How to Become a Top Performer (ft. Codie Sanchez)
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In an era where “quiet quitting” and “self-care” obsessions seem to be all the rage, there’s a huge opportunity to set yourself apart from everyone else-and it’s not as hard as you might think.
Codie Sanchez (@CodieSanchezCT) set herself apart by buying “boring businesses” and turning her venture into a multi-million dollar enterprise.
But for Codie, it’s about so much more than the money. Her simple mantra is, “question everything”, and it has given her a unique perspective on life, relationships, and happiness, which we explore here in this week’s pod.
This was a fun interview, check it out.
00:00:00 Introduction
00:04:03 What does Codie not give a fck about?
00:05:37 What people say they want vs what they actually want
00:07:19 What does Codie give a fck about that most people don't?
00:11:11 The missions and causes in Codie's life
00:13:07 Codie's biggest lesson from reporting on human trafficking
00:18:34 Enjoying the struggle
00:20:12 The Great Wave of boomer business sales
00:22:34 Enjoying being useful
00:25:59 People are working less than ever?
00:30:17 Why now is the best time to be a high performer
00:32:42 Why aren't there more women in this space?
00:38:40 Men's and women's self-development content
00:41:57 Social media vs IRL
00:46:15 Reacting to current events vs being timeless
00:47:55 Cycles on the internet
00:50:17 Too many f*cks?
Codie’s RUclips Channel:
/ @codiesanchezct
Codie’s Website:
contrarianthinking.co
My stuff:
/ markmanson
/ iammarkmanson
/ markmansonnet
/ markmanson
/ iammarkmanson
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I think the thing that goes missing in all of these conversations about "performance" and "productivity" is that a lot of people are uninterested in being a top performer. They want to be good at what they do and enjoy their work, and get paid a living wage for it. But current thinking says that you need to be a one percenter, and if you're not making it, it's your own fault. The real problem is that our values have become skewed so that we are told that more money is the only impulse worth following, not loving what you do.
I think this message is for the people who DO want to be top performers. And the less other people try the easier it is for those people to compete. Any path is valid, but for those who seek to excel, these messages are encouraging and informative.
@@samanthabarron8481 Valid point.
But what do you mean when you say "the less other people try the easier it is for those people to compete"? I may be missing your meaning, but that statement seems to confirm my point that our values are skewed.
To clarify my comment, I didn't mean to suggest that one shouldn't put in a solid effort in one's chosen field and just get by. I meant that we have become captivated by results rather than process.
Why be a top performer if you hate the way you spend your time day to day?
Tell me what you think top performers are. I love the opportunity to learn!
It's funny how CEO's are giving advices to other CEO's, businessmen and entrepreneurs:
- Let others do work they don't want to do
- How they can work less hours (so they can spend more time with families, of course)
- to work only on things that matter (happier, richer)
- How to sell this thing for 10 times the price. So they can sell to less clients (basically to work less, of course (to spend more time with their families, of course))
- How to buy a business and make other people DO THE ACTUAL WORK
And how the same people give advices to other people:
- JUST. WORK. HARDER.
- WORK MORE
- YOU DON'T WORK HARD ENOUGH
You're beginning to understand manipulation... this is only an example of the tip of the iceberg
Before having children, all these topics made sense. Now that I have a child, listening to optimization podcasts feels unbearable and almost meaningless.
As a parent myself, I couldn’t agree more. When she mentioned that she was hoping to have children in the future, it all made sense. This type of mindset Doesn’t seem ridiculous when you don’t have kids but the minute you do, your priorities change completely.
I understand you vey well.
@@dryananderson I have not much faith in her wish, not sure if she is able to accept a little person in her life that does not care about money. But honestly, i wish her the best and hope she can find a way to fulfil it.
@@dryananderson I don’t have kids but I completely get this. But I think I (we) want to be the best versions of ourselves, do a lot of inner work, make a lot of money, before we have kids to make life easier for us and them. We only have ourselves to live for so of course we have this selfish-like thinking.
It's funny how they say there is so much noise and people don't know where to focus their attention and yet they contribute to this media noise and profit the hell out of it.
I have to disagree with her on Quiet Quitting and Work/Life Balance. Do not give out your efforts to an employer without adequate compensation. Sure, going above & beyond gets you noticed, but it can also be easily abused by your employer. I've been personally burned by this, doing the work of someone who in any other company would be making double my salary. Never again. Quiet Quitting is not being lazy or lacking effort. It is purely doing the job you are paid to do and nothing beyond that. If the employer wants more out of you, they should properly incentivize you through increased pay/benefits...and not just pizza parties and pats on the back.
Agree. But I think she spoke from a different level where she's not sitting in a cubicle working for a corporation.
Work with this mindset enough and this will be your default. Nothing kills you more than complacency. When she said that I was kind of thrown off but I’ve seen her on other pods before. Complacency was her main point. Even though I do agree with you that the employer should compensate you for your work. I also don’t like when people have this mindset of just doing their job. I’ve seen this to many times where just doing the job turns into carelessness and horrible personal standards.
Yeah, standing by an employer who doesn't respect your contributions and won't adequately pay you is overall detrimental. I worked for a company for 4 years, started as a grunt on night shift, eventually worked my way up to lead trainer, then got a day-shift role, then got an office job with the same company. I have plans to move to TN next year for schooling, and I informed them of this during my interview for the office position, and they said it would be no problem.
Fast forward six months, they tell me that they don't want to pay for a certificate that would allow me to operate in the office position; I'm being moved back to night shift. I did it for one week and put my two weeks in. If an employer doesn't respect you, cut ties and get the fuck out as soon as possible.
@@KKzErstorungi guess it depends on what the job is and what your real efforts are being put. A lot of people work their jobs in order to do something else they actually care about, that might not make them money. If this is the case, totally and absolutely do not give an inch more than what you are asked. Period. And that is not slacking. Also, if you do what you do well, but don’t want to do extra for no extra pay? What is the problem with that? People do have lives and other interests, you know. Time is are only real limited resource.
@@XxIsolationistxX that is clear cut disrespect. I’m currently in a similar position and is leaving soon. The only reason I haven’t already left this job really is my crew.
Disappointed again. Another superficial conversation that does not take into account the current economical landscape and class analysis. Proceeds to paint the younger generation as being "too soft".
Simple point to consider. Are people being overworked or not? If minimum wage had kept up with inflation and productivity it would be over $20 per hour. If you are being payed a rate that barely keeps up with the financial stresses of society you will feel overworked.
Also, and this is anecdotal: EVERY single boomer who has given me a lecture about how soft the millennials and GenZ have become and how "back in my day, blah blah blah", has quit within two weeks of working a "regular" job.
So I will apologize if I do not buy into her bullshit, and Mark's as well.
Dude, you can do better. Stop being so superficial. Be a high performer, you have the resources to go deep there is no excuse.
Word
Agreed.
Thank you 💚 agreed
It's American what did you expect
I generally agree that Mark’s stuff has gotten weird lately, but I’ll push back just a bit.
What is “gen z”? Where is gen z? I mean that literally. Based on recent stats gen z have been doing quite well relative to the millennials actually, but the political and social climate is profoundly different. Min wage here is also $20, which is much different from the federal rate. The cold hard truth (in my experience) is that you cannot be complacent, and humans need to be active: use it or lose it. I’m using active extremely broadly, but by that I mean physically, intellectually, socially, etc. You don’t socialize? Goodbye social ties and community support. Dont use your brain? Brain fog, memory issues, early onset dementia, you name it. Don’t walk further than your car? Say hello to joint problems, depression, weight gain.
It sucks how hard it all is. Sometimes stuff falls through, but the point is to continue to strive. That’s how people live long and healthy lives. That’s how change is also made, by continuing to work at a problem continuously. And we need people on this planet right now who give a shit and actually put in the work.
There’s significant other criticisms to be made about this video (including yes her background) but that’s been covered enough lol.
Of course an owner of a company will want you to work your ass off and not quiet quit or want a work/life balance. Slaves who work hard are rewarded with more work for zero compensation. She definitely loves those.
Nailed it.
Yeah this is a rare miss for Mark compared to some of the other guests like Ryan Holiday
i don't think she was talking about people who work in a cubicle..
@@AndrewThoesen LOL, no, she had great views on pretty much everything they talked about; I was very happy about them. No brainwashed extreme feminism for example.
You don't see the forest from the tree. She doesn't want employees who wine without a reason. And the world is full of those people right now. You sounds like someone who ate up the victim crap they are feeding you, so now you hate everyone who is above you, instead of trying to learn from them. And with that you basically screw yourself (and the world around you). I'm not saying there aren't shitty employers (because there are many), but not all employers are the same shitty.
Pretty much sums it up...
"Go understand the whole financial landscape and what all your options are, and become super highly skilled in the thing that seems easiest to you, but is harder to other people. And then go see who will pay you the most for those skills. And after they have paid you a certain amount of money, see if you understand enough to go recreate the skills for yourself somewhere else, or invest the money that you've now learned how to make. "
thanks!
Thank you for the summary
This might be the channel's worst podcast ever. The way she talked about the bar being too low and people should not be working. Saw some comments saying that it reflects the US alone, which I really don't think so. It's common to hear average Americans working 2 jobs and more to make ends meet. Not to mention other than sprouting generic advice.....nothing substantial on how to "make it".
As a fan, lately I feel like Mark Manson has been caught in the influencer bubble and is out of touch with what regular people's lives are like. And he's surrounding himself by others who are doing the same.
His recent content also gives me a boomer "I bought my house for dirt cheap 20 years ago; todays kids are lazy" vibes mixed with some Jordan Peterson right-wing content for young men type of vibes.
Maybe this is where he's at in his life. Surrounding himself by other rich entrepreneurs/youtubers, and they mostly discuss things that are only relevant to them. Things which are really prevelant issues for youtubers and such, but not what most people actually care about. Which is fine. But if you're trying to make a channel for millions of people, it's just not going to relate to everyone.
@@Seven-pu5wj I feel the same way. I’ve been a listener for a long time but I feel like with this RUclips channel he has to milk his book out as much as possible.
However I reread the book recently and his whole section on participation trophies aged like milk and I think it’s indicative that he’s always had out of touch views and we just didn’t notice it back then
On top of that the whole brand of not giving a fuck is starting to give “Shut up snow flake. Idgaf 😎 “ energy
I used to do odd jobs in my twenties, working a lot but not for much money and spent most of it getting stoned.
When I was 31 I decided to go to college. Got a decent job that paid the bills. I am currently 38 and doing my post graduate diploma and recently got hired as an enginner by a big.pharma company. Now I can save money. And my parents were farmers in a post soviet country.
Most people just make bad life choices like I did in the past
She’s very young and will be telling a different story in 20 years.
Riiiight, because nobody older than thinks the same.....
I like how Mark confronts her idea that "The struggle is happiness" with examples of how people who work hard are not happy, and she's like: "Oh, but maybe the job unpurposeful". Well, maybe THE PURPOSE is happiness and not "the struggle"?! Damn she's so funny! Why do podcasters always ask businessmen about purpose, happiness and all that stuff?
8 to 6, 5 days a week, IS overworking!🙄 Especially, if you have a family, which (spoiler alert!) is the case for most people.
People like her are the problem, and I have zero respect for anyone who undermines other people’s struggles. Burnout? Nah, you just need to work more🙄
It’s an interesting concept. And might be true if the world was designed in such a way as to reward those that work hard and are extraordinary. But it doesn’t - it rewards owners, lobbyists, the sociopathic, the psychopathic, the narcissistic, the families of those that already have money, power and access, and the corrupt. People that are able to make a huge impact through pure talent are the rarity. This person seems to think people are generally lazy and need to step up their game. Tell me again how a doctor on a 90 hour week or a teacher teaching 40 kids on close to minimum wage needs to step up their game to be exceptional.
Great points!
I don't believe the intention is for people who are burning themselves out to burn themselves out further... I will say from my personal experience, I started a large personal side project a few months ago, and its taken me dramatically more time and effort than I realized. I think it's easy to have seen the people who are successful in my target field as being lucky, and maybe they were on some level, but I think it's easier to call people sociopaths, psychopaths, narcissist's, etc. then ever actually try. It gives a good soothing to the ego that I'm already working too hard and if I try anymore I might end up like those weirdos. I will say in taking my own project, it had the opposite effect from what I expected. I used to come home from work burned out and just play video games, but by having something I'm owning and working on, it's given me a lot more energy and mental resources to the point where I do my day job better and I still have several hours of energy at the end of the day for my own project. I've had friends who went from being 80 hour week doctors to getting jobs in medical research where they cut their hours in half, and they have more time for helping develop future long term solutions, as well as doing further work on the subjects in their own time. There's new ways to be a teacher with online courses and classes where they can use those skills and monetize them differently. There are endless pivots these days, they might not make you a millionaire, but plenty can make you a livable wage that still frees up your time.
@@alcibiadesonthestreets Keep it up. The rewards are not only monetary. Good luck.
@@alcibiadesonthestreetsYou brought up a great point. So many people want to make the excuse that the people who are at the top just used everybody and they were lucky because it helps them feel better about their own lives as opposed to them knowing they have the ability to be great which comes at a great cost of sacrifice and discipline. People truly don’t wanna hear the truth that they’re simply lazy. Anything but that.
loser mentality
I've been a striver and I've tried being retired. What do I prefer? Striving. I'm back in the workforce because life is BORING without a job. I need the stimulation. I'm driven to learn as quickly as possible and excel in my role. Once I do that, I move on to learn more. I'm excited to see where my yearning for excellence will take me. My life rocks!
I don't think I agree at all. Maybe we have lower expectations with respect to the past 5-10 years. But not at all to any other time. What was expected of boomers? Have a house and a family? Doesn't sound too much to me. To cavemen? Survive? To millenials onwards: you can be anything, and so you should be everything and achieve a lot, otherwise you're a failure because you had all the opportunities.
This is interesting because in my job we are overworked and under payed, 45 hours. And every year something gets cut. We had holiday pay taken . We have had vacation taken away, etc. I personally have seen things get worse. The better you work the more work they give and if someone quits instead of hiring someone else we get more work piled on. I work landscaping maybe it is different in my line of work.
Have you looked for a solution like a new job with better conditions?
Seems to be true for a lot of trades.
Tbf looking for another job might be an idea. Some employers don't reward loyalty and just take the piss.
@paulofurtado4925 yes I have . I am also trying to move to a less expensive area. I also need it during certain times because single mother . I am also going to school. Computer information systems. Also ultimately going to star my own computer business one day. So I have plans and I am trying
@alicequayle4625 right they don't reward it they take advantage of it and it's sickening. I am trying to move on to something better.
I've heard it said in so many ways, but I think "Have fun struggling" is my favorite. It can be said in a sarcastic tone, but I like that, too.
You’ve made me aware of my personality of trying to beat myself at my own game. It's what keeps me going, I now realize. Thanks for that.
Haha oh i relate to this one so well, too.
@@hnnhmlI'm damn sure that neither one of you really know the struggling he is referring to. Your idea of struggling is not getting whip cream on your fappamochachinalatte.
Thanks bro, I love you and Codie but I disagree with your opinions. For me most of that advices will make you burned out, frustrated and tired. In life there are so much more than to be productive in a workplace. Doing "boring businesses" for the money sounds awful. What is the purpose of pushing your self to the limits for a company?
I would hate for her to be my mum. Yikes. She comes across as very “I’m not like other girls”, but the 30+ millennial business edition.
Her ego has had much to do with her successes. Mark's ego recognizes that, the ego often does, and that contributes as to why you hear Mark so comfortable in talking about his own.
I don’t know, I’m finding this one quite repetitive. It’s like Mark has these same ideas that he wants to drive home and keeps pushing them to guests. Instead of really being curious about their lessons and stories.
I’m getting a “you agree with me , right? Tell me how you agree with me and gen z sucks. Oh but I empathize…” vibe
That’s how conversations are. You talk to people, sharing your opinions and beliefs, let them reciprocate, and maybe adopt some new ideas.
Gen z does suck
That's because he's attracted to her lol. Or that was the feeling I got, maybe I'm wrong.
@@quixoticPrancer lol
I have been a “helper” all my life. It is only at 36 years old that I am realizing that I only have so much time to give and I should have focused on my own financial self-interest for the last decade so I could have the resources to make more of an impact on those who need the most help, the kind that I can’t give when I’m broke.
It's all about whether or not your work is meaningful. When I worked at a job selling junk making money for other people in an environment that was sensorially overstimulating while having health issues, I was miserable and wanted every hour off I could afford. I had to spend all my hours off work recovering from work. It was sucking my physical and mental energy. I am now self employed doing something I find meaningful and I can work for 12 hrs without noticing. Oh, I also work with my husband. I feel recharged by work, not drained. If the people you work with are good people and it is not too cold or loud or physically uncomfortable (like manual labour) and meaningful, it does not even feel like work.
About the whole 'overworked' thing. Often there is this expectation set, that we are in a rush and we have to achieve things, but it's not clear needs exactly to be achieved. Basically people are being busy, but spinning in a place. Often you rely on someone else giving you a green light on the particular thing in 10 places for that one task, so you just basically run around being busy without achieving anything because you don't have the space set up where you can just sit and work. That interconnectedness of everyone is not always a good thing
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S. Thompson
You might also want to look at the ways work has changed when looking at the statistics of hours worked ”on the clock”. Looking at email/Slack/etc after hours is also work that just will not get tracked anywhere.
I would even go as far as saying that putting those boundaries up of not doing work on your free time will allow you to be the high performer at work because you are able to think clearly (and question things), deliver what you promised because you are able to manage your work since you are not fucking tired all the time.
Tired stuff é bubu
Tbf there's more overcompetiton than ever before. Like take India, there's just too many people to compete against in everything ranging from college admissions to job vacancies. Saying that its easier than ever before is a lie, its rather quite the opposite.
Indeed, this is a very US-centric conversation
if you live in first-world countries, she is right.
If you live in anywhere else, you are right.
Exactly @@Gun_Metal_Grey
I mean you guys haven't watched the complete video and here you're complimenting it.
That’s the power of being extraordinary 😉
Lol
@@djordje16 wow! What a great way to justify compliments.
@@yamanmallickwouldn't that make the compliment empty?
@@yamanmallick i know right! its crazy
I really like Codie’s thought process and ability to articulate herself. Great conversation!
Every job I've ever had I've been a high performer and promoted into management. Problem with this is now YOU are the one that has to manage these lower performers. It sucks. So does it really pay off to be a high performer?
This.
But are they better problems to have?
@@K.J.H_ I didn’t think so. My last job before I retired I had a quite challenging time staying out of management and it was the best time of my career.
@@rickchandler2570 fair enough. It's good to know yourself in these cases. In my last engineering job I had the opposite problem where I was good at the technical development side and hence getting pushed that way, but I preferred solving problems at a higher level and managing for broader outcomes.
There's a lot of engineers that can't stand managing people though and kind of bottle neck around the technical expert levels where they are happiest.
@@K.J.H_ Yes that was exactly me.. Why management feels that their best technical person will make a good manager is beyond me. I worked for Intel for a few years as well and their career paths were more to my liking where you could go the technical path or management path. Technical didn't always have to lead to management.
She sounds delusional, like she was born into a wealthy family and thought everyone who was not rich was just lazy and stupid.
I disagree, no where is the interview did she say that everyone who is not rich is just lazy or stupid. She merely pointed out that our current system of education and incentives encourages people to be lazy and stupid.
This mentality of being calm while driving a car, with a very similar example to this one given by Codie how to handle it, I read in the great book The Untethered Soul
The Journey Beyond Yourself by Michael A. Singer
People are looking for purpose, fame, money or liberation. The 4 categories. Love you guys!!!
Health issues. When I am down with a fibromyalgia flair or any of my other health issues, I feel so mad at myself for not doing stuff. I just have to physically rest, but it is so hard for me. When I am healthier I am very productive.
I like the message “have fun struggling “. I am exactly the person who can not put up with myself doing nothing, same day today as yesterday.
The conversation at 22:40 seems so incredibly out of touch. The answer is simple: Companies and organizations have weaponized our love for our job. They use our love for our work to help justify salaries below what people deserve. When you show that you love your job, that’s just an invitation to be paid less because they know you will stay. It’s hard to love a job you’re not compensated for.
What an insightful discussion! 🙌 It's fascinating how the lessons from history still resonate today, especially regarding technology's impact on inequality. Codie's journey and advocacy for high performance are truly inspiring, highlighting the importance of continuous learning, resilience, and embracing opportunities in today's dynamic landscape.
Loved Codie on DOAC as well, an important & necessary conversation.
That vocal booth looks FINE AF!
I like that insulation wall
😆 🤣 😂
Love the moment at 50:12 where Mark Manson realizes he's out of his depth taking about the economy with Codie and his whole body language starts screaming "oh gosh why am I talking about this right now, please make it stop" and his voice goes up 😂
More than having a laugh at your expense, it's also nice to see that you caught yourself in that moment and changed topics. It might be a total projection and I totally read that wrong, but it's still a moment that helps me trust Mark even when I have conflicting beliefs once in a while😊
Here is a summary of the key points from the conversation between Mark Manson and Codie Sanchez:
Codie started writing online in 2020 when the pandemic hit, focusing on contrarian thinking and helping people understand money and business. She believes money is the key to making a real difference in the world.
As a journalist covering the US-Mexico border, Codie realized money, not just awareness, was needed to help people. This led her to pursue a career in finance.
Codie and Mark discuss how struggling and being pushed to improve is important for happiness and success. Mark shares how he likes the challenge of improving his content when videos underperform.
They note how average work hours are at historic lows, yet many people feel overworked. High performers willing to work hard have a huge advantage in the current environment.
Codie wants to see more women in business focused on winning and success rather than just female empowerment. The business/money space is still male-dominated.
Social media tends to put people into demographic bubbles and assume the worst in others. Mark tries to interpret triggering things charitably.
Codie cares too much what people she respects think of her work. Mark struggles with delegating control of his content to others.
The overall themes touch on the importance of hard work, handling social media, and the gender dynamics still present in the business world. Both share challenges with not caring what others think.
I feel there’s a connection between women and the things readily associated with “too feminine” that gives this highlighting of women ceos or women supporting women events a strong sense of validity and legitimacy. Exactly because pink color or crocheting or manifesting gets to be laughed at, mocked at, not seen as professional, many women don’t feel welcomed. Personal opinions aside, even if these things aren’t “real” or “serious,” they are a kind of product that aims at people who, for whatever reasons, have a genuine need for them and this is just as important as anything else. Spending time, energy and resources becoming fluent in them does mean, in many cases, that it is about the gendered experience that women share. In fact, I’d argue that whatever business it is, it is all gendered and the reason why we don’t see it is exactly what calls for our attention and recognition of how deeply gendered everything is and has been and continues to be.
the whole pick me and i'm not like other girls energy was everywhere
One thing that seems to get missed from the critics of work/life balance are the concepts of Cal Newport. At least for the knowledge sector. Sure we might be “clocking” in less but we are available everywhere with devices. Being pinged non stop in the knowledge work sector is not natural to our brain. Sure I can try to limit work email, IM’s but what if those are metrics the Boss is looking at? It implies a cultural shift is needed. Work more on meaningful stuff including outside of work is key and should be preached as an overall life balance.
I like to understand the message by thinking that human are not like a steam machine that will explote from presion if you dont open the exit valve. If you act out your feeling because you think you have them stuck up inside of you, then you are just cultivating those negative feelings
Higher skilled? Nah, the people that are willing to expIoit others you mean.
Sigh, it's a well known thing that people lie, in some cases blatantly lie, on surveys.
As an autistic/adhd that feels uncomfortable lying, I never understood why people can just do it, mind you I only found out a few years ago I'm neurodivergent so 🤷.
I also don't get people who have energy left at the end of the day, like everything I do I have to put everything in and it just leaves me with nothing.
Worse it puts me in constant burnout that I also only learnt about in terms of my own health when I found out I'm AuDHD.
Old and wrinkled? God I envy fully abled people so bIoody much
Money is great if you've got it. I'm so tired of these people with literally billions who could actually make great change and they just... Hoard it.
Isn't that just an addiction to the adrenaline of the situation of being the underdog/failing?
Being of service just got me used and abused and left with nothing, it's not that I had no boundaries/doormat, but that people would use my generous nature and backstab me behind the scenes.
Enjoy what you do? I've had to fake it for every job I've had, and I was successful at it. But still unable to find anything I love that I can make money from.
Thanks to Mark’s Team for having a hook opening-AND following through! I get the marketing strategy, but I’m so tired of hearing the info cut off and then having to listen to an hour and a half podcast to find out the end of the hook sentence!! Thank you!
This was such a great episode. Was the first time watching Mark Manson. I am big fan of Codie Sanchez and thought the combination of you two talking about human psychology from a tangible, relevant space was thought provoking. I am a female contractor who owns my own business and built it from nothing. And I believe my super power is being a female in a male dominated space. It does not make it easy, and I definitely have my daily struggles, but I feel like it helps me stand out just a little bit more against the norm.
I was dozing off listening to this (and enjoying it, by the way), but when you guys started talking about the “girl-boss” mindset and business around the 33:59 mark… I jumped straight up. I could listen to a woman address this topic for two hours. Would love to hear you talk with a woman addressing this issue. 🙏 Mark Moss
I usually love your content, and it has helped me recover from depression and anxiety when "professional" counseling did absolutely nothing. However, as someone who graduated with a MS in physics 4 years ago, sent out dozens of job applications, got rejected from most without an interview, the few jobs I did manage to land were traumatic nightmares, and I still rely on my parents to help pay the bills, the message of this video fell flat. Businesses are designed to gatekeep wealth and exploit the poor, not provide opportunity.
Thank you so much for have a real conversation about equality, as we are all just people, as individuals we can learn towards the direction of our desires; regardless of our gender, although I do understand pushback from those that are not a custom to equal opportunity.
Love the interview, especially the grace Codie speaks about those who make fun of you, on social media.
It was Mark who said people should view a comment with the most charitable interpretation. Thats grace. Codie just said to ignore it. Not grace.
Great Episode! Love the chemistry between you twos and the story you shared where you loved the struggle while living with your ex. Very motivating. I love Codie's life story and thanks for the book recommendation. The new studio is looking good as well. Super proud of you man I remember reading your blog/model at 14-15 years old in 2012 when I had a hard time in high school and it helped me quite a bit. Also, the comment about men and women content consumerism splitting is so true. May be why when I talk to my millennial friend they seems more chill / less embedded in a "gender war" since they grew during the time where the content was split 50/50 but when I talk to my GEN Z counterpart it's as if men and women have their own camp.
If I can share a story like I've seen a graph of men and women who identify as feminist, and the generation that had the highest level of feminist and closest levels among men/women were the millenials but for Gen Z womens identify more as feminist and mens less. One time I debated with friends and told nonchalantly that I support women and their cause therefore I am a feminist but my friend told me that men cannot be feminist and that mens are trash and I was kind of taken back. I think those type of statement just make the situation worse and work against the cause/message.
Love the analogy with surfing, moving to the next thing. Particularly knowing you love to surf and the fact that you keep adapting your content, moving forward
I really liked this podcast and agree with much of it. I love striving. I’m a learner and a do-er. But if you’re not good at being pushy about raises and getting more money…you’ll never get paid more. Companies take advantage. Changing jobs is hard so you have to find the right company to give this effort to.
Codie: I want to squeeze every drop out of every day
Also Codie: It’s so bizarre. Why did people remove the fun out of struggling?
Maybe it’s because 1 usually leads to 2, and for most people it’s their bosses squeezing each drop of blood out of the employees, and not self-inflicted death.
What an introduction Mark! Wow. Here for it.
Ok. I'm 9 minutes and plan to watch the whole thing, but I have to comment that this woman is way over the top ambitious! I mean hey if that's what "floats your boat"!I'll stick to being "boring"...Less is more!
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No words to describe how amazing was this podcast. Thanks Mark and Codie!
I agree with the "justifying beliefs" things. I've been saying this for years now. Everyone is "triggered" and has mental health issues these days. Tell yourself you're strong and you got it.
I have been following Mark for quite some time, because I always found his insights on life to be really valuable and contain lots of wisdom. But this podcast episode especially and some of his most recent episodes have been so incredibly off the Mark (pun intended). His advice has taken this "Gen Z bad", somewhat conservative pivot, that rather than providing real actionable advice and value to people, instead comes off as glib and misinformed at best, and as greedy rage-bait at worst.
Codie Sanchez is a controversial podcast guest to have on. She is in the same vein of those financial influencers who promise get rich quick schemes and quick financial freedom if you just buy their $10,000 course (that's right, she actually has a $10k course) on how to make money buying small businesses. And if you fail its because you didn't "work hard enough". It serves as a cover for her ass when you fail despite buying their eggregiously overpriced course. She takes advantage of desperate people who don't know any better. I am incredibly disappointed that Mark and his team had such a person on his podcast.
Not to mention that in this conversation, he agress with her all her talking points, doesn't challenge her, or provide any value or actionable advice to the audience. The message of this podcast is just "Work Harder". Why? On what? For what? What happened to the deep thinking, existentialist, didn't give a f*ck Mark Manson, who wrote well-thought out, and valuable self-help, for everyday people? Please do not fall into the trappings of get-rich self help content.
Never reading the comments of a podcast again. Don't know whats the situation in the United States but this is sound from where I'm from. Even in terms of the USA some of the people here lack comprehension skills or media literacy to know when advice applies to them or not.
I find her inspiring, intelligent, and cool. I like her. I’m trying to listen but feel like there’s a piece I’m missing.
How can I work at one of her businesses? Does she have one in Austin? The current business I work for doesn’t reward high performers. In fact it actively appears them. The owner/boss openly said it’s good to “brown nose your boss”. Based off my coworkers’ performance, it totally makes sense.
3:42 I'm surprised this question came up, and honestly, underwhelmed by the answer and conversation around it. I mean, hasn't feminism been discussing this particular issue for a long time and then when women finally enter the conversation you have a bunch of men having a tantrum? Like medicine, law, etc. Why haven't women had this conversation? Because, in the West, over the last century, it was drilled that it wasn't a woman's role in society to make money, and now, you men like Charlie Kirk saying there are no gender inequalities but that women are ahead. This is the case for some, but the majority are still dealing with misogynistic fathers and educators. The term Girl Boss came in an attempt to claim a space, however, it is a space designed for men. You can't fit women into male boxes, you need to craft a whole new element that was destroyed in the past century. For centuries it was a woman's role to manage finances. The topic is an entire cultural thesis that has local, social, economic and cultural implications. This entire conversation was honestly disappointing. It had its valuable insights, but for the most part, third graders can give more in-depth analyses
You can connect mainstream and business by telling life stories and doing a good product placement together with business lessons included as a part of the story. And don't forget to introduce a bit of drama. People love dramas :)
Lol i haven't seen this much hate in a long time 😂 reading the comments was fun😂
My take is do your best and be happy with that.
Every -one sells one's per chance edge, got anyhow, for selfishness. No exception! Mind, per chance Chemical formation in you - is the key.
"Mark Moss"....omg Codie IS human in fact human after all! 😅 Never once saw a crack in that girls armor.
i feel so awakened watching this conversation.. loved codie and her relentless approach to how to define a woman. just as a human . loved loved
And still able to throw in nods to the importance of religion and wanting to have kids and talking about moms having businesses. Which are all touchy feely things that are painful to accommodate if you’re that focused on keeping things efficient.
Love your content. Closed captions cover your info boxes and it sorta sucks
Does anyone else feels that they can’t believe a word of what this woman says!
Listening at her speeches , it seems like she has done Everything UNDER THE SUN, and everything she says is self promotion!!!
I got the investment grifter energy from her, she sells courses in that category
@@rebeldown771 she just a seller! Everything she says is self promotion and honesty to me 90% her stories comes across as made up!
This is the new thing. Its someone who started their own business that went mildly well and then talk about how to be successful and that’s how they actually make money. Its a never ending cycle of no actual production just selling hope with no warranty which has always been profitable but not something you should aspire to. I liked marks first book but his RUclips channel feels like a big turn from his original philosophy. Now he’s basically every other get rich quick guy.
well she has done everything, for a week each.
maybe she did it long enough to understand it, delegate it, move on.
whoa, the sparks are flying in this interview lol
"How to get more women interested in business in a way that, like, still allows them to be a wife and a mom and feminine. Like, I don't think we have to divorce those two things." OMG, she was so close to getting it... 🤦🏼♀
Great intro segment Mark. I thought it was a great summary of ‘why I should give a f**k’ about this episode :)
@45:30 apply Haydon's Razor
Most patronizing video on this channel.
why lol
Your podcasts excite me the most! I don't know who this person is, but i trust your choices, so of course i will give this a listen! 😄
😮 codie has her own channel (and much more) and in my opinion creates some of the most valuable videos on youtube about entrepreneurship (and more). You should definitely check her videos out:)
I can't wait to buy a manscape razer, it's a jungle down there.
Here we go MARK MOSS IS AT IT AGAIN!
thank you , i will read the book!
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:29 *📚 The Durant's "The Lessons of History" highlights how technological advancement rewards higher skill and effort, creating greater inequality.*
01:54 *💼 In an age of technological advancement and lowered expectations, being a high performer offers more rewards with less competition.*
02:22 *📈 Codie Sanchez, a high performer, emphasizes the value of pushing oneself in an era where hard work is undervalued.*
04:19 *💡 Codie's journey from journalism to finance and then entrepreneurship was driven by a desire to make a tangible impact by understanding and leveraging money.*
08:14 *🌟 Codie advocatesfor setting high standards and expectations to encourage personal and collective growth, contrasting the current trend of low expectations.*
15:31 *💰 Understanding and mastering the language of money is crucial for effecting change and achieving financial success, according to Codie's insights.*
19:21 *🧠 Mark reflects on his dislike for the corporate world and his affinity for the scrappiness of entrepreneurial endeavors.*
20:47 *🎯 Embracing the journey over the destination can be a superpower, fostering continuous growth and resilience.*
21:45 *🔍 Mark and Codie discuss the motivation behind striving for improvement, drawing parallels to Michael Jordan's competitive mindset.*
22:47 *🤹♂️ Embracing the struggle and challenge of work can lead to a more fulfilling and purposeful life.*
23:47 *🚀 Employment and meaningful work contribute significantly to happiness and well-being, emphasizing the importance of feeling useful.*
26:11 *🕰️ Despite perceptions, average work hours in the US are at their lowest, with modern technology blurring the lines between work and personal time.*
30:26 *💼 In a competitive landscape, consistent performance and continuous improvement set individuals apart, despite the challenges of entrepreneurship.*
33:20 *👩💼 Codie discusses the need for a shift in the narrative around women in business, focusing on success rather than gender.*
36:53 *💡 Exploring ways to encourage more women in business while embracing diverse roles and identities, highlighting the disparity in audience size among different content sectors.*
38:52 *📈 The personal development audience has historically been divided by gender preferences, but in the 2000s and 2010s, it became more unified. Recently, there's a noticeable split again, with audiences becoming more gender-dominated.*
40:17 *📊 Cultural and political divergence between genders, especially among younger demographics, is concerning. Algorithms may unintentionally exacerbate this by creating demographic bubbles, limiting exposure to diverse perspectives.*
42:17 *🤖 Online interactions lack the nuance of in-person communication, leading to misunderstandings and quick judgments. Educating oneself and resisting snap judgments can help navigate online discourse more effectively.*
44:13 *🛡️ Emotional self-regulation is crucial in navigating online spaces. Limiting emotional triggers and adopting a charitable interpretation of others' actions can reduce stress and improve online interactions.*
47:10 *💼 Avoiding clickbait and short-term trends can contribute to longevity in online presence. Choosing battles wisely and focusing on timeless topics can sustain relevance over time.*
50:35 *🧠 Caring excessively about others' opinions, particularly those of respected individuals, can be detrimental. Recognizing the insignificance of such opinions in the grand scheme of things can alleviate unnecessary stress.*
54:06 *🔄 Relinquishing control and delegating tasks can be challenging, especially for creatives. While it's rational to want oversight, excessive micromanagement may hinder growth and productivity.*
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I love and follow you both...what a treat to see you sharing your views with each other!
For anyone else who's been seeing Mark's guest become more and more worrisome you aren't alone 💚 I think this is the beginning of Mark becoming someone who is way more intense, way more combative, way less empathetic, and becoming a platform that no longer values hearing peoples experience because he's already made up his mind that they are just whiney or entitled. I hope Im wrong Mark. But fuck dude, your guests, some of the things youve said lately, I hope you don't become another Joe Rogan
Lot of your advice is great.
I wish you can make more stuff for international students in USA, coz life is completely different and more hard for them to find opportunities
Fr 😢
I agree with so much of this except for one thing. Children, babies. Future generations are also a win
two of my favourite content creators in one video!
I thought it was Jennifer Lawrence for a split second...I got hyped ngl 😮💨😮💨
Loved this episode!!! Thank you 😊
Damn.... 29:30 was so on point I needed to take a break.
Hard disagree with some of these points. I switched companies to apply my in-demand skills and a shot at higher pay. Instead I Was stonewalled into never actually being allowed to apply my skills and then having to navigate office politics only to be let go unceremoniously. Now I sit here unemployed with an overdrawn bank account being told to just work harder lol
1:15 That woman's nasal passages are at war
I've been waiting for this collab
Healthy, Wealthy and Wise 😊
Hey Mark , very good video . I can do better editing in your videos which can help you to get more engagement in your videos . Pls lmk what do you think ?
She is so full of herself.
She thinks she’s subtle. But she is far from it.
However, great financial success story.
This is sooooo refreshing. Great episode Mark. 🎉
I just bought your 📚 books...its amezing
Thank you Mark and Codie ❤️🔥💪🏾💯🦋💙
Good stuff. Man, Codie is everywhere. Bookmarked for an upcoming issue of Sunday Money
This episode fascinates me because there are some very interesting ideas and studies being tied too unsubstantiated hot takes. So many points in the conversation feel like they're saying 1+1 therefore 23... There are some pretty big ideological leaps without clear evidence.
I am all about radical ownership and embracing the work required to succeed, but it seems like the recent guest on this podcasts are stopping short of saying "kids these days are too woke and lazy". It's disappointing because I had always viewed Mark as someone who was able to share hard truths like the "disappointment panda" without embracing the monotone, culture of hustler self-help. I regularly work more than 40 hours per week and care about my career success, but this "kids are lazy" take is what is truly lazy.
More like this please! This is awesome! Actual practical advice, and not just wooey gooey spiritualism and self help woodoo without obvious usecases