Can Someone Who Commits Suicide Be Saved? | Episode 19
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Suicide brings crushing grief to thousands of families every year, including Christian families. When a Christian takes their own life, loved ones often wrestle with doubt about the deceased individual's eternal destiny, compounding the sense of loss and grief.
In this episode, Dr. David K. Bernard addresses suicide from both a theological and a pastoral perspective. Dr. Bernard examines what the Bible says about the value of human life while offering comfort to those who have lost someone they love to suicide.
If you are concerned about suicide and don’t know what to do, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255). They have trained counselors available 24/7 to speak with either you or your loved one. You can learn more about preventing suicide at nami.org/Find-Support/Family-Members-and-Caregivers/Preventing-Suicide.
For additional information on the topic of suicide from an Apostolic perspective, see the quick-reference guide titled “Dealing with Suicidal Behavior,” available at UPCIFamily.com.
You can listen to the audio version of this episode on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and other podcast platforms.
I just loss my oldest daughter to drugs, suicide, and my oldest son to drug overdose just within a few months apart. It's one of the hardest things to go through as a parent. I trust in Jesus no matter what. He is our Salvation, and Strength.
I am so sorry. May Jesus comfort and strengthen you. My son committed suicide 12 years ago… I understand the heartache.
Such incredible losses. I am praying for the Lord to continue giving you strength.
It is very hard what you have gone through. I am so sorry for your loss. God help you and heal your broken heart.
I'm so sorry. I'm glad you trust in Jesus Christ. He will see you through. Be strong. God bless you and be with you in Jesus Name.
Jesus only can get you thru this he loves you so sorry
It is comforting to know that we are being led by someone who acknowledges that God is grace and personal ❤️
Some years ago for a period of time I was severely depressed. As a Pentecostal we’re not to feel that way so I was too embarrassed to speak with anyone about it. I felt that I was absolutely no good/useless. One night in church the thought came to me “you’re no good for your family, the church nor anyone. You may as well kill yourself.” I immediately recognized that as a spirit, was prayed for and the severe oppression left. Sometimes we may think these thoughts are “just me” when in fact it could be a spirit and give into that spirit not realizing what’s happening.
Definitely, Jesus Is always by your side im glad you are here standing strong God bless you🙏🏻🙏🏻
"(for the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)"
- 2 Corinthians 10:4
"casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;"
- 2 Corinthians 10:5
You're right. Those were not your thoughts. That was a demon. The demons keep telling me that I'm gonna have to kill myself because things won't change. It happens periodically when I can't take it anymore, but I know where it's coming from and always turn to Jesus and ask Him not to ever let me kill myself. He is faithful and true!
I too had major depression shortly after being saved. I doubted my Christianity for having it. But I learned many people in the bible suffered from depression. Job for one ad Elisha. I had to go to a hospital voluntarily. I. Could leave any time I wanted to. When my medication finally kicked in I felt like a lightbulb came on in my head! Where there was only darkness before! Thank God he gave mankind the knowledge to make that medication! A whole new life.
I have to take it the rest of my life. It's a chemical imbalance. I have been weened off medication by a doctor and symptoms returned. After a year.The medication is not habit forming nor does it make you feel high. A normal person could take it and feel nothing. It adjusts the chemical in your brain that you are short of.
I have three ruptured discs in my low back since 2015. I'm in pain constantly, all the doctors do is give me pain pills, that do little. Being out of work gave me the time to get back into the Bible. I have read and studied it several times and still do. If not for getting back in the Word, I don't know what I would have ended up doing.
Now my wife has cancer in her head and lungs. She just started radiation.
Please keep us in your prayers. Me, I've been praying for the rapture for a while now. Maranatha.
Look into fenbendazole for cancer and beef gelatin for discs
Wow. My dad shot himself December 2 ,2014. He was battling severe mental health issues he was at such a loss and it came from out of nowhere. He passed away December 4, 2014. For those 2 days I spent them with him talking to him and crying. The doctors say he had no brain activity but I would like to believe that during those 2 days he was able to be forgiven for what he had done. Thank you for this video. It’s something I struggle with daily even 5 plus years later. It’s tested my faith but I’m giving my life back to our Lord. I believe he is a merciful God. ❤️
Amen!
As humans we fall short. God remembers that we are but dust and pitys us like a father does his children. Without the mercy of God none of us could be saved
I read a brain study that examined those who were diagnosed as brain dead. The study showed that at least half were not dead at all but unable to respond yet their brain activity responded to those who were loved ones. This study was at least 10 years old so the research likely is out there somewhere showing that Brain Death is not Accurate at all. The researchers suggested that loved ones and others need to speak to the brain dead because they are not incapable of hearing and understanding.
Thank you for a Biblical and compassionate answer to this difficult question. Every situation is different and at times complex.
Having lost my husband to suicide 3 months ago, thank you for addressing this hard subject. It is very difficult for those left behind. All I can say he is in the hands of a just God. We are devastated by this loss.
I lost a 15 year old neice to suicide in 2015. I went on a LONG journey to find the truth. IF your husband believed that Jesus died for his sins, that he was buried, and he rose again on the 3rd day according to scriptures, then he is saved, he may lose crowns, he may lose rewards, but he is saved, forever!!!! Jesus said, it is FINISHED!!! ALL sins were paid at the cross.
I know the pain. My heart goes out to you and your family.
Linda B
Lifting your family up in prayer.
So sorry.. Will be praying for you and the family…
I am so sorry for your loss. Jesus bless and strengthen you.
To my knowledge the only sin that isn't forgivable is blasphemy! None of us can or will die sin free
Thank you Brother Bernard for your words of wisdom.
Matt 12:31 Jesus says “all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.”
Suicide is not unforgivable. It is very much not advised as it is a sin, but it is not an unforgivable sin. Furthermore, I’ve never met anyone who is in their right mind that commits suicide. I would say that anyone willing to take their own life is dealing with things that we know nothing about, and we shouldn’t be the one to judge that person who may have been dealing with things we didn’t understand. Also I’ve heard a lot of people in my life quote the Bible saying “no sin will enter in” but that isn’t speaking of a person who commits a sin and immediately dies going to hell. For example, if a person lives their entire life living a godly life and witnessing and serving others, and just happens to wake up and everything in their life goes wrong. Maybe they get a call that a loved one has died or their house burned down, and they go to the store and someone spills hot coffee all over them, let’s say that godly person makes a mistake and tells that person off, yells and even cussed. Then as they leave the store they pull out in traffic, get hit by a bus and die. Does that mean they’re on their way to hell because they didn’t ask forgiveness before they died? No. The Bible says no sin will enter in because we will no longer have a body of flesh, but put on a body of immortality. We’ll shed this sinful body and that heavenly body will be what enters into heaven.
So the person that commits suicide, God will judge that person. He will judge them fairly and righteously. But that doesn’t mean they will go to hell for that sin.
Amen!!! Thank you for your response!!!
Wow, I love this.. Thank you Dr. Bernard for your kind words❤️
Thank you very much for this message, I sense it brought hope. GOD bless you and all of us who have tuned in, inJESUS Name!!
The Lord is merciful to them who are hurting mentally he does forgive👆✝️🙏
Such a touchy subject. I know a couple people who have committed it and I myself have attempted as well. I do know that more often than not, you’re in extreme pain and you do call and cry out to the Lord in your pain. I always say, in the end, when you’re drawing your last breath, we do not know the thoughts of the person. We don’t know if they have conversations with God in those moments and we don’t know where they go in the end bc we are not God. But dependence on God will grant us the strength to overcome anything.
Straightforward yet comforting. Thank you Rev. David Bernard. 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Some mental illness you lose control of your own mind. You call on the holy spirit to come heal & guide you out of pain. And nothing happens.
Thank you for posting this
The entire world need to hear this important message
Mwangas it is shareable and I have shared it on F.B.🙂
Thank you so much Sir/Ptr. David Bernard God bless.
I really enjoyed this teaching. God Bless
Wow! Thank you for this great and comforting words! Don't know why Robin Williams comes to my mind. I prayed that God reached out to him in his final moments 💔 😭
He had a sickness that produced severe depression. God understands that. After all, he made our brains and understands our thoughts.
Amen!
I felt like Robin Williams believed in Jesus, when I see his face I feel in the spirit he is in Heaven
I have described these same thoughts to people before about suicide. I believe this message is from God to comfort and give hope to the ones left behind.
Thank you for this great question but also thank you for the great and wise answer. Greetings from Nicaragua, Latin America.
Thank you for addressing these issues with wisdom and love.
This is so good Brother Bernard!!! Thank you for discussing the hard topics❤️
What a great insight from a great man of God 😇
Very interesting. Ty
I think its very important to not treat saints or anyone as though they are evil and condemned because we dont like their battles or their poor decisions leading to failure.
Thank you, again for addressing taboo topics and giving practical guidance based on scripture. And thank you for your sensitivity and wisdom, particullarly when including your own two cents from secular education and personal experiences and first hand observation.
Im in severe pain everyday. I had failed back surgery. I can handle the pain with meds but sometimes I fall in the cracks. My doctor doesn't call them in on time and I have to wait 3 days. Without the meds I lose the ability to walk. Something people take for granted. I get bedridden which is horrible because my mom has alzheimers and needs help. I think God just take me I can't suffer like this anymore. Everyone is so focused on people overdosing that they forget the people that will die without the medicines.
Please stay and find a prayer group
Thank you, this helped
Thanks for this reverend David K. Bernard.. My question has been answered..
Your question was only answered by a man, What the heck is that worth?? you need an answer from God on something this important
Ralph here... You can never convince me that those people who were burning alive slowly and jumped from the twin towers to escape a hopeless situation in agony ended up condemned. that was suicide. I feel certain God showed them mercy
Tell it Superintendent!!🙌 Worship God, be still & know He IS GOD and has the answer(s) for your pain, emotional healing etcetera. Please believe me but more importantly believe in YOURSELF enough to endure. (They that endure to the end..ya know!)
Thank you brother Barnard for the brave answer!
Wisdom right here!
This was a great response to a tough topic!
If there are truly conditions where murder is forgiven or justified then it stands to reason suicide may be justified in some cases. I pray for this. I pray every person who dies by suicide goes immediately to a place of spiritual recovery understanding and be replenished.
I thought your answer was very kind. Thank you.
Good teaching
Topic is very interesting...
Thank you
Praying is one Option. Action is Another.
Thanks 🙏 your answers are correct the way I see it, thanks again Dr banard
Praying that God touch you all with healing hands
I would also add "it is written, thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God."
Many UPCI preachers I have heard over the years have said that if you slip up even the tiniest bit without going to the alter and being perfect before death, then you wake up in hell. I believe in Jesus!
There is no repentance after death. The video message above is for people who lost their love ones due to suicide to bring hope through God's mercy. This is not to give ease to people on planning to suicide with relief. So stop, suicide, its a sin and that's not the only sin if we are tempted with it.
It's been a long time since I come to know about Dr. David Bernard from the internet and from then on I search for his teachings & debates, Oneness Pentecostal Theology and New Birth are two among many works of Dr. Bernard that so useful to me and in my ministry. Let ask Dr. Bernard of "what the Bible taught about cremation as a means of disposing dead Christian body.?". expecting for your answer. Thank you.
Not all have a loving family, the mind is not well when it sees no hope. Jesus is merciful.
"HIS" living kindness is new every morning and " HIS" mercy shall never cease
Before I say this,I want to make it very clear that I am well aware that suicide is wrong and it is a sin and by no means am I excusing or saying this as if suicide is something to take lightly because it is not. While I've never lost anybody close to me to suicide I have witnessed a close friend dealing with the suicide of his little sister,who sadly and without warning had hanged herself at the very tender age of 19,and whom he loved and adored very much and the grief that he so obviously carried from such tragedy was so heartbreaking to see,along with the rest of his family. Anyhow I want to say that while it is true that suicide is a sin,I like to think anyway that the act alone will not send you to hell. If a person goes to hell after they kill themselves it's only because they didn't know Jesus in the first place. Sometimes suicide is brought on by a severe mental illness and a horrible depression that totally clouds the mind and messes with a person's mental state. Therefore their mind gets so overwhelmed and it feels so hopeless and the emotional and mental anguish gets too overwhelming and they can't bear it anymore,so they do the only thing they know to do to escape the pain. And in all reality people,even suicidal people don't really want to die but they just feel it's the only option to escape their pain. But,if that person has truly turned to Christ and they do know him,none of what goes on with him or her mentally has anything to do with what's in their heart. Their hearts can be regenerated and totally right with God but their mind can be a totally different story. And,to say that you go to hell for committing suicide is saying that you go to hell for an act. The Bible makes it clear that the only thing that condemns you is not believing in Jesus and rejecting him as your Lord and savior. Choosing to commit suicide is not necessarily turning on Jesus. It's just more or less an impulsive move,even if it is premeditated and thought of ahead of time,with a person's mental illness it's still like an impulse that drags on for a long period. Christ's work on the cross paid for ALL sin,suicide included. He payed for everyone's sins on the cross so therefore nobody goes to hell for the sins they committed if it has already been paid for. A person's eternal destiny rests solely on their decision to either accept or reject the atoning work that Christ did on the cross for them and if they did the former then there is nothing they can do short of committing apostasy or blaspheming the Holy Spirit,which is what is the unforgivable sin,to lose their salvation. Again having said this I will say again that by no means am I trying to lighten the matter of suicide or denying the seriousness of it and overall sinfulness of it. I'm just saying that God's mercy is not based on an act that a person commits if they have put their trust in his Son,including suicide.
That begs the question. What if a believer in Christ says life is too hard and ends their life to go be with the Lord
Just remember that salvation when one commits suicide is slim.
Jesus changed EVERYTHING!!!!
I don't know if someone who committed suicide BEFORE Christ died on cross could be saved or not. Paul, our apostle, makes it clear... Salvation is eternal!!!!
This is not related to this video's topic, but I was wondering if you would do a video about what to say to someone who has lost faith in the Bible because of some contradictions he has found.
Amen.
There are lots of people, dont have a family. Or anything. Homeless or mental illness , so God is in charge. Yes God is incharge
I would tread with EXTREME caution putting a video out there like this brother.. God tells us not to cause another brother or sister to stumble- what if someone out there is struggling with suicidal thoughts, comes across your video, finds justification in it and ends their life? I would not want to be standing before God giving an account, God pulls this video up and says "this video led someone (or many) to take their life because of what you said in it".. thats a very scary to think about..
anyone reading this comment who is struggling with suicidal thoughts- endure the moment! please reach out to someone for help.. regardless of what happens, i can assure you that God does not want you to take your life! that is a lie that satan is whispering in your ear- resist him and he will flee! pray to Jesus that He cast that demon away and free you from these thoughts! life can be so hard at times, but i assure you that God still has a plan for you if you'll allow it to unfold! what a powerful testimony you will have to share when you've overcome these thoughts that you'll be able to share with others going through the same thing!
STAY Blessed everyone!
🙏✝🙌
Exactly
Nor would I want to be giving an account if He pulls-up the opposite kind of video and says, "This video led a[/many] grieving loved one[s] to lose hope and distrust Me, because of what you said about salvation and suicide."
Ephesians 1:13 and 4:30 both say we are sealed with the Holy Spirit of Promise UNTIL the day of redemption. If a born again Christian commits suicide. They will lose REWARDS, not Salvation!!
Can you tell me what God give us the Holy Spirit as a Christian? You need to be careful when you say something like this “If a born again Christian commits suicide. They will lose rewards, not salvation.” As a Christian we need to trust God in every circonstances because with God everything is possible. God has a power to change our circumstances in joy(John 14:1).
Read those verses: Mat 11:28 and 2 Peter 5:6-7
1 Cor 10:13 this verse is my testimony.
Jesus is coming soon
Are you ready?
@@jesusiscomingsoon1002 I agreed with Jason that if a born again Christian commits suicide. They will lose rewards, not salvation. It is biblically correct.
This is a really good way of putting it. They will lose awards but not necessarily salvation because God is a righteous judge
I THINK THAT THE MOST UNSELFISH ACT IS WHEN A PERSON IS WILLING TO LAY DOWN THEIR OWN LIFE TO SAVE ANOTHER.
SOMEONE DID IT FOR US A LONG TIME AGO !!!
This subject is really sad. Like he said only God knows the end.
But in my experience when I went on the other side God didn't judge me or condemn me the only thing He said " He addressed me by my name and said "You love vanity more than you love me. But I had a full understanding of what I did I knew I was going to hell because I knew I didn't belong with God because of the sin I committed by overdosing on my antidepressant pills.
When I was there I knew the whole Bible I wasn't limited to any knowledge. But if God didn't bring me back I would of go to hell.
Did you believe in Jesus at the time or pray to Jesus before you did it? You said you didn’t belong to God because of that sin, does that mean that sin separated your relationship with God?
I have wondered about this since 911...surely there were some born again christians who thought jumping to their death was a better option than burning or collapsing with the towers...I would like to hear thoughts about this, so please leave a reply anyone...thanks
April 21 2023 i loss my gf.....she committed suicide...she was a non-Christian but when she know about christ she accept that Jesus christ is her personal saviors..she always praying...she was in depression...in india a hindu cant marry a Christian guy..i believe she is with God with big smile....❤❤❤❤ i love u radha
Ihave so much trubbe faceing about you so many times you check Facebook your picture and to much struggling but nothing ihave prayers for you daily continue and give your pic T v and your friend but no respond soihave strong message about clefonia people and said this person comes with wife but missing so thanks God protect you Amen Hallelujah.
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Suicide is not of God. I've been down that road myself. When you get to the end of the rope, let go and fall into the hands of God. Salvation is the most important aspect of life. Nothing else matters
There sins and lawless deeds I will remember no more as God never looks at the flesh as Paul quoted
Those are just your thoughts doctor. But the lord says your thoughts are not my thoughts, and your ways are not my ways. Sayeth thy lord. Your body is the temple of the holy spirit. Now if you shoot yourself and still have a little life in you. Then you can always asked for forgiveness.
My brother use to attend a UPCI church and his pastor shot himself in the head
Blessings to all. Deepest prayers to everyone who has lost their love one. Bible says we have writhgeous and merciful God. Amen.
A co worker told me his depresion pills were making him suicidal. He had thoughts of throwing himself out the window of his apartment building. He only had those thoughts after taking those pills. Prayer, Fasting, worshipping, reading and believing Scripture is one Awesome medicine. Also dont practice spiritism, occultism, and dont love the world etc. GBY
Murder is a SIN. How can one who murders one self be saved.
I thought the only unpardonable sin is blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
I know suicide is wrong and it's a sin but why would God not forgive you for committing suicide, when he forgives you for committing any number of sins fornication, adultery, homosexuality, lying, coveting, having a false idol etc.
I believe all sins in God's eyes are equal, and suicide is just another sin so I believe God would forgive a Christian who committed suicide.
What happens to people who commit suicide?
God's lov
It’s someone has went beyond the limit , Bcz I think their our people who have went to heaven if someone knew him really but become unreal , my my cousin did , I believed he went to heaven .
I do believe that some suicide victims DO go to heaven. Like one young woman who's father sexually abused her. And no one else helped her. Also other cases too. We can't know all those things.
Suicide is an act of “mental illness” as such the Church teaches the person is not held spiritually
accountable. Therefore: Salvation is possible, and a full Christian funeral & burial is permitted.
🙏🌺☦️🌺🙏
For people who have manic depression 70% commit suicide. That’s 7 out of ten people Or 70 out of 100 people commit suicide. It’s no different for them than a person who dies with cancer
Suicide is getting out of your suffering which you can't do and get into Gods Kingdom if a real believer and been given the holy spirit See Rev 21 : 8 Christ suffered so do you have too it says take up your cross . You can't take the easy way out .
This is sad that Bro. Bernard would tip toe around the question. He answered the question within the first minute. "Sin is sin". If you die in your sin, then you will not inherit the Kingdom of God. I understand that he is trying to not offend people but he shouldn't give a false sense of hope either because people constipating suicide might believe that they'll be going to heaven as well.
Likewise - he shouldn't take away hope, because grieving relatives of suicides might become too bitter/disillusioned to want anything to do with God.
I am not sure I agree on the youth pastor teaching my child sex ed. that is me and her mothers job and no one else. If I sent my child to church and she came home talking about this I would be highly upset. I have been a pastor and am filling the role of assistant pastor now and would not teach this to your child. I would counsel you on how, when, and why.
Suicide is a SIN - your life and death depends on God
Yes you can be delivered trust the Lord and have Faith in him
You don’t understand the scriptures. If a person I truly Saved - no sin including suicide prevents a person from going to heaven. If it would - you’re saying that Jesus’ blood was not sufficient.
repentance is turning away old life not just feel sorry.judas feel very sorry of his act afraid of the consequences but that was notthe true repentance.because although we willbe save through faith butwewill be judge occording to our deeds
Suicide is a sin but does not mean a Christian will forfeit heaven. If a Christian commits suicide they will go to heaven. If a unbeliever commits suicide they will go to hell. All this talk about some repentance if they don’t die immediately is somewhat confusing. I really don’t think that happens very often. Whatever. But he makes a good point. Suicide means you don’t believe God will help you in your distress. It’s a lack of faith. And you cannot please God without faith. Heb 11:6. Endure hardship like a good solider. Then you will receive the crown of life.
Romans Chapter 8 says that NOTHING can separate you from the love of God... AND this verse.
John 10:28 KJV
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
But you can pluck yourself out...
No sin can enter in...
Sooooo......
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Then "neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" would still be false. You yourself are a man, too, no?
A suicider is not a Christian (follower of Christ, God's will), so I would judge the matter the same way as any other non-Christians, so the question is if a non-Christian can be saved.
You can not ask for forgiveness, if you commit suicide. Sorry....it’s cut and dry!
I don't care how deep into sin you've gone, God will forgive and save you if you'll place your faith in Jesus Christ, because of the blood He shed for your sins (1st John 1:7). If you want to be saved, then it is not too late. If God was willing to forgive a mass-murder like Saul (i.e., the Apostle Paul), then He will forgive you too. If God was willing to forgive an adulterer and murderer like king David, then He will forgive you too. If God was willing to forgive a liar and cheater like Jacob, then He'll forgive you as well. Only you can commit the unpardonable sin, by refusing to come to Jesus Christ to get your sins forgiven (John 5:40). Isaiah 1:18 is abundantly clear--THERE IS NO SIN WHICH CANNOT BE FORGIVEN... "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."
Those who commit suicide are not acting in their right mind and GOD won't destroy the elect because of their extreme suffering. Suicide is not the unforgivable sin and GOD in his Mercy will forgive those who were not capable of making a rational decision. Very young children don't have the capacity and those who commit suicide also don't have the capacity and will not be held responsible!
In the Old Testament, Samson committed suicide. Samson went to Heaven. A born-again believer can commit suicide and still go to Heaven, which Samson proves. When a believer gets saved, all sins past, present and future are forever washed away. It is a sin to commit suicide, but the only sin that can keep a person from going to Heaven is the sin of rejecting Jesus Christ as your personal Savior. That's the only unpardonable sin!
Suicide can't be forgiven because you can't ask for it when you are dead , but God may forgive you but don't count on it.
There is only one sin which CANNOT be forgiven--rejecting Jesus Christ as your Savior. In other words, none of your sins can be forgiven apart from the precious blood of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 9:22). God is willing to forgive a person of ANY sin, except the sin of not coming to God the Father through the cross of Jesus Christ. Jesus stated in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." There is no salvation apart from God our Savior.
For he will save his people from their sins.
The whole point of Jesus.
SAMPSON KILLED HIMSELF
When people kill themselves and commit suicide, and people around them find out they carried throu, it is part of God's plan.
Unbelievers say that Jesus committed suicide. The kind of self sacrificing love that would sacrifice their life for others or God and is motivated by His indwelling Spirit and does not even need to be forgiven as it is an act of righteousness. Otherwise, suicide is just the result of a long protracted process of sinful thinking. In some rare cases, people kill themselves because of an acute painful experience, but that also is a result of habitually not putting one's faith in the character and heart of God. In many cases if not most, only the Lord knows what really motivated the suicide and where that person's heart was.
Murder is a sin, but you can't murder yourself, if suicide was a sin then Jesus commited sin going into town knowing they were going to kill him.
Yes a saved person is saved still if he foolishly kills himself. The work of our Lord Jesus Christ for salvation is finished and completed. We are all hopeless IF we can lose salvation because it was once for all. Jesus will NOT go to the cross again
Pray hard also if your in pain get help prayer also sometimes you need to reset your body go 5 days or 7 days just drink water your body can fix itself sometimes or go two days a week just water let your body reset itself also eat garlic cloves it has massive heath properties
Anybody can be saved by God. It's His decision.
There is no heaven or hell, so it's a silly question. It's actually extremely cruel, and rather 'un Christian', to tell someone who is suffering and wants to end their life that they will be tortured for eternity if they kill themselves. Finally, Jesus allowed himself to be killed. That's suicide isn't it?
Thou shall not kill. When you commit suicide you kill yourself true or false? You are behaving cowardly when you end your own life. Jésus said in révélation 21:8 " thé cowardly, thé unbelieving, thé vile, thé murderers... Their part will bé in thé lake of fire that burns with sulfur. This is thé second Death.
Except for Samson's Death. He was not a coward here, he died with thé Philistins ( enemies) Christians should be able to overcome difficult times and troubles or persecutions. That is, be it religiously, physically, emotionally, mentally, socially,medically and so on... Jesus experienced a terrible persecution but he endured till the end on the cross. Please don't be decieved the bible is clear about that. Suicide is murder or killing oneself and behaving cowardly. Jesus Says in thé Book of John 15:18-20 " If thé World hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you...
Real christians should be able to endure till the end nomatter what the problem is and place/put their faith in God almighty
Suicide is an example of a lack of faith in God. The scripture says without faith it is impossible to please God
If a person knows wrong from right then no excuse for murdering your self.if your a Christian . Why would anyone want to kill themselves.im not talking about people who are mentally ill.but even at that no matter what.if you don't know Jesus Christ as Lord and your savior.you will die eternaly lost.
We can't make people feel comfortable while committing a sinful act. Never. That's not of God. What we have to remember is. We all have ungodly thoughts at times no matter what it might be. Fornication, adultery, or murdering some one who made you angry or misused you.The list goes on , and on . It's sad to say , but I thoughts are controlled mainly by what's in our hearts. As a man think. So is he .Proverbs 23:7) So we can't excuse sinful behavior to please the love ones who are left behind. We have to tell them the truth. If any man be in Christ he is a new creation behold old things have passed away, behold all things are new. My mindset isn't about me if I am truly in Christ. Iam not thinking about taking my life that I didn't give myself. I know that what ever it is God can forgive me, besides blasphem the Holy Ghost. So we have to tell them that . Taking your life isn't of God and leave it there. To try to tell them is their love one is in heaven. You don't know, because the Bible says. The righteous shall scarcely make it in . Where will the ungodly be? 1 Peter ch 4: 18-19 . So how we answer the question is. Telling people regardless of the suicide. It's not of God and God forbids it. The issue about heaven is not to make you feel better about a love one committing sinful act. That's where we miss the opportunity to minister correctly to the living. Everyone believe it or not isn't going to Heaven.
Thankful Jesus has the final say of who is good and faithful, not any one of us.
telling someone that taking their life isn’t of God , while true , will not fix or help anything. my mom told me that when i was suicidal in middle school and it made my depression so much worse and it pushed me so far away from God i never thought i’d get back. something happened to make them feel it was the only way out . you never know what might be happening to them behind closed doors that they can’t escape.
This, with all respect made you sound like a puffed up and prideful.
Yes we tell the truth, but I challenge you to go through some of what these people have gone through that led them to that decision.
Job, Paul, Elijah, etc begged to die.
Spilling your Starbucks isn't a trial. If you haven't been at the point of wanting to die, you Haven't suffered. Period.
He did not say they were saved, he said leave it up to God and his grace and mercy. The Lord said I will have mercy on who I will have mercy on . Leave it in God's hands !
I lost my 23 year old daughter to suicide in 2011. She was Valedictorian in college, born again, loving, lovely, and loved by all. She developed late onset mental illness. Her uncle had experienced the same type of breakdown and a failed suicide attempt. He said, depression can be very painful. All you can think about is extinguishing the pain, at that moment. I believe that God is merciful and wise. He may deal with each of us based on our unique and individual circumstances. God knows our 💕 hearts.