Govt. Final Rule On Overtime Pay For Truck Drivers 🤯 Thousands Of Truck Drivers Not Happy 😡
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
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Question of the day? Should Truck Drivers Get Overtime Pay?
Yes! They should. OT after 8 hours just like all these overpaid politicians, beaurocrats, and executive officers within the state Gov't, federal Gov't, white collar professionals, and other applicable businesses.
Indeed they should. It was mentioned the rules no overtime from the 1930’s was to prevent drivers from working long hours. If that was true then they would have prevented trucking companies from working their drivers long hours by fining the carriers and would not have authorized a 70 hour work week. They’ve always viewed truck drivers as illiterate and that may have been true for some but not all. They still view truckers as illiterate because they go for anything and won’t stand together!
Anytime I run recaps hours yes.
Beyond my 14 hrs on duty' status, yes.
On duty beyond my 70hrs drive time, of course, yes.
Yep!
Yes. Detention pay is a version of overtime pay. Also,some drivers unload trailers and absolutley deserve overtime pay. The labor of time spent unloading a trailer is not properly paid. Also, does not include drivers with a forklift in tow. Used to unload a flatbed trailer. Mosty delivering residential and construction products.
Performing two jobs in one and only getting paid for one. Absolute bullshit.
Yes, because most drivers are not being paid for 100% of their time. Basically, truck drivers are being trafficked.
Truckers are institutionalized
@improvisedsurvival5967 lol that is exactly right. No wonder it won't bother me to go to prison.
@@blackjackmafia5282 when you spend your life in a truck it’s prison. Just prison on wheels.
Yes as a driver over time should be paid
Drivers spend 158 hours every week in the cab. Explain to me how that is not overtime !
@ericschneider8524 it's called out for work
Yall will just fuck it up
we should get paid by the hour, regardless of time and a half
@@ericschneider8524 we dont even get paid for the 70 hours we clock,
why you trying to include sleepertime ?
This is ridiculous. What mega carrier lobbyists paid off this proposal? These shippers and receivers need some incentives to not hold truckers for so many hours to days on the docks.
Yep , this is why we have inflation
It's not about lobbyist. Sadly, its about the fact that all the wanna be lawyers who left law school and weren't clever enough to get hired in a law firm, end up as "law administrators" in government agencies where their only interest is what serves the government and finance, and not the people. Believe me, I've come across some real incompetent liars in lots of government agencies!!!
This part … drivers would make way more money I tell you we have start lobbying
It's not the mega carrier paying them off. Truck Drivers will never be included because we don't get paid by the hour for the most part. If you want overtime get a regular day job.
Damned if we get it, damned if we don't.
Yes! If everyone else gets paid OT then it's only fair. Truckers are overworked and underpaid.
The hell this quacks in the ministry know anything about Trucker’s sacrifice.
Of course fleets are going to say they can't afford there drivers because they don't want to cut there profits there million dollar homes and 100k cars
That's a fact 💯
How a about you put some efforts to change the situation. Open a company and pay fairly. If you are successful, everyone will follow you. Have you noticed how many went bankrupt last year? Do some research…
@@gjuldzemalmilenko70if it’s a law then every company must comply. So it’s fair.
It was called indenture in the days of the wooden ships. Today it’s called TRUCKING. In a time where everyone’s Screams at the top of their lungs about equality how is not paying truck drivers overtime equality.
As a company driver if overtime pay was mandatory they would simply cut my base rate and lower my miles to offset the cost. Companies know what they’re willing to pay to drivers and legislation isn’t going to change their mind.
I am not quite so cynical. At least if the drivers get overtime, then the mega carriers will finally push the shippers and receivers to get their trucks loaded and unloaded in a timely manner.
@@scubasteve7946on top of helping to create rates rise by not accepting low rates!
Why would you say something so true yet so controversial?
Then don't drive for the company. It's not that hard.
@@scubasteve7946if these companies had to pay for all time when not driving. They would just pay minimum wage period. A whole $7.25 where i live.
I wonder how much under the table money they got to make it not a law
Indeed!!!
I will say this,I've been driving since 97 as aCDL driver,started as a local then OTR by 99 doing seattle to Miami dedicated. I made more money on % in the 90's then I do right now doing dedicated to Wisconsin and the traffic now is10 times worse then back then and the money is almost the same"crazy, I'm pulling out of this truck and going to a local position paying 30hr plus OT after 40 hrs,I can say I've had just about enough of the no home time,34 hour restarts without pay,ya good by OTR 👋
Wow
Which local company pays $30 an hour
If drivers got OT, then the capital gains and dividends the politicians receive from their inside trading would be decreased by a little bit.
So, truck driving is the only occupation where drivers are not afforded the full protections of the 14th Amendment; meaning, drivers are forced to provide labor/services without reasonable compensation.
Payed by the mile means they can get you to do everything else for free.
Yep. Same if you're paid tonnage, which is usually based on mileage.
Exactly
Meanwhile everyone else is getting overtime….except those that save this country in hard times….over and over again.
Your 100% right about that!!!
This per mile scheme scam pay that they place ever since, is now getting obvious to all Trucker’s including myself. That per mile scheme is a trap for Us not getting what is for Us!
Yeah I just quit this rotting industry since last year, and even I’m out. I can’t help to have this distasteful feeling everytime I see this kind of unfair laws for my fellow Trucker’s.
It’s just so sad, that I can’t see any signs of Trucker’s doing something about it. And majority of the Trucker’s just sucked it up. I don’t care if I offended somebody. I’m just letting you know, to fight what is OURS! Wake up all of you!
They’re really fucking Us now! Over and Over again! Especially, this quacks in the ministry. Who doesn’t know anything about a Trucker job, to begin with. And keep Us screwing with their nonsense laws.
Please do something about it.
Being so federally regulated, truckers should also be given the same benefits as other federal employees
Yea lmao
I'm not an employee. I'm an independent contractor. That's 1 reason I don't want this. Second, you think pay per mile is bad. They don't do overtime because of pay by the mile.
First we need to fight to get paid practical miles not short miles plus Deadhead. To hell with overtime. Make the customer really pay.
A word on hourly pay and OT. There is no excuse now with ELDs why companies cannot arrive at a hourly number. There's FOUR time clocks running at all times. Most companies lack ethics and integrity. Their business model benefits from high turnover.
Actually the students at my company get paid based on hours worked and that is done by the ELD. So yes it can be done but you would not like it.
As a union truck driver I get overtime regularly
Most drivers are Republicans. And Republican policy is unions are communist. So, most drivers are sleeping in the beds they made.
it was denied in Australia too……. Some truckdrivers went to court in 2021, with the same matter, and it was rejected.:
One truck driver showed a log record of 17 hours and had only travelled 200 miles for the day.
was paid about $160 for a 17 hour day .
Deliver goods for EVERYONE , they get paid overtime and we get told to kick rocks imagine that. Reality is stranger than fiction
Facts!!
It's pretty stunning how we've always been left out of this overtime standard. As a almost 30 yr local driver, I've made it pretty simple, my week ends at 40-42 hrs.
I agree, I refuse to work over 8.5 hours per day local. I get angry as hell as I am being shafted as it is..
they also like to leave Professional out of it even though you have to have special training!
@Goodboy0953 are you hourly? So your company won't pay you overtime 🤔
@theo10125 I work for one of the large ltl carriers, and no, there's no overtime pay. Even the ones that do offer overtime pay, most of them offer after 50, 55, 60 hrs.
@steven1371 it's depends on your region just about all the big ltl companies pay overtime except r&l its simple if hourly paid anything over 40 is overtime can't believe this is still a debate to many died fighting for fair labor and we just watch companies slowly take it away 😉
Trucker need a real humble organizer put together n stop the world for a few weeks
How is that possible. Hours worked are hours worked.
Cus drivers get paid by mile. How do you figure ot
Not all drivers are paid by the mile there are a lot of hourly truck drivers so they deserve overtime @improvisedsurvival5967
You don't you,switch to hourly pay scale
I do think so, truck drivers are held accountable for anything wrong they do so compensation should be fairly dealt as well.
The greed is so bad that by the time its time to pay the driver theres nothing left fact 💯
Agreed!!!
I did left this rotten industry since last year, realizing it’s not worthit!
@@HOGSHEEP same here 💯 my family is more important ❤️
@@michaelnagy4603 yeah man! Those sacrifices away with our love ones for days with this peanut pay is not worthit to begin with, as they say, it’s better to get any kind of local jobs, and be home everyday after work and enjoy a quality time with family. Rather than sacrifice everything, let alone the one thing that most of the Trucker’s unknowningly putting on the line is the HEALTH.
Our Health to perform this duty is vital, in order to do this job.
And my God, majority of the Truckero know that the Health is always on the line.
Sitting all day is much worst than smoking cigarette. Sitting for a long period of time is a silent killer. I hope, this matter will not be always taken so lightly. This is a serious matter. If not for the Trucker’s, our society will not function properly. Trucker’s are vital in everything. So, why to not support the wellness of the Truckers.
I guess we are all selfish kind of species. Only thingking for ourselves first. And just realized a thing, only when time comes that it affects Our lives, having this kind of thing to not function, as it used to be.
Like what if, there’s no Trucker’s? Do these folks think that they have food to buy in their local groceries? They don’t even realize that how did it get there in the first place? Did it just walked 5thousand miles to get there? I know I said a lot.
But, people need to be educated on this matter.
Trucker’s need to overhaul the way we get paid.
We need to push to scrap that per mile scheme type of pay.
And there’s two kind of options of how to pay the Trucker’s.
The first one, is by the hourly above the minimum and pay the 10hr sleeper birth, the 2nd one is fixed rate pay of the load, depending where it’s going. And that rate os none negotiable. Enough said.
40 hrs worked is 40hrs. Anything over that should be overtime period. What does driving a truck have to do with us working a job?
This needs to go to the Supreme Court. Why do our jobs have labor restrictions, but everyone else gets overtime after 40 hrs.
In around 2008 I looked into this and there is a law from the 1930's regarding this subject. They flat will not update that law even though it's almost 90 years old. Mainly because our cdl's are federal and not state. We got screwed 90years ago.
I was required to work 70 hrs a week , straight pay , no overtime. This is why I looked into it. I was a hostler at a distribution center and told by the labour board - tough shit on you Mr driver.
Yes,because currently trucking companies don't pay OT they work their drivers excessive hours. Two many irregular hours.
Just park the damn trucks for a week and see what you could get
Good luck parking them for 2 minutes
WON'T HAPPEN
That's what we all need to do..
If we unite, we get...divided we fall
It will never happen
We already tried that. Thank Jimmy Carter
Yes need to be paid OT
Yes truck driver should get overtime pay, we r part off the system. Plus everything is expensive now days
I have worked in manufacturing, followed by truck driving. At this point in time, I believe it would make more sense to work in the fast food industry before being a company driver.
Yes we should!
Good luck with that Stimpy
When you run out of hours and you are running on re-cap hours that’s overtime
That’s been overtime for over 30 hours before your first recap. We are missing out on big money here so everyone else profits.
Should be hourly & OT as well
Rates will go up when overcapacity in the market goes away in other words the market needs to hemorrhage more jobs! The only shortage in the trucking industry is parking-not drivers.
get rid of the foreigners especially the indians then
YES! Absolutely!!!
Yes we should get overtime pay
Once agian the driver gets thr short end of the stick
Hell yes we should get overtime...its discrimination that we dont...
Lol everything is discrimination now lol 😂
OF COURSE!!!!!!!
With the required ELD it would be easy to require pay by the hour after 40hrs of on duty and driving time combined. But, it will never happen.
what i think is the more you ask the government the less you have. the reason why truckers do not get paid is because drivers say they'll do the driver for less than the next guy.
Why do we always get the short end of the stick?....PAUSE 😮
Because nobody stands up for themselves anymore. Truck driver could shutdown this country in a day. But they do nothing
No diddy
Because they know ,nobody going to do nothing about it!!!
Bad enough, we don't get to spend enough time driving being stuck at the shipper/receiver. 🚛
Work is work, truck drivers work harder than most people out there, we get disrespected, short pay, and lots of abuse , so why shouldn't we get paid?????
Putting it to the driver
Pitman to the keister
Just sucks
Think of the amount of downtime truck drivers don't get paid for... you can't go home, but you can't work either. Often stuck at a truck stop or a shipper/receiver. Not so bad if you were going to have to sleep anyway, but being stuck 34 hours at a truck stop in the middle of nowhere 1000's of miles from home. Most the big truck companies screw guys out of promised pay for delays and such as well. Or only pay you after a full day of having to sit. The big companies have all the power, and take advantage of desperate rookie drivers often. Drive local with a company that pays OT after 40... usually you get a 5 day 50 hour week.. and you will make more than most OTR company guys putting in 70 hours, and you get to be home every night and at home on weekends instead of stuck at a stupid truck stop.
Exactly damm fucking straight on to the point man!!!!
OTR Driver’s always working for free!!!
It doesn’t mean that you are on sleeper, you’re not working? The fact that it is part of the job. So, it means your still not in your home sleeping. So, it’s not free!
There for, the one that needed to push to be get paid for, is that 10hrs sleeper in the bunk.
TO COMPENSATE THOSE DAYS OF BEING AWAY FROM HOME FOR 5-6days Straight in a week.
If they don’t want to pay that 10hrs sleeper.
Then we need to push to remove that per mile pay type of scheme scam pay!
Because, that pay mile pay means after that everything you do as a Trucker, will be everything for free!
So, in order to get what is for Trucker’s.
We need to push this another option of pay.
A fix minim price of load, depending it’s destination!
Like from east to west cost, as an OTR driver will get the load for the rigt price! And not for the distance pay.
This is no brainer! We need to get what we really deserved!
70 hours a week.... that's 2 full time jobs
We are being robbed..imagine 25 bucks an hour ....37 an hour overtime..70 hours a week..2000 a week....rich old men fleecing America
Exactly!!! Since the Trucking industry Started!
And never corrected this scheme scam per mile pay for OTR Trucker’s who spend 5-6days straight on the road after finishing the 70hrs cycle. And only got less than 2days stay in their home with their love one’s, and repeat the cycle for decades and decades.
Just give half of what their cents a mile a person is making now
Thank you Alex for the information 😎💯🚛
Yes😊
Trucking sucks you need to get out of it. How do you ot pay people who get paid by the mile. Truckers all have to get paid hourly to even be able to get that. You’re always gonna get screwed as a trucker. I been getting screwed for years trucking. I tell people not to be a driver. Get a real trade. Be an electrician.
If the companies that complain about freight being cheap would refuse to pull said cheap freight, there would be no cheap freight.
Yes! Now is not the time!
If you work hourly, you should get overtime pay!
Overtime pay? Can we 1st start with all time at the dock
Absolutely 💯
When Shippers and Receivers are Allowed to Bend us Over,Waiting...They Should be Forced to Pay Overtime,Not Our Companies. Fairs,Fair
If you've ever talked to any trucker who drove pre 1980 motor carrier act you would realize how the pay has actually gone backwards, when a driver could go out in the late 70s and make 10000 in 2 weeks , that was a huge amount for the cost of living at that time , truck drivers use to have a lot of solidarity back then today they are like rats in a cage stabbing each other in the back and kissing their slave masters a**, if the government says every truck driver has to get overtime , then the shippers simply have to pay more because every driver every where is getting more another company can't come in and under bid and take it out of the drivers pay , these greedy owners of the companies just don't want to take a pay cut because they realize thats the only way they can under bid the other companies
Yesssss!!!!
He says you should avoid auto only restricted license but ended up driving an automatic anyway
I picked up two drop and hook loads at my yard last week that were overweight and needed to be reworked... My dispatch said I was crying too much asking to be compensated... they could have been live loads I was told... I said live loads pay mileage to the shipper... I had to go to the scale and back to the shipper for free... Trucking is a racket and truckers aren't in on it...
Us truck drivers are suckers, let’s face it the facts! About time we left the industry.
Well, I’m having the issue of I am somewhat local driver/short range and I get paid hourly so I can sit and be loaded or unloaded and still be getting paid but the company says that since I drive a truck they don’t have to pay me overtime and I find that erroneous/wrong/bull$h¡t because I am being paid by the hour not by the mile and at the end of the day I come to the same place I start from And go home so I’m fairly certain I am a standard worker that drives a truck not a trucker, technically. Should I be suing the company, I wonder?
It's just to bad, that no one could ever organize a United Trucker Strike ! United we Stand, divided we fall ! Truckers could more or less run this country, if we all came together, in a real all truckers just stay at home for a few days, United Trucker Strike ! ( The Trucker Strike - Sanctions ! ) Yeah ! But instead, they all just worry about themselves, and end up putting up with everything ! Sad !
Sure why not and then label transfer the overtime page out of everybody's pockets by raising the price of goods
🤷 Well I knew that wasn't going to happen.... All you have to do is look at the lobbying groups that were against it.
Then also look at what companies are bringing in labor from overseas or across the border and there's your answer. When you have the drivers that live in the truck that are paid 30 to 45 cents per mile Did you really think overtime was going to pass.
Just a few weeks ago I met a Eastern European driver who spoke good enough English to have a conversation with He's working for some Chicago carrier making a whopping 35 cents a mile 🤦🤦🤦 And I'm sure he's jipped on plenty of miles and does not see any detention time let alone overtime.
Personally, I think we should get paid address to address before over time pay just for the fact we are already on a 14 hour rule with 11 hours to drive that's already in place if we get over time pay they would have to restructure the way we operate
Yes!
Getting paid by the mile or by the load percentage is hard to put an overtime pay on it.
Good discussion. lol I’ll come back and add something in a while
We should but wont happen for regular companies
what other industry can you work 14 hours a day in without getting OT?
I can’t pay my drivers overtime , already had to change to w2 due EB5 in California. And owner fleet are not profiting anything
It was never gonna happen anyway. The amount of money companies would lose if they actually paid us for the work we did would be astronomical. That’s why most pay per mile instead of hourly and continue to use the house hold movers guide to calculate miles. You get short changed no matter what.
Just find a school that offers stick. Central.piedmont community college in NC does.
Who do we call when we need help? Who is going to stand up for truckers? We provide non stop all around America.We get treated like crap for doing our jobs.They don’t care about us there here our cry’s and pain when we request more parking,When we request to be paid for all our time away from our families.Overtime should be mandatory It’s sad this shouldn’t even be a discussion This should be the norm.
I was driving from Los Angeles Ca to New Jersey for 1400 a week after a year I left the company I’m now having a hard time finding a job
Yes
It always bothered the hell outa me that I was only paid for miles run. Everything else was voluntary. And forced to do 70 hr wks.
Recently company Dispatchers we’re awarded favorable lawsuits over overtime for working Saturdays.
Truck drivers work everyday stuck in a company vehicle subjected to company rules and decisions everyday.
Not fair
Remember trucking is always the Alarm before a crash
Yes 100% over time needs to be thing in our industry
Just a thought if they could pass a using the way Walmart pay their Drivers that will cause huge shift from shippers to brokers to carriers to drivers
Definitely yes. I run a ramp and not just sitting for my 14. And I don’t see any other jobs out there doing 14 hr shifts.
If truck companies have to pay overtime they will just slightly lower your mileage pay or hourly rate and it will balance out to the same check your getting now. All you have to do is some simple division by 40 and add half of that hourly rate to the number of hours you work over 40 and boom you see that you are already getting overtime. Truck companies just dont pay alot like one would think. I dont get hourly paid hourly or overtime but I do some math and Boom!$26 dollars plus time and half for my monday to friday day shift at hubgroup 😕 yea i know its sad
Oh hell yeah
OTR drivers work way more than 70 hours per week. Finding a way that truck driver stop getting abused should be an emergency. This is sad!
What if all truckers went to office max and got card boards and markers? I think I’m on to something
The time clock should start the moment the driver shows up and leaves work. Overtime after 40 no ifs ands or buts
Absolutely
Work is work. Drivers should be compensated just like everyone else.
When you see the quotes these companies get and the amount the make it’s pretty sickening how LITTLE we get for taking all of the liability and risk
Yup
I agree
Yes....yes...yes we should get overtime pay. ABSOLUTELY
How about an update on the large tax credits for 2023 and 2024 Alex?
Company drivers should absolutely receive overtime pay.
Automatic detention pay would be a better option, if you're at a shipper longer than an hour we should be paid. No exceptions to any shipper
Thanks for your time and support 🙏🏾 ❤