PSN account this past Saturday just as an extra FU from Sony.
@@Steir12 I was at 400+hrs before the "balance" patch hit. I still tried to play a couple solos a night during my lunchbreak but the increased spawn rate + all my favorite weapons being broken or shite + I hate SMG/AR/Shotgun gameplay means I "burnt out". I wasn't having fun. I'm still not having fun.
@@DarkRavenhaft 513hrs. Still want to play the game but am sick of how unplayable it is now. People talk of "burn out" when in fact it's the objective fact the game has had all the fun nerfed out of it. Even the CEO acknowledges "as soon as someone finds something fun, we remove the fun".
It's not burn out, it's refusing to play a game that has changed so much that the fun no longer exists - or is so infrequent it doesn't warrant playing.
They can rush out the nerfs with no rhyme or reason but when it comes to making the game more fun to play they take their sweet ass time.
Let's just hope that AH walks the balance team back to making the game fun like it was before. Normal enemy spawns, and all good weapons
I'm done till the balance patch. Discussing balance has been a week long discussion. Throwing us a bone this patch was not expecting that much.
Did you not watch the rest of the video? The dev team is absolutely burnt out. They expects to have 10k peak players and they are the fastest selling playstation game of all time. They are literally struggling on multiple fronts. And all you can do is sit and moan.
Just crack on anyway, have some dignity instead of whining. They'll get to it as they are doing and have been doing.
@@ReynoldGreenlefe177the team is burned out from ruining the game? 🤣
@@thenooticer7392 you're weak minded and just suck at the game.
Burnt out from being an indie dev that expected to have 10k peak players. Is now the fastest selling playstation game of all time.....
They've had emergency buy new servers, hire new staff, try and keep up with the content schedules, patching and now Sony nuking the player base.
Do you think the Spartans at the hot gates moaned the Persians had lighter spears?
What happened to men?
@@ReynoldGreenlefe177 the only one who is whining is you. The guy said he was done, but here you are complaining that he doesn't want to play anymore.
Is very ironic that now the "meta" of primary weapon (againts bots) is the DR counter sniper which almost never change since the game released 😅
Is it though? I find that the Scorcher, Punisher Plasma, and Dominator are the most widely used weapons against bots.
@@KillFrenzy96 If you're accurate with your shots the DR CS is king at the moment due to one shotting devastators to the head. Take the redeemer and switch to semi to handle the smaller infantry and strategems for the heavies.
My brother in christ it was near useles until latest patch when it was buffed to onetap devastators in the head. It was literally "dilegence but worse".
@@KillFrenzy96 Countersniper is great when everything goes smoothly you can kill multiple devastators in a blink of an eye. When things get a bit hectic you will wish u had dominator.
6:26 This is what infuriates me to no end with this game. They want you to be super accurate yet the recoil, flinch, sway and handling all work against you and on top of that, they want to rain enemies down on you. Couple that with the constant weapon nerfs that makes dealing with them a chore and it gets very unfun very fast.
Just crouch or lay down for ultra accuracy, that’s why there’s a dive
@@TinToastCan Let me know how that goes when your being swarmed by hunters and there are 2 stalkers aswell oh and the random charger that stealth attacks and don't get me started on the bile Spewer nuking you from 40 feet away because reason's. Being accurate when your under pressure and panicking is a little difficult.
I'm rarely a get good andy, but I'm almost 40 years old and got those old man reflexes and I have no trouble aiming in this game. So if I can do it, anyone can.
@@rupertbear4447 Don't trigger so many patrols then? Fight what you've got and try your damn best not to bring in everything else. Most randos just keep running around, stand your ground and fight!
Remember you've got a bag of tricks a mile wide to use; grenades, smokes, stuns, flames of all sorts, lightning bolts, turrets and cannon shells raining down from the sky with absolute impunity.
Every single diver is a one man army. Too many little bugs? Bring some wide area attacks to swat them, team not listening? Walk. The. Hell. Away. Big bugs? They can EAT this and smoke off.
TLDR? Don't trigger a mess when you can be smarter about how you engage. Big swarms are a result of bad trigger discipline or bad target priorities. Chargers, and Bile titans are not the most dangerous shit out there, those little scavenger bastards are, cause they keep calling more in.
@@8-7-styx94 who said anything about triggering patrols? I know how to play this game got over 300 hrs now. He was talking about accuracy and the sway of the weapons and i said it could be difficult when your under pressure
Never would've thought I would be as early as this to watching democratic information
IMO they need to buff things sure, but also need to evaluate some functionalities/interactions, I`m going to give a few examples.
-Have it so the ammo backpack can refill turret strategems.
-Have it so you can call in ammo box for the Mech, so it can be repaired and re-armed.
-Adjust the CD on strategems, some of the CD makes zero sense, why the 380mm has the same CD as the 120mm?
-Add variations instead of punishments for planets traits, like, the AA that makes you lose 1 strategem? Yes but also you get (-50% CD on turret stratems, has an example). Or you can`t use Eagle Strikes, but all other strategems are dropped faster and the barrages have double the ammo. Strategems takes longer to deploy but now you can carry 5 instead of 4.
-Make it so the Heavy Machine Gun can pierce Bots armor, any bot armor, except the Factory Strider, also it should pen chargers and Bile Titans.
Improve existing stragems, like Eagle Rocket, make it so it attacks twice instead of just once, this can be an upgrade that uses samples.
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The slugger in a good place and its nerf that was needed because people where using it as a sniper
@@nootsgaming5517no it wasn't because the nerf had nothing to do with it being a sniper dude. If it was then they would've nerfed the range which they literally didn't do. They nerfed the damage, destruction capability and the stagger. Now the first 2 nerfs i can consider but nerfing its stagger which was it's sole ability was not justified and had nothing to do with it "being a sniper" it's nerf made no sense to the reason
@@nootsgaming5517 That's the stupidest reason I've ever heard for nerfing a shotgun, "It's too good of a sniper so instead of buffing the 2 underperforming snipers, we'll just nerf the only good thing, what a great idea!"
@@somethingmissing7108 and don't slug rounds actually have pretty far ranges even for shotguns, do while even if not a sniper shouldn't it still have a fair distance?
The best part of this particular set of patch notes is in the known issues and you didn't even bother to talk about that yet
IMO balance patches from now on in Helldivers 2 should focus on buffs, remember, this is a PVE game not a PVP game
The balances issue is weird because most of this things were sort out in Helldivers 1, most of the weapons felt good and powerful, mechs were amazing and you had a small window to exit the vehicle before it exploded etc.
Game is honestly miserable to play right now
I just want the more of the warbond weapons to be more viable, and the strategems to be geared for handling the more armored enemies to a better degree. They don’t want us to use the same strategy, but if they nerf everything we’re ONLY going to use what works. I still love the game, but that needs to change fr, so I’m glad they’re at least meeting about it.
I hope they don't slow down the warbond releases. I need something to spend my medals and super credits since I'm max on everything except super credits. Slowly I'm buying everything from the super store too.
No.. we don’t need a warbond. Every dam month. We need the game to be fixed first. And then. Add war bonds
00:31 this is why I don’t run impact grenades on bots
if you look at Arrowheads past library (did you play magicka?) weak pointless primary guns are kind of the point. its to funnel you into risking the barely controlled chaos of big attacks or starts int his game. they seem to be shifting to what the cod bros want
Having an in-game voting booth for polls would be awesome considering we just got a victory pose that is literally "passing out ballots"
Considering how often they mention ballots, you'd figure they'd have "voting" (filling out preferences) in game.
@Stylosa, I don't think new mechs are coming anytime soon mainly because of how they're implemented currently. Let me explain it like this, how many turrets can you bring to a mission and how many can you deploy at once? With that answer in mind, imagine having 3-4 exo-suit stratagems on deck and you basically run through all 8 of them through out the mission. You run one either dry or until it nearly blows up (or does) and then you call in another, rinse and repeat. With enough smarts (not really skill just more self restraint and know how of when to progress and when to hold back) someone could realistically just be playing MechWarrior: HellDivers 2 edition. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but then the exo-suits would need rebalancing to make them not so OP so that such a tactic (having 4 exo-suits deployed on the mission ALL the time for the entire mission) isn't broken, which either results in the exo-suits not being worth the stratagem slot for how fast they die OR enemies end up getting buffed to the point you will need an exo-suit to take on a scavenger and not burn through all of your ammo.
Don't get me wrong on that either. It would be so much fun and chaos to have like the flame suit, AC suit, and then like an artillery big-ol' cannon suit, but that's a lot of changing the game from Helldivers to Titanfall. Some kind of new "vehicle/exo-suit" designated stratagem slot will need to be created to limit how many we can take. Otherwise, we're going to just have a "Mech Meta" that will get nerfed to the ground. I can't take credit for this POV as I read an article pointing this out and I think it's pretty valid. I mean you can run an all eagle build, an all turret build, and an all orbital build. There'd be nothing stopping you from doing an all mech build if they added more without any kind of restraints.
At the very least, all ARs need a dmg buff of 5-10 and a magazine capacity increase of 15-30 rounds based upon the role it should be fulfilling. The main reason for just these two stats increases is that your trigger time vs what you effectively kill is currently awful, (it's why the Sickle feels good despite obvious trouble with healthier targets). For example...
The Tenderizer: +5 dmg, +30 rounds... It's role is to clear up small targets with its light armor pen. You'll still dump a considerable amount of ammo into a brood commander but you'll kill it within a full mag. It's a waste of ammo but you can do it and not feel hopeless.
The Adjudicator: +10 dmg, +15 rounds... It's role is the heavier targets in the group, so you should be able to put them down quickly and not feel like you are mag dumping to kill just 1 or 2. You can killing the smaller bugs but like above, it would be a waste of ammo.
ARs also just lack variety or characteristics that set them apart and create reasons to pick one over there other, imo you either take the Sickle or the Adjudicator as there is no reason to pick any of the other ARs. The Shotguns on the other hand have a lot more varied characteristics that separates them. There is a reason and scenario why you would pick 1 particular shotgun over the other but each have legitimate use as they each perform their role well. To prove this look at the Arc Blitzer, the Slugger(FFS bring the stagger back), and Plasma Punisher, each have a dmg of 250 but each fill a role well and are effective against certain enemies. Slugger is a great general use for both bugs and bots with Med armor pen, the blitzer is fantastic against the close encounters with ammo eating bugs, and the plasma punisher is extremely effective at killing and staggering all bots except the Hulk. Adding some characteristics to the ARs would also allow you to fiddle around more with dmg and magazine capacity, like a 100dmg AR with 60 mag capacity but it has a 5-round burst, great for mediums and up but crap for fodder. It's ok to specialize so long as it fulfills it's role well and feels distinct.
On the test server: one thing I’ve seen on other platforms is opening a beta for a limited amount of time when there’s a big update ready to go so that the crew isn’t totally overrun by having to maintain two servers at once. Idk if this is something for AH to look into since they seem to like the trickle method of adding content to the game but still putting it out there
Every weapon should feel unique, useful , powerful, and fun .
i know the AH is a small team but they need to tone down warbond release so they dont get overwhelmed with all the weapons that they need to balance...im worry that they will give us 100 weapons and only 10 that is viable and they have to trouble themselves to balance out the rest 90 weapons on top of everything else that need fixings
i think DRG is the only live service game that we don't find too much problem while playing as they take time to branch out their stuffs instead of "keep pumping out useless guns we called contents"
It's a monetary issue, teams requite a lot of funding to operate. After years in development you need to recoup your losses. Don't forget the production studio SONY in this case, is also getting a major (like 40% or more) cut of the sales. So while the devs are trying to balance everything out, they also need to feed their families like the rest of us. DLC is essentially the best way to do that and keep people interested at the same time.
It didn't take them weeks to remove the fun from every weapon, this delay on making weapons fun to use again is just going to lose them more players in order to satisfy the lead balance dev's pride at being a know-it-all that is never wrong. His attitude ruined one game in the past and its well on the way for Helldivers as well.
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I figured out a tech with the r-36 eruptor where if you dive and shoot close to the ground it can give you extra space with no damage, but if you aim closer to your feet you get completely ragdolled and take damage, but it is countered with a stim before hand. Spread the word as no one listened to me.
Quad barrell shotgun pistol (secondary). Single loads x4 punisher rounds. Great panic backup secondary.
Arrowhead: slightly buffing a weapon's whatever insignificant stat.
Stylosa: "HuGe WeApOn ChAnGeS RAAAAAAGH!"
Well they have given out some pretty big buffs before.
Example:
Flamethrower: 50% more dps to the spray; plus a number of buffs to fire DoT.
Incendiary breaker: 33% more damage; plus a number of buffs to fire DoT.
Arc Blitzer: 50% faster rate of fire
Jar Dominator: a lot more stagger plus 50% more damage (since been reduced to just 37.5% more damage)
AH CEO is likely holding out for Sony situation to settle more before issuing the cape out.
Put a polling machine next to the "arcade" in the ship.
You don't need to add a test server, if you want to add new guns to the game, sprinkle them in as lootables throughout the mission, do it for like six plus. Randomly give players additional stratagems see what they do with them. Whenever this occurs, record the match.
My take for weapon balance is to have each weapon have a purpose.
Burst Damage (High Damage, RPM, and recoil. Average reload and Mags size/count)
Sustained Damage (High mag size. Average damage, RPM, recoil, reload, mag count)
Consistent Damage (Fast reload and high mag count. Average damage, RPM, recoil, mag size)
Things like that... 😢
I always figured for balance to really be useful it's gotta be a rock paper scissors kind of thing. An HMG should take out hulks, but get swamped by little dudes easily. For the most part that seems to work as is.
TIP: Aim for the legs, not the eye. Makes life a lot easier.
Hopefully we start to see more games being launched multi platform moving forward.
Keeping the videos coming. I enjoy listening to the. On my commute to work.
When they nerf a weapon they might as well just remove it from the game altogether. Currently they remove FUN and we have to stop playing entirely before they bring it back.
Oh amd they made the game more difficult + made the game more difficult if someone leaves i.e. kicked because the game has issues.
So essentially, they are punishing players with harder difficulty, not fixing players involuntarily leaving due to game issues which also makes it more difficult because its programmed that way, then they take away decent weapons and spend all this time pushing new weapons & armor that tliterally NO ONE wants to use...
For all of you who play deep rock galactic has anbody else noticed lately one od the dwarves says "Im doing my part" and i dont remember hearing that before HD2 came out. Maybe a little nod to HD2 thrown in there?
Did they do something to the heavy devastators? They are spawning like crazy and are worse then the hulks...
I think AH could take a page from Destiny on making weapons and giving them their own feel, sound, and look. There's 10 auto rifles and 10 smgs, but everyone has their favorite, and they all feel good to shoot.
The Test server map should be on Mars in my opinion
They should just give all WIP stratagems as those temporary stratagems that everyone gets sometimes. It would definitely add to immersion.
I dont wanna get to excited because the buffs they have done dont feel like anything so hopefully they take it serious and dont just change tiny bits just to shut us up
But don't you know that they akshually buffed more weapons then they nerfed til now? Yeah ok, the buffs were all like putting an extra 5hp on a 150hp car, while the nerfs were literal engine kill switches, but there's been more buffs mkay
That is the typical way Helldiver devs operate, they nerf things out of usability then make insignificant "buffs" to make it seem as though things are even with buffs and nerfs, when in reality the game just gets NERF NERF NERFED EVERY SINGLE PATCH.
@GalvanizeOO7 yea i feel like all damage for guns should start at 120 and go up from there and im talkin smgs. otherwise i dont notice a difference especially taking away schrapnel on the eruptor feels like that thing went from 760 to 400 ......
They’re almost pulling a destiny 2 with the constant changes to already good guns making them ether ok or below average
What are you people talking about? Mech is fantastic. It's an "Oh shit, I'm in danger" button for any bug mission out there, which allows you to counter whatever you facing on your own. Minigun shreds anything smaller then a charger, and you have enough rockets to take down ~5 chargers or 2-3 titans. What other single stratagem can do that? Moreover you're nearly completly immune when you're inside of it. the only thing that can stop you are chargers, which can be stunned with rockets or a huge amount of bile, which you generally can sidestep.
Rockets ARE aligned correctly, you just need to use "Switch camera side" button for them to become a priority gun. Now, there's a problem that you can't use that without aiming first, and in terms of a Mech that means you need to constantly fire minigun. THIS needs to be fixed, I agree. Or, you know, just compensate a your rockets by aiming a little bit to the right.
I think the problem is, it's useless against bots. Which is true of every flame strat as well. Soooo the only things not good vs bugs is smoke and ballistic shield, but there are more than a few strats which are pointless vs bots. IIRC it's like 7 strats are totally pointless vs bots, but only about 2 vs bugs. Ultimately this will probably change if we get a different mech specialized for fighting bots, which would be nice. Think that's an autocannon mech that's in the works?
@@8-7-styx94 there aren't a lot of strategems or weapons that are universally good,and most top tier ones are only that in their specific niche. Nobody complains that dominator or counter sniper do not have enough bullets or firerate to deal with hoards of bugs, neither anybody complains that incendiary S&P lack damage for bots. Hell, 500 kg is next to useless on bots, and mandatory on bugs. So miss me with that "useless VS bots" argument.
12 Million? where? can´t see them do the major order.... 🤔
The fact that the devs continue to back and forth nerf buff nerf buff is the primary reason I am no longer playing. Arrowhead you incompetent fools it’s PVE. Leave it alone you are killing your game.
If the devs are irritated that people use only the best support weapons. They should make the support stratagem choose 3 different weapons and you can call one of the 3 in. That way different weapons could be used for different circumstances.
I loved the mech against bugs, but it feels like they changed the way the rockets work. You have to aim next to what ever u want to hit, so it just feels bad to use them now :/
Okay, hear me out:
A mech with a huge ass ballistic shield and a medium/high pen machine gun OR a laser cannon
This could be good for automatons while now being too strong agai s terminids
I just imagine your ancestors looking down upon you and being disappointed
As long as your making vids I’ll be watching them ❤
literally stopped playing the game because they keep nerfing weapons
love the game
but still cant play
100% crashing, force reboots the pc too
ITS BEEN LIKE THIS FOR MONTHS NOW
Making snow balls causing you to leave your body and view the entire map from the sky and not being able to do anything 😅
Just need to wait for Spear fix
The constant swarming of patrols, weapons degradation and OP bots is killing the fun of this game. Sony is going to screw the gamers over profit and will screw this game in drama. Quit the lip service a bring back the FUN!!!!!!
It's not our fault that developers complain about being under too much pressure trying to fix the disastrous updates they've made. From day one, we asked them to stop releasing updates and focus on fixing the errors. We care more about the quality of the game than the quantity. They've done the opposite because of the opinion of a minority, and now it's blowing up in their face.
Ah yes, the “primary” weapons that I use more like secondaries
First off they need to improve all weapons being worked on not make them worse.
Secondly, I’m worried about another patch when we all know and have seen it will just break the game further.
The reason why Helldivers 2 is doing so well is because:
1) The game is fun to play
2) It only costs $40 where its pretty normal now to see games go for $70
3) It treats the players fairly in terms of monetization - no FOMO, can earn currency in game, etc
4) The game is fun to play!
It being released on PC and PS5 at the same time helps, but I would not say that is what is making the game successful.
Let's see how they dig up the balance. It seems to me there are only two options. The first is that the developers will listen to the community and greatly enhance all weapons, which will lead to a total simplification of the game (fun). The second option is that they will simply change the meta.
I just want eruptor' shrapnel back :(
Im 100% okay if they need time to catch up. they have already released a good game and for only 40 bucks it is well worth it. its such a relief to have a team that actually interacts with the community and any one throwing hate towards them is dumb as hell tbh lol. in my book arrow head did their job anything else is just icing on top.
burnout is real ... branches in flight while stuff in master queued up for delivery ... rinse repeat ... a PTR could help to tighten that loop but it's just another env to maintain never mind the infra / onboarding yadda yadda
AR's need 100 round mags as standard just like in Aliens. We already have the Predator (Stalker) so why not? 🤣
Game is going one direction only,,, META. I was trying to use the railgun few days ago against automatons and in game i just realize its not much what you can do with it, you can argue that it can kill devastators and hulks and its a valid point but when you see 6 ships bringing 2 AT Striders, 2 tanks and a lot of hulks and devastators you realize you are not really helping your team. I don't know what are they going to do but this "balancing" subject look like a really hard task to pull.
We not gonna talk about him throwing 4 impact nades at a fabricator and failing to destroy it?
No wonder the ame is suffering so much, the psn shit cost much time and the countries that cannot play or buy the game are also a drag...
I'm not coming back until the games fixed. It's not fun to play right now.
12M x $40 = Arrowhead has made at least half a billion dollars on HD2. Hopefully a lot of that is reinvested into the game and it only gets better.
they added accout linking first.... most farking important thing first... right?
I hope for KEYBOARD and MOUSE SUPPORT for the PS5 version of game.
Stylosa my guy. They are already maintaining two versions of the game. That's what the current patch, and the coming patch ARE. Having a test realm can only decrease the work they have UNLESS THEY ARE NOT DOING IT.
Sounds like they needed to cook the game a few more months. Shocked pikachu face. I wish they had honestly. Considering how the game blew up had the waited a bit longer and it was more polished... One wonders how much they are squashing bugs as opposed to creating content and making fun stuff.
Crashes feel less frequent from my end.
still not fixing the horrendous optimization? well bold move helldivers
Man I don't know. People seem to jump straight to massive negative attitude, reminds me of D2
So sick of constant charger spawns man😂😭 when they gone fix the patrols???
I wonder if we ever get a count on the number of refunds.
they should do what runescape does and they put what they can add and then allow us to vote and it will only get put in if 75% of the players vote for it and we do that for content
They do that breaker fire version. And I’ll be a god. It’s already such a underrated gun. It’s better then scorcher with bugs. Trash tied with bots. But this gun can take down a titan if even a sliver of armour is off. Chargers will always be on fire just just left or right last second and literally any other bug is obliterated by it if your with another guy using this gun. Your basic a sun. Just a walking sun put this with the flamethrower and you’ve basically found cheats
I honestly have no clue what Sonys issue with reopening the blocked countries. Granted I'm not a businessman or anything but logically to me it could only be a good thing. Looking at it simply, more countries=more reach (that they don't \would have had otherwise)=more possible players=more sales=more profit. There isn't even logistical concerns as it's not a physical product. It just doesn't make sense
Couple reasons that the hd2 outrage sjw won't tell you.
1. Not enough people with ps5 in regions. Infrastructure would not make sense and waste of money.
2. Country or region have laws that banned or so many laws against sony ps
2. Corporate warfare. Steam knew about the linking, sold the game without a proper warning. Then used leverage or blackmail with the fans. And when Sony saw it with hd2 they yeeted ghosts of tsushima quick.
4 Japanese hack. The glitch identifying bought and earned super credits where refunding of earned as bought is fraud that is happening
Some more reasons I currently forgot
@@denhawken @denhawken all very good points. However, to address some.
1. I'm only speaking in terms of the PC release. So who has a PS5 where, is irrelevant. While yes that affects where PSN support and infrastructure goes, PSN is no longer a requirement for PC players and thus not a limiting factor in regards to what PC players can buy the game.
2. This is most likely the most valid and important point and certainly applies to a fair portion of the countries and regions affected.
3. Though not impossible I find it unlikely as Steam would also stand to gain from the larger market space. As far as the requirement warning it is still there. So it has and is posted, but I absolutely agree that it should have been made more clear and should have been placed with the system requirements as well .
4. While yes it's obviously total fraud that covers only 1 country out of 180 and just reading patch notes measures are\have been taken to prevent further incidents.
It would likely ease up tensions if we were to get some announcement as to what countries \ regions are affected by such laws as to prevent PC sales and play as that makes that situation completely out of Arrowheads, Sony and Steams hands.
@@Shantros yes the listed areas are due to either not enough infrastructure, countries laws that sony cannot sell there, or even in the case of Japan where the Japanese are farming supercredits and asking for refunds. You can only refund bought supercredits nit earned. Japan glitch hack causing issues.
It was always mandatory with the linking. It's sonys exclusive platform game. Linking is necessary to cross-platform effectively and then the major bugs can be worked on.
I own it on both ps5 and steam. Ove been playing mostly on steam. When I linked up to steam. None of my data carried over. Arrowhead said they must solve the linking issue first.. so that is the bs drama we are going through now.
Some pc players will leave stomp and cry their way out.. I like the game I will play.. if I didn't like it I would of left.. good words by Spitz to say such..
@@Shantros but I hope best case scenario is ps5 will grandfather in those fooled by steam.. be nice.. but realistically by corporate warefare and business practice.. if you want to play a ps5 exclusive game... it's link up time.
Sony saw what happened to hd2 with steam and yeeted ghosts of tsushima quick this time around.
@@denhawken the rub is in reality it is not a PS5 exclusive. It's also on PC. linking accounts is not necessary for cross platform play. As a recent example of this would be Darktide. Not a single PC player was required or so much as asked to link to an Xbox account to play with Xbox players. Monster hunter world being an even better example. No PC player had to link a Xbox account or PSN account to play with the other players respectfully. Nor did any Xbox player have to link to a PSN account to play with PS5 players or vise versa.
I sincerely doubt Steam attempted anything malicious. It's far more likely that they were told to release in the countries it originally did by Sony. Odds are someone on Sonys legal team dropped the ball and failed to properly relay what countries they couldn't sell to. Steam is a distributor if they sell outside where they are supposed to because they were told to (accidentally or not) that's not on Steam.
trying to destroy that bot fab with impact nades be like...
I say forget the current mechs and drop us the autocannon version.
People are sleeping on the patriot mech against bots. I use it every drop lvl 7 bots. Be aware of any canons and dont waste your rockets.
They can 1v1 a factory walker.....
3 rockets for the turret and ive not seen one eat more than 9 rockets to the face.
Thats crazy powerful. Yes sometimes i goes shit but 80% of the time i hop out of an empty mech with multiple heavies and a swathe of light and medium armor dead.
Cool video but, if I were to use Dough's click-bait meter, this one's probably a 9/10 XD
Polls in game? You mean MANAGE DEMOCRACY???
The crossbow was too good at doing it's job. It has no sound. Everyone was using it. It destroyed everything. It needed to be nerfed so it takes at least two shots to kill a hunter. Now it is balanced.
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