Basically; Kratos is THEORETICALLY stronger. Asura is SHOWN to be stronger. Asura has shown his feats, I want to see Kratos bat away stars and planets being thrown at him, tank kicks and punches from the creator of all existence and survive being pushed through a planet…
it's sad people seriously can't take a loss to one of their favorite video game characters. Nobody fucking cares if you like the character and what is "shown". The entire point is to scale, if you just base stuff off what is only visible it literally just ruins the whole point. Take a single fucking loss in yall's pathetic lives and stop being such big pussies about it.
@@KaylaIsaiah bro its this exact type of scaling i absolutely hate. same with the whole 9 realms thing even tho it only weighed 1.7mil tons which is not a lot for these characters.
This is nice, but Deus is not Asuras father. Also a lot of people believe that Kratos would win in this match, but I think in terms of being the angriest character Asura wins. Even if it took years he still carried that wrath within him, and went through hell and back to save his daughter and take revenge on the dieties for killing him and Durga. He still did it in spite of it all and still cared about the people around him. Kratos on the other hand..yeah
Technically asura is only angrier because of his abilities to get infinitely angrier like the hulk but even more enraging, kratos has a lot more to be angry about in GOW 1 through 3 since he was constantly having nightmares of the people he killed including his wife and daughter while constantly getting betrayed by both Ares, Zeus, Helios and even Athena.
@johnsantos507 goji compared Deus to zeus so I assumed he thought Deus was asuras father. I know asura is a father I've played the game multiple times unlike the powerscalers
@Spider-fan2038-js1iq Asura is wrath incarnate he was chosen to be and his anger shook the heavens literally. Asura was still haunted by his past we see it throughout the game, plus it's not fair to compare an entire trilogy to one game and a DLC.
@Spider-fan2038-js1iq also it isn't about a lot to be more angry about. it's just about how angry Asura was throughout the game. Kratos was angry, but he wasnt using his anger itself to slay his enemies and gods like Asura was. Asura was straight hands. He was a general who wanted a world where his family could live a normal life and that monsters weren't destroying countries running around and threatening the world. All of that crumbled in front of him when the emperor was killed, and everyone betrayed and framed him and called him a demon.
Asura defeated his version of Buddha in an event horizon Quote Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality. Asura ignores dimensionality being the only being here to defeat an omnipotent being
Nah, this fight is actually much closer than you think. Watch some other Kratos vs Asura videos and stop listening to Goji Chronic. He's not a reliable scaler
Kratos also heavily implies at least some Greek Gods were more impressive than Heimdall, at least... so even more evidence Greek Kratos should be at least somewhat relative to Norse Kratos.
@shorelinefishing9213 When Mimir said he never saw anyone lay a hand on Heimdall, including Thor. Though Heimdall never planned on fighting Thor in a serious manner, while Thor looked like he was going to at the very least butcher him like he did with Modi. I don't think Thor could win the fight, but he wouldn't lose either. If Heimdall's focus was trying to kill Thor blow for blow instead of evading him and outlasting him, then Heimdall would lose badly, but he may just Outlast Thor if that was his objective. At least we can agree, Heimdall is definitely much weaker than Thor.
the Norse Pantheon are nowhere close to being as powerful as the Greeks let alone the Nordic magic not being as powerful as the Greek's magic but the Norse Pantheon in GoW are still able to transcend concepts such as Space, time and dimensionality through the World Tree feats such as the Valkyries being able to travel through each realm which makes them equated to 'Irrelevant Speeds' since each realms themselves are their own universes with their own different sets of laws.
Deathbattle is doing this as the first of DB 25. Now, the only thing I can say is that the results will probably be based on how DB interprets their biggest feats (which necessarily doesn't mean they'll be considered correct to everyone). You see, the biggest thing Asura has is killing Chakravatrin while Kratos defeated Thor while holding back. For Asura, some people considering the Chakravatrin feat universal because they consider Chakravatrin the creator of the universe. However, it has also been said that a developer said that Chakravatrin only created mantra, and not their universe. But atm, we could probably scale Asura at least universal. For Kratos, it gets more tricky. When he and Thor fought in Ragnarok, their fight shook up the entirety of all of Yggdrassil and its realms. Now the issue is how does all of this scale. Are the realms part of one single world (Planetary), the collective universe (universe), or they all different universes of their own (Miultiversal)? Because if we highball both Asura and Kratos, that means Kratos greatly overpowers Asura by a huge deal. (And don't forget, Kratos didn't want to kill Thor and held back) Regardless of the outcome, I don't think the Kratos vs Asura DB can ever be settled.
Tbh Sun Wukong should probably be beating them all. I can't say that for certain since Dante scaling continues to elude me (always lost in outerversal claims) but current mythology Sun Wukong is clapping. All the hax plus the scaling to boot. You couldn't even possibly kill mythos Sun Wukong.
@@TechTheFeck Correct. Doomguy is at least low multiversal in power likely closer to Multiversal. Arguments for 5D are there, but not as concrete as Kratos.
The DLC is actually locked behind the main game meaning it was always there and was supposed to be/is the actual final ending. With that out of the way. Asura's feats are more consistent compared to Kratos's... nowhere in God of War is Kratos relatively as fast or faster than Asura whether if its through gameplay or cutscenes. Statements usually holds no ground. Chakravartin is the source of all mantra. Once Asura killed him that was it, reason why he died, but he gets reincarnated. The Mantra Reactor gave Asura the power to fight Chakravartin. It is fueled by Asura's rage and can pretty much hold in an infinite amount of power meaning that the longer Asura fights and gets angry, the stronger he becomes over time that's why he was easily able to overcome Chakravartin in the end and Asura showed 0 sign of fatigue. In the end though Kratos holds no ground when it comes to Asura at his fullest when he's fought for literally thousands of years.
Yeah I wasn't surprised by this. Kratos is just on a higher level. That said though, I think that Asura has the potential to surpass him considering the gargantuan gaps in power he's crossed before. 12k years dead, 500 years dead and beating his creator in base form when said creator dismantled his strongest form. Angrier he gets, stronger he becomes, those power boosts are permanent and massive. If Kratos doesn't put Asura down quick, the latter can get one over the former but in most cases Kratos wins.
Well yeah like I said. In most cases Kratos wins, Kratos can put Asura down quick. If he slacks around too much, Asura is capable of surpassing him for the reasons I said above. I could see Norse Kratos maybe going easy given his temperament. Greek obviously wouldn't be so merciful.@@sator2766
Well the issue with that argument is that no quantifiable power boost can close the gap between the two. Since Kratos scales to 5D which is something 90% of powerscalers who are involved with Kratos scaling agree upon, he is beyond infinitely stronger than anyone who is 4D and even more so to 3D characters. Dimensional scaling is wack since a character even being just 1 dimension higher in AP makes them beyond infinitely stronger.
It was 12000 years he was dead Asura is roughly 2 million years old. Each cycle of vlitra is roughly 12500 years. At the start of the game it states 160 something cycles do the math it’s about 2 million years old The spider in naraka states when asura asks how long he’s been dead states it’s been 12000 years but that nothing in the lifespan of a Demi god like yourself
6:48 Why does Helios scale to star level? Why does the Greek world's sun scale to our sun when it literally fell to Earth in God of War: Chains of Olympus, and this fact was mentioned in the Valhalla DLC? So, the sun in the Greek world smaller than Earth so you can't scale it to a real star that is billions of time larger. 7:56 The term "immeasurable in magnitude" implies that something is beyond measurement or quantification, but it doesn't necessarily mean infinite in size. Similarly, expressions like "endless sky" or "infinite sky" are often used metaphorically to convey a sense of vastness and boundlessness rather than a literal infinite size. Language often employs figurative expressions to evoke emotions or convey abstract concepts.Ariel's statement doesn't explicitly mention anything being infinite. Also Altas Does not hold up the underworld its located below him. 10:15 how did you get calculations for their speed without a specified time frame. The narration mentioning the Primordals battle lasting "an eternality" leaves the feat's duration unclear, possibly spanning billions even trillions of years.? 10:38 Steven Caterson, the producer, isn't involved in the creation process of God of War. He wasn't aware of characters other than Hermes dodging Helios' light so I fail to see how this is vaild proof when the question was loaded. Helios illuminated the underworld with his entire body and the sun chariot. I doubt his severed head's light being equal without concrete proof.
For your first point. He scales to star level cause he embodies and is as strong as the sun. Also the sun being contained in the underworld just upscales the sheer size of it. Your second point is dismissed via hitchen's razor and false equivalence. How we portray infinity is not the same as in gow when it's explicitly clear cut and consistent that the underworld is infinite and so are both the cosmos and even Gaia as confirmed in the novels. So the burden is on you to prove it's hyperbole. The Primordials fighting might have been eternal, but the CREATION of the universe was in an instant so what you did was straw man the Eternity part. He's still vital to Gow and you conceding to him acknowledging Hermes dodging said light already goes against your argument. Helios in literally EVERY scene we see him in uses his head, not his body. His head illuminated the underworld. Even ignoring this part, a fraction of infinity is still infinity. Helio's light at all covering the underworld makes his light infinite speed cause it covered infinity in a finite time.
@redking8243 thanks for the reply. 1.)The narration mentions that the sun falls to the earth before entering the underworld. Applying Occam's razor suggests the simplest solution: the sun is pulled by small chariots and can fall to the earth without causing harm to the earth, considering it's smaller than the earth. It's important to clarify that the earth is never depicted or stated to be infinite size. 2.)Your argument involves an appeal to ignorance fallacy. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and your only evidence consists of statements that are not necessary. "Immeasurable in magnitude" and "infinite sky" are not literal statements. If you insist they are literal, the burden of proof lies with you. Also the underworld is located below atlas so regardless he doesn't lift that up. 3.)The cut scene did not play out in real-time. If it had, it would mean that the entire God Titan war happened in an instant, contradicting the depiction of the war in God of War 2. 4.)The question he asked was loaded, containing untrue assumptions, making it invalid. Unless you believe trick questions are vaild. Additionally, he wasn't aware that other characters in the game could dodge Helios's light. What makes his statement reliable? Simply citing his work with the development team isn't enough; asking the janitor the same question would be just as valid using that logic. And regarding Helios, in God of War: Chains of Olympus, his sun chariot lit up the underworld when taken into the world. Scaling the light of his severed head to the light of his entire body plus the literal sun doesn't make sense
@@marraytaleus6598 Np. The context would refer to the main entry from earth to the underworld. The chariots being small is not relevant given that small Gods inverse can destroy giant titans. Occam's Razor entails actually that the simplest solution is that the earth can withstand the sun's heat. Also the Gow novels (secondary canon) confirm Gaia is indeed infinite. Not how it works. You asserted they were not literal and used an argument from real life to support it. I placed the burden on you first to prove it was metaphorical and you also just made a claim again they aren't literal yet nothing substantiates that. The standards in powerscaling is that the statement of a thing's size is literal unless proven otherwise. Also I never said anything about Atlas holding the underworld. That's doesn't sequitur into itself. How does the Titans fighting on earth go against the visuals of The Primordials fighting? Even then the gods were well after the Primordials fighting AND ascension was way after the PS2 era so how you think the 2 connect is beyond me. Of course the fan asked the questions. He wanted confirmation which he got. The point was to confirm Hermes dodging Helio's light was real and can't be argued as a gameplay mechanic. Why would him not being aware of others dodging said light debunk the question is the better question. That's another non sequitur where the argument doesn't align with your conclusion and unless you have proof a janitor works on a game in anyway, that's another false equivalence. His chariot =\= his body. Again, we literally see the head lighting up the entire area he's in in gow3 and I already explained how it makes sense. It's still a speed feat to begin with.
@@redking8243 1.)The explanation doesn't make any sense. Are you saying there's an entrance to the underworld on Earth, larger than the Earth itself? For this to be possible, the sun would need to be smaller than the Earth. Yes, you mentioned that the novel claims Gaia is infinite in size, but I have both novels and can't find any statement supporting this anywhere. 2.)"I didn't make that up. Ask anyone familiar with writing or the English language. Even if you ask ChatGPT, the response would be the same. 'Immeasurable in magnitude' doesn't mean infinite in size, and 'infinite sky' is a common expression in writing. Also, the burden of proof doesn't fall on me; you can't prove a negative. What you're demanding is as logically possible as creating a square triangle. If a statement was meant to be interpreted literally, it would be easy to prove, but in your scenario, there's no concrete proof, which is why you're trying to shift the burden of proof onto me in the first place 3.) My point is that your assumption is based on a cut scene that is not playing out in real time. The primordials are shown creating the universe in the instant. Zeus is shown defeating the titans in an instant, and the world is shown being created in an instant. This is obviously not the time span it played out. 4.)The question contains a false assumption. It is structured in a way to trick someone into agreeing with something that isn't true. do you see these types of questions as legitimate because they're not seen as valid by our court system for a reason. This is false. Go back and actually watch play-through of God of war 3 Kratos doesn't acquire Helio's head until after he kills Hades and makes his way out of the underworld. Helios lighting up the underworld is something that happened in god of war chain of Olympus when his entire body and his sun chairs was taken into the underworld. there is no proof that Helios head alone can actually do this.
Not sure if you've watch either Amphibia or Owl House or both, but I was wondering if you could do a video on Anne Boonchuy vs. Luz Noceda in the future.
I know this is probably a long shot but would you be able to scale the last Dragonborn to characters like these two? Just a suggestion since elder scrolls power scaling is pretty nuts for being a fantasy setting
@@nukedpyro it isn't funny to me. It's actually astonishing to me how powerful the Dragonborn is. I didn't feel that powerful playing the game, but the lore implies otherwise, and to me, it's fuckin nuts
The comparison is not fair, Asura only has one story that we know of, its better to compare Asura with Kratos in first God of war Game, Albeit if Asura will have a continuation, this comparison would change.
why should your suggestion be fairer? you want to take a kratos that is not today's kratos. But you put him against an asura who is the current asura, which means that until a new game or new lore appears, the asura is in with his best values. If you follow your logic you could also say you take Kratos out of the 100th game, it could be that a 100th game appears where Kratos takes part. umd this kratis is theoretically stronger than the current kratos. should, could, would.
Asura is just stronger than Kratos in every way, period. Kratos uses and relies on weapons and tools that were made by gods that are either on the same level as Kratos, slightly stronger than Kratos or far weaker than Kratos. Asura doesn't need to use weapons to kill gods that are theoretically and physically stronger than himself because his rage is just that strong, not to mention that everytime Asura dies he's soul is transported to Naraka and his body is almost indestructible and he can theoretically come back to life an indefinite number of times. Even if Kratos could get past the whole Naraka resurrection thing that Asura has going on, he'd still have to contend with Asura's strangth and rage/wraith triggers which is enough to kill gods that range from planetary to omniversal. Kratos just isn't going to win.
Nobody says kratos is strong cause feats present in game People say he's strong cause he kills gods and would be a god himself That's it, It's a narrative based argument mostly related to myths Gow scaling has nothing to do with gow games
@@DragonBallsolosyourverse so it’s just made up stuff that you can exaggerate as much as you like without supplying any evidence? Is that how scaling works to you?
@@DragonBallsolosyourverse exactly right but there is so much more evidence that exists that completely debunks them. But they refuse that evidence stating that their evidence is more prevalent than what is stated in the games or books or by devs
Well, if you bring Destructor Form in this fight, Asura can literally do the ' STANDING HERE I REALIZE ' to Kratos through every planets, every suns, every moons, everything at the speed that he's going. So, the fight needs to be planets and suns being thrown about, making galaxies dissappear like Death Battle's Hulk vs Broly.
@@CHAOS_FR600 wow Asura is Quote Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality. Quote Existence Erasure Resistance: Asura could easily resist Chakravartin's Reality Warping and Existence Erasure and even defeated Chakravartin The Creator who could control all aspects of reality itself This includes every superpower period including petrify Unlimited Mode (Trikaya) When Asura activates this mode, the markings on his body emanate a bright orange light due to the Mantra flowing through his body. While in this state, Asura becomes invulnerable to any kind of attack or damage, his strength and power are augmented, and his stamina is virtually unlimited, which prevents him from overheating. In game this lasts a short time, but during the final fights with Yasha and Chakravartin he is in this form almost indefinitely. So Asura is completely invulnerable
@@sparta-zh7yk kratos needs the loom chamber on the island of creation in order to travel time. Without it he can’t. Quote Asura Existence Erasure Resistance: Asura could easily resist Chakravartin's Reality Warping and Existence Erasure and even defeated Chakravartin The Creator who could control all aspects of reality itself. So no he can’t even erasure Asura who is stated and shown in game to be immune to it.
If there’s one thing that people kinda forget about asura. It’s that he will slowly get stronger as the fight goes on. Remember the seven deities became way more stronger than the 8 guardian generals. Like the first fight with a resurrected asura and wyzen. Though in his base form he was able to beat wyzen, but when wyzen took on his second transformation, he had a lot more trouble. Till he said something about asuras daughter, then he was able to match his power and surpass his second form. And was able to do the same thing, when wyzen went into his 3rd form, but lost all his arms in the process. Let’s also mention that wyzen was the weakest out of all the deities. And in the final fight, people also forget that asura was returned to his resurrected base form, without the power amp given to him by Yasha. When the fight went on, asura was able to not only match the creator but also defeat him. So in short, the longer the fight goes on, the more it’s in asuras favor.
I also feel like people never bring up the time he fought an entire horde of gohma with a broken blade, no arms, and defeated the entire army with a rage induce energy fist.
The force required to physically destroy Earth and break it apart into pieces would be immense. Earth's gravitational binding energy, which is the minimum energy required to disassemble the planet, is estimated to be about 2.24 × 10^32 joules The feat including tyr‘s temple is a big one. It weighs 1774000 tons. Cory Barlog tweeted that, when asked about it Now, mathematically, guess who is stronger? Not kratos, so you can fanboi or cope all you want. He gets one shot. The gods in gow must be pretty weak too.
@@Jsipki265 world tree is not a 5d construct. Once again thats you people playing pretend. 5d would be transcendent beyond time and space with no body. He clearly has a body. Even in lore its a literal tree with branches that lead to other dimensions and an actual location with the serpent constantly eating at it. Feel free to do the math but the amount of force is likely less. The whole punching through a world is literally billions of tons of force or juels being more accurate. He is strong but not that strong and in all the cannon games and lore he never reaches those points even with weapons. Killing 'gods' just means you killed someone with a fancy title. A real god who actually is the 'creator' would just wave a hand at Kratos. Even against Ares its just a kaiju fight at most.
@@Jsipki265 To conclude, if you guys want to 'compare' characters from games or anime you go off feats not headcannon. Hell even the slayer was stopped by having a temple dropped on him. You think a god coulnlt just do that and go 'oh well good enough'
@emm6101 Ratatorskr literally said the destruction of the world tree means the destruction of the Norse verse both when garm was released and when retrieving the babies of the creature you killed w freya. Even in GOW 2018 the strains of the branches were said to transcend space and time so yes it’s 5D.
You can even argue that Kratos scales to 7d , since the well of destiny which exists in Midgard was stated to contain an infinite amount of timelines and possibilities which can be argued to be 5d then you got the realm between the realms which was also stated to transcend everything within the realms which would make it 6d and Yggdrasil transcending everything that exists makes it 7d and Kratos basically scales to it and that's not even his high end , in Ragnarok he basically confirmed his appearance in PS all stars battles which was also confirmed by the Devs to poke fun of Playstation, and since technically you could use that as an argument to put in probably high outer since ps all stars Kratos waa capable of defeating polygon man who not only can mess up with the game's script but is also the embodiment of playstation itself which means that he transcends every verse that exists on the platform, but again this is if wanna get really wacky with his Gow scaling
Quote Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality. Quote Chakravartin who created the Wheel of life a cycle that embodies an infinite number of universes. The Wheel of Life 'Cycle of Rebirth encompasses the concepts of life, death, destruction, creation, death and rebirth across an infinite number of universes Mantra can allow him to overcome impossible odds and be able to adapt and evolve to any opponent regardless of their power and Higher-Dimensionality Defeated Chakravartin who stated that he held all of existence in the palm of his hands. with the Mantra Reactor his strength has no dimensional boundaries… No debate Asura slams How is kratos even close to high outter nothing in PlayStations is close to high outter polygon man is only multiversal
@@Devilchylde1- nobody meantioned polygen amn 2- GOW have a higher cosmolgy 3- creating a universe make you universal, so Asura is high universal not outversal
@@sparta-zh7yk creating a fiction before universe was even created makes you outterversal because you exist without a universe exist in meaning outside the universe. God of wars cosmology Google Kotaku what’s next for god if war Interview with Corey barlog Quote Barlog: Oh, totally. I’ve always looked at this universe like our world. The geography separates the cultural mythologies. The cultural mythologies are stories of the zero-point to present day. These are the birth and the origin of these cultures. So the Norse mythology exists in Scandinavia, and simultaneously, across the world, the Mayan mythology has its origins, right? These are cultural stories about how they explain the birth of their cultures. And I think, as I look at the whole world, that each of these gods had their own domains, right? The way that countries had their own domains… Domains on a planet like our own 2nd quote same interview Barlog: Right [laughs]. But yeah, it is a consistent single universe. As we start to look at these things, there’s little bits, here and there, that let you know. Like, Tyr, had connections to a lot of other pantheons. And there is reference, in Norse mythology, of gods interacting with Roman gods So god of war is 1 universe. Asuras has quote Chakravartin who created the Wheel of life a cycle that embodies an infinite number of universes. The Wheel of Life 'Cycle of Rebirth encompasses the concepts of life, death, destruction, creation, death and rebirth across an infinite number of universes Has an infinite amount. Asura beat chakravartin in nirvana the same place sunwukong transcends to. We have the physical universe An event horizon and naraka All universes. Outterversal doesn’t even need a big cosmology as long as you can exist beyond time and space you qualify. Quote Multiversology tiering system 1A Paragraph 2 However, do note that characters can qualify for this tier even if the fictional verse they belong to does not consist of an infinite set of higher dimensions and/or sizes, as long as they themselves bypasses the concepts of space and time in a way that simply "stacking" more dimensions[1] logically would not allow one to reach their level of power/size. Regardless of of the amount of dimensions…. Quote Corey barlog again Long-time director of the franchise Cory Barlog explained that the mythological pantheons on the Earth of God of War are similar to the Hubble Ultra-Deep Field , which shows hundreds of individual galaxies. In the analogy, each galaxy represents a particular pantheon from all the mythologies of the world and these "galaxies" are wrapped around the planet. That's how they simultaneously exist with their own belief systems and creation/destruction stories, while still being separated by geography like normal regions of the world Separated by geography meaning land and oceans. Quote him again Cory Barlog stating that the space separating Midgard and Olympus is literally the distance between Greece and Scandinavia[14] implies much shorter distances. So the entirety of gif of war happens on the same planet. Making the cosmology irrelevant to kratos scaling because he is still on 1 planet and has only affected 2 domains. Asura blows up hundreds of planets casually and fights chakravartin beyond time and space.
Heres a battle recommendation. How about Metro Man(Megamind) vs All Might(My Hero Academia). These two are very heroic figures but in completely different ways and i think this would make for a good debate as the two characters also have similar ranges of power.
I'm no further than you talking about Kratos vs Helios and how Helios is the Sun, and I can already tell you about to give this to Kratos. Kratos has more games. He has more lore. He has more screen time and development. He's the fan favorite; we spent more time with him. We get it. And even if we add alllllllll of Kratos' feats together, they'd still pale in comparison to Asura's one fight against that fat dude who Facebook poked Earth. You said he was planetary in size....no young man, his FINGER was planetary in size lol. The "Helios has the power of the Sun" is beyond silly too (no disrespect). Helios has the power of Earth's Sun, that's cute when in the same video you show Asura defeating the final boss of his dlc and that god's so massive he's got several galaxies floating around him that're the size of birds compared to him. For reference sake, NASA says there's well over 100 million stars/suns in our Milky Way Galaxy alone..........buddy Asura defeated could've ate the galaxies swarming him like snacks, and Kratos vs Helios was supposed to be impressive next to that? 😂😂🤔 Kratos is the fan favorite, we get it. But Kratos would need every buff, power up, artifact, and pantheon from every realm he's been to to help him fight off one of Asura's farts, let's be real here lol
" lets bé Real here " ignoring the whole kratos lore and go into Helios scaling that was made for speed and not power " Helios GOT the power of the Sun of earth " no hé also have the power of the sun of hell aka Infinite size ? You beating yourself Titans punche créat the universe and kratos beat in the second game That alone matche asura best feats People like you ignor everything about lore and go to gammeplay to Say asura win is sad
I am excited for Kratos VS Dante but Dante will stomp because mirage swords both Vergil and Dante can summon are made out of souls and souls in that universe are 9d so they scale to it and Kratos is max 5d so...
elaborate on the "9D" aspect since from what I've seen, its not in any of the lore in the games except for the Chinese mobile version that stated as such despite it being removed in a later patch of the game... plus any elaboration on said '9D'
seriously this whole Dimensional tiering is such convoluted nonsense... its better to stick to terms such as 'outerversal' since that's easier to follow along and there's various factors to a character that can be outerversal or whatever else
Well, a lot people just underrated Asura pretty much, and overestimate Kratos. Let's start with Kratos, he is stronger than Uranus, who created the universe, including many bodies of universal size and the space-time continuum (this is probably the best thing that Kratos showed). The Temple of Tyr was created by mortals after the existence of the nine worlds. The Temple of Tyr does not contain the 9 worlds, it is in them, and this is what Mimir means when he says that he is rooted in all the worlds. Freya claims that the tree inside the Temple of Tyr is just an image of Yggdrasil and is not even a real tree, meaning that it is not infinite. There is no Yggdrasil in the Temple of Tyr. That's why Kratos never raised or damaged the 9 Multiverses or anything like that. The Temple of Tyr is used as a portal-gate rather than a door, and does not contain the 9 worlds. For the Temple of Tyr to truly contain 9 worlds, the Temple of Tyr would have to be the only way to cross the worlds, however in Ragnarok Mimir states that Odin sent enemies through the worlds using the sky. Again, Kratos cannot raise 9 Multiverses, this is nonsense and contradicts everything that is shown in the games. Kratos is not physically stronger than Atlas, if someone thinks that slightly moving the fingers of Atlas, who did not even really try to kill Kratos, proves that Kratos is Stronger than Atlas? Of course not, this is nonsense. Kratos did not defeat death and did not become death himself, although Thanatos was in space beyond dimensions, there is no indication that Thanatos himself is at such a level, the sphere of death, as mentioned, transcends dimensions, but is still only located within Greek mythology , which is a direct contradiction since Greek mythology itself is a dimension, but probably implies a pocket dimension. Kingdoms of infinite size in any mythology are infinite only in relation to their mythology (for example Yggdrasil). The 9 worlds aren't universes, they're different planets, so yes, GOW doesn't just take place on Earth and in dimensions on Earth, but it's still the main location. About Jormungandr the World Serpent and Atlas, who raises the heavens. To everyone who wants to say that Jormungandr flew around the whole world, no, this is not true, even in GOW Kratos said that this is just an exaggeration. Well, Kratos’ speed is infinite only potentially; traveling through an infinite world does not mean that you have infinite speed; the Uroborus amulet only affects objects, and not something living. So he was not ahead of time (because Kratos cannot overtake time, which means he is not faster than infinity), but in principle it is possible to prove Kratos' infinite speed, for example, Atropos has infinite speed, and Kratos killed her by making his speed infinite. The Underworld, although there are reasons for the fact that it is infinite, is still implied to be infinite, and the light that covered the entire underworld has infinite speed, Hercules evaded such light, and Kratos does not lag behind it. Because yes, Kratos can, in principle, have infinite speed. Now Asura, I’ll say right away that Asuri has immunity to the manipulation of reality, time, space, soul and mind, therefore he does not need all the most powerful artifacts of Kratos, only protective artifacts and artifacts with additional damage to the enemy or increasing one’s own powers are useful: for example, manipulation ice, fire, water, lightning, creating explosions from souls, etc. Everything else will not help Kratos, but what is there will help prolong the fight. As for Asuri's powers, the list of his abilities is as follows: Regeneration, Energy Manipulation, Invulnerability, Pain Tolerance, Resurrection, Resistance to Existence Erasure, Resistance to Soul Manipulation, Resistance to Time Manipulation, Resistance to Petrification, Resistance to Fate Manipulation and Plot Manipulation, Resistance to Time Manipulation, Durability Denial . Also, Asura himself can Manipulate the soul. In a word, Asura calmly ignores all of Kratos’ most powerful abilities. Asura defeated Chakravartin, Chakravartin is the almighty God who created the whole world. Chakravartin created Naraku, the limitless world between life and death. Chakravartin also created many worlds (universes), in a word, he created the Multiverse (other Universes can be seen in the battle between Chakravartin and Asuri). If it seems to you that Chakravarti is only at the universal level, then this is not so, we have Gokhma Vlitra. He is stated to have limitless power both in the game and in the lore. The game clearly states that Vlitri’s level of power is incommensurable and limitless, which already puts her at the Highest Universal level. But Vlitra is only the creation of Chakravartin, Chakravartin cannot beat on the same level with his creation. Chakravartin himself stated that he created many worlds/universes that form the Multiverse, with the space of Naraka, that exist between life and death, while he is able to create the purpose of change by force of will. Asura moved in stopped time, making his speed infinite. Asura shattered reality and destroyed Naraka (infinite dimension). Kratos is maximum at the Multiverse level, Asura at the same level is possibly Multiverse+. Both at infinite speed. But Asura will constantly become stronger, so Kratos will not be able to win. The battle will not be easy, but Asura will defeat Kratos.
honest truth Asura is stronger, in the end he was one shotting planets. Never seen Kratos come close and thats pretty much game. Also Kratos has never fought for years on end etc.
This tells me everything i need to know. Kratos bodied Zeus in Gow 2 who defeated cronos while far younger and weaker who birthed all time and said cronos defeated his Primordial father who birthed the entire infinite universe by just getting punched and he still had more energy in his body. I could bring up a lot more but this is sufficient evidence to prove Kratos is far higher than planetary.
they don't know how to scale first let's talk about basic asura scaling first asura fight wyzen who in his final form dwarfs the planet in size and asura easily defeat wyzen we also know he is the weakest out of all the deities so all the other deities could be scaled to planetary as we see with August we know that his sword as able to go through the planet asura brakes this sword and kills August with his own blade we also see this with deus fuses with the karma fortress creating Sakura Devanm lndra deus asura and yahshua fly towards the brahmastra deus tries to use the hand brahmastra to clap them both which actually has been calc to 33.881 nia tons of tnt or large planet level at a lowball or dwarf star -level at a highball I could go into more but let's talk about chakravartin first we know that asura is bigger than the planet in his destructive form first we know chakravartin has multiple Stars solar system and galaxies around him and his avatars as big as the Milky Way first has been confirmed that chakravartin has destroyed and recreated multiple universes putting multiversal if you don't want to say he's multiversal you could just put them a higher universal now let's get to the crazy stuff it's there now let's talk about asura outerversal first asura scales to chakravartin chakravartin being the person who created two endless size space-time continuum's or universes there are 2 Nirvana's the main universe and chakravartin therefore also would be multiversal or infinitely 4D this isn't even the strongest version we see of chakravartin who appears at the end of the same chakravartin is seen as omnipotent do take this as a grain of salt omnipotent or all-powerful could just mean all powerful but the statement is still there after asura defeats the gohma vlitra then asurawill be betrayed by the seven demigods and be thrown in the Nirvana\Naraka Nirvana within Buddhism and hindu mythology is a place of torment within the six realms of samsara samsara or Nirvana being the endless cycle of life and death and rebirth with the karmic cycle this will be consistent seeing how it's stated multiple times in the cutscenes that chakravartin did in fact create Nirvana with chakravartin being a literal representation of parapratman within buddhist and saint chris religion and mythology we can say chakravartin in his creator form what's able to create all samsara the main universe and the horizon what this he be outerversal as one who surpasses the citizen of samsara one reaches the state of atman from Hindu philosophy the Hindu concept of self-realization which a universal self which is beyond identification with concepts such as non-dualism and dualism the ultimate reality brahman and being called venepeda which is non dualism and dualism this state-of ottman is brahman being a diva spawn from avolokltwshvra in a sutea and or is commonly known as a guinepqd brahman being the ultimate reality beyond concption comprehension and identification this would be outerversal being beyond concepts such as dualism and identification which multiple concepts such as space and time are bound by would scale to this space and time being the fundamental nature aspects of all forms of dimensionality furthermore this type of dualism or Buddhism is referring to taoism is more closely related to Eastern Taoism which is a separate form of Western theological dualism that was the natural order the universe differ from dualism dualism the philosophy where similar opposing concepts and or opposing concepts are a constant state of balance so in conclusion asura in base is outerversal Asura win this and I love kratos
You both wrong. Let’s look at asuras cosmology Quote asuras wrath the official complete works Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality. continuum On par with base Chakravartin who created the Wheel of life a cycle that embodies an infinite number of universes. The Wheel of Life 'Cycle of Rebirth encompasses the concepts of life, death, destruction, creation, death and rebirth across an infinite number of universes Infinite. We have the event horizon that’s another universe We have naraka another universes So how does Asura cap at uni? Quote god of war interview with Corey barlog Kotaku what’s next for gif of war. Barlog: Oh, totally. I’ve always looked at this universe like our world. The geography separates the cultural mythologies. The cultural mythologies are stories of the zero-point to present day. These are the birth and the origin of these cultures. So the Norse mythology exists in Scandinavia, and simultaneously, across the world, the Mayan mythology has its origins, right? These are cultural stories about how they explain the birth of their cultures. And I think, as I look at the whole world, that each of these gods had their own domains, right? The way that countries had their own domains Quote 2 Barlog: Right [laughs]. But yeah, it is a consistent single universe. As we start to look at these things, there’s little bits, here and there, that let you know. Like, Tyr, had connections to a lot of other pantheons. And there is reference, in Norse mythology, of gods interacting with Roman gods Quote 3 Barlog: Right [laughs]. But yeah, it is a consistent single universe. As we start to look at these things, there’s little bits, here and there, that let you know. Like, Tyr, had connections to a lot of other pantheons. And there is reference, in Norse mythology, of gods interacting with Roman gods Quote Cory Barlog stating that the space separating Midgard and Olympus is literally the distance between Greece and Scandinavia[14] implies much shorter distances. Kratos continental Confirmed by Corey barlog himself Asura defeated an outterversal solo creator of his existence. Uranus only created Greece he has nothing to do with Norse. So stop the cap fangirl
@@DevilchyldeCory's statement gets shitcanned by the GOW 1 novel😂. Source material> authors. Get on disc if you want the scans mine is in my bio while ur at it send ur asura scans as well.
Kratos can’t one shot buldar cos of his invulnerability Asura quote Unlimited Mode (Trikaya) When Asura activates this mode, the markings on his body emanate a bright orange light due to the Mantra flowing through his body. While in this state, Asura becomes invulnerable to any kind of attack or damage, his strength and power are augmented, and his stamina is virtually unlimited, which prevents him from overheating. In game this lasts a short time, but during the final fights with Yasha and Chakravartin he is in this form almost indefinitely. Sorry but Asura destroys kratos
@@Devilchylde your argument is very no limit fallacy, Kratos has shown feats that are infinitely above asura, Kratos would one shot your favorite character, sorry.
@@TheRealVyke lol doesnt kratos need a bifrost to travel dimensions? Or a unity stone. Kratos himself have any cosmic feats? Asura can existences erasure. Doesn’t kratos get erased if he jumps off the tree unprotected? How does kratos fair against invulnerability like buldar? Asura is invulnerable by the end of the game. Question you think kratos has bigger scaling right? Quote Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality. Care to compare?
@@TheRealVyke sure. Quote These aren’t my opinion. Asuras wrath the official complete works. It’s also given visual interpretation in game. Example in every instance prior to gaining h the mantra core reactor asuras base arms get destroyed with his construct arms. While fighting chakravartin only the construct arms get destroyed around his base arms his base form is completely fine. Asura in game has a mode that you can active to become temporarily invulnerable. In the final fight this is activated permanently. Forms. You can look this up on every wiki fandom comic vines or the book itself. They all state the exact same thing word for word. Quote Unlimited Mode (Trikaya) When Asura activates this mode, the markings on his body emanate a bright orange light due to the Mantra flowing through his body. While in this state, Asura becomes invulnerable to any kind of attack or damage, his strength and power are augmented, and his stamina is virtually unlimited, which prevents him from overheating. In game this lasts a short time, but during the final fights with Yasha and Chakravartin he is in this form almost indefinitely Invulnerable. It’s his firm at the end of the game. No weakness this is further suppported with this statement. Existence Erasure Resistance: Asura could easily resist Chakravartin's Reality Warping and Existence Erasure and even defeated Chakravartin The Creator who could control all aspects of reality itself. Reality warping encompasses every superpower ability manipulation that exists. Being immune to all aspects of reality warping makes you literally invulnerable to everything. Chakravartin being an omnipotent reality warper makes him do any feat imaginable. This is also confirmed with this statement. Quote As the original creator and source of Mantra, as well as the God of Mantra and "Spinner of Mantra", Chakravartin has absolute control over all the Mantra in the Universe. Through the absolute and complete manipulation of Mantra, Chakravartin is shown to be capable of accomplishing virtually any feat imaginable without any sort of effort required. Omnipotence means being power incarnate and the ability to do everything imaginable. This is due to god like levels of reality warping Search reality warping superpowers to see everything asura is immune to. So Asura is invulnerable at the end of the game. Watch the key to victory asuras wrath. Asura gains all 8 laws that govern his existence. All & laws encompass every concept in asuras existence. Reactive evolution. Quotes Mantra can allow him to overcome impossible odds and be able to adapt and evolve to any opponent regardless of their power and Higher-Dimensionality Defeated Chakravartin who stated that he held all of existence in the palm of his hands. with the Mantra Reactor his strength has no dimensional boundaries. Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality. Asura's Mantra Affinity is Wrath. This signifies that Asura's strength and power are proportionate to his level of anger, rage and wrath. This plays a major role in the story, as it allows Asura to constantly build up and increase his Mantra output to what could be infinite levels the more anger he builds up. Understandably alongside his Mantra levels, his physical demigod abilities also escalate exponentially the angrier he becomes and the more wrath his Mantra of Wrath generates. Due to having a virtually infinite amount of Mantra, Asura can overcome impossible odds and adapt to any kind of power. Yasha once questioned Deus as to how Asura's Mantra levels could match those of the Seven Deities, even after accumulating over seven trillion human souls worth of Mantra to enhance their powers. Stated in game by dues. Asura actually has statements confirming infinite immeasurable and unlimited. Kratos has non. Asura has hax that enable him to counter reality warping god like beings. Kratos has non. Quote As The Destructor, all of Asura's abilities and overall power were immeasurable and god-like in status, as during his battle with the Mantra God. Asura can one punch shatter higher planes of existence such as in his fight with chakravartin where he shatters naraka. Chakravartin is the embodiment of life death rebirth being the wheel of life. The only way to kill him would be to existence erasure him since he is beyond death and can simply reincarnate being the embodiment of it. Asuras hax far exceed anything kratos can do. Go read any stat block on Asura all of this information is copy pasted from asuras wrath the official complete works. Can you show me any statements or feats displaying anything immeasurable or infinite regarding kratos? Kratos sustains damage. After a valley destruction sized battle with buldar kratos was crawling home barely able to drag his axe fatigued. Meanwhile Asura punching planets larger than galaxies and one ounching infinite higher planes of existence in a single punch. Against a solo creator god that can do all the feats of every being in god of war with a mere thought. Kratos is pure hyperbole and exaggerations. 90% of his scaling is feats done by others. 100% of asuras are done by himself. Asura has hax that far outmatch kratos. Sorry to break it to you
Is there anyway I could request a Vs match? Cause I would love if someone made this match up cause in my opinion Kratos vs Dracula from Castlevania would be one hell of a matchup.
Asura wins and here’s why Kratos is a human and asura has a lot of arms meaning he can multitask unlike kratos meaning he scales higher then me and I am omnipotent
Kratos is a demi god, not human and Asura having multiple arms means nothing considering that kratos simultaneously killed three furies in Gow ascension and the 3 headed hydra. I hope that Last comment is a joke as well.
@@redking8243I’m not joking I am a omnipotent human being plus asura has hair meaning he has a hairline making him 10 times as stronger then kratos
I don’t remember kratos punching through multiple planets and suns in any of the games? This is barely an argument in the final battle against Chakravartin. He launched a gamma ray, larger than earth to destroy everything there. If that happened to Kratos, what is he doing even if somehow by a miracle, he could take that the entire earth would be destroyed so he would just float in space for eternity.
OK, because it's called cosmology difference. How it works is that asura takes place on actual earth inside of a universe, while gow takes place inside of a Norse universe, with multiple realms and space time continnuems. Also that's like what? Planetary? Kratos is capable of lifting hyperion spear, which is the literal weight of the cosmos, and atlas hammer, the weight of the world. Also atlas lifts the heavens as stated in gow 2 Manuel, or even the world pillar reverting everything back to nothingness aka chaos if destroyed, stated by persephone, goddess of the underworld.
Couldn't asura just absorb his wrath and anger cause that dude was able surpass his much more powerful a opponents when the fight goes on. The more wrath he absorb the stronger he becomes.
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch watch asuras wrath the key to victory. He gains the mantra reactor which gives him all 8 of the laws that govern his existence which in Hindi encompasses every concept in his existence. Stated by yasha shown in game. He gains every concept including hope fear life death etc Watch it for evidence
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch watch asuras wrath the key to victory We see Asura gain wrath envy greed sloth pride vanity melancholy. He gains all the laws that govern his existence
On another note, after you get done covering the matchups you want here. Something neat to cover would be proper scaling for the Vault Hunters of the Borderlands series. In any of the four main games.
You know that kratos got debunked, and only turns to be continental level, and most of those suposed feats, were made for fanboys to buffed kratos didn't you?
Unrelated but it's been awhile so I was wondering if you could scale singularly point godzilla and that gabera lookalike and the anime trilogy mecha godzilla
ngl i dont think kratos could fight someone tossing galaxies at him. also asura is pretty much immortal. quote. Unlimited Mode (Trikaya) When Asura activates this mode, the markings on his body emanate a bright orange light due to the Mantra flowing through his body. While in this state, Asura becomes invulnerable to any kind of attack or damage, his strength and power are augmented, and his stamina is virtually unlimited, which prevents him from overheating. In game this lasts a short time, but during the final fights with Yasha and Chakravartin he is in this form almost indefinitely also asura has another broken ability that works perfectly with his first one. quote. Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality...
Or we could just point out the kratos is barely mountain level fodder that struggles against mortal weapons and animals and if i put a big enough block of ice in front of him there nothing kratos can do.
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch not game mechanics that happened in his books and his comics in fact it happens in the books more often than it does in the game.
@@GodzillaEditz1224 how would that up scale the tree and he is a demigod in all the games he is only a full god for a short time at the beginning of Gow2
I think you forgot to mention that kratos beat the sisters of fate which are primordials, so I think low multiversal would be kratos power at the minimum or at least the half
bro you are comparing lore kratos to asura considering game feats of asura ......... but let me tell you chakravartin is omnipotent or atleast nai omnipotent its written in his game bio not in a fucking comic or shit ....... chakarvartin can do anything with his thought he is embodiment of wheel of life (wheel of life is connected to infinite number of universes), he can erase anything from reality with his thought ,he was casually creating infinite size dimenions and universes in his final fight with asura and asura broke those dimension and universes with just one punch and at end of game chaki and asura were fighting and moving where there was no time and space and they were fighting in a complete nothingness no reality .........characters that can move outside time and space and exist beyond the concept of reality are considered outerversal.
You missed on e thing ,the fact that thor hit the world serpent so hard it broke the world tree which is basicly reality so kratos is conparable to thor if not stronger because we know that he holds back in these's games so i guess we can say that kratos can crack reality itself Damn bruh 💀
Does at matter how powerful you rate kratos is quote asuras wrath Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality. So Asura wins
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch I’m saying power doesn’t matter to Asura Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality.
@@Devilchylde IAM saying the comment is about kratos prime and didnt said hé beat asura or anything AT all hé just asked a question about kratos yet you just had to bring asura out of nowhere A Guy in hes 40 will not do that AT all Expecially when you said you studie sciences Cause it seem you didnt studie basic manners
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch lol is that all you have to say. Just winging about something that doesn’t involve you. Like I need manners for a wank kratos Asura video. I’m not here to make friends I’m here to triggger god of war fans and bury them either facts. Just like I did to you. Stop trying to defend people I’m sure they can speak for themselves. And again I’m 41 get it right.
I goji chronic I just love your videos and I wanted to give some video ideas the would be really cool to watch so if you read this I would love to see these ❤😊 Kratos va Godzilla(rage across time) Idw optimism prime be Godzilla in hell And finally trying to figure out just how powerful composite Godzilla truly is 🦖I would love to see this thank you for reading and I love your videos and I can’t wait to see what happens next❤😊
Not gonna lie most of your points for Kratos doesn’t make sense if he moves at immeasurable speeds then why does he die from fodder enemies in the game or even get caught by an attack by them that’ll mean every enemy is mftl and that’s certainly not true. That’s basically saying just because I caught my dog running away from me means I can run just as fast as my dog which is not true because there’s multiple ways different ways of accomplishing that feat and that’s what Kratos he just find a loophole with his enemies and defeat them he’s not out right just one shorting all them the way making it seems and he never held back the Entirety of atlas he barely held back his finger tips which is not the full force of atlas
Because it is a game and is therefore handicapped by human technology and you as a player. and it would be boring if opponents couldn't defend themselves. Also, Kratos wasn't hit by food, that only happened to you as the player. It didn't happen in that one.
"He barely held back his fingertips which is not the full force of atlas" This is why context matters here as 1.Atlas can not only carry a multiversal structure with one hand as stated before that, but also the strongest titan. 2. It was a depowered kratos, literally obvious with the dialogue. "It once held the godly power I once yielded, as the God of War." Like cmon, the blade of Olympus literally drained his power, and there is more evidence of kratos being stronger than atlas anyways such as Hercules during the 12 labors lifted the heavens for a day for atlas to find the golden apples, and then tricking atlas to hold the heavens again and fleeing afterwards with said apples. Also hades literally absorbing his soul, which makes him blanlty stronger, hence why hades stated to kratos, "your soul will make me even stronger."
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Akhsially Asura didnt stay dead, he simply reincarnated in a modern age as can be seen in the last cutscene
One practically became a new person after death while the other one still lives as the same person
Basically;
Kratos is THEORETICALLY stronger.
Asura is SHOWN to be stronger.
Asura has shown his feats, I want to see Kratos bat away stars and planets being thrown at him, tank kicks and punches from the creator of all existence and survive being pushed through a planet…
I want to see Kratos beat his creator without beating a character who beat a character who beat a character who beat the creator.
it's sad people seriously can't take a loss to one of their favorite video game characters.
Nobody fucking cares if you like the character and what is "shown".
The entire point is to scale, if you just base stuff off what is only visible it literally just ruins the whole point.
Take a single fucking loss in yall's pathetic lives and stop being such big pussies about it.
@@ThyPegasussyhilariously ironic considering how salty you are.
I mean in chains of olympus kratos put the sun back in place as a human
@@KaylaIsaiah bro its this exact type of scaling i absolutely hate. same with the whole 9 realms thing even tho it only weighed 1.7mil tons which is not a lot for these characters.
This is nice, but Deus is not Asuras father. Also a lot of people believe that Kratos would win in this match, but I think in terms of being the angriest character Asura wins. Even if it took years he still carried that wrath within him, and went through hell and back to save his daughter and take revenge on the dieties for killing him and Durga. He still did it in spite of it all and still cared about the people around him. Kratos on the other hand..yeah
Nope. Asura is a father. Not Deus.
Technically asura is only angrier because of his abilities to get infinitely angrier like the hulk but even more enraging, kratos has a lot more to be angry about in GOW 1 through 3 since he was constantly having nightmares of the people he killed including his wife and daughter while constantly getting betrayed by both Ares, Zeus, Helios and even Athena.
@johnsantos507 goji compared Deus to zeus so I assumed he thought Deus was asuras father. I know asura is a father I've played the game multiple times unlike the powerscalers
@Spider-fan2038-js1iq Asura is wrath incarnate he was chosen to be and his anger shook the heavens literally. Asura was still haunted by his past we see it throughout the game, plus it's not fair to compare an entire trilogy to one game and a DLC.
@Spider-fan2038-js1iq also it isn't about a lot to be more angry about. it's just about how angry Asura was throughout the game. Kratos was angry, but he wasnt using his anger itself to slay his enemies and gods like Asura was. Asura was straight hands. He was a general who wanted a world where his family could live a normal life and that monsters weren't destroying countries running around and threatening the world. All of that crumbled in front of him when the emperor was killed, and everyone betrayed and framed him and called him a demon.
The angry soldier who got hes familly killed by a god and took revenge from them win
The funny thing is that describes both of them.
Gow 1 2 3 and the asura games explained:
A god never killed his family kratos did it himself.
@@DevilchyldeSo his brother just keeled over?
@@GoodNewzzz when they talk about family they talk about kratos daughter and wife.
Demos was only a half brother.
don’t be dumb
Now, just imagine Kratos, Dante, Doomguy, Azura, Sun Wukong, Fire God Liu Kang, and The Tarnished working as a team. You make the conclusion.
Don’t forget The Dovahkiin
Sun Wukong does all the work while the rest are chilling.
Wukong Is weak @@diamondcrafter78shane68
Each one of them could solo a entire verse if they wanted too so combination of their power they would Literally be able to solo any verse no dif
Asura defeated his version of Buddha in an event horizon
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Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality.
Asura ignores dimensionality being the only being here to defeat an omnipotent being
Love both character
Definitely wouldn't want either to lose
As a Asura s wrath fan , I find this to be greatly disappointing but expected
Same
It's bc you neglects scaling i played the game too kratos is stronger but seems weaker is bc of his dimensionality and cosmology difference
Nah, this fight is actually much closer than you think. Watch some other Kratos vs Asura videos and stop listening to Goji Chronic. He's not a reliable scaler
@@ashuraomega1000 Goji chronic is the only scaler I trust
@@ashuraomega1000Better than dudes who place both Kratos and Asura below universal
Kratos also heavily implies at least some Greek Gods were more impressive than Heimdall, at least... so even more evidence Greek Kratos should be at least somewhat relative to Norse Kratos.
He said that when he never even saw Heimdall 🤣
Do you know who else is relative to Norse Kratos..? MYYYY MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
@shorelinefishing9213 When Mimir said he never saw anyone lay a hand on Heimdall, including Thor. Though Heimdall never planned on fighting Thor in a serious manner, while Thor looked like he was going to at the very least butcher him like he did with Modi. I don't think Thor could win the fight, but he wouldn't lose either. If Heimdall's focus was trying to kill Thor blow for blow instead of evading him and outlasting him, then Heimdall would lose badly, but he may just Outlast Thor if that was his objective. At least we can agree, Heimdall is definitely much weaker than Thor.
the Norse Pantheon are nowhere close to being as powerful as the Greeks let alone the Nordic magic not being as powerful as the Greek's magic but the Norse Pantheon in GoW are still able to transcend concepts such as Space, time and dimensionality through the World Tree feats such as the Valkyries being able to travel through each realm which makes them equated to 'Irrelevant Speeds' since each realms themselves are their own universes with their own different sets of laws.
@@johnpeyton3264nothing realer than the sobering clap of a chancla after I didn't was the dishes... Literal god-slap
It's a good day when Goji posts!
Deathbattle is doing this as the first of DB 25. Now, the only thing I can say is that the results will probably be based on how DB interprets their biggest feats (which necessarily doesn't mean they'll be considered correct to everyone). You see, the biggest thing Asura has is killing Chakravatrin while Kratos defeated Thor while holding back.
For Asura, some people considering the Chakravatrin feat universal because they consider Chakravatrin the creator of the universe. However, it has also been said that a developer said that Chakravatrin only created mantra, and not their universe. But atm, we could probably scale Asura at least universal.
For Kratos, it gets more tricky. When he and Thor fought in Ragnarok, their fight shook up the entirety of all of Yggdrassil and its realms. Now the issue is how does all of this scale. Are the realms part of one single world (Planetary), the collective universe (universe), or they all different universes of their own (Miultiversal)? Because if we highball both Asura and Kratos, that means Kratos greatly overpowers Asura by a huge deal. (And don't forget, Kratos didn't want to kill Thor and held back)
Regardless of the outcome, I don't think the Kratos vs Asura DB can ever be settled.
Hope this year we can add Sun Wukong to that roster and see how all 5 of these characters would scale
Tbh Sun Wukong should probably be beating them all. I can't say that for certain since Dante scaling continues to elude me (always lost in outerversal claims) but current mythology Sun Wukong is clapping. All the hax plus the scaling to boot. You couldn't even possibly kill mythos Sun Wukong.
@@kingdave7996 I don't know much about Dante, but I do know that Doomguy has some feats highly similar to Kratos along with an Arsenal even larger
Sun would probably beat all of them at the same time, that stone monkey is absurdly op
@@TechTheFeck Correct. Doomguy is at least low multiversal in power likely closer to Multiversal. Arguments for 5D are there, but not as concrete as Kratos.
@@kingdave7996 Ah, Power Scaling. How we love you, even when you split our minds apart and our fanbases even further apart.
The DLC is actually locked behind the main game meaning it was always there and was supposed to be/is the actual final ending.
With that out of the way. Asura's feats are more consistent compared to Kratos's... nowhere in God of War is Kratos relatively as fast or faster than Asura whether if its through gameplay or cutscenes. Statements usually holds no ground.
Chakravartin is the source of all mantra. Once Asura killed him that was it, reason why he died, but he gets reincarnated.
The Mantra Reactor gave Asura the power to fight Chakravartin. It is fueled by Asura's rage and can pretty much hold in an infinite amount of power meaning that the longer Asura fights and gets angry, the stronger he becomes over time that's why he was easily able to overcome Chakravartin in the end and Asura showed 0 sign of fatigue.
In the end though Kratos holds no ground when it comes to Asura at his fullest when he's fought for literally thousands of years.
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Yeah I wasn't surprised by this. Kratos is just on a higher level. That said though, I think that Asura has the potential to surpass him considering the gargantuan gaps in power he's crossed before. 12k years dead, 500 years dead and beating his creator in base form when said creator dismantled his strongest form. Angrier he gets, stronger he becomes, those power boosts are permanent and massive. If Kratos doesn't put Asura down quick, the latter can get one over the former but in most cases Kratos wins.
The thing is that he would have to close a massive gap in his power boosts to beat kratos, so unless kratos is feeling mighty generous i don't see it
Well yeah like I said. In most cases Kratos wins, Kratos can put Asura down quick. If he slacks around too much, Asura is capable of surpassing him for the reasons I said above. I could see Norse Kratos maybe going easy given his temperament. Greek obviously wouldn't be so merciful.@@sator2766
Well the issue with that argument is that no quantifiable power boost can close the gap between the two. Since Kratos scales to 5D which is something 90% of powerscalers who are involved with Kratos scaling agree upon, he is beyond infinitely stronger than anyone who is 4D and even more so to 3D characters. Dimensional scaling is wack since a character even being just 1 dimension higher in AP makes them beyond infinitely stronger.
There “if” arguments are completely moot
It was 12000 years he was dead Asura is roughly 2 million years old.
Each cycle of vlitra is roughly 12500 years.
At the start of the game it states 160 something cycles do the math it’s about 2 million years old
The spider in naraka states when asura asks how long he’s been dead states it’s been 12000 years but that nothing in the lifespan of a Demi god like yourself
Asura VS Kratos Is Happening! Who Here After Among Us VS Fall Guys? 😅👍🏻
Cant wait to see Dante and Doomslayer's video
I also really want to see how high Gojo will put them.
@@S3rp3nte Nice joke, clown. Dante and Doom Slayer negs.
Both are Goated tbh
Indeed!!
Say what you will about either, but you can’t disagree that there might be a possibility that these two could be ancestors of Doomguy.
Great vid, man.
Don’t be afraid to branch out to other franchises for other vids, I’m sure they’d do great.
6:48 Why does Helios scale to star level? Why does the Greek world's sun scale to our sun when it literally fell to Earth in God of War: Chains of Olympus, and this fact was mentioned in the Valhalla DLC? So, the sun in the Greek world smaller than Earth so you can't scale it to a real star that is billions of time larger.
7:56 The term "immeasurable in magnitude" implies that something is beyond measurement or quantification, but it doesn't necessarily mean infinite in size. Similarly, expressions like "endless sky" or "infinite sky" are often used metaphorically to convey a sense of vastness and boundlessness rather than a literal infinite size. Language often employs figurative expressions to evoke emotions or convey abstract concepts.Ariel's statement doesn't explicitly mention anything being infinite.
Also Altas Does not hold up the underworld its located below him.
10:15 how did you get calculations for their speed without a specified time frame. The narration mentioning the Primordals battle lasting "an eternality" leaves the feat's duration unclear, possibly spanning billions even trillions of years.?
10:38 Steven Caterson, the producer, isn't involved in the creation process of God of War. He wasn't aware of characters other than Hermes dodging Helios' light so I fail to see how this is vaild proof when the question was loaded. Helios illuminated the underworld with his entire body and the sun chariot. I doubt his severed head's light being equal without concrete proof.
I can answer most/all of these if you're interested?
For your first point. He scales to star level cause he embodies and is as strong as the sun. Also the sun being contained in the underworld just upscales the sheer size of it.
Your second point is dismissed via hitchen's razor and false equivalence. How we portray infinity is not the same as in gow when it's explicitly clear cut and consistent that the underworld is infinite and so are both the cosmos and even Gaia as confirmed in the novels. So the burden is on you to prove it's hyperbole.
The Primordials fighting might have been eternal, but the CREATION of the universe was in an instant so what you did was straw man the Eternity part.
He's still vital to Gow and you conceding to him acknowledging Hermes dodging said light already goes against your argument. Helios in literally EVERY scene we see him in uses his head, not his body. His head illuminated the underworld. Even ignoring this part, a fraction of infinity is still infinity. Helio's light at all covering the underworld makes his light infinite speed cause it covered infinity in a finite time.
@redking8243 thanks for the reply.
1.)The narration mentions that the sun falls to the earth before entering the underworld. Applying Occam's razor suggests the simplest solution: the sun is pulled by small chariots and can fall to the earth without causing harm to the earth, considering it's smaller than the earth. It's important to clarify that the earth is never depicted or stated to be infinite size.
2.)Your argument involves an appeal to ignorance fallacy. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and your only evidence consists of statements that are not necessary. "Immeasurable in magnitude" and "infinite sky" are not literal statements. If you insist they are literal, the burden of proof lies with you.
Also the underworld is located below atlas so regardless he doesn't lift that up.
3.)The cut scene did not play out in real-time. If it had, it would mean that the entire God Titan war happened in an instant, contradicting the depiction of the war in God of War 2.
4.)The question he asked was loaded, containing untrue assumptions, making it invalid. Unless you believe trick questions are vaild.
Additionally, he wasn't aware that other characters in the game could dodge Helios's light. What makes his statement reliable? Simply citing his work with the development team isn't enough; asking the janitor the same question would be just as valid using that logic.
And regarding Helios, in God of War: Chains of Olympus, his sun chariot lit up the underworld when taken into the world. Scaling the light of his severed head to the light of his entire body plus the literal sun doesn't make sense
@@marraytaleus6598 Np.
The context would refer to the main entry from earth to the underworld. The chariots being small is not relevant given that small Gods inverse can destroy giant titans. Occam's Razor entails actually that the simplest solution is that the earth can withstand the sun's heat. Also the Gow novels (secondary canon) confirm Gaia is indeed infinite.
Not how it works. You asserted they were not literal and used an argument from real life to support it. I placed the burden on you first to prove it was metaphorical and you also just made a claim again they aren't literal yet nothing substantiates that. The standards in powerscaling is that the statement of a thing's size is literal unless proven otherwise. Also I never said anything about Atlas holding the underworld.
That's doesn't sequitur into itself. How does the Titans fighting on earth go against the visuals of The Primordials fighting? Even then the gods were well after the Primordials fighting AND ascension was way after the PS2 era so how you think the 2 connect is beyond me.
Of course the fan asked the questions. He wanted confirmation which he got. The point was to confirm Hermes dodging Helio's light was real and can't be argued as a gameplay mechanic.
Why would him not being aware of others dodging said light debunk the question is the better question. That's another non sequitur where the argument doesn't align with your conclusion and unless you have proof a janitor works on a game in anyway, that's another false equivalence.
His chariot =\= his body. Again, we literally see the head lighting up the entire area he's in in gow3 and I already explained how it makes sense. It's still a speed feat to begin with.
@@redking8243 1.)The explanation doesn't make any sense. Are you saying there's an entrance to the underworld on Earth, larger than the Earth itself? For this to be possible, the sun would need to be smaller than the Earth. Yes, you mentioned that the novel claims Gaia is infinite in size, but I have both novels and can't find any statement supporting this anywhere.
2.)"I didn't make that up. Ask anyone familiar with writing or the English language. Even if you ask ChatGPT, the response would be the same. 'Immeasurable in magnitude' doesn't mean infinite in size, and 'infinite sky' is a common expression in writing.
Also, the burden of proof doesn't fall on me; you can't prove a negative. What you're demanding is as logically possible as creating a square triangle. If a statement was meant to be interpreted literally, it would be easy to prove, but in your scenario, there's no concrete proof, which is why you're trying to shift the burden of proof onto me in the first place
3.) My point is that your assumption is based on a cut scene that is not playing out in real time. The primordials are shown creating the universe in the instant. Zeus is shown defeating the titans in an instant, and the world is shown being created in an instant. This is obviously not the time span it played out.
4.)The question contains a false assumption. It is structured in a way to trick someone into agreeing with something that isn't true. do you see these types of questions as legitimate because they're not seen as valid by our court system for a reason.
This is false. Go back and actually watch play-through of God of war 3 Kratos doesn't acquire Helio's head until after he kills Hades and makes his way out of the underworld.
Helios lighting up the underworld is something that happened in god of war chain of Olympus when his entire body and his sun chairs was taken into the underworld. there is no proof that Helios head alone can actually do this.
Not sure if you've watch either Amphibia or Owl House or both, but I was wondering if you could do a video on Anne Boonchuy vs. Luz Noceda in the future.
Great vid dude, keep it up
How powerful would Chuck Norris be in a power level comparison?
Infinitely Boundless... :)
Chuck > 93% of all verses
Goji chronicle i love ur videos u need to make a video covering heisei vs monsterverse please im liked and subbed i would love to see u make that
I know this is probably a long shot but would you be able to scale the last Dragonborn to characters like these two? Just a suggestion since elder scrolls power scaling is pretty nuts for being a fantasy setting
Dragonborn may be more powerful than both.
@@tomchuur6431 in the same boat as you, funny to think a Bethesda protagonist is one of the most powerful beings in fiction.
@@nukedpyro it isn't funny to me. It's actually astonishing to me how powerful the Dragonborn is. I didn't feel that powerful playing the game, but the lore implies otherwise, and to me, it's fuckin nuts
Dragonbron at a lowball is infinite x infinite 1s
Dragonborn is so stronge hé lag the game 🗿
damn W take not gonna lie my guy, you just earned a new subscriber
The comparison is not fair, Asura only has one story that we know of, its better to compare Asura with Kratos in first God of war Game, Albeit if Asura will have a continuation, this comparison would change.
why should your suggestion be fairer? you want to take a kratos that is not today's kratos. But you put him against an asura who is the current asura, which means that until a new game or new lore appears, the asura is in with his best values. If you follow your logic you could also say you take Kratos out of the 100th game, it could be that a 100th game appears where Kratos takes part. umd this kratis is theoretically stronger than the current kratos. should, could, would.
The amount of asura fans that are mad in this comment section is crazy
I think the low multiverse or multiverse is pretty good scaling
For kratos no
Kratos is building lv in god of war games.
Some future matchups that would be fun to see is kratos vs dante and asura vs Adam
Asura is just stronger than Kratos in every way, period. Kratos uses and relies on weapons and tools that were made by gods that are either on the same level as Kratos, slightly stronger than Kratos or far weaker than Kratos. Asura doesn't need to use weapons to kill gods that are theoretically and physically stronger than himself because his rage is just that strong, not to mention that everytime Asura dies he's soul is transported to Naraka and his body is almost indestructible and he can theoretically come back to life an indefinite number of times. Even if Kratos could get past the whole Naraka resurrection thing that Asura has going on, he'd still have to contend with Asura's strangth and rage/wraith triggers which is enough to kill gods that range from planetary to omniversal. Kratos just isn't going to win.
Bro what he's still strong af without it
Asura defeated chakravartin in nirvana.
Don’t be dumb Asura has way better feats that kratos can ever perform
Prove nirvana is that impressive in asura
Nobody says kratos is strong cause feats present in game
People say he's strong cause he kills gods and would be a god himself
That's it, It's a narrative based argument mostly related to myths
Gow scaling has nothing to do with gow games
@@DragonBallsolosyourverse so it’s just made up stuff that you can exaggerate as much as you like without supplying any evidence?
Is that how scaling works to you?
Alot of it just goes off myth
Or just arguing tropes, it's not that hard to find people doing this ether just look at some yt shorts as example
@@DragonBallsolosyourverse exactly right but there is so much more evidence that exists that completely debunks them.
But they refuse that evidence stating that their evidence is more prevalent than what is stated in the games or books or by devs
Just thought of an interesting power scaling match up for you, Goji-Chronic:
Ed from Ed Edd n' Eddy vs. Muscle Man from Regular Show
The eds broke reality. Enough said
Ignoring any bias and just looking at the clips shown in this video
Its pretty clear asura's wrath.
Guess Goku lose to saitama cause we never sée him destroy anything bigger than a Galaxy
In terms of feats
The dragon ball verse is superior
Freeza legit flicked away planets.
God of War 1 ares fight 😂 nuff said
Well, if you bring Destructor Form in this fight, Asura can literally do the ' STANDING HERE I REALIZE ' to Kratos through every planets, every suns, every moons, everything at the speed that he's going. So, the fight needs to be planets and suns being thrown about, making galaxies dissappear like Death Battle's Hulk vs Broly.
Could you make a video about whether or not Kratos could beat the Scarlett king from scp
He can't.
Kratos vs sun wukong pls
Sun wukong and it's not close.
Sun wukong whoops kratos
And this is without accounting hax. He just has too much for asura to handle
Even base God of war 1 Kratos has some crazy hax
For example : Medusa's head
@@CHAOS_FR600 wow Asura is
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Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality.
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Existence Erasure Resistance: Asura could easily resist Chakravartin's Reality Warping and Existence Erasure and even defeated Chakravartin The Creator who could control all aspects of reality itself
This includes every superpower period including petrify
Unlimited Mode (Trikaya)
When Asura activates this mode, the markings on his body emanate a bright orange light due to the Mantra flowing through his body. While in this state, Asura becomes invulnerable to any kind of attack or damage, his strength and power are augmented, and his stamina is virtually unlimited, which prevents him from overheating. In game this lasts a short time, but during the final fights with Yasha and Chakravartin he is in this form almost indefinitely.
So Asura is completely invulnerable
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@@Devilchyldekratos can travel through time itself and erase Asura
@@sparta-zh7yk kratos needs the loom chamber on the island of creation in order to travel time. Without it he can’t.
Quote Asura
Existence Erasure Resistance: Asura could easily resist Chakravartin's Reality Warping and Existence Erasure and even defeated Chakravartin The Creator who could control all aspects of reality itself.
So no he can’t even erasure Asura who is stated and shown in game to be immune to it.
If there’s one thing that people kinda forget about asura. It’s that he will slowly get stronger as the fight goes on.
Remember the seven deities became way more stronger than the 8 guardian generals.
Like the first fight with a resurrected asura and wyzen. Though in his base form he was able to beat wyzen, but when wyzen took on his second transformation, he had a lot more trouble. Till he said something about asuras daughter, then he was able to match his power and surpass his second form. And was able to do the same thing, when wyzen went into his 3rd form, but lost all his arms in the process. Let’s also mention that wyzen was the weakest out of all the deities.
And in the final fight, people also forget that asura was returned to his resurrected base form, without the power amp given to him by Yasha. When the fight went on, asura was able to not only match the creator but also defeat him.
So in short, the longer the fight goes on, the more it’s in asuras favor.
I also feel like people never bring up the time he fought an entire horde of gohma with a broken blade, no arms, and defeated the entire army with a rage induce energy fist.
Im still grasping the concept of the scales but I do feel the purposiveness of such classifications. Cheers mate, I've learned something new today.
That roast on Death Battle though 😂
I watched the entire video, where did he roast Death Battle?
@@NexusGaming857 At the Omni man vs homelander I think
The force required to physically destroy Earth and break it apart into pieces would be immense. Earth's gravitational binding energy, which is the minimum energy required to disassemble the planet, is estimated to be about 2.24 × 10^32 joules
The feat including tyr‘s temple is a big one. It weighs 1774000 tons. Cory Barlog tweeted that, when asked about it
Now, mathematically, guess who is stronger? Not kratos, so you can fanboi or cope all you want. He gets one shot. The gods in gow must be pretty weak too.
Why is the temple feat Kratos's greatest feat when characters he's fought has been able to crack the world tree a 5D construct?
@@Jsipki265 world tree is not a 5d construct. Once again thats you people playing pretend. 5d would be transcendent beyond time and space with no body. He clearly has a body. Even in lore its a literal tree with branches that lead to other dimensions and an actual location with the serpent constantly eating at it. Feel free to do the math but the amount of force is likely less. The whole punching through a world is literally billions of tons of force or juels being more accurate. He is strong but not that strong and in all the cannon games and lore he never reaches those points even with weapons. Killing 'gods' just means you killed someone with a fancy title. A real god who actually is the 'creator' would just wave a hand at Kratos. Even against Ares its just a kaiju fight at most.
@@Jsipki265 To conclude, if you guys want to 'compare' characters from games or anime you go off feats not headcannon. Hell even the slayer was stopped by having a temple dropped on him. You think a god coulnlt just do that and go 'oh well good enough'
@emm6101 Ratatorskr literally said the destruction of the world tree means the destruction of the Norse verse both when garm was released and when retrieving the babies of the creature you killed w freya. Even in GOW 2018 the strains of the branches were said to transcend space and time so yes it’s 5D.
@emm6101 Not headcanon when the characters are able to affect their cosmology through lore and feats.
You can even argue that Kratos scales to 7d , since the well of destiny which exists in Midgard was stated to contain an infinite amount of timelines and possibilities which can be argued to be 5d then you got the realm between the realms which was also stated to transcend everything within the realms which would make it 6d and Yggdrasil transcending everything that exists makes it 7d and Kratos basically scales to it and that's not even his high end , in Ragnarok he basically confirmed his appearance in PS all stars battles which was also confirmed by the Devs to poke fun of Playstation, and since technically you could use that as an argument to put in probably high outer since ps all stars Kratos waa capable of defeating polygon man who not only can mess up with the game's script but is also the embodiment of playstation itself which means that he transcends every verse that exists on the platform, but again this is if wanna get really wacky with his Gow scaling
All of this isn't even needed against Asura tbh.
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Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality.
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Chakravartin who created the Wheel of life a cycle that embodies an infinite number of universes. The Wheel of Life 'Cycle of Rebirth encompasses the concepts of life, death, destruction, creation, death and rebirth across an infinite number of universes
Mantra can allow him to overcome impossible odds and be able to adapt and evolve to any opponent regardless of their power and Higher-Dimensionality
Defeated Chakravartin who stated that he held all of existence in the palm of his hands. with the Mantra Reactor his strength has no dimensional boundaries…
No debate Asura slams
How is kratos even close to high outter nothing in PlayStations is close to high outter polygon man is only multiversal
@@Devilchylde1- nobody meantioned polygen amn
2- GOW have a higher cosmolgy
3- creating a universe make you universal, so Asura is high universal not outversal
@@sparta-zh7yk creating a fiction before universe was even created makes you outterversal because you exist without a universe exist in meaning outside the universe.
God of wars cosmology
Google Kotaku what’s next for god if war
Interview with Corey barlog
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Barlog: Oh, totally. I’ve always looked at this universe like our world. The geography separates the cultural mythologies. The cultural mythologies are stories of the zero-point to present day.
These are the birth and the origin of these cultures. So the Norse mythology exists in Scandinavia, and simultaneously, across the world, the Mayan mythology has its origins, right? These are cultural stories about how they explain the birth of their cultures. And I think, as I look at the whole world, that each of these gods had their own domains, right? The way that countries had their own domains…
Domains on a planet like our own
2nd quote same interview
Barlog: Right [laughs]. But yeah, it is a consistent single universe. As we start to look at these things, there’s little bits, here and there, that let you know. Like, Tyr, had connections to a lot of other pantheons. And there is reference, in Norse mythology, of gods interacting with Roman gods
So god of war is 1 universe.
Asuras has quote
Chakravartin who created the Wheel of life a cycle that embodies an infinite number of universes. The Wheel of Life 'Cycle of Rebirth encompasses the concepts of life, death, destruction, creation, death and rebirth across an infinite number of universes
Has an infinite amount.
Asura beat chakravartin in nirvana the same place sunwukong transcends to.
We have the physical universe
An event horizon and naraka
All universes.
Outterversal doesn’t even need a big cosmology as long as you can exist beyond time and space you qualify.
Quote Multiversology tiering system
1A
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However, do note that characters can qualify for this tier even if the fictional verse they belong to does not consist of an infinite set of higher dimensions and/or sizes, as long as they themselves bypasses the concepts of space and time in a way that simply "stacking" more dimensions[1] logically would not allow one to reach their level of power/size.
Regardless of of the amount of dimensions….
Quote Corey barlog again
Long-time director of the franchise Cory Barlog explained that the mythological pantheons on the Earth of God of War are similar to the
Hubble Ultra-Deep Field
, which shows hundreds of individual galaxies. In the analogy, each galaxy represents a particular pantheon from all the mythologies of the world and these "galaxies" are wrapped around the planet. That's how they simultaneously exist with their own belief systems and creation/destruction stories, while still being separated by geography like normal regions of the world
Separated by geography meaning land and oceans.
Quote him again
Cory Barlog stating that the space separating Midgard and Olympus is literally the distance between Greece and Scandinavia[14] implies much shorter distances.
So the entirety of gif of war happens on the same planet.
Making the cosmology irrelevant to kratos scaling because he is still on 1 planet and has only affected 2 domains.
Asura blows up hundreds of planets casually and fights chakravartin beyond time and space.
@@Devilchylde "creating fiction" bruh the entire game is fictional💀
Je crois que c'est dit dans God of War 1 ou 2 (je sais plus) que Kratos est au-dessus des lois de la physique.
He is, with the icarus wings. Just look up icarus jump, and you can find the scan stating this.
Heres a battle recommendation. How about Metro Man(Megamind) vs All Might(My Hero Academia). These two are very heroic figures but in completely different ways and i think this would make for a good debate as the two characters also have similar ranges of power.
They dont honnestly
Métro man best feat is destroying a wall
Metro man casually moved so fast that time essentially froze.
Do video about how kratos is stronger with power of hope 😮
Honnestly never understand when power of Hope Come from
I played the games and dont remember it
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch kratos use power of hope to deafet zeus power of fear and this power can give power to kratos to kill anyone easily
@@Mr.sigma3044 ohh that thing ok thanks
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch 👍
@@Mr.sigma3044 only in his VRs. Any reality warper can rewrite hope to mean failure and what kratos fail at everything he does
I'm no further than you talking about Kratos vs Helios and how Helios is the Sun, and I can already tell you about to give this to Kratos.
Kratos has more games. He has more lore. He has more screen time and development. He's the fan favorite; we spent more time with him. We get it. And even if we add alllllllll of Kratos' feats together, they'd still pale in comparison to Asura's one fight against that fat dude who Facebook poked Earth. You said he was planetary in size....no young man, his FINGER was planetary in size lol.
The "Helios has the power of the Sun" is beyond silly too (no disrespect). Helios has the power of Earth's Sun, that's cute when in the same video you show Asura defeating the final boss of his dlc and that god's so massive he's got several galaxies floating around him that're the size of birds compared to him. For reference sake, NASA says there's well over 100 million stars/suns in our Milky Way Galaxy alone..........buddy Asura defeated could've ate the galaxies swarming him like snacks, and Kratos vs Helios was supposed to be impressive next to that? 😂😂🤔
Kratos is the fan favorite, we get it. But Kratos would need every buff, power up, artifact, and pantheon from every realm he's been to to help him fight off one of Asura's farts, let's be real here lol
" lets bé Real here " ignoring the whole kratos lore and go into Helios scaling that was made for speed and not power
" Helios GOT the power of the Sun of earth " no hé also have the power of the sun of hell aka Infinite size ? You beating yourself
Titans punche créat the universe and kratos beat in the second game
That alone matche asura best feats
People like you ignor everything about lore and go to gammeplay to Say asura win is sad
Kratos no diffs that bum stop embarrassing ya self lmaoooooo
It seems you just covered your ears and went “lalalala” through the entioof kratos’s part
Asura defeats kratos debate me if you dare.
finish the video at least
I am excited for Kratos VS Dante but Dante will stomp because mirage swords both Vergil and Dante can summon are made out of souls and souls in that universe are 9d so they scale to it and Kratos is max 5d so...
elaborate on the "9D" aspect since from what I've seen, its not in any of the lore in the games except for the Chinese mobile version that stated as such despite it being removed in a later patch of the game... plus any elaboration on said '9D'
seriously this whole Dimensional tiering is such convoluted nonsense...
its better to stick to terms such as 'outerversal' since that's easier to follow along and there's various factors to a character that can be outerversal or whatever else
Nothing and I mean NOTHING is 9D in devil may cry nice try you’re a casual 💯
@@EchoDragonHawk still didn't get an elaboration from him...
DMC is 6D at best
Since the novels are not canon, Kratos gets dogwalked.
Well, a lot people just underrated Asura pretty much, and overestimate Kratos. Let's start with Kratos, he is stronger than Uranus, who created the universe, including many bodies of universal size and the space-time continuum (this is probably the best thing that Kratos showed). The Temple of Tyr was created by mortals after the existence of the nine worlds. The Temple of Tyr does not contain the 9 worlds, it is in them, and this is what Mimir means when he says that he is rooted in all the worlds. Freya claims that the tree inside the Temple of Tyr is just an image of Yggdrasil and is not even a real tree, meaning that it is not infinite. There is no Yggdrasil in the Temple of Tyr. That's why Kratos never raised or damaged the 9 Multiverses or anything like that. The Temple of Tyr is used as a portal-gate rather than a door, and does not contain the 9 worlds. For the Temple of Tyr to truly contain 9 worlds, the Temple of Tyr would have to be the only way to cross the worlds, however in Ragnarok Mimir states that Odin sent enemies through the worlds using the sky. Again, Kratos cannot raise 9 Multiverses, this is nonsense and contradicts everything that is shown in the games. Kratos is not physically stronger than Atlas, if someone thinks that slightly moving the fingers of Atlas, who did not even really try to kill Kratos, proves that Kratos is Stronger than Atlas? Of course not, this is nonsense. Kratos did not defeat death and did not become death himself, although Thanatos was in space beyond dimensions, there is no indication that Thanatos himself is at such a level, the sphere of death, as mentioned, transcends dimensions, but is still only located within Greek mythology , which is a direct contradiction since Greek mythology itself is a dimension, but probably implies a pocket dimension. Kingdoms of infinite size in any mythology are infinite only in relation to their mythology (for example Yggdrasil). The 9 worlds aren't universes, they're different planets, so yes, GOW doesn't just take place on Earth and in dimensions on Earth, but it's still the main location. About Jormungandr the World Serpent and Atlas, who raises the heavens. To everyone who wants to say that Jormungandr flew around the whole world, no, this is not true, even in GOW Kratos said that this is just an exaggeration. Well, Kratos’ speed is infinite only potentially; traveling through an infinite world does not mean that you have infinite speed; the Uroborus amulet only affects objects, and not something living. So he was not ahead of time (because Kratos cannot overtake time, which means he is not faster than infinity), but in principle it is possible to prove Kratos' infinite speed, for example, Atropos has infinite speed, and Kratos killed her by making his speed infinite. The Underworld, although there are reasons for the fact that it is infinite, is still implied to be infinite, and the light that covered the entire underworld has infinite speed, Hercules evaded such light, and Kratos does not lag behind it. Because yes, Kratos can, in principle, have infinite speed. Now Asura, I’ll say right away that Asuri has immunity to the manipulation of reality, time, space, soul and mind, therefore he does not need all the most powerful artifacts of Kratos, only protective artifacts and artifacts with additional damage to the enemy or increasing one’s own powers are useful: for example, manipulation ice, fire, water, lightning, creating explosions from souls, etc. Everything else will not help Kratos, but what is there will help prolong the fight. As for Asuri's powers, the list of his abilities is as follows: Regeneration, Energy Manipulation, Invulnerability, Pain Tolerance, Resurrection, Resistance to Existence Erasure, Resistance to Soul Manipulation, Resistance to Time Manipulation, Resistance to Petrification, Resistance to Fate Manipulation and Plot Manipulation, Resistance to Time Manipulation, Durability Denial . Also, Asura himself can Manipulate the soul. In a word, Asura calmly ignores all of Kratos’ most powerful abilities. Asura defeated Chakravartin, Chakravartin is the almighty God who created the whole world. Chakravartin created Naraku, the limitless world between life and death. Chakravartin also created many worlds (universes), in a word, he created the Multiverse (other Universes can be seen in the battle between Chakravartin and Asuri). If it seems to you that Chakravarti is only at the universal level, then this is not so, we have Gokhma Vlitra. He is stated to have limitless power both in the game and in the lore. The game clearly states that Vlitri’s level of power is incommensurable and limitless, which already puts her at the Highest Universal level. But Vlitra is only the creation of Chakravartin, Chakravartin cannot beat on the same level with his creation. Chakravartin himself stated that he created many worlds/universes that form the Multiverse, with the space of Naraka, that exist between life and death, while he is able to create the purpose of change by force of will. Asura moved in stopped time, making his speed infinite. Asura shattered reality and destroyed Naraka (infinite dimension). Kratos is maximum at the Multiverse level, Asura at the same level is possibly Multiverse+. Both at infinite speed. But Asura will constantly become stronger, so Kratos will not be able to win. The battle will not be easy, but Asura will defeat Kratos.
honest truth Asura is stronger, in the end he was one shotting planets. Never seen Kratos come close and thats pretty much game. Also Kratos has never fought for years on end etc.
Never Seen kratos comme close ? Sure buddy
This tells me everything i need to know.
Kratos bodied Zeus in Gow 2 who defeated cronos while far younger and weaker who birthed all time and said cronos defeated his Primordial father who birthed the entire infinite universe by just getting punched and he still had more energy in his body. I could bring up a lot more but this is sufficient evidence to prove Kratos is far higher than planetary.
@@redking8243 Yet never done it once, proving he isnt. And all the fights in the god of war series are not planetary. Not a single one.
@@redking8243 In fact, even zeus is barely past mortal and Ares is just a big dude.. name a single planetary feat in god of war.
@@redking8243 ruclips.net/video/6aOpa15szaQ/видео.html
The older version of kratos is stronger then the younger version
No
@@BaustisaRuiz it is Corey already said it
@@kidink-_3782 no
@@kidink-_3782he also said gods get stronger as they get older
So older kratos should be stronger than yong kratos by normal sensé
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch so kratos getting stronger debunks kratos having infinite strength Asura wins
they don't know how to scale first let's talk about basic asura scaling first asura fight wyzen who in his final form dwarfs the planet in size and asura easily defeat wyzen we also know he is the weakest out of all the deities so all the other deities could be scaled to planetary as we see with August we know that his sword as able to go through the planet asura brakes this sword and kills August with his own blade we also see this with deus fuses with the karma fortress creating Sakura Devanm lndra deus asura and yahshua fly towards the brahmastra deus tries to use the hand brahmastra to clap them both which actually has been calc to 33.881 nia tons of tnt or large planet level at a lowball or dwarf star -level at a highball I could go into more but let's talk about chakravartin first we know that asura is bigger than the planet in his destructive form first we know chakravartin has multiple Stars solar system and galaxies around him and his avatars as big as the Milky Way first has been confirmed that chakravartin has destroyed and recreated multiple universes putting multiversal if you don't want to say he's multiversal you could just put them a higher universal now let's get to the crazy stuff it's there now let's talk about asura outerversal first asura scales to chakravartin chakravartin being the person who created two endless size space-time continuum's or universes there are 2 Nirvana's the main universe and chakravartin therefore also would be multiversal or infinitely 4D this isn't even the strongest version we see of chakravartin who appears at the end of the same chakravartin is seen as omnipotent do take this as a grain of salt omnipotent or all-powerful could just mean all powerful but the statement is still there after asura defeats the gohma vlitra then asurawill be betrayed by the seven demigods and be thrown in the Nirvana\Naraka Nirvana within Buddhism and hindu mythology is a place of torment within the six realms of samsara samsara or Nirvana being the endless cycle of life and death and rebirth with the karmic cycle this will be consistent seeing how it's stated multiple times in the cutscenes that chakravartin did in fact create Nirvana with chakravartin being a literal representation of parapratman within buddhist and saint chris religion and mythology we can say chakravartin in his creator form what's able to create all samsara the main universe and the horizon what this he be outerversal as one who surpasses the citizen of samsara one reaches the state of atman from Hindu philosophy the Hindu concept of self-realization which a universal self which is beyond identification with concepts such as non-dualism and dualism the ultimate reality brahman and being called venepeda which is non dualism and dualism this state-of ottman is brahman being a diva spawn from avolokltwshvra in a sutea and or is commonly known as a guinepqd brahman being the ultimate reality beyond concption comprehension and identification this would be outerversal being beyond concepts such as dualism and identification which multiple concepts such as space and time are bound by would scale to this space and time being the fundamental nature aspects of all forms of dimensionality furthermore this type of dualism or Buddhism is referring to taoism is more closely related to Eastern Taoism which is a separate form of Western theological dualism that was the natural order the universe differ from dualism dualism the philosophy where similar opposing concepts and or opposing concepts are a constant state of balance so in conclusion asura in base is outerversal Asura win this and I love kratos
Do you even know how to scale?
For the mast time GOW cosmolgy is way bigger, and Asura is high universal, heck do you even have evidence?
@@sparta-zh7yk this just proves you know nothing about Asura and that's okay
@@Young_mir this is just proving you know nothing about Kratos, and that's ok
@@sparta-zh7yk I know more about kratos that's crazy
@@Young_mir "i know more about Kratos cause my username is godofwar"
“Statements shouldn’t count for powerscaling” mfs when I tell them that Goku and Beerus’ clash punch is therefore planet level:
Isnt Charkravartin Power superior then Power of Hope ?
Obviously. AW caps at uni. The verse is barely on the level of Uranus let alone Kratos
Ratatoskr is enough Ngl
You both wrong.
Let’s look at asuras cosmology
Quote asuras wrath the official complete works
Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality.
continuum
On par with base Chakravartin who created the Wheel of life a cycle that embodies an infinite number of universes. The Wheel of Life 'Cycle of Rebirth encompasses the concepts of life, death, destruction, creation, death and rebirth across an infinite number of universes
Infinite.
We have the event horizon that’s another universe
We have naraka another universes
So how does Asura cap at uni?
Quote god of war interview with Corey barlog
Kotaku what’s next for gif of war.
Barlog: Oh, totally. I’ve always looked at this universe like our world. The geography separates the cultural mythologies. The cultural mythologies are stories of the zero-point to present day.
These are the birth and the origin of these cultures. So the Norse mythology exists in Scandinavia, and simultaneously, across the world, the Mayan mythology has its origins, right? These are cultural stories about how they explain the birth of their cultures. And I think, as I look at the whole world, that each of these gods had their own domains, right? The way that countries had their own domains
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Barlog: Right [laughs]. But yeah, it is a consistent single universe. As we start to look at these things, there’s little bits, here and there, that let you know. Like, Tyr, had connections to a lot of other pantheons. And there is reference, in Norse mythology, of gods interacting with Roman gods
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Barlog: Right [laughs]. But yeah, it is a consistent single universe. As we start to look at these things, there’s little bits, here and there, that let you know. Like, Tyr, had connections to a lot of other pantheons. And there is reference, in Norse mythology, of gods interacting with Roman gods
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Cory Barlog stating that the space separating Midgard and Olympus is literally the distance between Greece and Scandinavia[14] implies much shorter distances.
Kratos continental
Confirmed by Corey barlog himself
Asura defeated an outterversal solo creator of his existence.
Uranus only created Greece he has nothing to do with Norse.
So stop the cap fangirl
@@CHAOS_FR600 does ragnarok have any cosmic feats ? Lol
@@Devilchylde yeah lol
He scales above Surtr who created all the stars
@@DevilchyldeCory's statement gets shitcanned by the GOW 1 novel😂. Source material> authors. Get on disc if you want the scans mine is in my bio while ur at it send ur asura scans as well.
Kratos is one shotting
Kratos can’t one shot buldar cos of his invulnerability
Asura quote
Unlimited Mode (Trikaya)
When Asura activates this mode, the markings on his body emanate a bright orange light due to the Mantra flowing through his body. While in this state, Asura becomes invulnerable to any kind of attack or damage, his strength and power are augmented, and his stamina is virtually unlimited, which prevents him from overheating. In game this lasts a short time, but during the final fights with Yasha and Chakravartin he is in this form almost indefinitely.
Sorry but Asura destroys kratos
@@Devilchylde your argument is very no limit fallacy, Kratos has shown feats that are infinitely above asura, Kratos would one shot your favorite character, sorry.
@@mohamedbinishaq3169 kratos definitely cooks that’s bum lmaoooo
Look at these kratos meat rider s😂
@@mohamedbinishaq3169you're ass must hurt taking all that kratos meat😂
Kratos wins
Nah.
Kratos slaughters + negs the verse
@@redking8243I know
@@TheRealVyke lol doesnt kratos need a bifrost to travel dimensions?
Or a unity stone.
Kratos himself have any cosmic feats?
Asura can existences erasure. Doesn’t kratos get erased if he jumps off the tree unprotected?
How does kratos fair against invulnerability like buldar?
Asura is invulnerable by the end of the game.
Question you think kratos has bigger scaling right?
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Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality.
Care to compare?
@@Devilchyldehmm, interesting. Source? Or are you just gonna run away like the last guy I asked for a source on this topic?
@@TheRealVyke sure.
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These aren’t my opinion.
Asuras wrath the official complete works.
It’s also given visual interpretation in game.
Example in every instance prior to gaining h the mantra core reactor asuras base arms get destroyed with his construct arms.
While fighting chakravartin only the construct arms get destroyed around his base arms his base form is completely fine.
Asura in game has a mode that you can active to become temporarily invulnerable.
In the final fight this is activated permanently.
Forms.
You can look this up on every wiki fandom comic vines or the book itself.
They all state the exact same thing word for word.
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Unlimited Mode (Trikaya)
When Asura activates this mode, the markings on his body emanate a bright orange light due to the Mantra flowing through his body. While in this state, Asura becomes invulnerable to any kind of attack or damage, his strength and power are augmented, and his stamina is virtually unlimited, which prevents him from overheating. In game this lasts a short time, but during the final fights with Yasha and Chakravartin he is in this form almost indefinitely
Invulnerable.
It’s his firm at the end of the game.
No weakness this is further suppported with this statement.
Existence Erasure Resistance: Asura could easily resist Chakravartin's Reality Warping and Existence Erasure and even defeated Chakravartin The Creator who could control all aspects of reality itself.
Reality warping encompasses every superpower ability manipulation that exists.
Being immune to all aspects of reality warping makes you literally invulnerable to everything.
Chakravartin being an omnipotent reality warper makes him do any feat imaginable.
This is also confirmed with this statement.
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As the original creator and source of Mantra, as well as the God of Mantra and "Spinner of Mantra", Chakravartin has absolute control over all the Mantra in the Universe. Through the absolute and complete manipulation of Mantra, Chakravartin is shown to be capable of accomplishing virtually any feat imaginable without any sort of effort required.
Omnipotence means being power incarnate and the ability to do everything imaginable.
This is due to god like levels of reality warping
Search reality warping superpowers to see everything asura is immune to.
So Asura is invulnerable at the end of the game.
Watch the key to victory asuras wrath.
Asura gains all 8 laws that govern his existence.
All & laws encompass every concept in asuras existence.
Reactive evolution.
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Mantra can allow him to overcome impossible odds and be able to adapt and evolve to any opponent regardless of their power and Higher-Dimensionality
Defeated Chakravartin who stated that he held all of existence in the palm of his hands. with the Mantra Reactor his strength has no dimensional boundaries.
Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality.
Asura's Mantra Affinity is Wrath. This signifies that Asura's strength and power are proportionate to his level of anger, rage and wrath. This plays a major role in the story, as it allows Asura to constantly build up and increase his Mantra output to what could be infinite levels the more anger he builds up. Understandably alongside his Mantra levels, his physical demigod abilities also escalate exponentially the angrier he becomes and the more wrath his Mantra of Wrath generates. Due to having a virtually infinite amount of Mantra, Asura can overcome impossible odds and adapt to any kind of power. Yasha once questioned Deus as to how Asura's Mantra levels could match those of the Seven Deities, even after accumulating over seven trillion human souls worth of Mantra to enhance their powers.
Stated in game by dues.
Asura actually has statements confirming infinite immeasurable and unlimited.
Kratos has non.
Asura has hax that enable him to counter reality warping god like beings.
Kratos has non.
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As The Destructor, all of Asura's abilities and overall power were immeasurable and god-like in status, as during his battle with the Mantra God.
Asura can one punch shatter higher planes of existence such as in his fight with chakravartin where he shatters naraka.
Chakravartin is the embodiment of life death rebirth being the wheel of life.
The only way to kill him would be to existence erasure him since he is beyond death and can simply reincarnate being the embodiment of it.
Asuras hax far exceed anything kratos can do.
Go read any stat block on Asura all of this information is copy pasted from asuras wrath the official complete works.
Can you show me any statements or feats displaying anything immeasurable or infinite regarding kratos?
Kratos sustains damage.
After a valley destruction sized battle with buldar kratos was crawling home barely able to drag his axe fatigued.
Meanwhile Asura punching planets larger than galaxies and one ounching infinite higher planes of existence in a single punch.
Against a solo creator god that can do all the feats of every being in god of war with a mere thought.
Kratos is pure hyperbole and exaggerations.
90% of his scaling is feats done by others.
100% of asuras are done by himself.
Asura has hax that far outmatch kratos. Sorry to break it to you
Do Dante vs Doomslayet next frfr. Although, I think we already know whos winning and how unfair it would be.
Great video and scaling bro
Wyzen's finger >>>> gow verse (Games only)
Asura no diffs.
*Kratos
Delusional 🤣
No diff lose😂
Kratos is debunked to continental Asura has 1 punched universes and beat Buddha in nirvana.
@@Devilchylde asura Is debunked island level kratos destroy asura
…..Kratos travels by dog sled and this is asinine.
Is there anyway I could request a Vs match? Cause I would love if someone made this match up cause in my opinion Kratos vs Dracula from Castlevania would be one hell of a matchup.
One thing you seem to get mixed up with is the primordials bc they actually created space and time during their fight
I’m smelling cap
It's all fax
@@GodzillaEditz1224 is Kratos in multi versatile level?
@@GodzillaEditz1224 no
@@serious-right-now hes high outraversal and it's fax
@@GodzillaEditz1224 it’s cap he’s not what level you just said
Asura wins and here’s why Kratos is a human and asura has a lot of arms meaning he can multitask unlike kratos meaning he scales higher then me and I am omnipotent
Kratos is a demi god, not human and Asura having multiple arms means nothing considering that kratos simultaneously killed three furies in Gow ascension and the 3 headed hydra. I hope that Last comment is a joke as well.
@@redking8243I’m not joking I am a omnipotent human being plus asura has hair meaning he has a hairline making him 10 times as stronger then kratos
@@AJJ5116 Got any proof for that?
@@redking8243 bruh I fought the world in my dreams and you know what people say dreams always come true so yeah I’m omnipotent lil bro 💀🙏
@@AJJ5116 too bad your dream was an illusion planned by me so I'm above you lil brother.
Ion dragon versus Camazotz or rodan?
Can You Do Sephiroth vs Aizen
I don’t remember kratos punching through multiple planets and suns in any of the games?
This is barely an argument in the final battle against Chakravartin. He launched a gamma ray, larger than earth to destroy everything there. If that happened to Kratos, what is he doing even if somehow by a miracle, he could take that the entire earth would be destroyed so he would just float in space for eternity.
OK, because it's called cosmology difference. How it works is that asura takes place on actual earth inside of a universe, while gow takes place inside of a Norse universe, with multiple realms and space time continnuems. Also that's like what? Planetary? Kratos is capable of lifting hyperion spear, which is the literal weight of the cosmos, and atlas hammer, the weight of the world. Also atlas lifts the heavens as stated in gow 2 Manuel, or even the world pillar reverting everything back to nothingness aka chaos if destroyed, stated by persephone, goddess of the underworld.
Womp womp kratos still loses @Nothingtoseriousfr
Death battle is doing it
I saw someone genuinely say Kratos is street tier and I was baffled.
“Fat man finger poke”💀
Couldn't asura just absorb his wrath and anger cause that dude was able surpass his much more powerful a opponents when the fight goes on. The more wrath he absorb the stronger he becomes.
He cant
He only use hes anger
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch wrong wrath anger rage frenzy all all of asuras abilities he is the gif of wrath
@@Devilchylde god * hé only get stronger by hes wrath
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch watch asuras wrath the key to victory.
He gains the mantra reactor which gives him all 8 of the laws that govern his existence which in Hindi encompasses every concept in his existence.
Stated by yasha shown in game.
He gains every concept including hope fear life death etc
Watch it for evidence
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch watch asuras wrath the key to victory
We see Asura gain wrath envy greed sloth pride vanity melancholy.
He gains all the laws that govern his existence
On another note, after you get done covering the matchups you want here. Something neat to cover would be proper scaling for the Vault Hunters of the Borderlands series. In any of the four main games.
Tbh I wanna see it like this: have asura go against kratos villains and kratos against asuras villains, what’s the outcome
You know that kratos got debunked, and only turns to be continental level, and most of those suposed feats, were made for fanboys to buffed kratos didn't you?
He got rebunked
@@GodzillaEditz1224 no he's not.
Bro he was above continental since he killed the sisters of fate and ares (ares who can create a pocket dimension with a galaxy inside) 😂
Copium. Kratos is far above continental. He’s a fucking god.
@@ForSparta3195 being a god doesn't automatically make you strong
Asura would only be a low multiversal level since he only created the universe and the Naraka, and we do not know how many universes he created.
Unrelated but it's been awhile so I was wondering if you could scale singularly point godzilla and that gabera lookalike and the anime trilogy mecha godzilla
You didn't even brought up the fact that Asura fought Ryu and Akuma.😒
What whould really happen:
Asura: sup?
Kratos: hmmm
And then they lived hapily ever after
Never cook again.
ngl i dont think kratos could fight someone tossing galaxies at him.
also asura is pretty much immortal.
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Unlimited Mode (Trikaya)
When Asura activates this mode, the markings on his body emanate a bright orange light due to the Mantra flowing through his body. While in this state, Asura becomes invulnerable to any kind of attack or damage, his strength and power are augmented, and his stamina is virtually unlimited, which prevents him from overheating. In game this lasts a short time, but during the final fights with Yasha and Chakravartin he is in this form almost indefinitely
also asura has another broken ability that works perfectly with his first one.
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Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality...
Where exactly did you get this info.
Speckles the tarbosaurus vs the buck tyrannosaurus from the lost world , would you like to do this idea
Sure l mean sura can punch planets and kratos struggles with push a statue but yeah
Kratos' strength varies greatly, sometimes it is a gameplay mechanic and sometimes it is not.
Or we could just point out the kratos is barely mountain level fodder that struggles against mortal weapons and animals and if i put a big enough block of ice in front of him there nothing kratos can do.
That game mécanique lol
Kirby can kick a star but stronger to break a tree
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch not game mechanics that happened in his books and his comics in fact it happens in the books more often than it does in the game.
@@flameshu2imao the books are when kratos was a human and in gow 2 novel he was striped of God powers and that just upscales the tree
@@GodzillaEditz1224 how would that up scale the tree and he is a demigod in all the games he is only a full god for a short time at the beginning of Gow2
@flameshu2 cause if he struggles on a tree that just upscales the tree to his strength it doesn't down scale kratos strength
Death battle is final doing it 😆
Do kratos vs real Greek/Norse mythology
I think you forgot to mention that kratos beat the sisters of fate which are primordials, so I think low multiversal would be kratos power at the minimum or at least the half
Does that mean we’ll never get to see MV Goji vs DCEU Sup ? T-T
Can You Do A Power Scaling On ROE Godzilla
bro you are comparing lore kratos to asura considering game feats of asura ......... but let me tell you chakravartin is omnipotent or atleast nai omnipotent its written in his game bio not in a fucking comic or shit ....... chakarvartin can do anything with his thought he is embodiment of wheel of life (wheel of life is connected to infinite number of universes), he can erase anything from reality with his thought ,he was casually creating infinite size dimenions and universes in his final fight with asura and asura broke those dimension and universes with just one punch and at end of game chaki and asura were fighting and moving where there was no time and space and they were fighting in a complete nothingness no reality .........characters that can move outside time and space and exist beyond the concept of reality are considered outerversal.
goji can you make senator armstrong vs scp 096 but in full rage
You should do Mario vs Sonic, but the games instead of movies
You missed on e thing ,the fact that thor hit the world serpent so hard it broke the world tree which is basicly reality so kratos is conparable to thor if not stronger because we know that he holds back in these's games so i guess we can say that kratos can crack reality itself
Damn bruh 💀
6:57 so was kratos at his strongest when he had his full god powers (beginning of god of war 2)?
Does at matter how powerful you rate kratos is quote asuras wrath
Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality.
So Asura wins
@@Devilchyldethe comment didnt even talk about kratos wining lol what wrong with you ?
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch I’m saying power doesn’t matter to Asura
Reactive Evolution: Asura possesses an ability to adapt to his opponents that allows him to surpass stronger opponents, no matter how powerful they are and regardless of their Higher-Dimensionality.
@@Devilchylde IAM saying the comment is about kratos prime and didnt said hé beat asura or anything AT all hé just asked a question about kratos yet you just had to bring asura out of nowhere
A Guy in hes 40 will not do that AT all
Expecially when you said you studie sciences
Cause it seem you didnt studie basic manners
@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch lol is that all you have to say.
Just winging about something that doesn’t involve you.
Like I need manners for a wank kratos Asura video.
I’m not here to make friends I’m here to triggger god of war fans and bury them either facts.
Just like I did to you.
Stop trying to defend people I’m sure they can speak for themselves.
And again I’m 41 get it right.
What about Asura, or Kratos vs. Sun Wukong
next video please be Gamera vs King kong
I goji chronic I just love your videos and I wanted to give some video ideas the would be really cool to watch so if you read this I would love to see these ❤😊
Kratos va Godzilla(rage across time)
Idw optimism prime be Godzilla in hell
And finally trying to figure out just how powerful composite Godzilla truly is 🦖I would love to see this thank you for reading and I love your videos and I can’t wait to see what happens next❤😊
4:41 Na-Raw-Ka(basically the realm of the human&the death universe in Buddhism/Hinduism
Not gonna lie most of your points for Kratos doesn’t make sense if he moves at immeasurable speeds then why does he die from fodder enemies in the game or even get caught by an attack by them that’ll mean every enemy is mftl and that’s certainly not true. That’s basically saying just because I caught my dog running away from me means I can run just as fast as my dog which is not true because there’s multiple ways different ways of accomplishing that feat and that’s what Kratos he just find a loophole with his enemies and defeat them he’s not out right just one shorting all them the way making it seems and he never held back the Entirety of atlas he barely held back his finger tips which is not the full force of atlas
Because it is a game and is therefore handicapped by human technology and you as a player. and it would be boring if opponents couldn't defend themselves. Also, Kratos wasn't hit by food, that only happened to you as the player. It didn't happen in that one.
"He barely held back his fingertips which is not the full force of atlas"
This is why context matters here as
1.Atlas can not only carry a multiversal structure with one hand as stated before that, but also the strongest titan.
2. It was a depowered kratos, literally obvious with the dialogue.
"It once held the godly power I once yielded, as the God of War." Like cmon, the blade of Olympus literally drained his power, and there is more evidence of kratos being stronger than atlas anyways such as Hercules during the 12 labors lifted the heavens for a day for atlas to find the golden apples, and then tricking atlas to hold the heavens again and fleeing afterwards with said apples. Also hades literally absorbing his soul, which makes him blanlty stronger, hence why hades stated to kratos, "your soul will make me even stronger."