Palmetto State Armory M16A4 / 20” Premium Classic Review & What you should know
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- Опубликовано: 5 дек 2021
- My review of a classic from Palmetto State Armory
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How to fix your canted FSB is below
It’s an Ain Chent Chye Nees Seek Cret
Hit that like button if you really want to know
I actually picked up the classic upper in Feb of 20. I believe mine to be canted as well as I have to. Throw my windage almost completely to the left to zero it. Drives me nuts. So I’d like to know how.
@@CountryMash YES! I want to know how to correct a canted sight.
Ive been a part of 7 PSA put-togethers, and none had canted sight blocks.
Or any other problems for that matter, they've all been serviceable and shot perfectly well straight out of the box.
Im curious to know how you done it as well, I just purchased the psa M4 upper and its fsp was slightly canted as well, I was able to straighten it up myself but curious as to the way you went with as well.
I have 20 years of time training and combat use of the M16A1 and the M16A2 both are fine rifle’s and did there job keeping me alive. I served in the US Army Infantry. I missed it so bad I built one just like it but w/out burst. This one zeroed with six round, and was great at 500 meter’s.
The 5.56x45 was designed for a 20" barrel, after all. Shorter barrels only handicap it.
@traplordghost Thanks; I have wondered about loads optimized for the shorter barrels--it is simply common sense. I had never seen this specifically stated, though.
Specifically the 55 grain was
Bingo
For 55grain yes. Otherwise 77g Mk262 proved the MK12 18in is the sweet spot
@@jackbower8671 Good point. I believe the M855A1 was also developed with 14.5 and shorter barrels in mind.
I joined the USMC in 1978, we started with the A1. I was concerned that it would jam, when I needed it most. In 1986, we were issued the A2. Long story, short; I was very happy that it was my issued weapon until I retired in 2011.
Do you think there's any chance you could be recalled to active duty given the current situation across the Atlantic?
Anyway, I hope you are well and I hope you have a good day.
Thank you for your service Richard.
@@FinalLugiaGuardian Don't think so, but expect false flag events / scare event. Things are not as they seem.
@@elphi4321 Afterall, war is a racket, isn't it?
I have been shooting since I was 4 years old (back in early 50's). When I got drafted and was in basic the M-16's we were issued did not have the forward assist or chromed bore. I was elated to fire such an accurate rifle. All shots center mass on target at 100meters. I still love the classic platform, just wish I could afford one...sigh...Re: the 3 prong flash suppressor...we used that suppressor to open GI issue beer cans, before they had pull tabs. Which was great as long as Top didn't catch you doing it...heheh
You guys are badass
I love my 20" AR's, most have the carry handle, because like you said out to 6 to 700yds I can hit targets. Shooting that far is impractical but it shows it can do it. My main use is 300yds and in, which is pretty easy with a stock 20" AR. Plus it is so soft shooting you can stay on target easier. I think that's why retro is coming back because people are finding that iron sights can get it done.
Can you find one anywhere I've been looking for awhile and I find flat top adjustable stock and 16" BBL for sale in the gun shops and I don't want them
@@jeffreyhershey5754 Atlantic Firearms has the Windham Weaponry 20" model in stock for $829 with the removeable hand guard. I own one of these and they are all mil spec with chrome lined barrel. These are probably one of the best AR's you can get if you just want a stock iron sighted 20" rifle.
@@msantifort right on cool thanks for the info I've never heard of them but all these different companies are are selling lowers and uppers and 80s and this type of rifle or that type and I just want one as close as I can get to what I had to qualify on which is the Left over Vietnam era rifles the M16a1
Yep love my A2ish clone, Bushmaster National Match in an A2 configuration. So soft and easy to stay on target.
@traplordghost The reason guntubers are posting them is because of their growing popularity. And people run irons on them, till they can afford glass
Never heard of your channel brother, but your concise dialogue, editing style, transparency and overall knowledge of the nuance that comes with ballistics and firearms manufacturing is very professional. Your video format/style and camera work is crisp and clean as well. Very nice.
Never had an issue with an A2 while in the Army. I was not a fan of the M4 but that may be due to the fact I'm 6'2" and love the feel of the weapon as it just felt natural. I was always issued a colt for some reason and it was reliable.
I built an A2 clone (with a removable carry handle because I just happen to have on laying around). I built it kind of on a whim. I carried an A2 in the Army so it was kind of nostalgic. After shooting it, man I fell in love. I don't think I "loved" this weapon before, even in the military. But after owning a bunch of other weapons, I've come to appreciate the A2. Since then I replaced the butt stock with an A1 butt stock. It made a huge difference (I'm 5'6'' so length of pull fits much better now). I recently did a competition (organized but just a group of friends). Someone made a comment when I stepped up to the line, "Hey the 70's called, they want their rifle back". He was pretty quiet after I shot. Irons at 75 yards I missed 1 of probably 50+ shots because I was rushing.
Slow is smooth; smooth is fast.
That's all the wanna bees G.I.JOE'S TALKING THEIR SHIT. Good for you
It's more of an A4 clone if it has a flat top upper. Early A4 if it has A2 handguards.
Not really an A2 clone, more of a A4 clone.
Wait what You're alive!?! For the longest time I couldn't find your channel to save my life, I thought youtube axed it or you deleted it to live a life out at sea or something. So happy you're back!
I've had my 20" A2 DCM rifle for 20 years now. Shot Many many competitions with it. Absolutely love it.
Having an A4 clone like that one with an ACOG would really bring back some DM memories.
Qualified expert with the same platform at USAF basic training (1977), silhouette target had a 5” group dead center mass. Range master asked where I learned to shoot. I replied, “coon hunting at night with a cheap Remington nylon 66 at night, flashlight taped to the fore end”.
Do you guys ever get tired of passing these BS country fried stories off as truth?
M16 m16a1 in 1977 not a2
Lol I just taped a cheap led flashlight to my mlok upper on my 12.5 ar pistol in .300blk I am new to ars I owned one before but I am a noob still but I can't afford to spend a lot of money on upgrading it ATM so I needed a light regardless so I taped it where I can comfortably hit the button on and off without changing my grip and honestly it works absolutely perfect can't complain other than it looks like shit but I'll put an olight or something else on it soon enough I guess
@@bandccoresohiowhat light did you end up getting for it
@@bandccoresohiothat’s how it happens haha. I’ve done similar thing. Nothing some electrical tape can fix until you can upgrade. Plus most military stuff is held together with tape and prayers lol
Love the video man, always great content coming out of your channel. Appreciate the time you take to dial in the lighting and focus to make the all around viewing experience cinematic👌🏽🤙🏽
HONESTY is why I always come back!!! Thanks bro! Don't ever change!
So glad to see a vid from you again brother! Hope all is well & keep 'em coming!
Really glad there others who are appreciating and welcoming that simple and reliable can get the job done.
Mash brings the true value approach to these
It's refreshing to hear someone be honest instead of fanboying over what looks tacticool. thanks brother.
Good, clear review. You cover a lot of general M16 design considerations and the frippery people add to their firearms.
I have the same FN upper, but mine is on a PSA A2 lower, it’s been a great rifle so far, my FSB was straight luckily. I prefer the 20” rifle over any other. It’s the was it was designed, it’s the way it was meant to be. I love it! And I totally agree with all your reasons, I feel the same. It’s a great rifle.
1st. And love 20” rifles….
94th
20” 5.56 gun more like
I'm a huge fan of the psa freedom rifle builds. Built a 16" and love it. Accurate out of the box and reliable.
I always like your straight up, no bull reviews Bro! Please keep it up🤘🏼.
20” barrels are the way to go for most people. A standard 1913 railed upper with flip up rear sight, a pencil barrel, standard FSB, and standard trigger. That set up would satisfy just about every single medium range marksman in the USA. Allows for the optional optic without being an over complicated setup. Cheap to produce and cheap to buy.
AR15s have gotten ridiculously over complicated. I can not believe how absolutely absurd they are today. The weapon system was designed to be a light weight and wieldable weapon and yet now there are complete rifles being sold that are almost twice the weight of the original AR15.
Good review. I came to tbe same conclusions about simplicity a while ago. Then again, we were still using the M16A1 and 1911 back when I served in the USMC. I actualy have A1 and A2 builds with fixed carry handle sights in my gun safe. Also agree with paying for the premium kit and getting a higher quality barrel. Can't really go wrong with a 20" build.
I have 2 PSA mid lengths coming My way. Should be here early this week. Can’t wait to try them out. As such, I’ve been getting many of these reviews popping up. I’m old school for sure and absolutely love simplicity not only in firearms, but most everything, including RUclips channels. I’ve watched a lot over the last week and Yours is the only one I subscribed to. Simplicity, Honesty and no Rambo Hollywood theatrics for 5 or 10 minute intro before finally getting to the topic. Thank You!👍👍🇺🇸
Dude you just gained a subscriber from this video with me. I really enjoyed the level headed logic that a lot of people don’t think about.
Simple is better. Have some sights you like, optical or iron, doesn’t matter. Have a light, but only if this is your home defense gun. Maybe a grip for comfort.
However, I don’t think there is a such thing as “too much” until it interferes with the use of the rifle or you’re not using it. Lighten your rifle as much as possible, and make sure you can still use it.
Bro glad to see you back with us again and going strong!!!!!!
I've had one of these for 6 years. Thousands of rounds through it. Lightweight and accurate, on problems whatsoever. Back when I assembled mine I had to buy the A2 stock and Colt Handle separately from Windham. The only upgrade I made was the trigger. Nice to see they are offering a complete rifle now.
My first build was an 80% lower with a Del-Ton 20" upper with the heavy barrel and A2 stock. I chose flip up rear sight and put a decent scope on it. Very accurate, one of my favorites.
Great to see you back making videos. I hope everything is going well.
For free float, all I want is a flashlight, red dot, grip stop and rail covers for when the rail gets hot
Great video. Appreciate your honest review. I really like your comments. It seems so many are just buying stuff to buy stuff. Keep it simple works.
Great review, I love the clean look of these retro rifles. I agree also with the longer barrell and iron sights!
I totally agree with every point you make. I bought an FN AR-15 rifle about a year after it came out. It had held zero from the first time I shot it. I've never had any problems with any ammo I've run through it. As you said, it's bomb proof. If God forbid I ever need to reach for a rifle, it's the one I'll pick up. I worked for me during a tour in Afghanistan and my first tour in Iraq, so yes, I believe in the gun.
You cannot go wrong with Palmetto State Armory. I have built numerous AR rifles for friends and family. They are great shooters!! I built this exact rifle using PSA parts, however mine has a Colt USGI chrome barrel. Very happy with my basic AR/M-16 style rifle.
Did you put a barrel in it with m16 feed ramps? Or did it have m4 feed ramps?
So glad your back!
Looking forward to seeing more shooting and reviews in the upcoming new year. Merry Christmas and happy new year
Love the honest review, thank you so much. Subscribed.
Great video and good questions to be evaluated by what you want your rifle to be. I think simple is best for each purpose. Less is more type of situation. Looking to get into the AR platform of rifles so keep the content coming.
For a guy like me that cut my teeth on an M-16A2 (USMC 1996-2000), this is right up my alley. I have an A2 clone built with a Del-Ton upper that I love, but if PSA brings one out I’ll definitely buy it.
Glad you're making videos again!
Thanks for this review. I like your videos and your commentary is easy to listen to
Great review very informative and honest.
Built one from psa two yrs ago and it’s my sons go to rifle. It’s simple , tough and accurate enough to compete in DCM matches with ease.
New subscriber here. Didn't think anyone could make an engaging review of an AR platform rifle. Even though it is not in my wheelhouse, you are making me want another one.
Very cool. I have built a number of retro rifles in the past few years. The first one is a Colt 601 clone. No forward assist. No brass deflector. No fences on the lower receiver. Duckbill flash hider. “Slick side” baby!
There is a 20” 1:7 twist barrel at the gunsmith right now getting a FSB drilled and pinned. It’s a “white” so it will get parkerized. After I get it back, it gets mounted on an A1 upper. All the furniture is original.
Built an A2 and M4 recently. Both on PSA Government Property marked lowers.
In 2022 I have plans for an XM16E1 build. I have a few parts for it already.
Let us know how you straightened the FSB.
Yes!!
I have an "A2 classic," it's a good shooter. Bought it years ago for the retro vibe before Brownells released their retro line. It's reliable, sufficiently accurate and perfectly serviceable. Not exactly my first pick for home defense or anything like that, but I suppose you could if you duct tape a flashlight to it. My "practical" rifles are still simple though, simple optic + light. No need for anything else. Don't need a dbal to call in airstrikes. :D
@Trap Lord Ghost his point is still fair, you’re never going to need one, until you actually need one but in that scenario you don’t stand a chance
@Trap Lord Ghost are you all that dense? The man is saying NO need for lasers, IR, Grenade Launchers or NODS nor anything else, if only using it as a HD weapon. Damn!
I've had the rock river ar-15a4 for 3 years now. I absolutely love it. I'm even using just a basic old school m16a2 green sling. I don't need all that fancy stuff. I even have a bayonet on my kit.
I bought one of these recently. Had a good feeling about it and you've confirmed what I suspected all along. I did some mods like changing the handguards for a set of rails I got from a storage locker sale (Midwest Industries) and swapped the bolt out for a Toolcraft. Then I changed the pistol grip to a Fab Defense simply because that is what I normally use. The CHF barrel should hold up well; PSA sells the Toolcraft line and it works. Great vid. Wish I'd seen it sooner.
Love the 20" rifles they are great for CMP matches and varmint hunting. I've had a Colt Sporter Target Model since 1990. It shoots 3/4" 10 shot groups @ 100 yards.
If you’ve never shot a 20” fixed stock AR, I’d encourage you to try it. Any 5.56 AR has light recoil but these have no recoil. My buddy has one from Fulton Armory and it made me a believer.
Definitely I’ve got a A2 build and always like shooting it and plenty accurate with iron sights my carry handle is fixed but it’s a old colt upper I found.
I have 3, don't tell my wife.🪖😉
I have the rifle featured in the video. Owned it for about 3 years and NEVER had an issue with it. Awesome rifle and I find I grab it more often than the 16" rifles I own.
In basic training drill instructor had a private put a m16 a2 on his nuts and pull the trigger on the range to show us there was basically no recoil
Our Air Force T.I. demonstrated the full auto function, but we were strictly banned from trying it ourselves. Of course, we were only given 9 rounds at a time, so that would have been pointless anyway!
@@wyomarine6341
My 2 18inch Premium uppers from PSA shoot absolutely lights out with good ammo. Your rifle is exceptionally accurate for the shooting conditions and no free floated barrel. FN barrels are just exceptional.
Absolutely yes show how you straightened the front sight !! Thanks.
Very good video. After the videos of AR-15 with all the stuff they put on, this was very welcome. 🤗
Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
Expensive rifles are nice and all, but to me reliability and acceptable accuracy are more important. Rounds, reps, and training as well.
Great review, love the classic M16 look.
YES! Please make a video how you fixed the front sight cant!
Nice piece. Throw that ACOG on top on the handle! Thanks for the video.
Loving the video and the quality
Saw an interview with Kalashnikov back in the day and he said a philosophy he worked under was, "all that is complex is useless." Basically, keep it simple. So I've always kept to that same philosophy too. I won't put too much on a gun. Flashlight and red dot that's about it. I'm not in the military, I'm not running night ops. What do I need, that's what goes on and nothing more.
I have had this exact rifle for going on 3 years. It has even fed rusty Tula ammo. Awesome rifles and worth every penny.
Nice honest review. Thanks bud
Got a PSA build kit with a 16 inch SOCOM profile barrel. It holds less than 1 MOA with my handloads and doesn't malfunction. PSA is a good to go company.
Great video, guilty as charged. Back to the basics!!
Great stuff. I swear it sounds like you were writing from what I've said for years. I agree with 100% of what you're saying - the only exception is that I prefer a collapsible/adjustable stock. Very objective report and I appreciate it.
Great video and some big facts at the end!
Great review…subbed.
I love the classic A2, it's rugged and accurate. I have one and love it in the classic configuration.
Wanted to update. I tried a scope on mine and shot several groups right at or under 1 MOA. If you’re shootings 1.75” groups at 100 yards with irons, you’re doing pretty good. I’ve been practicing with mine for a while and using hand loads and some days that’s the best I can manage.
A good and honest review. Thanks.
Great review. Love the retro 20” barrel.
One of the best videos I’ve seen on RUclips in years. Honestly.
Stay frosty
Best dang video I’ve seen in a long time
Great video! Keep ‘em coming 👍
Welcome back! Curious to how you adjusted FSB
Great content, as always. Fully agree on the value of a simple rig. Would you consider adding chapter time stamps for those of us forced to cut viewing time short?
I was sad the day we changed out our m16 for the m4. Loved the 20" barrel.
Excellent video !
Very well said !
Thank you
I love my 16” psa premium upper, paired with a sprinco blue spring and h2 buffer it’s my nicest shooting rifle. Psa still gets a bad rap but they’ve definitely upped their quality over the years, the worst I’ve gotten from psa is a loose gas block. My buddy did get an upper with an over clocked barrel and it caused feeding issues,he sent it back and got it back it around two weeks.
You're back! Nice dude
Simple and reliable beats all - would buy one in a heartbeat.
good ol A2, every time I pick one up it's like coming home!
Great video. Great points. Thank you 💙💙
I have a Cot A4, liking it more and more every time I shoot it.
I have this same gun shoots very accurate and soft and looks amazing!
Love the look. I did a Canadian C7 ish build with an aero lower and a 18” rockriver upper.
There's a lot of wisdom in your observations here. Please, tell your generation! (Forgive a cranky middle-aged dude)
I've always found it curious that so many guys spend tons of cash and time investigating the latest customized pistol grips, handguards and red dots, but only get to the range a few times a year. I say, buy ammo and range time!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the A2-style pistol grip or hand guards. They work well and were designed following mucho combat experience with the earlier A1 models. And as far as iron sights go, in my opinion those on the M16A1 and M16A2 are the best we've ever had on a military rifle. Are there advantages sometimes to using an ACOG or whatever? Of course there are. But mastering the iron sights on your rifle can be very rewarding and come in handy when you have dead batteries or busted optics.
Peace bros.
Great review. Thank you for making it :)
Much respect for the honest take here. Simplicity of function for this American Rifle-15. Or otherwise could be known as AMSI. As Mr. Stoner Intended.
I sub now👌
As a eighties baby, I have a thing for these bad bois!
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I have a Colt Match Heavy Barrel from the mid 90's! Changed the trip to a Houge one! Taught on an A2 in the Corps! Flipping Accurate! Don't feel comfortable shooting another set up! I've shot many variations from friends but Go Back to the Basics as I was taught
bought this kit with an aero carry handle and 17D&M lower. though I did swap to an FN BCG. so far so good. no issues.
I have a plethora of rifles and carbines, but one of my favorites is my XM177 Colt Vietnam Reproduction. It is so light, handy, accurate, and reliable. It weighs like 3 pounds, so a lot of times, I prefer carrying that in the woods just for its lightweight and maneuverability. The sling I use is just an old GI GP green strap that has no metal on it, just a little paracord and electrical tape. It's a suburb little carbine, and I typically carry it with the classic 20 round mags with some extras in a bandolier from m855 ammo boxes.
Heck yeah been waiting for this review for a while. Now I won't be bothering you on your social media about it lol....with that being said a super solid review
I literally bought this the other day and I can’t wait to get it from my FFL!
I have this same kit..put it on a PSA M16A2 lower, everyone who shots it loves it
Wow, a gun tuber that isn't a total chad, thanks for the content.