Rolex Submariner vs Rolex Sea Dweller 4000: Luxury Dive Watch Comparison and Watch Review
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
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Rolex Submariner vs Rolex Sea Dweller headlines today’s parade of the world’s finest luxury watches. Preowned watches from the WatchBox inventory stream across your screen as Tim Mosso highlights the fit and features of the best men’s watches. In addition to the two dive watches, a stainless steel Rolex Daytona helps to illuminate the appeal of Rolex watches at a time when unprecedented demand has driven extreme scarcity and prices among Rolex models. This is the ultimate window-shopping luxury watch experience!
Launched in 2012, the Rolex Submariner 114060 became the latest Rolex dive watch to bear the title of “No Date Sub.” Technically, the “no date” is called a “Submariner,” and the watch with the date is called a “Submariner Date.” The 114060 represented a continuation of the core Sub line originally launched with the reference 6204 in 1953. This 40mm stainless steel dive watch incorporates a ceramic insert on its unidirectional dive bezel, and the bezel operates with precise 120-click action.
A Rolex Oyster bracelet and matching clasp allow for up to 20mm of sizing adjustment in two-millimeter increments. Thanks to a Rolex Triplock crown, the Submariner is water resistant to 300 meters. Rolex caliber 3135 provides 48 hours of power reserve, magnetic resistance, and the precision of a COSC certified Swiss chronometer.
Baselworld 2014 witnessed the arrival of the Rolex Sea Dweller 116600, the modern “Sea Dweller 4000.” However, this watch was discontinued in 2017, and the result is one of the rarest Rolex watches of modern times. Substantively, its improvements over the Submariner include a deeper diving depth of 1,220 meters, a helium gas escape valve, and the Rolex Fliplock diving clasp extension in addition to Glidelock. The Rolex 116600 employs the same caliber 3135 automatic movement as the Submariner, albeit with a date window. Unlike the Submariner Date, the Sea Dweller 4000 does not incorporate a “Cyclops Eye” magnifier for its date window.
Aesthetically, this 40mm Sea Dweller differs little from the Submariner, and that was its downfall when the model was on the market. At the time, watch buyers were unwilling to pay a price premium for a Rolex that looked nearly identical to the Submariner. Today, that reticence is the source of this model’s scarcity.
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I’ve had a 4000 for 7 years now. In my opinion it is the best watch Rolex has ever made. It the best of every world. I certainly don’t keep it in a safe though, it’s been all around the world with me, scuba diving and all.
Yes sir! Love my SD4K. Under the radar aficionado watch. I’ve had mine 5 years and have yet to have anyone know what it is which is fine with me!
@@m3sixspeed824 if we ever cross paths IRL, I’m sure we’ll both recognise each other’s fine taste in watches 😁🙏
@@TheRausing1 👍 my man!
I passed up the opportunity to buy one of the SDs a while back from a dealer… boy if I knew then what I knew now….
The 116600 SD4k - perfection. The finest expression of the dive watch concept: professional tough, He capable, but still elegant and versatile. The later 43mm Sea-Dwellers are a travesty - mere bloated Subs!
That Moser is one of the most beautiful Pilot watches that i have ever seen.
SD 4000 for me these are tool watch’s and the 40MM face is a perfect size and depth rating make it a better choice IMO…I would choose the no date over the 43MM SD as I feel that’s model is too bulky…
100% SD43 is too bulky and bad choice to tac on the cyclops.
Wonderful vid very inspiring thanks for sharing
Went down this exact same path with sub and SD4K. Was not happy with either until I ended up with a 126610LN - it really is almost perfect IMO. The sub maxicase just wasn't for me and I got the SD4K for the classic dimensions and no cyclops. SD4K was great but just too thick for my preference - rolled around on my wrist and didn't feel balanced. I tried a GMT but once you have a glidelock watch nothing else compares for wearability. I should have held onto the SD4K as I got it a very good price - Chrono24 has it up 43% from what I paid for it at JackRoad in 2018... live and learn!
Had the sd 16600 sold it bought the 114060. Better fit on wrist for me personally Don’t need the date. Better bracelet. But the sd116600 is probably the best Rolex ever made in retrospect
Amazing episode Tim….
Is the lume pip slightly crooked to the right on the Sub?
Tim, I never had an English teacher with a vocabulary as good as yours!
That bracelet on the Moser, wow!
Anyone else bored senseless with Rolex?
Totally!!!
It's so sad that not only are two unobtainable watches from the AD are being compared but also from the perspective of them being an investment piece. This is the state of Rolex in 2021.
The SD4000 is perfection 👌🏻
That Chopard LUC is very interesting!
Much prefer the Sea Dweller. Spot on pretty much everything. Submariner is nice too but not a fan of the thick lugs and boxy look of this iteration. Glad they fixed that with the latest version.
H.Moser is the champ for me..... what a beauty!!!!
When I was looking for a Rolex I spent 2 years researching what I wanted to wear. I really like the Submariner but I needed a date but I hated the cyclops so the 14060/114060 and 16610/116610 were ruled out. Eventually I saw a video by Archieluxury talking about the Sea Dweller which was a model I didn't know about. In summer 2013 I was finally able to acquire a full set with all tags from a pastor who was selling it on eBay. I'll never sell this watch but I'd be lying if I said I wished I had waited to get the 116600 as it improves upon the issues with the 16600 which was the bracelet. Maybe prices will come down a little and I'll be able pick one up for a reasonable price.
I wouldn't wait. They are increasing around 1500 a year tbh.
Sd4000 is almost perfect. Once you see the end links bracelet transition it cannot be unseen 😀 speaking from personal experience. 114060 slim and beautiful. All you need
Agree on the end links but the real deal breaker was the thickness/balance for me. The maxi case is an equally bad offender to the end links IMO. 124060 is where I would look for a ceramic sub.
That Moser moonphase has just entered the running to be my Dress Watch Grail.
The SD4K is the best Rolex sport model ever made… period
Chopard wins this episode.
I wonder how many people has use a sea dweller for deep diving, maybe 10?
Also the A Lange 1815 wow…..
Is the case of the 4000 smaller “lug to lug “ compared to the sub ?
Yeah - the lugs are smaller and nicer on the SD4K- the case is unique for the SD4K as well which is smaller ….
And it is true that blank dials are a bold move, I think it also saves Moser a buck or two on dial furnature.lol
I had an late 90's model Seadweller with the matt dial, it wore big but cost three grand pre owned and a bit baggy🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rolex is a luxury fashion watch
Not the same movement in the two Rolex watches you compared.
It looks like Watchbox will acquire an interest on Greubel Forsey next…
The final Greubel Forsey has the face of Jabba the Hutt.
I always hated that MB&F/ Moser UFO watch until today when I saw it in profile and you can see the hairspring spinning like a tornado inside a turbillon. Santa Maria that is awesome!
You forgot the cyclops
Hey Tim, can't you do better than that crumpled piece of paper at the beginning? 🤣
Tim & TWB keeping it real! No need for fancy effects here 😎
elitist alert!
all profits are rolled back into the business
Rowlecks vs Rowlecks
Lolex pleeeze haha!
SD 4000 great watch.. but just traded it in for something else
What did you trade for?
The value of the 4000 will only keep going up, mark my words.
@@TheRausing1 not much after I bought two years ago
@@TheRausing1 agreed
@@Asiamoviemusicssscults you can't expect it to go up much in 2 years, but if say another 10-15 years and as long as rolex doesn't make another 40-41mm SD, then yes the SD4k price would keep going up and perhaps quite significantly
sea dweller any minute of the day
Absolutely
Thumping sounds again. Please do something about it. I listen with headphones and I have to turn it way down so that it does not hurt my ears.
2:22 that is false. The calibre 3135 is not antimagnetic.
01:32 N o sir, the investment potential is not self evident, m A $2.99 watch from Walmart can keep better time.
Uses a lemania based movement… patek: £50,000 please 😂 ridiculous
The Rolex Sea Dweller 116600 and prior iteration 16600 all day over the common submariner