The Ultimate Camera Brand Shootout | Canon R5 vs Sony A7SIII vs Panasonic GH6 vs Blackmagic 6K Pro

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    0:00 - Intro
    1:23 - Are We Biased Toward a Certain Brand?
    2:01 - What Cameras Will We Be Comparing?
    2:54 - What Lenses Are We Using?
    4:05 - How Do You Afford This Gear And Education?
    4:56 - Price
    6:14 - Build/Layout
    7:53 - Menu/Ease of Use
    9:26 - Sensors
    11:27 - Resolution/Frame Rate
    14:10 - Canon R5 8K Problems
    16:12 - Autofocus
    18:38 - Dynamic Range
    20:06 - Color Science
    22:36 - Low Light Performance
    23:50 - Sony's Secret Formula?
    24:35 - Max ISO Test
    25:10 - Stabilization
    26:59 - Which Camera Is The Winner?
    28:37 - Are We Switching To Sony?!?
    29:50 - Want To Learn More?
    30:49 - Bonus
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Комментарии • 799

  • @TomorrowsFilmmakers
    @TomorrowsFilmmakers  2 года назад +111

    Before you comment, check this out: ⬇
    1. The Sony A7SIII DOES have a touch screen. It was a simple scripting mistake that wasn't caught before posting. Still would keep the same rank though.
    2. The R5C was backordered, so we weren't able to get our hands on one for the comparison. We plan on using that for the next shootout.
    3. The Sony does have a native ISO of 12,800 and would blow the others out of the water, but we wanted to see how it compared on their level of 10,000 ISO. (It Still Won)
    4. The GH6 does have a "tripod mode" which does perform better when walking. But we just tested everything with their standard IBIS
    5. For all of you Nikon and Fuji fans, we have content coming out for those as well. So don't worry. :)

    • @michaels5166
      @michaels5166 2 года назад +1

      just make sure you test the non recalled Nikons..D850/Z9,etc..hehehe

    • @sardanapalos
      @sardanapalos 2 года назад +8

      why not use the S1h which is the same price as the Canon and Sony and is Full frame and Panasonics top notch mirrorless camera for video at the moment...doesnt make sense mate .... at all

    • @ferrygelluny9093
      @ferrygelluny9093 2 года назад +8

      why dont you choose S1H from lumix?

    • @ferrygelluny9093
      @ferrygelluny9093 2 года назад +4

      @@sardanapalos true

    • @VAPSBVI
      @VAPSBVI Год назад

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  • @sprinklememang
    @sprinklememang 2 года назад +22

    This was really just clickbait right? 30+ minutes wasted to pretty much plug their course? The testing seemed so out of whack that it had to be a piss take. Using different glass on each. Not knowing or using native ISO. Not understanding how properly set up autofocus or stabilization options to yield optimum results. Not understanding how rig the BM on a gimbal. Shooting in standard picture profiles to compare color science. On what planet does Sony or any other camera here have 15 stops of DR? And how was this verified? No understanding of crop factors? You "needed" 2 lenses for the GH6 to cover the focal range when the 1st lens clearly does just that? They even showed the equivalent focal range on the B&H screenshot contradicting was they were saying! Best self own was at 4:06 "If you buy one of these cameras and don't know how to use it, it's essentially worthless". Pretty much summed up the presenters abilities to properly test, compare, use and understand basic camera differences. If this was a joke, then haha. You got me.

    • @gabrielmachadobsb
      @gabrielmachadobsb 2 года назад +1

      Yes!!!! At first I was thought the "using different lenses is better" was going to be worse, but this video just kept getting worse. It's probably the best showcase of the dunning-krueger effect on RUclips. I was baffled by just how many mistakes there were. At the end I wouldn't watch their course even they were paying me instead of the other way around

  • @chrisccain
    @chrisccain 2 года назад +74

    I think it’s worth mentioning that the BMPCC Pro comes with Davinci Resolve software. Which is crazy. And it has the best denoiser on the market. This is a proper cinema camera that is used on Film sets across the world. When you start shooting with a real cinema camera vs a hybrid you can’t go back. You get used to having everything for video right on the camera vs having to map the buttons for film.

    • @robrever
      @robrever Год назад +1

      Did you find a gimbal that you can use with it?

    • @TacticalCactusMedia
      @TacticalCactusMedia Год назад +5

      @@robreveryou can use any Ronin capable of carrying the weight, you just need a riser plate

    • @NBP_Photos
      @NBP_Photos Год назад +7

      Works with Zhiyun Crane 3s and Ronin RS3's. Don't Know why they didn't add that information afterwards in the bio. Seems misleading for those that are interested in getting into the Blackmagic ecosystem. As @chrisccain noted, each camera also comes with the full Davinci Resolve software free which is an amazing editing software with extremely powerful features.

    • @mythic_media
      @mythic_media Год назад

      BM6KP is by all means a stellar cinema camera for anything film. and a buddy of mine uses it with the riser plate and raveneye on the rs2 no problem. But, nothing beats the Sony as a workhorse in the videography realm. the capability to shoot a whole event, wedding, or anything really with the a7siii on gimbal and have sharp autofocus is like a comfortable armchair compared to lugging around one’s beloved cinema camera in that situation. mainly because of the weight, and the need for some type of follow focus. but when you go outside on a sunny day those internal ND’s are certainly nice.

  • @OliverCao
    @OliverCao 2 года назад +388

    For the Sony a7siii low light test, you should've set it to the 12,800 iso which is its second native ISO. It would've cleaned up the noise

    • @men770d
      @men770d 2 года назад +16

      Plus probably should test the fx3 over the 7sIII

    • @sstteevveenn77
      @sstteevveenn77 2 года назад +22

      @@men770d The fx3 and the a7s3 have the same exact sensor. There is actually no difference at all in image quality between the two. Anything regarding lowlight capabilities with the s3 applies to the fx3 as well. The only difference is the the exterior and the different features each have.

    • @robertconrad6802
      @robertconrad6802 2 года назад +28

      omg that drove me nuts! like how do you test that at 1/3 stop away from the 2nd native iso? and they seem like smart guys that know it too. weird.

    • @men770d
      @men770d 2 года назад +3

      @@sstteevveenn77 i know.
      But they test the grip of all cameras. If it was the fx3, he would win this category too.

    • @RhettThompsonFilm
      @RhettThompsonFilm 2 года назад +4

      I love how people complain about the GH6 at 2000 but the a7iii is only decent at 12800

  • @random_dev
    @random_dev 2 года назад +265

    Wow, I’m disappointed by the number of mistakes.
    The A7S III does have a touchscreen….
    Using ISO 10000 is a non sense when you have a dual iso triggering at 12800 in SLog 3.
    Stabilization mode on GH6 was not the right setup. I did watch soles footage with or without and that’s far stable than A7S III.
    Also talking about the R5 overheating issue without have a word for the R5C…is kind a strange.
    But good video anyway 👍

    • @Aviciiz
      @Aviciiz 2 года назад +34

      Testing color science in the standard picture profiles instead of log...

    • @WiFuzzy
      @WiFuzzy 2 года назад +10

      Thankyou. The R5C was the elephant in the room...lol.

    • @michaels5166
      @michaels5166 2 года назад +1

      @@Aviciiz if you do post and grading you need to check both..

    • @jflores9891
      @jflores9891 2 года назад

      Lol touch screen

    • @kifley19
      @kifley19 2 года назад +1

      The dual iso at 12800 looks mushy. Sony is doing too much noise reduction.

  • @michaszymanski7921
    @michaszymanski7921 2 года назад +132

    The highest level of gh6 stabilisation is the "tripod mode" - it is deticated not to record movement - that's why your results were disappointing. Try the one stop lower mode and it will beat it's opponent's

    • @247.mp4
      @247.mp4 2 года назад +23

      I was wondering on the end chart how it was possible for any camera to beat the GH6 stabilization.

    • @debarghyasenguptaphotoandfilms
      @debarghyasenguptaphotoandfilms 2 года назад +16

      Panasonic provides one of the best Ibis.
      You are correct that tripod mode is to take static handheld shot not moving

    • @wingitreview
      @wingitreview 2 года назад +5

      For real bro piss me off 😂

    • @isidroundercover
      @isidroundercover 2 года назад +11

      They're very Amateur to be honest should have done a little bit more research on each camera to get a real comparison

    • @kadeemcvisions
      @kadeemcvisions 2 года назад +14

      i said the same thing to myself. like how they really low-balled panasonic like that. ok..we get it...sony and canon..wooohoo. meat riders for those two brands but costs so much money and they use prime lenses!!!..expensive i love Panasonic. so wht if it isnt full frame..still gets the whole job done!!

  • @nickharris5231
    @nickharris5231 2 года назад +88

    It just seems a little silly that you didn't choose one of the 3 different Panasonic full frame options. The a7s iii is the same price as a S1H. Would have been a more apt comparison.

    • @chevaughnbeckford8491
      @chevaughnbeckford8491 2 года назад +15

      This is the same thing I was thinking, comparing a Micro four-thirds sensor to full frames

    • @BKWill75
      @BKWill75 2 года назад +3

      Agreed

    • @covialex741
      @covialex741 2 года назад

      Right?

    • @HGQjazz
      @HGQjazz 2 года назад +16

      They knew what they were doing. S5 would've competed well against the others and at $1500, would've made the choice obvious.

    • @NealJohnson
      @NealJohnson 2 года назад +5

      I was also here for the S1H comparison - the most underrated camera on the market!

  • @waynelast1685
    @waynelast1685 Год назад +20

    For me , a huge factor is built-in ND filters. Nothing is more annoying than having to swap or add filters in the middle of a wedding or live shoot. Also, the BM camera is big so it does not overheat. That's why I like Blackmagic sometimes.

  • @ElMundoDuro
    @ElMundoDuro 2 года назад +66

    The 12-35 mm lens for Micro Four Thirds is the exact replacement of a 24-70 lens on Full Frame. The 2X crop factor of MFT is easy to convert. Just divide or multiply by 2 to convert from full frame to MFT. 12mm on MFT = 24mm on Full Frame. 35 on MFT = 70 on Full Frame. This should not have been an issue, or even confusing to people that know and understand crop factor. To purchase a 35-100 for this comparison makes no sense. It is a full frame equivalent of 70-200mm. Come on guys....

    • @bogdanpopescu8406
      @bogdanpopescu8406 Год назад +1

      Yes, exact replacement for the focal lenghth and for luminosity (at f/2.8 both lenses), BUT the bokeh is not the same, because of the sensor.
      Don't expect have the same depth of field (the depth of field of Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8 is f/4 equivalent on full frame).

    • @ElMundoDuro
      @ElMundoDuro Год назад +1

      @@bogdanpopescu8406 Correct the depth of field would be different on a lens designed for a smaller sensor despite the aperture values being the same. I think for the purposes of this video it would have been fine. In real life situations this also makes smaller sensors better for landscape photography allowing for more light and a wider aperture while getting more in focus.

  • @bobcrusader
    @bobcrusader 2 года назад +58

    $50 worth of Smallrig parts and you can get the BMPCC 6K Pro to ride on an Ronin S or RS2. Probably would have been worth mentioning that the BMPCC 6K Pro comes with Resolve, which has great stabilization and noise reduction capabilities. With all the other brands, you'd have to buy editing software...

    • @Belamarimages
      @Belamarimages 2 года назад +2

      Exactly! 👍🏻 I have it on RS2 and it works perfectly!

    • @AlpsLifee
      @AlpsLifee 2 года назад +1

      @@Belamarimages yeah I used it on a shoot recently and it was fine on the rs2

    • @KeedonMD
      @KeedonMD 2 года назад +2

      Doesn’t even cost 50 dollars. A 200g counterweight will suffice. It even works with RSC2 ! And yea, BMPCC paired with Da Vinci is the bomb for colour grading: DaVinci Wide Gamut already beats Adobe hands down.

    • @Darrinwilliamsmedia
      @Darrinwilliamsmedia 2 года назад

      Yes, love it on the Ronin S with counter weight and added handles plus the tilta wireless focus system.

    • @Thedudemannn
      @Thedudemannn 2 года назад

      @@Darrinwilliamsmedia What counterweight do you use for the BMPCC 6k? I'm thinking of getting one. I like the image better but i'm not sure how it would match up with my canon mk3 as a 'B' cam...

  • @NBP_Photos
    @NBP_Photos Год назад +10

    The Blackmagic 6K Pro does fit on gimbals and also has a dual native iso at 400 and 3200 which should be mentioned that produces great footage with very minimal grain and high dynamic range. Also, the 6K pro is a cinema grade camera. That is the reason why ibis and continuous autofocus are not present. It is meant to be used with a follow focus system like the tilta nucleus nano and m system.

  • @alvincamera
    @alvincamera 2 года назад +17

    Just asking in IBIS are you turn on all of the ibis in GH6? it will only work if you want to have tripod like shoot(not moving like talking head), for moving subject you only need turn on ibis and e stabilization,because if you turn on all of them it will look weird for moving shot

  • @DrSidewayZ
    @DrSidewayZ 2 года назад +6

    I ended up going with the a7siii so far I love it the dual iso is insane, also loving yalls online class I’ve learned so much!! Thanks guys!

  • @zollotech
    @zollotech 2 года назад +5

    Nice to see another RUclips channel in Charlotte. I recognize that nature preserve as I film there often. Great job

    • @kurtanhkhoito
      @kurtanhkhoito 2 года назад +1

      ^ This man is an apple celebrity and this comment got no likes 🤩 Cheers

  • @charltonium4083
    @charltonium4083 2 года назад +19

    When it comes to dynamic range, you should have also considered that the GH6 has the dynamic range booster function that can be turned on and off. Also, this is why you should have done an S-series camera instead, since they boast 14 stops instead of 13.

  • @julianab.andrade357
    @julianab.andrade357 Год назад

    This is incredible! You guys put so much effort into making this video! This content is so helpful! Thank you so much! Bless your heart for leaving the deleted parts at the end 😂😂 ❤❤

  • @megvlogfilms
    @megvlogfilms 2 года назад +61

    I personally use GH6 and changed from Sony. I feel very comfortable about usability of GH6 and nothing change from Sony. And it has really detailed functions so I could customize all as i want to. As mentioned “easy to use” I know it might be big change from previous version but I think GH6 is worth to have it and great camera. Anyway I enjoyed to watch your reviews🙂

    • @mitchhifi9192
      @mitchhifi9192 8 месяцев назад +2

      I use Gh6 and black magic 4K, very complimentary cameras for aby filming situation.

    • @user-by4tt6ur4r
      @user-by4tt6ur4r 8 месяцев назад

      i am planning to buy a panasonic lumix model,, but im confused.. which one is better when it comes to lowlight video and battery life...the gh5 or gh6.. hope u notice my comment thanks..

    • @user-by4tt6ur4r
      @user-by4tt6ur4r 8 месяцев назад

      @@mitchhifi9192 which is better?

    • @mitchhifi9192
      @mitchhifi9192 8 месяцев назад

      @@user-by4tt6ur4r I prefer the GH6 over the bm4k better quality shooting

    • @lizlana4200
      @lizlana4200 7 месяцев назад

      @@user-by4tt6ur4rGH6 as it gives ibis, internal raw pro res hq and looks just as cinematic as the bmpcc4k but with slightly more computational render. Not a big deal as it yields for more variants. Higher dr than gh5, cleaner. You need a vintage or cinema lens for it otherwise it won’t work on this camera for that cinema look that makes it obvious. No modern or native lenses is the best way to go if that makes sense. Lowlight is good on both but won’t beat the gh5s by a slight margin. Go for the GH6 👌

  • @jeffersonoliveira5377
    @jeffersonoliveira5377 2 года назад

    Absolutly awesome (and fair) review of each camera! Great Content guys!

  • @andyatmosphere
    @andyatmosphere Год назад

    THIS is the video I was looking for!! THANKS GUYS!

  • @kingalysterianlion5542
    @kingalysterianlion5542 Год назад +4

    Great video. I did some research and discovered that the Bmpcc 6K pro is fully supported and fits the DJI rack 3 pro

  • @cristianbalate
    @cristianbalate Год назад

    Great work guys, thanks!

  • @isaacroberts9089
    @isaacroberts9089 Год назад

    Such a helpful video, thank you!

  • @247.mp4
    @247.mp4 2 года назад +5

    Quite good comparison!
    I just think you guys didn't quite did the GH6 justice, but i get it that a quick comparison doesnt cover or makes to possible to notice some settings/features.
    Especially when it comes to usability/easy of use and ibis.

  • @neljunochea1032
    @neljunochea1032 2 года назад

    Very informative. Thanks for this💖

  • @DaisysWorld192
    @DaisysWorld192 2 года назад +3

    Absolutely fantastic video and analysis! I'm so glad to finally hear what I've been saying from day one that the Canon R5 and the R6 have serious overheating issues when shooting in the higher frames rates and codecs. This is why I've stuck with the R. My arsenal also includes the A7S3, GH5, and the new Olympus OM1.

  • @normannseils3936
    @normannseils3936 2 года назад +6

    I personally have no problem working with the Pocket 6K pro on my RS2. Im using relatively light wide angle lenses and it works a charm. Even with the raveneye+focus wheel attached. But I have to say I’m considering getting a Sony as my second camera since those two perfectly add to each other’s weeknesses.
    And I’m wondering why they didn’t cover audio capabilities. I’m doing a lot of Interview shooting and being able to input 3 Mikrofons (or 2 on separate channels) is quite nice for the whole package that is the pocket 6K pro.

  • @castielvargastv7931
    @castielvargastv7931 2 года назад +25

    Lol complaining about the mft crop is dumb. Just buy the right lense! You cant expect to be everything the same as full frame, its a different system. Full frame is not the be all end all. For apsc or mft users the numbers of dull frame lenses is confusing.

    • @yiyun911
      @yiyun911 2 года назад +4

      yes it is very very dumb , i keep laughing while watching .
      when thay say they're going 12-35 F2.8 , im like 'OKAY!'
      but next thay said '' and another 35-100 '' i was like "?????????" dumb dumb dumb

    • @BASKETBALL_UNI
      @BASKETBALL_UNI Год назад +2

      Repent and receive life from Christ and be saved in Jesus mighty name amen.

    • @michaelsantangelo2936
      @michaelsantangelo2936 Год назад

      Yea what’s up with the image comparison? Didn’t you get a Lens that would have an equal focal length with the other cameras……?

  • @amadei2
    @amadei2 2 года назад +37

    Should have added a Panasonic s5 or s1h, those are some of the most feature packed camera .

    • @chrisklugh
      @chrisklugh 2 года назад +1

      Price wise, the S1H is too much for this comparison. This is comparing mid level cameras. The S5 probably would have been the better one to fit in there. Feature wise, it's about the same as the Sony and Cannon. But I think they went with the GH6 because of its dynamic range boost, and it has more features the all of them to make up for it. But do those features make up for it it? Depends on what you shot!

    • @amadei2
      @amadei2 2 года назад +4

      @@chrisklugh I mean the r5 is more expensive. The S1 is also great value with the last firmware.
      You need to work around the autofocus in video unfortunately

    • @chrisklugh
      @chrisklugh 2 года назад +3

      @@amadei2 Depending on how you shoot, that could mean everything and nothing. lol

    • @SmanEDITS
      @SmanEDITS 2 года назад

      And SONY A1

    • @amadei2
      @amadei2 2 года назад

      @@SmanEDITS sony a1 wouldn't even make sense, why not add a RED camera at that point.
      Where I live the A1 is double the a7s3

  • @estebanod
    @estebanod Год назад +2

    The 6k not having continous AF is an automatic disqualification
    19:50 "no shot looks bad" *shows an absolutely disgusting shot from the 6k*

  • @funology_tamil
    @funology_tamil 2 года назад +4

    Guys you look,, out of space for 3 men 😂

  • @silverfoxproductions6923
    @silverfoxproductions6923 2 года назад

    Great stuff guys!

  • @leebrandt8597
    @leebrandt8597 2 года назад +73

    Guys, gonna have to disagree with you on the Sony having better highlight detail than the Pocket 6k Pro. In post, if you grade on the Wide Gamut intermediate, and use highlight recovery, you will get 9 stops above middle grey (my tests with the camera) plus another 6.5 below. This is an advantage over any other camera on the market since Blackmagic has a patent in highlight recovery. If you're not getting this much latitude, then you're not quite doing it right in post. Would be happy to discuss this if you like

    • @KeedonMD
      @KeedonMD 2 года назад +15

      They are obviously not BMPCC users and only made an impression based on an off-the-bat experience. The true value of BMPCC is in the bundled software of DaVinci. Others have made the comment about this already. Hope they pick it up in their mistakes.

    • @greenaditor7024
      @greenaditor7024 2 года назад +2

      Any other camera except for the alexa...

    • @MarkusFinholt
      @MarkusFinholt 2 года назад +5

      Dude, you're not getting 15.5 stops of dynamic range from the pocket 6k pro LMAO

    • @leebrandt8597
      @leebrandt8597 2 года назад +3

      @@MarkusFinholt Yes I am. Wide gamut color space + HDR wheels color grading + highlight recovery gives you that much. You can see it in the zones graph: 16 stops of latitude.

    • @MarkusFinholt
      @MarkusFinholt 2 года назад +2

      @@leebrandt8597 16 stops of laditude on the IRE scale doesn't mean the stops are useable.

  • @3dtrip870
    @3dtrip870 2 года назад +5

    This is a great comparison, so thank you! I think the one of the most attractive of the bunch is the GH6: I mean think about it, Pani-boy is like $1000 less than the Sony, which would allow one to purchase the Sigma f1.4 trio with that extra cheddar. Also, how about the anamorphic desqueeze modes in Pani-boy (I am sure Blackmagic does too). I don't have any Panasonic cameras, but I have been researching the GH6, so I am not trying to take sides; I am just pointing out that a micro four thirds loser sensor is not doing so bad keeping up with the Big Boys. I have an Olympus and a Sony (I have had Full Frame and have APS-C Sony), and I can tell you if you want the best lenses for less money (and less size), Micro Four Thirds is the way to go...do love that Sony dynamic range though, it is legit.

  • @KeedonMD
    @KeedonMD 2 года назад +19

    Nice video.
    Just a few points -
    1. Comparing the video off different cameras with different brands of lenses isn’t a fair test. Lenses affect the image most, more so than an adaptor.
    2. BMPCC 6K Pro CAN BE used with a gimbal like RS2 / RSC2. It is left heavy so you simply add a Smallrig counterweight at the right side. In fact DJI Gimbal systems acknowledge BMPCC and its Raveneye is compatible as well.
    3. Leica SL2-S should be somewhere in that lineup. It’s colour science is said to mimic RED while stabilisation is smooth.
    4. It’s worth emphasising that unlike the other three, the BMPCC is a cinema camera from ground up: it does not have a DELETE button alongside stabilisation or continuous focus on purpose (RED or Arri do not have them also). It comes down whether convenience Vs test of skill matters for the consumer. We really can’t rank hybrid cameras (photo/video) on top in these categories although price points wise BMPCC is in the bracket.

  • @RSill25
    @RSill25 Год назад +20

    Blackmagic recently activated their in camera gyro image stabilization on the 6K Pro thru a software update. You need Resolve 18 to use it and there is a slight crop factor but it works pretty well.

  • @clemens1993
    @clemens1993 2 года назад

    This is exactly what I needed

  • @ozcinemarob
    @ozcinemarob Год назад +5

    Great comparison, respect that you saw the quality of the BlackMagic for cinematic work and also that each camera is fit and excels in a particluar purpose.

  • @LaurentHAMMER
    @LaurentHAMMER 2 года назад +29

    You can balance the BlackMagic perfectly well on the Ronin, using counterweights for example.

  • @yenk82
    @yenk82 8 месяцев назад

    Very good video, really deep into details and really honest

  • @fictionhomedesigns
    @fictionhomedesigns Год назад

    Very good described. Keep it up guys👍👍👍

  • @thetenthhouse
    @thetenthhouse Год назад

    great comparison! thank you!

  • @dipankarchatterjee9416
    @dipankarchatterjee9416 Год назад

    Good job guys! Well documented

  • @AdamSzarmack
    @AdamSzarmack 2 года назад +67

    Give me Blackmagic over the rest all day long.

    • @Imskyhighy
      @Imskyhighy 2 года назад +4

      All it needs is auto focus.

    • @sitebstudios
      @sitebstudios Год назад +9

      Agreed. The fact that the camera is last just because it doesn’t have auto focus or IBIS is insane. Good luck on a real movie set. And you can absolutely use it for run and gun if you learn how to shoot properly.

    • @uptonfilms95
      @uptonfilms95 11 месяцев назад

      @@sitebstudiosthe thing is everyone needs certain specs. If you are on movie sets then you’re right you should get the BM. But if you need some for run and gun no rig the other 3 are the better option. There is a rumor that BM is joint the L mount!! I hope the camera is a box camera or a GH6 style camera, big and beefy.

    • @RugbyPass81
      @RugbyPass81 10 месяцев назад

      Not rugged enough for my line of work

    • @Une_Baguette
      @Une_Baguette 9 месяцев назад +1

      Bmpcc is a cinema camera. Auto focus just doesn't do justice for filmmaking. That's why there's follow focus and focus puller

  • @mattthedirector4670
    @mattthedirector4670 2 года назад +7

    Black magic is not in the same league as the dslr cameras.
    RUclipsrs that try to sensationalize specs try to compare apples to oranges but the bmpcc shits on everything for the price.

    • @normannseils3936
      @normannseils3936 2 года назад

      Yes the image and the ease of recoding raw in the camera is outstanding.
      And they didn’t mention the audio at all which is ODD for a video comparison. Having 2 XLR and a normal small Mikrofon input is so good for shooting Interview situations. Even the internal mic from the pocket is quite nice (In comparison).
      Another point they didn’t cover was video output. In don’t know about the other 3 but not having 4k video-out on the pocket is a small issue for me personally since I’m working with virtual production recently. I would love a 4Kvideo out for live compositing.

  • @Kuyaerwin
    @Kuyaerwin 2 года назад

    Great video y’all. I feel good about my a7siii. It’s a beast.

  • @RobertFalconer1967
    @RobertFalconer1967 2 года назад +29

    There's no Z9 in this comparison. So it can never be the ultimate shootout.

    • @markshirley01
      @markshirley01 2 года назад +1

      Dpreviews favourite video camera currently

    • @FilmMavericks
      @FilmMavericks 2 года назад +4

      Nikon for video? Nah

    • @markshirley01
      @markshirley01 2 года назад +1

      @@FilmMavericks why not? If its Jordan Drakes and Dpreviews best camera they've ever tested - it cant be bad

    • @RobertFalconer1967
      @RobertFalconer1967 2 года назад +2

      @@FilmMavericks Nikon for everything.

    • @logancartwright8280
      @logancartwright8280 2 года назад +2

      @@FilmMavericks maybe 3 years ago but Nikon have really come a long way with the z line.

  • @wadesweeney2200
    @wadesweeney2200 2 года назад +3

    The r5 has several modes in 4k that donot overheat, not just 4k24.
    It has 4k 24 and 30 fps and oversampled 4k crop mode 24 and 30 fps that does not overheat.
    Put a metabones on the canon and those two crop modes become just about full frame.
    Just thought I would point that out.

  • @davidkufoalor9852
    @davidkufoalor9852 2 года назад +2

    Great… thanks for the info

  • @RICH_Photography
    @RICH_Photography 2 года назад +9

    I appreciate the effort in the video but your GH6 stabilisation test wasnt correct.
    The GH5 would walk over the R5 and Sony and the GH6 is far superior. Using the 12-35 lens that GH6 would glide like it's on a gimbal.

  • @yefiker_hiwot_tube
    @yefiker_hiwot_tube 2 года назад +1

    THE BEST TUTORIAL CHANNEL EVER ❤❤

  • @JuanLopezmusica
    @JuanLopezmusica Год назад

    Wow all this time I was thinking the black magic 6k pro it was full frame 😆
    Thank you guys! Very informative this video

  • @TacticalCactusMedia
    @TacticalCactusMedia 2 года назад

    Nice video thanks as always for the info. FYI you can put the BMPCC6K on a Ronin by using a riser plate, which lifts and offsets the camera just enough to clear the side axis.

  • @IvanGRANID
    @IvanGRANID 2 года назад

    Great video! thank You!!!!!!!!!

  • @pochanSarith
    @pochanSarith 2 года назад

    Thank you for reviews for us. Sony S3 my dream camera, btw just join your course about a week.

  • @BrennanMartin
    @BrennanMartin 2 года назад +20

    I'm confused why if you got equivalent lenses with the gh6, you still decided to push in with all its shots? I mean... 12-35 panasonic is the same as 24-70 on full frame, so why were they cropped in? Made me scratch my head a little bit...

    • @lanceevans1689
      @lanceevans1689 2 года назад +8

      You and I had the very same head scratching.

    • @sardanapalos
      @sardanapalos 2 года назад +2

      no one knows what they mean .... i m pretty sure if they watch it now they ll understand their mistake....

  • @saviwaves5337
    @saviwaves5337 2 года назад +7

    I don't like Sony, but the A7SIII is probably the best all around camera,
    but for film making, it has to go to blackmagic
    for the beautiful footage you can get from it.

  • @njidekanwachukwu1263
    @njidekanwachukwu1263 2 года назад +1

    Thanks a lot for this insight and God bless ❤️🙏

  • @sanaatanviswa
    @sanaatanviswa 2 года назад

    That s great insights - into varied aspects functions n capabilities of these most sought after gadgets by professionals .. yet, people make their choices by brand names before quality output - may be for reasons of familiarity or just ease or impulse ❤

  • @mediaapexproduction5245
    @mediaapexproduction5245 Год назад +2

    I bought both R5 and A7Siii at launch and kept both lol I am too back and forth so I just keep both and I don't have that "should I switch" issue :) Also canons new update just fixed the bs overheat shutdown and now I am shooting a lot more on it. Its now the prefect camera both stills and video!

  • @geraldpano52
    @geraldpano52 Год назад

    OMG. I finished the video.. Great help for people tryin' to choose a camera to buy.

  • @tubeman1983
    @tubeman1983 2 года назад +6

    No Nikon Z9???? It can't be because of its price since the Canon R5 costs 3900 USD. Could you do a wider camera comparison up to 6000 USD? Cheers

    • @logancartwright8280
      @logancartwright8280 2 года назад

      Could of used the Z6 or Z7 as well. Good to see I’m not the only disappointed one

  • @AllgoodthingsTv
    @AllgoodthingsTv 2 года назад +15

    You guys did a great job on this video. Easy to comprehend information with nice visuals to go along with it. I've been shooting on the Canon R5 for the past year and a half and I will say that gimmick or no, the 8K image is exceptional (as is the 4K HQ). But I have a commercial shoot coming up and I do not feel comfortable using the R5.

    • @osoriony
      @osoriony 2 года назад +1

      Get the R5C. It's amazing!! I don't know why they didn't included

    • @fp3359
      @fp3359 Год назад

      @@osoriony
      Because it's too good.

  • @ventioner
    @ventioner 2 года назад

    realy great video; everything relevant said!

  • @jdgaf2110
    @jdgaf2110 2 года назад +2

    Great video, would have loved to see the Z9

  • @saintnickw
    @saintnickw 2 года назад

    Hey! Saw you mentioned the R5C in the comments, also what about the Canon C70! Beginner here so not sure if that fits into the same category as these, definitely would love to see a shootout with it! Loved the vid!

  • @top_tech.500k
    @top_tech.500k 2 года назад +2

    Why Nikon cameras are not there??????

  • @CaminoDidjeridu
    @CaminoDidjeridu 2 года назад

    Great video 😀 Did you use a LUT for the Wedding shots, at 15.21"?

  • @Visualsthatgohard
    @Visualsthatgohard 2 года назад +2

    Thank you guys so much for this open-minded review about all these bodies I was honestly saving for R5 being a beginner at night event Cinematographer and photographer. I knew about the issues like overheating but I was sold by that 8k thing and like Justice said ''if you shoot an entire 8k project this isn't the camera you would go for'' and that's absolutely right. Being most at work during night hours and under no light or less light environment, I think Sony won my heart, and thanks a lot to you guys TFM really helped me step up my game as a videographer and that's just based on the YT videos can't wait to afford the course and see how good ill become.

    • @fantasticorpentertainment8205
      @fantasticorpentertainment8205 Год назад

      Get an R6 instead if you like canon - its better in low light and almost half the price with the same tech

  • @123456789shaikh
    @123456789shaikh Год назад

    Awesome comparison

  • @johnteki
    @johnteki 2 года назад +12

    I would ask ONLY one question at the end... What camera did you use to record yourself and make this video?

    • @matthuffman178
      @matthuffman178 2 года назад +1

      Haha all of them!

    • @johnteki
      @johnteki 2 года назад

      @@matthuffman178 I mean the main talk head video

    • @matthuffman178
      @matthuffman178 2 года назад +1

      @@johnteki I believe it was the GH5S !

    • @dicekolev5360
      @dicekolev5360 2 года назад

      Probably a Nikon z6ii or z9, hehehehhe

  • @Sheriffovic
    @Sheriffovic 2 года назад

    I was going to buy my camera in february but I have no idea what to buy and I was looking 3 of the cameras you guys used. This video is a miracle for me, Thank you so much!!

  • @ChrisBucklin
    @ChrisBucklin 2 года назад

    I picked up a blackmagic 6k pro last year. Whil it does fit on an RS2, I had trouble with the combo. Returned the RS2, and got a Crane3s, which handles it just fine.

  • @Kreamcroque
    @Kreamcroque 2 года назад +10

    Hmmm weird, I've seen other video's about the GH6 & Sony IS and everyone says the GH6 is way best. Also their footage looked way more stable during movements. Maybe you missed something?

    • @professionalpotato4764
      @professionalpotato4764 2 года назад +3

      They used the tripod mode and walked with it. I wonder why it is shakey lol. In Richard Wong's demo, the GH6 + dual IS is crazy smooth you could walk easily up to 35mm equivalent.

  • @ltanella3404
    @ltanella3404 Год назад

    I've used your course and I love your videos so 5 stars!

  • @davegarciajr191
    @davegarciajr191 2 года назад +5

    why fujifilm xt4 not included? 😉

  • @DARKLYLIT
    @DARKLYLIT 2 года назад +1

    As others have already mentioned, you CAN put the BlackMagic 6K Pro on a Ronin S or RS 2. There have been videos about this for well over a year now.

  • @DariuszTech
    @DariuszTech 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting comparison 😁

  • @DanniPortillo
    @DanniPortillo 2 года назад +5

    What a phenomenal review. I'll go with the Panasonic Lumix GH6 it is credible how much you get for that price.

  • @MsMoeb
    @MsMoeb Год назад +3

    The BMPCC6K DOES fit on a gimbal (Ronin RS2 & Ronin RS3 pro). Also, it captures ibis internally allowing for very accurate post stabilisation.

  • @DmitriFilms
    @DmitriFilms 2 года назад +1

    Recently shot a short with the BMPCC 6K Pro on the DJI RS2. Yes it doesn't fit 100% on the Arca base plate, but luckily the latch closes just enough to keep it in place and the locking pin prevents it from coming off. Rigged it out with a Tilta Nano follow focus system, and the Raveneye transmitter, and we managed to pull off some incredible footage in a MMA ring. Total cost of the rig was about $5k - $6k AUD. We're so lucky as filmmakers to have the tools we have today. The fact that we can nit pick codecs and autofocus is a luxury. Happy filming everyone!

  • @RetroBusker
    @RetroBusker Год назад

    Can the Sony a75 film 4:3 4k for long periods of time...
    I currently have the GH5, might upgrade to the sony next year...
    gh5 good although would prefair 4:3 on 4k 30/25fp3 for ticktok 9:16 & youtube 16:9,
    Awesome video :)

  • @asafblasbergvideographer
    @asafblasbergvideographer 2 года назад +1

    What camera did you use to film this video?

  • @raredreamfootage
    @raredreamfootage 2 года назад

    26:14 - Which firmware did you use for the GH6? I believe in firmware 1.1+ they addressed the IBIS warping.

  • @bedenegative6450
    @bedenegative6450 2 года назад +1

    Hey guys what settings did you use for the gh6 stablizer test?

  • @umdenkbar
    @umdenkbar Год назад

    i changed from sony to blackmagic and shot a whole tv-film with it on a shoulder rig (and stabilized it a little bit in post) and it worked quite well - but i had to film everything with 1/200 shutter speed

  • @MichaelBouhnikProductions
    @MichaelBouhnikProductions 2 года назад +4

    I think it would have been better to compare with the r6, price wise and low light etc...

  • @captainradio5894
    @captainradio5894 2 года назад +7

    The black magic 4k fits great on a gimbal and costs a lot less.

  • @oneeyedphotographer
    @oneeyedphotographer 2 года назад +5

    10:54 Every sensor/lens is exactly what it is, you are just measuring it wrongly. The correct comparison is by angle of view.

  • @kiddgroovy
    @kiddgroovy Год назад

    2 questions: I posted this question on another one of your videos:
    Would you recommend the blackmagic for a 4 camera video podcast?
    If not what setup would you recommend?

  • @dogeatdog5
    @dogeatdog5 Год назад

    I've seen a ton of videos on gimbal setups for the Blackmagic 6k so I'm confused when you say it won't work on one?

  • @atulupadhyay6430
    @atulupadhyay6430 2 года назад +3

    Why you didn't add nikon Z9 ??

  • @TVogel-uz9ky
    @TVogel-uz9ky 2 года назад +2

    The BMPCC 6k fits perfectly on the Crane 3 s Gimbal…. No problems there…

  • @SeanOReillySongs
    @SeanOReillySongs 2 года назад +2

    you guys did the GH6 so dirty here. shame.

  • @christiansoto9442
    @christiansoto9442 2 года назад

    Would like to see more of footage from the cameras

  • @rocklee619
    @rocklee619 Год назад +1

    Holy cow, what an amazing review video. Well done guys!
    Personally I'm going with the GH6, just because of the color and video look... but the low light quality on Sony is UNTOUCHABLE lol ❤

  • @HeathcliffBlair
    @HeathcliffBlair 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for the video, chaps. I think you should have featured the Canon R5C instead of the R5. It solves the problems within the R5 apparently. The R5 is basically history now. Cheers.

  • @hayderalothman7649
    @hayderalothman7649 2 года назад

    Hi, which camera is the best for green screen?

  • @lydie.manzano
    @lydie.manzano Год назад

    Hi ! thanks for this video. there are English subtitles in your online course please ?

  • @benjaminaguilera8097
    @benjaminaguilera8097 2 года назад

    Great vid. Only complain would be to test low light at 12,800 ISO, as that's where Sony's second base iso kicks in and the image cleans up incredibly. Would've def been a more realistic approach as it's usually where people shoot when they need that much sensitivity.

  • @ryanfwood
    @ryanfwood Год назад

    Middle guy nods along reading the promoter when the others are presenting. Looks telepathic.