Thanks for the video! I too was struggling with vibration ever since I got my O3. I also did the same thing this video suggested (good solid frame and props, camera soft mount, ESC 96kHz PWM, etc.). Now my O3 videos are buttery smooth.
Am I missing something here with regards to the PWM frequencies? I would have thought that just doubling one, to be twice the other, that there'd still be some form of frequency resonance or interplay.
@Mads Tech - got stock PNP MARK5 o3 6S - i’ve got 96Hz in BLheli suite- you don’t mention what to do in such case , do I need to still change it to 48hz or i can leave it as is as the quad flies ok? Thanks!
I have multiple 03 setups and in one case the IMU was damaged and I had to get a replacement O3 unit. The way I finally realized this was that it was not giving me a level horizon in Gyroflow when choosing lock horizon even when the quad wasn't flying.
@@MadRChello sir! I took the screws out of my Geprc Mark 5 to adjust camera angle of O3 unit, I set it as I wanted, now I wanna put the screws back ( they are all exactly same, 4x ) and they just stuck half way??? Like I can screw them back in just a little bit and then they both stay in the same spot leaving like 3mm gap to the actual drone. I tried to push a bit heavier but no help and also don’t wanna try pushing really hard and break the camera lol. What is going on? Please help me I beg you I’m losing my mind I got this drone 7th day now and I still wasn’t out flying cos there is ALWAYS a problem. I just finally charged my bats, set everything on Beta Flight and now this💩. Omfg….
Yup Im getting bad vibrations in my O3 FPV feed and I spin my motors and the front left motor feels like there more drag then the other 3! Thank you for this Ian! I'll be changing out these motors for more quality motors and I bet that will do the trick! I'll report back!
I changed the motors and glued the lens on the O3 and also rubber mounted the O3. Got rid of a little vibration but not all of it. I even changed pwm on the ESCs. I'm thinking it has to do with the frame of the craft. Catalyst MachineWorks shocker ul4.
I have had two cameras that the lens got completely loose after having flown in cold weather. Near or below freezing temperatures seems to have knocked the adhesive loose and the lens was freely jiggling on the threads. I had to use glue to adhere the lens again to resolve the issue.
Thanks for the comment. Ill have to take a look, I have been having moderate vibrations ever since flying in the snow in -6 c weather. Where do you apply the CA? Just along the base of the lens?
@@dennisklein3574 hey not sure if you tried it yet but I gave it a go last night. If using CA glue try to huff on the camera (for moisture) or a quick spray of IPA before application. My CA glue didn't dry after 12 hours or so then i sprayed some IPA on it and it dried in 20 minutes. I don't know what plastic is used on the o3 lens but CA glue did not readily adhere and dry to it.
I only get gelo shaking when the g’s are high like pulling up hard from a dive going into a flip. My props are in really bad shape but also have everything zip tied with no TPU mounts other than TPU soft mounted motors. This is an AOS5 build. Do you think new props and TPU mounts is the best place to start?
Thanks for all the great tips. My issue was the PWM frequency, went away when I changed it to 48 kHz. Was not noticible at all in the unstabilized footage. If it helps anyone, my issue presented itself as "jiggling" in the roll axis when stabilizing the footage in Gyroflow. This was on my Nazgul Evoque F5 V2 BNF.
i had bad jello only in gyroflow. i changed my motors to new motors and issue disappeared. im still frustrated. i wanted this to replace my gopro, but seems like i will still use my gopro for good footage.
in BLHeliSuite32 32.9.05 I have both PWM freq low and high. its only letting me change the high value. yours says "by RPM"?? I cant move my PWM low slider??
I was having vibrations issues on my Aos 5 03. I changed the PWM frequency to 48kHz and it didn’t help. Then I took the camera apart and put some glue under the lens barrel and now it is smooth. Dji support said I could send it in and they will “help fix it” I asked them if I’d have to pay anything and I got a second reply “we’ll help fix it” so I did it myself.
I have been tightening the screws on my cameras without taking the camera completely apart. They have been just a little loose on all of them. I’m getting good results even on some frames that don’t have the camera mounted with TPU mounts.
Any luck with the resonance? I have just picked up an 03AU at the Post Office today, so before I get building a drone around it, I'm seeing what I can learn. My first thought, when seeing this video, was 'will blackbox data help in this case' ? …or is going to be more of a guess, until the vibrations stop resonating with the camera?
I had bad jello on my O3 unit -visible in the recorded video but not in the goggles. After quite a bit of messing about I discovered the jello went away if I toggled the EIS setting from RockSteady to Off. That’s a lot easier than dismantling the camera or altering the camera mount, so I’d suggest trying it first.
That's exactly why people was watching this video for. Gyro data jittering only matter when you turn EIS on or using Gyroflow to stabilize a footage. If you don't care about using O3's footage then you just turn off EIS, this video is not for you.
Even if everything is perfect Rocksteady gives me micro stutter while recording. It is very obvious during playback and during flight to me. When Rock steady off on same flight all is smooth flight video and recording. As said if RS is off and the vibration is not there than its not my frequency nor faulty camera. There is something more going on.
From what I believe, the vibration from the 24kHz frequency is messing with how the o3 gyro data is recorded. I had the same experience as you until I got a 3d printed camera mount replacement for my AOS5.5 and change the PWM frequency. I also captured a flight without the change in PWM frequency with the "soft mount," and the stutters were still present but definitely not as shaky as recorded video without those 2 changes.
The silicon replacement mounts are a really poor design. You cant really secure the camera angle when tightening a screw against a soft silicone pad, they need to change the whole aluminum mount too so that the screws are tightened against a solid aluminum surface and the silicone pads are sandwiched between the camera and the aluminum mount.
FIRST OF ALL: checking the lens ! hardware first and this will include the lens or cam mount. this is #1 rule since i fly fpv from 2008. after the focus issue with the action 3 and what dji said about that i dont trust them any more. dont want to screw up my esc settings with 48 or higher at the low end. thats just crazy dumb and not solving the problem, where it is. if the gyro inside does best with a soft mount something is really wrong.
Thanks for the video! I too was struggling with vibration ever since I got my O3. I also did the same thing this video suggested (good solid frame and props, camera soft mount, ESC 96kHz PWM, etc.). Now my O3 videos are buttery smooth.
this happens while using rocksteady? how about turning it off? does this problem still exist?
@@baaao Yes, it was happening even when using Rocksteady or not using Rocksteady.
Am I missing something here with regards to the PWM frequencies? I would have thought that just doubling one, to be twice the other, that there'd still be some form of frequency resonance or interplay.
@Mads Tech - got stock PNP MARK5 o3 6S - i’ve got 96Hz in BLheli suite- you don’t mention what to do in such case , do I need to still change it to 48hz or i can leave it as is as the quad flies ok? Thanks!
Where I can order the rubber mount fro. Thank you
I have multiple 03 setups and in one case the IMU was damaged and I had to get a replacement O3 unit. The way I finally realized this was that it was not giving me a level horizon in Gyroflow when choosing lock horizon even when the quad wasn't flying.
Fantastic info, Ian! Thanks a bunch! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks MC.
@@MadRChello sir! I took the screws out of my Geprc Mark 5 to adjust camera angle of O3 unit, I set it as I wanted, now I wanna put the screws back ( they are all exactly same, 4x ) and they just stuck half way??? Like I can screw them back in just a little bit and then they both stay in the same spot leaving like 3mm gap to the actual drone. I tried to push a bit heavier but no help and also don’t wanna try pushing really hard and break the camera lol. What is going on? Please help me I beg you I’m losing my mind I got this drone 7th day now and I still wasn’t out flying cos there is ALWAYS a problem. I just finally charged my bats, set everything on Beta Flight and now this💩. Omfg….
Yup Im getting bad vibrations in my O3 FPV feed and I spin my motors and the front left motor feels like there more drag then the other 3! Thank you for this Ian! I'll be changing out these motors for more quality motors and I bet that will do the trick! I'll report back!
Did you ever get those switched out and did it make a difference?
I changed the motors and glued the lens on the O3 and also rubber mounted the O3. Got rid of a little vibration but not all of it. I even changed pwm on the ESCs. I'm thinking it has to do with the frame of the craft. Catalyst MachineWorks shocker ul4.
@@mitch-k8v ^
Great video Ian, very useful
I have had two cameras that the lens got completely loose after having flown in cold weather. Near or below freezing temperatures seems to have knocked the adhesive loose and the lens was freely jiggling on the threads. I had to use glue to adhere the lens again to resolve the issue.
Well that's definitely my problem. I had zero issues with my O3 until I flew in -15 F weather. Haven't been able to fix it since.
Thanks for the comment. Ill have to take a look, I have been having moderate vibrations ever since flying in the snow in -6 c weather. Where do you apply the CA? Just along the base of the lens?
@@dennisklein3574 basically. The lens threads in and I just put some more adhesive right on the threads.
@@MurdersFPV alright, I'll have to give it a try. Thanks for the help!
@@dennisklein3574 hey not sure if you tried it yet but I gave it a go last night. If using CA glue try to huff on the camera (for moisture) or a quick spray of IPA before application. My CA glue didn't dry after 12 hours or so then i sprayed some IPA on it and it dried in 20 minutes. I don't know what plastic is used on the o3 lens but CA glue did not readily adhere and dry to it.
I am using iFlight BLITZ Mini ATF435 Flight Controller and getting errors . Is AT32 bords having different method for changing PWM frequency ??
Where you get those rubber tpu to purchase?
I only get gelo shaking when the g’s are high like pulling up hard from a dive going into a flip. My props are in really bad shape but also have everything zip tied with no TPU mounts other than TPU soft mounted motors. This is an AOS5 build. Do you think new props and TPU mounts is the best place to start?
what antenna do you use in o3 I mean the whole setup and can I replace them when I use a dji controller ?
Thanks for all the great tips. My issue was the PWM frequency, went away when I changed it to 48 kHz. Was not noticible at all in the unstabilized footage. If it helps anyone, my issue presented itself as "jiggling" in the roll axis when stabilizing the footage in Gyroflow. This was on my Nazgul Evoque F5 V2 BNF.
i had bad jello only in gyroflow. i changed my motors to new motors and issue disappeared. im still frustrated. i wanted this to replace my gopro, but seems like i will still use my gopro for good footage.
I agree
in BLHeliSuite32 32.9.05 I have both PWM freq low and high. its only letting me change the high value. yours says "by RPM"?? I cant move my PWM low slider??
I was having vibrations issues on my Aos 5 03. I changed the PWM frequency to 48kHz and it didn’t help. Then I took the camera apart and put some glue under the lens barrel and now it is smooth. Dji support said I could send it in and they will “help fix it” I asked them if I’d have to pay anything and I got a second reply “we’ll help fix it” so I did it myself.
Hello what is lens barrel ? Do you have a photo of where you put glue plz
You’re the man. Thanks for the info
I have been tightening the screws on my cameras without taking the camera completely apart. They have been just a little loose on all of them. I’m getting good results even on some frames that don’t have the camera mounted with TPU mounts.
Just, great!!! Thank you!
I have two O3 Airunits hard mounted with no issues and two soft mounted one which is a chimera pro v2 am getting vibration in video just sos strange.
thank you very much, after I installed 48khz my esc burned out in a minute
😮😮😮why?
Where is the download link for the blheli configurator?
Great video, sorry to go off topic, but which antennas are Iflight using on that quad? 2 x 5.8 or is one a 2.4?
Im trying to figure out exactly which PWM frequency i need to change in BsHeli
Any luck with the resonance?
I have just picked up an 03AU at the Post Office today, so before I get building a drone around it, I'm seeing what I can learn.
My first thought, when seeing this video, was 'will blackbox data help in this case' ? …or is going to be more of a guess, until the vibrations stop resonating with the camera?
Well, thought this was just an isolated issue, as both my 03 air units are hard mounted with zero issues, guess lucky me?
Hello ive done everything you tell BUT its says that the booting FAIL on each ESC ! WHY ???!
Awesome guide.
Can you glue the lense without taking the camera all apart?
Sadly no
Always have TPU mounted my cameras and with the O3 haven't seen any issue. Must just be the few who still use vertical carbon camera mounting plates.
I had bad jello on my O3 unit -visible in the recorded video but not in the goggles. After quite a bit of messing about I discovered the jello went away if I toggled the EIS setting from RockSteady to Off. That’s a lot easier than dismantling the camera or altering the camera mount, so I’d suggest trying it first.
That's exactly why people was watching this video for. Gyro data jittering only matter when you turn EIS on or using Gyroflow to stabilize a footage. If you don't care about using O3's footage then you just turn off EIS, this video is not for you.
hard mounted 3 03's and no issues....
Even if everything is perfect Rocksteady gives me micro stutter while recording. It is very obvious during playback and during flight to me. When Rock steady off on same flight all is smooth flight video and recording. As said if RS is off and the vibration is not there than its not my frequency nor faulty camera. There is something more going on.
From what I believe, the vibration from the 24kHz frequency is messing with how the o3 gyro data is recorded. I had the same experience as you until I got a 3d printed camera mount replacement for my AOS5.5 and change the PWM frequency. I also captured a flight without the change in PWM frequency with the "soft mount," and the stutters were still present but definitely not as shaky as recorded video without those 2 changes.
The silicon replacement mounts are a really poor design. You cant really secure the camera angle when tightening a screw against a soft silicone pad, they need to change the whole aluminum mount too so that the screws are tightened against a solid aluminum surface and the silicone pads are sandwiched between the camera and the aluminum mount.
FIRST OF ALL: checking the lens ! hardware first and this will include the lens or cam mount. this is #1 rule since i fly fpv from 2008. after the focus issue with the action 3 and what dji said about that i dont trust them any more. dont want to screw up my esc settings with 48 or higher at the low end. thats just crazy dumb and not solving the problem, where it is. if the gyro inside does best with a soft mount something is really wrong.
O3 image too stretched and distorted, V2 goggles image is normal.
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