PSA CHF M4 Upper Meltdown!
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In this video we take a PSA upper receiver group with a FN CHF barrel, made from the same barrel steel as the FN249 and FN240 belt fed machine gun barrels, and see what sort of abuse it can take with continuous full auto fire. Stay tuned, much more on the way.
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Shoot an old fridge or stove during these meltdowns so we can get a visual of how many rounds your throwing down range. Beats throwing them in the dirt.
Yeah, no kidding.
Yes
Yes
Yea
Yup, these melt down videos get real stale when they just shoot dirt.
Gas tube failure before something more substantial seems like an intelligent design.
HonorNecris This is the case with most ARs
Eugene wasn't no fool
@@thestrongnsilenttype lol
Rather a gas tube failure vs a ruined upper receiver
Pop the gas tube and then the soldier dies to protect the rifle???
None of us will EVER throw 500 rounds of full auto thru our psa uppers. That little fella did a good job for the price point it sits at. Great one Eric.
Broken Medic I agree 100% those who say psa is junk, will never fire more then 100-200 a year! I have a psa 10.5 that I couldn't tell you how many rounds I have through it and it still runs like a sewing machine. Haters gonna hate all while they are broke from mall ninja parts.
Joseph Pyritz I buy all of my uppers from psa with the stainless barrels. They are as accurate as I need and if called upon to defend myself or my family, I KNOW they will do the job right. I am sure ppl will cry about how they couldn't survive in war type conditions, but they aren't made to. Buy a cmmg if you want a rifle that will fire THOUSANDS of full auto roumds round a day and be cooled by dumping a bottle of water on it to keep going. But you also pay way more for that.
K B if you say so friend
My first year with mine I put 2000-2500 through mine.
K B FN CHF barrel is one step up from what our military is issued on their m4 carbines...It's as accurate and durable as any BCM or Daniel riffle in the same configuration.
Any firefight where you are dumping like this would be rare even in war I think lol... The fact that you can dump more than 10 magazines through it without fail makes me feel confident about protecting myself and my family, especially considering I'll probably never have to use it in self defense.
I am so proud to work at FN in the barrel shop. Because we make barrels for alot of manufacturers. Bravo. Abrams , PSA. Etc.... We make great barrels! I'm a quality tech in the barrel shop and that barrel is the same exact barrel the us military gets but just a bit more scrutiny. Keep up the vids!
List all the company's you supply barrels too
@@CHEVYK10 Bravo, Abrams, Noveski, PSA, Spikes, Beowolf/Grendle, and maybe a few more smaller companies I'd have to look them up , but FN owns Winchester, and Browning. I can let you know if any other I can think of. Now pistol barrels we just make for ourselves. Hope that helps
@@cameronfelkel377 great job on the FNX-45 tactical by the way a gorgeous piece.
@@jessesimmons4503 we have a few new designs coming up like a 10 mm and .22 tac.
What about 🐻 bear creek Arsenal
I love America- full auto blasting caps for analytical evaluation of barrel steel and upper combo for the sake of average joes. Pure Awesomeness. You can’t do this in the UK.
whyd you think we left mate ;)
Unfortunately in liberal run states they have strict gun laws vote Trump 2020!
You guys need the American Revolution
I left England in 1987 because I wanted to do stuff like this. I left California 3yr ago because it got way too restrictive. Texas just keeps getting better
uh you never could do this sort of thing in the UK
Anyone else think Spaceballs when he put the helmet on?
Mr BoJangles78 hell yeah.
Mr BoJangles78 may the swartz be with you.
Dam you beat me to it!!
You’re under arrest for ILLEGAL PARKING!
That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!
I'm really glad I saw this, I'm about to build my first AR and I was thinking about going with PSA just because they're priced so damn low, but obviously I was worried about quality. This video just solidified my decision to go with PSA. Thank you very much for the informative video, sir.
PSA is great. You should look into their premium uppers if you haven't.
Please let me use your ammo sponsor 🤣
Lmao you think you’re going to melt your rifle like this guy??
So the main components were fine and held up. But a gas tube that can be replaced for $10 failed after 430 rounds in a test you will never mimic in real life.
I smell round 2 coming with a new gas block and tube....
smell it ? LOL He came right out and said it was coming after some accuracy tests didnt he ? I
inconel
warren michael Sometimes people comment before the video is over.
bdwitt66 ditto
yep, a bunch of people do that. LOL Thats where most of our smartass comments come from too HAHA I am with you though, i want to see part 2
Considering that upper is couple hundred dollars it didn’t do bad at all at full auto-
Then again, 99% of people won’t have full auto-
@@Future-Preps35 def check em out, I have a couple and all great
me: *suspiciously slides tote of wire coat hangers and psa premium fa bcg's under my bed
Laughs in swiftlinks.
And even if you have full auto consecutive 500 round full auto would put a hole in your wallet
@@Future-Preps35 the prices went up for psa uppers
Good data as always 👍🏽
Data was my favorite Goonies character
Another good vid. Thank you. My suggestion for next one is PWS mk1 MOD 1 or 2. This is a long piston AR.
Yeah that's one of the main reasons Mrgunsngear is my favorite channel. He truly loves guns, it's obviously his hobby and passion. He's all over all the forums and truly wants to help people out. Especially newer gun owners and enthusiasts like me.
He should do the colt 6920!
Edd 2017 that’s a very good AR for sure.
Fun fact inconel is used in the combustion section of turbine engines. aircraft and IGT. I was an engineer that helped produce blades and vanes and other components. it has a lot of great high temp / high pressure properties.
Do a single shot .22 rifle meltdown!
Vic Jaguar hahaha I have an Ithaca single shot lever action 22.. maybe I’ll upload a video to my channel of a melt down.. it’ll be a week long video trying to melt it down 😂
I'll be looking forward to it.
Itll be a 22 part series
Subsonic only
Worlds longest video
I've been waiting for a Meltdown Like this! Great job Eric
I love your channel !
These videos beat any of the crap on TV. Thank you sir.
Y'all remember a time when we were able to do stuff like this? And now we can't find ammo...
Yes you can. It just costs more.
Or buy firearms in Oregon
@@davids.3725 How is that even constitutional? …what that governor is doing
@@notme1296 it's not constitutional...it's not the governor, it was a measure that the citizens votes for and Portland and Salem passed...I'm not sure how unconstitutional measures are even allowed to be put up for a vote, but thankfully it wasn't allowed to go into effect, today (the 8th of December) was the day it was scheduled to go into effect, but right now a state judge put it on ice until the 13th where the state has to plead their case why they think it needs to go into effect...there are a lot of lawsuits filed against 114, and seeing how it is the most unconstitutional piece of garbage it will eventually be struck down...that is the hope anyways.
The owner of that suit should also be honored to see you wearing some neck pro.
Amazing how many run this gun down when the gas tube is a dirt cheap part and it's way more than enough for semi auto use
The important part is the barrel looks perfect
Hey Eric for future safety you should look into some sort of neck guard.
Eric just do the meltdowns while inside a ballistic bubble while wearing ballistic underwear...
YES!
That's what the beard is for
Bought a PSA “custom” ar15 about a year ago and I haven’t had any issues whatsoever. I have about 1500 rounds through it, maybe 2000 and not a single failure to feed, failure to extract, or anything.
Glad to see you wearing better protection, but I would love to see you add some neck protection even if it was only a Nomex neck gator. Stay safe and keep cooking.
I really would Love to see a PSA FREEDOM RIFLE MELTDOWN.
Luciano Taveras Since I just bought one, I need to know how durable (or not) they are & what upgrades it might need.
@@PhlashRockinmann
Which one did you buy? What gas block, barrel length, bolt, etc?
Lol it'd light on fire
@@PhlashRockinmann make sure ur gas block is properly aligned and pinned, that's a pretty common thing, if not the most common problem with budget uppers. Worth investing in some no/go gauges too if you want to build ur own stuff
PhlashRockinmann
What lower receiver should I get it will be my first build
Looks like that upper did exactly what it was design to do with the components involved. To me that is fantastic.
I love the permanent grin on his face while shooting full auto will make anyone smile ear to ear
Cant wait for the second vid with different gas tube see hot it does
The m&p sport out last another one.
Great videos, Thumbs up
Ar10 melt down😋😋
And a good ammo supplier lol
Melt my pa10
HOW DARE YOU.....
You should do an accuracy test before and after the meltdown. That would give us some practical valuable information.
I dont even care Insta like and *grabs popcorn*
VT Concerned Citizen Those have been illegal for years.
Inconel is a pretty unique alloy. I worked in aerospace as a machinist and inconel was used in all stages of our gas turbine engine components due to the fact it could become cherry red hot in a turbine engine turning 100,000 rpms and hold it's size. I will be upgrading my gas tubes. Thanks for the great video.
I am having a meltdown just watching
CLICKBAIT
Same here, I had expected more than 450 rounds fired in rapid pace from Darth Eric.
All these meltdown's are awesome to watch, and a treasure for the community at large. These will be referenced for years to come. The meltdown I'm really looking forward to seeing is the Daniel Defense with the Milspec +. I think everyone wants to see if that "milspec +" is legit, or marketing huff.
Its a color....
Please melt down an Mp5 or some other blowback gun... No Gas System
might not be economical.
Saiga 12 :D
New CMMG PDW meltdown!
FN P90 meltdown 😀
Problem is these meltdowns are purposely to the point of failure. Who’s going to donate their $25,000 transferable G3 or MP5 to be destroyed?
Can’t go wrong with PSA!
Awesome work guys. I would love to see a 20"! HBAR maybe?
A 20" rifle would make for a good interesting video.
I have a rra A2 hbar maybe I'd think of sending him
Well, I am sold. If a time ever comes that I need to run full auto and a better rifle I will use a PSA to acquire it.
Please do an Aero upper it's middle of the road but claims to be more
No its cheap crap
Bcm is middle of the road.
Id rather have a chf upper instead of aero lol
I would have liked to see the video of this weapon after the gas tube had been put back on and seen it shoot a few times for accuracy.
So bold! So tangy! So 𝓼𝓹𝓲𝓬𝔂!
Eric, you got a whole buffet of style going on!
Could you please add a quick camera scroll or maybe even some still shots of the aftermath of all the brass on the ground at the end? Great video as always!
Man i can't wait to see the follow up video to this. I just bought a 16" chf psa barrel so I'm definitely glad to see that the barrel held up to that heat. Much more heat than mine will ever experience if I had to guess. Thanks for another great meltdown vid
Inconel is a mixture of nickel and chrome, "free of iron superalloy" or "eisenfreie Superlegierung" is what we mechanics call it here in germ-any.
It would be cool to see how well a 14.5 SOCOM barreled upper would do from bcm, or even one of the nvm uppers with the enhanced light weight barrel or enhanced medium weight barrel
I was thinking the same thing.
The chrome lining kept the combustion gasses from cutting through the barrel unlike the other AR barrels which eventually blew out near the chamber. Hammer forging hardens the rifling and makes it last 2X longer and then chrome lining doubles the life further making it last very long while only sacrificing slightly in accuracy. The FN barrels I have has a slightly taper rifling and I notice it when pushing a cleaning patch down barrel it gets slightly tighter as I push rod down the barrel. This might explain why FN barrels shoot better than most barrels yet still have a chrome lining.
Inconel is a very heat resistant alloy, they use it for jet and rocket engine components.
drysori, and exhaust valves in performance piston engines.
But it's also a very expensive and brittle material
That guys got the BEST job
Your throat is still unprotected
Was that a Walking Dead reference?
From my 2 incher
Waiting for the future videos on this upper. Curious to see how the accuracy is after half a meltdown round count.
Do a Colt Le6920 upper
Let’s see how our colts hold up you gotta do it !!!
Colts,have much better,button rifles barrels. Why Israel took so long to get rid of Mrs.
It won't last as long as a chf barrel I have seen that personally the only barrel I have seen go as long as a chf is pof's barrels there amazing
@@Jesusiskingamen7 real colt button rifled are stronger than CHF
Thunderous Drake no they don't bro I have personally shot out 3 barrels and seen many more taking classes every month a chf chrome lined barrel is by a good margins the longest lasting mine made it 28k before it stoped being combat effective at 50 yards a 6920 went 18k before the chamber was shot out the only other barrel I have seen go over 20k is pof's barrels thy are jame up but Bcm is the best I've seen with dd and spikes chf close behind
thank god for Eugene Stoners idea of having the gas tube fail before the gun can tear itself apart. good thinking
I just finish working on my PSA carbine Length. One of the reason I bought it because of the FN barrel and the 5000 round test Rob Ski did on Ak Operators. So the barrel is decent but the gas tube sucks? I should be ok with a semi auto lower I guess...
trowelstar the gas tube doesn't really suck. It actually did its job. It failed before the rifle did. Think of a gas tube on an AR or M16 like a "fusible link" in an electric device. It burns before any of the more important or expensive parts get destroyed. Not so important in a civilian AR as it is in a Military M4/M16 so yours will most likely not give you an issue.
In reality, all the other AR meltdowns they have done were failures and this one wasn't. The other ARs should have blown their gas tubes before the barrels blew out.
Palmetto State Junk.
Hanlon Kitto Can you go into why you believe that. Besides what the video proved which is what the original design was intended for was the tube to fail before the gun self destruct? Because the gas tube keep the other parts from being damaged. Plus he running a machine gun lower on a system made for semi auto fire. If you run semi auto shouldn't be a problem. Or is it because you are a brand name gun enthusiasts who looks down on other people options when everyone doesn't have the money for a Daniel Defense, Colt, or any other expensive "brand".
trowelstar the AR-15 parts kit charging handle and upper that I got from them a year or so ago were completely out of spec. There is a difference between a well-built AR such as a colt and companies like PSA that are catering to the lowest common denominator. Even though I'm only a weekend warrior I have completely lost confidence in them as anything more than a range toy
Hanlon Kitto That's unfortunate to hear. I just bought mine assemble. Replaced the trigger, handguard, stock, trigger guard, charging handle, muzzle break, and fore-grip....Im hoping mines dont give me any problems. If not I just learn from the experience buy another one. Dont feel bad Im weekend warrior too ☺.
Eric looking more and more like Master Chief every meltdown.
*cries in 2022 Ammo Prices*
I have several PSA parts, uppers, lowers etc. They make excellent products at a great price.
Leaves neck exposed....lol
Robert Kouns *necks
Protect ya neck
Would be great if the armor had a gorget or bevor type thingy.
The people have spoken ! We want a 458 soccom upper meltdown!!!
Can't wait until you you some groups
The rate of fire at first is like music then it sped up and HOOOOEYYYYY
Do a tavor meltdown
Send the channel $1750.00, and perhaps they might do it. Come on these uppers cost less than $400 and even doing a complete rifle the price is less than $1K. All the AK melt downs were donated rifles. I bet the Tavor would do well. Israel has a great reputation for building quality stuff. And the Tavor has been in service for a few decades now with the IDF. As well as, the barrels are cold hammer forged.
Mauser Man...I go to Israel every July for a conference. All I see is Tavor's and some X-95's. Even if an IDF soldier is getting off shift, they bring their rifle with them everywhere. When the IDF is taking promotional pictures or for whatever else, they aren't illustrating the firearm. Which the IDF see's as a tool. Yes, AR15 are still in circulation. However over the last eight years going to Israel. Each year I see more Tavor's of different variants. BTW, I'm not affiliated with Israel in any manner. Just go there for a medical speaking engagement I'm obligated by under contract. I will admit, they people there are nice and I'm always treated quite well. If the Palestinians were smart. The would make nice with Israel and then learn what they could from them. That being said. I suppose war and fighting is big business for many over there. Arafat died a Billionaire.
The reason why the gas tubes these days don't usually fail the way it was supposed to in the original stoner design is because the original stoner design was running 20" barrels with rifle length gas systems. Much more mass to keep the barrel cooler, and much less pressure at the gas journal compared to the carbine/mid length gas systems we use today on the M4 platforms
Do a ruger ar, glad to see a free floating hand guard in the mix
J Shaw I second that.
J Shaw the Ruger ar556 wouldn't be able to shoot full auto without changing the bcg.
Sam Buffington yea but either does the m&p they did a few weeks back. Swap it with a psa bcg and see what happens.
Sam Buffington you’re correct, maybe they could swap bcg’
The ruger wouldnt make it to 200 rounds. The ruger, as a matter of fact, all ruger products are TRASH
So much science, y'all should win the Nobel Prize.
Love all these meltdowns. Keep'rm coming
Inconel is freaking nuts metal. We use it in petrochemical production. Stuff is incredible strong.
Your my favourite gun guy to watch and learn from. The only thing that's leave me in slight distress is the opportunity lost in a second cam during your melt downs. I understand your data and information driven, but.... It would be awesome if there was a link posted to a second video of you dumping mag after mag on some target. Why not. If your concerned it would be a distraction just post it in the comments on another link. It would be cool to see how hard it is to control full auto on a target and do a hit percentage on target. Thanks for you drive, passion, and generous I see constantly in your videos
I love these videos. I just went shooting these past 2 days. CHRISTMAS eve and CHRISTMAS day we were out in victorville barstow area on hodge road on Bureau of Land Management land shooting a fire storm. My shoulder is hurting like a mofo but it was well worth it. I have a dissability that is always giving me pain and im always in the hospital so when ever i go out a have experiences like the one i just had these past 2 days makes me feel so much better. And to see these videos right after 2 days of shooting its such an uplifting thing to see. Keep doing what your doing dont let the haters pin u guys down. Keep doing what u guys do. Much love.
If the protection is for incase it explodes and flings shrapnel, your neck not being covered makes it kinda pointless
I thought that too, where the gun is being held leaves a great angle for shards to fly under the visor and hit upper neck, jaw, face, eyes
And the pads are on the outside of the arms, offering 0 protection from a possible explosion.
Whoo could definitely hear that progressive r.o.f. change
Would be really interesting to see some lightweight/pencil profile barrel run this test.
I like that the gas tube failed it prevented a catastrophic failure
"its supposed be made out of the same metal that a m249 barrel is" its gonna break real fast then man
I never had to swap a barrel in a bullet hose. Spare barrels always stayed in our sponsons in the ancient barrel bags. I’ve never seen a stoppage that didn’t result from lubricant evaporation or belt bind.
@@j.p.1576 on the 240b almost every malfunction was from hot barrel
These are the best videos on the internet
I just bought the 14.7 pinned chf upper and im curious to see part 2 of this video.... Eta on that part 2?
God dang PSA I love you.
Literally just bought this about a month ago!
HawksNest damn hawksnest didnt know you supported the 2A!
Hi lol
A beer with Gunny? Holy smokes. Let's see Yankee do that.
Please do hk 416 meltdown, need to know those m27 is better than m4 or not.
I second this.
Gee Gee
I really doubt that it is...
Here here.
Gee Gee. Safe to say the 416 is worse. It a pure hype gun. It's just a basic AR with a short stroke gas system. Which is bad, they basically beat themselves to death.
TheHandHistoryVault humm. The POF 416 is very similar to HK 416 and the POF would not die. So I have my doubts about a DI AR beating the 416. They are both great but I think piston guns take the win here
Lol Adams Arms is like “death before dishonor..”
Part II FTW!
The best set up for a meltdown is a heavy profile 11.5 barrel with a piston system, in my experience, for severe duty, heavy barrel profile is the best, this is the reason socom had m4 profile barrels made with a medium contour under the handguards.
It's like Christmas all over again
im not a gun collector or vet and really dont shoot much . but when i do shoot , i like to have fun . PSA is my 1st choice
Another great video Eric. Thanks for all you do for the gun community. I really appreciated your knowledge that you share, I have learned a lot from your channel. God Bless!! ✌️😎👍
Love FN CHF barrels. Good stuff as usual man
I wanna see him melt a sig m400 tread
I remember the S&W MP doing really well on this.
Next melt down, Sig 516 gas piston AR
Sig 516 is best rifle
@@soronosorono2105 cheaper barrel steel......soro...no...no
Eric looks like he's going to fight for the Kingdom against the Saviors.
I still wish for a G3 meltdown! :)
This has to be the most enjoyable channel to watch bar none.
Throw a nitrided gas tube in that upper and go for broke. The guys at the machine gun shoot would talk about losing gas tubes all the time, I'm pretty surprised this is the first time you've seen it happen.
@3:36 you can the brass ejection pattern change... nice.
great idea for follow up
Would like to see a BCM meltdown in comparison..why this hasn't been done by 2023 is beyond me!
Why would you upgrade the gas tube when it's supposed to fail. I'd much rather replace a gas tube than a barrel
@@Future-Preps35 You're literally never going to mag dump 400+ rounds in a couple minutes in your entire life. It's never going to get hot enough to fail when you're firing semi-auto, which 99.9% of people will be since almost no one even owns full-auto rifles.
@@Future-Preps35 that's a ridiculous reasoning because many barrels were ruined by training cycles ruining the heat treat of the barrel, and then when the weapon was shot on another day the first few shots through the weakened barrel would cause it to burst.
It's preferable to get stuck with a straight pull bolt action after you burst the barrel than pushing it too far without knowing and then having it explode on your hands with the first round you fire during contact.
@@lizgayle14 alot of people have full auto bruh wtf u talking about
Guys, just replace the gas tube if you're worried about it. I have a PSA premium upper and the first thing I did was dimple the barrel for the gas block and replaced its gas tube with an Aero precision.
Boogaloo Charlie illegally,maybe.
Designed to destroy the cheap tube before ruining any important fundamental parts, a perfect look at the original "meltdown" concept, very nice!!!
Tromix upper in 458 socom meltdown!
TheDoctor that would be sooooooo expensive.....I SECOND THIS
It would leave the biggest bruise
Lmao!! Eric's arm would break off like that gas tube.
OCTurboJoe Eric looks like a big strappin tough guy. I'm sure he would be more than willing to take it for the team!
TheDoctor It would be a sight to see nonetheless.
Niiiiiice. That is a sweet suit.
I was expecting this barrel to do well. FN seemingly does well there. Interesting result.
How about a Radical Firearms upper?
Always good when the part that is supposed to fail first, fails first.