Gran Turismo 7: Nurburgring in the Torrential Rain
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- Опубликовано: 2 мар 2022
- A look at the new dynamic weather feature and how it plays out around the infamous Nurburgring Nordschliefe.
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Good to see the AI also having some difficulties in the rain and not that you're the only one spinning and the AI driving to the finish without any problems.
I remember this being a big problem in Project Cars 3.
codemasters needs to do this, it’s seems like the ai never struggle in the wet
We're looking at you Motorsport 7
I’m glad nobody’s naming names..👍
@@leekelly9639 A bit late
The fact that it started raining on the highest part of the track around the Hohe Acht, where normally that part of the track gets the first rain or snow, is soooo realistic and amazing at the same time.... my mind is just blown away, wow
Completely dry wind shield is realistic?
@@replynotificationsdisabled The wipers were on the whole time
I’d like to think that was intentional, but the cynical part of me thinks it was by chance
@@Hugh.G.Rection. they said they made it intentional
@@toccandocreacanaleulterior176 fair enough 👍🏼
If you ever get the pleasure of driving in Florida during the summer, you’ll get to see our real world driving conditions are quite similar to the “torrential downpour” conditions in the game. You’ll be driving on a perfectly dry patch of road before running into a deluge when you can literally see the wall of water heading towards you. Straight line clouds indeed
Ya same here, I was saying throughout the video “he’s never driven in Florida where you can see that wall coming!”
Haha, this is so true
Too bad Daytona doesn't have the option for rain yet
Orlando here, can confirm! dark grey sky and black clouds in front of you while a look in the rearview mirror shows a picturesque sunny day.
I have seen what you mean but thats localized, the straight lines are short and they soon curve to go around the cloud or have some wrickles back and forth is you zoom out enough. In the game it was a miles-ong dead straight line which doesnt happen irl.
i think thats just an in-game compromise. They made the weather to be unpredictable with random rain pocket generation which then moves in random directions and may or may not hit the track. Thats realistic, but the developers recognized that if someone picks max rain, they expect to be guaranteed max rain, so they just implement it like a massive square that can't *possibly* miss the track ever no matter what the RNG spits out.
There's nothing I love seeing more than AI making mistakes in Gran Turismo, it makes the game feel more realistic
I remember in gran turismo 4 I was racing against AI on Laguna and the #2 AI dive bombed #1 AI and shoved em into the sand lol....I was cracking up
@@snoopy_peanuts_77 hi Vernon. Have u played older Nascar game before?
I was gonna say the same! So good to see.
@Vernon Hector that and sarthe, they would all crash at the end of the straight lol
just needs actual damage modelling!
Also those hydroplaning physics are actually pretty realistic in terms of speed. There's an equation to find out when an airplane's tire will hydroplane (they're almost all the same design) and it's simply 9*sqrt of PSI. If we assume that 911's tires are at 30 PSI, sqrt is 5.4 times 9 is 49 knots...about 60 mph. So yeah, that's a solid ballpark. A nearly-slick tire will simply stop functioning at about that speed.
What's the reference for that equation? Not that I doubt you, I just want to read more about it.
@@_wyans Keith wrote the equation for you. Perhaps if I write it more simply. You multiply by 9 the square root of the tyre pressure. Just search 'Aquaplaning Formula' and you'll get a more detailed description.
If I inflate the tire to 45 PSI i can get more speed before hydroplane?
@@2076649 Yes. You increase contact pressure with the surface, making it easier to displace water.
@@LOOKINVERTED Snark not needed.
That straight line weather front is actually quite common. It's called a Squall Line and can form along the leading edge of a cold front. From my very limited knowledge it seems like it's fairly accurate for a bright warm sunshine to massive thunderstorm change.
I think by straight line he meant more like perfectly straight. Like pixel-perfect straight as show on the radar.
Happens in Florida all the time
In QLD Australia I saw this, it's so weird. It was literally a wall of rain that approaching in a horizontal straight line, almost like a sfx transition shot you might put together in a movie or something.
If I;m remembering right it doesn't happen in Europe, just in certain places.
sure but I don't think that was the developers' intention
@@smallpants Yes i've been around the front of a rain pour like 7 time and 2 of them wr incredibly linear that you would think its a dream. One of them I was in a bicycle as a kid and in the fields of Guatemala and the rain stared coming my way in a perfect wall that i could see from the end of my vision to either side and it was scary almost how perfect the line was. I actually raced it with my bike it was about the same speed and I could slowdown so that it got my back or that I would go into the wall then pedal my fastes and come out of the wall it was so cool. But yeah you would not believe how precise the wall was far as the eyes could see I dont think there was even a curve more then 2 inches in any direction from the front.
Really impressed with how they implemented weather in this game, adds a whole new dimension of course
That and the fact that GT4 and GT3 cars now seem to actually take skill to drive fast, much like PC2 and AC. I'm very looking forward to try how they feel now, to see if they can finally make me enjoy driving them, but seeing SuperGT need to precisely control throttle inputs not just to follow the line, but to actually stay on the track, it really makes me think that it will probably be closer to PC2 or AC than to GTS. I'm praying for it
I wouldn’t say whole new dimension, but a really beautiful returning dimension
Needs rain on wind screen
@@diesel4ever273 i dont think it will ever be really close to pc2 or ac, cuz the simulation will most likely stay in that simcade area. they would also have to sacrifice graphical fidelity for computing power.
@@atif1538 they made it better
The sound of the rain hitting the track is so damn relaxing!
if you allready are on intermediates yeah..
Put headphones with 3d audio on and camera in car.
I love that they programmed to AI to have major issues in torrential with Hard tires. Also they make decisions based on ingame statistics instead of pre-game settings.
This. This is my biggest gripes with other racing sims. Project Cars is infamous for having super amazing AI that never slips out nor have any issues on heavy rain scenarios, even going full speed on Hard or Inters across puddles.
So satisfying seeing GT7 getting this right!
@@miltonsilva5429 yup, but people swear by this game just being an arcade. The lack of respect in effort put into gran turismo over the years
@@MrDerekRobinson GT Sport was a simcade. The physics weren't there. This one looks better but I didn't play it yet.
@@conceptualmessiah01 not sure what you're trying to get across when you say, the physics weren't there. A simcade is more physics then arcade and I doubt the physics in GT Sport were less advanced then say GT4 or 5 🤣. The physics weren't there makes me automatically think, gran turismo 1 or 2 😅. This is exactly what I mean when I say lack of respect of gran turismo progress "over the years" if it was sooo bad in sport physically speaking, no one would really even consider wanting this game, and we all know Forza physics doesn't have shit on the GT franchise in terms of physics yet it's a simcade too
@@MrDerekRobinson I like to call GT an entry level sim. It sacrifices enough realism to give its player base a better gaming experience. An example is ghosting during a spin, I've seen enough ACC and iracing videos where someone spins and it causes a massive pileup and it destorys everybodys race.
12:44 that spray liftoff from the right tyre is insane!
That looks phenomenal. I'm really hoping for many evening into night races too, since it's been mostly daytime across the entire franchise (except the obvious ones like Special Stage), and would really switch things around for a change. Big kudos. ;)
Looks pish 🤣
I know it looks incredible.
The winky face just sexualizes it in a surprising way
Actually the straight line in the weather radar probably is realistic. More than one time I have seen torrential rain coming in a "straight wall" towards me. Sure in large scales the clouds formation and rain patterns probably aren't straight but curverd or cycles, but in smaller scales their do look straight.
Yes, probably if Super gt zoomes out the weather radar he will see a more curved or realistic shape to the clouds.
I’ve witnessed this in Arizona. It’s pretty wild to actually see it from a distance. Even more so leaving the rain and seeing a wall of rain behind you.
@@digitalbathrx4529 yep, it's looks like a dramatization of a disaster movie or something like that. But it's real life.
It’s pretty common where I live (Calgary Alberta) to see weather systems move as a wall towards the city from the mountains if there’s anything big enough to make it over the mountains
>in smaller scales their do look straight.
Smaller scale? It's a 46 MILE circle on the radar!
Brilliant setting of weather looks just spectacular and jaw dropping!
You've got to be joking right? You clearly haven't seen drive clubs rain.
@@akiplay312 i was just talking about the weather conditions as it has made it very difficult to handle cars in such conditions and this would really cost alot if we spin! Moreover we’ve to drive carefully! I’ve played GT Sport and there wasn’t such conditions like this, so yeah it’s going to be very difficult at start. Sorry my bad that I didn’t talk about the weather conditions.
@@VINAYAKSONI007 oooo so thats what you mean. But still if we look graphically rain is definitely not that impressive in gt 7.
@@akiplay312 And that game does not have the physics this game has.
@@muchacamara still looks more next gen than gt 7 and it also has dynamic weather
The reason the rain system looks like a straight line is because of the limited range of the weather radar. And because you chose the torrential rain option, so the system is so big that it comes in like a wall going through and likely past the radars range.
You know that straight line rain is a actual thing in real life as well yeah?
@@SahiPie Of course… cloud formations can come in an infinite number of ways, so yes that most definitely includes in straight lines of them.
the fact is that Driveclub on PS4 looks so much better than GT7. These rain affects look like PS2 or PS3 at best..
and here I thought it was just a straight triangular cloud approaching the Nurburgring
@@deedeemerry1295 Driveclub also played like shit so
That's a nice Dalek moment at @14:10 :)
Cycling round my local roads (East Lothian Scotland) I've seen a completely straight line between dry and wet road surface from localised rainfall many times. Not all that often. But it definitely happens
As a Dutchman, I do agree!
I would have liked to see the cockpit view in the heavy rain
Its chaos
This looks like it'll create some truly epic scenarios. Can't wait for Friday!
This looks like it'll be a nice element for those longer races, especially online... I can see the chaos being really fun and challenging.
This was a nice review, happy to see it.
as someone who grew up in a city with frequent torrential rain, I can confirm that sometimes it does go in a straight line, sometimes you can see the rain coming as it quickly moves towards you
Did you live in the GT universe??
That actually does a pretty decent job of resembling a squall line coming inbound. Those might not exist in the UK but they're really common here in the midwest US and buddy do they bring torrential rain lol.
Anyone remember when it snowed in the 24hrs a few years back... scenes very similar to this, cars going off all over the place.
It was actually hail not snow and yes it was insane lol. I was in a crew behind the pitlanes working on wet tyres and looked at the sky and was wondering what the hell they want rain tyres for now lol. it was not raining at all at pit and other half of the Track was madness and hailstorm. The videos are on youtube from that hailmadness.
I've seen Rain come in a straight line before. I was downtown Toronto, so tall buildings on both sides, and the rain was coming directly down the street, we heard it behind us roaring and turned around to see it approaching and we all ran it was quite surreal
The dynamic weather setting looks so neat! Can't wait to play around with that.
Looking forward to all of your content on GT7 Steve. 😀
Long time coming. Been here since 20k subs. Looking forward to seeing you cross 20m after you become king of GT7 content.
Great video, love how you go in-depth into the systems and testing out the impacts. Thank You.
Finally subscribed! Well, despite the rainy conditions, your humour always remains impeccably dry - and that's what I really appreciate here!
Ahh, the first GT7 commentary of SuperGT
Wow this is so immersive. I can't wait to jump into the multiplayer and play. It's just so dynamic
Been watching European gt racing for a while now and I gotta say as a newcomer to racing and sims your explanation of what’s going on is only bringing me closer to the skill that goes into going fast.Never saw racing in this light before, but now I see the split second decision that come into racing.Thanks for another great video ❤️
This is Lando at Sochi all over again!!!
Thanks for a great video. Looking forward to seeing more from you. My copy is downloaded and it is nearly 4th here in Australia. 1 more hour till I can play.
Same, can't wait, 45 minutes to go!
4:00 - lol so you’ve never been on an ocean or lake as a storm rolls in. The rain literally moves in a straight line as the storm rolls in
Microbursts are a thing
13:37
"nothing happened there. you saw nothing" 😂😂😂
Awesome video Steve! I've been waiting for my ASMR sleep fix and now it's here.
I feel bad as I'm still busy from work up to the weekends, although I've already pre-ordered the game last week. I'm fighting the urge to play GT7 for the meantime hahaha!
Looks enjoyable, Super GT! I'm loving the gameplay so far based on videos. This is gonna be exciting for us all!
The ultimate challenge! Can't wait to do track experience there...
Sadly the Golds in Track Experience and License Tests are still really easy like in Sport. I kind of wish they'd add a fourth time like a "Platinum" or "Diamond" that was similarly difficult to the Gold times of the PS1 and PS2 games. The difficulty of Silver or sometimes even Bronze is how the difficulty is now to get Gold.
Great demonstration. This demonstration answered many questions for me.
Played today the European Championship and it started to rain in the middle of the Nordschleife and towards the end where the long line is was cloudy with no rain. I was thrilled by these weather effects. Nicely done! The game certainly grows on you 😍😍😍
Steve I am so hyped to see the new content on the channel! At first I was skeptical that it would be too close to GTS. After seeing your review I preordered it last night! Can’t wait!
The game looks awesome
"I sense the rain is coming though because I set it to appear." I'm dead
There is nothing truly more terrifying in life than torrential rain arriving in a STRAIGHT LINE
As someone who is usually at least once a year at the Nürburgring, i've noticed the straight line of rain there a couple of times when dining at the restaurant just below the castle. (the castle is on the highest hill in the surrounding area so you can see quite far from there.) The weather there is just something else. I've had 30 degree swings (°C, in ^F it would be 50 degree swings) there a couple of times within a few hours. (usually happens if the track is stuck within a cloud (yeah, within, not below)), but i doubt that condition is simulated in GT7.
Dynamic weather like this is a total game changer for GT, it will mix up races massively and keep them fresh and exciting. Some people are complaining about there "only" being 400 cars but Id take 400 quality cars and dynamic weather over 700-1000 cars and static weather any day of the week. There only so much development time and resources, you cant have everything
6:39 i love how i just hit the wall and are rejoining on a very fast part of the track in the wet and the marshal is like GREEN TRACK BOIS PUNCH IT
This is SUPER cool! It's gonna make tire strategy so much more important, especially in online races.
Would've also bee interesting to start on torrential rain and finishing the race on a drying track with full wet tyres
God I wish Gran Turismo was available on PC :( This game would be the only reason for me to buy a PS5. I have so much nostalgia from playing GT3 and GT4 on my PS2.
U could just get it on PS4 pro still a decent platform to play on for at least the next 2 years
Yeah it's rough. I got a PS4 but play on Xbox normally but no one has done a review on PS4 on it so far.
@@EricHamm it's basically the same game just that obviously loading times and ray tracing and the graphics are just better. But there some videos comparing ps4 to ps5 gt7. And it still looks great
This might happen considering big Sony games have been making their way over to PC recently.
@@kahmed6 not anytime soon if ever, this is one of sonys Crown Jewels and still is a console seller. With latest Xbox acquisitions lately, Sony will be hanging onto their exclusives for dear life I imagine.
I love this game so much! Did my first big race in rain today and it was nerve rattling. Luckily I got 2nd place. Very cool experience!
4:05 lmfao science can't explain this !!! Awesome video dude
Love the dynamic weather! Absolutely incredible what PD has done!
Thanks for sharing your experience 👍
Quick question: do you feel the difference of grip between the "wet line" and the "dry line"? Have you tried going on the outside of corners when it was wet then crossing the dry line feeling a difference?
He should try it on a smaller circuit to really get a dry line forming
There is a HUGE difference between dry and wet line. But I am assuming you already experienced it since the game is released :)
@@TuGyy You just confirmed what I started experimenting. Thanks mate 🙂👍
Yep I felt some differences specially in the M3 E30 Red Bull Ring license.
That is absolutely bonkers for a racing game, probably a first on any consoles!
Would love to see if taking the 'rain racing line' actually makes any difference, as it would in real life.
it makes a difference not sure how much
Love it and will enjoy the challenge. Thanks for the heads up
This looks so realistic, I raced around Nurburgring 12 Yrs ago in my Escort Rs Cosworth. Awesome day 👌👍👍
Abroad in Japan?
Quite disappointing that the graphics doesn’t show the standing water or a downpour where you really can’t see very far.
because he never actually let the weather play out to full torrential rain. Remember the colors on the radar scale? By the time he was finishing the race, the rain was only a green shade. Still had like 5 more steps to go. Once you reach the highest level, you cant see more than like 5 feet in front of you and the track feels and "looks" flooded.
I remember one I time I was on a boat in the middle of a big lake. I watched rain come over in a wall and it was moving so slow that once it got to me I had one half of my body dry and the other wet. I looked up in the sky I’ll never forget looking up and seeing a massive wall of rain. So it’s quite possible
The 2021 24 Hours of Nurburgring: Just like the simulations
Couldn’t smell the rain in game. 1/10
First official video of Gran Turismo 7 I’ve ever viewed (minus early copies and whatnot) and it had to be a video of 20 drivers struggling in the wet.
This era’s gonna be a blast. I can feel it.
Another thing to note is that the AI drivers are actually behaving like the people we usually meet online (minus the overall aggressive nature of punting) in comparison to GT Sport. That’s neat.
The sound of the rain sounds so relaxing
Great Video! Laughed a lot ! 😂🙌
Damn that Pork sounds awful. I'm convinced they don't do ANY real sound capture, they just have 1 generic sound and then modify and mix it in Post to make different engine sounds - kinda, sorta. It sounds so electronic.
Is there any schedule for oncoming stream?
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Few minutes from now
Great video man!
Very good insight on this game, cant wait to get it!
apparently torrential rain is just average UK weather
Hearing the rain, as you said, is the big clue. Because you‘re surely not seeing it. It‘s just wet and sounds like rain. You can not see any rain drops.
I absolutely love the wet track conditions. I felt tugging with small puddles congregating near the curbs, which felt very real as I've experienced similar feelings in real life driving.
I also started aquaplaning on all 4 wheels and skating briefly when doing 146mph, which was scary and amazing to feel in a game.
It is amazing they got the detail of the vibrating wiper blade. So many eons ago, that's the one tiny detail that stuck with me when I started racing.
Id love to see more street cars like we had in GT6.
This is gonna set the bar real high for the other sims out there. The game mechanics that are coming for our fav sims in the future are going to be mind-blowing
A lot of games already implement similar features,and play beteer, and have more life too them and have damage.
This is an over hyper bumper car game.
This video reminds me the traumatic experience of driving in aquaplaning. i swore to never drive on highway when its heavily pouring and dark
Gran Turismo 7 looks awesome... nice work, Steve.
It's barely possible to see that it is raining, though, except for the spray from other cars and the wet surface. Watch the 'Gran Turismo 7 vs Driveclub Rain Effect Comparison' video to see how much better an 8 year old game did it.
But Driveclub is completely different to GT7, why would you even compare them?
@@Maenfy I was comparing them visually. Why do you question that?
Bit strange that there is no rain on the screen. Driving in torrential rain with a perfectly clear field of view 👌
Bit strange that you don't see that his camera is on top of the car 🤭
No in car view was harmed 😂
You have never played gran turismo
14:10 the moment Super GT turns into a Dalek
Great vid, Steve. This looks like an awesome addition to the game.
All it takes is one mistake on this track. The added rain really makes the race more realistic and changes your decision making very quickly. GT7 raised the bar here. The rain physics.😫
I'm nervously excited for GT7, I think once the initial grind is out of the way it'll be superb, but I'm not really looking forward to the 2 hour slog before I can play the bits of the game I enjoyed so much in GT Sport
O noo not a whole 2 hours of playing a game to unlock more of it..what an atrocitie lolol
Bro that bit about the weather coming in at a straight line had me dying!!
love the way this was displayed true real life conditions
That’s really cool. It looks like the rain will outright punish you for ignoring the forecast. It’s kinda hard to tell but is the sound in the rain/wet any better in GT7? I also wanted to ask if the overall sound of the game is any different?
The sound when its raining is definitely different. I've also heard from people in the comments that their are improvements to overall sound but it doesn't sound dramatically different to me.
@@teslaadverts Cool, thanks!
its a little odd - I don’t know any races wehre you’d actually come in for predictions - you’d stay out as long as possible before changing in case it doesn’t happen. I guess the shorter races compress things so you have to use the forecast and not just the radar. On a full/half length race I guess the radar moves more slowly so you can use it to react to
If you didn't tell me this was GT7 I wouldn't know, looks exactly the same as GT Sport.
Those puddles are gorgeous. Lighting is amazing
Lots of respect. Thanks for the video
Game has NO damage on cars? Flying into the barrier and just keeps going? How arcade is this game?
You can enable damage for races but he hasn’t here.
I’m a bit disappointed with the AI not pitting for the rain, lacking realism there.
The weather was still dry when they crossed the pit line, which suggests the ai make choices based on what the current weather is like and not based on settings of the race. So in my eyes its more realistic of them not to pit
@@h80np39 weather forecast, cloudy with chance? 🤷♂️
Looks incredible
“A rain front coming in at an exact straight line … the work of Moses.” Lmaoooo 😂 I laughed hard at that
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lord i cant wait. long day at work then coming home tk this!!
This was fun to watch
Looks Amazing!
Man Grand Turismo is my favorite video game series of all time. They do not get complacent and they deliver something awesome every time.
omg this is brilliant and amazing!
14:11 Steve is a robot confirmed.
Wow. Awesome weather system. Maybe it's just me but those clouds looked amazing lol.