@@Thebluegodbullet I think he is mentioning the gift of Apollo ability you get in GOW 2018. It allows the blades of chaos to heal Kratos as well as make him stronger and attack faster.
@@Thebluegodbullet I think he is mentioning the gift of Apollo ability you get in GOW 2018. It allows the blades of chaos to heal Kratos as well as make him stronger and attack faster.
Long before time had a name, the First Spinjitzu Master created Ninjago, using four elemental weapons. But when he passed, a dark presence sought out to collect them all: Lord Garmadon. So I, Sensei Wu, his brother, sought out to find four ninja to collect them first.
I was NOT expecting this but i agree with most of it, Kratos is a Goat that shouldn't be trifled with Personally I believe if your lower than the grand priest you get bolod hard, Grand priest and Zeno are pretty high up there and probably could do something if givin time.
It doesn’t help that kratos some really busted hax in both the Norse and Greek games. Kratos could make his spear into a Hakai spear which makes them weak to their own power
@@-Venemic ya mainly cuz of hope and the evils. Apart from that they’re roughly the same as Norse souls are conceptual in nature and there’s dudes like garm who ate literal concepts when he was hungry enough and you can argue that runes are conceptual aswell to a degree
Yeah, no, I like the G.O.D.’s, but I could tell by pure logic that Kratos would give them all an unmeasurable beat down. And even Zeno would probably make little damage to him…💀☠️💀
@@Goji-Cwhy won't you do showa Godzilla vs marvel Godzilla fine forget it you can do a video on how powerful is marvel Godzilla at least do that video
Zeno would erase Kratos 😂 he out scales Zues and every God combined Kratos is not immune from being erased immortality or not Zumazu was immortal and still got erased
Should also factor in Garm's feats. Maybe you could find more with GOW artbooks. And another thing is GOW: Ascension which has statements and lore about the multiple weapons there (I think it's Online has it as well).
@@Agent-57 they are NOT lol, what are you smoking, fenrir (forgot his original name before he becomes tame) he ate the 5th season, and devoured the concept between hunger and full i believe something along them lines that is
There have been some instances of higher dimensional goku,goku shaking hell when Turing ssj3,then doing the same thing in BASE in GT,also in GT he destroying a higher dimensional realm with one blast
Given that Zeno in the goku black arc destroyed only one timeline, and there are multiple zenos, one for each timeline i disagree that Zeno is multiversal, at best he is higher end low multi, for now. But yeah Kratos still washes no concept of difficulty xd
Okay. I agree with everything. But i just have one minor problem with the whole immeasurable speed of Zeno, when Goku went to the future to find Zeno. You said Goku moved in a place with no time and space, when in reality, he never left the ship. It was never shown that Goku actually left the ship.
He did in the manga so I just assumed he did it in the anime but if you don’t like that, during TOP ARC Zeno had trouble seeing dispo and MUI goku is faster than him and beerus is realtive to more than likley faster than goku
That was such an absolutely low range for DBS it's insulting, the lowest minimum you can get Gods of Destruction is High multiversal complex I also love the double standard of using (extremely inconsistent) author statements for Kratos to make him better,But you don't do the same in Dragon Ball
Kratos does solo the verse and thank you for calling out DB Cosmology, it's not very consistent and there are actually a lo of things in DBS that contradict it, while there are times where I question your scaling and results, this one is accurate, and there might not be a chance you do this but it would he amazing if you did Arthur Morgan vs Joel Miller
I love DragonBallZ and I love God Of War and I think in terms of power scaling, I think Kratos over powers the DBZ-verse. Then again, It is not impossible for DBZ characters to reach the level of Kratos.😅
@@davidthebest3443how? Thor pretty much did an infinitely more impressive version of gokus early DBs universe feat by splintering the world tree how does kratos not just mop the floor with DBs?
Wow, I love the downplay of dragon ball as always. You say cracking the tree makes you 5d because it transcends space and time. Well, guess what? The afterlife of db also transcends space and time, making it 5d. While goku and beerus were going to destroy it as collateral damage. While the kai realm is a higher dimension than the afterlife.
Kratos beat multiple beings that transcend time and space meaning that they have irrelevant speed as noted in the novel of kratos vs Thanatos. Also there’s more in depth things you gotta look hard at saying he could be outerversal or boundless although it’s mostly off statements and feats not seen in game.
Transcending time and space would give immeasurable speed Ignoring distance as a whole is irrelevant speed And yeah since the gods are literally the concepts of their godhood they should easily scale into outer
Great video man. But to be honest kratos is bog goku level in terms of ap and power. The universe 7 is a low to mid complex multiversal structure. Infinite zamsu trancended trunks timeline, meaning he trancended space and time to a high degree, the gods of destruction are beyond that level of power. The timelines would range at 6d to 8d. Also you have to remember the super dimensional battle between gogeta and broly, super dimensions means beyond the order of dimensions, heck they broke space, time, and the fabric of reality by causally headbutting and punching each other. Even if you use kratos feat of destroying fear zeus, its not enough. Because high tier dragon ball characters can straight up damage abstracts like zeno destroying infinite zamasu an abstracta of confusion, corruption and ego. So nope saying those high tier dragon ball gods are low to multiversal plus is a serious lowball, not to mention its been stated in guide books that gods of destruction have power that trancends dimensions. Zeno>>grand priest> Angels>>gods of destruction>kratos.
Sorry but no kratos is above bog goku in gow 3 let alone currently plus even if we use infinite zamasu and say he 6d to 8d it would not matter fear zeus is outer due to being a platonic concept and zamasu is only fused with space and time making zamasu a weaker abstract being when compared to fear zeus and kratos beating fear zeus would make kratos outer aswell regardless kratos would stomp zeno and grand priest and all the angels and all god of destructions by pure feats alone lol
@@tanialogan-lewis2032 fear zeus is not outer. That would mean goku at the end of the buu saga is outerversal because he defeated the very embodiment of evil. Infinite zamsasu trancended space and time, making him an abstract. Incase you did not know dragon ball characters especially with ki have conceptional attacks
@@tanialogan-lewis2032 zamasu is a more powerful abstract than fear zeus, he took over an entire timeline. The only feat fear zeus has is just figting and nearly killing kratos
@@urm0m69 actually kratos and doomslayer are equal in stats unless you believe in hyper to outer slayer asura on the other hand I don’t know much about
There was a comparison that I believe was made by toriyama that essentially implied that the space between Goku and beerus was smaller than the space between beerus and whis, and if between SSG to MUI Goku he is still not as strong as beerus then your scaling is off by a longshot bro, I'm just saying, because that would put xeno in a much higher realm than 6d, although Seth the programmer did a video on something like this but in regards to the scaling between just the dragon ball characters
Ok there are some major issues with your scaling: 1. Your x beats y and y beats w so x beats w fallacy. Not always. If that was the case, remember that Thor literally killed Kratos with low effort in Ragnarok before bringing him back by restarting his heart. So does that mean that Thor is low multiversal? No. Thor has time breaking feats but no multiversal feats. In fact, most GOW characters have at most continental level power. Basically, what you did is a paradox that in Star Wars was observed by Bane. If 3 Sith apprentices teamed up, they could kill a powerful Sith master, but then fight each other, it weakens the whole as one alone wasn’t enough to stop bigger bad. Who’s stronger? The one surviving of the 3 or the master? Simple, the master. To put this into perspective: Kronos was too powerful for Zeus to kill on his own. So he had to team up with Hades and Poseidon to do so. If he could, there was no reason to make Kronos vomit his siblings up, why not just kill him? Simple he wasn’t strong enough. Not yet. So he teams up. His team together was stronger than the one. Zeus was weaker than Kronos. Kronos however has gotten weaker as he has rotted in Tartarus. So that’s how Kratos could do it in gow 3.
10:24 Cronos you idjit he’s stated to have been the concept of time directly time itself came into being the instance Cronos did just upscale off of that!
@@rexyjp1237 unless SpongeBob has some official multiversal shenanigans or anything higher, it realistically should go to Goku. Toon force and reducing a universe to nothing doesn’t mean he’s inherently stronger. But I don’t scale toon force characters, so I’m not just gonna confidently say Goku wins
@@DirtyDev he closed realm tears that were threatening to destroy Niflheim and helheim was actively being destroyed from his fight with garm. That’s 2 onscreen universal feats for kratos but they don’t have to be on screen just because you want them to be.
Personally, I don't think Beerus is even low-multiversal, for two reasons; 1= the shockwaves that were generated from Goku and Beerus's clash were stated to be getting stronger the further away they got from their starting point. 2= it was stated that Goku and Beerus would be killed along with everyone else.
Well, tbf that's only for the Anime. In the Manga, the shockwaves were never discussed, they were just straight up gonna destroy everything. And they've gotten stronger since
Can you please do a fight between Godzilla (heisei era) vs Superman because I see dc fans absolutely slandering ma boi, calling him a fat lizard, and saying he’s only powerful because he’s big.
Heisei godzilla is strong, but comic book superman is so ridiculously OP that heisei would never be able to stand a chance even in burning form. Even weaker versions of Superman are just too much for him to handle.
Je ne sais pas si tu as dit que Kratos et tout les ennemis qu'il a combattut, sont au-dessus de TOUT CONCEPTS. C'est dit par Cory Barlog (celui qui a crée God of War) lui-même.
the grand kais planet alone scales to high multi because it is a db universe sized planet and we know dbz galaxy's hold near infinite stars and the dbz universe is so vast it is roughly 99.8% empty space so filling it with stone it would make it 500x universal without mentioning the metal from the sword a multi star to low galaxy lvl goku could barely pick up
Kratos can not beat EVERY DBS character considered a god cause he just would be able to last enough to do so. Before even thinking about the Gods of Destructions or the Angels. He would have to fight by himself through eighteen universes(the six Zeno erased in anger should count) each with their own sets of Kamis, Kais, Grand Kais, and Supreme Kais. Basically Kratos would have repeat what he did to the Greek Gods (every single Greek God that ever exist not just the main ones) eighteen times with just one life. If Zeno is involved Kratos could lose before he is even able to face anyone. Zeno was shown erasing universes without even being there himself. All Zeno has to do is just erase the God of War verse and Kratos vanishes with it.
This is pretty flawed scaling and can easily be debunked since if we are using Greek Kratos this shouldn’t really be a discussion let alone the Norse saga of Kratos, anyways not a bad vid .
I like how low u scale characters also Jiren is stated to have power beyond time aswell as the grand priest created space and time in the world of void
Void itself is a seperate space, like a hyperbolic time chamber devoid of space, but you got urunus in gow mythology who created everything and nothing together, just get washed by Kronos later Kronos being the creator of time the concept of time never existed before Kronos, we all know what happened to him
Inaccessible speed isn’t a thing anymore on Versus Battle Wiki. The only two higher speed tier metas there now are Infinite & Immeasurable Also saying Kratos is slower than all the Destroyers & that his scaling isn’t “concrete” is fuckin wild
Exactly when he’s on multiple occasions broken dimensional and temporal barriers off straight strength and speed alone which could be easily immeasurable
Use old kratos cause if some one from dragon ball killed his second kid it’s over simple as that it doesn’t matter how many times he gets killed bros got the hope needed to murder anything that took away a peace of his hope Just saying if dragon ball wins everything literally just cause they yelled enough and got mad enough how kratos doesn’t meet the same criteria I’ll never understand
I’m sorry but I’m going to have stop you at the part where you said Norse Kratos is stronger than Greek Kratos. Norse Kratos while having some brutal moments never killed the entire Norse pantheon he only killed modi magi and heimdall but Greek Kratos outright killed the entire Greek pantheon so obviously Greek Kratos is way stronger then Norse Kratos ever would be and on top of that Greek Kratos had every weapon imaginable and flavour of power that you could imagine Norse Kratos has none of those powers so Greek Kratos would easily defeat Norse Kratos no question
You forget that by erasing a universe the other timelines get erased too. You also forget that by "all of existence" they're referring to the timeline since zeno not only doesn't transcend timelines, but also there is 1 zeno per timeline. You're essentially wanking the midball characters.
Bro WTF. You have shown transcending dimensions and infinite galaxies containing infinite stars and you say low multiversal.🤣🤣 You even showed the Japanese word (超次元) from Daizenshuu 4 Which means beyond/transcending the concept of dimensions. bro You made the Dragon Ball outerversal🤣🤣. Which is basically the correct scale.
I agree with Kratos scaling. But I disagree with GoDs. Goku casually should scale to outerversal. The afterlife transcends the concepts of space and time, and dimensionality as a whole. Not just simply transcending space time. Post BOG base Goku has outerversal AP, and the God's would scale higher. Also the God's of destruction are not all relative. Beerus and Quitela(the mouse) being the most relative of the 2. Belmod was pretending to be done for in the exhibition between God's. Goku and Vegeta alone have been in the realm of the God's of destruction since the end of the black arc. Some of these God's get surpassed casually in the TOP, and beerus even currently after Broly, Moro arc, Granolah arc, and the Super Hero Arc, and beerus is still the strongest. Me personally id scale Beerus at outerversal, with the angels at high outerversal with immeasurable speed.
It's a hard disagree for me The feats are extremely inflated in this video. The primordials deaths caused the universe to be created by fighting one another, the titans where created and chilled on Earth until Kronos out of fear started eating his kids, Zeus killed him, the titanomachy happened and that's that. We're talking sub oozaru feats especially in the gow lore where Titans are portrayed as sluggish Giants not actual titans which in Greek myth are the same size as Olympians and have their own elements and powers. Kratos biggest feat by far was able to kill Kronos which in the gow lore is also not immortal unconditionally similar to the Olympians in the actual mythos. Kratos wouldn't get past saiyan saga Vegeta who is capable of erasing entire planets with the tinniest bit of effort let alone. Even when planets are not considered the speed of Hermes has been shown to be something fast but nowhere near the feats of the original early dragon ball budokai tournament where kid Goku could move faster than human perception and reflexes of Earths most well trained martial artists infront of an actual crowd of hundreds of people. Raditz moved faster than adult Goku (who is on a whole other level of speed, strenght and resilience form his past self) could even percieve and Raditz was on saibaman level. Kratos had to sacrifice and use every tool available to beat Zeus in the second game, was severely overwhelmed, won only by cheapshotting Zeus after making him drop his guard by faking a surrender, then on the next game Kratos got one shot in the beggining and in the very end, with the power of hope and every single weapon and power from the other Olympian Gods just barely managed to win all bloody and hurt. Zeus was about Piccolo level in og dragon ball, if you want to over inflate it Nappa level without the insane speed of the characters of db.
I disagree with 5D. "Transcending time and space" is a vague statement which absolutely does not necessarily mean 5D as "transcend" often has meanings such as going beyond/lutside of something (such as transcending the earth's atmosphere, and yes, a real person has actually used this term in that context). Dragon Ball has "transcending" statements as well yet you (rightfully) put it at 4D. The same should apply to God of War.
Kratos really just preformed a beatdown in this scaling
Bro Valhalla Kratos is low hyper wdym
@@hamburger3995 How?
GREAT GOJI CHRONIC KRATOS VS DRAGON BALL SUPER GOD'S GOD OF WAR VS DRAGON BALL SUPER VIDEO,
hercule wins via present 4 u 😉
@@hamburger3995 source?
The thing is my guy didn't even scale the norse comology properly because he know it's a overkill 😂
the blades of chaos also drains life energy making kratos stronger faster and healing him and reaplenshing his staima
That's a lot of information wow Kratos is Powerful
Kratos already has a healing factor so that just makes it overkill
I didnt know this. where was this stated
@@Thebluegodbullet I think he is mentioning the gift of Apollo ability you get in GOW 2018. It allows the blades of chaos to heal Kratos as well as make him stronger and attack faster.
@@Thebluegodbullet I think he is mentioning the gift of Apollo ability you get in GOW 2018. It allows the blades of chaos to heal Kratos as well as make him stronger and attack faster.
Long before time had a name, the First Spinjitzu Master created Ninjago, using four elemental weapons. But when he passed, a dark presence sought out to collect them all: Lord Garmadon. So I, Sensei Wu, his brother, sought out to find four ninja to collect them first.
I remember watching Ninjago when in I was a wee lad and that shit was fire. Anyone who didn't watch that missed out fr
@@astreusastresus198 I missed out 😭😭😭
Master Wu solos fiction idc what people say, he's HIM 🗿
Man I rewatch it and it was awesome goofy a bit but awesome
I was NOT expecting this but i agree with most of it, Kratos is a Goat that shouldn't be trifled with
Personally I believe if your lower than the grand priest you get bolod hard, Grand priest and Zeno are pretty high up there and probably could do something if givin time.
Can't wait to see people argue over this........
It doesn’t help that kratos some really busted hax in both the Norse and Greek games. Kratos could make his spear into a Hakai spear which makes them weak to their own power
Honestly I think Norse is a better match because he’s got less hax but man Greek Kratos has goofy hax
@@ItsButterBean1020 idk. Kratos got some crazy new hax in Ragnarok. The spear thing I mentioned being one of them
@@jhevgainz2307Kratos does have some great hax in norse yeah. Greek kratos had more conceptual stuff tho
@@-Venemic ya mainly cuz of hope and the evils. Apart from that they’re roughly the same as Norse souls are conceptual in nature and there’s dudes like garm who ate literal concepts when he was hungry enough and you can argue that runes are conceptual aswell to a degree
The GoD's are immune to the Hakai.
Yeah, no, I like the G.O.D.’s, but I could tell by pure logic that Kratos would give them all an unmeasurable beat down. And even Zeno would probably make little damage to him…💀☠️💀
Lmao
@@Goji-Cwhy won't you do showa Godzilla vs marvel Godzilla fine forget it you can do a video on how powerful is marvel Godzilla at least do that video
Zeno would erase Kratos 😂 he out scales Zues and every God combined Kratos is not immune from being erased immortality or not Zumazu was immortal and still got erased
@@Goji-CHow would Dante from Devil May Cry do against the Demons from Xenoverse.
@@TreWilliams-bb-incKratos would Negg Zeno and he is immune to Erasing stuff 💀
Imagine a beerus and champa fusion with the ear rings.
I am not Beerus nor Champa I am Beercha!!
@@SquishTheCardMaster lol
Super lazy cat.
Should also factor in Garm's feats.
Maybe you could find more with GOW artbooks.
And another thing is GOW: Ascension which has statements and lore about the multiple weapons there (I think it's Online has it as well).
Garms feats are basically Buu saga tier
@@Agent-57 Uh what? He ate a literal concept lmao
So Chainsaw man level then. @@astreusastresus198
@@Agent-57 they are NOT lol, what are you smoking, fenrir (forgot his original name before he becomes tame) he ate the 5th season, and devoured the concept between hunger and full i believe something along them lines that is
Idk why but for 14 minutes I COULD NOT find this video for no reasons it was so annoying bro I finally found it 🗿
There have been some instances of higher dimensional goku,goku shaking hell when Turing ssj3,then doing the same thing in BASE in GT,also in GT he destroying a higher dimensional realm with one blast
Yeah, but that's a seperate continuity to DBS
Never stated that Sugoroku space is a higher dimensional realm
I don't know what this man says half the time but I follow it
Given that Zeno in the goku black arc destroyed only one timeline, and there are multiple zenos, one for each timeline i disagree that Zeno is multiversal, at best he is higher end low multi, for now. But yeah Kratos still washes no concept of difficulty xd
Being exist in one timeline doesnt means your bound by timeline.Zeno exist even after he destroyed timeline.
@@om9959 that doesn't make him above every timeline such as a multiverse being is, only one
But doesnt krstos also exist in every timeline?
but there's literally multiple Kratos in every timeline, similar to when he traveled back in time in GOW2, he saw Zeus stabbing himself.
@iBeatBoxz8 kratos then cut off his thread of fate meaning his unbounded by fate and time all together
Okay. I agree with everything. But i just have one minor problem with the whole immeasurable speed of Zeno, when Goku went to the future to find Zeno. You said Goku moved in a place with no time and space, when in reality, he never left the ship. It was never shown that Goku actually left the ship.
He did in the manga so I just assumed he did it in the anime but if you don’t like that, during TOP ARC Zeno had trouble seeing dispo and MUI goku is faster than him and beerus is realtive to more than likley faster than goku
@@Goji-Cgoku is at max inaccessible speed he cant be immeasurable since he is bounded by time
@@VagNats-uo5zwGoku has multiple incommensurable Feats, inaccessible is a low range for Goku
@@yeikelamores6085 tell me one
@@yeikelamores6085like?
That was such an absolutely low range for DBS it's insulting, the lowest minimum you can get Gods of Destruction is High multiversal complex I also love the double standard of using (extremely inconsistent) author statements for Kratos to make him better,But you don't do the same in Dragon Ball
Bro glazing on kratos soo much
Care to tell us how?
Kratos does solo the verse and thank you for calling out DB Cosmology, it's not very consistent and there are actually a lo of things in DBS that contradict it, while there are times where I question your scaling and results, this one is accurate, and there might not be a chance you do this but it would he amazing if you did Arthur Morgan vs Joel Miller
I was thinking Arthur Morgan vs Trevor philips just cause I feel it's a better fight
Goku and the gods are complex multi imo since the multiverse cosmology should be above 10d to 12d
Kratos would win so yeah I agree, great analysis.
I love DragonBallZ and I love God Of War and I think in terms of power scaling, I think Kratos over powers the DBZ-verse. Then again, It is not impossible for DBZ characters to reach the level of Kratos.😅
kratos maybe can get dragon ball z but the super characters are cooking him
@@davidthebest3443how? Thor pretty much did an infinitely more impressive version of gokus early DBs universe feat by splintering the world tree how does kratos not just mop the floor with DBs?
Wow, I love the downplay of dragon ball as always. You say cracking the tree makes you 5d because it transcends space and time. Well, guess what? The afterlife of db also transcends space and time, making it 5d. While goku and beerus were going to destroy it as collateral damage. While the kai realm is a higher dimension than the afterlife.
Hey, Goji - Chronic, could you and Godzilla King Of The Monsters do an analysis on the JWD Giganotosaurus Vs Indominus Rex fight?
Kratos beat multiple beings that transcend time and space meaning that they have irrelevant speed as noted in the novel of kratos vs Thanatos. Also there’s more in depth things you gotta look hard at saying he could be outerversal or boundless although it’s mostly off statements and feats not seen in game.
Transcending time and space would give immeasurable speed
Ignoring distance as a whole is irrelevant speed
And yeah since the gods are literally the concepts of their godhood they should easily scale into outer
Love ur content bro
Great video bro
Why I have a weird feeling that someone gonna brings up SDBH version of them?
do doom slayer next or dracula from lords of shadow2.
Doomgayer dies to a gentle wind
All the gods in the god of war universe coexist on earth while the gods in dbs each own a universe,that in it self should end this debate
No all pantheons (multiverse) coexist, each of them being seperately infinite
Gow earth is composed of many infinite realms
YES even if they're at the same earth they are higher dimensions interdimensional realities.
Cratos vs Godzilla you saw that one coming
Being fair, there is some author statements for outerversal Dbz.
Great video man. But to be honest kratos is bog goku level in terms of ap and power. The universe 7 is a low to mid complex multiversal structure.
Infinite zamsu trancended trunks timeline, meaning he trancended space and time to a high degree, the gods of destruction are beyond that level of power. The timelines would range at 6d to 8d.
Also you have to remember the super dimensional battle between gogeta and broly, super dimensions means beyond the order of dimensions, heck they broke space, time, and the fabric of reality by causally headbutting and punching each other.
Even if you use kratos feat of destroying fear zeus, its not enough. Because high tier dragon ball characters can straight up damage abstracts like zeno destroying infinite zamasu an abstracta of confusion, corruption and ego. So nope saying those high tier dragon ball gods are low to multiversal plus is a serious lowball, not to mention its been stated in guide books that gods of destruction have power that trancends dimensions.
Zeno>>grand priest> Angels>>gods of destruction>kratos.
Sorry but no kratos is above bog goku in gow 3 let alone currently plus even if we use infinite zamasu and say he 6d to 8d it would not matter fear zeus is outer due to being a platonic concept and zamasu is only fused with space and time making zamasu a weaker abstract being when compared to fear zeus and kratos beating fear zeus would make kratos outer aswell regardless kratos would stomp zeno and grand priest and all the angels and all god of destructions by pure feats alone lol
@@tanialogan-lewis2032 fear zeus is not outer. That would mean goku at the end of the buu saga is outerversal because he defeated the very embodiment of evil. Infinite zamsasu trancended space and time, making him an abstract. Incase you did not know dragon ball characters especially with ki have conceptional attacks
@@tanialogan-lewis2032 kratos is low multiversal to multiversal in god of war 3 while god goku in bog is low complex or 5d at bare minimum
@@tanialogan-lewis2032 zamasu is a more powerful abstract than fear zeus, he took over an entire timeline. The only feat fear zeus has is just figting and nearly killing kratos
@uzookafor8721 zamasu is not more powerful fear zeus is becuz he fused with a platonic concept that's stronger then anything in dbs
I'd like to see Kratos vs Sonic ngl
That'd be a dope fight
I prefer doomslayer and asura as opponents for kratos
@@kelby1810 yeah but those are fodder to Kratos, Sonic isn't
@@urm0m69 actually kratos and doomslayer are equal in stats unless you believe in hyper to outer slayer asura on the other hand I don’t know much about
@@kelby1810 Kratos transcends platonic comcepts, Doom Slayer only transcends dimensionality. Asura is the most fodder of these 3 tho
There was a comparison that I believe was made by toriyama that essentially implied that the space between Goku and beerus was smaller than the space between beerus and whis, and if between SSG to MUI Goku he is still not as strong as beerus then your scaling is off by a longshot bro, I'm just saying, because that would put xeno in a much higher realm than 6d, although Seth the programmer did a video on something like this but in regards to the scaling between just the dragon ball characters
That was from the BOG movie if i remember
JE CROIS que dans God of War 1 ou 2, c'est dit que Kratos est aussi au-dessus des lois de la physique.
Ok there are some major issues with your scaling:
1. Your x beats y and y beats w so x beats w fallacy. Not always. If that was the case, remember that Thor literally killed Kratos with low effort in Ragnarok before bringing him back by restarting his heart. So does that mean that Thor is low multiversal? No. Thor has time breaking feats but no multiversal feats. In fact, most GOW characters have at most continental level power.
Basically, what you did is a paradox that in Star Wars was observed by Bane. If 3 Sith apprentices teamed up, they could kill a powerful Sith master, but then fight each other, it weakens the whole as one alone wasn’t enough to stop bigger bad. Who’s stronger? The one surviving of the 3 or the master? Simple, the master.
To put this into perspective:
Kronos was too powerful for Zeus to kill on his own. So he had to team up with Hades and Poseidon to do so. If he could, there was no reason to make Kronos vomit his siblings up, why not just kill him? Simple he wasn’t strong enough. Not yet. So he teams up. His team together was stronger than the one. Zeus was weaker than Kronos. Kronos however has gotten weaker as he has rotted in Tartarus. So that’s how Kratos could do it in gow 3.
It’d be sick to see Kratos vs Doomslayer
It wouldn't doomgayer dies instantly as kratos scales to concepts which puts him at outerversal
CallMeArj's Dragon Ball UV is just a what if Kratos was in DB
💀 ain't no way
I have never thought about it like that but it really is
I will never understand scalers lmao
Dante and bayanetta vs the gods of destruction and angels
Can you make a video on asura's wrath vs dragon Ball super Manga Goku
10:24 Cronos you idjit he’s stated to have been the concept of time directly time itself came into being the instance Cronos did just upscale off of that!
Good video.
who do you think would win in a fight between spongebob and goku?
That 30 billion SpongeBob will clutch out. Trust me
@@DaBossMn im talking about a 1v1.
30 billion spongebob are overkill.
Goku. SpongeBob cant go on land or deal with heat without turning into a regular ass sponge, goku can go underwater for at least 30 seconds
@@rexyjp1237 unless SpongeBob has some official multiversal shenanigans or anything higher, it realistically should go to Goku. Toon force and reducing a universe to nothing doesn’t mean he’s inherently stronger. But I don’t scale toon force characters, so I’m not just gonna confidently say Goku wins
@@Bengt2509 in sponge out of water spongebob got the ability to breathe on land.
Damn, I had no idea kratos was that strong.
He’s not canonically.
@@DirtyDevhe is tho
@@jhevgainz2307 show me kratos demonstrating universal power on screen.
@@DirtyDev he closed realm tears that were threatening to destroy Niflheim and helheim was actively being destroyed from his fight with garm. That’s 2 onscreen universal feats for kratos but they don’t have to be on screen just because you want them to be.
@@jhevgainz2307 not a universal feat
Personally, I don't think Beerus is even low-multiversal, for two reasons;
1= the shockwaves that were generated from Goku and Beerus's clash were stated to be getting stronger the further away they got from their starting point.
2= it was stated that Goku and Beerus would be killed along with everyone else.
They are only planetary
???
@@iphone5s659 seek help
Well, tbf that's only for the Anime. In the Manga, the shockwaves were never discussed, they were just straight up gonna destroy everything. And they've gotten stronger since
@BigMacBurgr it's just shockwave. There's nothing that special
Goku himself full power scales Complex Multiversal, Multiversal is just a straight lowball and Gokus Highball is Hyperversal
No proof
@@Dash-iv8rpguidebooks, data book's,broly movie,broly novel, koyama's statements
You should do ccc Gilgamesh vs cc goku
Can you please do a fight between Godzilla (heisei era) vs Superman because I see dc fans absolutely slandering ma boi, calling him a fat lizard, and saying he’s only powerful because he’s big.
Heisei godzilla is strong, but comic book superman is so ridiculously OP that heisei would never be able to stand a chance even in burning form. Even weaker versions of Superman are just too much for him to handle.
@@HydragonofDeath yeah but they are comparing them to movie Superman
@@NA-zz4ug Are they comparing Synder superman to Heisei godzilla?
@@HydragonofDeath No they’re putting him against monster even though he like maybe continental it feels unfair
What if kratos was dropped into the holy grail war from the fate series
Yes I always knew kratos can destroy the dbs verse
lets go w for kratos
Je ne sais pas si tu as dit que Kratos et tout les ennemis qu'il a combattut, sont au-dessus de TOUT CONCEPTS. C'est dit par Cory Barlog (celui qui a crée God of War) lui-même.
the grand kais planet alone scales to high multi because it is a db universe sized planet and we know dbz galaxy's hold near infinite stars and the dbz universe is so vast it is roughly 99.8% empty space so filling it with stone it would make it 500x universal without mentioning the metal from the sword a multi star to low galaxy lvl goku could barely pick up
Ok great vid! but can he beat my boy dante hahah
HE can though but dante beats goku imo
Only one statement made on namek in db dizenshu that frieza 2nd form strength belongs to 5 dimensional
Oma Zi-o Vs MUI Goku and anyone else you wanna throw at him. Oma Zi-o might just be able to solo fiction.
Hey Goji, have you considered scaling cartoons like Gravity Falls, The Owl House or Star V.S The Forces Of Evil?
Rip akira toryima
Gone but not forgotten
Kratos can not beat EVERY DBS character considered a god cause he just would be able to last enough to do so. Before even thinking about the Gods of Destructions or the Angels. He would have to fight by himself through eighteen universes(the six Zeno erased in anger should count) each with their own sets of Kamis, Kais, Grand Kais, and Supreme Kais. Basically Kratos would have repeat what he did to the Greek Gods (every single Greek God that ever exist not just the main ones) eighteen times with just one life.
If Zeno is involved Kratos could lose before he is even able to face anyone. Zeno was shown erasing universes without even being there himself. All Zeno has to do is just erase the God of War verse and Kratos vanishes with it.
When someone who isn't a Kratos 🥩 rider enters the chat:
thank god you’re here
cap zeno is universel
@@dragonlord790 you are dumb, Zeno is Omniversal, THAT'S WHY HE IS CALLED THE "Omni-King", not the "Uni-King", not the "Multi-King"
@@dragonlord790 if Zeno is universal, the Kratos is only mountain level with your logic
7:29 Naw that’s super disrespectful as you’re not counting the other statements
This is pretty flawed scaling and can easily be debunked since if we are using Greek Kratos this shouldn’t really be a discussion let alone the Norse saga of Kratos, anyways not a bad vid .
And i can hear every dragon ball fanboy who think dragon ball solo everything say your high
What tier would goku be?
Yo dude what is the most powerful godzilla variant ever?
Godzilla in Hell,He scales to outer
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Peak 👍👍
If Spartan rage is infinite...then definitely kratos would solo entire DBS ...source chat gpt
Cratos vs doom guy
Doomgayer dies instantly
I like how low u scale characters also Jiren is stated to have power beyond time aswell as the grand priest created space and time in the world of void
Void itself is a seperate space, like a hyperbolic time chamber devoid of space, but you got urunus in gow mythology who created everything and nothing together, just get washed by Kronos later Kronos being the creator of time the concept of time never existed before Kronos, we all know what happened to him
Yes, yes he can
Inaccessible speed isn’t a thing anymore on Versus Battle Wiki. The only two higher speed tier metas there now are Infinite & Immeasurable
Also saying Kratos is slower than all the Destroyers & that his scaling isn’t “concrete” is fuckin wild
Exactly when he’s on multiple occasions broken dimensional and temporal barriers off straight strength and speed alone which could be easily immeasurable
That’s not even going with Cronos
Woah a wiki said something? That must make it the only valid source of information woah
Great video🔥🔥
Short answer no hes a goku victom
Umm what planets have we seen kratos destroy using hus bare hands?
Could Medaka Kurokami solo dragon ball
Yeah and with ez
Yea unless it’s Heroes with very crazy higher dimensional hax resistance.
No dimensionality > hax everyone in dragon ball scales higher and negates her hax
@@gregkareem9824 I don't think they're immune, resistance I can believe, some like God and Angel are immune, but eh
We can run the debate
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Do Heisei Godzilla vs Kratos next🗣️
Kratos uses he's Greek! He wins
Because the jiren statment and zamasu taking over a timeline so 4d for gods
dark souls scale
Use old kratos cause if some one from dragon ball killed his second kid it’s over simple as that it doesn’t matter how many times he gets killed bros got the hope needed to murder anything that took away a peace of his hope
Just saying if dragon ball wins everything literally just cause they yelled enough and got mad enough how kratos doesn’t meet the same criteria I’ll never understand
yall so bias towards kratos its insane😭 he gets crushed by beerus alone💀
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Kratos was canonically beat by a guy with a shovel.
And Goku got hurt by a bullet
Cratos vs vigeto god killer
Personally, I’d say that the DB macrocosm scaling should be 5D, but that doesn’t really make a difference to what Kratos is capable of
I’m sorry but I’m going to have stop you at the part where you said Norse Kratos is stronger than Greek Kratos. Norse Kratos while having some brutal moments never killed the entire Norse pantheon he only killed modi magi and heimdall but Greek Kratos outright killed the entire Greek pantheon so obviously Greek Kratos is way stronger then Norse Kratos ever would be and on top of that Greek Kratos had every weapon imaginable and flavour of power that you could imagine Norse Kratos has none of those powers so Greek Kratos would easily defeat Norse Kratos no question
Long story short: Hell no
kratos can defeat everyone except for zeno he will delete kratos
Krstos has resistance to existence erase
@@VagNats-uo5zwThat doesn't matter to Xeno
Kratos erase zeno from existence
@@BaustisaRuiz jajajaja no
@yeikelamores6085 yes lmfao zeno is lower dimensional
yeah beeruse is not multiversal. he scale higher.
You forget that by erasing a universe the other timelines get erased too. You also forget that by "all of existence" they're referring to the timeline since zeno not only doesn't transcend timelines, but also there is 1 zeno per timeline. You're essentially wanking the midball characters.
Poseidon solos the verse👍😈
The answer is no
Bro WTF.
You have shown transcending dimensions and infinite galaxies containing infinite stars and you say low multiversal.🤣🤣
You even showed the Japanese word (超次元) from Daizenshuu 4 Which means beyond/transcending the concept of dimensions.
bro You made the Dragon Ball outerversal🤣🤣.
Which is basically the correct scale.
Dragon ball caps at 5D
You Goku wankers need to chill
I agree with Kratos scaling. But I disagree with GoDs.
Goku casually should scale to outerversal. The afterlife transcends the concepts of space and time, and dimensionality as a whole. Not just simply transcending space time.
Post BOG base Goku has outerversal AP, and the God's would scale higher.
Also the God's of destruction are not all relative. Beerus and Quitela(the mouse) being the most relative of the 2. Belmod was pretending to be done for in the exhibition between God's.
Goku and Vegeta alone have been in the realm of the God's of destruction since the end of the black arc.
Some of these God's get surpassed casually in the TOP, and beerus even currently after Broly, Moro arc, Granolah arc, and the Super Hero Arc, and beerus is still the strongest.
Me personally id scale Beerus at outerversal, with the angels at high outerversal with immeasurable speed.
It's a hard disagree for me
The feats are extremely inflated in this video. The primordials deaths caused the universe to be created by fighting one another, the titans where created and chilled on Earth until Kronos out of fear started eating his kids, Zeus killed him, the titanomachy happened and that's that. We're talking sub oozaru feats especially in the gow lore where Titans are portrayed as sluggish Giants not actual titans which in Greek myth are the same size as Olympians and have their own elements and powers.
Kratos biggest feat by far was able to kill Kronos which in the gow lore is also not immortal unconditionally similar to the Olympians in the actual mythos.
Kratos wouldn't get past saiyan saga Vegeta who is capable of erasing entire planets with the tinniest bit of effort let alone. Even when planets are not considered the speed of Hermes has been shown to be something fast but nowhere near the feats of the original early dragon ball budokai tournament where kid Goku could move faster than human perception and reflexes of Earths most well trained martial artists infront of an actual crowd of hundreds of people. Raditz moved faster than adult Goku (who is on a whole other level of speed, strenght and resilience form his past self) could even percieve and Raditz was on saibaman level.
Kratos had to sacrifice and use every tool available to beat Zeus in the second game, was severely overwhelmed, won only by cheapshotting Zeus after making him drop his guard by faking a surrender, then on the next game Kratos got one shot in the beggining and in the very end, with the power of hope and every single weapon and power from the other Olympian Gods just barely managed to win all bloody and hurt. Zeus was about Piccolo level in og dragon ball, if you want to over inflate it Nappa level without the insane speed of the characters of db.
you literally brought up so many feats before for dbz that arent even brought up here 😭😭
legit why your so unreliable as a debater
Kratos would ultimately lose, but he will put a dent in the hierarchy of a dragon ball super
Also, seeing these battles. Animated would be amazing.
I disagree with 5D. "Transcending time and space" is a vague statement which absolutely does not necessarily mean 5D as "transcend" often has meanings such as going beyond/lutside of something (such as transcending the earth's atmosphere, and yes, a real person has actually used this term in that context). Dragon Ball has "transcending" statements as well yet you (rightfully) put it at 4D. The same should apply to God of War.
yo kratos solos everyone there honestly
Xeno goku vs kratos